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Turkey is behaving like an enemy now
« Reply #151 on: October 20, 2017, 10:20:54 PM »
Turkey Is Behaving like an Enemy Now
by Michael J. Totten
World Affairs Journal
October 12, 2017
http://www.meforum.org/6970/turkey-is-behaving-like-an-enemy-now

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MEF: Turkey and the US are a poisoned alliance
« Reply #152 on: November 01, 2017, 05:10:40 PM »
Turkey and the U.S.: A Poisoned Alliance
by Burak Bekdil
The Gatestone Institute
October 30, 2017
http://www.meforum.org/6983/turkey-and-the-us-a-poisoned-alliance
 

In theory, Turkey and the United States have been staunch allies since the predominately Muslim nation became a NATO member state in 1952. Also, in theory, the leaders of the two allies are on friendly terms. President Donald Trump gave "very high marks" to Turkey's increasingly autocratic, Islamist President Recep Tayyip Erdogan during the Turkish leader's recent visit to Washington when his security detail attacked peaceful protesters.

It is puzzling why Trump gave a passionately (and ideologically) pro-Hamas, pro-Muslim Brotherhood, Islamist leader "very high marks." But in reality, the Ankara-Washington axis could not be farther from diplomatic niceties such as "allies" or "very high marks."

This is a select (and brief) recent anatomy of what some analysts call "hostage diplomacy" between the two "staunch NATO allies."

•   In June this year, Pew Research Center's Global Attitudes Survey, covering a total of 37 countries, revealed that 79% of Turks had an unfavorable opinion of the U.S. That was the second-highest among the countries surveyed, after 82% in Jordan. Anti-American sentiment in Turkey is 27% higher than in Russia, and more than twice as high as the global median of 39%.

•   There are reports that six Turkish government banks face billions of dollars in fines from the U.S. over alleged violations of Iran sanctions.

•   Turkey is keeping in jail, among a dozen or so others, a NASA scientist who was vacationing with relatives in Turkey, and a Christian missionary who has lived in Turkey for 23 years. Others include a visiting chemistry professor from Pennsylvania and his brother, a real-estate agent. All of them face long prison sentences for allegedly playing a part in last year's failed coup against Erdogan's government.

There is little doubt that the U.S. citizens are being held in Turkey as a bargaining chip to pressure Washington to extradite Muslim cleric Fethullah Gülen, a former Erdogan ally and allegedly the mastermind behind the attempted putsch. Erdogan himself does not hide his intentions. If Gülen were handed over, Erdogan said, he would sort out the American pastor's judicial case. "Give him to us and we will put yours through the judiciary; we will give him to you," he said recently.

•   Early in October, as "hostage diplomacy" intensified, the "staunch allies" U.S. and Turkey stopped issuing non-immigrant visas to each other's citizens -- a restriction that has already affected thousands of travelers. The first ban came from the U.S., then Turkey retaliated. The U.S. move came after Turkey's arrest of a U.S. consulate employee, a Turkish citizen, on charges that he had links to Gülen. The visa ban put Turkey in the same category of countries such as Chad, Iran, Libya, North Korea, Somalia, Venezuela and Yemen. Erdogan also claims that the U.S. is hiding a suspect in its Istanbul consulate who is also linked to Gülen.

•   Erdogan apparently wants to raise the stakes. A Turkish court earlier in October convicted -- in absentia -- a Wall Street Journal reporter of producing "terrorist propaganda" in Turkey and sentenced her to more than two years in prison. Ayla Albayrak was sentenced for writing an August 2015 article which, the judges ruled, violated Turkey's anti-terror laws. Had Albayrak not been in New York at the time of the verdict, she would have joined nearly 200 journalists already jailed in Turkey.

•   Adding insult to injury over the "very high marks," Erdogan claims that the U.S., not Turkey, is uncivilized and undemocratic. In an Oct. 21 speech, he said that the U.S. indictment against his bodyguards was "undemocratic." He said, "They say the United States is the cradle of democracy. This can't be true. This can't be democracy ... I'm sorry, but I cannot say that country [the U.S.] is civilized."

A kind of "transactional relationship" is, of course, understandable, given U.S. interests in a volatile region of the world where Turkey happens to be one of the state actors. All the same, the U.S. administration does not have the luxury of maintaining a game in which it views Turkey as a "staunch ally" and Erdogan as a leader with "very high marks." This make-believe policy toward Turkey will only further poison whatever is left of what once was a genuinely staunch alliance.
Washington does not have the luxury of maintaining the pretense that Turkey is 'staunch ally.'

Turkey is clearly no longer a "staunch ally." Take the most significant geostrategic regional calculation in northern Syria: What Ankara views as the biggest security threat are U.S. allies fighting the Islamic State: the Syrian Kurds.

Ever since the Iraqi Kurds held a referendum (and voted "yes") on independence, on September 25, Turkey has aligned itself with Iran and the Iran-controlled government in Iraq, who view the Kurdish political movement as a major threat.

In addition, the anti-American sentiment in Turkey (part of which has been fueled by the Islamist government that has been in power since 2002) may push Turkey further into a Russian-led axis of regional powers, including Iran. Erdogan will not wish to look pro-American ahead of critical presidential elections in 2019 when 79% of Turks have an unfavorable opinion of the U.S.

Moreover, the idea of unifying Sunnis against the Shiite bloc is more difficult than it may look. Sunni Turks view Sunni Kurds, as an existential threat who are -- allied with Shiite Iran and Iran-controlled Iraq, which contains Kurds.

Saudi Arabia and Turkey also found themselves at the opposite ends of the crisis surrounding Qatar -- all Sunni.

Burak Bekdil is an Ankara-based political analyst and a fellow at the Middle East Forum.

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Turkey bans all LGBTQ events
« Reply #153 on: November 20, 2017, 07:54:17 AM »
https://nypost.com/2017/11/19/turkey-bans-all-lgbtq-events-in-capital/

Two of my favorite Democrat constituencies, Islamists and gays, are not getting along with each other.  Nothing says tolerance like accepting people who stone people they don't agree with.

They are looking out for their safety by Banning their events.

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Stratfor: Turkey's currency tumbles towards record low
« Reply #154 on: November 22, 2017, 05:19:57 AM »
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News of Turkey's deteriorating currency aligns with Stratfor's 2017 Annual Forecast, in which we mentioned how the lira's continued instability will spook investors, who are already alarmed by the country's political crackdowns.
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The value of Turkey's currency, the lira, rapidly depreciated to record lows today, falling to 3.97 against the U.S. dollar. In an effort to not breach the unprecedented rate of 4 lira to 1 dollar, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan instructed his ministers to prepare urgent measures to bolster the currency over the next few days. On Nov. 21, Turkey's Central Bank cut its borrowing limits to sustain the lira's value, reduce liquidity and avoid a financial meltdown.

Leading up to the next Central Bank meeting on Dec.14, Erdogan, along with other policymakers, will likely engage in a heated debate over what measures to take next. Historically, the president has been reticent to raise interest rates, preferring to meddle with his country's monetary policy in ways that restrict the Central Bank's ability to take preventative measures in step with global market dynamics. However, the currency slide has Erdogan concerned about the damage it could inflict on the economy. Turkey depends on high levels of domestic consumption, and without purchasing power and consumer confidence, Turkish citizens' trust in the government could falter.

Without purchasing power and consumer confidence, Turkish citizens' trust in the government could falter.

The origins of the currency slide come from within the country but some of the latest drivers of the trend are external. Turkey has one of the world's most fragile economies, largely because the country is heavily reliant on short-term hot money flows. Dependence on short-term profit makes Ankara highly sensitive to global capital flows. This was the case in 2013 when the United States announced a tapering of its Quantitative Easing program, and international capital flooded into the United States — and out of emerging markets such as Turkey. At that time, Turkey was one of the so-called Fragile Five countries that had difficulties adjusting to changes in U.S. economic policy.

Ankara faced the same problem in 2016 when money again flowed into the United States, driving up the dollar as part of the "Trump Trade." Following a year of dollar depreciation, it's no surprise that the lira's own depreciation coincides with a mini-resurgence in the greenback. In early November, the ratings agency Standard and Poor's released a list of the new Fragile Five countries. Of the five, Turkey was the only country from the 2013 list that remained. The other four countries — Brazil, India, Indonesia and South Africa — mended their economies and were replaced by Argentina, Pakistan, Egypt and Qatar. If Turkey is to escape its economic funk, Ankara may want to consider changing its approach.

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Stratfor: Turkey, Iran, Qatar
« Reply #155 on: November 28, 2017, 07:39:32 AM »
Turkey: Turkey, Qatar and Iran signed a transportation agreement intended to facilitate trade among the three countries. It effectively makes Iran the transit country for Turkey-Qatar trade. Additionally, the Iranian Chamber of Commerce said Iran is having difficulty exporting goods to Syria because the market is saturated with goods from Turkey. Why has Turkey signed on to a deal that links it so closely to Iran? How does Turkey view Iran’s growing power in the region? Is Ankara radically shifting its position?

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Testimony in NY: Turkey laundering Iranian money around sanctions
« Reply #156 on: November 30, 2017, 02:44:07 PM »
Nothing surprising here, it's not like Islamist-run Turkey is a member of NATO or (former) ally of the US...

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/reza-zarrab-taking-stand-trial-straining-u-s-turkish-ties-n824751
http://www.shariahfinancewatch.org/blog/2017/11/30/turkish-despot-erdogan-implicated-in-plot-to-launder-money-for-ayatollahs-in-iran/
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/30/world/europe/erdogan-turkey-iran-sanctions.html?mtrref=www.google.com&gwh=70BBA54BC1D475CCA3BB81FA5ECD6A26&gwt=pay

The crux of United States v. Zarrab, as the case was formerly known, is ultimately about U.S. sanctions, and how a group of high-ranking and well-connected Turkish actors, including Zarrab, may have conspired to assist Iran in skirting them through fraud and elaborate money-laundering schemes.
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/11/could-the-reza-zarrab-case-lead-to-mike-flynns-downfall.html

NY Magazine ponders Michael Flynn's involvement in this.
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/03/flynn-admits-to-lobbying-for-firm-linked-to-turkey.html

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GPF: Turkey hearing Ottoman echoes
« Reply #157 on: December 28, 2017, 11:06:58 AM »
In North Africa, Signs of a Turkish Revival
Dec 28, 2017
By Allison Fedirka

For a number of years, the Turkish government has tried to strengthen relations with countries that were formerly part of the Ottoman Empire. It’s part of what GPF sees as Turkey’s re-emergence as a regional power. One of the regions in which it has tried to establish a growing presence is North Africa, where the Turkish president has spent much of this week on state visits. It’s important to remember, however, that Ankara still faces a number of barriers to restoring its past glory.

Reviving Turkish Influence

President Recep Tayyip Erdogan this week visited Sudan, Tunisia and Chad in what, on the surface, appeared to be routine diplomatic trips aimed at maintaining bilateral ties. Both the Turkish and the international press particularly emphasized the Sudan visit, highlighting Turkey’s plan to restore the Suakin Port along the Red Sea. The port has been defunct for more than a century, but it was a major port during part of the time that Sudan was ruled by the Ottomans. It will now be used mostly for tourism and a ferry service to Mecca.
 
Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan (C-L) is welcomed by his Sudanese counterpart Omar al-Bashir (C-R) upon his arrival in Khartoum on Dec. 24, 2017, for a two-day official visit. ASHRAF SHAZLY/AFP/Getty Images

The restoration of this port is part of a broader neo-Ottomanist strategy to revive Turkish influence in regions once controlled by the Ottomans. Domestically, the government has been arousing pan-Turkic sentiment for years through a number of measures, including restoring historic sites. But now we’re seeing moves to expand Turkish power on the international front, with the Turkish press even referencing the country’s Ottoman past during Erdogan’s visits abroad.

But Turkey won’t be able to revive its old empire if it can’t ensure its own survival. Key to its survival is maintaining its control over the Bosporus, a critical waterway that separates the European and Asian parts of Turkey. The Ottomans too depended on this passageway. Before Mehmed the Conqueror took Constantinople (now Istanbul) in 1453, the Byzantine Empire was able to threaten the Ottomans and prevent them from defending their holdings on either side of the strait. Securing the Bosporus requires building buffer zones around it where Turkey can maintain some degree of influence and prevent other powers from getting close enough to threaten Turkish control. Building this strategic depth requires establishing power over parts of the Caucasus that can act as chokepoints in its ability to project power further east toward Iran; securing territory south of the Caucasus in Arab lands that border the western side of the Zagros Mountains; protecting or controlling its border with Europe in the southern Balkans; and defending itself in the eastern Mediterranean.
 
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Turkey faces challenges to establishing buffers in each of these directions. In the Caucasus, it faces competition from both Iran and Russia. In the Balkans, it has to contend with the Russians and key European powers, although Europe currently lacks a major power like the Hapsburg Empire so it’s less threatening. To the south, the Syrian civil war rages on and a lot of political, and potentially military, maneuvering will be needed to establish a Turkish foothold here.

