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Re: Magoo asks Saudis to up oil production
« Reply #803 on: August 11, 2021, 04:20:21 PM »
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9884057/Biden-asks-Saudi-Arabia-OPEC-produce-oil-prices-pumps-rise.html

HE WANTS THE SAUDIS TO PRODUCE WHAT HE STOPPED THE AMERICANS FROM PRODUCING.  Scarce, essential resource.  We  Impeach doesn't even start to get at the problem.

Profanity,  disbelief, how do we respond to someone locking us in a room and shutting off our air supply?  First he shut down US pipelines and production.  Now he wants to transfer that dependence back to the Middle East?  Are you f***ing kidding me?

Issue after issue after issue we can't help but ask, are they stupid or are they trying to destroy us?

All transportation sector to the grid and no upgrades to the grid.  No new nuclear and closing coal and natural gas.  Nat. gas is what gave us the emissions reductions of the fracking boom -  and they can't see it and want to end it. 

Blackouts are us.

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Energy Politics, UK reopens coal plant to replace wind failure
« Reply #804 on: September 07, 2021, 10:18:53 AM »
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-58469238

UK fires up coal power plant as gas prices soar

Warm, still, autumn weather has meant wind farms have not generated as much power as normal, while soaring prices have made it too costly to rely on gas.
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Has anyone ever heard of NUCLEAR?

UK is still using 50% fossil fuels BECAUSE of false reliance on "renewables".

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Energy Politics, Lefties Reap what they sow
« Reply #805 on: September 07, 2021, 11:10:06 AM »
Leftwing MN Gov Tim Walz was chased off the stage in (conservative) Alexandria MN by left wingers as a "climate denier" for supporting the rebuilding of one aging pipeline across the state.  Same group also blocked access to his state fair booth over the same issue.

https://alphanews.org/video-walz-run-off-stage-by-environmentalist-protesters/

Quite a contrast.  In the videos you can see how beautiful the trees, parks and lakes are this labor day in this west central Minnesota town, home of the MacG compound, and how ugly the human leftwing protest is.

Subject previously beaten to death here, but pipelines are the cleanest, safest way to transport the energy we need now and we are buying it instead from OPEC fueling and funding terror groups and war instead of using what we have naturally here. 

Governor Walz and his leftwing rhetoric and leftwing education takeover helped build and validate the movement that wants him beheaded politically.  Pipelines that keep trucks and trains from having to transport our energy emit CO2?  That's bullsh*t and everyone knows it except the Democrat platforms, state and national, validating these anti-American extremists. 

Here's an idea.  Both parties stand up to the radical environmentalists who would destroy humanity to achieve nothing, so that voters would have a choice.

Curious, how did these assh*le protesters get to Alexandria?  Wind energy??
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Re: Energy Politics & Science
« Reply #806 on: September 07, 2021, 11:16:29 AM »
"nuclear"

In medicine -

Magnetic Resonance Imaging,  MRI

used to be called Nuclear Magnetic Resonance,  NMR

Name was changed precisely because the word nuclear scared patients supposedly.

But it is imaging based on making protons wobble in nuclei ( I think)

Perhaps nuclear energy fans can consider a new marketing ploy

   CLEAN FISSION ENERGY   or something akin to that




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Re: Energy Politics & Science, Famous people caught reading the forum
« Reply #807 on: September 09, 2021, 04:48:10 PM »
SPOILER: IT WON’T. Energy Dept. plan says 40% of U.S. power could come from solar by 2035. You want electric cars and lower carbon emissions by 2035? Start building nuclear plants now. The rest is bullshit.
Posted [today] at 1:30 pm by Glenn Reynolds 

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/


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Re: Energy Politics & Science
« Reply #809 on: September 20, 2021, 03:58:11 PM »
By: Geopolitical Futures

Energy bailout? Britain’s business secretary on Monday met with energy companies to discuss rising natural gas prices. The energy sector had earlier warned the secretary that only 10 of the 55 companies in the industry could still be operating by the end of the year. Rising demand for gas and declining supplies have led to a spike in wholesale prices, much of which must be absorbed by the energy sector because of price caps. London is now considering an emergency rescue package for the industry.

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Energy Politics: Indonesia Clings to Coal
« Reply #810 on: September 22, 2021, 03:00:14 PM »
Indonesia Clings to Coal

Denial of science, does anyone know just how DUMB it is for the US to be blocking the production AND EXPORT of natural gas?

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2021/09/loose-ends-138.php

https://www.reuters.com/article/climate-change-indonesia-coal/indonesia-clings-to-coal-despite-green-vision-for-economy-idUSKBN2GG0AB

JAKARTA (Reuters) – Even as Indonesia wins cautious praise from some green groups for ambitious plans to cut carbon emissions, the world’s biggest exporter of thermal coal shows no sign of weaning itself off the polluting fuel any time soon.



World's most populous countries:
4. Indonesia
https://www.census.gov/popclock/world

Countries 1 and 2, China and India also clinging to coal.

Cause:  Bad policies and not enough prosperity.  Otherwise, everyone prefers clean over dirty, and the technology and resources are available.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_power_in_Indonesia



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Lithium
« Reply #813 on: September 30, 2021, 04:18:42 AM »
Lithium batteries, another false panacea?

Thinking through the electric car push

By Alexander E. Hooke

Next time, be careful what you wish for—Dionysus, god of wine, to King Midas.

Lithium has been coined “white gold” for a good reason. In carbonated form, it quickly replaces the “black gold” of oil as a centerpiece for new energy sources. Lithium is an essential element to smartphones and batteries for electric cars. Is it a panacea to relieve us from the carbon footprints of gasoline-driven autos and trucks, thus protecting the environment from fossil fuels?

Unlike lead batteries, lithium-based batteries are light and long-lasting. They are less susceptible to extreme temperatures and easily recharged. According to advocates, electric cars present a realistic dream to reverse the threatening trends of human-induced global warming.

However, there are considerable drawbacks to this dream. Lithium is not easily obtained. According to a 2020 study by the Institute for Energy Research, it can take 500,000 gallons of water to extract a metric ton of lithium from the earth. While much of this extraction is done in other countries, especially in China and South America, soon the United States will need to decide how to extract lithium within its own borders to establish independence. Another reliance on foreign sources for our energy, such as the OPEC oil debacles in earlier decades, could be disastrous.

This problem leads to controversies over where to obtain lithium from our lands. So far, the areas with the most potential are protected under designation as natural wonders or national parks that deserve protection. For example, places such as the Panamint valley in the western part of Death Valley hold rich deposits of “white gold.” If permitted, companies would need to build major roads that can handle trucks and commuter traffic. This could threaten the pristine and remarkably eerie aspects of Death Valley that attract travelers from all over the world.

Another problem concerns how 500,000 gallons of briny water used to extract lithium can be safely released into nature. Researchers and reporters have found that this altered water can easily kill a variety of wildlife and fish. Indeed, if consistency is a guideline, those opposed to fracking for oil should raise similar opposition to lithium extraction.

A third problem is the simple availability of freshwater. States in the Southwest are facing drastic depletion of freshwater from the Colorado River and Lake Meade. Water rationing might soon be a reality. Should we speculate on sending water from the Great Lakes or our Maryland reservoirs to the millions of citizens who chose to live in the desert? Imagine choosing between directing 500,000 gallons of freshwater to nourish crops, animals, and fellow citizens or to lithium deposits to energize electric vehicles.

In this light, we might be faced with a Devil’s bargain: Smartphones and electric cars or our mountains, rivers, and native creatures?

This dilemma has caught environmentalists in a strange paradox. While they support the goal of electric vehicles (i.e., cleaner and cooler air), they cannot abide by the side effects generated by lithium excavation. No wonder environmentalist Guillermo Gonzalize remarks, “This (lithium) isn’t a green solution. It’s not a solution at all.” “Beware what you wish for…” is an adage found in Aesop’s Fables, ancient Chinese tales, and generations of folk wisdom. In the case of King Midas, he wished that everything he touched turned into gold. Have not many of had similar wishes? Ingrates as humans tend to be, we soon become both inundated and inured with our unexpected goodies.

King Midas soon regretted his wish and pleaded with Dionysus to reverse the order of things. Presumably, if you are the god of wine, you are tranquil and joyful enough to forgive mortals their moments of insatiability.

In this light, despite good intentions, it remains dubious that the electric car is a panacea. It is also not clear how humanity’s incessant demand for more energy to support our endless needs and wishes will be addressed by a Dionysus of the 21st century. The current demand for lithium will be a test for today’s deities.

Alexander E. Hooke is a professor of phi-losophy at Stevenson University. His most recent book is Philosophy Sketches—700 Words at a Time, 2nd Edition (Apprentice House)

We might be faced with a Devil’s bargain: Smartphones and electric cars or our mountains, rivers, and native creatures? This dilemma has caught environmentalists in a strange paradox.

While they support the goal of electric vehicles (i.e., cleaner and cooler air), they cannot abide by the side effects generated by lithium excavation. No wonder environmentalist Guillermo Gonzalize remarks, “This (lithium) isn’t a green solution. It’s not a solution at all.”


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Re: Energy Politics & Science
« Reply #814 on: September 30, 2021, 05:41:11 AM »
Wow, good point.  Same liberals favoring all this, electric cars, iPhone, I-devices, oppose mining, oppose nuclear, oppose coal, basically oppose electricity, but want to charge everything up at night.

