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About That “Maryland Man….”
« Reply #2400 on: April 17, 2025, 08:04:34 AM »
Don’t know how it is in the rest of the country, but in the DC area the MSM and usual suspects have gone all in on this gent, a gent in the US illegally. The “progressive” hysterics don’t bother reporting on the federal judge hip deep in this effort has a conflict of interest in the form of a daughter employed by a “progressive” org to agitate re various causes, including illegal immigration, or said judge’s apparent Never Trump ethos. The MSM hasn’t bothered reporting much about the MS-13 affiliation, though there was a piece on local news this morning dismissing a police department record showing that the “MD man” in question had a protective order filed by his wife, one where she cited his gang affiliation as one of her concerns, though she now disavows that protective order, with the MSM around here focusing instead on casting the release of the protective order info as some sort of nefarious Trump stunt.

Given info like that below, it’s surprising they are embracing this cause with such ardor:

Biden’s FBI Ordered TN Highway Patrol to Release ‘Maryland Man’ Recently Deported to El Salvador After He Was Detained in 2022 Traffic Stop on Suspicion of Human Trafficking

April 16, 2025 Tom Pappert

Kilmar Abrego Garcia

The Tennessee Star learned on Wednesday that Kilmar Abrego Garcia, an alleged member of the Central American gang Mara Salvatrucha (MS-13) who was deported to El Salvador under President Donald Trump amid legal action claiming the removal was by mistake, was suspected of being engaged in human trafficking by a Tennessee Highway Patrol (THP) officer who detained him in December 2022, leading the THP to contact the FBI for guidance. Within two hours, the FBI ultimately requested the THP release Garcia and the passengers in his vehicle. THP complied with the request.

The Star learned from sources familiar with the incident that Abrego Garcia was stopped for an unknown reason on December 6, 2022, and that the THP officer responsible for the stop immediately discovered Abrego Garcia was transporting seven passengers, with eight individuals inside the vehicle.

During a nearly two-hour traffic stop, the THP officer determined that Abrego Garcia (pictured above) was operating the vehicle without a valid driver’s license and began searching for information about him.

One source told The Star that THP ultimately discovered Abrego Garcia was on a terrorist watch list, but could not locate Abrego Garcia on a deportation list. Another source told The Star that THP did not discover Abrego Garcia on a terrorist watch list but that another one of the seven passengers in the vehicle may have been on a terrorist watch list.

THP subsequently called the FBI, which was then led by former Director Christopher Wray under the Biden administration. The FBI instructed the THP officers at the scene to capture photographs of all eight people in the vehicle and document its contents.

Once the photographs were captured, this source told The Star that the FBI requested THP release all eight individuals and that the THP officers complied with this request.

The Star learned that the circumstances of the stop made the THP officer responsible for the stop concerned that Abrego Garcia was engaged in human trafficking, but that Abrego Garcia and his passengers were nonetheless released at the request of the FBI.

Information about this incident, including the identity of the THP officer, the officer’s badge number, and the Computerized Dispatch Report code assigned to the incident, are all known to The Star, which is currently withholding this information.

Sources familiar with the Computerized Dispatch Report of the incident told The Star that the officer who filed the report confirmed that the seven individuals in the van were being transported from Texas to Maryland by Garcia.

Notably, it is a misdemeanor offense in the state of Tennessee to operate a motor vehicle without a valid driver’s license. Anyone convicted of this Class B misdemeanor faces up to six months in jail.

The officer who detained Garcia temporarily is well-respected within the Tennessee Highway Patrol, has served on a special interdiction team, and is based in a district located between Nashville and Knoxville, which includes Putnam County.

In response to Wednesday press inquiries from The Star, THP and the Tennessee Department of Safety and Homeland Security both confirmed receiving the communication, and that communications staff would send responses which did not arrive prior to press time.

A comment request by The Star to the FBI, seeking to confirm its instructions to THP, was not immediately answered.

The Star also contacted the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation (TBI), as the chief authority over human trafficking investigations in the state, to determine whether Abrego Garcia was released due to a TBI investigation, but did not receive an immediate response.

An inquiry to the Department of Homeland Security, which oversees federal human trafficking investigations, likewise went unanswered prior to press time.