Less Competition

The one place where Turkey could more easily expand its presence is in North Africa. Turkish engagement with countries like Sudan and Tunisia will be met with relatively less competition or pushback from other regional powers. North Africa’s main geopolitical value is its access to the Mediterranean Sea and, to the east, the Suez Canal, which connects the Mediterranean to the Red Sea. Given that Europe borders the Mediterranean to the north, it naturally has an interest in North African affairs. But this interest is currently limited to stemming migration to Europe, which has exacerbated internal political divisions on the Continent.

The United States needs to ensure its navy has access to the Mediterranean, but it already has this through its NATO partnerships. Washington’s resources are stretched thin, and the resouces it has devoted to Africa are mostly focused on security operations in the Sahel and the Horn of Africa.

Russia has recently established a minor naval presence in the Mediterranean to support its operations in Syria, but the fleet’s home base is far away in Murmansk, and maintaining long, large deployments in the region is logistically difficult. Its efforts to expand its global influence are better focused elsewhere in the Middle East or in other strategic regions where it can better compete. Additionally, should it want to contest Turkey directly over the Bosporus, it can use its Black Sea Fleet.

Both Sudan and Tunisia fell under Ottoman rule during the empire’s heydays and could allow Turkey to once again project power into North Africa. The Ottoman Empire seized control over North Africa and maintained this control by relying heavily on local actors and a very powerful navy. In the 15th and 16th centuries, the Ottoman navy had a strong presence in the Mediterranean and maintained trading routes to North Africa for much of this time. While some Italian city states tried to challenge it for control of these routes, they failed to cut maritime supply routes. This time around, however, considering the significant U.S. and NATO presence in the Mediterranean, Ankara will likely establish its influence through political ties and economic investments.

Turkey may be trying to re-establish its once mighty power, but a number of factors still stand in its way. Iran is chief among them. Tehran, which has strong ties with the governments in Damascus and Baghdad, is blocking Turkey’s path in Syria and Iraq. Even at the height of Ottoman power, the empire couldn’t push its borders too far east due to geographic factors, including the long distance between Istanbul and eastern Turkey that made supplying its army difficult.

Although deeply concerned about the rising power of Iran, the Arabs are also worried about Turkish expansion and are therefore resisiting alignment with Turkey. But the Arabs need a counter to Iran. Egypt, considering the state of its economy, is in no position to be an Arab leader. Saudi Arabia is still dealing with the fallout of its economic reforms and the drop in oil prices. Neither of these two countries is capable of countering Iranian power, and thus the only viable option is Turkey.

But by supporting the Turks, they run the risk of helping Turkey re-establish itself as the regional hegemony. The Ottoman Empire is a blueprint for what this regional hegemony might look like in the future, and Ankara’s interest in North Africa is motivated by its desire to grasp that power once again.

The post In North Africa, Signs of a Turkish Revival appeared first on Geopolitical Futures.

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« Reply #158 on: January 10, 2018, 11:34:06 AM »


•   Syria: The Turkish government summoned the Russian and Iranian ambassadors to express “discomfort” over violence in Idlib, Syria. Are we seeing a serious breakdown in cooperation among the three countries?
•   Turkey: The Turkish government said it will mediate between Iraq and the Kurdistan Regional Government in northern Iraq. The standoff that followed the KRG’s secession referendum in September 2017 seems to have ended – Iran reopened its border crossings with the region, and KRG President Massoud Barzani resigned. So what is there to talk about?
•   Turkey: Turkish newspaper Haberturk reported that dams near the capital, Ankara, are only 15-20 percent full, and said there is a serious drought throughout Anatolia. Let’s define the drought geographically and gauge its impact. Turkey isn’t Syria, but remember that Syria’s civil war broke out in part because water issues forced Sunni Arabs into cities because they couldn’t make a living as farmers anymore.

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GPF: Turkey breaks w Iran and Russia
« Reply #159 on: January 11, 2018, 05:36:37 AM »
Turkey Breaks With Iran and Russia
Jan 11, 2018

 
By Jacob L. Shapiro
The “Astana troika” is in danger of breaking up. After meeting in Astana, Kazakhstan, in mid-September, Turkey, Iran and Russia agreed to serve as guarantors of a cease-fire agreement in Syria. Four “de-escalation zones” were established with the goal of a six-month pause (subject to further extension) in fighting between the forces of Syrian President Bashar Assad’s regime and anti-government rebels in these zones. The problem with this arrangement is that these countries don’t see eye to eye. Turkey supports the anti-government rebels. Russia and Iran support Assad’s regime. Now the two sides are accusing each other of supporting their favorites rather than keeping the peace.
 
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On Jan. 9, the Turkish Foreign Ministry summoned the Russian and Iranian ambassadors to express its concerns over the Assad regime’s advances in the Idlib de-escalation zone, the largest, most strategic and most contested of the four zones. The next day, Turkey’s foreign minister pointed the finger at Russia and Iran, insisting that Turkey’s two purported partners needed to do more to stop the Syrian regime and fulfill their duties as guarantors of the cease-fire. The same day, Yeni Safak, a Turkish newspaper known for its strong support of President Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s government, claimed that the Assad regime’s advance was coordinated with the Islamic State, with the tacit support of Russia and Iran. Turkey likes to accuse all its enemies of being in cahoots with IS, but Russia and Iran aren’t supposed to be enemies. That makes the report notable, regardless of its admittedly dubious veracity.

This isn’t the first time Turkey has had cause for concern about the actions of Russia and Iran. On Dec. 20, Reuters reported that the Syrian army, backed by Russian air support, had seized 50 villages in southern Idlib province the previous week. On Dec. 25, Anadolu Agency reported Syrian and Russian airstrikes in both Idlib and Hama provinces. On Jan. 7, TRT reported additional airstrikes in Idlib, and the next day, Anadolu reported that a Turkish military convoy in Idlib had come under fire from unknown assailants. And on Jan. 10, Syria’s state-run news agency SANA reported that Syrian government forces and allies had captured 23 new villages in the Idlib countryside.

Different Points of View

From Turkey’s perspective, the Assad regime, with Russian air support and Iran’s blessing, is attempting to assert its control over territories currently held by anti-Assad regime rebels. The victims of this offensive are civilians and moderate opposition groups that Turkey has pledged to defend.

Russia, for its part, does not accept that the terms of the cease-fire apply to all elements of the opposition. The dominant militia in Idlib is Hayat Tahrir al-Sham, a jihadist group whose core element is al-Qaida’s Syrian branch. Russia views HTS as a fair target and is encouraging the Assad regime to attack HTS fighters wherever they hold territory. HTS strongholds happen to be in Idlib, so that is where Russia is concentrating its resources. Eliminating jihadists, from Russia’s point of view, is a necessary part of maintaining the de-escalation zones. Furthermore, Russia expected Turkey to put pressure on HTS to give up its arms and disband when its forces entered Idlib province. Turkey has declined to do so, at times even collaborating with HTS on the ground, giving Russia the pretense it needs to support further Assad regime consolidation efforts.

It’s important to keep in mind that none of this was Russia’s preferred outcome. Russian President Vladimir Putin announced the defeat of IS and the imminent withdrawal of Russian troops from Syria on Dec. 6, in part because he calculated that conditions were ripe for a political solution to the Syrian civil war. Putin’s political solution and the triumphant recall of Russian troops now seem a distant memory. On Dec. 31, at least two Russian soldiers were killed when Hmeimim air base was shelled, reportedly by jihadist militants. Russia disputed reports that a significant number of its planes were damaged in the attack. Then, on Jan. 6, 13 unmanned aerial vehicles attacked the base at Hmeimim and a logistics center at Tartus. According to Russia’s Ministry of Defense, the attacking UAVs were neutralized. The two attacks have underscored just how far Russia is from being able to pull out its forces, and how vulnerable its forces are to attack.

Russia has since made a point of providing two more details about the Jan. 6 attack. On Jan. 8, the Russian Ministry of Defense said the UAVs were of such sophistication that they “could have been received only from a country with high technological potential on providing satellite navigation and distant control of firing.” In other words: the United States. (The Pentagon has rejected these claims as ludicrous and noted that IS regularly uses primitive UAVs to attack U.S.-backed Syrian Democratic Forces fighters in eastern Syria.) Then, on Jan. 10, the Defense Ministry’s newspaper published a report that said the UAVs had been launched from Muazzara in southwestern Idlib. The report said that this territory was under the control of “moderate opposition” forces backed by the Turkish government and that Russia had sent a formal complaint of its own to high-level Turkish officials exhorting them to ensure Turkey enforced the cease-fire.

Iran Leans Toward Russia

Iran has not made its views known on this particular incident. The presence of Iran’s foreign minister in Moscow on Jan. 10, however, as well as its own military support of Assad’s advances in Idlib, indicate that Iran’s views are more closely aligned with Russia than with Turkey on this matter, which only makes sense. Though Turkey and Iran have some interests in common, they diverge in Syria, despite prior short-term tactical cooperation against Kurdish groups. Iran looks at the Assad regime as integral to its strategy to increase its power. Turkey views Iran as a long-term rival that has amassed an impressive strategic advantage in recent months and needs to be cut back down to size. Turkey also sees that Iran, at least for now, has tied its ambitions to Russia, another long-term Turkish rival.

Nevertheless, the “alliance” among these three countries was built on a mismatch of interests. It’s a perfect example of the old adage that two’s company, three’s a crowd. The more countries you try to cram into an alliance, the more tenuous the alliance becomes. It was one thing to coordinate moves when all sides could agree that defeating the Islamic State was the main priority. But the defeat of IS eliminated the only common ground these countries had in Syria. Turkey’s ideal political solution sees Assad removed and the country stitched back together under Sunni aegis. Iran’s ideal political solution sees Assad restored but dependent on Iran and its proxies for survival. Russia’s ideal political solution is any that makes it appear strong and keeps Assad as a somewhat independent actor, neither dependent on Tehran nor fearful of Ankara’s next move. Something’s got to give.

Now these fissures are coming out into the open, just a week before representatives of Iran, Turkey and Russia are to meet to plan the Sochi Congress on Syria’s Future, scheduled for Jan. 29-30. Even the preparations for this meeting have been tense, with some Syrian opposition groups refusing to attend and Turkey insisting that it will not attend any meeting that includes the YPG, the militia representing Syrian Kurds. Russia reportedly had invited YPG representatives in October but backed off when Turkey objected. Syrian Kurdish officials insisted as recently as two weeks ago that Moscow has promised them an invitation, while Turkey maintains that Russia has agreed not to do so. Russia, for its part, has a history of supporting anti-Turkish Kurdish groups when it’s strategically useful to keep Turkey distracted.

Regardless of who attends the Sochi meeting, Syria’s future will not be decided there, or in Astana or Geneva or Timbuktu. It’s being decided on the ground in Syria right now, and it’s bringing Turkey into conflict, however unwillingly, with its historical rivals. The Astana troika may very well figure out a way to paper over these inconsistencies during the meeting in Sochi, but it’s all a charade. On the ground, the Assad regime has the upper hand and Russia is calling the shots, still very much at war. Iran is biding its time, hoping to capitalize on Russia’s eventual fatigue. Turkey finds itself backed into a corner but without the requisite strength to preserve its interests. It needs to stall, but angry comments to ambassadors won’t stop Assad or Russia, though they will produce nice headlines. Turkey is searching for a way to stop Assad, and if it can’t find one, it will be on the losing end of this breakup.

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MEF: Turkey, the Arab world is just not that into you.
« Reply #160 on: January 21, 2018, 05:49:18 PM »
Turkey, the Arab World Is Just Not That into You
by Burak Bekdil
The Gatestone Institute
January 14, 2018
http://www.meforum.org/7162/arabs-are-just-not-that-into-turkey
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He runs around in a fake fire extinguisher's outfit, holding a silly hose in his hands and knocking on neighbors' doors to put out the fire in their homes. "Go away," his neighbors keep telling him. "There is no fire here!" I am the person to put out that fire, he insists, as doors keep shutting on his face. That was more or less how Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan's neo-Ottoman, pro-ummah (Islamic community), "Big Brother" game has looked in the Middle East.

After years of trial and failure Erdogan does not understand that his services are not wanted in the Muslim neighborhood: The Iranians are too Shiite to trust his Sunni Islamism; the (mostly Sunni) Kurds' decades-long dispute with the Turks is more ethnic than religious; and Sunni Arabs do not wish to revisit their Ottoman colonial past. Still, Erdogan insists.

Turkish textbooks have taught children how treacherous Arab tribes stabbed their Ottoman ancestors in the back during the First World War, and even how Arabs collaborated with non-Muslim Western powers against Muslim Ottoman Turks. A pro-Western, secular rule in the modern Turkish state in the 20thcentury coupled with various flavors of Islamism in the Arab world added to an already ingrained anti-Arabism in the Turkish psyche.

Erdogan does not understand that Arabs do not wish to revisit their Ottoman colonial past.

Erdogan's indoctrination, on the other hand, had to break that anti-Arabism if he wanted to revive the Ottoman Turkish rule over a future united ummah. The Turks had to rediscover their "Arab brothers" if Erdogan's pan-Islamism had to advance into the former Ottoman realms in the Middle East.

