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Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2015, 08:29:11 AM »
As polls now show Bernie beating Hillary in NH, , ,
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People who follow politics probably know that Bernie Sanders, the U.S. senator from Vermont who is challenging Hillary Clinton for the Democratic presidential nomination, is a socialist. Whether they give a fig is a separate matter, which may tell you something about today’s Democrats.

Mr. Sanders is currently drawing the largest crowds of any candidate in either party. On Monday, he drew a crowd his campaign estimated at 27,500 to the Los Angeles Memorial Sports Arena, including those in an overflow area outside, watching on giant video screens. Over the weekend, 28,000 people turned out to see him in Portland, Ore., and a campaign stop in Seattle pulled 15,000. The conventional wisdom is that Mr. Sanders’s bid is destined to fail. His progressive base is too white and too small for a party that places a premium on “diversity,” and the Democratic establishment has already settled on Mrs. Clinton.

All true, perhaps. The disruption of his Seattle appearance by “Black Lives Matter” protesters suggests that challenges lie ahead for him. But it is also true that no one is saying Bernie Sanders can’t win because America isn’t ready to elect an avowed socialist as president, which might have been the case not too long ago.

Mr. Sanders, a New York City native, moved to Vermont in 1968 after becoming involved with the radical left while attending the University of Chicago. He first ran for Senate in 1972 as the candidate of the socialist Liberty Union Party and garnered just 2% of the vote. He lost a few more statewide races, and then eked out a 10-vote victory in 1981 to become mayor of Burlington. In 1990, running as an independent, he became only the third socialist ever elected to the U.S. House of Representatives. The one preceding him—Victor Berger of Wisconsin—left office in 1929.

Berger was a founding member of the Socialist Party of America, which nominated labor leader Eugene Debs for president five times between 1900 and 1920. The first part of the 20th century was socialism’s heyday. Debs never won a state but he did win almost 6% of the popular vote in 1912, and the party elected about 1,200 candidates to local offices during that period. The socialists, however, with their calls for income redistribution and the nationalization of resources, were never able to compete with Franklin Delano Roosevelt’s coalition of Big Labor, blacks and rural whites in the South.

In 1932, the Socialist Party won just 2% of the vote, and in 1936 it managed less than half of 1%. Depression-era Democrats wanted economic growth, not a cradle-to-grave welfare state. When a 1935 Gallup poll asked voters to assess the amount of government spending on relief and recovery, only one in 10 said spending was too low, and the respondents who said spending was too high outnumbered those who said it was adequate by 2 to 1.

“Socialist parties blossomed in every important country in Europe in the second half of the nineteenth century, mobilizing mass support for expanding the power of the state, both to provide welfare services (such as pensions) and to restrain the power of the market,” write John Micklethwait and Adrian Wooldridge in their 2004 history of U.S. politics, “The Right Nation.” “But in America socialists cast their seed on barren ground.”

Notwithstanding FDR’s New Deal and Lyndon Johnson’s Great Society programs, the authors note, when Ronald Reagan won the presidency in 1980 “on a wave of resentment against ‘big government,’ the United States had a lower tax rate, a smaller deficit as a proportion of GNP, a less developed welfare state and fewer government-owned industries than any other western industrialized nation.”

If the Democratic Party once felt the need to distinguish itself from socialism, that no longer seems to be the case. When Mr. Sanders entered Congress in 1991, “Democrats initially balked at accepting a Socialist in their caucus,” according to the “Almanac of American Politics.” Eventually, however, he was granted seniority status as a Democrat, and he used it to push a progressive agenda that included tax increases, single-payer health care, a 50% reduction in military spending and a national energy policy.

It was working-class voters who backed Debs a century ago, but Mr. Sanders’s socialism appeals mainly to upper-middle-class professionals and fits neatly within the parameters of mainstream, income-inequality-obsessed Democratic politics in the 21st century. He may have an affinity for a political ideology that has given the world everything from the Soviet Gulag to modern-day Greece, but in this age of Obama, the senator is just another liberal with a statist agenda.

