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Re: CDC prescribing Ivermectin
« Reply #1258 on: September 05, 2021, 02:08:02 PM »
https://michaelyon.locals.com/upost/1033856/cdc-recommending-ivermectin-horse-medicine-for-brown-people

Please see below:

CDC recommends Ivermectin
« Reply #1249 on: September 03, 2021, 01:31:18 PM »
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Not for us, for our replacement populations.


https://www.cdc.gov/immigrantrefugeehealth/guidelines/overseas-guidelines.html

All Middle Eastern, Asian, North African, Latin American, and Caribbean refugees should receive presumptive therapy with:
Albendazole, single dose of 400 mg (200 mg for children 12-23 months)
AND
Ivermectin, two doses 200 mcg/Kg orally once a day for 2 days before departure to the United States.
All African refugees who did not originate from or reside in countries where Loa loa infection is endemic (Box 1) should receive presumptive therapy with:
Albendazole, single dose of 400 mg (200 mg for children 12-23 months)
AND
Ivermectin, two doses 200 mcg/Kg orally once a day for 2 days
AND
Praziquantel, 40 mg/kg, which may be divided in two doses before refugees depart for the United States.
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Covid Wuhan virus, China Lied, Top US Scientist reveals...
« Reply #1264 on: September 10, 2021, 07:26:00 AM »
THERE was your 15 days to stop the spread.  China knew of the outbreak and hid it.  Instead China kept up all it's international flights out of Wuhan, Hubei, a central China province with 6 times the population of London.  Even when they closed Wuhan to the rest of China they kept up the international flights - until Trump shut it down. They denied the outbreak and infected the world.  Note it was Taiwan who blew the whistle.  That makes me think of one consequence.  Recognize Taiwan and boot China from the world's organizations.  BTW, where are the jailed doctors now?  Is there not whistleblower protection in PLA PRC CCP China?  I heard from Thomas Friedman NYT, from the old neighborhood, that they have a better form of government.  Without checks and balances, they get things done better.  If infect the world is the goal, then they get things done better.
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9958207/amp/Scientist-reveals-heard-Covid-Wuhan-TWO-WEEKS-Beijing-warned-world.html?__twitter_impression=true

Top US scientist reveals he first heard about virus outbreak in Wuhan TWO WEEKS before Beijing warned the world about Covid

One of the world's top epidemiologists admits he first heard about the pandemic outbreak in Wuhan more than two weeks before it was disclosed to global health bodies.

The revelation by Ian Lipkin, a professor at Columbia University honoured by China for work on the first Sars epidemic earlier this century, undermines the official Beijing narrative on the origins.

Prof Lipkin told a documentary by the director Spike Lee that he learned of 'the new outbreak' on December 15, even repeating the date for clarification.

Yet China claims there were only five known patients before that time in Wuhan – a city of 11 million people – with the earliest confirmed case of a patient with the novel coronavirus supposedly cropping up just one week earlier.

The World Health Organisation was not tipped off for another 16 days after Taiwan raised the alarm.
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Update:  Biden talks with Xi, doesn't bring up virus.
https://nypost.com/2021/09/10/biden-talks-with-chinese-leader-xi-but-doesnt-discuss-covid-19/
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Re: Epidemics: Bird Flu, TB, AIDs, Superbugs, Ebola, etc
« Reply #1265 on: September 10, 2021, 07:29:05 AM »
" I heard from Thomas Friedman NYT, from the old neighborhood, that they have a better form of government.  Without checks and balances, that seems hard to believe."

That's a feature, not a bug to the left.

See our current circumstances.

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Pandemic, past the peak, Delta is dying
« Reply #1266 on: September 12, 2021, 05:19:28 AM »
https://www.city-journal.org/good-news-from-cdc-on-delta-variant-covid-pandemic?wallit_nosession=1
Delta is Dying
New CDC findings show that we’re closer than ever to the end of the pandemic.
Joel Zinberg
September 10, 2021
Despite media claims that “We Can’t Turn the Corner on Covid,” the numbers of Covid-19 cases, new hospitalizations, and deaths nationwide peaked and started to decline around the beginning of September. The combination of this milestone, new findings from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention showing widespread levels of vaccination and natural immunity, and improved availability of treatments suggests that, outside of isolated pockets, Covid-19 is likely to become a diminishing health risk in the United States.

City Journal
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Re: Epidemics: Bird Flu, TB, AIDs, Superbugs, Ebola, etc
« Reply #1270 on: September 12, 2021, 10:46:50 AM »
From above post:

"https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/fauci-finally-admits-covid-19-may-have-come-wuhan-lab-not-convinced-natural-origin"

There is NO way in high heaven Fauci did not from DAY #1 not shit in his pants thinking this virus might have been a manufactured one .

