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Re: WSJ: Green Leap Forward-- the prequel
« Reply #750 on: December 11, 2020, 09:22:13 PM »
"Tonopah operated the Crescent Dunes solar plant in Nevada that received $737 million in guaranteed loans from the Obama Administration."


Can we round up the Obama administration and have them pay for their mess? 

Note that this Obama Biden boondoggle has gone badly for 10 years but makes the news just after votes are cast.

Can we please learn to say no to anti-constitutional public-private-partnerships, sweetheart deals and all forms of crony governmentism?
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Re: Energy Politics, Electricity costs
« Reply #751 on: January 13, 2021, 08:41:52 AM »
Asked in the bitcoin discussion, what is the cost of electricity anyway?  Well, there is the cost of the electricity, and then there is the quadrupling of that, that comes from taxes, regulations and mandates, state and federal.  The cost will most certainly be lower in a more free country.

https://neo.ne.gov/programs/stats/inf/204.htm#:~:text=States%20are%20ranked%20so%20that,electricity%20rate%20(7.71%20cents).

Rank   State   Average Electricity Rate
for All Sectors
(Cents per Kilowatthour)
1   Louisiana   7.71
2   Arkansas   7.78
3   Washington   8.00
4   Oklahoma   8.09
4   Wyoming   8.09
5   Idaho   8.17
6   Utah   8.21
7   Texas   8.48
8   Kentucky   8.52
9   Nevada   8.67
10   West Virginia   8.72
11   Montana   8.84
12   Oregon   8.85
13   North Dakota   8.91
14   Iowa   8.92
15   Nebraska   9.02
16   Mississippi   9.24
17   North Carolina   9.25
18   New Mexico   9.35
19   Virginia   9.48
20   Tennessee   9.58
21   Illinois   9.60
22   Georgia   9.62
23   Alabama   9.63
24   South Carolina   9.66
25   Indiana   9.75
26   Missouri   9.93
27   Ohio   9.94
28   South Dakota   9.97
29   Colorado   10.02
30   Pennsylvania   10.10
31   Florida   10.31
32   Minnesota   10.37
National Average   10.53
33   Delaware   10.55
34   Wisconsin   10.58
35   Kansas   10.72
36   Arizona   10.85
37   Michigan   11.40
38   Maryland   11.57
39   District of Columbia   12.03
40   New Jersey   13.23
41   Maine   13.44
42   New York   14.83
43   Vermont   15.13
44   California   16.58
45   New Hampshire   17.01
46   Rhode Island   18.10
47   Connecticut   18.41
48   Massachusetts   18.50
49   Alaska   19.36
50   Hawaii   29.18
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More perspective here:

https://www.americanexperiment.org/2019/11/three-things-xcel-energy-doesnt-want-you-to-know-about-their-massive-increase-in-electricity-prices/

"More rate increases are coming, and they could increase electricity bills by $580 per year."

https://www.americanexperiment.org/2019/11/our-perspective-minnesotas-days-of-cheaper-electricity-seem-numbered/

Center for the American Experiment, John Hinderaker, President. Research emphasizes free enterprise, limited government, personal responsibility and government accountability.
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Re: Energy Politics & Science
« Reply #752 on: January 21, 2021, 03:03:41 AM »
Biden says he wants to promote good-paying union jobs. And so, his first act in office is killing 20,000 good-paying union jobs connected to the Keystone pipeline. "

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2021/01/cup-of-joe.php

https://www.seattletimes.com/business/work-on-keystone-xl-pipeline-suspended-ahead-of-biden-action/
-------Gas prices already up 20% in anricipation of Biden policies.


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Re: Energy Politics & Science
« Reply #754 on: January 28, 2021, 08:08:31 PM »
Where have we heard this?

As Holman Jenkins points out in the Wall Street Journal today that if the Harris-Biden Administration was actually serious about climate change, they’d push nuclear power. Instead:
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A good first step might be to power the grid before making every vehicle and furnace electric.

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Re: Energy Politics & Science
« Reply #755 on: January 28, 2021, 08:22:06 PM »
Just as the left believes that if you identify as a woman, that makes you a woman, if you identify as a country with a functional energy infrastructure, you are one!


Where have we heard this?

As Holman Jenkins points out in the Wall Street Journal today that if the Harris-Biden Administration was actually serious about climate change, they’d push nuclear power. Instead:
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A good first step might be to power the grid before making every vehicle and furnace electric.