Debbie Wasserman Schultz, the head of the Democratic National Committee, was visibly rattled when MSNBC host Chris Matthews asked her recently to explain “the difference between a Democrat and a Socialist.”

Her nonresponse: “The more important question is, ‘What is the difference between being a Democrat and being a Republican?’ ”

Mr. Matthews pressed her: “I used to think there was a big difference. What do you think it is? A Democrat like Hillary and a Socialist like Bernie Sanders.” Ms. Wasserman Schultz refused to answer. And why should she? These days, it’s largely a distinction without a difference.

Mr. Riley, a Manhattan Institute senior fellow and Journal contributor, is the author of “Please Stop Helping Us: How Liberals Make It Harder for Blacks to Succeed” (Encounter Books, 2014).

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Newt on Sen. Bernie Sanders
« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2015, 07:49:39 PM »
Take Bernie Sanders Seriously
Originally published at the Washington Times

It is time to take Bernie Sanders seriously. It is increasingly possible that the 73-year-old socialist from Vermont could be a real contender for the Democratic Party’s nomination for president.

For months observers have scoffed at the idea.

Now we have a poll in New Hampshire which shows Sanders ahead of Hillary Clinton by 44 to 37.

Granted, New Hampshire is next to Vermont. Granted, it is only one poll.

In March, however, Sanders had 8 percent to Clinton's 44 percent. Clinton appeared to be among the most inevitable nominees ever for a non-incumbent.
This is quite a turnaround.

Furthermore, in the same period that Sanders overtook Clinton in New Hampshire, we learned that Clinton had been subpoenaed and forced to turn her email server over to the FBI. The very stories of corruption, sloppiness, and arrogance which have been dragging down her campaign for months are guaranteed to continue. Every day there is another example of Clinton problems.

Sanders, however, is much more than simply the anti-Clinton candidate. This week he drew a crowd of more than 27,000 people in Los Angeles. That is extraordinary.
The reason has less to do with Clinton than with the large and growing left-wing of the Democratic Party which dislikes compromise, Wall Street, big money, and politics as usual. As Matt Bai reported in his brilliant book The Argument, the Democrats have a powerful anti-war, hard-line environmentalist, social activist wing that helped defeat Clinton in 2008.

Bernie Sanders is a genuine socialist and that makes his messages very clear and very direct.

Sanders also has been a practicing politician for a long time. As Mark Steyn has noted, Sanders has spent years building a political machine as a socialist without a party or a large interest group to back him.

As a student, Sanders was a member of the Young People's Socialist League. He began running for public office more than 40 years ago. Finally, in 1981, he was elected mayor of Burlington, Vermont. As mayor of the state’s largest city he had a base on which to build his career. In 1990, he defeated a Republican to become Vermont’s lone congressman. Since Vermont has only one representative, the district is the same as a Senate seat. In 2006, after 16 years in the House, Sanders won the Senate seat.

This is a man who has been winning elections for 34 years. He is serious, energetic and determined.

He is also a good organizer.

As the Washington Post reports, he has been using the internet to build amazing crowds.

In three days he had 70,000 supporters show up in three west coast states, a long way from Vermont and New Hampshire.

He is doing all of this without spending much money.

And as Hillary Clinton gets weaker, he is getting stronger.

The left wing of the Democratic Party is not afraid to nominate a socialist. The left wing of the Democratic Party is socialist.

Everyone should realize that with six more months of Clinton corruption and confusion and six more months of pleasant, steady, and positive ideas from Bernie, the Democrats could easily find themselves on the edge of nominating a self-described socialist for President.

By then it may be too late for someone else to compete.

The last time this happened to the Democrats, they nominated George McGovern even though Hubert Humphrey and others tried to step in at the last minute.

The time to take Sanders seriously is now.

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Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2015, 06:00:07 PM »
It's nice to see the dems embrace their true socialist core.