No way .

He was clearly lying the whole time with his denials.

Going around telling everyone "my colleagues " in China tell me it was not manufactured blah blah blah .

ZERO chance this politically savvy shrewd guy would be THAT naive - nada.

He was artfully deceiving us of his own thoughts and knowledge the entire time.

Another one of his ploys -

"what good does it do to point fingers - the virus is here now and we have to deal with it."

Why blame Hitler ?  WW2 is in our faces - just deal the problem at hand...........

He should be in an orange jump suit spending his retirement in jail - not continuing to collect the highest salary in government with all Fed employee  perks etc.
My guess is he has enough accrued sick time never taken to pay for a year salary for free.
Who in the private sector gets this kind of give away?




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Ivermectin
« Reply #1271 on: September 12, 2021, 02:38:41 PM »




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Plan accordingly
« Reply #1276 on: September 17, 2021, 08:38:28 AM »







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WSJ: Why the vaccines don't last longer
« Reply #1283 on: September 21, 2021, 04:46:05 AM »
Why don’t Covid-19 vaccinations last longer?

Measles shots are good for life, chickenpox immunizations protect for 10 to 20 years, and tetanus jabs last a decade or more. But U.S. officials are weighing whether to authorize Covid-19 boosters for vaccinated adults as soon as six months after the initial inoculation.

The goal of a vaccine is to provide the protection afforded by natural infection, but without the risk of serious illness or death.

“A really good vaccine makes it so someone does not get infected even if they are exposed to the virus,” said Rustom Antia, a biology professor at Emory University who studies immune responses. “But not all vaccines are ideal.”

The three tiers of defense, he said, include full protection against infection and transmission; protection against serious illness and transmission; or protection against serious illness only.

The effectiveness depends on the magnitude of the immune response a vaccine induces, how fast the resulting antibodies decay, whether the virus or bacteria tend to mutate, and the location of the infection.

The threshold of protection is the level of immunity that’s sufficient to keep from getting sick. For every bug, it’s different, and even how it’s determined varies.

Windows of immunity for selected vaccines

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Sources: San Francisco Department of Public Health (hepatitis A); National Institutes of Health (human papillomavirus); Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (tetanus, typhoid, influenza, Covid-19)
“Basically, it’s levels of antibodies or neutralizing antibodies per milliliter of blood,” said Mark Slifka, a professor at Oregon Health & Science University.

(T-cells also contribute to protection, but antibodies are easier to measure.)

A threshold 0.01 international units per milliliter was confirmed for tetanus in 1942 when a pair of German researchers intentionally exposed themselves to the toxin to test the findings of previous animal studies.

“One of them gave himself two lethal doses of tetanus in his thigh, and monitored how well it went,” Dr. Slifka said. “His co-author did three lethal doses.”

Neither got sick.

A threshold for measles was pinned down in 1985 after a college dorm was exposed to the disease shortly after a blood drive. Researchers checked antibody concentrations in the students’ blood donations and identified 0.02 international units per milliliter as the level needed to prevent infection.


Recent studies have shown that the effectiveness of Covid-19 vaccines is decreasing, though experts say the shots still work well. WSJ explains what the numbers mean and why they don’t tell the full story. Photo illustration: Jacob Reynolds/WSJ

With these diseases, the magnitudes of response to the vaccines combined with the antibodies’ rates of decay produce durable immune responses: Measles antibodies decay slowly. Tetanus antibodies decay more quickly, but the vaccine causes the body to produce far more than it needs, offsetting the decline.

“We’re fortunate with tetanus, diphtheria, measles and vaccinia,” Dr. Slifka said. “We have identified what the threshold of protection is. You track antibody decline over time, and if you know the threshold of protection, you can calculate durability of protection. With Covid, we don’t know.”

Historically, the most effective vaccines have used replicating viruses, which essentially elicit lifelong immunity.

Measles and chickenpox vaccines use replicating viruses.

Non-replicating vaccines and protein-based vaccines (such as the one for tetanus) don’t last as long, but their effectiveness can be enhanced with the addition of an adjuvant—a substance that enhances the magnitude of the response.

Tetanus and hepatitis A vaccines use an adjuvant.


The Johnson & Johnson and AstraZeneca Covid-19 vaccines use non-replicating adenovirus and don’t contain an adjuvant. The Pfizer and Moderna messenger RNA Covid-19 vaccines, which work differently, don’t contain any virus at all.

Complicating things further, viruses and bacteria that mutate to escape the body’s immune response are harder to control.

Measles, mumps, rubella and chickenpox hardly mutate at all, but at least eight variants of SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes Covid-19, have been found, according to the British Medical Journal. 