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Energy Politics & Science, Pipelines are 451 times safer. Whatever
« Reply #757 on: February 02, 2021, 06:31:07 PM »
U.S. Department of Transportation, pipelines are 451 times safer than rail transportation on a per-distance basis

https://journaltimes.com/opinion/editorial/journal-times-editorial-pipelines-are-safest-for-the-environment/article_f44cf4b3-3edb-53ec-b804-49b93f6dbbd6.html

Between 2011 and 2013, 99.999% of crude oil and petroleum products shipped via pipeline arrived safely at their destination
https://www.canadaaction.ca/shipping_oil_pipelines_vs_trains_which_is_safer

The horrible truth, and one might pray for the souls lost in July 2013 in Quebec, is train transport is far more dangerous. The Quebec train disaster killed at least 38 people, and counting. No pipeline failure has ever come close to this level of human death and suffering.

Even more dangerous is truck transport.
https://www.supplychain247.com/article/the_best_way_to_transport_petroleum_trucks_trains_or_pipelines



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Biden energy ban an economic hammer to Colorado, New Mexico, Wyoming
« Reply #758 on: February 04, 2021, 07:45:53 AM »
https://pagetwo.completecolorado.com/2021/02/01/griffin-biden-energy-ban-an-economic-hammer-to-colorado/

... Colorado will lose a projected $35.5 billion in Gross Domestic Product over the next 20 years. The immediate impact is just as drastic.  Between 2021-2024, Biden’s leasing ban will eliminate 5,172 jobs annually, wipe out $2.8 billion in oil and natural gas investments, $1.3 billion in production, $546 million in much-needed tax revenue and a whopping $1.6 billion in high-paying wages.

New Mexico extracts nearly half of its oil and 67% of its natural gas from leases on federal lands. Before the pandemic, tax revenue generated from oil and production overall comprised 20% of the state’s budget. With 62,000 jobs at stake, a federal leasing ban will be catastrophic for one of the country’s most poverty-stricken states.

Wyoming’s oil and gas economy is dependent upon federal oil and gas leases. A federal leasing prohibition will severely impact 51% of the state’s oil production and a whopping 92% of its natural gas production
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   - 92% of their natural gas production banned in one executive order?  What the hell are we supposed to heat our homes with, wind turbines??


Biden's Keystone XL pipeline cancellation is gut punch to small businesses
Small Nebraska communities already seeing 'less money coming in,' with crews out of work

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-keystone-xl-pipeline-cancellation-gut-punch-small-businesses


   - We've faced energy embargos before, from OPEC, destroying the economy of the 1970s and the Presidency of Jimmy Carter, known for the least popular ever, gas rationing at the pump.  But this time it is from the enemy within.
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Re: Energy Politics & Science
« Reply #759 on: February 04, 2021, 08:30:02 AM »
just wait till energy costs start increasing

wait till spring and when corona dies down

the left will ignore


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Re: Energy Politics & Science
« Reply #760 on: February 05, 2021, 12:22:08 PM »
https://twitter.com/i/status/1354526622460891137

Emission free car.  Watch until the end.  1 minute video.

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Re: Energy Politics & Science
« Reply #761 on: February 05, 2021, 02:31:41 PM »
".Emission free car.  Watch until the end.  1 minute video."

great video Doug!

where does the electric power come from ?

I dunno?

oh, it is 95 % coal! -> silence and looking like a horses ass
  our climate Czar

terrific
all this ,
as we drive out our coal production
and turn the coal industry into an unemployment industry

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Re: Energy Politics & Science
« Reply #762 on: February 05, 2021, 02:49:23 PM »
If you haven't seen Idiocracy, you need to.

It's supposed to happen in the future. It's happening now.


".Emission free car.  Watch until the end.  1 minute video."

great video Doug!

where does the electric power come from ?

I dunno?

oh, it is 95 % coal! -> silence and looking like a horses ass
  our climate Czar

terrific
all this ,
as we drive out our coal production
and turn the coal industry into an unemployment industry

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Re: Energy Politics & Science
« Reply #763 on: February 07, 2021, 07:47:04 PM »
Second (stupidest) only to the coal powered EV is the new diesel powered one.  Just buy a diesel car you idiots.



https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2021/02/the-week-in-pictures-circleback-edition.php

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Re: Energy Politics & Science, High tech lithium batteries
« Reply #764 on: February 07, 2021, 07:48:57 PM »

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Re: Energy Politics & Science,. wind energy
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Biden’s EPA: Most Solar Panel, Electric Vehicle Parts Come from China
« Reply #767 on: February 08, 2021, 07:26:16 AM »
Shut down US energy sources and become more dependent on China is the new, old strategy.

Biden’s EPA Nominee Admits Most Solar Panel, Electric Vehicle Parts Come from China
https://nationalfile.com/bidens-epa-nominee-admits-most-solar-panel-electric-vehicle-parts-come-from-china/

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“What we find is most of the parts we want to install come from China”
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President Biden’s pick to lead the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) admitted during his confirmation hearing that the United States is at a distinct disadvantage in the clean energy market because most of the parts necessary for solar energy and green vehicles are made in China.
During his confirmation hearing last Wednesday, Michael Regan, Mr. Biden’s nominee to head the EPA, was questioned by Sen. Mike Braun (R-IN), about China’s complete disregard for the goals of green activists on the issue of climate change.