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WSJ: $18T price tag on BS's proposals
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2015, 08:07:34 AM »
Price Tag of Bernie Sanders’s Proposals: $18 Trillion
Democratic presidential candidate’s agenda would greatly expand government
Sen. Bernie Sanders is proposing an array of federal government programs to fight poverty and income inequality that amount to at least $18 trillion in new spending over a decade. Photo: Associated Press
By Laura Meckler
Sept. 14, 2015 6:58 p.m. ET
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WASHINGTON—Sen. Bernie Sanders, whose liberal call to action has propelled his long-shot presidential campaign, is proposing an array of new programs that would amount to the largest peacetime expansion of government in modern American history.

In all, he backs at least $18 trillion in new spending over a decade, according to a tally by The Wall Street Journal, a sum that alarms conservatives and gives even many Democrats pause. Mr. Sanders sees the money as going to essential government services at a time of increasing strain on the middle class.

His agenda includes an estimated $15 trillion for a government-run health-care program that covers every American, plus large sums to rebuild roads and bridges, expand Social Security and make tuition free at public colleges.

To pay for it, Mr. Sanders, a Vermont independent running for the Democratic nomination, has so far detailed tax increases that could bring in as much as $6.5 trillion over 10 years, according to his staff.
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A campaign aide said additional tax proposals would be offered to offset the cost of some, and possibly all, of his health program. A Democratic proposal for such a “single-payer” health plan, now in Congress, would be funded in part through a new payroll tax on employers and workers, with the trade-off being that employers would no longer have to pay for or arrange their workers’ insurance.

Mr. Sanders declined a request for an interview. His campaign referred questions to Warren Gunnels, his policy director, who said the programs would address an array of problems. “Sen. Sanders’s agenda does cost money,” he said. “If you look at the problems that are out there, it’s very reasonable.”
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Calling himself a democratic socialist, Mr. Sanders has long stood to the left of the Democratic Party, and at first he was dismissed as little more than a liberal gadfly to the party’s front-runner, Hillary Clinton. But he is ahead of or tied with the former secretary of state in the early-voting states of Iowa and New Hampshire, and he has gained in national polling. He stands as her most serious challenger for the Democratic nomination.

Mr. Sanders has filled arenas with thousands of supporters, where he thunders an unabashedly liberal agenda to tackle pervasive economic inequality through more government services, higher taxes on the wealthy and new constraints on banks and corporations.

“One of the demands of my campaign is that we think big and not small,” he said in a recent speech to the Democratic National Committee.

Enacting his program would be difficult, if not impossible, given that Republican control of the House appears secure for the foreseeable future. Some of his program would be too liberal for even some centrist Democrats. Still, his agenda articulates the goals of many liberals and is exerting a leftward pressure on the party’s 2016 field.

The Sanders program amounts to increasing total federal spending by about one-third—to a projected $68 trillion or so over 10 years.

For many years, government spending has equaled about 20% of gross domestic product annually; his proposals would increase that to about 30% in their first year. As a share of the economy, that would represent a bigger increase in government spending than the New Deal or Great Society and is surpassed in modern history only by the World War II military buildup.

By way of comparison, the 2009 economic stimulus program was estimated at $787 billion when it passed Congress, and President George W. Bush’s 2001 tax cuts were estimated to cost the federal treasury $1.35 trillion over 10 years.

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Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders explains the 18 trillion cost
« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2015, 09:22:21 AM »
Where is the Republican fast response team on this?  The view of Bernie Sanders, Obama, Valerie Jarrett, Cass Sunstein, etc. is a threat to the republic as we knew it.  Better be able to explain why they are wrong (rather than just wait for Hillary to implode).

It is naive (or just stupid) to think Sanders is too left to win in America, when the furthest left Senator before him just won twice.  Of course ha can win - unless we have learned something.

Republicans are going to face intense scrutiny and ridicule in the msm and leftists like this are going to get a pass.  Until we figure out how to change that, we play under their rules.

Sanders says he is just shifting private spending to public spending, and will tax the productive sector of the economy to death without figuring in any negative impact from that.  So  what's the big deal?
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http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/09/15/bernie_sanders_responds_to_wsj_claim_his_social_programs_would_cost_18_trillion.html

MITCHELL: Now, today's "Wall Street Journal" itemizes what they say would be the price tag of what you are proposing, the social programs.  $18 trillion over ten years. Is that sustainable given the economy, given where the budget is and the deadlock in Congress?

