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« Reply #804 on: September 14, 2017, 05:25:29 AM »
**** [Maggie] Hassan recently attacked Gardner, her fellow Democrat, for serving on the presidential advisory commission.

“Secretary Gardner’s association with this partisan commission risks tarnishing his long legacy of fighting for the New Hampshire Primary and promoting voter participation, and it would be in keeping with his distinguished record to immediately relinquish any role with this commission,” Hassan said in a statement.***


It is worth noting and worthy of investigation that this same Hassan (who is a lawyer obviously not interested in law enforcement like a good Democrat)  won her Senate seat by a mere 100 votes!!!!  She could well have won by fraud:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maggie_Hassan

also from above post - New Hampshire has long history of close and strange voting counts:  " in 1974, Republican Louis Wyman beat Democrat John Durkin by 355 votes in that hotly contested U.S. Senate race. After a recount, Durkin beat Wyman by 10 votes. Wyman asked for another recount, which he won by two votes. The U.S. Senate sought to determine the outcome, before sending it back to the state, which called a special election. Gardner served on the House Election Law Committee that sorted out some of the issues in the election"

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voter integrity - what voter integrity???   :?


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Re: The electoral process, vote fraud, SEIU/ACORN et al, etc.
« Reply #806 on: September 17, 2017, 11:29:36 AM »
"  Vote machines can be hacked without a trace  "

So can probably everything else.

In any case we on this board told the world  this would happen for years .

But as the Dems keep telling us,

"voter fraud is *exceedingly* rare". 

[the bastards]   :x







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History of meddling in foreign elections
« Reply #812 on: November 14, 2017, 07:33:09 AM »
BTW, I suspect a complete history would include Rep administrations meddling too.

https://pjmedia.com/trending/hypocrisy-obama-clinton-long-history-meddling-foreign-elections/


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Electoral process, fraud, etc: Wisconsin Fraud more sinister than first reported
« Reply #814 on: December 08, 2017, 11:57:17 AM »
Along with the FBI scandals and everything else, this is REALLY BAD STUFF.

http://www.maciverinstitute.com/2017/12/doj-report-wisconsins-infamous-john-doe-was-more-sinister-than-first-reported/

Read it all.


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Bill to expand NPPD
« Reply #815 on: December 17, 2017, 07:56:53 AM »
http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/365168-gop-chairman-worried-by-trumps-stance-on-russian-interference

In addition to the Trump related commentary, note this:
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Last week, the House passed legislation sponsored by McCaul that would elevate Homeland Security’s cybersecurity mission by replacing the little-recognized headquarters office called the National Protection and Programs Directorate (NPPD) with an operational, stand-alone agency to handle cyber and infrastructure protection.

Part of the NPPD’s mission is providing penetration testing and other services to state and local officials worried about the security of their voter databases and other systems. Homeland Security opened up election infrastructure to voluntary federal protections after Russia tried to infiltrate election infrastructure in 21 states ahead of last year’s election.

Broadly, NPPD is responsible for protecting critical infrastructure — the majority of which is owned privately — from cyber and physical threats.

McCaul’s legislation has received strong backing from Kirstjen Nielsen, Trump’s new Homeland Security secretary. She has urged the Senate to pass similar legislation

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Virginia State legislature now 50/50 by one vote
« Reply #816 on: December 19, 2017, 06:10:13 PM »


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Judge James A Wynn (jr!)
« Reply #823 on: January 11, 2018, 06:22:09 AM »
And of course guess who appointed the Judge in NC?  ( I will give you two tries - Obama or Clinton):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_A._Wynn_Jr.

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Re: FED court orders congressional map redrawn
« Reply #824 on: January 11, 2018, 11:10:00 AM »
second post
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/09/us/north-carolina-gerrymander.html?emc=edit_na_20180109&nl=breaking-news&nlid=49641193&ref=cta&_r=0

I wonder what other official governmental action cannot be done for blatant political purposes, DACA, Puerto Rico statehood, Obamacare, disaster relief, DOT grants, voter registration drives,  ...