Abrego Garcia is a Salvadoran citizen who illegally immigrated to the United States in 2012. Despite two judges determining he is likely to be a member of MS-13, Abrego Garcia and his family have denied this claim. In 2019, he was granted a “withholding of removal” order, which determined Abrego Garcia could not be deported to El Salvador over concerns related to his safety in his homeland, but that he could be removed to a third country.

He was deported to El Salvador under the Trump administration in March. Both U.S. District Court Judge Paula Xinis and the U.S. Supreme Court have ruled that the government must take steps to allow Abrego Garcia to return to the country. However, the high court recently halted an order by Xinis on the grounds that she sought to compel the Trump administration to engage in diplomacy with President Nayib Bukele of El Salvador.

Bukele, during a recent Oval Office meeting with President Donald Trump, stated that he had neither the authority nor the motivation to release Abrego Garcia, who is deemed a terrorist after the Trump administration added MS-13 to the federal government’s list of Foreign Terrorist Organizations.

“I don’t have the power to return him to the United States. How could I smuggle a terrorist into the United States? Of course, I’m not going to do it. The question is preposterous,” said Bukele in response to a question about Abrego Garcia.

Asked whether he would consider releasing Abrego Garcia within the borders of El Salvador, the head of state replied, “We’re not very fond of releasing terrorists into our country.”

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Tom Pappert is the lead reporter for The Tennessee Star, and also reports for The Pennsylvania Daily Star and The Arizona Sun Times. Follow Tom on X/Twitter. Email tips to pappert.tom@proton.me.

https://tennesseestar.com/justice/bidens-fbi-ordered-tn-highway-patrol-to-release-maryland-man-recently-deported-to-el-salvador-after-he-was-detained-in-2022-traffic-stop-on-suspicion-of-human-trafficking/tpappert/2025/04/16/

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Re: Immigration; weaponized immigration; deportation
« Reply #2401 on: April 17, 2025, 08:24:58 AM »
As I mentioned elsewhere today Team Trump (AG Bondi, Stephen Miller) are asserting that the President Trump's declaration of MS 13 as a terrorist org, has the legal effect of vitiating the prior order against his deportation to ES.

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Re: Immigration; weaponized immigration; deportation
« Reply #2402 on: April 17, 2025, 08:36:17 AM »
As I mentioned elsewhere today Team Trump (AG Bondi, Stephen Miller) are asserting that the President Trump's declaration of MS 13 as a terrorist org, has the legal effect of vitiating the prior order against his deportation to ES.

Boaberg (sp?) will no doubt attempt to do some chest thrumming nonetheless.

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More on MD Man
« Reply #2403 on: April 17, 2025, 10:58:17 AM »
Good to see that the "party of women" is doing such a lovely job of representing their interests:


Andy Ngo
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April 16, 2025
Kilmar Abrego Garcia twice accused of domestic violence
Updated

Vanessa Vasquez, the Maryland wife of deported suspected gang terrorist Kilmar Abrego Garcia, either lied to the court when she petitioned for a domestic violence protective order against him, or she is lying now on the GoFundMe claiming he is an excellent father and spouse.

Over $194,000 has poured in as Garcia has become a hero to Democrats.

In 2020 and 2021, Vasquez requested and received emergency temporary protective orders against Garcia in Prince's County, Md. Her allegations that he is dangerous and violent are consistent with similar findings from prior U.S. immigration court rulings.

In the 2021 temporary protective order, the court wrote that it had reasonable grounds to believe that Garcia grabbed, punched, scratched and ripped off his partner's clothing in attacks on May 1 and May 4, 2021. Vasquez was allegedly injured with br uises.
Garcia was ordered to vacate from the family home, cease contact with Vasquez and stay away from both her and her mother's property. Additionally, custody of their sole child was transfered solely to Vasquez.

The couple has one child together, though Vasquez has misrepresented Garcia as the father of all three of her children.

A hearing for a final protective order was scheduled for June 17, 2021 but Vasquez did not appear and the case was later closed.

Garcia was deported to his native El Salvador on March 15 and is in prison there currently. Democrats and liberal media have demanded that the former illegal alien and accused MS-13 member be returned to the U.S.