SANDERS: Andrea, that is not the reality. We will be responding to "The Wall Street Journal" on that.

I think most of the expense that they put in there, the expenditures have to do with the single payer health care system. They significantly exaggerated the cost of that and they forgot to tell the American people in that article that that means eliminating the costs that you incur with private health insurance.

The truth of the matter is right now, as a nation, we spend far, far more on health care per person than do the people of any other nation and yet we continue to have about 30 million people who have no health insurance, many more who are underinsured and we pay, again, by far the highest prices in the world for prescription drugs.

No question to my mind that moving toward a Medicare for all single payer program is the most cost-effective way to provide health care to all of our people.

Second point, which they really didn't get into, is we are going to demand that the wealthiest people and the largest corporations in this country do start paying their fair share of taxes.

When we have massive income and wealth inequality, when 58 percent of all new income is going to the top 1 percent, when you have major corporations in a given year paying zero in federal income taxes, yes, we need real tax reform to bring in substantially more revenue so in fact that we can make sure that every kid in this country who has the ability can go to college, because we are going to make public colleges and universities tuition-free.
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"58 percent of all new income is going to the top 1 percent"

Oddly, that is what happens under leftist taxation, wealth by crony government stimulus, and leftist limits on economic freedom, not what happens under the old Dem idea that 'a rising tide lifts all boats'.

Economic studies consistently show the inability of redistribution tax and spend policies to change inequality.  (See political economics thread)  Whether it is Hillary, Sanders, Biden or whoever, the mantra is: 'double down on failure'.

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Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders, the foreign policy mayor
« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2015, 09:30:53 AM »
As mayor of Burlington, Vermont during the Reagan administration, Burlington City Hall hosted a foreign policy speech by Noam Chomsky. In his introduction, Sanders praised Chomsky as "a very vocal and important voice in the wilderness of intellectual life in America" and said he was "delighted to welcome a person who I think we're all very proud of."
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/08/the-bernie-effect-noam-chomsky-says-sanders-will-push-the-entire-democratic-party-to-the-left/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvZRsdHgxgA

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Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders
« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2016, 05:33:49 PM »
Well, if Slick Hillie is indicted we may be hearing more about Bernie , , ,

In the meantime, ponder this:  Why is he beating various Rep candidates in match ups?!?
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Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders
« Reply #18 on: January 18, 2016, 05:09:25 AM »
Hollywood must be so proud of him.

All they ever do is remind us about the evils of McCarthism and the "black list" when many many hollywood types were communist sympathizers.  So what has changed?

campaign phrases;

"make American great again"

"hope and change"

"f..k the millionaires and billionaires"

He is the second Jew running for the highest office, Joe Leiberman being the first.  But Bernie is the first schmuck

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"I believe in the redistribution of wealth in this nation.”
« Reply #19 on: January 18, 2016, 06:54:39 AM »
He's right inasmuch as this country is indeed ripe for political revolution.

We need three political zones. Socialist, Traditional, and Anything Goes.

https://www.yahoo.com/politics/bernie-sanders-radical-past-how-the-vermont-230255076.html

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Sen. Bernie Sanders shifting sands on gun freedom
« Reply #21 on: January 19, 2016, 10:47:33 AM »
"A free people [claim] their rights as derived from the laws of nature, and not as the gift of their chief magistrate." —Thomas Jefferson, 1774
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Democrats Want to Strip Immunity From Gun Companies
 

Socialist Bernie Sanders was surprisingly moderate about the issue of gun control last May. The Washington Post wrote of Sanders' position then, "When socialism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a concealed firearm — without a permit." Among the issues, Sanders voted on a National Rifle Association-backed bill in 2005 that affirmed gun companies had immunity if one of their firearms were used in a crime or murder — just like a car company would have if someone decided to drive the car into a crowd of people. But Hillary Clinton, the "realistic progressive," believes that she has a backdoor policy that could dismantle the gun industry: remove that immunity from the nation's firearms manufacturers. Her plan would choke up their legal teams with lawsuit after lawsuit when guns are used for illegal acts, not just when manufacturing defects cause firearms to fail.