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Re: The electoral process, vote fraud, SEIU/ACORN et al, etc.
« Reply #828 on: January 19, 2018, 10:19:32 AM »
To vote ??????!!!!!!!!#$%^&*()

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Re: The electoral process, vote fraud, SEIU/ACORN et al, etc.
« Reply #829 on: January 19, 2018, 04:28:45 PM »
From my FB page in response to this:

 Not sure Capoliticalreview read the part of the bill requiring the driver’s license holders be CA citizens eligible to vote in order to be registered. The driver licenses for noncitizens are restricted and clearly designated with "Federal Limits Apply" in big red letters signifying status. Those folks can't get registered as they are not eligible due to their status and the licenses they are issued. If someone comes into the DMV(per the bill) they get registered IF they are eligible to vote. Noncitizens are not eligible and their drivers licenses are clearly marked physically and in the computer systems. They cannot be registered. This story and the like seems to be a scare tactic to ruffle the feathers of republicans fearful of additional eligible Latino voters registering as opposed to an actual threat to democracy. I'm confident they know these facts and choose not to include them in their not so honest stories.



Marc Denny  I'll readily agree Capolitical Review is not always a responsible source, but if I understand correctly, the point is that anyone can lie and declare themselves to be a citizen-- yes?



Erik Lilliedahl:  Not from what I understand. You need to prove who are (16 yro and US citizen) via US birth certificate and SSN in order to get a US resident license the first time. Out of state DL holders use the previous state's DL. You don't have those forms of ID if you are a nonresident. Now you can still get a license in CA if your are a nonresident as we know. You still have to provide forms of identification proof but it doesn't give you resident status. That is a whole different discussion on the pros and cons of that. However, as it stands as a nonresident your DL is marked physically with a "Federal Limits Apply" and likewise in the system. Your DL is in another electronic bucket so to speak. These nonresidents cannot be registered to vote. The politicians know there is always human error so they included a provision in the bill. If you are registered to vote somehow and should not have been, through no fault of your own, and this eronious registration happened via the DMV system. You as an individual will not be held liable for the illegal action. However this shouldn't be able to happen with nonresidents as they cannot be registered. This would be a citizen with restrictions like a felon and what not. Are there going to be mistakes? Probably, but they will be far and few between and nowhere near the 800,000 numbers alarmists are mentioning. But be sure once a mistake happens capolitical and the like will be all over it.

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Re: The electoral process, vote fraud, SEIU/ACORN et al, etc.
« Reply #830 on: January 19, 2018, 06:47:31 PM »
Your poster does not know what he is talking about. My wife, as a legal aliens had to fight to avoid being registered to vote, as she feared the possible legal ramifications. She has been called for jury duty multiple times and had to jump through hoops and prove she was a noncitizen.

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Re: The electoral process, vote fraud, SEIU/ACORN et al, etc.
« Reply #832 on: January 20, 2018, 02:02:11 PM »
From my FB page in response to this:

 Not sure Capoliticalreview read the part of the bill requiring the driver’s license holders be CA citizens eligible to vote in order to be registered. The driver licenses for noncitizens are restricted and clearly designated with "Federal Limits Apply" in big red letters signifying status. Those folks can't get registered as they are not eligible due to their status and the licenses they are issued. If someone comes into the DMV(per the bill) they get registered IF they are eligible to vote. Noncitizens are not eligible and their drivers licenses are clearly marked physically and in the computer systems. They cannot be registered. This story and the like seems to be a scare tactic to ruffle the feathers of republicans fearful of additional eligible Latino voters registering as opposed to an actual threat to democracy. I'm confident they know these facts and choose not to include them in their not so honest stories.



Marc Denny  I'll readily agree Capolitical Review is not always a responsible source, but if I understand correctly, the point is that anyone can lie and declare themselves to be a citizen-- yes?



