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« on: August 03, 2016, 02:36:38 PM »
So ERic Adelson feels  that Ibtihaj Muhammad should be the US flag bearer in the Olympics because this is "who we are now" and that is NOT politicizing the choice.

Yeah right!  :-P

Team USA Opening Ceremony flag bearers

A look at the athletes who’ve carried the flag for Team USA over the years in the Olympics Opening Ceremonies.
RIO DE JANEIRO – Every four years, the United States gets to tell a distinctly American story in a very unique way — by selecting a flag bearer for the Summer Olympics Opening Ceremony. This year, the U.S. chose a story that has been told before.

The selection of Michael Phelps, as decided by athlete vote, is certainly a good one. He is the greatest Olympian of all time, not only synonymous with his sport but someone who has lifted swimming in an unprecedented way. The fact that Phelps is so familiar to all audiences is a tribute to how hard he’s worked and how much he’s accomplished. He is a legendary American.

But the choice of flag bearer is an opportunity to say, “This is who we are.” Everyone around the world knows Phelps is who we are. But not everyone knows the stories of some of the other candidates, and why they are so meaningful. Not everyone knows the story of Ibtihaj Muhammad.

Muhammad, raised by a police officer and a teacher, is a fencer who went to Duke, where she got degrees in African and African-American Studies and International Relations. She is also a devout Muslim. She will become the first American Olympian woman to compete in a hijab.

Too often, the sight of a hijab or even the mention of “Muslim” brings misconception and fear. Just recently, there was a woman on an airplane who asked to move seats because she saw a woman in a hijab texting “Allah” on her phone. At a recent presidential town hall event, one voter in New Hampshire challenged the candidate to replace TSA workers in hijabs.

“Why aren’t we putting our military retirees on that border or in TSA?” she asked. “Get rid of all these hebee-jabis they wear at TSA. I’ve seen them myself. We need the veterans back in there to — they’ve fought for this country and defended it, they’ll still do it.”

Lost on this voter was the fact that many of those who wear hijabs have represented our country, served our country and sacrificed for our country. There are nearly 6,000 Muslims in the military, according to the Department of Defense. Many Muslims have died for our country, and that was made powerfully clear in Khizr Khan’s speech at the Democratic National Convention. He is a Gold Star parent, as his son gave his life defending the U.S. in Iraq in 2004. The media has focused on what Khan’s speech means for the upcoming election, but Khan’s turn in the spotlight has brought more attention to the complex meaning of being Muslim in America. So did Kareem Abdul-Jabbar’s speech. So did the national reflection on the passing of Muhammad Ali.

The easy response to support for Ibtihaj Muhammad as flag bearer is that choosing her would be “politicizing” the Opening Ceremony. That it would be picking sides in a heated presidential race.

But this argument doesn’t hold up. Choosing Muhammad would have simply been an expression of America’s diversity, and that in these Games, because of her accomplishment, we are a little more diverse than ever. This is not only who we are, but this is who we are now.

Other Olympians tell a similar story of change and growth. Carlin Isles missed his chance as a sprinter in 2012 and now comes to Rio as a rugby player in the sport’s return to the Olympics after nearly a century. Bernard Lagat is here, at age 41, as the oldest American Olympic runner ever. Jordan Burroughs fought extremely hard to keep wrestling as an Olympic sport. Water polo player Tony Azevedo is in his fifth Olympics, returning to the city of his birth.

[Fourth-Place Medal: Phelps meets idol Novak Djokovic in Rio]

It’s not that these choices would have been better than Phelps. These are all American heroes, and when the team walks into the Maracana Stadium on Friday, all Olympians are the same. But Phelps has had, and will always have, the opportunity to tell his own story. He will always have a rapt audience for whatever he does. The flag bearer gets a once-in-a-lifetime chance to tell his or her story simply by walking in with Old Glory. He or she also gets to tell the evolving story of a nation. America is different now than it was in 2012, and in 2008.

That’s the best story to tell, in the Opening Ceremony and in every Olympics.
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Re: olympics
« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2016, 06:44:28 AM »
So far the olympics are pretty good.

I wish though they would stop showing so much volley ball particularly beach volley ball which i have not idea why is an olympic sport.


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2028 Olympics to LA
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2019, 05:32:40 AM »
https://www.westernjournal.com/jared-kushner-good-america-bad-obstructionist-left/

Why not New Jersey or Minnesota or GM's or Bigdog's hideouts?

