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WSJ on Palin in 2006
« Reply #50 on: September 02, 2008, 09:53:34 PM »
This editorial appeared in the Journal on August, 25, 2006:

Alaska is among the most Republican states in the country, and maybe that explains why incumbent Governor Frank Murkowski finished third in Tuesday's GOP primary, with a mere 19% of the vote. We're hard-pressed to remember an incumbent anytime, anywhere receiving that small a share of the vote, and it's a warning to office holders everywhere about the sour public mood.

Mr. Murkowski is unpopular for a variety of local reasons, but most of them have to do with the kind of incumbent arrogance that has afflicted too many Washington Republicans. The Governor -- who spent 22 years in the Senate before running in Juneau -- made headlines for lobbying the legislature for a private jet because he said his prop plane wasn't speedy enough. When the legislature said no, Mr. Murkowski grabbed $2 million from the department of public security to buy one anyway and used it for campaign and personal trips. Now he'll be flying commercial.

Meanwhile, his pet $20 billion pipeline to transport natural gas to the lower 48 states was tainted by reports of sweetheart deals negotiated with energy companies. The pipeline will help the state's economy, but the cost in government subsidies is enormous. Voters also had a sour taste from the Governor's decision to name his daughter Lisa to the U.S. Senate seat that he gave up in 2002. She won election in her own right by a surprisingly narrow margin in 2004.

The candidate who defeated Mr. Murkowski this week is Sarah Palin, a former small town mayor who ran as, well, a real Republican. She hammered the Governor for misspending tax dollars, and for matching state funds to federal spending earmarks for low priority projects (i.e., the bridge to nowhere). Ms. Palin called the outcome a victory against "politics as usual," and will face a tough battle in November against Democrat and well-known former Governor Tony Knowles.

If Republicans are run out of Congress in November, one big reason will be that, like Mr. Murkowski, they have become far more comfortable running the government than reforming it.

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Re: McCain
« Reply #51 on: September 04, 2008, 07:26:54 AM »
**The dems now know what it's like to be a moose hunted by Sarah Palin.**

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/09/04/palin-delivers-a-knockout/

Palin delivers a knockout
POSTED AT 1:31 AM ON SEPTEMBER 4, 2008 BY ED MORRISSEY   


Perhaps the media and Democrats would have been better advised to set expectations high for Sarah Palin’s acceptance speech tonight at the Republican convention.  After ridiculing her as a small-town yokel for the better part of three days, Palin would have looked good if she managed to avoid drooling during her speech.  In the event, though, they could have set expectations as high as a Barack Obama acceptance speech, and Palin would still have exceeded them in a tremendous debut on the national stage.

Palin made it clear to the condescending media and her Democratic critics that she is no pushover, no cream puff.  Her nickname, “Sarah Barracuda”, seems a lot more fitting after tonight.  Not only did she defend her small-town upbringing, she attacked Barack Obama on almost every possible front, and for good measure went after Joe Biden and the mainstream media as well.

For instance, she sought to underscore Obama’s hypocrisy in talking about his love for working-class families while belittling them behind their backs, and included Biden in that criticism:

Before I became governor of the great state of Alaska, I was mayor of my hometown.

And since our opponents in this presidential election seem to look down on that experience, let me explain to them what the job involves.

I guess a small-town mayor is sort of like a “community organizer,” except that you have actual responsibilities. I might add that in small towns, we don’t quite know what to make of a candidate who lavishes praise on working people when they are listening, and then talks about how bitterly they cling to their religion and guns when those people aren’t listening.

We tend to prefer candidates who don’t talk about us one way in Scranton and another way in San Francisco.

And on Obama’s lack of any real reform in his entire career:

We’ve all heard his dramatic speeches before devoted followers.

And there is much to like and admire about our opponent.

But listening to him speak, it’s easy to forget that this is a man who has authored two memoirs but not a single major law or reform - not even in the state senate.

Palin also took a shot at Obama’s rather grandiose view of himself:

But when the cloud of rhetoric has passed … when the roar of the crowd fades away … when the stadium lights go out, and those Styrofoam Greek columns are hauled back to some studio lot - what exactly is our opponent’s plan? What does he actually seek to accomplish, after he’s done turning back the waters and healing the planet?

She didn’t forget the media, either:

I’ve learned quickly, these past few days, that if you’re not a member in good standing of the Washington elite, then some in the media consider a candidate unqualified for that reason alone.