Erik Lilliedahl:  Not from what I understand. You need to prove who are (16 yro and US citizen) via US birth certificate and SSN in order to get a US resident license the first time. Out of state DL holders use the previous state's DL. You don't have those forms of ID if you are a nonresident. Now you can still get a license in CA if your are a nonresident as we know. You still have to provide forms of identification proof but it doesn't give you resident status. That is a whole different discussion on the pros and cons of that. However, as it stands as a nonresident your DL is marked physically with a "Federal Limits Apply" and likewise in the system. Your DL is in another electronic bucket so to speak. These nonresidents cannot be registered to vote. The politicians know there is always human error so they included a provision in the bill. If you are registered to vote somehow and should not have been, through no fault of your own, and this eronious registration happened via the DMV system. You as an individual will not be held liable for the illegal action. However this shouldn't be able to happen with nonresidents as they cannot be registered. This would be a citizen with restrictions like a felon and what not. Are there going to be mistakes? Probably, but they will be far and few between and nowhere near the 800,000 numbers alarmists are mentioning. But be sure once a mistake happens capolitical and the like will be all over it.

https://pjmedia.com/jchristianadams/2016/10/19/podesta-wikileaks-horror-voter-id-doesnt-stop-alien-voting/

https://www.nbcchicago.com/investigations/Law-Misleading-Non-Citizens-to-Illegally-Register-to-Vote-Attorney-428779283.html



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Obama's guy NOW claims Russians got into voting machines
« Reply #834 on: February 08, 2018, 05:29:56 AM »
So now that the heat is on Obama now that we have real evidence he was involved in the scam to get Hillary off Jeh say Russians hacked into voting machines

Wait I thought there is NO voting fraud
I thought there are many controls to keep this from happening
Now Leftist rag takes jehs say of Russians tampering with election again  thus giving the whole Leftist MSM more crap to speak about while ignoring the corruption from O's administration:

http://www.newsweek.com/russians-successfully-hacked-us-voter-systems-2016-election-top-official-says-801253

But if any of this is true WHY NOW?


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Re: The electoral process, vote fraud, SEIU/ACORN et al, etc.
« Reply #835 on: February 20, 2018, 11:39:02 AM »
Somewhere in this thead is a detailed post about a lot of the voting machines being owned/controlled by Soros and subject to manipulation.  I've tried finding it but could use some help please.

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Re: The electoral process, vote fraud, SEIU/ACORN et al, etc.
« Reply #836 on: February 21, 2018, 07:05:49 AM »
I did not see it in the thread.  Try this:
http://www.businessinsider.com/george-soros-connection-to-voting-machines-2016-10

Soros didn't own the company and the machines weren't used in the election.  Soros was tied to the owners through another organization.

He has plenty of other nefarious mis-deeds undermining elections.

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Soros funding anti-Trump using former ACORN employees, May 2017
« Reply #837 on: February 21, 2018, 07:10:30 AM »
Soros, May 27, 2017
Washington Free Beacon
New $80M Anti-Trump Network Spearheaded by Soros-Funded Org With Former ACORN Employees
Network will focus on pushing back against voter laws leading up to the 2018 and 2020 elections
http://freebeacon.com/issues/soros-funded-anti-trump-network-has-acorn-ties/

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Glenn Beck exposé on George Soros, The Puppet Master
« Reply #838 on: February 21, 2018, 07:19:46 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-cHmo85_LA

Long.  Wide ranging.  (He covers the "Open Society Foundation" that is the tie to the owner of the voting machine company.)

Putting it here for reference.

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Re: The electoral process, vote fraud, SEIU/ACORN et al, etc.
« Reply #839 on: February 21, 2018, 08:33:04 AM »
Thank you very much Doug!


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« Reply #841 on: February 28, 2018, 05:01:34 AM »
too bad they couldn't turn CA and Ill Republican ... :evil:

Gee whoever would have guessed we would have big problems when they started making voting electronic?

Certainly no one on DBF.   :wink:


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Re: The electoral process, vote fraud, SEIU/ACORN et al, etc.
« Reply #846 on: March 19, 2018, 06:02:21 AM »
"http://www.newsweek.com/immigrants-are-getting-right-vote-cities-across-america-664467"

Wow .  This is terrible these darn crats are giving 'our' country away for their own f@#$% power!  What is this? 


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Re: The electoral process, vote fraud, SEIU/ACORN et al, etc.
« Reply #847 on: March 19, 2018, 06:26:48 AM »
"http://www.newsweek.com/immigrants-are-getting-right-vote-cities-across-america-664467"

Wow .  This is terrible these darn crats are giving 'our' country away for their own f@#$% power!  What is this? 