My hybrids use NiMH, not as cool as lithium.  My ebike and power tools use lithium.  If I really had to get somewhere without fossil fuels I would have to ebike all day and charge all day.  I mowed 3 city yards with 2 lithium batteries yesterday.  Recharge time for those batteries is really long.  An hour of work takes a day to recharge.  Not much gets done at that rate.

Tesla charge is 50 - 85 kW, 300 watt hour per mile.  8 hours of direct sun on a giant panel will let you drive 4 miles from home and back.  Not a very productive day for a tradesman. Do the math for your home furnace or AC, it isn't going to work.  Then they say home solar needs lithium to charge your lithium (but oppose mining) .  How much water and money will that take?  If we had free and magical batteries coming, we would still need to build nuclear power first.  Ten years lead time and nobody is even thinking of starting it yet.

All these wild ideas for greener and cleaner require building prosperity first.  Polar opposite of the 'green' agenda. Imagine that.

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Energy Trilemma
« Reply #815 on: October 01, 2021, 06:57:39 AM »
https://www.americanexperiment.org/matt-ridley-the-root-of-the-energy-crisis/

Put the economists at
Center for the American Experiment
on your regular read list.

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Strafor: High Energy Prices coming
« Reply #816 on: October 01, 2021, 06:30:24 PM »
SSESSMENTS
The World Braces for a Period of High Energy Prices
14 MIN READOct 1, 2021 | 21:15 GMT





Cars line up at a gas station in the U.K. village of Odiham amid fuel shortages on Sept. 30, 2021.
Cars line up at a gas station in the U.K. village of Odiham amid fuel shortages on Sept. 30, 2021.

(ADRIAN DENNIS/AFP via Getty Images)

High global energy prices are likely to remain through the end of the Northern Hemisphere’s winter, which will undermine COVID-19 economic recoveries in energy-importing countries, hurting low-income population segments the hardest. The higher prices will also exacerbate the global manufacturing sector’s fragile recovery and ongoing supply chain challenges, while increasing pressure on governments’ energy transition plans. On Sept. 28, European light sweet crude benchmark Brent hit $80 per barrel for the first time since 2018. As of Oct. 1, European natural gas hubs Dutch TTF and U.K. NBP benchmarks, as well as the Asian JKM liquified natural gas (LNG) benchmarks, were also all trading between $30 to $35 per British thermal unit (mmBtu), which is equivalent to about $170 to $200 per barrel of oil. Brent has since fallen back to around $78 per barrel. But even if prices remain in the $70s and natural gas demand rises, significant impacts will remain.

Although natural gas prices have risen, the United States’ natural gas market continues to be shielded from global market conditions, with U.S. benchmark Henry Hub still trading at just $6 to $7 per mmBtu.
Energy markets are likely to remain tight over the coming months and much of the price risk is on the high side. How high natural gas prices go will depend on the severity of the coming winter in the Northern Hemisphere. In Europe, gas storages are low for this time of year as high prices and the gas supply crunch has deterred companies from raising inventories quickly. As of Sept. 28, European gas storage levels were at 73% full compared with 94.9% one year ago and a five-year seasonal average of 89% — meaning that increased heating demands from a cold snap could stress stockpiles. This also comes at a time when oil demand is already on the rise due to the global economic recovery from COVID-19 and the partial resumption of travel. High natural gas prices are also driving oil substitution for natural gas in industries where the two can be swapped as well, including power generation and plastics. A high level of substitution could see global oil demand increase by as much as 1-2 million barrels per day (bpd). Regardless, high oil prices will put pressure on OPEC+ — particularly at its Oct. 4 meeting — to change its current production plans and add more oil to the market on top of the 400,000 bpd the bloc is slated to add each month through the end of the year. Should oil prices remain around $80 per barrel, it may cause enough demand destruction for OPEC+ to step in. But throughout the course of the COVID-19 pandemic, the bloc has shown it will only conservatively raise oil production levels.

In a Sept. 13 note to a client, Bank of America said oil prices briefly returning to $100 per barrel cannot be ruled out in the case of a colder-than-usual winter this year. In a Sept. 27 client note, Goldman Sachs — already one of the most bullish oil price forecasters — also raised its end of the year forecast for Brent from $80 to $90 per barrel. And in a Sept. 23 client note, Citi more than doubled its Q4 forecast for natural gas prices for JKM and TTF to $28.80 and $27.70 per mmBtu, respectively. Citi also said prices could increase to $100 per mmBtu (equivalent to roughly $580 per barrel of oil) if the Northern Hemisphere sees particularly low temperatures this winter.
Higher natural gas prices in Europe will also fuel speculation that Russia is cutting back supplies to prop up prices and pressure Germany and Europe to give full approval to the Nord Stream 2 pipeline. Swedish trading house Trafigura downplayed such speculation in a Sept. 27 conversation with Bloomberg, saying that Russia was dealing with low inventories, seasonal maintenance and surging export commitments to Turkey and Asia that limits potential exports to the European market at this time.
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In Latin America and the Caribbean, record energy prices will drive social unrest and inflationary pressures. Governments in Latin America and the Caribbean are likely to increase existing subsidies and tax exemptions in an effort to offset the effect of the higher prices on low-income households, as well as special interest groups like Brazilian truck drivers who have previously staged economically devastating protests over high prices. For countries with high fiscal deficits such as Brazil and Mexico, additional spending on subsidies could come at the cost of increasing fiscal pressures. As many countries in the region are recovering from the economic devastation of COVID-19, higher energy prices will likely spark civil unrest. The risk of rising energy prices sparking related anti-government protests is particularly high in Argentina, Chile and Colombia, which each have upcoming elections. Such economically motivated unrest in the lead-up to the votes could contribute to a shift toward leftist political leadership in these three countries, as seen in Peru’s June general election.

For Brazil and Mexico — Latin America’s two largest oil producers — higher prices could help fund more government subsidies and/or welfare programs, as well as boost the profits of their respective state-run energy giants Pemex and Petrobras, which could, in turn, increases tax revenue. Increased energy prices will also benefit Argentina and other countries with high taxes and tariffs on oil. Meanwhile, the region’s emerging oil producers like Colombia, Guyana and Suriname will likely see increased foreign investment, though European majors are unlikely to contribute largely to that boost given their aggressive focus on shifting new investments away from hydrocarbons.

Asia-Pacific
High energy prices will drive power outages in China as the wider Asia-Pacific region prepares for winter. In China, high prices — particularly for coal — and environmental policies designed to reduce emissions are causing power shortages across China. Power producers are also in a bind because Beijing continues to restrict its ability to pass on high electricity prices to consumers, causing many power plants to reduce electricity generation instead. Should China allow consumers to bear power prices or deepen subsidies for power producers, China’s energy demand could soar higher, which is good for China’s coal producers but could further raise global prices for other fuels. A cold snap last winter pushed China to use more natural gas, but with current LNG prices also now high, some power companies will still continue to reduce generation — even if officials improve at rationing electricity to minimize production delays and shortages in thermal coal.

Southeast Asia and Japan are also relying more heavily on pricey LNG to get through the winter electricity surge, which is driving policy efforts to both expand LNG exploration and extraction and reconsider more reliable alternative energies like nuclear, in the case of Japan. South Korea and Japan could again find themselves in a similar situation from last winter, when Asian LNG prices spiked to a then-record of nearly $30 per mmBtu in January. Similar to China, high energy prices will further complicate already fragile economic recoveries in East and Southeast Asia, particularly as many of these nations are considering reopening their economies despite ongoing COVID-19 outbreaks and incomplete vaccination campaigns, which will further increase regional energy demand from manufacturers, adding to the winter power surge. The near universality of this energy squeeze in Asia, as well as the continued economic impacts of COVID-19 shutdowns, will minimize widespread manufacturing relocations, though countries heavily exposed to power-strapped markets like China may make short-term moves to avoid production delays.

Eurasia
Russia will benefit from high energy prices, despite accusations of market manipulation. Higher prices will be a boon for Russia’s state-owned gas monopoly Gazprom and oil giant Rosneft, as well as private Russian companies like LNG producer Novatek. These energy producers’ increased revenues will provide a boost to Russia’s economy and ease constraints on the country’s federal budget. Other top hydrocarbon-producing countries in the region — namely, Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan and Turkmenistan — will also reap the benefits of higher prices.

Russia’s Gazprom, which has not booked additional gas transit to Europe via Ukraine since this spring despite record prices, will maintain gas transit levels through Ukraine. Additional Russian gas flows to Europe will instead primarily come via Nord Stream undersea pipeline to Germany and the Yamal-Europe pipeline via Poland and Belarus — providing additional transit revenues for those states.

Record energy prices in Europe will lead to persistent accusations that Gazprom and possibly other Russian producers are engaging in a Kremlin-approved effort to pressure or influence European states, tacitly reminding their governments that Russia can use high gas prices in winter to cause major political damage to European governments if they do not acquiesce to Kremlin’s desires. Russia is interested in convincing Europe of the necessity of the Nord Stream 2 pipeline and will seek through multiple avenues to convince European regulators to delay its operation once certification is completed, which is currently expected in January 2022. While the merits of the accusations of market manipulation are debatable and the Kremlin will continue to deny them, the price crunch will still bolster those in Europe calling for their states to invest in green alternatives and, in turn, reduce their energy dependence on Russia in the long term.