It was not a coincidence that the number of imam [religious] school students, under Erdogan's rule, has risen sharply to 1.3 million from a mere 60,000 when he first came to power in 2002, an increase of more than twenty-fold. Erdogan is happy. "We are grateful to God for that," he said late in 2017.

Meanwhile, the Turkish Education Ministry added Arabic courses to its curriculum and the state broadcaster, TRT, launched an Arabic television channel.

Not enough. In addition, Erdogan would pursue a systematic policy to bash Israel at every opportunity and play the champion Muslim leader of the "Palestinian cause." He has done that, too, and in an exaggerated way, by countless times declaring himself the champion of the Palestinian cause -- and he still does it.
 
Turkey hosted a high-profile summit of Arab-Islamic leaders in December 2017 to condemn U.S. recognition of Jerusalem as Israel's capital. The front row, from left to right: Emir Sabah of Kuwait, King Abdullah of Jordan, Erdogan, and Mahmoud Abbas of the Palestinian Authority.

Erdogan's Turkey championed an international campaign to recognize eastern Jerusalem as the capital city of the Palestinian state, with several Arab pats on the shoulder.
His spokesman, Ibrahim Kalin, happily said that the dispute over Jerusalem after President Donald Trump's decision to move the U.S. embassy from Tel Aviv to the Israeli capital "had in fact united the Muslim world."

A united Muslim front around the "Palestinian capital Jerusalem" is a myth. Iran, for instance, renounced Turkey's Jerusalem efforts because, according to the regime, the entire city of Jerusalem, not just eastern Jerusalem, should have been recognized as the Palestinian capital. Before that, Turkey accused some Arab countries of showing a weak reaction to Trump's decision to move the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem.

The Turkish-Arab fraternity along Muslims lines is an even bigger myth. For instance, the Saudi-led Gulf blockade of Qatar imposed in June came as a complete shock. One of his Sunni brothers had taken out the sword against another?! Turkey's Sunni brothers had once been sympathetic to his ideas but no longer are.
Only two years ago, Turkey and Saudi Arabia were mulling the idea of a joint military strike in Syria.

For the Sunni Saudis, the Turks were allies only if they could be of use in any fight against Shiite Iran or its proxies, such as the Baghdad government or the Syrian regime. For the Saudis, Turkey was only useful if it could serve a sectarian purpose. Meanwhile, as Turkey, together with Qatar, kept on championing Hamas, Saudi Arabia and Egypt distanced themselves from the Palestinian cause and consequently from Turkey. Both the Saudi kingdom and Egypt's al-Sisi regime have viewed Hamas, an Iranian satellite, with hostility, whereas Turkey gave it logistical and ideological support. Another reason for the change in Saudi Arabia's position toward Turkey -- from "friendly" to "semi-medium-hostile" -- is Saudi Arabia's newfound alliance with Egypt's President el-Sisi. El-Sisi replaced the Muslim Brotherhood president, Mohamed Morsi, in Egypt, while Turkey and Qatar, have effectively been the embodiments of the Muslim Brotherhood in the region.

Erdogan offered to build a Turkish military base in the Kingdom, for example, but in June, Saudi officials turned him down.

Erdogan was a rock star in the Arab world when he visited Jerusalem in 2005. No longer.

Erdogan might benefit by being reminded of a few facts and shaken out of his make-believe world. For instance, he might recall, that his worst regional nemesis is an Arab leader, Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, not an "infidel king." He must realize that he is no longer the "rock star" he was in the streets of Amman or Beirut that he once was – when the only currency he could sell on the Arab Street was his anti-Semitic rants. Turkey does not even have full diplomatic relations with the most populous Sunni Arab nation, Egypt.

More recently, a tiny sheikdom had to remind Erdogan that his expansionist, "ummah-ist" design for the Middle East was no more than a fairy tale he persistently wanted to believe. In December, United Arab Emirates (UAE) Foreign Minister Sheikh Abdullah bin Zayed Al Nahayan shared a tweet that accused Turkish troops of looting the holy city of Medina a century ago. In response, Erdogan himself lashed out:

Some impertinent man sinks low and goes as far as accusing our ancestors of thievery ... What spoiled this man? He was spoiled by oil, by the money he has.  But that was not the end of what looks like a minor historical debate. The row symbolized the impossibility of what Erdogan has been trying to build: An eternal Arab-Turkish fraternity.
 
UAE Foreign Minister Anwar Gargash: The Arab world will "not be led by Turkey."

Anwar Gargash, UAE's Minister of State for Foreign Affairs, said there was a need for Arab countries to rally around the "Arab axis" of Saudi Arabia and Egypt. Did Erdogan hear that? If not, he should have heard this one: Gargash also said that "the Arab world would not be led by Turkey." In what better plain diplomatic language could the idea have been expressed?

Meanwhile Erdogan keeps living in his make-believe world. Last summer, as part of his futile "euphemizing Arab-Ottoman history" campaign, he claimed that "Arabs stabbed us in the back was a lie." Not even the Arabs claim they did not revolt against the Ottomans in alliance with Western powers.

If none of that is enough to convince Erdogan he should read some credible polling results. Taha Akyol, a prominent Turkish columnist, recently noted some research conducted by the pollster Zogby in 2016. The poll found that 67% of Egyptians, 65% of Saudis, 59% of UAE citizens, and 70% of Iraqis had an unfavorable opinion of Turkey.

Do not tell Erdogan, but if "polling" had existed a century ago, the numbers might have been even worse.

Burak Bekdil is an Ankara-based political analyst and a fellow at the Middle East Forum.
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That's the Ottoman Spirit!
« Reply #161 on: March 01, 2018, 12:10:03 PM »
Reread the thread that began this thread eleven years ago-- George Friedman runs deep:
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Proposed Anti-Tank Missile Sale to Turkey, Qatar Raises Concern
by John Rossomando  •  Mar 1, 2018 at 9:37 am
https://www.investigativeproject.org/7360/proposed-anti-tank-missile-sale-to-turkey-qatar
 

Advanced anti-tank missiles that Raytheon and Lockheed Martin plan to sell to Turkey and Qatar could end up in the hands of jihadists, a member of the Syrian Democratic Council (SDC) told the Investigative Project on Terrorism (IPT).  Defense Department officials announced last week that the two companies won a $95 million contract to sell sophisticated Javelin anti-tank missiles to Turkey, Qatar, Jordan, France, Taiwan, Jordan and Lithuania.

"This is very dangerous. Give these people weapons today. Never know if they end up using it in the West and Europe. These guys want back [the] Ottoman Empire," said Bassam Ishak, a member of the Syrian Democratic Council (SDC)'s political bureau. That is the political wing of the Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces that form the backbone of the Trump administration's strategy against ISIS in Syria.

Recently, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan threatened to attack SDF forces – and possibly U.S. troops who are stationed in Manbij, Syria in support of the SDF. Turkey also has recently threatened to invade NATO ally Greece.

Erdogan's government has a track record of arming jihadists in Syria. Turkey and Qatar provided arms to Libyan rebels, much of which ended up in the hands of the "more antidemocratic, more hard-line" groups.

Turkey served as the main source of arms in Libya, a March 2016 United Nations Security Council panel of experts found. Exiled Turkish journalist Abdullah Bozkurt reported that U.N. experts tracked the weapons to companies linked to the Turkish government.

Turkish intelligence, known by its Turkish acronym MIT, also armed hardline jihadists in Syria.

"At this point, any arms provided to Turkey under Erdogan['s] leadership is potentially dangerous," Bozkurt said. "It is the most anti-Western political leader that is on par with Iran's Mullahs."

U.S. officials seem oblivious to Turkey's role arming and supporting jihadists who attacking Sunni Syrian Arabs and Kurds who share America's secular, democratic values in the Afrin region, Ishak said.

He contrasts SDF supporters with the forces Turkey supports, saying the SDF wants a peaceful pluralistic Syria that is open to all regardless of religion or ethnicity, while Turkey wants a Syria ruled under shariah.

"They are acting like a bully in the neighborhood. They have regained the Ottoman bully spirit. If the world allows them to do this, you have a powerful Muslim Sunni state that is supporting religious extremists," Ishak said.

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Re: Turkey next, restrict the internet
« Reply #162 on: March 06, 2018, 08:50:34 AM »
There goes the democracy.  Like thomas Friedman, Erdogan's mentor is Communist China.

Restricting social media is what triggered the Arab Spring.

This country is our ally??

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/04/world/europe/turkey-erdogan-internet-law-restrictions.html
"...creeping control of the media has been a persistent feature of Mr. Erdogan’s 15 years in power. He has used every legal means, as well as extraordinary emergency powers since a failed coup in 2016, to steadily turn Turkey into an authoritarian system under his thumb." ...
"After the 2016 coup, 150 media outlets were closed down, and journalists were imprisoned at a pace that left Turkey second only to China..."
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This country will soon be unrecognizable to people who visited a half-modern Turkey a short time ago, like a school teacher / author friend who wrote this book of her stay a decade ago:
https://www.amazon.com/You-must-only-love-them-ebook/dp/B01DFUGIEI

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Turkey Refusing to Release Detained Greek Soldiers
by John Rossomando  •  Mar 6, 2018 at 8:55 am
https://www.investigativeproject.org/7363/turkey-refusing-to-release-detained-greek-soldiers

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MEF: Crafting a reponse toTurkish intransigence; Turkey has no place in NATO
« Reply #164 on: March 08, 2018, 12:25:31 PM »
Crafting a US Response to Turkish Intransigence
by Gregg Roman
The Hill
March 7, 2018
http://www.meforum.org/7239/crafting-a-us-response-to-turkish-intransigence
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Originally published under the title, "Navigating the U.S. Collision Course with Turkey."
 
 
Erdoğan has been repositioning Turkey as an adversary of the United States for years.


In a rare public policy speech in mid-December, National Security Advisor H.R. McMaster singled out Turkey as one of the two leading state sponsors (alongside Qatar) of "radical Islamist ideology." The Turkish government protested the statement as "astonishing, baseless and unacceptable," which means it was a pretty good start. McMaster's speech highlighted an emerging recognition among Trump administration officials that Recep Tayyip Erdoğan's Turkey poses a pernicious threat to US interests in the Near East. Since McMaster's speech, Erdoğan has invaded Afrin, Syria (a city then controlled by America's Kurdish allies), massacring women, children and the elderly; promoted the use of child soldiers in his fight against the Kurds; and undermined U.S. sanctions against Iran. A Manhattan Federal District Court's guilty verdict against a Turkish banker accused of helping Iran evade sanctions speaks volumes about the growing threat posed by Erdoğan's Turkey. Although Erdoğan was not charged in the case, "testimony suggested he had approved the [defendant's] sanctions-busting scheme" to launder billions of dollars for Iran beginning in 2012, according to the New York Times.

No more silence. No more favors. No more trust. No more second chances.

That Erdoğan was secretly weakening U.S. sanctions right when Iran was feeling the pinch should come as no surprise. He has been repositioning Turkey as an adversary of the United States for years — covertly aiding ISIS in Syria (before switching sides on a dime to align with Russian forces), overtly embracing Hamas terrorists, flooding Europe with migrants, and hosting an international summit condemning U.S. recognition of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, to name just a few of the lowlights. While wishful thinkers still hold out hope that U.S.-Turkish relations are strained by short-term concerns and eventually will rebound, a growing chorus of voices led by Daniel Pipes contends that "Erdoğan's hostile dictatorship" has passed the point of no return and cannot be reconciled with American interests and values. Erdoğan's increasingly brutal methods of governance, particularly since a July 2016 failed coup against his regime, is wholly unbecoming of a NATO ally. In late December, he issued an emergency decree that effectively legalizes politically-motivated lynching.

Why does the United States continue to allow Erdoğan's malign behavior in the region? And, more importantly, what should policymakers do about it?

For Washington, it is time both to up the ante in seeking a course correction from Erdoğan and to prepare for the worst. This path forward should be guided by the following basic principles.

No more silence

Since Erdoğan goes out of his way to lambast the United States at every turn, Washington should make a practice of not holding back when it censures his behavior.
The United States should speak out against Erdoğan's continuing oppression of minority Kurds, in Turkey and in neighboring Syria and Iraq. In particular, it should call for the release of Kurdish political leaders jailed by Erdoğan, such as Selahattin Demirtaş, co-chair of the Kurdish-dominated Peoples' Democratic Party (HDP). The US should invite Kurdish representatives to visit Washington for high-profile meetings at the White House, the State Department and the Pentagon.

No more favors

Last June, the United States International Trade Commission issued a report finding that Turkey has been subsidizing the sale of steel reinforcing bars (rebars) in the United States, a judgment that ordinarily leads to the imposition of anti-dumping tariffs. As of yet, this hasn't happened. But it must.

More serious penalties should await Turkey for purchasing the S-400 missile system from Russia last year, which clearly ran afoul of new U.S. sanctions on Russia (the manufacturer of the S-400 has been explicitly blacklisted by the State Department). The White House should immediately put to rest speculation that it intends to waive these penalties.

No more trust

Whichever direction Erdoğan's ambitions take Turkey, one thing is certain — his regime cannot be trusted with sensitive military technology and intelligence. The United States should expel Turkey from the nine-nation consortium producing the next-generation F-35 fighter jet. The risk that the plane's technological secrets will find their way from Turkey to Russia or Iran is too great.