But here’s a little news flash for all those reporters and commentators: I’m not going to Washington to seek their good opinion - I’m going to Washington to serve the people of this country. Americans expect us to go to Washington for the right reasons, and not just to mingle with the right people.

In the moments after the speech, I told our on-air listeners that this was the kind of speech Zell Miller could have delivered.  Palin didn’t deliver it in a shrill manner or sound like she had a chip on her shoulder, though.  She sounded like she relished the opportunity to engage.  Palin has no intention of allowing herself to get steamrolled by Barack “Sweetie” Obama, Democrats in general, or a mainstream media that suddenly found itself becoming the echo chamber for anonymous Kos diarists.

She didn’t just play the role of attack dog, although her description of hockey moms as pit bulls with lipstick played very well with the crowd.  Palin delivered a stirring defense of small-town values and middle America, and told Americans that she’s one of them — just a mother who started off wanting a better education for her kids, then wanted to improve her community, and just kept succeeding all the way up the ladder.

Palin also delivered for John McCain as well.  She gave this quote which will certainly resonate for weeks:

In politics, there are some candidates who use change to promote their careers.

And then there are those, like John McCain, who use their careers to promote change.

They’re the ones whose names appear on laws and landmark reforms, not just on buttons and banners, or on self-designed presidential seals.

She extolled the virtues of McCain, calling him the real agent of change in Washington.  Palin talked about the remarkable story of an American hero who may just finish the final steps of a journey from from a cell at the Hanoi Hilton to the White House, and what that says about his honor and our country.  She evoked a stir of emotions when Palin noted that small towns across America have memorials to men just like John McCain, only he made it home — and that middle America understands McCain because of that.

Palin showed her mettle tonight.  Alaskans tell us that she is “tough as nails” and doesn’t run from a fight.  Tonight, she challenged Barack Obama, Joe Biden, and the media elite to a fight to the finish.  And she has bad news for them: she has no plans to quit.

Republicans should feel cheered and elated by this event tonight.  No matter what happens in this race, we have seen the future of the party, and it looks bright indeed.

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Re: McCain
« Reply #52 on: September 04, 2008, 12:39:14 PM »
http://t-shirts.cafepress.com/item/i-am-sarah-palin-womens-cap-sleeve-tshirt/301393338

The MSM/left wing smear machine is on it's way to doing real damage to Barry-O and Plagaristic Joe.

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Re: McCain
« Reply #53 on: September 17, 2008, 07:30:08 AM »
Prominent Clinton backer and DNC member to endorse McCain

From CNN Political Editor Mark Preston

Lynn Forester de Rothschild was a strong supporter of Clinton's White House bid.

WASHINGTON (CNN) — Lynn Forester de Rothschild, a prominent Hillary Clinton supporter and member of the Democratic National Committee’s Platform Committee, will endorse John McCain for president on Wednesday, her spokesman tells CNN.

The announcement will take place at a news conference on Capitol Hill, just blocks away from the DNC headquarters. Forester will “campaign and help him through the election,” the spokesman said of her plans to help the Republican presidential nominee.

Forester was a major donor for Clinton earning her the title as a Hillraiser for helping to raise at least $100,000 for the New York Democratic senator’s failed presidential bid.

In an interview with CNN this summer, Forester did not hide her distaste for eventual Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama.

“This is a hard decision for me personally because frankly I don't like him,” she said of Obama in an interview with CNN’s Joe Johns. “I feel like he is an elitist. I feel like he has not given me reason to trust him.”

Forester is the CEO of EL Rothschild, a holding company with businesses around the world. She is married to international banker Sir Evelyn de Rothschild. Forester is a member of the DNC’s Democrats Abroad chapter and splits her time living in London and New York.
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What I found particularly hilarious is a Rothschild calling ANYONE an elitist.



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WSJ: McC wasting Palin?
« Reply #54 on: September 18, 2008, 10:17:20 AM »
The media is turning the news into a presidential video game. "Hurricane Ike" or "Wall Street Meltdown" appears onscreen, and the media boots up Barack Obama and John McCain to see how well they talk the problem. Mostly they are speaking gobbledygook about things they barely understand. Whatever a credit default swap is, I'm against it. The public is left to wonder if they are voting for a commentator in chief or commander in chief.

 
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Sen. McCain: Make government fit inside this flag.
The credit-market turmoil is serious, but no campaign has the information Treasury or the Fed are using to work the problem.

Rather than be dragged into the path of the financial storm, the McCain campaign especially needs to refocus on its postconvention momentum. It needs to worry about wasting the political capital Gov. Sarah Palin deposited in the Bank of McCain three weeks ago.