Regan referred to his time at the head of the State of North Carolina’s Department of Environmental Quality, admitting that while North Carolina is a leader in “solar installation,” most of the parts required for any installation are made in China.

“... I believe that’s the same for solar, as it is for cars.”

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Energy Politics & Science, EV's not ready for prime time
« Reply #768 on: February 09, 2021, 03:25:26 PM »
Interesting thing happened the last 2 days.  I tried to blow a dusting of snow off vehicles and walks with a (fully charged) 40 volt lithium battery powered blower at below zero temps and it failed. Looking up the operating temperature range for lithium batteries I see the range  goes down to 50 degrees F.  How doesvthat work for electric vehicles in extreme (or ordinary winter) weather? Will your new little ambulance or fire truck fail when you need it?  Yes.  Of course.  It's physics.

My friends with Teslas have no problem.  Call it triple decker wealth.  They own a (taxpsyer assisted) tesla and they have heated garages (with charging) at home and at work, and don't leave the car outside for extended periods.  We should all be so lucky.  I assume the car has the ability to heat its own battery (what does that do to range?), but can not insulate it.  That would trap battery heat in, an even more dangerous situation.

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Re: Energy Politics & Science, EV's not ready for prime time
« Reply #769 on: February 09, 2021, 04:21:47 PM »
I wouldn't own a Tesla or similar vehicles unless given one for free, maybe not even then.

They are fragile and unreliable and will be mostly worthless in the years ahead.


Interesting thing happened the last 2 days.  I tried to blow a dusting of snow off vehicles and walks with a (fully charged) 40 volt lithium battery powered blower at below zero temps and it failed. Looking up the operating temperature range for lithium batteries I see the range  goes down to 50 degrees F.  How doesvthat work for electric vehicles in extreme (or ordinary winter) weather? Will your new little ambulance or fire truck fail when you need it?  Yes.  Of course.  It's physics.

My friends with Teslas have no problem.  Call it triple decker wealth.  They own a (taxpsyer assisted) tesla and they have heated garages (with charging) at home and at work, and don't leave the car outside for extended periods.  We should all be so lucky.  I assume the car has the ability to heat its own battery (what does that do to range?), but can not insulate it.  That would trap battery heat in, an even more dangerous situation.

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Wind and Solar Don't Work
« Reply #770 on: February 11, 2021, 09:35:29 AM »
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2021/02/wind-and-solar-energy-dont-work.php

WIND AND SOLAR ENERGY DON’T WORK
Leftists fantasize that before long, we can dispense with all reliable energy sources–coal, natural gas, nuclear, even hydro–and run our society entirely on wind and solar, two forms of energy that have been obsolete for 150 years.

How can this be, since wind turbines only produce electricity when the wind is blowing sufficiently, which is around 40% of the time, and solar only works when the sun is shining and the panels are not covered in ice and snow–in a northern climate, something like 18% of the time? Obviously the Greenies have a problem. Today, their problem is solved by building natural gas plants that carry the load when wind and solar are AWOL–which is to say, a large majority of the time. Of course, the natural gas plants are dispatchable, which means they can produce energy reliably, at will, 24/7. Which raises the obvious question: if we have to build fully-capable natural gas plants to make wind and solar sort-of work, some of the time, what the heck to we need the wind and solar for?

The truthful answer to that question has nothing to do with the laws of physics, and everything to do with the laws of money. But the Left has another answer: batteries! It looks forward to the day when batteries will store the output of wind turbines and solar panels and thereby turn unreliable, intermittent energy into electricity that you can count on to turn on your lights when you flip the switch.

At American Experiment.org, my colleague Isaac Orr demolishes the Green New Deal fantasy. One basic problem is that wind turbines don’t work when the weather gets cold, which can be fatal in the North, especially when we are experiencing a brutal cold snap:

Temperatures are below zero in many parts of the state, but wind energy is missing in action.

According to data from the regional grid operator, the wind is providing just 1 percent of the current electricity on the grid, and solar is providing just 0.31 percent. Coal currently accounts for 55 percent of generation, natural gas accounts for 28 percent, and nuclear accounts for 14 percent. {Doug: That is after all the wasted money on subsidies.]

Not only is wind not producing much electricity, but it is also producing only a small fraction of its potential output. There are 22,000 megawatts (MW) of wind capacity installed on the regional grid, but these wind turbines are only producing 1,055 MW of electricity. In other words, wind turbines are only producing 4.8 percent of their potential output. Temperatures are below zero in many parts of the state, but wind energy is missing in action.