The United States should remove dozens of nuclear weapons presently stored at Incirlik air base in southern Turkey. Although adequate safeguards are in place, these weapons serve no practical purpose (aircraft stationed at the base cannot load them) and their continued presence might be misconstrued as a U.S. endorsement of Erdoğan's reliability as an ally.

No more second chances

Erdoğan's government arrested more than a dozen American citizens of Turkish descent — including a NASA scientist who happened to be visiting family—in the wake of the July 2016 coup attempt. These arrests, as well as those of tens of thousands of Turkey's own subjects, are based on unspecified allegations concerning these individuals' involvement in the coup. Most incarcerated Americans were denied consular access until recently. At least seven are still being held in Turkish prisons— more or less as hostages. Erdoğan has offered to trade them for the extradition of a political rival living in the United States. While on a May 2017 visit to Washington, Erdoğan ordered his security detail to viciously attack peaceful protesters outside the Turkish ambassador's residence. A similar, equally appalling episode happened when he visited in 2016.

Washington must make it crystal clear to Erdoğan that any further egregious violations of the laws of the United States, the sanctity of its soil, or the rights of its citizens will result in immediate sanctions banning him and his lieutenants from stepping foot in this country (or inside one of its embassies) ever again.

In conclusion, while Turkey's relative political stability, economic strength and military power make it a desirable ally, they also make it a formidable enemy. Now is the time to make it clear to Erdoğan and his subjects that America no longer plays nice with its enemies.


Gregg Roman is director of the Middle East Forum.


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Erdoğan's Turkey has no Place in NATO
by Burak Bekdil
Begin-Sadat Center
March 7, 2018
http://www.meforum.org/7240/erdogan-turkey-has-no-place-in-nato

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Originally published under the title, "Turkey and NATO: From Loveless to Hateful Marriage."
 
 
Erdoğan and Putin in Istanbul, 2012

The West's self-imposed Pollyanna game over Turkey a decade or so ago seemed delusional to most Turks who knew the true nature of the Islamist politician lauded as a pro-reform, pro-West democrat. Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, western leaders argued, would consolidate Turkey's democratic system, bring the country closer to its western allies and even win a historic membership in the European Union. Erdogan's Turkey would be a perfect bridge between western and Islamic civilizations, thus being a role model for less democratic Muslim nations.

The founding values of NATO, such as the safeguarding of freedom and the principles of liberal democracy, individual liberties and rule of law, are rare commodities in today's Turkey.

A decade later, obliviousness has turned into bitter feelings, but Pollyanna is still out there, all smiles. In the words of Fabrizio F. Luciolli, president of the Atlantic Treaty Organization: "Since sixty-five years [sic], a mutual commitment binds Turkey and NATO, which can hardly be scratched by contingent interests or frictions, or replaced by new strategic directions. In its dialogue with Turkey, NATO once again reveals its unique role as transatlantic forum for political consultation on security issues."
Turkey-optimism is not a new phenomenon in the West. But it is fascinating that it still finds buyers in the marketplace of ideas.

A Phony Ally

Turkey has not arrived where it stands today overnight.

In April 2009, Turkey and Syria held a joint military exercise – the first of its kind between a NATO member and a Russian-armed and trained client state. In September 2010, Turkish and Chinese aircraft conducted joint exercises in Turkish airspace. This, too, was a first for a NATO air force. In 2011, before finally providing NATO forces with logistical support for their anti-Qaddafi campaign, then-Prime Minister Erdoğan angrily asked, "What business can NATO have in Libya?"

In 2012, Turkey became associated with the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) as a dialogue partner. (Other dialogue partners were Belarus and Sri Lanka; Afghanistan, India, Pakistan, Iran, and Mongolia acted as observers.) Since then, Erdoğan has repeatedly stated that Ankara will abandon its quest to join the EU if offered full membership in the SCO... In 2013, Turkey announced the selection of a Chinese company for the construction of its first long-range air and anti-missile defense system, reassuring its western allies that local engineering would make the Chinese system interoperable with the US and NATO assets deployed on Turkish soil. (The contract was eventually scrapped.)

Beginning in 2015, Turkey came under international suspicion for systematically and clandestinely abetting various jihadist groups in Syria, including, allegedly, ISIS. Speculated to have included logistics and arms, this support reflected Ankara's distinct approach to the Syrian theater: while the West's primary goal has been to fight ISIS, Erdoğan has sought to topple Syria's Alawite President Bashar Assad and install a Sunni, pro-Turkey, and Islamist regime in his place.

In December 2017, Ankara officially announced that it would acquire two Russian-made S-400 surface-to-air missile systems, making it the first NATO member state to operate such systems. To be sure, Turkey is also discussing with Eurosam, a European consortium, the development and co-production of a similar system for its future air defense architecture. But that hardly gives any relief to western capitals

where policymakers are now wondering, among other concerns, how a NATO ally will simultaneously operate a Russian-made air defense system and the planned, US-led, multinational F-35 strike fighters.

Turkey, a partner in the Joint Strike Fighter group that builds the F-35, has ordered a batch of 116 future stealth fighter jets. But its growing relations with Moscow and its recent military campaign in Syria have added to calls for an F-35 boycott. It is not a secret that Washington is quietly weighing that option as Erdoğan threatens to extend his military campaign in Syria to areas (Manbij and the east of the Euphrates) where US troops are aligned with Kurdish militias. Ankara has deemed these militias terrorist organizations and thus legitimate targets. This is not the typical war scenario NATO's first and second largest armies would normally envision.

A Grim Future

Then there is the problem of like-mindedness. The founding values of NATO, such as the safeguarding of freedom and the principles of liberal democracy, individual liberties and rule of law, are rare commodities in today's Turkey.

In January 2018, the annual Freedom in the World report, produced by the US NGO Freedom House, classified Turkey as "not free" for the first time since the report series began in 1999. The country had lost its status as "partly free" due to a slide in political and civil rights, Freedom House noted.

Also in January, the World Justice Report, an independent organization seeking to advance the rule of law around the world, said that Turkey fell to the 101st position out of 113 countries in its 2017-18 Rule of Law Index.

The future may be gloomier. At a time of rising xenophobia and anti-western sentiments across Turkey, Erdoğan's campaign for the November 2019 presidential elections will undoubtedly target the "evil powers of the West," adding to the isolationist (that is: anti-NATO) Turkish psyche.

Erdoğan's militancy will likely strike a chord among his constituents. According to a December 2017 survey by the Turkish pollster Optimar, 71.9 percent of Turks are "against the US" while 22.7 percent are "partly against the US." This in sharp contrast to the 62.1 percent approval rating among Turks for closer relations with Russia.
A survey of 393 Turkish businessmen has likewise found 66 percent of them to have an unfavorable opinion of the US; while a survey by Kadir Has University in Istanbul (in December 2017) found that 64.3 percent of respondents viewed the US as the top security threat to Turkey.

Russian President Vladimir Putin could not have possibly found a better partner than Erdoğan for his attempts to divide and weaken NATO.

         
Burak Bekdil is an Ankara-based columnist and a fellow at the Middle East Forum.

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GPF: Turkey getting ready to leave NATO?
« Reply #165 on: March 12, 2018, 12:05:46 PM »
Turkey: Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan criticized NATO for “not supporting” Turkey in its operations in Afrin, Syria. Meanwhile, Asharq Al-Awsat, a London-based Saudi daily that is becoming increasingly unreliable, reported that Turkey and Russia had come to a deal over Afrin’s fate. Is Erdogan trying to set things up for Turkey to leave NATO? What about this deal with Russia – is it real or just Saudi paranoia? Is it a data point showing that Turkey is moving away from NATO?

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Walter Russell Mean: Getting to Yes with Turkey
« Reply #166 on: March 13, 2018, 07:08:40 AM »
Not sure that I agree with his conclusions but WRM is an intelligent man and states difficult questions clearly

Getting to Yes With Turkey
There’s a common interest in countering the Russian-Iranian axis in Syria.
By Walter Russell Mead
March 12, 2018 7:32 p.m. ET
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The post-Obama Middle East is a grim and ugly place: the brutal wars in Syria, the deepened chaos in Iraq, the shambolic Libya mess, the vaulting ambition of Iran, the intrusion of Russia, the smoldering failure of the Arab Spring, and the collapse of the U.S.-Turkish relationship.

President Obama cannot be blamed for everything that went wrong in the Middle East on his watch. But it’s clear the Trump administration inherited an incoherent strategy, a discredited democracy agenda, alienated allies, and an American public so traumatized by successive American policy misfires that it has become skeptical about any American engagement in the region.

It is not a surprise under these circumstances that the Trump administration wants to change course, or that its efforts to do so have enjoyed significant support in the region. If the rise of Iran has created a crisis in the Middle East, it has also created a great opportunity. Israel and most of the Arab world are so horrified by the Iranian threat, and so unnerved by the vagaries of recent American policy, that the new administration has been able to repair relations with many old allies relatively quickly.

But if relations with Israel and Arab states have rapidly warmed, relations with Turkey have deteriorated dangerously—so much that the U.S. is looking for alternatives to its important air base in Incirlik. Richard Haass, president of the Council on Foreign Relations, has even called for the removal of American nuclear weapons from the country.

The Turkish alliance has been a pillar of America’s Middle East strategy since the Truman administration; indeed, it was Britain’s decision to end aid to Turkey and Greece in February 1947 that prompted the U.S. strategic review culminating in the Truman Doctrine and the Marshall Plan. With Iran hostile and the Arab world in disarray, Turkey is more important than ever to American policy.

Yet rebuilding relations with Turkey will force the U.S. to make some hard choices. One is about human rights. As with President Abdel Fattah Al Sisi in Egypt, a close relationship with Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan would raise difficult questions for America’s human-rights policy. Past policy failures in the Middle East make it hard for Americans to push a democracy and human-rights agenda in the region credibly, but Wilsonians—a significant part of any American political coalition interested in strong leadership abroad—are appalled by the evident repression in Turkey since the failed coup. If the Trump administration wants a close strategic relationship with Mr. Erdogan, it will have to accept some bitter and wounding criticism from human-rights advocates at home and in Europe.

The second choice is even harder. Syrian Kurds have been America’s most useful partners in the war against ISIS. But their politics and ambitions directly conflict with the policy of Mr. Erdogan, who considers Syrian Kurds to be allies of terrorist forces in Turkey. Turkey bears a significant portion of the blame for the continuing conflict with the PKK, the Kurdish organization that has been fighting the Turkish government since 1984. Nevertheless, if the U.S. wants Turkey’s help, it will have to address Turkish concerns about America’s alliance with Syrian Kurds more effectively.

It would be a mistake to be too pessimistic about the U.S.-Turkish alliance. While relations are frosty, the core interests of the two countries, which diverged after the collapse of the Soviet Union, are again closely aligned. The Russian-Iranian partnership now dominating Syria and upending the regional balance of power is Turkey’s worst nightmare come true. Turkish leaders know their country can’t counter this transformation without American support.

The Middle East coalition the Trump administration needs to rebuild must inevitably contain countries that don’t like or trust one another. Egypt and Saudi Arabia see Turkey’s support for the Muslim Brotherhood as a strategic threat. Mr. Erdogan and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu hold each other in contempt. The recent warming of relations between Israel and the Gulf states is both temporary and fragile.

The U.S., and only the U.S., can hold this coalition together. Without it, there is no viable path for containing Iran. Turkey is a key member of any realistic coalition to rebalance the Middle East; getting to yes with Mr. Erdogan is one of the administration’s most crucial challenges in the region.

Appeared in the March 13, 2018, print edition

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GPF: Turkey
« Reply #167 on: March 14, 2018, 06:16:09 PM »
Russia, Turkey, US: Three Russian warships have entered the Mediterranean in as many days. Meanwhile, Turkey and Russia are having high-level discussions aimed at improving their relationship. Turkey and the U.S. are also having high-level discussions, with recent news about the two countries moving toward some kind of understanding, though the departure of Rex Tillerson as U.S. secretary of state may affect the timeline. What is the trajectory for U.S.-Turkish relations? Does Russia’s deployment track with previous exercises they have conducted, or is this something new? And is it linked in any way to shifting relations in the region?


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JP: Turkey expands its operations in Syria and Iraq
« Reply #169 on: April 02, 2018, 04:21:51 PM »

The Sultan’s Pleasure: Turkey Expands its Operations in Syria and Iraq
by Jonathan Spyer
The Jerusalem Post
March 31, 2018
https://www.meforum.org/articles/2018/the-sultan’s-pleasure-turkey-expands-its-operatio

Turkish forces this month entered Afrin City, bringing Operation “Olive Branch,” launched on January 20, to a successful conclusion. Latest reports suggest that the Turks are now set to seek to enter the neighboring Kurdish-controlled town of Tal Rifaat, after reaching an agreement with the Russians allowing them to contest its control.
According to the pro-opposition Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, 78 Turkish soldiers were killed in the Afrin fighting, along with 437 Turkey-aligned Syrian Sunni rebels. SOHR puts Kurdish casualties as 1,500 killed in the operation.

All indications suggest that for Turkey, the recent battles were only a phase in a larger process. So where might Turkey turn next? And what is the goal of the Turkish campaign?