“It does make it more complicated for the vaccine to work,” Dr. Slifka said. “You’re chasing multiple targets over time. Flu also mutates. With flu, we’ve adjusted by making a new flu vaccine each year that as closely as possible matches the new strain of flu.”


Flu vaccines can offer protection for at least six months.

Setting aside the complexities of crafting an effective vaccine to combat a shape-shifting virus, some hope has revolved around the possibility of defeating Covid-19 by achieving herd immunity, but, according to Dr. Antia, the way coronaviruses infect the body makes that challenging.

“Vaccines are very unlikely to lead to long-lasting herd immunity for many respiratory infections,” Dr. Antia said. “The herd immunity only lasts for a modest period of time. It depends on how fast the virus changes. It depends on how fast the immunity wanes.”

Part of the problem is that coronaviruses replicate in both the upper and lower respiratory tracts.

“We have good circulation in our lungs and body, but not on the surfaces of our nostrils,” Dr. Slifka said. “We can block severe disease because there are antibodies in the lower respiratory tract.”


But the risk of low-level infections in the upper respiratory tract can persist.

Moving forward, Covid-19 vaccines will be updated to combat variants of the virus, and according to researchers at Imperial College London, the next generation of vaccines might also focus on enhancing immunity in the moist surfaces of the nose and lungs.

In the meantime, avoiding the slippery virus might require another shot.

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Re: Epidemics: Bird Flu, TB, AIDs, Superbugs, Ebola, etc
« Reply #1284 on: September 21, 2021, 05:26:42 AM »
"In the meantime, avoiding the slippery virus might require another shot."

And a heart transplant!



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Wake up
« Reply #1287 on: September 22, 2021, 09:10:36 AM »


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How do you know?
« Reply #1289 on: September 22, 2021, 12:39:38 PM »

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Alpha, Delta, Covid-19, vaccine 1,2,3, anti bodies, treatment, contagion, death
« Reply #1290 on: September 22, 2021, 01:42:33 PM »
See if I have this right.

Covid 19 is named for year 2019 when it started spreading from Wuhan China throughout the world, now called alpha.

Trump operation Warpspeed vaccines 1 & 2 [Moderna and Pfizer] were allegedly 95% effective stopping me from getting or spreading [alpha] virus at the time I took the jabs.  The health risk for vaccination was allegedly near zero then.

About that same time, India went crazy with a variant now called Delta.  99% of cases now are delta.  The 'alpha' vaccine is way less effective against delta.

By now, everyone who wanted the vaccine got the vaccine.  The debate is over mandates.

No new vaccines have come out in the US since Trump left office nor is there any push to improve them.

The vaccine (developed for alpha) cuts the very low death rate (for delta) down to near zero and slows the hospitalization rate, but does not stop the spread.

The vaccination rate does not take note of the natural immunization rate that comes from infection and recovery which is 7-8 times more effective, 13 and 26 times more effective than the vaccine depending on whose numbers you choose.  Presumably areas with lower vaccination rates have higher natural immunity rates.

The debate over all of this is clouded by the fact of censorship of accurate and responsible data, analysis and opinions contrary to ruling view.

The mandate issue is more to do with liberty and constitution than contagion, virus or vaccination.

Red states have lower vaccination rates, higher hospitalization rates because Republicans are stupid.  Oddly it was Trump who said take the vaccine and Biden and Harris who both said don't trust it.  Blacks, Hispanics and Native Americans also have lower vaccination rates and higher hospitalization rates, meaning they are largely Republican but they are not.  Nor are they stupid or disproportionally reading right wing sites.  They are distrustful with reason.

Infection rates, hospitalization rates and death rates are all poorly measured.

If one place is safer and another is more dangerous, it has turned out to only mean one got that wave sooner. than the other

With all this confusion and chaos, too bad information is blocked.
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Re: Epidemics: Bird Flu, TB, AIDs, Superbugs, Ebola, etc
« Reply #1291 on: September 22, 2021, 01:49:56 PM »
"The health risk for vaccination was allegedly near zero then."

According to some, we are killing 2 with the clot shot for everyone we save from COVID.


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A liberal doc friend recommends this over MY
« Reply #1293 on: September 23, 2021, 03:09:58 AM »
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41577-021-00578-z.pdf

GM:  You proceeding post is very interesting.

Doug:  Nice summary.
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NIH on Ivermectin
« Reply #1294 on: September 24, 2021, 06:16:39 AM »





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Re: Epidemics: Bird Flu, TB, AIDs, Superbugs, Ebola, etc
« Reply #1299 on: September 24, 2021, 09:48:20 AM »
Credibility vel non is not automatically determined by the platform, but by the actual source.  Do you have issues with the actual source?