This week, Sanders, who said he's running "an issue-oriented campaign," indicated he is moving toward Clinton's position. Democrats in Congress introduced a law that would roll back essential parts of the 2005 immunity law and hours before Sunday's debate Sanders said he would support it. He said in the debate that he'd "support stronger provisions," but he doesn't want to make it so a small, community gun shop is liable if it sold a gun later used in a crime. But that's beside the point. The First Amendment is protected by legislation that prevents the sue-happy from muzzling someone's free-speech rights, though the Left regularly attacks free speech and religious liberty. Clinton's idea of stripping gun companies' immunity and siccing lawyers upon them is no less unconstitutional.

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Bernie's taxes
« Reply #22 on: January 19, 2016, 10:50:22 AM »
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Bernie Sanders: "I believe in the redistribution of wealth in this nation.”
« Reply #23 on: January 21, 2016, 08:36:04 AM »
https://www.yahoo.com/politics/bernie-sanders-radical-past-how-the-vermont-230255076.html

Important read.  Don't anyone assume this guy is harmless, especially when he leads Hillary in the first two contests and leads the R frontrunner by 15 points!
http://www.scribd.com/doc/295919133/NBC-WSJ-January-Poll

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https://www.yahoo.com/politics/bernie-sanders-radical-past-how-the-vermont-230255076.html

Important read.  Don't anyone assume this guy is harmless, especially when he leads Hillary in the first two contests and leads the R frontrunner by 15 points!
http://www.scribd.com/doc/295919133/NBC-WSJ-January-Poll

How could he not? It's what commies believe.

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https://www.yahoo.com/politics/bernie-sanders-radical-past-how-the-vermont-230255076.html

Important read.  Don't anyone assume this guy is harmless, especially when he leads Hillary in the first two contests and leads the R frontrunner by 15 points!
http://www.scribd.com/doc/295919133/NBC-WSJ-January-Poll

How could he not? It's what commies believe.

Hear, hear....

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Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders, underwhelming
« Reply #26 on: January 27, 2016, 09:54:04 AM »
Report from the Bernie Sanders appearance in St. Paul last night from a young supporter who attended:

'The rally was fun but she didn't hear anything she hadn't heard from him before.'

The media was more apparently more excited than the attendees:
http://www.startribune.com/sanders-wows-crowds-in-duluth/366619091/
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc2/watch/live-sanders-takes-campaign-to-minnesota-609473603526
http://www.inforum.com/news/3933527-thousands-pack-bernie-sanders-campaign-events-minnesota

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Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders, underwhelming
« Reply #27 on: January 27, 2016, 10:07:05 AM »
Report from the Bernie Sanders appearance in St. Paul last night from a young supporter who attended:

'The rally was fun but she didn't hear anything she hadn't heard from him before.'

The media was more apparently more excited than the attendees:
http://www.startribune.com/sanders-wows-crowds-in-duluth/366619091/
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc2/watch/live-sanders-takes-campaign-to-minnesota-609473603526
http://www.inforum.com/news/3933527-thousands-pack-bernie-sanders-campaign-events-minnesota

He's saving the dynamic stuff about class traitors and the kulaks once he makes it to the general election.

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Re: Bill Clinton's Labor Secretary says Bernie can win
« Reply #29 on: January 28, 2016, 08:21:39 AM »
https://www.facebook.com/RBReich/videos/1142259599119968/

Robert Reich is an idiot and a leftist but he is right on this.  Not only can Bernie win, he is winning.  He is poised to beat Hillary in the first two contests while she is poised to face charges or a pardon for mismanagement of the last job she held and deadlines have passed for others to jump in.  Bernie leads the R frontrunner by double digits nationwide.  If it is Trump and Sanders and Bloomberg steps in , it will be the so called advocate for the little guy against two fat cat billionaires.  A perfectly set table for Bernie Sandinistas.