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said, following the fall of Afrin, that “we marked a comma. God willing, a full stop will come next…. Now we will continue this process, until we entirely eliminate this corridor, including in Manbij, Ayn al-Arab [Kobani], Tel-Abyad, Ras al-Ayn (Sere Kaniyeh) and Qamishli.”

These are the main towns of the Kurdish-controlled area further east. A Turkish push toward them would mean a comprehensive attempt to destroy the Kurdish autonomous zone that has been in existence east of the Euphrates since the withdrawal of Assad’s forces from the area in July 2012.

It would also mean the near certain prospect of a collision between Turkish and US forces. Officially, there are 2,000 US military personnel in the area. The real number is probably considerably larger, perhaps twice this figure. The US maintains a number of facilities east of the Euphrates. These are held in cooperation with the Syrian Democratic Forces, which is the US partner in the war against Islamic State, but which would also form the main element resisting a Turkish push eastward.

The town of Manbij is currently the main issue of contention. West of the Euphrates and with a mixed Arab and Kurdish population, it is nevertheless currently controlled jointly by the SDF and the Americans. Turkey has made clear that it intends to remove its Kurdish opponents from the town.

Given the extreme risks inherent in any such drive eastward, however, it appears more likely that Turkey will satisfy its immediate appetites for further strikes at its enemies elsewhere.

Despite Erdogan’s grammatical metaphors, the taking of Afrin did represent a kind of “full stop” for the Turks. It completed the acquisition by Ankara of a sizable, contiguous enclave in northwest Syria. The Afrin canton was a “missing piece” separating two areas of de facto Turkish control.

In Operation “Euphrates Shield” in late 2016, the Turks carved out an area of control between the towns of Azaz and Jarabulus along the Syrian-Turkish border.
Meanwhile, Turkish forces also entered northern Idlib province, which remains under the control of Sunni Islamist rebels.

The destruction of Afrin joins these two areas, giving Turkey a contiguous area of control, from Jarabulus to northern Idlib. The Turks have made clear they have no intention of handing these areas over to the Assad regime. So Ankara now has its own little bit of fragmented Syria, alongside the various enclaves of other powers.
This is of importance to Erdogan. He will be able to present himself as the champion of the Sunni Arab population of Syria, and the guarantor of the remnants of its rebellion against the Assad regime.

As the earliest and most consistent supporter of the Syrian Sunni rebellion, the Turkish leader stood to appear humiliated by the final eclipse of their cause. The Russians, by permitting the Turks and their rebel foot soldiers to enter Afrin, have allowed Erdogan to salvage some dignity from his situation. In affording him this concession (against the will of the Assad regime), Moscow has served its broader goal of drawing the Turks further away from their already severely eroded alliance with the West.
With their northwest Syrian enclave largely secured, and the area further east dangerous to approach, because of the American presence, there are indications that the Turks are looking further afield for further victories against the Kurds.

Turkish aircraft have in recent days been in action over the skies of northern Iraq, bombing what Ankara claims to be a presence of PKK guerrillas in the Qasr-e area of Erbil province. The Turkish military is presently engaged 15 km. across the border into the Kurdish Regional Government area, in the Sidakan area in northern Iraq.

Erdogan has threatened in recent days to carry out a military operation against PKK guerrillas located in the Sinjar Mountain area of northern Iraq. The fighters of this Kurdish organization have been in this area since the summer of 2014, when they opened a corridor to rescue Yazidi civilians trapped on the mountain by the advance of ISIS.

The PKK has announced its willingness to leave Sinjar and has begun to hand security facilities over to the local Yazidi YBS forces. Given the links between these forces and the PKK, however, it is not yet clear if this will be sufficient to prevent a Turkish incursion into the area.

There are those among the Iraqi Kurds who fear that these activities may presage a more general Turkish attempt to comprehensively root out and destroy Ankara’s PKK enemies in northern Iraq.

A larger-scale Turkish assault into Dohuk and Nineveh provinces to carve out an enclave between the Kurdish areas in Iraq and Syria is not an impossibility. But it would be carried out against the wishes of the US, Iran, and the government of Iraq, and may be too large a morsel for Turkey to attempt at the present time.
Nevertheless, the lower-level attacks on Kurdish targets in Iraq look set to continue and intensify.

Meanwhile, inside the area of Kurdish control in eastern Syria, a mysterious organization called Harakat al-Qiyam has carried out a number of attacks on individuals linked to the Kurdish-led authorities in recent months. Many observers calculate that this group may be backed by the Turks, constituting an irregular accompaniment to overt military action further east and west.

IN ALL three areas – the Afrin operation, the (alleged) links to Harakat al-Qiyam and the air activity and threatened incursion into Sinjar and northern Iraq – the contours and direction of Turkish activity are clear.

Ankara has set as a strategic goal to destroy the Kurdish gains that resulted from the fragmentation of Syria and Iraq over the last half decade. Turkey also wishes to present itself as the natural leader and patron of Sunni Arab communities in both countries.

In asserting these goals, Ankara will partner with or oppose other local powers (Iran, the government of Iraq, the Assad regime), according to immediate tactical needs. Similarly, Turkey is likely to tread carefully around the larger powers, whose will it cannot oppose (the US, Russia), seeking to draw neither too close nor too far away from either.

After the capture of Mosul from ISIS, speaking of Turkey’s activities in Iraq, Erdogan said, “We cannot draw boundaries to our heart, nor do we allow that.” The surrounding territories and populations in the nominal states of Syria and Iraq appear set to receive the full and heartfelt attention of Turkey, to the sound of revived Ottoman marching tunes – whether they like it or not.

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Turkey extends state of emergency, Calls early elections
« Reply #170 on: April 20, 2018, 08:47:05 AM »
Turkey again extends state of emergency
Turkish Parliament extends ongoing state of emergency for the seventh time.
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/244657

What is the 'emergency' in Turkey, that an elected leader wants greater power.
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One day later:

Erdogan announced that parliamentary and presidential elections, originally scheduled for November 2019 will now be held June 24, meaning that a new political system that will increase the powers of the president will take effect a year early.
http://time.com/5246214/erdogan-turkey-snap-election-june/

It vaguely reminds me of someone who went from Chancellor to Führer.

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Re: Turkey
« Reply #171 on: April 20, 2018, 04:55:28 PM »
we are seeing the rise of the strongman dictators again

Xi in China
this guy in Turkey

continuation of these guys in Venezuela and Kooba

More evidence of the failure of Obama


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Re: Turkey
« Reply #172 on: June 04, 2018, 03:38:10 AM »
I forget where but I saw an article this morning saying that Turkey was second only to Venezuela in % of millionaires leaving.

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Turkey: Serious Read
« Reply #173 on: June 19, 2018, 05:13:49 AM »
Long, serious article on Turkey.  Important and timely read.  Contested election coming up shortly.  Unknown who will win or if it will be honestly conducted and counted.  Erdogan has been consolidating power and also ending the separation of 'church' (Islam) and state.

http://strategypage.com/qnd/pothot/articles/20180613.aspx

Conclusion from the article:  "No one is sure how all this will end or when. Meanwhile, Turkey is going backward rather than forward and most Turks do not want, as Erdogan says he does, Turkey to become the leader of an Islamic coalition to destroy Israel and, presumably, create another Turkish empire."
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Re: Turkey, Erdogan "re-elected"
« Reply #175 on: June 27, 2018, 08:03:30 AM »
Amongst the good news around the world, some bad news with Putin, Maduro and Erdogan 'winning' elections along with an election coming up in Mexico.  Not all is well around the world.

https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2018/06/turkey-erdogan-still-faces-uphill-battle-despite-victory.html
"MHP has become the key party in parliament, which will provide the checks and balances to Erdogan’s rule."

I doubt that.

Is Turkey still our ally?  Is NATO still relevant?


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Re: Turkey
« Reply #176 on: June 27, 2018, 08:19:53 AM »
Is Turkey still our ally?  Is NATO still relevant?

Good question
he does work at times with Israel

The Kurds are screwed - again.

 

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Stratfor: Turkey's economy takes a tumble
« Reply #177 on: August 10, 2018, 04:57:48 PM »
Turkey's Economy Takes a Tumble. What's Next?

The Big Picture
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After recent elections, the biggest challenge for the Turkish government was stabilizing the worrisome economy. But poor U.S.-Turkey relations and investor uncertainty about Turkey's ability to stabilize its volatile economy have pushed its currency, the lira, to an all-time low. Its crash is pressing on the country's dollar-denominated debt and raising questions about whether President Recep Tayyip Erdogan will temper his political moves to allow room for economic stabilization.
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Turkey's Resurgence
What Happened?

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan spoke before the nation twice on Aug. 10, but the country's currency continued its descent, reaching about 6.4 lire per dollar, a decline of about 14.6 percent. At one point during the day, it had fallen more than 20 percent. Meanwhile, new Treasury and Finance Minister Berat Albayrak, also the president's son-in-law, previewed a new economic program for the country. The president — instead of reassuring the markets, whose collapsing confidence is one of the main drivers behind the lira's unprecedented depreciation — slammed Western countries and accused them of waging economic warfare on Turkey. He returned to his familiar refrain of urging Turks to use their reserves of dollars, euros and gold to buy up lire. The markets reacted swiftly, and the lira dropped even further. 

What Are the Government's Options?

Erdogan won re-election in June and has secured an empowered presidency, leaving him freer to confront the country's economic challenges. Municipal elections are not until April 2019. But the question is whether Erdogan has the political will, and the ideological inclination, to change course. 

The government has political and economic options at its disposal to try to calm the currency's volatility, to keep inflation — now about 15 percent but climbing — under control and to reassure investors. The economic options include a central bank intervention by raising interest rates, although this would have a temporary effect, and Erdogan is famously hesitant to raise rates. (The last substantial hike was in January 2018; before then, it was in late 2013, when Turkey was dealing with the end of the U.S. Federal Reserve's quantitative easing program.) The country could also place controls on capital, but those can hamper private sector activity and won't be easy considering the government's relative inability to totally control private capital.

Politically, Turkey's finance minister continues to try to say the right things, including that the country will embrace a tightened fiscal policy in the coming months to achieve the strategic goal of "economic balance." He has also promised to narrow Turkey's current account deficit. But Erdogan has consistently sandwiched every moderate statement by his son-in-law with nationalist and populist rhetoric that only undermines investor confidence. The president, after all, chose a family member to head this influential position for a reason. The prospects for Albayrak being able to pursue an independent economic policy to safeguard the autonomy of the Central bank do not appear good.

Will Diplomatic Tensions Heighten the Currency Challenge?

The United States and Turkey are already at loggerheads over trade, defense deals, the future of the U.S. mission in Syria and Ankara's warming ties with Russia. On the morning of Aug. 10, U.S. President Donald Trump intensified these divisions by tweeting that he had authorized a doubling of tariffs on Turkey's steel and aluminum, rising to 20 percent on aluminum and 50 percent on steel. 

Erdogan's nationalist campaign and Trump's "America First" policy clash perfectly. Trump's public announcement of tariffs will only fan Erdogan's economic warfare narrative, which puts the source of Turkey's economic woes outside its borders. Furthermore, consternation in the U.S. Congress has led to a nascent bill that could limit Turkey's ability to obtain loans from any U.S.-based financial institutions.

And some Turkish banks are already under U.S. scrutiny for transactions with Iran. With new Iran sanctions coming up, more Turkish banks could face U.S. probing if they are doing business with the Islamic republic.

Is a Bailout Coming?

While the International Monetary Fund has a history of lending a hand to Turkey, Erdogan is wary of the organization, creating barriers to a bailout. An IMF offer will come with strings attached — strings that Erdogan may find a violation of sovereignty — including demands to rein in the country's runaway inflation with higher interest rates. That move would collide with Erdogan's beliefs that see him consistently slamming interest rate hikes.

Another option is aid from other countries — possibly Qatar or China, an ally in the BRICS group. For China, stabilizing a fellow emerging economy's currency has value, but Beijing could also benefit from becoming an economic friend to a NATO state whose relationship with the West is increasingly strained. Erdogan could also entertain help from Qatar, but the benefits of such aid from Doha would be limited. 

Is There a Contagion in the Air?

Turkey is a major emerging market economy with $466 billion in foreign debt (about 78 percent in U.S. dollars and about 18 percent in euros), or 52.9 percent of gross domestic product. And more than one-third of that debt is coming due within the year. These looming payments are one of the main reasons for the government's fragility, because a weaker lira makes that debt more expensive to pay off. This situation has led the European Central Bank to sound alarm bells warning that Turkey's currency problems could infect Europe's banks. The central bank noted that Spain's BBVA, Italy's UniCredit and France's BNP Paribas all have significant exposure to Turkish debt and that a crashing lira could affect repayment of foreign currency loans. Spanish banks, in particular, are the most exposed, with over $80 billion in Turkish loans.
The lira's plummeting value, the potential for debt defaults, the possibility of a balance-of-payments crisis and rising inflation all represent clouds gathering ahead of an economic storm that could batter the country. In addition, there is little confidence that the government will pursue a policy that will ease the downturn.