Once Mr. McCain picked Mrs. Palin as his running mate, he demoted "experience" and elevated a government "reform" message. It was the right thing to do. Presidential voters are ambivalent about Beltway-marinated senators like Mr. McCain and Joe Biden. John McCain's edge is his famous reputation as a reform maverick. So far, though, he is not casting his reform message in large enough terms.


John McCain should be playing up Palin's popularity and resume of reform, Wonder Land columnist Daniel Henninger tells Kelsey Hubbard. (Sept. 18)
Washington is arguably at its lowest ebb in the public mind since before World War II. Join that fact to Sarah Palin's personally gutsy and professionally strong reform credentials, and Mr. McCain has the chance to offer voters a reform presidency in historic terms.

Yes, the Obama campaign is trying to hang the Bush presidency around his neck. Mr. McCain knows -- and should give -- the answer to that: Voter disgust with Washington goes far beyond George W. Bush.

In the 2006 off-year election, voters threw out the Republican bums and turned over control of Congress to the Democrats. In an odd thank-you, the Democratic Congress earned the lowest approval ratings ever recorded in opinion polls.

This decline is not part of the normal ebb and flow of politics. The fall, the malfeasance, is deeper. It's bipartisan. It's endemic. The most acute comment on what Washington has become -- and what the American public knows it has become -- was a federal judge's Sept. 4 sentencing statement for convicted Beltway favor-meister Jack Abramoff.

Standing before federal Judge Ellen Huvelle, Abramoff said, "So much that happens in Washington stretches the envelope, skirts the spirit of the law and lives in loopholes." Agreed, said Judge Huvelle, who hammered Abramoff with an additional 48-month sentence, more than prosecutors had asked. She said simply: "The true victims are members of the public who lost their trust in government."

Forget the Tina Fey SNL mockery and all the marginalia being written about Sarah Palin now. She did four real things in Alaska that make her fit for anyone interested in a reform presidency.

She took on: her party's state chairman, her party's state attorney general, GOP Gov. Frank Murkowski's tainted gas pipeline project, and then she supported a GOP candidate who ran against Alaska's "untouchable" GOP congressional earmarker, Don Young.

One way or another, each episode involved severing the sleazy ties that bind public officials to grasping commercial interests, something even the Democratic left purports to favor.

It isn't just Washington and Juneau. You could open the nozzle on the same reform fire hose to wash the public-private slime out of the capital hallways of New York, New Jersey, California, Illinois and onward.

You say Sarah Palin doesn't have enough "experience" to run Washington? Washington is barely fit to be run.

The problem isn't standard political corruption. The problem is that the $2.8 trillion federal budget is a vast ocean of Beltway pilot fish feeding off scraps from the whale -- lawyers, lobbyists, ex-Members of Congress. No one runs the Sea of Washington. It's too big, too deep.

Barack Obama wants to dig a deeper hole. John McCain should ask the American people if they want this to go on, because it's nonsense to vote for government to do "more" and then whine when it doesn't work or degrades into sweetheart-deal hell.

Unfocused "reform" rhetoric from Mr. McCain isn't enough. The public has been there, heard that. Sen. McCain should talk about what he knows -- fat Fannie and Freddie, farm-bill bloat, the ethanol subsidy fiasco, the federal procurement mess. Show people Gov. Palin's 18 single-spaced pages of 2007 vetoes. Then identify Congress's bipartisan supporters of the Legislative Line-Item Veto Act and ask the voters' support. Appear with GOP congressman from Sarah's new generation who want to help -- Eric Cantor of Virginia, Paul Ryan of Wisconsin, Kevin McCarthy of California. There are others.

Promise to spend the first two years on this historic political reform effort, and if a Democratic Congress laughs, promise to barnstorm in 2010 for a Congress willing to act, from any party.

One hears talk of John McCain's temper. My guess is voters want someone to lose it with Washington, big time. Oh, and he should ask what's the difference between a reformist pit bull and a six-term senator. It isn't lipstick.

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Re: McCain
« Reply #55 on: October 14, 2008, 09:40:33 AM »
Actually I found some of the typed in commentary to be a bit over the top but overall a good piece of guerrila theater.  Wish I had been back there-- this is where I grew up  :-D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQalRPQ8stI

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Krauthammer
« Reply #56 on: October 24, 2008, 08:41:22 AM »
From Washington Post

McCain for President
By Charles Krauthammer

Friday, October 24, 2008; A19

Contrarian that I am, I'm voting for John McCain. I'm not talking about bucking the polls or the media consensus that it's over before it's over. I'm talking about bucking the rush of wet-fingered conservatives leaping to Barack Obama before they're left out in the cold without a single state dinner for the next four years.