As Isaac has explained elsewhere, the truth is even worse than that. When it gets cold, not only are wind turbines shut down so they produce no electricity, they also need to be kept warm. So in cold weather, wind turbines are consumers of electricity, not producers of electricity.

[More at the link.  Batteries aren't going to solve this.]

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Cancelling Keystone Will Boost Carbon Emissions
« Reply #771 on: February 14, 2021, 09:28:35 AM »
Cancelling Keystone Will Boost Carbon Emissions Equal to Nearly 500K More Cars on Road

https://www.cnsnews.com/article/national/quinn-weimer/report-cancelling-keystone-will-boost-carbon-emissions-equal-nearly

President Joe Biden’s cancellation of the permit for the construction of the Keystone XL pipeline, in the name of curbing climate change, will cause an enormous amount of CO2 to be released into the atmosphere, according to the Energy Equipment and Infrastructure Alliance (EEIA), because oil from Canada will still travel by diesel-fueled trains to U.S. refineries at the Gulf.

... a little basic math reveals that President Biden's Keystone decision will increase carbon emissions equal to putting nearly half a million more cars on the road,” said the EEIA in a press alert.
https://www.eeia.org/aboutus/about-one.cfm?category=Alerts&getone=yes&ID=590
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Also enriches and empowers Russia (and OPEC and Middle Eastern war).  Does anyone remember when "Russian Collusion" was the biggest threat to the country.

Mostly it is a great big penalty on Americans.  A self inflicted wound, and the problem is that the (elected?) perp is still stabbing us with additional, harmful energy policies.

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Biden's Climate Actions Will Cause Electricity Prices to Skyrocket
« Reply #772 on: February 14, 2021, 09:32:16 AM »
Biden's Climate Actions Will Cause Electricity Prices to Skyrocket, Experts Warn

https://neonnettle.com/news/14147-biden-s-climate-actions-will-cause-electricity-prices-to-skyrocket-experts-warn

Already have.  Also see Germany.

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Morons, winter storm is exactly when we need electricity to work
« Reply #773 on: February 16, 2021, 06:54:17 AM »
https://www.foxbusiness.com/energy/texas-electric-grid-operator-says-frozen-wind-turbines-are-hampering-states-power-output-report
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Natural gas furnaces need electricity to work.  Propane furnaces need electricity. Electric heat needs electricity, who knew?  The coldest weather generally follows winter storms.

Wind turbines don't work in low wind, no wind, high wind, ice storms, in high heat or in cold weather.  Solar panels don't work with snow on them, don't work half the day, don't work at night, did we know that?

How about emergency cell phone use when the towers are without power  or when yoy lose the last of your charge.  You EV doesn't work if you left it outside here the last 10 days even if you could charge it. How about putting a charger on your gas powered car?  Off.

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Re: Morons, winter storm is exactly when we need electricity to work
« Reply #774 on: February 16, 2021, 07:31:44 AM »
Some crazy people don't trust TPTB and plan for crisis...


https://www.foxbusiness.com/energy/texas-electric-grid-operator-says-frozen-wind-turbines-are-hampering-states-power-output-report
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Natural gas furnaces need electricity to work.  Propane furnaces need electricity. Electric heat needs electricity, who knew?  The coldest weather generally follows winter storms.

Wind turbines don't work in low wind, no wind, high wind, ice storms, in high heat or in cold weather.  Solar panels don't work with snow on them, don't work half the day, don't work at night, did we know that?

How about emergency cell phone use when the towers are without power  or when yoy lose the last of your charge.  You EV doesn't work if you left it outside here the last 10 days even if you could charge it. How about putting a charger on your gas powered car?  Off.

We trust morons with our most important decisions.

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Re: Winter storm is exactly when we need electricity to work
« Reply #775 on: February 16, 2021, 10:14:11 AM »
Third world countries have unaffordable, unreliable power.

Why do we choose that?  These people aren't stupid; they are dangerous.  Do you want the ambulance to work when you need one and the hospital to be lighted, heated and open?  What if ALL the things we do are important to us and we don't want government planners ordering blackouts or rationing our energy.

Becoming a third world country, from richest in the world, does not advance anything good.

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Re: Winter storm is exactly when we need electricity to work
« Reply #776 on: February 16, 2021, 10:33:51 AM »
The cloud people don't care about the dirt people. Their gated communities are secure.



Third world countries have unaffordable, unreliable power.

Why do we choose that?  These people aren't stupid; they are dangerous.  Do you want the ambulance to work when you need one and the hospital to be lighted, heated and open?  What if ALL the things we do are important to us and we don't want government planners ordering blackouts or rationing our energy.

Becoming a third world country, from richest in the world, does not advance anything good.