Europe
Rising energy prices are likely to slow down Europe’s post-pandemic economic recovery and lead to higher social unrest. Industries will face higher operating costs and households face higher costs of living, reducing their disposable income. Inventories at storage facilities across the continent are at dangerously low levels for this time of year, while Norway and Russia are struggling to meet natural gas and oil demands from their European customers. In the European Union, rising carbon prices are also contributing to higher costs for industries. Meanwhile, in the United Kingdom, insufficient wind has reduced the contribution of wind energy to the country’s supply mix. If this winter is particularly cold, European countries could face greater competition for LNG imports with East Asian countries, which are dealing with their own energy supply problems. This could put European companies across various sectors of the economy — from fertilizer producers to car factories — out of business. It could also result in higher inflation across Europe, which would have a particularly negative impact on low-income households, especially if food prices go up.

Should the current energy crunch in Europe continue, it could have significant social and political repercussions across the Continent. Governments are likely to provide subsidies and tax waivers, particularly to low-income households, to mitigate the impact of higher energy prices. But this could come at the cost of deepening their already high fiscal deficits, which would make it even harder for governments to return to fiscal discipline in the short-to-medium term. The risk of anti-government protests and an escalation of social unrest is particularly high in Southern Europe, where unemployment is still below pre-pandemic levels, but cannot be ruled out in other parts of the Continent. Finally, the ongoing energy crisis in Europe has led to louder criticism, particularly from countries in Central and Eastern Europe, of the European Commission’s plans to tighten its Emissions Trading System (ETS) and expand it to additional sectors of the economy as a part of its push to make the bloc carbon neutral by 2050. Critics argue Brussels’ plan will disproportionately affect low-income households and result in renewed protests like France’s Yellow Vest movement. Defenders of the plan, however, argue that rising oil prices actually underscore the need for a faster energy transition in the bloc.

The Middle East and North Africa
A rise in energy prices will benefit many governments in the Middle East and North African region, which is home to some of the world’s largest oil and gas reserves. Higher revenues will offer relief to indebted countries heavily reliant on energy exports like Iraq and Algeria, helping fund crucial budget items like public sector salaries that have taken a hit amid the pandemic-related drops in oil revenue. Higher energy export revenues will also benefit Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Qatar and Kuwait’s state-run energy producers, enabling these Arab Gulf states to funnel more money into economic diversification efforts by helping pad their government budgets.

Should prices remain high for an extended period, however, it will risk also prolonging Middle Eastern and North African countries’ economic dependence on energy revenues, which will eventually become a liability and reduce the region’s market competitiveness once prices eventually come back down. Higher energy prices will also risk exacerbating U.S.-Saudi tensions over the former’s oil production policy, with Washington pressuring Riyadh to adjust its output more in line with its capacity to help manage global energy prices.

Meanwhile, for the region’s energy importers, higher prices will risk slowing near-term economic growth following pandemic-related slumps. This risk will be especially pronounced in countries like Lebanon and Turkey, where the added cost will exacerbate already high commodity prices and inflation — fueling more anti-government anger by further crippling citizens’ purchasing power. Higher energy prices will also encourage existing investment plans in countries like Egypt that are net energy importers seeking to become exporters.

South Asia
In South Asia, high energy prices risk slowing — and potentially even halting — the economic recoveries of the region’s largely import-dependent countries. India, which imports more than 85% of its oil supply, has already seen high domestic fuel prices in recent months. Higher fuel prices will increase inflation at a critical time of India’s economic recovery as vaccine coverage rises, and as lockdown measures and restrictions ease. On Sept. 30, India increased the local natural gas price from $1.78 mmBtu to $2.90 mmBtu for the next six months,

Increased energy costs will also exacerbate inflation in Sri Lanka, which already is reeling under a liquidity crunch and high foreign debt — raising the risk of food and other essential goods shortages in the country. Meanwhile, Pakistan, which is heavily reliant on LNG imports for its electricity needs, could see increased inflation and power outages in the coming months. Indeed, LNG import terminal officials In Pakistan are already warning that widespread blackouts are possible if prices continue to rise, potentially provoking social unrest.

Sub-Saharan Africa
African energy producers will struggle to meet demand as their consumers threaten unrest. Sub-Saharan Africa’s oil producers — namely Angola and Nigeria, Equatorial Guinea, the Republic of Congo and Gabon — are currently reaping the benefits of increased prices. These countries will try to use the profits to fuel their pandemic recovery efforts and/or help improve their fiscal position. But, even for oil-producing countries, the vast majority of economic activity for most citizens remains in other sectors. This means that if governments do not use higher oil windfalls to increase public spending, people living in these countries will likely see little improvement in their own lives and pocketbooks.

In Nigeria, sub-Saharan Africa’s biggest energy producer, the higher oil prices will put the government in a difficult spot when it comes to consumer fuel prices, as Nigeria’s delipidated refining sector makes the country — despite its high oil production — dependent on refined product imports. In Nigeria, rising gas prices are a major political issue and, if unabated, will cause nationwide strikes and unrest. Rising prices compounded with high inflation will also lead to mass civil unrest elsewhere in sub-Saharan Africa, and in some cases, violent government crackdowns on protests.

Meanwhile, consumers across sub-Saharan Africa are suffering from high food, water, gas and other commodity prices. In Kenya, fuel prices increased 6% overnight earlier this month after the government was forced to halt fuel subsidies. In East Africa, particularly, high prices are exacerbated by an ongoing drought, raising the cost of living for many regional citizens beyond reach. It’s a similar story in South Africa, where rising fuel prices are driving up consumer prices, which are nearly 20% higher than they were this time last year.


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Climate Change is an EASILY SOLVED problem, Washington Examiner, (Nuclear)
« Reply #817 on: October 08, 2021, 11:43:04 AM »
Lead editorial (Sept 20), Washington Examiner, famous people caught reading the forum:

"All Climate treaties are a joke"
"convert all or nearly all of the grid to nuclear power. No other method has ever worked or come close."

"Begin a long-term project to convert all or nearly all of the grid to nuclear power. No other method has ever worked or come close. (Well, except maybe in Gambia.)

Natural gas, including the new technology of zero-emission natural gas, is still helping the U.S. reduce its emissions. It is a cheap and useful fuel, and it will be the best bridge to nuclear, perhaps along with certain economically useful carbon capture technologies. Nuclear (fission) can, in turn, become the bridge to fusion, which will come online in a demonstration capacity at MIT within five years and should be everywhere within 30 years. Fusion has all of nuclear's advantages, but without any of the danger or radioactive waste. Because the products of fusion cannot be weaponized as with nuclear fission, it is a technology the U.S. and its allies can share even with enemies such as China, Russia, and Iran.

That's the answer to carbon emissions — everything else is already a proven waste of time. Those who reject nuclear, including most of the American Left, are not serious about the issue and should not be included in any conversation about the climate. They are just looking for new ways to hinder the economic growth that limitless energy will give humanity and new excuses to "tax the rich."

Given that effective and economically feasible options already exist for solving climate change, Biden should immediately abandon expensive pie-in-the-sky Green New Deal projects — and also stop signing silly treaties that let China pollute as much as it likes.



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Re: Energy Politics & Science
« Reply #818 on: October 13, 2021, 05:53:33 AM »
"Unless you are for nuclear power everywhere, you aren't green"  - Hugh Hewitt today, in response to Prince Charles running his car on wine and cheese byproducts, bio fuel that requires farmland and deforestation to produce en masse.

Famous people caught reading the forum.

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Re: Energy Politics & Science
« Reply #819 on: October 13, 2021, 08:54:03 AM »
Nicely assertive articulation there by HH!  I think I will be using it.

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Nat Gas and Russian Fertilizer
« Reply #823 on: December 21, 2021, 05:45:20 AM »
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Russia’s Fertilizer Diplomacy

Runaway gas prices are hurting fertilizer production – and opening up opportunities for Moscow.
By: Ekaterina Zolotova

Already volatile natural gas prices went through the roof in Europe last week after the chief of Germany’s energy regulator said the Russia-to-Germany gas pipeline known as Nord Stream 2 would not begin operating until at least the second half of 2022. The news pushed European gas prices above $1,700 per thousand cubic meters for the first time in two months. Businesses and households, already getting squeezed by high inflation and entering the winter months, are on edge. What’s more, soaring gas prices also disrupt other activities like the production of nitrogen fertilizers, which are derived from natural gas and whose cost to produce is becoming prohibitively expensive because of the gas price surge. The gas crunch, the emergence of new coronavirus variants and governments’ turn toward protectionist measures to stabilize domestic food prices mean that the fertilizer industry will remain unstable for at least the first few months of 2022. This is bad news for much of the world, but not for Russia, with its large gas reserves and sizable fertilizer production capacity.

The Kremlin’s energy diplomacy – using its wealth of natural gas supplies to influence other governments, mostly in Europe – is infamous. Get ready for Russian fertilizer diplomacy.