I stand athwart the rush of conservative ship-jumpers of every stripe -- neo (Ken Adelman), moderate (Colin Powell), genetic/ironic (Christopher Buckley) and socialist/atheist (Christopher Hitchens) -- yelling "Stop!" I shall have no part of this motley crew. I will go down with the McCain ship. I'd rather lose an election than lose my bearings.

First, I'll have no truck with the phony case ginned up to rationalize voting for the most liberal and inexperienced presidential nominee in living memory. The "erratic" temperament issue, for example. As if McCain's risky and unsuccessful but in no way irrational attempt to tactically maneuver his way through the economic tsunami that came crashing down a month ago renders unfit for office a man who demonstrated the most admirable equanimity and courage in the face of unimaginable pressures as a prisoner of war, and who later steadily navigated innumerable challenges and setbacks, not the least of which was the collapse of his campaign just a year ago.

McCain the "erratic" is a cheap Obama talking point. The 40-year record testifies to McCain the stalwart.

Nor will I countenance the "dirty campaign" pretense. The double standard here is stunning. Obama ran a scurrilous Spanish-language ad falsely associating McCain with anti-Hispanic slurs. Another ad falsely claimed that McCain supports "cutting Social Security benefits in half." And for months Democrats insisted that McCain sought 100 years of war in Iraq.

McCain's critics are offended that he raised the issue of William Ayers. What's astonishing is that Obama was himself not offended by William Ayers.

Moreover, the most remarkable of all tactical choices of this election season is the attack that never was. Out of extreme (and unnecessary) conscientiousness, McCain refused to raise the legitimate issue of Obama's most egregious association -- with the race-baiting Rev. Jeremiah Wright. Dirty campaigning, indeed.

The case for McCain is straightforward. The financial crisis has made us forget, or just blindly deny, how dangerous the world out there is. We have a generations-long struggle with Islamic jihadism. An apocalyptic soon-to-be-nuclear Iran. A nuclear-armed Pakistan in danger of fragmentation. A rising Russia pushing the limits of revanchism. Plus the sure-to-come Falklands-like surprise popping out of nowhere.

Who do you want answering that phone at 3 a.m.? A man who's been cramming on these issues for the past year, who's never had to make an executive decision affecting so much as a city, let alone the world? A foreign policy novice instinctively inclined to the flabbiest, most vaporous multilateralism (e.g., the Berlin Wall came down because of "a world that stands as one"), and who refers to the most deliberate act of war since Pearl Harbor as "the tragedy of 9/11," a term more appropriate for a bus accident?

Or do you want a man who is the most prepared, most knowledgeable, most serious foreign policy thinker in the United States Senate? A man who not only has the best instincts but has the honor and the courage to, yes, put country first, as when he carried the lonely fight for the surge that turned Iraq from catastrophic defeat into achievable strategic victory?

There's just no comparison. Obama's own running mate warned this week that Obama's youth and inexperience will invite a crisis -- indeed a crisis "generated" precisely to test him. Can you be serious about national security and vote on Nov. 4 to invite that test?

And how will he pass it? Well, how has he fared on the only two significant foreign policy tests he has faced since he's been in the Senate? The first was the surge. Obama failed spectacularly. He not only opposed it. He tried to denigrate it, stop it and, finally, deny its success.

The second test was Georgia, to which Obama responded instinctively with evenhanded moral equivalence, urging restraint on both sides. McCain did not have to consult his advisers to instantly identify the aggressor.

Today's economic crisis, like every other in our history, will in time pass. But the barbarians will still be at the gates. Whom do you want on the parapet? I'm for the guy who can tell the lion from the lamb.


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Re: McCain
« Reply #57 on: October 24, 2008, 08:49:58 AM »
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/24/mccain-ad-ladies-and-gentlemen/

Thank god for Joe Biden, he might just make a difference.

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Joe the plumber appalled
« Reply #58 on: December 10, 2008, 07:26:25 AM »
'Joe the Plumber' told conservative radio host Glenn Beck on Tuesday that he felt "dirty" after hitting the campaign trail with Republican presidential nominee John McCain and "seeing some of the things that take place," Politico reported.

Joe Wurzelbacher said he was specifically put off by McCain when it came to talk of the $700 billion bailout.