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left leaning texas newspaper states wind power not to blame for power outage
« Reply #777 on: February 17, 2021, 07:56:49 AM »
https://www.texastribune.org/2021/02/16/texas-wind-turbines-frozen/

of course it calls it self "nonpartisan"

but :

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/texas-tribune/

OTOH maybe the article is accurate

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Re: left leaning texas newspaper states wind power not to blame for power outage
« Reply #778 on: February 17, 2021, 08:11:17 AM »
https://www.texastribune.org/2021/02/16/texas-wind-turbines-frozen/

of course it calls it self "nonpartisan"

but :

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/texas-tribune/

OTOH maybe the article is accurate

Wind is not to blame. People are to blame for believing it to be anything more than unreliable and subsidizing it and steering resources away from way better sources.

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Re: Energy Politics & Science
« Reply #779 on: February 18, 2021, 08:47:37 PM »
https://calgaryherald.com/news/local-news/kenney-deeply-concerned-over-reports-biden-plans-day-1-order-rescinding-keystone-xl-permit

Jason Kenney, the premier of Canada’s oil-producing province of Alberta, didn’t hold much back in criticizing President Biden's decision to kill the Keystone pipeline. In a Zoom discussion on Wednesday to a Manhattan Institute audience, Kenney said Biden transition aides declined to even discuss the decision before it was announced on Inauguration Day: "That's not how you treat a friend and ally.”

https://calgaryherald.com/news/local-news/kenney-deeply-concerned-over-reports-biden-plans-day-1-order-rescinding-keystone-xl-permit

“The Obama State Department’s own analysis concluded that Keystone XL would actually reduce emissions, as the alternative will be to move this energy by higher emitting and less secure rail,” Kenney said.

He notes the insidious role of U.S. foundations and environmental groups in killing Keystone. “For 12 years, the Rockefeller and other foundations have delayed and now killed the pipeline," he lamented. “Did any of them ever attack the environmental record of Saudi Arabia, Russia, and Venezuela? No, but with the loss of Keystone you will be perversely buying more oil from them."

Liberals often complained of how the Trump Administration alienated our allies. But in less than a month Joe Biden has insulted and injured our staunchest ally.

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Re: Energy Politics & Science
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Re: Energy Politics & Science
« Reply #781 on: February 18, 2021, 10:59:24 PM »
At best, Canada is a frenemy, but a really weak one. The western provinces tend to be ok, but the eastern ones suck.


https://calgaryherald.com/news/local-news/kenney-deeply-concerned-over-reports-biden-plans-day-1-order-rescinding-keystone-xl-permit

Jason Kenney, the premier of Canada’s oil-producing province of Alberta, didn’t hold much back in criticizing President Biden's decision to kill the Keystone pipeline. In a Zoom discussion on Wednesday to a Manhattan Institute audience, Kenney said Biden transition aides declined to even discuss the decision before it was announced on Inauguration Day: "That's not how you treat a friend and ally.”

https://calgaryherald.com/news/local-news/kenney-deeply-concerned-over-reports-biden-plans-day-1-order-rescinding-keystone-xl-permit

“The Obama State Department’s own analysis concluded that Keystone XL would actually reduce emissions, as the alternative will be to move this energy by higher emitting and less secure rail,” Kenney said.

He notes the insidious role of U.S. foundations and environmental groups in killing Keystone. “For 12 years, the Rockefeller and other foundations have delayed and now killed the pipeline," he lamented. “Did any of them ever attack the environmental record of Saudi Arabia, Russia, and Venezuela? No, but with the loss of Keystone you will be perversely buying more oil from them."

Liberals often complained of how the Trump Administration alienated our allies. But in less than a month Joe Biden has insulted and injured our staunchest ally.

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Energy Politics, One of nation's highest authority doesn't know?
« Reply #782 on: February 25, 2021, 07:28:27 AM »
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/tyler-o-neil/2021/02/25/5-times-bidens-interior-nominee-refused-to-answer-basic-questions-on-energy-n1428182

According to data from the Department of Transportation,
https://www.fraserinstitute.org/research/safety-transportation-oil-and-gas-pipelines-or-rail
pipelines are the safest method, with 99.999997 percent of gas and crude oil moved safely through interstate pipelines.
https://empower.afpm.org/safety/are-pipelines-safe#:~:text=US%20Department%20of%20Transportation%20data,safely%20through%20interstate%20transmission%20pipelines.
Yet Haaland acted as though the question was extremely complicated and arcane.

“Do you believe truck and train traffic moving energy is safer than a pipeline or do you think pipelines are safer than truck and train traffic?” Lankford asked.

“Again, I wish I could answer that question. I don’t know what the question is, I haven’t seen those statistics,” Haaland said.
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It's SO hard to be an honest leftist.  Yes Senator, we know our policies to put people out of work.  We want oil moved the least safe way.  Frankly, we want you to pull into gas stations across the country and see "out of gas" signs as soon and as often as possible. 