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GPF: US-Turkey: Things ain't looking good
« Reply #178 on: August 13, 2018, 08:35:56 AM »
    Since the attempted coup against his government in July 2016, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has used the arbitrary arrest and imprisonment of U.S. citizens in Turkey as a tool for negotiating with Washington.
    In response, the United States will consider passing more damaging sanctions, in addition to the first wave it imposed in late July.
    The escalating dispute is just one of many issues — including Ankara's plans to deploy the Russian S-400 missile defense system — threatening the United States' alliance with Turkey.

In the wake of Turkey's latest elections, the country's relationships abroad are only getting rockier. The June 24 vote formally instated an executive presidential system, institutionalizing re-elected President Recep Tayyip Erdogan's one-man rule. At the same time, it has continued the deterioration of Turkey's relations with its partners and allies, foremost the United States. The ever-escalating diplomatic rupture, largely at Erdogan's hand, represents an abrupt departure from Turkey's national interests in favor of a personalized and impulsive foreign policy. Even if Washington and Ankara can resolve their immediate problems — such as the recent arrest of U.S. citizens in Turkey — the numerous, and multiplying, issues on which Turkey and the United States now disagree could be their relationship's undoing.
A Hostage Situation

In the last two years, the Turkish government has increasingly used the detainment of people with U.S. or dual citizenship to try to force the United States to give into its demands. The tactic is typically the preserve of adversarial states, such as Iran and North Korea, and not of strategic partners like Turkey, a NATO member. But since the attempted coup in July 2016, Erdogan has turned to it repeatedly. Ankara followed up the arrests of Andrew Brunson, an American evangelical pastor who has lived it Turkey for more than 20 years, and Serkan Golge, a Turkish-American scientist working for NASA, by imprisoning Turkish staff from various U.S. diplomatic missions. In each case, the government cited the detainee's alleged (and unsubstantiated) involvement in the failed coup or affiliation with the Gulen movement, the uprising's suspected instigator. Their trials and sentencing — Golge received a sentence of 7.5 years in prison in February, while Brunson is now under house arrest after officials released him from prison July 25 — exposed not only the president's influence over Turkey's judiciary but also the cases' political motivation.

The dubious charges of terrorism or subversion aside, the Turkish government's reason for holding these individuals is to bend Washington to its will. In return for Brunson's release, for example, Erdogan has explicitly demanded that the United States extradite Fethullah Gulen, the Muslim cleric allegedly responsible for the 2016 coup (though Turkey has failed to convince U.S. justice officials of Gulen's role in the revolt). Ankara probably intends to use the other prisoners as bargaining chips for other policy objectives: to encourage the United States to back off from supporting the Kurdish Democratic Union Party and People's Protection Units in Syria; to reduce the fine against state-owned Halkbank for violating U.S. sanctions against Iran; and to arrange early release for the bank's vice president, who was recently convicted in U.S. federal court for facilitating the sanctions violations.

Another interpretation of the detentions is that the Erdogan administration is using them to try to realize domestic policy goals. The Turkish president has been keen to arrest Gulen for the past five years because the exiled cleric has challenged his prerogative to rule. By reducing Halkbank's fine and securing the repatriation of its vice president, meanwhile, Erdogan could protect the bank and save face in light of his own involvement in and benefit from the sanctions evasion. Negotiations failed to achieve the desired results, prompting the Turkish government to try more aggressive tactics, regardless of their costs to the country's economy and international standing.
The Price of Strong-Arm Tactics

And the costs are starting to add up. Erdogan has managed to unify an otherwise fractured Washington against his administration's actions. At the end of July, the White House announced a first wave of sanctions against Turkey under the Magnitsky Act, a law that targets human rights abusers, originally Russian operatives close to the Kremlin. The measures banned Turkey's justice and interior ministers, identified as the parties mainly responsible for arbitrarily arresting U.S. citizens in the country, from entering the United States and seized their U.S. assets. But more than in their direct consequences, the effect of the sanctions lies in the stigma they carry. The measures have put Turkey in a league with the other countries the United States has deemed human rights violators, such as Nicaragua, Gambia, the Democratic Republic of the Congo and Russia. The economic repercussions have also been profound. Turkey's beleaguered currency, the lira, lost more than 6 percent of its value in less than a week, while treasury bond yields rose to 22 percent. What's more, these sanctions are only the first among a variety of punishments that the United States can and is willing to use in turn against its ally Turkey.

Erdogan's attempts to goad the U.S. government into compliance with his wishes has left Turkey with few allies in Washington willing to publicly defend it.

If Erdogan digs in, the U.S. Congress is prepared to respond with legislation to direct international credit agencies such as the World Bank and the European Bank of Reconstruction and Development from extending loans to Turkey. Given the country's economic turmoil, Turkey will probably need that kind of assistance sooner than later. The United States could then remove Turkey from the SWIFT international money transfer system, a move that would have devastating consequences for Turkish banks, and perhaps even for Erdogan's continuity as president. It's important to remember, however, that the backlash is of Erdogan's own making. He could have avoided it entirely were it not for his attempts to goad the U.S. government into compliance with his wishes. This strategy has left Turkey with few allies in Washington willing to publicly defend it.
The Crises Yet to Come

Along with the immediate crises in their relationship, the United States and Turkey will soon have other problems to deal with. To the extent that Turkey pushes ahead with the purchase of the Russian S-400 missile defense system, it will likely interfere with its purchase of U.S. F-35 fighter jets, for which it has already paid $1 billion. A delegation of U.S. senators told Erdogan in no uncertain terms during a visit to Ankara in July that the U.S. Congress would block the transfer of the F-35s if his country deployed the S-400.

Then there's the matter of the renewed sanctions against Iran. U.S. President Donald Trump's administration has declared that it will block any country that defies the measures from doing business in the United States. For Turkey, which depends entirely on imports to meet its fossil fuel needs, the return of sanctions on Iranian energy exports in November will require a decision: Fall in line with the United States or face the consequences. Washington is unlikely to grant Ankara a waiver to continue importing oil and natural gas from Iran, simply because it has no reason to. But since Turkey has bad relationships with alternative fuel suppliers such as Iraq and Saudi Arabia, it may well opt to keep buying from Iran.

Together, the various disagreements between the United States and Turkey are driving the two allies apart at a rapid pace. Turkey and the United States have weathered many diplomatic and military rifts over the years, thanks in large part to mutual trust and a desire to overcome their differences, as well as to effective communication between the countries' leaders. Today, by contrast, Washington and Ankara have lost much of the goodwill that once kept them from falling out. Resolving their more pressing problems, such as the Brunson issue, may not be enough to salvage their partnership.

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Stratfor: What's behind the release of the pastor
« Reply #183 on: October 12, 2018, 02:32:07 PM »
What Happened

The man at the center of a political tug of war between the United States and Turkey is finally going free. A Turkish court sentenced Andrew Brunson, an American evangelical pastor who has been in prison on terrorism charges since 2016, to three years in prison on Oct. 12 — only to order his release on time served. The court further lifted an overseas travel ban for Brunson, paving the way for his return to the United States and prompting a celebratory tweet from U.S. President Donald Trump.
Why It Matters

The significance of Brunson's release is manifold: The pastor's fate was one of the few issues in which Ankara possessed leverage over Washington, but Turkey's decision to release him indicates that the country wishes for some U.S. overtures on other issues. And ahead of next month's midterm elections in the United States, Brunson's release is likely to buoy Republican lawmakers with large evangelical bases of support, as they can portray his release as an example of the White House's deep involvement in evangelical interests.

Though Turkish leaders have portrayed the release as a mere judicial matter, Ankara ultimately permitted Brunson to go free because it wishes to calm its fragile economy after the Turkish lira fell in part because the United States imposed sanctions on Turkey in August over the pastor's continued detention. Not only will Brunson's release end the pretext for further U.S. sanctions on Turkey over the pastor’s case (though Turkey could face scrutiny in the future over other files like Iran-related sanctions) but it will also facilitate continued U.S.-Turkish economic trade and investment.

Turkey is also seeking continued cooperation in Syria with the United States, as well as assurances that Washington is doing what it can to assist Ankara with concerns related to national security, such as the Gulen movement and the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK). The United States already has demonstrated its hesitation at extraditing Fethullah Gulen, a Pennsylvania-based Turkish theologian whom Ankara has accused of masterminding a July 2016 coup attempt, but it could provide hints of flexibility on the Islamic scholar. At the same time, the United States has already expressed increased concern about PKK-linked attacks in Turkey. The United States will also seek Turkey's commitment to enforcing U.S. sanctions on Iran-related trade.

Background

Before the Oct. 12 court hearing, a number of signs suggested that Brunson's release was imminent, including that U.S. officials told reporters that they anticipated the pastor's release based on negotiations between U.S. and Turkish officials. Some of the witnesses against the pastor subsequently shifted their testimony, while pro-government newspapers dispensed with the "terrorist" moniker for Brunson in favor of the more neutral "pastor." Taken together, Brunson's releases points to the success of the behind-the-scenes negotiations, as well as the value Ankara ultimately places in its ties with Washington.

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Turkey vs. Saudi Arabia
« Reply #184 on: November 05, 2018, 04:39:02 AM »
Why Turkey Isn't Burning Bridges With Saudi Arabia Over Khashoggi
President Recep Tayyip Erdogan speaks about the slaying of Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi during a weekly parliamentary address on Oct. 23 in Ankara.
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    The fallout from the Khashoggi affair underlines a larger battle between Turkey and Saudi Arabia for influence throughout the Sunni world that will continue in the religious, political and economic spheres.
    Turkey may be trying to use its muted response to coax Saudi Arabia into stopping its cooperation with Iraqi and Syrian Kurds, or possibly into to reducing Saudi economic pressure on Qatar, Turkey's major regional ally.
    Their slowly growing defense and economic ties will mitigate the chances of a complete rupture between Ankara and Riyadh.

For weeks, allegations of criminality and a cover-up have consumed the Turkish media after Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi was killed at Riyadh's consulate in Istanbul on Oct. 2. Three weeks later, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan told parliament that Saudi authorities had planned the dissident's slaying. Erdogan has a penchant for bombast, but the speech was understated, and the president even issued a cordial appeal to Saudi King Salman to cooperate in exposing the truth in the Khashoggi affair. Conspicuously, Erdogan elected not to mention the elephant in the room: Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, who is widely believed to have played a role in the killing.

The Big Picture

Among the major states of the Middle East, Turkey and Saudi Arabia are rivals competing for dominance in the Sunni Muslim world. The fallout over the violent death of a Saudi journalist in Turkey has given Ankara some leverage against Riyadh, which it will use carefully.
See Rebalancing Power in the Middle East
See The Saudi Survival StrategySee Turkey's Resurgence

The speech and the steady leak of information from Turkish authorities strengthen the view that Erdogan is trying to carefully pressure Saudi Arabia, whose worldview and regional policies are at odds with Turkey's. Erdogan isn't going so far as to risk destroying relations with Saudi Arabia — especially given the prospect that the crown prince could emerge from the scandal — but if international pressure against the crown prince rises, Erdogan is well-positioned to join in the campaign. For the moment, Turkey is seeking to alter the balances within the Saudi royal family by emphasizing that the king is a credible partner while explicitly questioning who instigated the killing, all without mentioning the crown prince by name.

The antagonism between the crown prince and the president is mutual. In comments earlier this year to the Egyptian press, the crown prince called Turkey, Iran and political Islam an "axis of evil." Basically, the two leaders are revisiting a familiar history of Saudi-Turkish rivalry, which goes back decades. Economic priorities might prevent each side from damaging an otherwise productive relationship, but that doesn't mean each won't try to capitalize on the other's moments of weakness and public relations stumbles — particularly in the way Turkey appears to building leverage against Saudi Arabia in the Khashoggi killing.

Who Leads the Sunni World?

At its core, the conflict is driven by their differing political visions for the Sunni world, as well as the struggle between the visions to get the upper hand. For Saudi Arabia, which is the custodian of Islam's two holiest cities, Turkey's challenge is seen as an attack on the legitimacy of the Saud family as rulers. For Turkey, whose sultans once held the same cities as the caliphs of the Sunni world, it is an opportunity to secure soft power in the Muslim world for decades to come.

At its core, the conflict between Saudi Arabia and Turkey is driven by their differing political visions for the Sunni world.

The question of leadership in the Sunni world has been in flux since the nascent Turkish Republic abolished the caliphate in 1924. In the republican Turkish view, it is authentic expressions of Islamic thought, as espoused by morally upright Muslim citizens, that ought to guide and rule the Sunni world. The Saudis, in contrast, believe that traditional and clear hierarchies, with authority vested in Riyadh-appointed members of the ulama (Muslim clerics), should guide the Sunni world. In essence, Turkey posits that the legitimacy for leadership comes from the grassroots authenticity of everyday Muslims, while Saudi Arabia claims that it is based on the hierarchy of tradition.

This worldview explains Riyadh's abhorrence of movements like the Muslim Brotherhood, which holds views similar to Turkey and which has received political protection from Ankara. Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood, for example, has operated out of Turkey since Gen. Abdel Fattah al-Sisi seized power from Mohammed Morsi, a member of the group, in 2013. Turkey's worldview appeals to Muslims anywhere who believe that it is not tradition or social deference that must determine leadership, but commitment to the Islamic faith.