"When I was on the bus with him, I asked him a lot of questions about the bailout because most Americans did not want that to happen,"

Wurzelbacher told Beck. "I asked him some pretty direct questions. Some of the answers you guys are gonna receive they appalled me, absolutely. I was angry. In fact, I wanted to get off the bus after I talked to him."
Wurzelbacher said he stayed on the trail with McCain "honestly, because the thought of Barack Obama as president scares me even more."

Wurzelbacher, however, offered kind words to McCain running mate Alaska Governor Sarah Palin.

"Sarah Palin is absolutely the real deal," he said.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/elec...cain-appalled/

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Re: McCain
« Reply #59 on: July 23, 2013, 07:48:57 AM »
Just a quick yip to express the notion that McCain would have been a rather poor president in his own right.

Most recently, I gather he has joined the president in calling for dialing back Stand Your Ground laws.

Then there is the matter of his wanting full intervention in Syria.  Anybody here up for that?

Etc, etc.


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Re: McCain
« Reply #60 on: July 23, 2013, 08:45:02 AM »
Just a quick yip to express the notion that McCain would have been a rather poor president in his own right.
Most recently, I gather he has joined the president in calling for dialing back Stand Your Ground laws.
Then there is the matter of his wanting full intervention in Syria.  Anybody here up for that?
Etc, etc.

Agree.  He is a good and decent man who went through an amazing ordeal during his military service.  His political career, however, was a net negative for the country.

Within the conservative, libertarian, tea party, limited government movement, broadly named Republicans, there are a certain number of people who would rather stand with the other side than stand on principle.  RINO became the term and McCain became the face of it.  Sitting in Barry Goldwater's seat for parts of 4 decades, what has he done to make government smaller or individual liberty greater?  Did he build and lead a limited government movement in his home state or in the Senate over that time?  No, no.  Instead his siding with Democrats on key issues over the years helped to give Democrats cover for their votes and secure their own reelections so they all could continue to grow government, grow their own power, and erode our liberty.  MHO.

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Re: McCain
« Reply #61 on: July 23, 2013, 08:49:11 AM »
McLame would still be a better president than  Buraq. The key factor being that McLame doesn't hate this country.

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Re: McCain
« Reply #62 on: July 23, 2013, 10:10:07 AM »
McLame would still be a better president than Buraq. The key factor being that McLame doesn't hate this country.

A Middle of the Road friend told me Hillary would have been better than Obama.  My opinion is that better than Obama is not the standard to judge Presidential excellence.

Yes, McCain better than Buraq, I voted for him, but having another failed Republican presidency in some ways is worse than watching your opponents prove that their ideology doesn't work.  For one thing we wouldn't have won back the House; the resurgence of 2010 would have been the occupy-left.  And who knows what Pelosi-Reid writings McCain would have signed.



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I am afraid McCain is, in this instance, totally full of it
« Reply #65 on: October 18, 2016, 12:24:35 PM »
   
"There is hope for the man after all , , , maybe not"

Crafty , when McCain says he will not approve any HRC nominee he is speaking only to get the Right's voters to come out and vote for him.  Do not think for one second he means what he says here.
I am positive he has pulled this trick before just ahead of a close election.   

Once elected he will change his tune and vote more like an independent.

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Back to the same old John McCain
« Reply #67 on: December 11, 2016, 07:45:37 PM »
So what is his point?  Should we re do the election?  Here we go again with his useful idiot for the left. 
What does he expect Trump to say:  Yup I got elected because  of Vlad and therefore I will forfeit my Presidency. because it was not legitimate and if not for a thug liar thief and murderer I would not be President elect and it is not fair to Hillary who rightfully won - not me.  Gee any   :x wonder why you lost in 2008 Senator McCain?

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/john-mccain-donald-trump-russia-hacking-response/

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His replacement
« Reply #68 on: July 20, 2017, 08:39:03 AM »
solid Republican ?  replacement to be appointed by Governor.  Although I read Rand Paul is endorsing Ward too and for me that is a bit of a red flad she may not be a full team player

God speed to McCain but he should have retired long ago

http://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/politics/front-runner-to-replace-mccain/71207538/

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Re: His replacement
« Reply #69 on: July 20, 2017, 08:44:50 AM »
solid Republican ?  replacement to be appointed by Governor.  Although I read Rand Paul is endorsing Ward too and for me that is a bit of a red flad she may not be a full team player

God speed to McCain but he should have retired long ago

http://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/politics/front-runner-to-replace-mccain/71207538/

Yes. McCain was a war hero, but horrible in office, especially recently.