What did Biden / Dem voters think was going to happen??

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What happened in Texas - while I was out?
« Reply #783 on: February 25, 2021, 07:53:12 AM »
Wish I could size this chart better.

The grid in Texas is not "winterized"

The subsidies go to the least efficient, least reliable sources.

Nuclear energy performed best, by far!  Strangely, that is the most carbon free!

What did we learn from that?  NOTHING!  Do more of the same.

Wind and solar performed worst - when needed most.  As always!

DOES ANYBODY CARE?

Best analysis comes from the Center for the American Experiment:

https://www.americanexperiment.org/2021/02/wind-energy-fails-grading-the-reliability-of-energy-sources-during-the-texas-power-outages/
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Higher Energy Prices Hurt Working Middle Class Families Worst
« Reply #786 on: March 08, 2021, 07:14:44 AM »
The inflection point was when the Supreme Court refused to hear the election fraud case.  Every policy since has been anti-energy and anti-consumer and it can only get worse in the foreseeable future.

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/stacey-lennox/2021/03/07/trump-was-right-gas-is-at-2-75-a-gallon-and-projeced-to-go-nowhere-but-up-n1430634

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oil prices at highs
« Reply #787 on: March 08, 2021, 01:06:35 PM »
https://oilprice.com/

thanks
Joe and crew

how stupid is this



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Energy Costs
« Reply #790 on: April 23, 2021, 10:50:02 AM »
See if these columns line up.

Solar  Wind onshore  Gas  Wind offshore  Coal  Nuclear   
 100             60             100             135          90        55

https://www.oecd-nea.org/ndd/pubs/2018/7441-full-costs-2018-es.pdf

Odd that the safest and cleanest, most reliable energy source is the cheapest, and we ignore it.
President Bozo will have us jump through $6 trillion hoops to get a worse energy grid.

Most of your electric bill goes to taxes and regulations.  If you built the safest and cleanest in the first place, maybe you wouldn't need all the taxes, regulations and subsidies.

Only fossil fuels especially natural gas scale up with demand. The more solar and wind you use, that scale down at all the wrong times, the more fossil fuel use you need. Current policy, maximum solar and wind, stop fracking, ignore nuclear, raise rates, have blackouts.
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Gov. Whitmer goes after a pipeline
« Reply #791 on: May 21, 2021, 07:09:10 PM »



The cyber attack on the Colonial Pipeline has led to surging gasoline prices on the East Coast. But that isn’t stopping Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer from trying to shut down another crucial pipeline, no matter the harm across the Midwest and Canada.

Enbridge Energy’s Line 5 transports more than half a million barrels a day of oil and natural gas liquids through Canada and the Great Lakes region. Late last year Ms. Whitmer moved to revoke and terminate an easement that lets the pipeline operate for 4.5 miles across the Straits of Mackinac. She’s seeking a state court injunction to force Enbridge to shut down Line 5 and “permanently decommission” the pipeline.

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Ms. Whitmer claims Enbridge has created an “unacceptable risk of a catastrophic oil spill in the Great Lakes that could devastate our economy and way of life.” But the Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration, the federal regulator that oversees Line 5, said in January that it is “presently aware of no unsafe or hazardous conditions that would warrant shutdown of Line 5.”

No mode of moving energy is risk-free, but pipelines are much safer than rail. Enbridge says that over two decades Line 5 has seen five incidents that resulted in the release of 882 gallons of product. Compare that to the 2013 Lac-Mégantic disaster, where a train carrying oil derailed, spilling some 1.6 million gallons and causing an explosion that killed some 47 people.

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Enbridge is seeking permits to build a new pipeline to replace Line 5, but the project is years from completion. Consumer Energy Alliance, an advocacy group, says a shutdown of Line 5 could cause propane shortages in Michigan’s Upper Peninsula, and Midwestern farmers could face rising costs for diesel fuel and more. A report by the group found that, even by conservative estimates, Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Indiana would lose more than 33,750 jobs and $265.7 million in annual state tax revenue from the pipeline’s closure.


Refineries in Michigan, Ohio and Pennsylvania would lose much of their crude oil supply. United Steelworkers Local 912 President Justin Donley has warned that closing Line 5 would jeopardize the Toledo Refining Company, which isn’t equipped to receive oil by truck. The result would be a “devastating loss of income” for nearly 350 union workers and “further economic collapse of the Northern Ohio/Southern Michigan economy,” he said.

Ms. Whitmer is also causing a foreign policy flap. A 1977 treaty between the U.S. and Canada bars a “public authority in the territory of either” signatory nation from taking actions that would have the effect of “impeding, diverting, redirecting or interfering with in any way the transmission of hydrocarbon in transit” by pipeline between the two countries. The treaty makes exceptions for emergencies or natural disasters and temporary shutdowns for safety concerns, but not for gubernatorial whim.