 :|

I actually got tickets to the Atlanta '96 games and when I could not really find a place to stay wound up giving them to someone I knew in Atlanta.

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Re: 2028 Olympics to LA
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2019, 06:15:52 AM »
https://www.westernjournal.com/jared-kushner-good-america-bad-obstructionist-left/

Why not New Jersey or Minnesota or GM's or Bigdog's hideouts?

I actually got tickets to the Atlanta '96 games and when I could not really find a place to stay wound up giving them to someone I knew in Atlanta.

Colorado was awarded the 1976 winter Olympics and then backed out.  Voters refused to allow $5 million for the games and didn't want the tourists and traffic clogging up their ski areas and mountain roads.
http://mentalfloss.com/article/31291/no-thanks-why-denver-turned-down-1976-olympics

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Re: 2028 Olympics to LA
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2019, 02:23:54 PM »
https://www.westernjournal.com/jared-kushner-good-america-bad-obstructionist-left/

Why not New Jersey or Minnesota or GM's or Bigdog's hideouts?

 :|

I actually got tickets to the Atlanta '96 games and when I could not really find a place to stay wound up giving them to someone I knew in Atlanta.



LA will make Rio look good in comparison.

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new *cause* du jour
« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2024, 10:10:48 AM »
https://www.msn.com/en-us/video/peopleandplaces/muslim-wrestler-can-t-wear-hijab-to-compete/vi-AA1ntrto?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=66717917a4d64aaf9d45872385eb1e26&ei=21

she can't take the damn thing off her head and legs stockings off for several minutes and be dressed like everyone else?

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It just never ends.........

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The woke gay war on Christians
« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2024, 08:50:38 AM »

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leftist behind the attacks
« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2024, 08:17:06 AM »
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/france-hit-with-second-act-of-olympic-sabotage/ar-BB1qPsXE?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=4083678c1f164fd48d065bc289531615&ei=9

funny I would have jumped to the CNN MSLSD conclusion it was FAR right like the proud boys behind these attacks.

but will there be any arrests and REAL punishment?


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Is a hypogonadal man still stronger than a woman
« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2024, 06:53:36 AM »
That is the question
The answer is, I strongly suspect is of course.

We keep hearing the IOC telling us testosterone levels in the male to female trans are not above the cutoff level and even less then some women as an excuse to allow men to compete in female sports.

I find that if this is the only criteria they are using then that is nonsense.

One would have ED and fatigue and lose some strength but I would bet the average hypogonadal man would still be stronger then the average woman .

Why has no one questioned this?

In a quick internet search I don't see anything about this.

Hopefully someone will read the forum and interview real experts on the subject and provide answers.
God, I hope it isn't politically correct Sanjay Gupta.

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Is a hypogonadal man still stronger than a woman, men in women's sports
« Reply #12 on: August 02, 2024, 08:34:22 AM »
Good questions ccp.  Yes we apparently need a study (not taxpayer funded) about strength in transition.

Men are stronger than women, that's why we have the sports controversy.

Also, don't the men who say they are now women have a right of privacy to not have their privates and their health history examined?  Their transition is their business.  Why are they making it mine?

I don't think I'm old fashioned to say there are two genders.  If you are a man who took hormones and had parts removed or added, you are a man who took hormones and had parts removed or added.

Those who say there are more than two genders are entitled to their opinion also.  But the contradictions overwhelm.  If there are more than two genders, why do we have born males in female sports (still binary).  Start your own gender?  Start your own events.  Define them the way you want or where you can get consensus.  What level of transition is needed to be gender three and gender four etc. and what will they be called.  It's not my interest.

If you have freedom of speech to say a person born as a boy/man is now a girl/woman, don't I have freedom of speech (and science on my side) to say you are not?

We could just eliminate all of it and be a genderless society.  But like not keeping score in child soccer, the goalies know the score.  Are we better off being a genderless society?  No.  No in so many ways and one of them is girls and women's sports.  Girls were (almost) always welcome in boys sports  but most were unable to do that, based on strength and other factors.  Girls competing with girls is what makes it fair (enough).

Most wanted women out of combat.  That's men's work, protecting the women and children.  Is that wrong, old fashioned thinking?  One of the ramifications of the Equal Rights Amendment was to take away that distinction in law.  Radical Left women wanted women in combat and they won on that front.  Conservative women fought against that

Now we have DEI Secret Service, firefighters and so on.  Are we better off for it?  Maybe having them in addition to men but not instead of men.