(http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/05/28/bernie-sanders-supported-socialist-sandinistas-honeymooned-in-ussr/)


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A zen koan for Sen. Bernie Sanders
« Reply #30 on: January 28, 2016, 01:30:29 PM »
What is whiter?  A Sanders rally or the Oscars?

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Sandernistas define socialism
« Reply #31 on: February 02, 2016, 05:59:26 PM »

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The appeal of Sen. Bernie Sanders
« Reply #32 on: February 05, 2016, 09:35:48 PM »

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heh heh
« Reply #33 on: February 06, 2016, 07:28:29 AM »

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Re: The appeal of Sen. Bernie Sanders
« Reply #34 on: February 06, 2016, 10:01:31 AM »
We better be ready for this:

https://www.facebook.com/ezraklein/videos/10153962372523410/

Why does Bernie want to turn America into the kind of country his father fled?

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Re: The appeal of Sen. Bernie Sanders
« Reply #35 on: February 06, 2016, 10:56:26 AM »

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Bernie gets burned
« Reply #36 on: February 07, 2016, 10:58:17 AM »

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Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders
« Reply #39 on: February 09, 2016, 06:42:20 AM »
GM,

LOL vote for bern and we crash and burn

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Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders
« Reply #42 on: February 10, 2016, 02:40:15 PM »
I still don't get where this guy gets his power from - Sharpton.  Why he goes to WH 150 times.

Why everyone seems to need to court him.

Just don't get it.

A large number of Blacks know he is a charlatan.

 :|

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Re: Sen. Bernie Sanders
« Reply #43 on: February 10, 2016, 04:21:36 PM »
Answer:  Master of playing on white guilt.


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Bernie Sanders, Socialism is not as hot as its Spokesman
« Reply #48 on: February 11, 2016, 06:52:13 PM »
Instapundit Glenn Reynolds, USA Today, http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2016/02/11/glenn-reynolds-socialism-bernie-sanders-young-millennial-voters-column/80169668/#
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Glenn Reynolds: Socialism not as hot as its spokesman

Glenn Harlan Reynolds

Socialism is all the rage among America’s youth. Or is it?

The evidence in favor of that proposition is that Bernie Sanders — despite being considerably older than Hillary Clinton, who is herself no spring chicken — is doing vastly better among young voters. Sanders, who has almost always identified as a socialist, is nonetheless running for the Democratic nomination.
(Sanders is, he says, a “democratic socialist.” A socialist is someone who wants politicians to decide who gets what; a “democratic socialist” wants the politicians to at least stand for election first.)

The result has been for many smart people, like Joel Kotkin, to write that Millennials are heeding the ”siren call of socialism.” And socialism does have a siren call — essentially, the promise that if you vote for socialists, they’ll take stuff away from other people and give it to you. Since many people would rather have free stuff given to them in the name of “fairness” than have to work to get their own stuff, it’s never hard to round up votes with that approach. As the saying goes, a government that robs Peter to pay Paul can count on getting Paul’s vote.

Still, it’s concerning, because the history of the 20th century was basically that of the swath of destruction left across the globe by socialist ideas, from the international socialism of the Bolsheviks and the Soviet Union to the national socialism of Adolf Hitler and his National Socialist German Workers' Party.
Socialism usually starts with talk of “fairness,” but it generally ends in tyranny and poverty. As Alan Kors wrote back in 2003: “No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: ‘No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into.’”

Nowadays, of course, the horrors of socialism are largely forgotten. As Nate Silver writes:
"Bernie Sanders proudly describes himself as a 'socialist' (or more commonly, as a 'democratic socialist'). To Americans of a certain age, this is a potential liability. I’m just old enough (38) to have grown up during the Cold War, a time when 'socialist' did not just mean 'far left' but also implied something vaguely un-American. If you’re older than me, you may have even more acutely negative associations with 'socialism' and may see it as a step on the road to communism. If you’re a few years younger than me, however, you may instead associate ‘socialism’ with the social democracies of Northern Europe, which have high taxes and large welfare states. Sweden may not be your cup of tea, but it isn’t scary in the way the USSR was to people a generation ago.