Enough to Go Around

While other countries scramble to prevent a shortage of fertilizers, which would hurt agricultural production and could lead to food shortages, Russia is producing more fertilizers than it needs. The country is responsible for 13 percent of global fertilizer supplies. With its enormous supply of raw materials, Russia produces each of the three main types of fertilizers: nitrogen, phosphorus and potash. It uses its natural gas and coal to produce nitrogen fertilizers; mineral phosphates go into making phosphorus fertilizers; and potassium fertilizers come from rare potassium-rich salts. Nitrogen fertilizers are about 40 percent of total Russian fertilizer production, followed by potash (35 percent) and phosphorous (15 percent).

Russia’s output of mineral fertilizers has been growing for the past two decades, even during the pandemic. In 2020, Russian production of mineral fertilizers grew faster than the world average (5 percent versus the global rate of 2 percent), to 54.8 million tons. Even at current energy prices, its production costs are relatively low, and even the introduction of new green standards in Europe isn’t a significant hindrance. Russia exports more than two-thirds of its fertilizer output, with sales going to more than 90 countries.

Russian Fertilizer Exports
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Russia’s fertilizer production is directed at the global market because of the limited profit opportunities on the domestic market. Russian agriculture as a whole (not just wheat production, which we’ve covered) is in a much better state today than it was in the 1990s and early 2000s, but growth opportunities at home are still limited. Russian consumption of fertilizers is rising – the share of mineral fertilizers that Russia exported fell to 68 percent of production from 75 percent between 2015 and 2020 – but it’s still growing very modestly.

In addition, Russian farmers are using less fertilizer than before relative to total farmland. Just before the collapse of the Soviet Union, 88 kilograms of fertilizer were used per hectare, compared with 69 kilograms per hectare today.

Russian Fertilizer Usage
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It’s no surprise that profit-motivated Russian manufacturers would choose to prioritize the foreign market, where profit opportunities are better. There are several reasons for this, but the main reason is the poor quality of Russian croplands. Huge swaths of Russia’s croplands are depleted, soils are overcompacted due to overuse of heavy equipment, and pesticides have killed off naturally beneficial microbiota. The fertile chernozem zone through the Russian steppes is characterized by acidified soils, where mineral fertilizers are less effective. Without deoxidizing the soil, it may be difficult to make additional profit.

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Even though Russia’s fertilizer industry is export-oriented, the Kremlin underlined the sector’s geopolitical significance last month when it introduced export quotas for six months beginning Dec. 1. Moscow justified the decision by pointing to higher prices abroad as a result of a sharp rise in gas prices. But given the limited size of the Russian market, the massive scale of Russia’s fertilizer output and the fundamental problems in the country’s agricultural sector, there is reason to doubt the official account. What’s more, when Russian President Vladimir Putin visited India earlier this month, he discussed an agreement between Russia’s PhosAgro and Indian public sector enterprises regarding the supply of fertilizers in 2021 and 2022, in spite of his own government’s export restrictions.

The Kremlin’s logic is simple: The more strained the global fertilizer market is, the more leverage Russia has. For example, when production of nitrogen and phosphate fertilizers – which are seriously exposed to volatility and seasonal factors – is depressed, Russia can cash in on booming sales and new contracts in the potash market, where there are fewer suppliers and where long-term contracts prevail, providing more stable prices. Russia already exported more than 10 million tons of potash fertilizers in the first 10 months of 2021, a 28 percent increase over the same period last year.

Moreover, Russia expects that it can exploit uncertainty to increase its share of the global market. The European market is especially interesting for Moscow, but there are also opportunities in Asia, Africa and Latin America, which, led by Brazil, remains the top foreign destination for Russian fertilizers. Russia hopes that offering reliable supplies will enhance dialogue with certain countries with which Moscow is interested in cooperating. For instance, Putin has long pointed to India as a strategic partner with a large market. Africa is another important region where Russia is testing the waters. And potential contracts with Europe could give Russia new leverage in difficult ongoing strategic negotiations. The timing is especially propitious for Russia because new European eco-labeling rules for mineral fertilizers, as well as pandemic-induced delays in commissioning several fertilizer production facilities in other countries, have restricted the number of competitors on the fertilizer market.

It’s becoming clear that Russia stockpiled fertilizers not to drive up prices or supply its own farmers, but to pressure partners, especially in Europe, to pay attention to Russia and offer dialogue in hopes of winning lucrative contracts. However, it’s difficult to imagine that the current situation in the fertilizer market will solve Russia’s most significant problems. Western sanctions aren’t going away, and certification of Nord Stream 2 looks a long way off. Russia’s fertilizer diplomacy also won’t resolve the difficulties in its domestic agricultural market. But Russia will try anyway.



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« Reply #826 on: January 09, 2022, 06:34:22 AM »
Plenty of interesting discussion here.

This caught my attention:  40% of Euro nat gas comes from Russia?  That's a rather substantial number , , ,

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The New Year has not begun on the happiest of notes with Omicron stalking the land, the Fed upsetting the markets, an “interesting” jobs report, and the latest inflation numbers on the horizon (I suspect that we are not in for a nice surprise).

Then there’s Europe’s energy crunch. It hasn’t gone away.

CNBC:

Europe is facing continued volatility in its wholesale gas markets, prompting concerns across the region that an energy crisis could be about to get even worse.

The front-month gas price at the Dutch TTF hub, a European benchmark for natural gas trading, was around 5% higher by 1 p.m. London time on Wednesday, with the price reaching 93.3 euros per megawatt-hour. Contracts for March and April delivery were also up by 5% on Wednesday, according to New York’s Intercontinental Exchange . . .

Ole Hansen, head of commodity strategy at Saxo Bank, told CNBC in an email that gas prices in the EU and the U.K. remained at the mercy of the weather, the pace of shipments, and Russia.

“Into January, the price of gas has resumed its ascent, again with the prospect of colder weather driving increased demand for heating and very, very low supplies from Russia, especially via two important pipelines through Poland and Ukraine,” Hansen added. “Whether Russia is deliberately keeping supplies down due to Nord Stream 2 pipeline approval delays and the Ukraine border crisis is difficult to say. But it highlights failed energy and storage policies in Europe and the U.K., which has left the region very dependent on imports of gas, especially given the still unreliable level of power generation from renewable sources.”

To put a number on that, over 40 percent of Europe’s natural gas is currently supplied by Russia.

What could possibly go wrong?

On the topic of Russia, I suspect that Moscow’s intervention this week in Kazakhstan in the wake of the turmoil in that country (disturbances triggered, incidentally, by a sharp rise in fuel prices, although there were deeper underlying causes) may well reduce the chance that Russia will broaden its existing military operations in Ukraine for now. Although that doesn’t mean that it will neglect opportunities to toy with Europe’s gas supplies in order to “encourage” the granting of the final approvals needed for the Nord Stream 2 pipeline (a second northern route for the delivery of Russian gas to Europe) to open up for business, and, more generally, to show who is already, to an alarming extent, boss.

To repeat something that I have mentioned before, the reason for the current price spike in Europe does not (with the exception of the U.K. and, arguably, Germany) owe much to its climate policies, but it is a reminder that much of the continent’s energy supplies are less secure than had, until recently, been assumed. The “race to net zero” may, partly, be the product of panic, but it also owes a great deal to complacency. If there is anything good to come out of Europe’s current energy woes, it is that they may act as a useful reminder that the current trajectory of its climate-driven energy policy is an invitation to disaster. We simply are not yet at a stage where renewables can fill the gap opened up by the abandonment of fossil fuels. And it’s not easy to forecast when we will be. Fixing dates for hitting net zero is all very well, but one thing we should have learned after the 20th century is that when central planners ignore reality, disaster will follow.

And in this case, one uncomfortable reality is that both wind and solar are dogged by a range of problems caused by intermittency, the unalterable fact that the wind doesn’t always blow, and the sun doesn’t always shine. Moreover, the hours that the wind and the sun do what they are supposed to do are not entirely predictable: One cause of the U.K.’s energy problems this fall was that North Sea winds just didn’t do what was expected of them, a failure that extended over a fairly lengthy period of time.

Some have argued that the current difficulties are an argument for investing more in renewables, an argument based on the idea that this would reduce dependence on other energy sources. To an extent that’s obviously true, but it still doesn’t address the issue of intermittency. If the wind is not blowing, it doesn’t matter how many wind turbines have been installed. Rather than pouring more billions into the installation of a technology that is not yet ready for prime time (I suspect that this is much more the case for wind than for solar), it would be better to increase funding for research designed to find a way to work around intermittency. It would cost less and would be a far better use of resources.

Meanwhile, from Bloomberg:

The energy crisis roiling markets in Europe is a preview of what the U.S. will face over the next 10 years as it shifts to cleaner power sources, according to Ed Morse, Citigroup’s global head of commodities research.

“We are in the first crisis of the energy transition,” Morse said in an interview on Bloomberg Television. Switching away from fossil fuels is an “event that is going to be disruptive, dislodging and it’s going to create disharmony at home and internationally — and it is also going to make superb advances.”

We’ll have to see about the second half of that last sentence. Assuming the Biden administration continues on its current course, the rest of the excerpt will, I suspect, prove all too true, even if Morse puts it too gently. To be sure, the transition will be “disruptive” and “dislodging,” but those adjectives and the word “disharmony” may understate the extent of the economic, social, and geopolitical havoc to come if the present direction of climate policy is maintained.