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McCain: In the end a big f/u to the GOP
« Reply #70 on: July 28, 2017, 12:43:38 PM »
Did anyone notice McCain and Schumer literally HUGGING each other when he returned to Senate to cast his vote?  I did .    :x

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/the-night-john-mccain-killed-the-gops-health-care-fight/2017/07/28/f5acce58-7361-11e7-8f39-eeb7d3a2d304_story.html?utm_term=.d62e237c6727

Back stab his own party on his death bed just to show how "principled" he is.  As usual the Dems sucker the Repubs.

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Re: McCain
« Reply #71 on: July 28, 2017, 03:35:29 PM »
coming from of the most ruthless political operator there is McCain should sleep well at night knowing he is complimented by a frankly political enemy.  What a dupe.  Yes his intentions are good but just foolish.  He cannot be replaced soon enough.  God speed to his health but for God's sake please leave the darn Senate will you!


http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/US-Congress-Health-Overhaul-The-Latest/2017/07/28/id/804437/

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This is too funny
« Reply #72 on: July 28, 2017, 04:17:06 PM »
Schumer :  McCain as great as Ted Kennedy.  !!!!   That is fine .  He is loved and praised by the opposition party and now made a fool of himself to the GOP. 

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/2017/07/28/schumer-mccain-ranks-as-great-as-ted-kennedy/

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the biparitsan statesman
« Reply #73 on: July 30, 2017, 03:56:00 AM »
problem is Senator McCain, those days are long gone:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/joe-biden-john-mccain_us_597cb903e4b0da64e8797fa9?w6w&ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009

Sadly the war hero ,  who I respect highly respect as a human being was duped again.

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If he ran as a Democrat
« Reply #74 on: August 14, 2017, 12:09:23 PM »
He could be President:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/215897/mccain-favorability-healthcare-vote.aspx

What a joke.  He has far higher ratings with the opposing party.  When have we ever seen that?

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Re: If he ran as a Democrat
« Reply #75 on: August 14, 2017, 12:14:48 PM »
He could be President:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/215897/mccain-favorability-healthcare-vote.aspx

What a joke.  He has far higher ratings with the opposing party.  When have we ever seen that?

They only like him as a Republican.  In 2008, no one crossed over to vote for him.  Given the choice, they took a smooth talking junior community organizer for commander in chief over a war hero and they did it with historic enthusiasm.

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Very interesting history here that I was totally un aware of
« Reply #76 on: August 29, 2017, 04:42:43 PM »
From Sparta report:

https://www.spartareport.com/2017/08/pardon-for-me/

In no way is this to mean I am judging McCain's war record.
Nor am I trying to disparage his patriotism.

I only wish he would retire and stop being a shill for the Left.

BTW, It seems to me Nixon was right. 

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Re: McCain
« Reply #77 on: August 30, 2017, 03:44:54 AM »
Not clear to me-- for what was McCain pardoned?

BTW, see my post of a few minutes ago on the Rule of Law thread-- which I suspect is where most of this conversation should take place.

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Re: McCain
« Reply #78 on: August 30, 2017, 08:52:47 AM »
Not clear to me-- for what was McCain pardoned?

http://www.snopes.com/politics/mccain/warcriminal.asp

Better to attack McCain for his involvement in the Keating five as a (formerly?) corrupt politician then to attack him for his service to our country as an injured and tortured prisoner of war.

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Re: McCain
« Reply #79 on: February 02, 2018, 06:30:08 PM »
never shy about being a "Republican" go to guy for the opposition media

I guess it doesn't bother McCain that there was clearly a conspiracy to let one candidate off the hook and to go after another from a LEftist administration:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/sen-john-mccain-nunes-memo-175552422.html

This guy sure loves himself . 

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« Reply #80 on: February 03, 2018, 05:59:11 AM »
McCain was part of the conspiracy.

Or was he just the dupe that delivered the dossier.

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Re: McCain
« Reply #81 on: February 03, 2018, 06:45:01 AM »
"McCain was part of the conspiracy.

Or was he just the dupe that delivered the dossier."

your right !  I forgot.

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Re: McCain
« Reply #82 on: February 03, 2018, 08:45:55 AM »
He may be pissed off about Trump's comments about him not being a war hero because he was captured.

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Re: McCain
« Reply #83 on: February 03, 2018, 04:28:59 PM »
I don't blame for being offended by that .  So was I.
But I hope that is not his reason here .