The Canadian government raised these treaty concerns this month in an amicus brief filed in U.S. federal court. Refineries in Ontario depend on the pipeline, and so does the Toronto Pearson International Airport for jet fuel. “A Line 5 shutdown would severely disrupt the supply and increase the price consumers pay for fuel across Quebec and Ontario,” the Canadians argued, adding that “in western Canada, the loss of Line 5 would have a devastating impact on the industry and economy.”

Enbridge has kept the pipeline open and is counter-suing in federal court. But Ms. Whitmer’s pipeline war is a reminder that for today’s progressives, fossil fuels are enemy number one no matter the economic cost.


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Re: Energy Politics & Science, Oil drilling on Alaska's North Slope, NYT
« Reply #793 on: June 05, 2021, 01:19:23 PM »
'Ecosystem is in disarray'?  Maybe it's journalism that's in disarray.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/26/climate/biden-alaska-drilling.html

Biden Administration Defends Huge Alaska Oil Drilling Project
The administration says the country must pivot away from fossil fuels but backed a project set to produce more than 100,000 barrels of oil each day for 30 years.

By Lisa Friedman
Published May 26, 2021

WASHINGTON — The Biden administration is defending a huge Trump-era oil and gas project in the North Slope of Alaska designed to produce more than 100,000 barrels of oil a day for the next 30 years, despite President Biden’s pledge to pivot the country away from fossil fuels.

The multibillion-dollar plan from ConocoPhillips to drill in part of the National Petroleum Reserve was approved by the Trump administration late last year. Environmental groups sued, arguing that the federal government failed to take into account the impact that drilling would have on fragile wildlife and that burning the oil would have on global warming.

The project, known as Willow, set up a choice for the Biden administration: decline to defend oil drilling and hinder a lucrative project that conflicts with its climate policy or support a federal decision backed by the state of Alaska, some tribal nations, unions and key officials, including Lisa Murkowski, a moderate Republican senator seen as a potential ally of the administration in an evenly split Senate.

On Wednesday, the administration filed a brief in U.S. District Court for Alaska, defending the Trump administration decision to greenlight the Willow project.

In a statement, the Interior Department said that the Trump administration decision complied with the environmental rules in place at the time and that the plaintiffs did not challenge the approval “within the time limitations associated with environmental review projects” for the National Petroleum Reserve.

The administration declined to explain how its position on the Willow project aligns with its climate change policies. But in its court filing, the government said the Trump administration adequately considered Willow’s impacts on fish, caribou and polar bear habitat. It also upheld the method used by the prior administration to account for the greenhouse gas emissions generated by the project.

“Conoco does have valid lease rights,” the filing states, noting that under law the company is entitled to develop its leases “subject to reasonable regulation.”

In a paradox worthy of Kafka, ConocoPhillips plans to install “chillers” into the permafrost — which is fast melting because of climate change — to keep it solid enough to support the equipment to drill for oil, the burning of which will continue to worsen ice melt.

Over the past 60 years, Alaska has warmed more than twice as fast as the rest of the United States. Arctic ecosystems are in disarray, sea ice is disappearing, sea levels are rising and the ground is thawing.

A federal court halted construction in February while the case is pending. The court could ultimately still decide against the project, its critics said. But oil and gas industry officials and members of Alaska’s congressional delegation, some of whom personally appealed to President Biden this week, said they believed the administration’s support would help it proceed.

Senator Dan Sullivan, Republican of Alaska, called the project a “big, big deal for Alaska, a big deal in my view for America” when speaking with reporters earlier this week. He said he raised the Willow project directly with President Biden when he and other members of the Alaska delegation went to the White House on Monday for the signing of a tourism bill allowing cruise ships to visit Alaska.

“He said he’d look into it and get back to us,” Mr. Sullivan told reporters after that White House meeting.

The decision comes just days after the International Energy Agency, the world’s top energy body, warned that governments must stop investing in new fossil fuel projects if they want to keep the increase in average global temperatures below 2 degrees Celsius, compared to preindustrial levels. That’s the threshold beyond which scientists say the Earth will experience irreversible damage.
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Mr. Biden has taken significant steps to limit oil and gas development in the United States. One of his first acts as president was to temporarily freeze new oil and gas leases on public lands and offshore waters. He also placed a temporary moratorium on oil and gas drilling in Alaska’s Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, which is still in place.

The Willow project is in the northeastern portion of the National Petroleum Reserve–Alaska, an area the federal government set aside for oil and gas development. The initial discovery of oil in the Willow area was made by ConocoPhillips Alaska in 2017, and the company has said the project is expected to create more than 1,000 jobs during peak construction, and more than 400 permanent jobs.