Over at the Wall Street Journal, Bjorn Lomborg crunches some numbers:

Energy prices are soaring, and it’s likely a sign of things to come. The rise can be blamed on a variety of things, including the demand rebound after the lockdowns ended, a drop in renewable electricity output from a lack of wind in Europe during most of 2021, and increasingly costly climate policies. But while the pandemic will end and the wind will blow again, climate policies to achieve “net zero” emissions will keep hiking prices.

Barack Obama acknowledged in 2008 that electricity prices “would necessarily skyrocket” under his proposed climate policies. He was more candid than many of today’s politicians and advocates. Limiting the use of fossil fuels requires making them more expensive and pushing people toward green alternatives that remain pricier and less efficient . . .

Costs will continue to rise if politicians remain bent on achieving net-zero emissions globally. Bank of America finds that achieving net zero globally by 2050 will cost $150 trillion over 30 years—almost twice the combined annual gross domestic product of every country on earth. The annual cost ($5 trillion) is more than all the world’s governments and households spend every year on education. Academic studies find the policy is even costlier. The largest database on climate scenarios shows that keeping temperature rises to 2 degrees Celsius—a less stringent policy than net zero by midcentury—would likely cost $8.3 trillion, or 3.3% of world GDP, every year by 2050, and the costs keep escalating so that by the end of the century taxpayers will have paid about $1 quadrillion—a thousand trillion—in total.

I should mention that that estimate is based on the notion that “climate policy costs will be spread efficiently,” something Lomborg rightly concedes is a “heroic assumption” (a key part of his definition of “efficiently” is that “big emitters China and India” cut the most), meaning that more-conservative estimates of the real cost would likely be far higher.

A quadrillion here, a quadrillion there, and pretty soon you’re talking real money.

Lomborg later turns his attention to the U.S.:

For the U.S., one recent study in Nature found reducing emissions only 80% by 2050 will cost more than $2.1 trillion in today’s money annually by midcentury. That is more than $5,000 per American a year. The cost of achieving 100% reductions would be far higher. And this study assumes reductions will be carried out in the most efficient way possible—namely using a single national, steadily increasing carbon tax—but that’s unlikely, and with less-than-ideal policies, the price would be still higher.

Climate activists may not want to acknowledge these costs, but voters will force them to eventually . . .

But will they? As I have discussed on numerous occasions, the name of the climate game has been to remove as much climate policy from the political process as possible, whether by effectively delegating it to regulators in both the public (for example, the Fed, the SEC) or private sectors (accountancy rule makers, for instance) or, indeed, to the unsavory corporatists now setting the agenda on Wall Street and in the C-suite. Nevertheless, sooner or later the costs of the current approach to climate policy are going to become all too evident. If there’s any silver lining to be found in today’s very dark cloud, it is that this energy crunch will increase the chances that enough voters will understand what is coming before it is too late. If that, in due course, also prompts questions about the priorities of today’s climate policy, so much the better.

Where money should be spent, other than on intermittency workarounds, is on energy research, on nuclear power, on limiting the carbon emissions created by existing fossil-fuel resources (ask yourself whether that is more likely to take place in the West or in the OPEC countries or in Russia) and, of course, resilience. To take one example, a (job-intensive) policy of toughening up the flood defenses of low-lying coastal cities ought to appeal to many voters, wherever they stand on climate change. The same can be said of burying power lines in densely populated areas of the U.S.

Here and there, there are hints that an awareness that the current approach is not, to use a possibly unfortunate adjective, economically (and perhaps even politically) sustainable, is sinking in, even in Brussels. The EU Commission has proposed classifying some (there are some fairly stringent restrictions) nuclear and (natural) gas projects as sustainable for the purposes of the EU’s green “taxonomy,” a recognition, in the latter case, of the value of natural gas as a “bridge” fuel between now and a more thoroughly decarbonized future.

The Economist went into more detail on the taxonomy here.

An extract:

The idea emerged after the 2015 Paris climate deal, when the EU’s effort to craft a common green-bond standard for corporate and sovereign issuers revealed that members did not agree on what counted as green. Some countries have since worked on their own classifications, but Europe’s, which maps swathes of the economy over 550 pages, is the most comprehensive.

The taxonomy hopes to end the practice of greenwashing and boost investors’ faith in sustainable assets. It will offer a common set of criteria that investors and banks can use to screen potential investments. Most money managers already have their own teams and tools to measure greenery. But the lack of a shared benchmark means scorecards remain subjective and inconsistent across the industry, which confuses investors. Having a dictionary where they can look up whether an investment can be labelled green puts everyone on the same page . . .

The Commission’s proposal has attracted heavy criticism from, inevitably, Greens (many of whom not only harbor an ancient hatred for nuclear energy but also regard any recognition that natural gas can play a role in an energy transition as succumbing to the wicked allure of fossil fuels). The question of nuclear energy has also highlighted a rift within the EU.

Politico:

Countries like France and Poland have been pushing strongly for the inclusion of nuclear energy in the taxonomy list as they argue that it is a crucial low-carbon technology which is needed to provide energy security while the EU transitions to renewable energies in the coming decades.

Alongside Germany, other countries like Austria or Luxembourg fiercely oppose such a move amid concerns about nuclear accidents and waste. They would like to see nuclear energy disappear from the EU instead of encouraging the construction of new plants through the green labeling . . .

The proposal must win sufficient support from EU member states (which seems likely: It would take a “reverse reinforced qualified majority” to vote it down) and then the approval of the EU Parliament. To repeat a guess prediction that I made the other day, I think it will go through, a view bolstered by a report that Germany will, when it comes to a vote, abstain — a non-decision reflecting divisions in an unlikely governing coalition made up of the left-of-center SPD, the Green party and the free-market FDP. The FDP and SPD are in favor of the inclusion of gas, the Greens not so much.

That said, all three parties continue to favor phasing out nuclear power. At year end, three out of Germany’s six remaining reactors were switched off. The last three will have gone out of operation by the end of this year. Yes, this is nuts.

On the other hand, as Robert Zubrin reported for Capital Matters in December:

While a year ago French president Emmanuel Macron was calling for cutting the nuclear fraction of France’s electric power from its current 75 percent down to 50 percent (thereby eliminating the world’s only actually decarbonized major electric-power grid), on November 9 he called for “relaunching construction of nuclear reactors in our country . . . to guarantee France’s energy independence, to guarantee our country’s electricity supply and achieve our objectives, in particular carbon neutrality in 2050.”

And:

U.S. energy secretary Jennifer Granholm began her tenure ten months ago by announcing the Biden’s administration’s commitment to strangling the nuclear industry by blocking the establishment of a waste repository. But at the COP26 conference last month, she was all in for nuclear power: “We are very bullish on these advanced nuclear reactors,” Granholm said. “We have, in fact, invested a lot of money in the research and development of those. We are very supportive of that.”

It may be noted that Granholm was voicing support for types of reactors that do not yet exist.

But, it’s a start, I suppose.

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Biden's Berlin Gas Airlift
« Reply #827 on: January 27, 2022, 06:11:09 AM »
Biden’s Berlin Gas Airlift
The West’s energy disarmament is a gift to Putin on Ukraine.
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Energy is Russia’s most potent nonnuclear weapon, so it’s no surprise that Vladimir Putin is leveraging it as he threatens Ukraine. Europe’s climate obsessions have made it vulnerable to Russia, and so the Biden Administration is riding to the rescue by begging the Arabs and other energy producers to boost natural gas deliveries.

Russia typically supplies about 40% of Europe’s gas imports, but it has sharply truncated deliveries. Kremlin officials are threatening to cut off supply if the U.S. and Europe impose sanctions in response. Germany is especially dependent on Russian gas, which is why it has been reluctant to help arm Ukraine.

A Russian gas embargo could starve households of heating fuel this winter and potentially next if there’s a hot war in Ukraine. Gas might have to be rationed. Manufacturers could be forced to shut down, further damaging the economy and supply chains. At this perilous moment, it’s worth recounting how Europe got itself into this cold mess.

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Start with government bans on hydraulic shale fracturing. Europe’s gas reserves are smaller than Russia’s, though it has about as much technically recoverable shale gas as the U.S., according to the Energy Information Administration. Yet European governments won’t let this strategic asset be developed.


Mr. Putin has helped fuel the green opposition. As former NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen said in 2014, Russia “engages actively” with green groups “working against shale gas, obviously to maintain European dependence on imported Russian gas.”


Germany has made itself even more dependent on Russian gas by shutting down nuclear plants, which provide low-cost baseload power. Even as Russia reduced gas deliveries, Germany in December shut down three nuclear plants, and three more will be mothballed this year. This is the definition of self-sabotage.

The Trump Administration pressed Germany to build liquefied natural gas (LNG) import terminals to diversify its gas supply, as Poland, the Netherlands and Lithuania have done. But German LNG terminals are snarled in permitting delays. One company last year decided to turn an LNG project into a green hydrogen hub. This won’t heat homes.

Across most of Europe, coal plant shutdowns have also left Europe more dependent on gas. So have heavily subsidized solar and wind, which must be backed up by gas. As wind production lagged last summer and fall, gas demand and prices soared.

As a result, Europe entered the winter with little gas in storage. Russia exploited this by slowing gas deliveries. While rising gas prices send a market signal for power retailers to use more coal, Europe’s cap-and-trade program discourages this switch even when gas prices are surging.