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wow
« Reply #84 on: May 05, 2018, 05:20:54 PM »
to think he urges the opposition party ex VP to run is suggestive of a very bitter man if you ask me.

I don't blame him about not wanting Trump at his funeral speaking but to ask Biden to carry on is really totally unbelievable.

Sad .  To think I voted for him in '08.  Just amazing how things turn out

https://www.spartareport.com/2018/05/mccain-joe-biden-2020-refuses-trump-to-speak-at-funeral/

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« Reply #85 on: May 06, 2018, 10:21:53 AM »
to think he urges the opposition party ex VP to run is suggestive of a very bitter man if you ask me.

I don't blame him about not wanting Trump at his funeral speaking but to ask Biden to carry on is really totally unbelievable.

Sad .  To think I voted for him in '08.  Just amazing how things turn out

https://www.spartareport.com/2018/05/mccain-joe-biden-2020-refuses-trump-to-speak-at-funeral/

McCain and Trump actually have a lot in common but there is plenty of reason for them to not like each other.  Expressing that now is fair game for McCain, not as bad as breaking healthcare vote promises to his voters over personal ego reasons.

I'm sure he does regret picking Palin, yes, saying that is in bad taste.  It was NOT why he lost.

He is again the darling of the media.  He loves that, needs that, and had it all of his career - except at the moment in his career when he needed it. 

His strange friendship with a creep like Joe Biden is symptomatic of the swamp and why an outsider and not someone like McCain or Buden won - the last 4 times, the Governor of Arkansas, the Governor of texas, the junior Senator from Illinois and a real estate developer, right while a whole host of 'distinguished' colleagues in the Senate wanted it so badly.

God Bless his military service to our country and he was always strong on defense issues in the Senate.  After that mixed reviews at best that come out on the negative side.  Keating Five was the least of it.  Campaign Finance "reform" - partner with Democrats to limit free speech??  Good Grief.  Struck down as unconstitutional.  They should strike down most of his career while they're at it.  I would rate him about a first grader on economics, see the primary campaign of 2000.   Mostly showmanship was his strength, Oh, there's a camera!  Criticizing his own side every chance he could get to raise himself up in the spotlife.  Good for him.  Meanwhile, he will always be known for accomplishing WHAT in public policy? 

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« Reply #86 on: May 06, 2018, 10:35:33 AM »
His military service was honorable. His political career, not at all.

to think he urges the opposition party ex VP to run is suggestive of a very bitter man if you ask me.

I don't blame him about not wanting Trump at his funeral speaking but to ask Biden to carry on is really totally unbelievable.

Sad .  To think I voted for him in '08.  Just amazing how things turn out

https://www.spartareport.com/2018/05/mccain-joe-biden-2020-refuses-trump-to-speak-at-funeral/

McCain and Trump actually have a lot in common but there is plenty of reason for them to not like each other.  Expressing that now is fair game for McCain, not as bad as breaking healthcare vote promises to his voters over personal ego reasons.

I'm sure he does regret picking Palin, yes, saying that is in bad taste.  It was NOT why he lost.

He is again the darling of the media.  He loves that, needs that, and had it all of his career - except at the moment in his career when he needed it. 

His strange friendship with a creep like Joe Biden is symptomatic of the swamp and why an outsider and not someone like McCain or Buden won - the last 4 times, the Governor of Arkansas, the Governor of texas, the junior Senator from Illinois and a real estate developer, right while a whole host of 'distinguished' colleagues in the Senate wanted it so badly.

God Bless his military service to our country and he was always strong on defense issues in the Senate.  After that mixed reviews at best that come out on the negative side.  Keating Five was the least of it.  Campaign Finance "reform" - partner with Democrats to limit free speech??  Good Grief.  Struck down as unconstitutional.  They should strike down most of his career while they're at it.  I would rate him about a first grader on economics, see the primary campaign of 2000.   Mostly showmanship was his strength, Oh, there's a camera!  Criticizing his own side every chance he could get to raise himself up in the spotlife.  Good for him.  Meanwhile, he will always be known for accomplishing WHAT in public policy? 

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Re: McCain
« Reply #87 on: May 06, 2018, 08:58:33 PM »
Good summary by Doug and CCP.

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Re: McCain
« Reply #88 on: May 11, 2018, 03:50:17 PM »
Yeah AP notes this as the  sparking of "timely debates"  . McCain for the last 30 yrs has been a shrill for the LEFT.
So now everything he says that is opposite of Trump is "timely". 