"Indeed, views of socialism are highly correlated with a voter’s age. According to a May 2015 YouGov poll, conducted just before Sanders launched his campaign, a plurality of voters aged 18 to 29 had a favorable view of socialism. But among voters 65 and older, just 15% viewed socialism favorably, to 70% unfavorably."

And even the Nordic democracies resent the term “socialist.” Denmark’s Prime Minister Lars Lokke Rasmussen even took exception to Sanders’ characterization of the Danes as socialists, commenting: “I would like to make one thing clear. Denmark is far from a socialist planned economy. Denmark is a market economy." Rasmussen conceded that “the Nordic model is an expanded welfare state which provides a high level of security to its citizens,” but he insisted that it is “a successful market economy with much freedom to pursue your dreams and live your life as you wish.” Sweden, too, has become more free-market than it was in the 1960s.

Want real socialism? Look at Venezuela, an oil-exporting nation that is now dead broke even as the family of its socialist dictator, Hugo Chavez, reportedly somehow inherited billions at his death in 2013. Redistribution of wealth often seems to involve redistributing most of it to the people on top of the socialist pyramid.

But there’s some good news, according to Silver: Even though young Americans say they like socialism, they also say that they don’t like redistribution of wealth. Writes Silver: “It’s possible that Sanders will trigger a shift toward more support for economic redistribution in the future, but there hasn’t been one yet.” The percentage of young Americans who support redistributing wealth is almost the same as it was in 1996.

So since you can’t have socialism without redistribution of wealth (with a large part being retained by the redistributors, of course) then what’s this all about? Silver notes that those young Americans supporting Bernie Sanders have a lot in common with the young Americans who support another older figure with heterodox economic views, libertarian Ron Paul: “What’s distinctive about both the Sanders and Ron Paul coalitions is that they consist mostly of people who do not feel fully at home in the two-party system but are not part of historically underprivileged groups. On the whole, young voters lack political influence. But a young black voter might feel more comfortable within the Democratic coalition, which black political leaders have embraced, while a young evangelical voter might see herself as part of a wave of religious conservatives who long ago found a place within the GOP. A young, secular white voter might not have a natural partisan identity, however, while surrounded by relatively successful peers.”
So at this point, the enthusiasm for Sanders may be as much a search for something different as it is an endorsement of Sanders’ 1930s-era economic views. Given the failure of the two party establishments, it’s not entirely surprising that young people are looking elsewhere. Their votes are up for grabs, for those who are willing and able to offer something different. For the sake of the country, let’s hope those votes are won by people who are able to offer something different, and constructive, at the same time.

Glenn Harlan Reynolds, a University of Tennessee law professor, is the author of The New School: How the Information Age Will Save American Education from Itself, and a member of USA TODAY's Board of Contributors.

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By Laura Meckler And
Rebecca Ballhaus
Feb. 12, 2016 1:14 p.m. ET
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WASHINGTON—In nearly every speech, Bernie Sanders reminds voters that he doesn’t have a super PAC, doesn’t want money from Wall Street and rejects establishment politics.

Yet the Vermont senator has benefited from at least $1.5 million in backing from super PACs and from political groups that don’t have to fully disclose their donors, according to filings with the Federal Election Commission.

As a member of Congress, he regularly attended retreats with Wall Street lobbyists and other donors, and as a candidate for the Senate, he benefited from money that indirectly came from them. Last year, he directly accepted about $55,000 in Wall Street contributions for his Democratic presidential campaign, FEC filings show.

To be sure, former secretary of state Hillary Clinton has raised far more from Wall Street donors, taking in $2.9 million last year, and the super PACs helping her collected $14.3 million from financial firms, about 30% of their total haul, according to an analysis from the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics. She has helped raise money for her primary super PAC, while Mr. Sanders hasn’t raised funds for outside groups. Overall, Mrs. Clinton raised $112 million last year, compared with $75 million raised by Mr. Sanders.

Mrs. Clinton says outside contributions supporting her campaign don’t influence her judgment. Mr. Sanders says that, for him, such contributions don’t exist. “I’m the only candidate up here…who has no super PAC,” he said Thursday during a Democratic debate.