In October, David Bernhardt, Mr. Trump’s secretary of the Interior Department, approved a plan for the company to drill up to three sites and build about 37 miles of gravel roads, at least one airstrip, 386 miles of pipelines and an oil processing facility to support that drilling.
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Other Alaska Native groups, however, said they welcomed the jobs as well as the state and local revenue expected to be generated by the project. In an April letter to Interior Secretary Deb Haaland, George Edwardson, president of the Inupiat Community of the Arctic Slope, called oil drilling “critical to the economic survival of the eight Inupiat villages that call this region home” and said the Willow project had the group’s “strong support.”

“Alaska’s oil and gas industry provides much-needed jobs for our people, tax revenue to support our schools and health clinics, and support for basic public services,” he wrote.


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Re: Energy Politics & Science
« Reply #794 on: June 06, 2021, 12:37:28 PM »
https://firehydrantoffreedom.com/index.php?topic=1096.msg133562#msg133562



No reason given for the the unexplained increases - that hurt women, minorities and children worst.

Except for the cancellation of pipelines, drilling, fracking and the increased likelihood of Middle East war in a market based on futures contracts.

Update:  More supply efforts blocked.  Prices up since that post. 

Analysis:  The economic collapse of 2008 might not have happened and would not have been so severe if ANWR had been opened years before.  Critics say ANWR would only supply 8% of out oil and gas needs.  Shortage of 2008 was 8% of our oil and gas needs.
https://www.alaskajournal.com/2018-09-21/commentary-alaskans-should-be-skeptical-anti-anwr-economic-arguments

CNN:  Iraq war was fought for foreign oil - [after Democrats rejected domestic sources in the 90s].
https://www.cnn.com/2013/03/19/opinion/iraq-war-oil-juhasz/index.html

Who benefits from the oil and gas scarcities and resulting price increases of the Biden years:  Russia, Iran, Saudi, Maduro?, Exxon, etc.
Who loses:  The American economy, the American worker, the American consumer.
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Re: Energy Politics & Science, ANWR
« Reply #795 on: June 06, 2021, 01:05:00 PM »
"We've got tons of oil and gas elsewhere."

   - Actually not under this administration.  Fracking blocked.  Offshore blocked.  Federal lands (most of the west) blocked.  No new refineries. 

Not all sources are created equal.  Light, sweet crude means lower sulfur. lower carbon dioxide, fewer impurities, pollutants, and flows far better through pipelines - takes less energy to pump it- if anyone cared.  [And shipping it from the Middle East is not safer or a lesser environmental impact.]
https://canaryusa.com/crude-oil-refinery-primer/

US Government under Biden isn't blocking new supplies from this one source.  To them, it's not about ANWR or wildlife or refuge anymore.  They are moving to block all supplies from all sources.  The Biden administration wants to end the freedom to drive when, where and how you choose.  They are blocking new and existing supplies of gas, creating new scarcities, driving prices up, banning new government vehicles from even using gas.  Then, if still in power, they will declare the new high prices unfair and ration the shortages through other more 'fair' means than price, meaning the government will decide who can and cannot buy gas.  IMHO.

Carbon-free and fossil fuel free sources of energy are possible.  See new nuclear plant announced in Wyoming - with no backing I can see from the federal government.  Meanwhile, what? 

Economic decline is a choice and current energy policy is a big part of it.
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Re: Energy Politics & Science
« Reply #796 on: June 06, 2021, 03:02:20 PM »
We are in complete agreement on the general feckless stupidity of Magoo's policies,  but in this one particular case I am OK with this one.

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Out of gas, burn more coal
« Reply #797 on: June 20, 2021, 07:33:28 AM »
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Depleted-Gas-Stocks-Force-Europe-To-Use-More-Coal.html
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This story starts with Europe but is also true in the US we are canceling drilling and pipelines when oddly it was natural gas that lowered CO2 emissions.  Substitute coal and there goes the planet.

"Coal use in power generation is also on the rise in the United States, where the price rally in natural gas is discouraging parts of gas-fired electricity generation and is set to give coal a short-term boost this summer."
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Gas-Prices/Quick-Rise-In-US-Natural-Gas-Prices-To-Boost-Coal-Demand.html

Europe must be proud of all the safe, clean nuclear energy they closed down and never rebuilt, while they jet to their save-the-world
conferences. Meanwhile, when we need energy, we follow the lead of China and burn coal, even though we all know that choice is the dirtiest.

Talk, talk, talk about smart growth and planning, 'build back better' the latest, but we are governed by morons.


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Re: Energy Politics & Science
« Reply #798 on: June 20, 2021, 07:44:31 AM »
".Talk, talk, talk about smart growth and planning but we are truly governed by morons."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAdJI8xCghs