The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the Trump administration needed to "facilitate" the Salvadoran national's release.

https://ngo.locals.com/post/6851845/kilmar-abrego-garcia-twice-accused-of-domestic-violence

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I Know, Let’s All Die on this Illegal Immigrant Hill!
« Reply #2404 on: April 17, 2025, 02:07:08 PM »
3rd post. I am stunned that Dems are going all in on MD Man/criminal illegals. It seems an absurd hill to die on, and perhaps speaks to their desperation to find something, anything, to chuck under the wheels of the Trump train. I don’t see their effort succeeding, and suspect it’s rife with potential unintended consequences, particularly given the abject willingness to ignore SCOTUS as discussed by Julie Kelly here:

https://x.com/julie_kelly2/status/1912883782606008426

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SCOTUS to Hear Birthright Citizenship Case
« Reply #2405 on: April 17, 2025, 05:50:22 PM »
4th post I believe. Probably a bad idea to make book on this one, though I suspect “progressive” tears will ensue:

Supreme Court to Hear Arguments on Trump Plan to End Birthright Citizenship

The Trump administration had asked the justices to lift a nationwide pause on the policy as lower court challenges continue.

The Supreme Court affirmed the right to birthright citizenship in a landmark case in 1898.Credit...Haiyun Jiang for The New York Times

By Abbie VanSickle
Reporting from Washington
April 17, 2025
Updated 3:44 p.m. ET

The Supreme Court announced on Thursday that it would hear arguments in a few weeks over President Trump’s executive order ending birthright citizenship.

The brief order by the justices was unsigned and gave no reasoning, as is typical in such emergency cases. But the unusual move is a sign that the justices consider the matter significant enough that they would immediately hold oral argument on the government’s request to lift a nationwide pause on the policy.

The justices announced they would defer any consideration of the temporary block on the policy until they heard oral arguments, which they set for May 15.

That means that the executive order, which would end birthright citizenship for the children of undocumented immigrants and foreign residents, will remain paused in every state while the court considers the case.

The order was the latest response to a series of emergency applications brought by the Trump administration to challenge lower court blocks on a number of policies, including efforts to freeze more than a billion dollars in foreign aid and the deportation of Venezuelans to a prison in El Salvador without due process.

In three emergency applications, the Trump administration asked the Supreme Court to find that lower courts had erred in imposing bans on the birthright citizenship policy that extended beyond the parties involved in the litigation. It did not ask the court to weigh in on the constitutionality of that executive order, which was challenged soon after it was signed.

The court agreed to hear arguments on those applications, which focus on whether lower court judges went too far in imposing a nationwide pause on the policy.

On President Trump’s first day in office, he issued the executive order ending birthright citizenship, the guarantee that a person born in the United States is automatically a citizen, for certain children.

Birthright citizenship has long been considered a central tenet of the United States. The 14th Amendment, ratified after the Civil War, declares that “all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.”

In 1898, the Supreme Court affirmed that right in a landmark case, United States v. Wong Kim Ark, guaranteeing automatic citizenship for nearly all children born in the country. Since then, courts have upheld that expansive interpretation.

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Some allies of Mr. Trump have argued that the 14th Amendment should never have been interpreted to give citizenship to everyone born in the country. Among them: John Eastman, a constitutional law scholar and former Supreme Court law clerk who was one of the architects of the scheme to create fake slates of pro-Trump electors in states that Joseph R. Biden Jr. won in the 2020 election.

A number of legal challenges followed Mr. Trump’s executive order, and federal courts in Massachusetts, Maryland and Washington State issued temporary injunctions that put the order on hold for the entire country while courts considered the challenges.

Those temporary blocks, called nationwide injunctions, have been hotly debated for years, and the Trump administration focused its request to the Supreme Court as a challenge to such orders.

In a brief to the justices, Solicitor General D. John Sauer argued that nationwide injunctions were a relatively recent phenomenon that had a “dramatic upsurge” during the first Trump administration “followed by an explosion in the last three months.” Mr. Sauer argued that those blocks on policies exceeded lower courts’ authority and “gravely encroach on the president’s executive power” under the Constitution.
“This court’s intervention is urgently needed to restore the constitutional balance of separated powers,” Mr. Sauer wrote.
Lawyers for those challenging the executive order urged the justices to reject the government’s argument.