I for one won't miss him.  He is too narcissistic to go out with grace. Clinging to the spot light.  He runs Left where he gets all this public drama because he is not a conservative champion except on defense:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/mccain-even-illness-sparks-lively-timely-debates-220656179--politics.html


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Re: John McCain's disgraceful role with The Dossier
« Reply #90 on: May 29, 2018, 08:36:03 AM »
"John McCain Says ‘Go to Hell’ If You Don’t Like that He Passed Dossier to FBI"

I don't like that this phony GOP Senator played a key role in passing this phony document to our phony authorities as part of a conspiracy with the Deep State but if he says so, I will go to hell with this one observation, I didn't expect to see Sen McCain sitting in Saint Peter's place at the pearly gates making this important decision about my future.

http://960thepatriot.com/content/newstalk-news/john-mccain-go-to-hell-dossier-fbi

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McCain says: "go to hell"
« Reply #91 on: May 29, 2018, 09:34:47 AM »
I would have given him a pass , perhaps his brain cancer has affected his judgement, but no, this is just him, being the sanctimonious egotistical press craven he always has been.
What an MO.  Just say anything against your own party and suddenly you are one of the all the time greats in the Senate.  A behemoth of integrity.  A titan of virtuosity.  

Except none of it true.   He is more like a turncoat. More resembling of a  Benedict Arnold.  A hero really in his own narcissistic mind.  And those who are happy to use him and give him a platform - the LEFT.

I should have been a politician:

https://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/money-and-power/a20264450/john-mccain-cindy-mccain-net-worth/

BTW Cindy McCain is going to replace him in the Senate when he croaks:


Doug,
did you see this :

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/05/28/report-cindy-mccain-likely-succeed-husband-john-mccain-senate/

The McCain emperors have no clothes!!!

If the Repubs are stupid enough to vote her in.....
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Re: McCain
« Reply #92 on: May 29, 2018, 10:34:50 AM »
Anyone remember the Keating Five?

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no surprise here
« Reply #93 on: August 26, 2018, 05:51:12 PM »

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Re: McCain
« Reply #94 on: August 27, 2018, 07:17:31 AM »
RIP John McCain and God Bless all who served in our military defending our freedoms, including Senator McCain.


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Re: Good montage of how poorly McCain was treated by the View
« Reply #96 on: August 28, 2018, 06:26:22 AM »
in '08:

https://pjmedia.com/trending/video-the-view-hated-mccain-before-they-loved-him/

Strange that we still refer to them as the mainstream when they are not. Hannity Etc  are no further to the right  then these ladies are to the left . As far back as 1968 a republican politician called on the silent majority while the Liberals were making all the noise, much like the Left media power vs the Trump voter today.

Among all the lessons of McCain, none are a striking as his relationship with the media. They loved him when he attacked and opposed Republicans, they sh×t on him when he was the nominee, this video shows that, and then they loved him again when he went back to attacking an opposing fellow Republicans.

And now they can't understand why a Republican candidate and president won't kowtow to them.
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Re: McCain
« Reply #97 on: August 29, 2018, 05:39:06 PM »
Palin not invited to the funeral?

There is no better patriot then her.

HE CHOSE HER  as his VP pick.

Is this a family thing?

I dunno . 

God I hope his wife is not picked to be a Senator .  As states yesterday by one of the conservative talking heads - we don't need another McCain in the Senate ! 


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Re: McCain replacement in the Senate
« Reply #98 on: August 30, 2018, 06:16:54 AM »
"God I hope his wife is not picked to be a Senator."

Likewise. This is a great opportunity for governor Ducey.

The biggest Senate issue of our time there's probably Supreme Court nominations and Senator McCain had already announced that he supported Brett Kavanaugh. The new appointee must be rock-solid on constitutional issues.  If so, Kavanaugh just gained a vote because McCain wasn't going to make it to Washington.

The governor should follow the conservative Buckley rule, who is the best and most conservative who can get elected, reelected in Arizona in this case.  In the certain to be difficult elections of 2020 we need this incumbent to be a great one, worthy of support and capable of winning. Governor Ducey also has a reelection to consider.

My definition of a great leader of conservatism is someone who is more effective at bringing new people over to our side than at compromising on principles.

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« Reply #99 on: August 31, 2018, 07:42:45 AM »
A news report about McCain interviewing General Petraeus reminded me of something to his great credit of which I had forgotten.

When the Iraq War was going down the tubes, Senators McCain, Graham, and Lieberman held strong and were pivotal to President Bush deciding to go with General Petraeus's Surge.


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https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/all-betos-are-off/
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