He may not have formed one of his own, but Mr. Sanders is getting help from National Nurses United for Patient Protection, a super PAC that gets its money from the nation’s largest nurses’ union, with nearly 185,000 members.
Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont walked through downtown Concord, N.H., on Feb. 9. ENLARGE
Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont walked through downtown Concord, N.H., on Feb. 9. Photo: Spencer Platt/Getty Images

The union doesn’t have to disclose its donors, but a spokesman said the super PAC money comes exclusively from members’ dues. Representatives from the union have frequently joined the senator at events and this week launched a bus tour across South Carolina ahead of the state’s Feb. 27 primary. At an Iowa campaign stop, Mr. Sanders thanked the group for being “one of the sponsors” of his campaign.

In a five-minute video posted online by the nurses union in October, Mr. Sanders said he was “honored” to have the union’s support and highlighted his work on its members’ behalf. He promised to make it a “national priority” to focus on issues important to the union, including training more nurses. A spokesman for the union said the video was screened at its October convention.

Sanders spokesman Michael Briggs said labor unions have long worked for candidates, and that this one is working to ensure health care for all. “You’re talking about nurses, nurses, one of the most trusted professions in the country,” he said, “versus millionaires and billionaires on Wall Street.”

But Mrs. Clinton’s supporters also can point to labor support for her super PAC. At least $7 million given to Priorities USA Action came from labor unions, including $1 million last year from the American Federation of Teachers.

The battle over the influence of special interests began in earnest in New Hampshire. Mr. Sanders has been suggesting that Mrs. Clinton is influenced by Wall Street campaign donations. On Monday, she replied by drawing attention to Mr. Sanders’s 2006 race for the Senate, when he benefited from $200,000 in contributions from the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, known as the DSCC, which is charged with electing Democrats—and accepts significant contributions from Wall Street interests.

“Sen. Sanders took $200,000 from Wall Street firms, not directly but through the Democratic Senate Campaign Committee,” she told a rally in Manchester. “You know, there was nothing wrong with that. It hasn’t changed his view. Well, it didn’t change my view or my vote, either.”

Sanders campaign manager Jeff Weaver responded by pointing to much larger Wall Street contributions benefiting Mrs. Clinton. He said the money from the DSCC comes from many places including individuals, labor and environmental groups. “To say that every nickel that Bernie received came from Wall Street is beyond preposterous,” Mr. Weaver said.

Five of the top 20 givers to the DSCC in the 2006 election cycle were Wall Street firms, two were law firms and the rest were senators’ political committees. The top giver that year was Mrs. Clinton’s campaign committee, which gave $2 million. Goldman Sachs Group gave $685,050.

Mr. Sanders has also regularly attended the DSCC’s retreats, either during the winter in Florida or during summer on Martha’s Vineyard, including one as recently as July. Guests at the retreats are donors who have donated the maximum amount to the party, or raised more than $100,000. Many attendees are lobbyists, lawyers and members of the financial industry.

Similarly, at the 2008 Democratic National Convention, Mr. Sanders attended a luncheon with a group of roughly 30 senators and donors who had given the maximum to the DSCC for five years in a row, or a total of $500,000. The group was called the “Legacy Circle,” had been organized by New York Sen. Chuck Schumer, a Democrat, with the goal of enticing more donors to pass that threshold.

Several donors who have attended the retreats said Mr. Sanders fully participated in the events, including socializing, and didn’t take the opportunity to tell Wall Street lobbyists that, as he says on the stump, their industry’s business model is fraud.

“He was just like any other senator hobnobbing with lawyers and lobbyists from DC,” said Rebecca Geller, a Washington attorney who attended with her husband, a financial services lobbyist. Ms. Geller, who has donated to Mrs. Clinton’s campaign, said Mr. Sanders was happy to take photos with her family. “My kids have fond memories of him hanging out by the hot tub.”

—Colleen McCain Nelson contributed to this article.

Write to Laura Meckler at laura.meckler@wsj.com and Rebecca Ballhaus at Rebecca.Ballhaus@wsj.com