All of this explains why the Biden Administration is now scrambling to locate spare gas to rescue Europe from Mr. Putin’s tender mercies. U.S. LNG exports are nearly maxed out, and many cargo ships are already headed to Europe. More U.S. LNG export capacity is expected to come online later this year, which will make America the world’s top LNG exporter.

Other major LNG producers such as Qatar and Australia may be able to boost supply to Europe at the margins. But Europe could still be staring into a long, dark winter if Russia imposes a gas blockade. It’s hard not to wonder how European leaders didn’t see this coming in 2014 when Mr. Putin invaded Crimea.

The self-created energy vulnerability of the West is one of the horrifying marvels of the age. You have to go back to the disarmament of the 1920s to recall a time of such willful self-delusion. Even as President Biden races to rescue Europe, his Build Back Better plan would send the U.S. down the same road of energy disarmament.

White House officials say Russia and Europe are interdependent since the Kremlin relies on oil and gas revenue to fund its budget. But Russia has other energy clients, including China. Gazprom is building gas pipelines to China. Even as Europe becomes more dependent on Russia for gas, Russia is becoming less dependent on Europe for revenue.

At the same time, the White House is making the U.S. more dependent on China for the minerals needed to advance its green energy agenda. On Wednesday, the Administration canceled Twin Metals Minnesota’s rights to mine copper, nickel and cobalt in northeast Minnesota. Green groups are pushing to scotch lithium mining in Nevada.

One predictable result will be shortages and higher prices. Doesn’t President Biden understand that inflation and high energy prices empower the very dictators he claims we are fighting in a long, twilight struggle?

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Nuclear power and nat gas secure EU backing as green investments
« Reply #828 on: February 02, 2022, 07:01:57 AM »


Nuclear Power, Natural Gas Secure EU Backing as ‘Green’ Investments
Proposal to expand what can qualify as sustainable investment sparked outcry from some member states, investors

The European Commission is to label energy from nuclear power and natural gas as ‘green’ investments, in the face of fierce opposition.
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BRUSSELS—Brushing aside charges of greenwashing, the European Union will press ahead with a controversial proposal to label certain nuclear energy and natural-gas investments as sustainable over the coming years despite strong opposition from some of the bloc’s member states, environmental groups and investors.

The proposal to expand what can qualify as a sustainable source of energy has exposed deep rifts between countries that rely on different technologies and comes amid surging electricity prices. Nuclear and natural gas are just two high-profile components of a plan that will affect a range of industries—from forestry to manufacturing and transportation—and is meant to shift the ways companies and investment funds approach sustainable investment.

The European Commission, the EU’s executive arm, published a revised version of its proposal on Wednesday, which includes tweaks to the criteria for labeling nuclear and natural gas as sustainable and changes that are meant to strengthen companies’ disclosure requirements.

“Today is a means to an end,” EU Financial Services Commissioner Mairead McGuinness said in a press conference announcing the plan. She said the proposal that lays out conditions for including nuclear and natural gas as sustainable investments “may be imperfect but it is a real solution. It moves us further towards our ultimate goal of carbon neutrality.”

The proposal, which was first released on New Year’s Eve, is part of the EU’s “green taxonomy,” a detailed breakdown of what regulators believe should count as a sustainable investment. The goal is to funnel more capital into projects and activities that have been vetted for their sustainability and avoid greenwashing, where companies exaggerate their sustainability credentials.

“People need a benchmark, to say ‘I can hang my hat on something,’ and I think that’s where the taxonomy comes in,” said Shashank Krishna, a partner at law firm Baker Botts who specializes in sustainable energy investments. “Depending on how this whole debate on gas and nuclear plays out, this might actually become, by default, the global benchmark.”


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The proposal adopted by the European Commission on Wednesday stands a good chance of becoming law. Member countries and the European Parliament have up to six months to review the plan, during which time they could vote against it, but the threshold for blocking it is high. Austria and Luxembourg have also recently threatened to sue the commission if the plan were adopted in its draft form. Whether such a suit will proceed is unclear.

Bas Eickhout, a Green member of the European Parliament from the Netherlands, said the plan to include nuclear and natural gas in the taxonomy is “tantamount to greenwashing” and undermines the EU’s credibility in addressing climate change. The proposed conditions for including those energy sources are too weak, he said, and don’t do enough to address concerns about the safe storage of nuclear waste.

The EU framework doesn’t directly affect energy investments overall, just whether they can be labeled as “green.” Individual countries can continue to make their own decisions about the sources of energy they use. Still, climate activists and some investors say that if nuclear power and natural gas projects are designated as potentially environmentally friendly, such projects could draw funding away from less-harmful investments in sustainable renewables.

The inclusion of nuclear and natural gas was challenged by environmentalists and some investors, who warned the decision risked undermining the taxonomy’s integrity and usefulness. The Platform on Sustainable Finance, an advisory group to the Commission, said last month that the plan proposed by the European Commission on Dec. 31 was “unsuitable for financial markets.”

The Institutional Investors Group on Climate Change, whose members manage about €50 trillion in assets, or the equivalent of about $56 trillion, last month called for natural gas to be removed from the sustainable investment list. It said the current criteria “hinders the capacity of our members to align their portfolios with net zero” carbon emissions and undermines the purpose of the taxonomy.

Some critics warn the inclusion of gas and nuclear could undermine the taxonomy’s authoritativeness if some EU member countries and investors choose not to accept its designations. European Investment Bank President Werner Hoyer suggested last week that the bank, an EU institution, might not make use of the green label for nuclear and natural gas.

Some portfolio managers for sustainable funds said they, too, might hold off on using aspects of the taxonomy, given the political debate.

“We want to make sure that whatever they come up with is agreed upon by multiple parties and therefore likely to stand for a long time, because these are long-term investments we need to make,” said Matt Breidert, a senior portfolio manager at sustainable-investment firm Ecofin, which has about $2 billion assets under management.

Including nuclear and natural-gas investments in the taxonomy might make financing those projects a little cheaper, said Georg Zachmann, a senior fellow with Brussels-based think tank Bruegel. But even if those projects were excluded, that wouldn’t stop them from being built or running. One broader impact, he said, is that the controversy over categorizing nuclear as a green investment could give investors a better sense of where public opinion lies.

The debate happening now “will reveal more clearly what the preferences of the European population are on certain technologies, and that will guide investors to understanding what they can put their money on and what might risk a backlash in the future,” Mr. Zachmann said.

Write to Kim Mackrael at kim.mackrael@wsj.com and Daniel Michaels at daniel.michaels@wsj.com

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« Reply #829 on: February 03, 2022, 06:59:33 AM »
A point mentioned (at least once) on the forum:

https://www.bloombergquint.com/opinion/nuclear-power-is-essential-in-fighting-climate-change

Nuclear Power Is More Important Than Ever Bloomberg Editorial Board

From the article:
"After the disasters at Chernobyl in 1986 and Fukushima in 2011, turning away from nuclear power seemed prudent. Now it looks like a serious error"
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Chernobyl was a Soviet failure and at Fukushima, the diesel generators failed.

You can't be serious about lowering CO2 emissions with the technologies available today and not go big on nuclear.  Elon Musk says we need to double the capacity of the grid in order to put transportation on it.  Do that (at night) with what?  Batteries?  Coal??

It takes 10-12 years to build new nuclear power plants.  Let's.Get.Started.
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FERC vs. Natural Gas and Putin wins
« Reply #830 on: February 20, 2022, 12:26:45 AM »
Biden’s Regulators Empower Putin
FERC sets rules that will block new U.S. natural gas pipelines.
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We live in strange and contradictory times. President Biden is trying mightily to deter a Russian invasion in Ukraine at the same time his regulators are working to give Vladimir Putin more leverage over global energy supplies. Obsessive climate politics gets more self-destructive by the week.


In an act of bizarre timing, the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (FERC) on Thursday revised its policy for approving natural gas pipelines and export terminals. FERC by law must vouch that projects are in the public interest and won’t have a significant environmental impact. But now the agency plans to include greenhouse gas emissions in this analysis. The vote was 3-2, with two Republican commissioners dissenting.

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Here’s the kicker: The pipeline analysis may include emissions from upstream production and downstream consumption even though there’s no reliable way to measure either one. You can bet that regulators beholden to climate activists will assert that every new pipeline will massively increase emissions even though more pipelines are needed to transport natural gas to back up unreliable renewables, especially as nuclear and coal plants shut down. It won’t matter if the piped gas is replacing dirtier coal or helping to keep the lights on.

Climate activists are disappointed because FERC says it doesn’t plan to consider the downstream emissions of LNG facilities, which is the Energy Department’s purview. But FERC also knows U.S. LNG exports will have no impact on downstream emissions. If the U.S. exports less LNG, Europe and Asia will simply buy more gas from Russia or Qatar.


LNG export facilities depend on pipelines to supply them with gas. By blocking pipelines, FERC will effectively block more LNG export projects. The U.S. has seven LNG export terminals and will become the world’s largest exporter this year with the completion of a new facility. Yet many LNG projects are stalled because of pipeline constraints.

The Marcellus and Utica shale deposits in Appalachia contain enormous amounts of natural gas that could be exported to Europe. But almost all approved and proposed LNG export terminals are located on the Gulf Coast because Democratic states and greens have blocked pipelines in the Northeast. Without pipelines, U.S. gas is stuck in the ground.