It’s the core of their open borders policy. They keep losing with the current electorate, so they are working on replacing it with one more easily controlled.

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NRO: Cambridge Analytica
« Reply #848 on: March 19, 2018, 01:45:35 PM »
   Is Cambridge Analytica Really an ‘Information Weapon’ in a ‘Data War’?
By Jim Geraghty   

March 19, 2018 10:17 AM

(Robert Galbraith/Reuters)

Assuming all the reporting is accurate, Cambridge Analytica used Facebook data that was supposed to be off-limits to it. The firm allegedly paid Cambridge professor Aleksandr Kogan to collect the data on Facebook users and claim it was being used for academic purposes; in reality, Kogan collected and passed along 50 million individual profiles that “could be matched to electoral rolls. It then used the test results and Facebook data to build an algorithm that could analyze individual Facebook profiles and determine personality traits linked to voting behavior.”

No doubt, this is a breach of contract. No doubt, this is unethical. This is going to generate slews of lawsuits.

But does this really constitute manipulating the election, or a form of “data war” or a new “information weapon”? How is this significantly different from any other form of campaign messaging?

Christopher Wylie, the whistleblower at the center of these stories, really makes it sound like mind control: “Cambridge Analytica will try to pick at whatever mental weakness or vulnerability that we think you have and try to warp your perception of what’s real around you.”

Guys . . . it’s Facebook, not a Hypno-Ray or Loki’s staff. At the heart of this is the question of whether a Facebook ad or any kind of clever advertising can get you to do something you otherwise would not do. Sure, an image of delicious food can make you hungry, but does it make you go to the restaurant and eat? Does the car commercial showing the guy driving fast through an empty road in the wilderness make you buy the car? Or does it just persuade you that enjoying that experience is worth the cost of the car?

I’ll put it to my generally right-of-center audience: Do you think there’s some sort of manipulative social-media messaging that could persuade you to vote for, say, Nancy Pelosi?

A common answer is probably, “Well, I’m immune to the manipulative effects of advertising, but a lot of other people are more easily persuaded.” If you really think a decisive portion of the electorate can be easily manipulated into voting for a candidate by slick advertising . . . can there really be such a thing as a free and fair election? (This is how the term “sheeple” gets thrown around.) The subtext of the accusations around Cambridge Analytica is that for a significant portion of Americans, voting for Hillary Clinton was the “rational” choice and some sort of sinister advertising manipulated them into making the “irrational” choice of voting for Donald Trump.

Vox writes, “Cambridge Analytica was also able to use this real-time information to determine which messages were resonating where and then shape Trump’s travel schedule around it. So, if there was a spike in clicks on an article about immigration in a county in Pennsylvania or Wisconsin, Trump would go there and give an immigration-focused speech.”

Okay, except Trump gave immigration-focused speeches his entire campaign — at least to the extent they “focused” on anything. (Haven’t these people watched Trump’s speeches? They’re usually off-the-cuff stream-of-consciousness riffs on whatever he saw on Fox News and Twitter that day.) Did someone really need reams of data from Facebook to conclude that blue-collar workers in Pennsylvania or Wisconsin would be worried about globalization, job security, and competition from underpriced foreign labor?

Campaigns have gathered consumer-research data and used it to target voters for decades. This is how you end up with those odd little factoids like, “Democrats are likely to prefer clearer spirits, like vodka or gin, while Republicans are tend to favor brown liquors, like bourbon or scotch.” Companies keep track of their customers, what they buy, how much they spend, and where they live, to help with future marketing efforts. Most of them are perfectly happy to sell that information to anyone willing to buy it.
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To use an obvious example, assume you’re running a campaign for a pro–Second Amendment candidate in Pennsylvania. You would go to Guns & Ammo and every gun-related publication that is sold in the state, and offer to purchase a list of their subscribers and mailing addresses in the state. Then you would start sending campaign literature touting your candidate’s commitment to gun rights to those addresses.