"Renee" Richards started the gender change issue in sports in my recollection.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ren%C3%A9e_Richards

The man is stronger than the woman, on average and at every point on a bell curve.

Serena Williams (tennis) also was stronger than the other women in her sport.  It gave her an advantage, but she IS a woman.  We can't require you to be weak or average, but we can require you to be a woman in women's sports.

My Mom was a state champion (women's) golfer, friend of Patty Berg etc.  She was strong as a man, an average man, but not as strong as the top men.  She could beat 99% of men I suppose, but not come close to beating any of the top men in golf.  I watched the top women (amateurs) play the same course that Jack Nicklaus, Arnold Palmer, Gary Player, Johnny Miller played two weeks later.  It's not the same game.  On the first hole at Hazeltine, top men were hitting a long wedge for the second shot to the green where women were hitting a wood or reaching in 3.  And that's a non-contact sport mostly about touch, finesse, consistency, but it's also about strength.
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hill billy hill on transgenders in sports
« Reply #13 on: August 02, 2024, 08:55:18 AM »
the self-proclaimed icon of women's rights around the globe cannot figure out what to say about Trans in women's sports

https://www.them.us/story/hillary-clinton-clarifies-transgender-women-comments

I would like to hear her come up with some BS twisted both sides of her lyin mouth argument that she thinks will satisfy both sides and yet at the same time, in reality satisfies no one.


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Re: Olympics
« Reply #14 on: August 02, 2024, 12:33:28 PM »


"I don't think I'm old fashioned to say there are two genders."

Here is how my mind organizes it.  There  are two SEXES, male and female.

The sophistry arises with the substitution of the word "gender".

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"I am a woman"
« Reply #15 on: August 04, 2024, 09:23:51 AM »
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/boxing/gender-row-boxer-imane-khelif-cries-i-am-a-woman-after-guaranteeing-olympic-medal/ar-AA1obcRf?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=20bc32992e43435e9df1fc7e0b01183e&ei=13

Let me get this straight.
This person with XY chromosomes was brought up a girl?

We are missing something.

Micropenis?
hermaphrodite?

I am not trying to be funny or sarcastic.




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Indian wrestler misses weight by ~ 1/5 pound
« Reply #16 on: August 07, 2024, 07:23:19 AM »
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/paris-olympics-indian-wrestler-disqualified-from-gold-medal-match-in-womens-50kg-after-missing-weight-084916292.html

I recall in high school wrestling our best wrestler had trouble making weight so he took ex lax.

He lost the mat because he pooped in the uniform on the mat.
No one to my knowledge could tell so he got off in time.

The coach told us never to pull that again.

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now they are making it a women's issue
« Reply #17 on: August 07, 2024, 10:36:17 AM »
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/olympic-disqualification-of-gold-medal-hopeful-exposes-dark-side-of-women-s-wrestling/ar-AA1ooSXy?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=fd9f9d2ab48946f1f88e1a7106b43987&ei=33

This is not a women's issue!!!!

For God sakes.

Anybody who wrestles knows about making weight.
She knew the rules.
She dehydrated herself was up all night and then had to go to hospital to get hydrated.
How healthy is that?


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Move over Gal Gadot
« Reply #18 on: August 10, 2024, 06:53:51 AM »

Gal Gadot, an Israeli actress, is best known for playing Wonder Woman in the DC Extended Universe movies1. She won the Miss Israel pageant at the age of 18

we have a real new wonder woman who is a US citizen but of Israeli parents:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/non-enjoyable-anymore-amit-elor-reveals-negativity-around-wrestling-career-despite-bagging-gold-medal-at-paris-olympics/ar-AA1oxqfR?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=d58c8077e71a4f6b86ab5bb062a8ec68&ei=12

I wonder how she would do in the men's division?   :-o

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Algerian male boxer who won gold in women's division suing Musk and Rowling
« Reply #21 on: August 13, 2024, 08:01:10 PM »
of course some woke Democrat lawyers taking up some baloney "criminal " case for the men pretend women boxer:

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/elon-musk-jk-rowling-named-in-imane-khelifs-cyberbullying-criminal-complaint-in-france-report-231651034.html

so now anit - woke / loon speech is criminal.
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