Mr. Biden’s decision to kill the Keystone XL pipeline destroyed thousands of jobs and damaged Canada-U.S. relations. But oil from Alberta and North Dakota’s Bakken shale can still be transported by rail, truck and existing north-south pipelines whose flows have been reversed.

Pipeline constraints are suppressing production and prices in Appalachia in particular. Prices for Appalachian gas are some 15% lower than on the Gulf Coast. At the same time, spot prices for LNG shipments to Europe this winter were about 10 times more than what gas in the U.S was fetching. LNG is an enormous economic opportunity that FERC is throwing away.

This is probably why Sen. Joe Manchin came out so strongly against FERC on Thursday. “Today’s reckless decision by FERC’S Democratic Commissioners puts the security of our nation at risk,” the West Virginia Democrat said. “The Commission went too far by prioritizing a political agenda over their main mission—ensuring our nation’s energy reliability and security.”

“The only thing they accomplished today was constructing additional road blocks that further delay building out the energy infrastructure our country desperately needs. Energy independence is our greatest geopolitical and economic tool and we cannot lose sight of that as instability rises around the globe.”

He’s right on every point. FERC is diminishing U.S. geopolitical leverage against a revanchist Russia, which supplies about 40% of European gas imports. Russia is rapidly building pipelines and LNG export terminals to make Asia as dependent on its gas as Europe is so it can extort U.S. allies. Moscow is already using gas exports to pressure Japan not to join Western sanctions if it invades Ukraine.

Rest assured, Mr. Putin’s apparatchiks won’t be analyzing gas-project emissions. The climate obsessions of the left have already raised energy costs for hundreds of millions of Americans and are making the electric grid less reliable. Now they are actively aiding and abetting a dictator who may launch the biggest war in Europe since World War II.

Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen and Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm ought to be screaming at FERC to cease its political war on U.S. gas. But they are either MIA or believe that harming U.S. security to indulge climate virtue-signaling is good policy. FERC may nominally be an independent agency, but its new pipeline obstruction is following Mr. Biden’s executive orders. The buck stops with him.

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Re: FERC vs. Natural Gas and Putin wins
« Reply #831 on: February 20, 2022, 05:54:42 AM »
They don't want us to heat our homes.

Greater economic freedom in Russia than in US under Biden.

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The Dream World of Green Energy - NJ
« Reply #832 on: February 21, 2022, 11:05:20 AM »
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2022/02/latest-from-the-dreamworld-of-green-energy.php

"a correction issued by the agency Tuesday said running electric boilers would cost between 4.2 and 4.9 times more than their fossil fuel equivalents."

Electric heat costs 5 times as much!

And do it how, with night solar??

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Under my plan, electricity prices will skyrocket - Barack Obama 2008
« Reply #833 on: February 23, 2022, 09:38:54 AM »
"Under my plan...  electricity prices will skyrocket"   - Barack Obama 2008

https://pjmedia.com/eddriscoll/2009/06/13/this-guy-is-good-really-good-and-frankly-so-far-were-not-n241277

Yes they will.  Yes they did.
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Ukraine did it.  Trump!


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Biden withdrew support of a Isreali NG pipeline to Europe.
« Reply #834 on: February 24, 2022, 03:13:36 AM »
Why Is Democratic Biden Rescuing Autocratic Erdoğan at the Expense of U.S. Allies?
by Burak Bekdil
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In early January... in a bolder, less expected and potentially damaging geostrategic move that angered all four of Turkey's Mediterranean rivals (Greece, Cyprus, Israel and Egypt), the Biden administration silently abandoned an eastern Mediterranean pipeline project (EastMed) that would carry Israeli gas through Cyprus to Europe.

"By undermining the project, the administration is undercutting three of our strongest allies in the region: Israel, Greece, and Cyprus, as well as the European Union's hopes for energy independence and economic prosperity." — Press release published on the congressional website of U.S. House Representative Gus Bilirakis, January 24, 2022.

"The Biden administration's actions in this matter are particularly objectionable and hypocritical in light of its tacit approval of Russia's Nord Stream pipeline, which will only deepen Europe's energy dependence on a volatile adversary." — Rep. Gus Bilirakis, January 24, 2022,

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Energy Politics, Europe v Russia, Who wins this war?
« Reply #835 on: February 24, 2022, 07:35:47 AM »
Medvedev:
German Chancellor Olaf Scholz has issued an order to halt the process of certifying the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline. Well. Welcome to the brave new world where Europeans are very soon going to pay €2.000 for 1.000 cubic meters of natural gas!

— Dmitry Medvedev (@MedvedevRussiaE) February 22, 2022
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Re: Energy Politics & Science
« Reply #838 on: March 03, 2022, 08:21:29 AM »
Does anyone remember the whining about oil companies getting subsidies [really just the right to deduct expenses from revenues]?

Now this:



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Laugh harder Krauts!
« Reply #840 on: March 07, 2022, 06:03:08 PM »
https://twitter.com/MAGAJew2/status/1500309926861758467

I hope you can laugh hard enough to keep warm.

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« Reply #841 on: March 08, 2022, 07:52:46 AM »
https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/ukraine-russia-putin-news-03-08-22/h_80c41dda8cf19a524b760f9380015787

not one peep from leftist MSM about how their people (DEMS) caused this ...... :x

climate does NOT take precedence over all else!

I don't want to drive an electric piece of crap  :roll:




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Electric car guru: We need more fossil fuels immediately!
« Reply #842 on: March 11, 2022, 11:29:20 AM »
we need to increase oil & gas output immediately." Elon Musk

https://www.inc.com/minda-zetlin/elon-musk-tweet-oil-gas-nuclear-ukraine-war.html

Elon Musk  @elonmusk  Mar 4, 2022
Hate to say it, but we need to increase oil & gas output immediately.
Extraordinary times demand extraordinary measures.

Elon Musk  @elonmusk
Obviously, this would negatively affect Tesla, but sustainable energy solutions simply cannot react instantaneously to make up for Russian oil & gas exports.
4:48 PM · Mar 4, 2022

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Analysts attribute this view by Elon Musk as common sense.  It is, but also:
 - We need fossil fuels to power the grid, or Tesla owners will need fossil fuel powered tow trucks ot get home.
 - A bankrupt nation will not buy many electric cars.

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Re: Energy Politics & Science
« Reply #843 on: March 13, 2022, 01:08:35 AM »
I don't remember where, but recently I saw a graph of US oil production. 

IIRC it showed production of 13M barrels per day when Biden took office, then dropping sharply to 10, and working its way back to 11.

Whether I am remembering correctly or not, could someone come up with a graph chart showing our oil production levels in recent years, including the year of Bidene?

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« Reply #844 on: March 13, 2022, 03:06:32 AM »
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Kim Strassel is a quality writer at the WSJ but I confess to being confused here, by both her analysis and indeed by the whole sanctioning Russian oil idea.  Oil and NG are fungible, yes?  So what is the effect upon Russia and upon America if only we sanction Russian energy?

Friday-afternoon news dumps are always revealing, and that includes last week’s Treasury Department clarification of U.S. sanctions on Russian banks. Don’t buy the Biden administration’s line that it’s pulling out the stops against Russia.

The president continues to insist he’s “enforcing the most significant package of economic sanctions in history” against Vladimir Putin’s regime. Some Biden loyalists are even veering toward hagiography. Connecticut’s Chris Murphy bragged last week on the Senate floor that Mr. Biden’s “stunning” diplomacy had produced “a sanctions package that is sweeping, that is unprecedented, that is breaking the back of the Russian economy.” The press nods along.

The reality is far different, which accounts for rising frustration in Congress—and growing divisions between even Democrats and the White House. The administration refused to impose sanctions in the lead-up to Mr. Putin’s invasion, naively trusting diplomacy. Yet even after Russian tanks rolled—and despite having months to prepare—the response has been slow, timid, hostage to feel-good “multilateralism” and unwilling to attack the real engine of the Russian economy: energy. Even the president’s own party is losing patience with his inadequate sanctions.

Consider that Treasury announcement. In late February Mr. Biden grandly announced sanctions targeting Russian banks. Yet on Friday, Treasury quietly clarified that the sanctions won’t apply to the banks’ energy transactions until June 24—meaning Wall Street can continue to trade in Russian oil and gas. “The energy sector of the Russian Federation economy itself is not subject to comprehensive sanctions,” explained Treasury’s website, a scandalous caveat the media largely ignored.


Sen. Rob Portman on Tuesday asked Undersecretary of State Victoria Nuland to justify the decision to give the Russian energy sector a pass for four months. She explained that working “multilaterally” remained the top priority, so “we did agree to a phase-in” at the behest of energy-dependent “European allies.”

Mr. Biden this week belatedly announced a ban on Russian oil and gas—but only because congressional Democrats and Republicans were uniting to pass legislation forcing his hand. Even Speaker Nancy Pelosi supported the ban and reportedly refused to agree to a White House demand to drop it. The Biden team scrambled to get ahead of Congress by announcing the embargo itself.

The White House has also demanded congressional Democrats stand down on a bipartisan bill that would suspend Russia’s preferential trading status with the U.S.—again, seemingly in order to discuss it to death with Europe. The good news is that lawmakers in both parties said late this week that they remain undeterred and may pass the trade restriction next week—potentially forcing Mr. Biden’s hand again.