Honest to goodness, folks, this was considered groundbreaking 14 years ago:

    Republican firms, including TargetPoint Consultants and National Media Inc., delved into commercial databases that pinpointed consumer buying patterns and television-watching habits to unearth such information as Coors beer and bourbon drinkers skewing Republican, brandy and cognac drinkers tilting Democratic; college football TV viewers were more Republican than those who watch professional football; viewers of Fox News were overwhelmingly committed to vote for Bush; homes with telephone caller ID tended to be Republican; people interested in gambling, fashion and theater tended to be Democratic.

    Surveys of people on these consumer data lists were then used to determine “anger points” (late-term abortion, trial lawyer fees, estate taxes) that coincided with the Bush agenda for as many as 32 categories of voters, each identifiable by income, magazine subscriptions, favorite television shows and other “flags.” Merging this data, in turn, enabled those running direct mail, precinct walking and phone bank programs to target each voter with a tailored message.

    “You used to get a tape-recorded voice of Ronald Reagan telling you how important it was to vote. That was our get-out-the-vote effort,” said Alex Gage, of TargetPoint. Now, he said, calls can be targeted to specific constituencies so that, for example, a “right to life voter” could get a call warning that “if you don’t come out and vote, the number of abortions next year is going to go up.”

You know who else focused on using Facebook and “targeted sharing” and created models from data sets to specifically target different groups of voters? The 2012 Obama campaign!

    The Obama team had a solution in place: a Facebook application that will transform the way campaigns are conducted in the future. For supporters, the app appeared to be just another way to digitally connect to the campaign. But to the Windy City number crunchers, it was a game changer. “I think this will wind up being the most groundbreaking piece of technology developed for this campaign,” says Teddy Goff, the Obama campaign’s digital director.

    That’s because the more than 1 million Obama backers who signed up for the app gave the campaign permission to look at their Facebook friend lists. In an instant, the campaign had a way to see the hidden young voters. Roughly 85% of those without a listed phone number could be found in the uploaded friend lists. What’s more, Facebook offered an ideal way to reach them. “People don’t trust campaigns. They don’t even trust media organizations,” says Goff. “Who do they trust? Their friends.”

    The campaign called this effort targeted sharing. And in those final weeks of the campaign, the team blitzed the supporters who had signed up for the app with requests to share specific online content with specific friends simply by clicking a button. More than 600,000 supporters followed through with more than 5 million contacts, asking their friends to register to vote, give money, vote or look at a video designed to change their mind.

    A geek squad in Chicago created models from vast data sets to find the best approaches for each potential voter. “We are not just sending you a banner ad,” explains Dan Wagner, the Obama campaign’s 29-year-old head of analytics, who helped oversee the project. “We are giving you relevant information from your friends.”

The difference is that the Obama campaign persuaded people to use a particular app to reach out to their friends and they consented to the terms of the agreement, while Cambridge Analytica allegedly used data that was obtained fraudulently. If it comes to that, prosecute them for fraud for claiming the data was for academic research when it was being used for private campaign messaging purposes. But let’s not let the voters off the hook for their choices at the ballot box.

After all, it’s not like advertising can make us start doing things we otherwise would never do and say things we otherwise would never say, with just a snap, crackle, pop. We all think different. Ignore the fearmongering and know that you’re in good hands. It’s not like some powerful social-media company can just reach out and touch someone, or just do it. You can have it your way. Because you’re worth it!

Those Unmotivated Trump Voters

Remember during the Obama years, when Democrats fumed that they had a lot of casual supporters who loved the president but who otherwise tuned out politics and wouldn’t show up in non-presidential years?

It’s starting to feel like the circumstances are now reversed:

    Sixty percent of Democratic voters say they have a high degree of interest in the upcoming elections (registering either a “9” or “10” on a 10-point scale), versus 54 percent of Republicans who say the same thing. In addition, 64 percent of 2016 Clinton voters say they have a high level of interest, compared with 57 percent of 2016 Trump voters.

Is it worthwhile to cater to a portion of the electorate that only shows up to vote once every four years?

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« Reply #849 on: March 19, 2018, 02:26:33 PM »
what a joke
we have been discussing for years the tech behemoths , loss of privacy and concern they are using their wares for malfesences

now today because they may have  tread on the political correct crowd it is a big big problem