In a brief filed on behalf of Washington State, Arizona and Oregon, lawyers called the focus on nationwide injunctions a “myopic request” that “fails this court’s rules for granting a stay.”

“Being directed to follow the law as it has been universally understood for over 125 years is not an emergency warranting the extraordinary remedy of a stay,” the brief from the group of states said.

Abbie VanSickle covers the United States Supreme Court for The Times. She is a lawyer and has an extensive background in investigative reporting.

https://archive.ph/xh8eA

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Weaponized immigration; deportation, Sen. Chris Van Hollen
« Reply #2406 on: April 18, 2025, 06:41:19 AM »
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2025/04/18/chris-van-hollens-latest-el-salvador-photo-inadvertently-captured-the-state-of-the-dems-n2655737

'I hope to someday find someone who looks at me with the love that Democrats feel toward violent gang member, wife beater, human trafficker Abrego Garcia.' And I didn't do any of those things.
« Last Edit: April 18, 2025, 06:43:54 AM by DougMacG »

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« Reply #2407 on: April 18, 2025, 06:48:25 AM »
I am trying to figure out the image

there are two

this one only has water and coffee cups:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/chris-van-hollen-meets-kilmar-abrego-garcia-el-salvador-rcna201830

I assume the one with what does look like alcohol beverages must have been after the drinks were delivered to the table  :

https://x.com/nayibbukele/status/1913028548001923259/photo/3

We do see Van Hollen's seems full while Garcia's fluid level is lower suggesting he had some.   ordered to keep the restaurant happy?  or .....?  to party while travelling on our dime.
« Last Edit: April 18, 2025, 06:52:08 AM by ccp »

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« Reply #2408 on: April 18, 2025, 07:10:48 AM »
I also didn't understand a specific point to the pictures. Just that this is their new buddy, their new idol, their new George Floyd. As the comments suggest, he doesn't look persecuted or mistreated as he gets served in a nice restaurant. The check was paid by whom?

I searched the world wide web and can't find a picture of Chris Van Hollen eaching across the aisle breaking bread with President Trump, though I do see his friend Nancy Pelosi tearing up a state of the union speech.

Democrats hate our country is an opponent narrative they keep falling into. The ones I know do not hate our country but these are their leaders.

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« Reply #2409 on: April 18, 2025, 07:21:29 AM »
From article in previous post from Doug above:

"Biden embarked on a secret mission to Harvard University on Wednesday evening for a private meeting with 50 students.

It was an invite-only event, but pro-Palestinian protesters showed up and shouted, “Biden, Biden, you can’t hide. You’re committing genocide!”

Not surprising we hear very little on Cody Balmer who tried to kill Shapiro and his family by burning his house down.  He was a pro Palestinian advocate. Surely this played into his wanting to kill the Jewish governor who is pro Israel.

I think it was mentioned by CNN for a only a minute ,   but without  faux outrage played up by the MSM like they do with their endless George Floyd plays like Garcia. 

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« Reply #2410 on: April 18, 2025, 08:19:00 AM »
"pro-Palestinian protesters showed up and shouted, “Biden, Biden, you can’t hide. You’re committing genocide!” "

   - A side note out of this. Netanyahu believed that Biden was tying his hands, unsupportive of Israel. Pro Palestinians think Biden committed genocide. Biden is no longer relevant but the divide in the Democratic party is. The vocal, energetic part of the Democratic Party, including Harvard University for example, is pro palestinian, not pro-israel. They will not accept Shapiro for example, and his wing is believed to be the only electrical wing of the party.

That's a conundrum.




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Abrego's tattoos
« Reply #2412 on: April 18, 2025, 11:26:21 AM »


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Trump held up image of Garcia's tatoo
« Reply #2414 on: April 19, 2025, 11:26:06 AM »
And added MS 13 on the image though he did not clarify that was added

https://www.mediaite.com/trump/trump-touts-seemingly-doctored-photo-of-abrego-garcias-hand-in-attempt-to-prove-maryland-man-is-gang-member/

just adding to the endless confusion giving libs opportunities

I do not know what to think  or conclude anymore

Endless back and forth and who to believe.

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« Reply #2415 on: April 19, 2025, 11:45:59 AM »
Not the first time he has been careless with forwarding dubious memes.   Remember the Haitians eating cats and dogs in Ohio thing?