This is a direct political threat to the Saudi royal family's legitimacy; the more Saudis are exposed to such thinking, the more they may question the tribal-cum-wasta ("influence") social contract that underpins much of the monarchy's authority. While the Saudis also claim to be pursuing true and authentic representations of Islam, their insistence on royal privilege and prerogative opens them to criticism that their religious scruples are not as consistent as they say. This creates a soft power contest between the two, and Riyadh hopes to keep this Turkish-derived influence as far away from Saudi subjects as possible.
Rival Camps

Because Turkey and Saudi Arabia view themselves as the Muslim world's pre-eminent Sunni powers, they are broadly aligned on many foreign policy issues. For instance, both countries want to contain the spread of Iranian hegemony in the region, perceiving Persian power as a threat to their own ability to lead the Middle East and the Muslim world. This makes the two powers natural allies to the United States' growing efforts to contain Iran's influence. Washington's increasing reliance on the two to help contain Iran rests on existing U.S. dependence on the pair to bolster regional counterterrorism efforts. Both Saudi Arabia and Turkey have, after all, committed to fighting the Islamic State alongside the United States.

But despite their broad alignment on Iran, Ankara and Riyadh have very different relationships with Tehran. While Saudi Arabia avoids as much contact with Iran as possible, Turkey shares a border and an economic and strategic relationship with the country. This might expose Turkey to certain risks (for instance, the risk of suffering harsher U.S. sanctions on Iran in the coming months and years if Turkish companies continue to trade with Iranian entities), but it also provides Ankara a certain freedom to maneuver that Riyadh does not enjoy, such as in the Syria conflict. Moreover, Turkey and Iran's shared border and large Kurdish populations also give the pair common cause to contain Kurdish separatism.

Turkey and Saudi Arabia further have an interest in supporting the same political causes across the Sunni world, albeit from different angles. The two countries support Palestinian statehood but have pursued contrasting approaches to economic and political aid for the community. Turkey is closer to Hamas, a Muslim Brotherhood offshoot that rules Gaza, while Saudi Arabia primarily backs Fatah, the Palestinian faction that controls the West Bank and which is hostile toward Hamas. Turkey is also publicly healing its rift with Israel, which will broaden its ability to extend support to the Palestinians, at a time when Saudi Arabia has kept its ties with Israel as quiet as possible while expressing public support for the Palestinian cause.

Turkey and Saudi Arabia have also staunchly opposed Syrian President Bashar al Assad throughout most of the Syrian civil war, but they have supported different rebel groups in the conflict. In this, Saudi Arabia's recent support for the Syrian Kurds has particularly irked Turkey, which view such rebel groups as terrorists.
Competition and Conflict

The Iranian-Saudi rivalry has attracted much attention, but the Turkish-Saudi rivalry — nuanced though it is — is also producing real policy effects, drawing regional Sunni countries into either the Ankara or Riyadh camp. Because Turkey's political model threatens governments such as Egypt and the United Arab Emirates, the two states have aligned themselves with Saudi Arabia's regional endeavors. But other Sunni governments, such as Qatar, have grown closer to Turkey because Doha supports Islamist politics as a means of forming deeper connections to global Muslim communities. A few, such as Jordan and Lebanon, try to benefit from both.

Further afield in Africa, the two powers have sought to build the political, religious, economic and security influence that could bolster political legitimacy on the continent. In the Horn of Africa and across North Africa, both countries are opportunistic, taking advantage of political openings, as in Somalia, where Turkey supports political forces opposed to rivals backed by Riyadh and Abu Dhabi. In Tunisia, Turkey has tried to support the Islamist Ennahda party to help it counter more secularist parties, prompting Saudi Arabia's (somewhat unsuccessful) efforts to back the latter. Saudi Arabia has also sought to weaken Turkey's ability to make Africa an export market by undercutting Turkish efforts with donations or investments. By strengthening African economies, Saudi Arabia can help give them the strength to push for a harder bargain with Turkey or to seek imports from elsewhere.

As rivals, Turkey and Saudi Arabia have found ways to needle each other at points of weakness. Because preventing the development of an autonomous Kurdish polity is Turkey's primary security objective, Ankara is increasingly nervous about Saudi and Gulf efforts to connect with Kurds in Iraq and Syria. Saudi Arabia also deeply opposes Turkey's support for Qatar, which helped provide a political and security lifeline at the beginning of the June 2017 blockade. Riyadh especially wants to prevent Ankara from bolstering its military presence in Qatar. What's more, the two have also supported different communities within the crowded and complex political spectrum in Lebanon, in some ways inflaming Beirut's political problems.

Neither Turkey nor Saudi Arabia has a significant interest in stirring political waters that could upend valuable economic ties.

Economic Ties

Despite the rivalry, Saudi Arabia and Turkey's burgeoning economic ties might mitigate the possibility of a serious rift — particularly in the realm of defense. Turkish-Saudi defense collaboration began in September 2013, when the two countries ratified a cooperation agreement. Late in 2017, Aselsan Corp., one of Turkey's most important defense companies, formed a joint venture with Saudi Arabia's Taqnia called Saudi Defense Electronics Co. (SADEC), which focuses primarily on electronics, including jammers, radars, electronic warfare suites and infrared receivers. As part of the joint venture, Aselsan and Taqnia have commenced construction on a factory in Saudi Arabia.

Turkey has not yet made any major arms sales to Saudi Arabia, although Ankara has been negotiating the sale of unmanned aerial vehicles to Saudi Arabia and has entertained hopes of selling its Altay tank, as well as other weapons and equipment. Because bilateral defense ties remain in their infancy, a serious rift between Turkey and Saudi Arabia would not upend any current arms deals, but it would certainly hinder Ankara's ambitions of expanding into the lucrative Saudi market, meaning neither side would benefit from a profound rupture in relations.

In terms of trade, the relationship is not massive (the two conducted just $4.7 billion in largely balanced trade last year), yet both governments have pledged to increase trade and investment in sectors that matter to both. Accordingly, neither country has a significant interest in stirring political waters that could upend valuable economic ties. Turkish construction firms, which represent a strategic sector for Ankara, have won contracts to build Saudi Arabian housing projects — the number of which is set to grow substantially under Riyadh's Vision 2030. Saudi tourists, whose numbers have also been increasing yearly, have also buoyed the Turkish economy by spending big when visiting Turkey. Saudi citizens have also been at the forefront of a campaign to gobble up Turkish real estate, highlighting just how important the kingdom's customers are to the economic sector for Ankara. (Naturally, some of Riyadh's influence over Ankara through the real estate market is mitigated by the $1 billion in investments that Qatar, an even bigger foe of Saudi Arabia, has made in Turkey's housing market in the past three years.)
Keeping Calm, for Now

For now, Riyadh is playing it safe with Ankara as it tries to defuse the Khashoggi crisis. So what, ultimately, does Turkey want as it dangles the journalist's case over Saudi Arabia? Economically, Turkey could be quietly soliciting Saudi financial support in exchange for an end to the media pressure on the crown prince or it might even be soliciting some diplomatic relief for Doha, which remains under the Gulf Cooperation Council's blockade. Politically and security-wise, Turkey is also seeking a channel to contain Saudi support for the Kurds.

Ultimately, however, much of the Saudi-Turkish rivalry fits into the political and soft power spheres, in which personalities like Mohammed bin Salman and Erdogan compete for prestige and Ankara and Riyadh attempt to win the hearts and minds of the Sunni world. For now, Turkey appears to see the benefit in not rocking the boat with Saudi Arabia— but that's no guarantee that it won't change its mind.

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GPF: Trump looking to cough up Gulen?!?
« Reply #185 on: November 16, 2018, 01:05:50 PM »
I confess I think this idea weak and the second time Trump has looked weak in this regard-- with the first being when Erdogan had his people beat up peaceful protestors
(many of whom were Kurds) in front of the Turkish embassy in Washington DC and Trump did nothing.
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By Jacob L. Shapiro


Gulen Revisited


The U.S. reportedly wants to trade an exiled cleric for better relations with Turkey.


Hoping to ease Turkish pressure on Saudi Arabia following the death of Saudi critic Jamal Khashoggi in Istanbul, the United States is exploring legal options to extradite Turkish cleric Fethullah Gulen to Turkey, according to NBC News, which cited four sources, including two unnamed senior U.S. officials. The Trump administration reportedly directed federal law enforcement agencies to look into extraditing Gulen last month, but to no avail.

The report has set off a media firestorm in Turkey, which has accused Gulen of masterminding the 2016 attempted coup against President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and of leading a global terrorist organization. A U.S. State Department spokesperson denied the report but stipulated that the U.S. continues to evaluate Turkey’s requests regarding the exiled cleric. Lost in the melodrama is that if the United States followed through on this extradition – which the executive branch cannot do unilaterally – problems in U.S.-Turkey relations will endure.

Power Tussles in the Middle East

U.S. and Turkish strategic objectives in the Middle East are imperfectly aligned. The United States wants to contain Iran and destroy Islamism (as embodied by the Islamic State), while Turkey aspires to become the dominant regional power and quash Kurdish separatism. In its fight against the Islamic State, the United States is partnered with a Syrian Kurdish militia that Turkey claims is affiliated with the Kurdistan Workers’ Party terrorist group. Ankara is more interested in moderating and harnessing Islamism as currency to project Turkish soft power in the region. Turkey is also quietly looking to fill the influence vacuum left as the U.S. and its allies work to hobble Iran. These incongruent regional interests have led to tensions in relations between the U.S. and Turkey.

The notion that extraditing Gulen would assuage Turkish anger at Saudi Arabia over the Khashoggi affair is nonsensical: It misunderstands Turkey’s intentions and goals. Turkey has made such a big deal out of the Saudi journalist’s murder not to champion freedom of the press, but because it is a low-cost way to weaken a key rival. By feeding the media an endless stream of leaks on the newest, grisliest details of Khashoggi’s killing, Turkey is putting pressure on both the Saudi regime and the U.S.-Saudi relationship.

Why Gulen, Why Now?

Washington would like a better, stronger relationship with Turkey and sees extraditing Gulen as a goodwill gesture. In a vacuum, the exchange of a Muslim cleric living in Pennsylvania, even one with a Green Card, for a more cooperative Turkey would be beneficial for Washington’s Middle East strategy. But while the Trump administration might be more willing than the previous administration to offer Gulen up to Turkey, the process of extraditing him isn’t that simple – to say nothing of the political ill-will the U.S. would attract for doing so. Turkey’s extradition treaty with the United States clearly states that extradition cannot be granted “for an offense of a political character or on account of [the accused’s] political opinions.” There is a reason the Trump administration is reportedly seeking legal ways to remove Gulen – an executive order on its own will not do the trick.

Even if the Trump administration manages to navigate the legal hurdles, it would be trading Gulen only for a media cycle’s worth of plaudits. The problems in the U.S.-Turkey relationship are structural and rooted in divergent interests. Individuals like Fethullah Gulen are minor figures in a much larger story: the slow decoupling of U.S. and Turkish interests in the Middle East.

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Gladstone Institute: Conflict Contained, not resolved
« Reply #186 on: November 21, 2018, 04:28:11 AM »
The S-400 purchase and possible sanctions of Turkish bank bear watching:

Turkey and US: Conflict Contained, Not Resolved
by Burak Bekdil
Gatestone Institute
November 20, 2018
https://www.meforum.org/articles/2018/contact-turkey-and-us-conflict-contained,-not-res

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Stratfor: Turkey vs. its Kurds
« Reply #187 on: December 26, 2018, 03:54:33 AM »
Witnessing the War of Symbols in Eastern Turkey
People hold pictures depicting victims of the Dersim operation in the 1930s, behind a placard marking the 79th anniversary of the genocide during a demonstration on May 4, 2016 in Istanbul.
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    Turkish authorities have clamped down hard on municipalities run by the country's largest pro-Kurdish party, assuming direct control and arresting dozens of mayors.
    Some residents hope municipal elections in March 2019 will offer a return to democracy, although President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has said he will not tolerate victories by the main Kurdish party.
    Because the Kurdish issue has spread beyond Turkey's borders, events throughout the Middle East will ultimately have a bearing on the relationship between the Turks and the Kurds in Anatolia.

 

I'm not the world's best driver, but I've always managed to pay due care to avoid running red lights. I lost that distinction, however, during a recent trip to Turkey's east: The thing was, driving down the main thoroughfare in the province of Tunceli was no longer a straightforward exercise. Where standard lampposts had once lit the way come night, hundreds of red-light tulips, adorned with the Turkish flag, now lined the avenue. With the street awash in red, differentiating between the red lights of the traffic system and the red lights of the Turkish state was a tall order — one that I failed, albeit without any further ramifications.
A Different Walk in the Park

In politics, symbolism matters. The tulips — that most Ottoman and Turkish of symbols — are just a small aspect of the changes occurring in Turkey's east and southeast since a peace process between Ankara and the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) collapsed in summer 2015. The return to arms has killed thousands, resulted in the detention of thousands more and erased whole neighborhoods off the map as the Turkish state has sought to clamp down on Kurdish ambitions, whether within its own borders or beyond in Syria and Iraq as part of what it terms an anti-terrorist fight.