The White House is nonetheless getting its way when it comes to blocking a Republican bill from Sen. Jim Risch that would impose real sanctions on Russia’s oil, gas, mining and mineral sectors. It targets oligarchs. It would create a lend-lease program to ensure Ukraine will continue to get necessary military resources. Crucially, it provides for “secondary sanctions” against global institutions that finance the Russian economy. As Mr. Risch notes, these secondary sanctions would “force the world’s financial institutions to make a choice between Russia and Western markets” and finally “isolate” the Russian economy.

The White House is resisting all this for the same reason it resisted the Russian oil embargo. Truly punishing sanctions against Russia’s energy sector are still anathema to Old Europe allies who want to continue importing Russian oil. The administration also fears that seriously targeting Russian energy would further drive up gasoline prices, hurting Mr. Biden domestically. Senate Foreign Relation Chairman Bob Menendez was, before the invasion, working with Mr. Risch on a bipartisan bill. At the behest of the White House, he went AWOL, and Democrats last week blocked a vote on the Risch legislation.

Republicans note that for all the talk of multilateralism, the U.S. is woefully trailing Europe in other areas. Since February the European Union has imposed sanctions on at least 12 oligarchs among the Navalny 35, a list of key Putin abetters compiled by dissident Alexei Navalny’s organization. The U.K. has targeted nine of them since February; the U.S., zero. Yes, Washington has targeted a handful of Putin cronies, but it’s only a sliver of the hundreds of oligarchs who hold Russia’s wealth. It did, however, announce a “task force” to investigate oligarch behavior. Twenty-two years into the Putin regime, the U.S. government doesn’t have that information?

The Biden team will argue that sanctions work best in conjunction with allies. No doubt. But the way to get the world to join in truly punishing and isolating Mr. Putin is to lead by example and to invite or shame allies into joining the fight. It’s not the current approach, which is to yammer in the halls of Foggy Bottom and settle for the path of least resistance. Mr. Biden can talk all he wants about his plans to cripple Mr. Putin’s economy. He has yet to take the steps that might actually do it.

Write to kim@wsj.com.

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« Reply #845 on: March 13, 2022, 08:04:17 AM »
I don't remember where, but recently I saw a graph of US oil production. 

IIRC it showed production of 13M barrels per day when Biden took office, then dropping sharply to 10, and working its way back to 11.

Whether I am remembering correctly or not, could someone come up with a graph chart showing our oil production levels in recent years, including the year of Bidene?

"The most recent data available from the Energy Information Administration (EIA) shows current U.S. oil production at ~11.6 million BPD — still 1.4 million BPD short of pre-pandemic production. This shortfall is a major factor that led to the run-up of oil and gasoline prices". - Forbes

Doug:  That shortfall is greater than the amount we buy from Russia.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2022/03/11/what-is-holding-back-us-oil-production/?sh=173d36c6b6f6

chart:
https://www.macrotrends.net/2562/us-crude-oil-production-historical-chart

https://images.app.goo.gl/ziYG9uAqgrvZoyog8
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« Reply #846 on: March 16, 2022, 02:44:59 AM »
Thank you Doug.
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Why U.S. Oil and Gas Producers Aren’t Solving the Energy Crisis
The crash of 2020 and the pressure of climate-change politics led them to reconsider their business models.
By Paul H. Tice
March 15, 2022 12:30 pm ET


On the back of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, crude oil prices jumped above $100 a barrel, and the average cost of U.S. gasoline has surpassed $4 a gallon. Yet domestic oil production has barely budged over the past two years and remains stuck below 12 million barrels a day, 10% to 15% below the pre-pandemic high.


The total U.S. oil rig count has bounced back, but only to roughly 75% of the recent peak in March 2020. Major U.S. shale producers, particularly ones in the Permian Basin of Texas, have a break-even oil price close to $30 a barrel, so why isn’t American supply responding to price signals from the global market?

First and foremost, U.S. shale got a wake-up call about its business model in 2020. That’s when the combination of an OPEC+ oil-market-share battle and pandemic lockdowns briefly turned crude oil prices negative and decimated the energy sector, driving more than 100 North American oil and gas companies into bankruptcy by year end.

After largely giving lip service to shareholder activists following the 2014 shale crash, almost every U.S. energy company has also embraced the need for capital spending restraint and generating free cash flow rather than simply expanding production. Flat or up slightly (5% or less) is the new production growth paradigm, and living within cash flow is paramount. This fiscal discipline held through 2021 even as crude oil prices doubled and continues to hold despite a roughly $30-a-barrel price jump since the beginning of 2022.


Last year energy rebounded from the annus horribilis of 2020 and became the best-performing sector in the U.S. equity and debt markets. Energy-company management teams don’t want to rock this boat, especially given regulatory clouds looming over the industry.

Feeding into the U.S. industry’s self-imposed choke valve on aggregate oil volumes is the outlook for restricted drilling growth and market access in coming years, which is where the Biden administration’s anti-fossil-fuel policies come into play.

U.S. oil and gas producers need to extend their drilling inventories and permit runways further into the future because the Biden White House is canceling or slow-walking leases on federal lands while clawing back acreage for national monuments. The administration also is taking advantage of environmental and endangered-species statutes to curtail drilling on private land. New energy infrastructure projects—including interstate pipelines and liquefied natural gas export facilities—are subject to a global climate test, a charge for the social cost of carbon and environmental-justice standards. All this will have a chilling effect on new projects and further reinforce industry consolidation.

The main risk to the industry over the next decade is not the potential for oil and gas demand to go down because of the global energy transition away from fossil fuels. It is the high likelihood of more energy supply-chain bottlenecks created by government officials. A supply-constrained scenario would be bullish for oil prices, giving producers even more incentive to keep hydrocarbon reserves in the ground now to produce them at higher realized prices down the road. As seen by the four legally paralyzed years of the Trump administration, even if Republicans regain the White House in 2024, not much would change with regard to the inexorable march toward 2030, the year of the climate rapture set by the United Nations.

U.S. energy companies have begun to wise up to the threat that the theory of man-made climate change poses to the industry. Since the Paris Agreement’s signing in 2015, the global goal of decreasing carbon emissions has provided moral justification for an all-out regulatory assault.

The latest front is the sustainable-investment movement sweeping Wall Street, which has climate action as its top environmental, social and governance objective. U.S. and European financial regulators are pushing through mandatory reporting standards on sustainability. This is the first step toward screening and excluding politically incorrect industries such as oil and gas from investment portfolios. As the intertwined climate-change and sustainability movements gain momentum between now and 2030, the lending and capital markets are likely to become more hostile toward traditional energy.

U.S. shale companies will need to ensure their ability to self-fund from operations and run with less balance-sheet debt to reduce their dependence on financing from the banking system and institutional investors. Consequently, corporate sustainability doctrine provides another strong argument for U.S. energy companies to maintain the status quo of slow to no production growth and to continue living within cash flow over the long term.

Ironically, all the defensive measures now being taken by the U.S. shale industry make it more attractive—and sustainable—from an investment perspective. On top of production and spending discipline and stronger energy commodity prices, some shale players are merging to build critical mass, both in operating scale and financial-market capitalization.

So why aren’t American oil and gas companies producing more barrels to help tamp down oil and gasoline prices during a global market shock when domestic inflation is rampant? The answer, as with everything that revolves around climate change, is complicated.

Mr. Tice works in investment management and is an adjunct professor of finance at New York University’s Stern School of Business.
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Heartless and senseless energy policies
« Reply #847 on: March 16, 2022, 09:37:29 AM »
Wood burning emits twice as much CO2 as a high efficiency natural gas furnace and is infinitely worse emitter of the other toxins, soot and filth. And far more dangerous, think of house fires and wildfires.

Who knew?

It is costing me close to $200/mo to heat EMPTY small homes - with the thermostat turned all the way down.  Just enough heat to prevent freeze up, not provide any comfort costs a fortune.

Strangely, it also feels like the coldest winter ever (like they had in Antarctica this past year).

As I talk to the non-rich (non-Democrats) struggling to fill their tanks and heat their homes in the north country, across the heartland and in the mountains , people tell me more and more about relying on wood burning stoves to keep their natural gas bills down.

IS THIS WHAT WE WANT?
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It is cruel for rich liberals like Stephen Colbert and Pete Buttigieg to tell us to just buy a subsidized Tesla and forget we don't have the money, there aren't enough of them available if we did, they still run on fossil fuels, the batteries rely on China, and WE STILL NEED TO HEAT OUR HOMES!!

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« Reply #848 on: March 16, 2022, 09:48:53 AM »
"It is cruel for rich liberals like Stephen Colbert and Pete Buttigieg to tell us to just buy a subsidized Tesla and forget we don't have the money, there aren't enough of them available if we did, they still run on fossil fuels, the batteries rely on China, and WE STILL NEED TO HEAT OUR HOMES!!"


little non elites like us ,
do not know what is best for the planet.
the little "folks " will need to sacrifice
so the elites  tell us  it is for their own good
it is a crises
we will all die

and the rest

while they all profit and are not affected ......

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Canada could replace supply ended from Russia
« Reply #849 on: March 16, 2022, 07:32:04 PM »
Canada could replace supply ended from Russia.

We would just need one thing to transport it in - the KEYSTONE XL PIPELINE.

https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/canada-says-its-oil-could-replace-us-imports-russian-crude-all-it-would-take-approval