The crackdown has engendered a climate of fear and suspicion in places like Tunceli, a small town nestled in the mountains of eastern Turkey. (The town was officially known by the Kurdish name of Dersim until Ankara gave it the Turkish name of Tunceli in 1935, three years before beginning an operation to subdue a rebellion in the area, resulting in the deaths of at least 10,000 people. Mindful of this history, many residents continue to call the town Dersim.) Foreigners rarely venture to the town, and on all my previous visits, I was greeted with warmth and curiosity. Not so this time, as most locals mistook my foreign appearance as a sign that I was an undercover police officer from elsewhere in Turkey.
Photograph of the Munzur River in the village of Ziyaret, in Tunceli's Ovacik district.

The village of Ziyaret in Tunceli's Ovacik district. The Munzur River (pictured) starts in the village and runs around 70 kilometers (44 miles) to Tunceli.
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In places like Tunceli, the Turkish government has removed — and frequently arrested — mayors from the pro-Kurdish Peoples' Democratic Party (HDP), replacing them with hand-picked trustees who answer solely to Ankara. Indeed, after the peace process collapsed between Ankara and the PKK, Turkish authorities also moved to restrict the space for legal Kurdish politics as part of its anti-terrorism fight. According to a Dec. 11 report from the HDP, authorities have incarcerated 15 of the party's current or former lawmakers, removed HDP mayors from 94 municipalities, jailed 50 mayors and arrested or detained a further 2,000 party members or supporters — the last all in 2018 alone. Tunceli's trustee, Tuncay Sonel — who also doubles as the province's unelected governor — has embarked on a number of projects to transform the city since his appointment in January 2017. But while some initiatives pleased everyone, the symbolism behind the changes has left many locals uneasy.
The Munzur River runs past the town of Ovacik in Turkey's eastern province of Tunceli.

The Munzur River runs past the town of Ovacik in Turkey's eastern province of Tunceli.
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Venturing back into the city for the first time in eight months, my Tunceli-born wife and I were certainly not prepared for the symbolic changes. In addition to the tulip lights, the trustee had opened a new park in the neighborhood: the July 15 Martyrs' Park. As we passed an armored personnel carrier (APC) standing guard at the entrance, we first encountered a small mosque (an anomaly in this town of 30,000 in which the majority of residents are Alevis, a religious community that does not attend the mosque) before entering a green space featuring a newly planted rose for each person killed in the July 15, 2016, coup attempt.

While the memorial might be fitting elsewhere in Turkey, the park's name and its roses are provocative in a place like Tunceli, most of whose residents see little difference between President Recep Tayyip Erdogan's Justice and Development Party (AKP) and members of the Gulenist movement, the alleged perpetrators of the coup attempt. As the AKP has subsequently used the failed putsch as a symbol to buttress its power, the opening of a park glorifying the victims of the coup attempt feels like an imposition of Erdogan's vision for Turkey, Tunceli residents told me.

We left the July 15 Martyrs' Park behind and proceed further up the main road — renamed the July 15 Martyrs' Avenue — toward the town center. There, along the river bank, other changes were afoot. Gone were the treed areas that provided shade during the long hot summers; in their place were two bridges festooned with Turkish flags, alongside a construction site for an Ottoman-themed restaurant, a mosque and other public facilities geared toward the thousands of police officers and soldiers that have been deployed to the area in recent years.
The burnt-out remains of vehicles that were torched at a Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) checkpoint between Tunceli and Ovacik in 2015.

The burnt-out remains of vehicles that were torched at a Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) checkpoint between Tunceli and Ovacik in 2015. As the peace process collapsed, the PKK would frequently destroy the vehicles of those it viewed as collaborators with the Turkish state.
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"It's as if this is another country and they won a war," one woman told me, referring to the bridges lined with flags. Weaving our way past APCs on patrol along the river bank, my wife and I stopped for a beer at a local cafe. Motioning toward the bridges, our waiter said, "No one here likes what's happening, but no one can do anything about it." It was a sentiment shared by many in the town: With the space to protest in Turkey severely limited, locals feel helpless in the face of what has been happening in the city. Some hope for changes when Turkish citizens elect new mayors on March 31, 2019, but the prospect of new elections might prove to be a mirage for people in Kurdish areas like Tunceli. After all, Erdogan has already promised to appoint trustees once more if "people who have engaged in terrorism win at the ballot box" — suggesting that authorities will not allow the HDP to assume the municipality if it wins the area in three months' time.

A banner in Ovacik belonging to the now-closed Democratic Rights Federation reads "Fighting against the massacre of nature and policies of assimilation is not a crime."
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For some, the only hope of salvation is a complete economic meltdown in Turkey, as it would presumably deprive Erdogan of funds to wage his campaign in the east. I spoke with one civil servant, a local urban planner, who felt Ankara would only halt its policies of assimilation and its military operations in the mountains around Tunceli if the lira's value fell so sharply that Ankara simply couldn't afford to foot the bill anymore.
A Journey to the "Capital"

In Tunceli, military helicopters may buzz constantly overhead as they head to battle militants in the mountains, but fighting has not occurred in the city since the peace process ended. It's a different story 224 kilometers south in Diyarbakir, a city of around 2 million people that is only half-jokingly called "the capital," as it's the largest Kurdish-majority metropolis in Turkey. I met a friend there, a teacher, and after the obligatory tea we went to the city's UNESCO-recognized walls — some of the longest such fortifications in the world.
A street scene from Diyarbakir's Sur neighborhood in 2007.

A street scene from Diyarbakir's Sur neighborhood in 2007.
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"Do you want to see what it looks like now?" he asked, referring to the neighborhood of Sur, which lies — or better yet, lay — behind Diyarbakir's impressive basalt walls. I did, even though I was worried about what I would see from the top of the walls. We duly scrambled over a fence police had erected to prevent the curious from climbing the walls to survey Sur.

The pictures I'd viewed before hadn't prepared for me for the sight below. Where once there had been a lively warren of narrow streets, there was now a barren wasteland. In the distance, construction workers were building new housing developments that would bear little resemblance to the houses that once stood there.

Sur, a multicultural area that features the largest Armenian church in the Middle East, was destroyed in intense fighting between the Turkish state and local youth affiliated with the PKK starting in 2015. In the end, the Turkish state's superior firepower won the day, allowing Ankara to conquer the area. Aside from the military aspect, Ankara also appointed trustees to the local municipalities who quickly got down to work, removing the city's Kurdish name, Amed, from the city hall, taking down Kurdish street signs and bulldozing public artwork infused with Kurdish symbolism.
Authorities are now constructing new developments on the barren territory of Sur.

Fighting between Turkish forces and locals linked to the PKK has resulted in the near-total destruction of Sur. Authorities are now constructing new developments on the barren territory.
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So where do the Kurds go from here? Through military strength, the Turkish state has captured areas of the east that rose up in revolt in 2015. At least on its own soil, Turkish forces have beaten back the PKK (around Tunceli, many people attributed the militants' lack of activity to government drones rather than full-scale military assaults) and imposed heavy-handed rule. For Kurds — and indeed any opponent to the current Turkish government — protest is difficult. Even so, it hardly seems like now is the end of the story. Far more draconian Turkish policies suppressed, but did not eliminate, the Kurdish movement in the 1990s.

More than that, however, the Kurdish struggle is no longer a phenomenon confined to Turkey; Kurdish ambitions are now an indelible aspect of the Syrian civil war, while the Kurdistan Regional Government has gained a measure of international recognition as an autonomous actor in Iraq — its ill-fated bid for independence notwithstanding. Given that, it's not just Ankara that will determine what happens in places like Tunceli or Diyarbakir, but the larger forces reshaping the Middle East.


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Turkey answers: "FY"
« Reply #189 on: March 07, 2019, 08:18:34 AM »
Turkey: We're buying S-400. The purchase of advanced Russian anti-aircraft missiles is a "done deal," Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan told a TV news station Wednesday. That follows a warning by NATO's supreme commander, U.S. Army Gen. Curtis Scaparrotti, who told lawmakers on Tuesday that Ankara should not be allowed to also buy the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter. Scaparrotti is worried that the S-400 might send Russia information about NATO's latest jet.
Eject Ankara from the F-35?: "This is no small thing. Turkey is the largest Tier 3 partner in the F-35 program and has contributed close to $200 million to the fifth-generation fighter jet's development," wrote Selim Sazak and Caglar Kurc last year in Defense One. "If the crisis escalates further, it is likely to have severe reverberations."

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Turkish drilling in Cyprus waters
« Reply #190 on: May 06, 2019, 10:00:31 AM »
Turkey in the Eastern Mediterranean. On a visit to North Cyprus on Saturday, Turkey’s foreign minister said his country would conduct drilling operations inside Cyprus’ exclusive economic zone. The European Union and the United States joined Cyprus in issuing statements of concern and calling on Turkey to halt all drilling operations, but Turkey’s defense minister doubled down on Sunday, saying that Turkey would “always protect the rights of the people of Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus.” This is a long-running dispute, but as we noted in our 2019 forecast, Turkey has better reasons than ever to be more assertive in the Eastern Mediterranean. Even as U.S. national security adviser John Bolton attempts to make a routine U.S. naval deployment in the Middle East look like a threatening gesture toward Iran, the U.S. faces a more assertive and powerful challenge in NATO ally Turkey, who is not going to back down because of a few strongly worded statements.

The Turkish lira under pressure. We’ve been writing about Turkey’s external debt problem since December 2017. After the Turkish lira took a nosedive in October 2018, Turkey was able to stabilize the currency with a number of confidence-boosting monetary measures, but the underlying external debt problem has not gone anywhere. The currency is now at its lowest point on the dollar in seven months and today fell below six liras on the dollar. In the past, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has tried to use the currency’s weakness as a rallying cry against “economic terrorism” from foreigners, but the lira’s slide continues. Now the question is how much more time Turkey can buy before this enters crisis territory again.

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MEF: Turkey-EU a doomed engagement
« Reply #191 on: May 06, 2019, 01:48:59 PM »

 



Turkey and the EU: A Doomed Engagement
by Burak Bekdil
BESA Center Perspectives
April 28, 2019
https://www.meforum.org/58367/turkey-eu-doomed-engagement
 
Two decades ago, the big question in Brussels and Ankara was, "Will Turkey one day become a full member of the EU?" A decade ago, it was, "How soon can Turkey become a full member?" Today, the question is simpler: "Will it be Turkey or the EU that puts an official end to this opera buffa?"
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Re: Turkey
« Reply #193 on: July 10, 2019, 07:06:19 AM »
President Recep Tayyip Erdogan risks pushing Turkey's economy into an economic collapse similar to those seen in Latin America under populist regimes.
Despite Ankara's assertions to the contrary, the nation is lurching toward capital controls and nationalization, head of research Jan Dehn said. "Politicians who go down the heterodox route rarely change tack and they almost always end in crisis.”
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-07-09/turkey-seen-heading-for-latin-style-economic-calamity-by-ashmore

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Re: Turkey
« Reply #194 on: July 10, 2019, 10:46:52 PM »
At the moment it appears like Erdogan is proceeding with the Russian missiles at the cost of the US F-35s.

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Re: F 35 not going to Turkey : they are buying missile defense from USSR
« Reply #196 on: July 17, 2019, 09:10:06 AM »
https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2019/07/17/no-deal-trump-cancels-sale-of-u-s-f-35-fighter-jets-to-turkey/

Odd a member of Nato is buying systems from the enemy.

NATO in name only, unfortunately.

Walter Russell Mead who I respect says we should be careful not to drive Turkey into Russia's camp.  As they convert to an islamist dictatorship and turn away from us, I don't see how it is US driving them away. Still it might be better to have them on the fence Bambi a complete enemy. Bad and worse look to be our options.

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Re: Turkey
« Reply #197 on: July 17, 2019, 12:40:40 PM »
"Walter Russell Mead who (sic) I respect says we should be careful not to drive Turkey into Russia's camp."

Turkey has skillfully played its hand in this regard.  For example, it holds control to the Bosphorus (sp?) which determines much of the value of Russia's seizure of Crimea and the Sea of Aznar for getting into the Mediterranean.

That said, there comes a point where Turkey pushes too far-- exposing F-35 technology to the Russians crosses that line for me , , ,  Do we really want an Article 5 NATO relationship with what Turkey has become and what it may provoke in the the Syrian maelstrom?

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Re: Turkey
« Reply #198 on: July 17, 2019, 06:38:18 PM »
It would make more sense to have Russia in NATO at this point. Although NATO is long past it’s sell by date.

"Walter Russell Mead who (sic) I respect says we should be careful not to drive Turkey into Russia's camp."

Turkey has skillfully played its hand in this regard.  For example, it holds control to the Bosphorus (sp?) which determines much of the value of Russia's seizure of Crimea and the Sea of Aznar for getting into the Mediterranean.

That said, there comes a point where Turkey pushes too far-- exposing F-35 technology to the Russians crosses that line for me , , ,  Do we really want an Article 5 NATO relationship with what Turkey has become and what it may provoke in the the Syrian maelstrom?

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