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WSJ: Democrats for Eavesdrop Abuse
« Reply #550 on: February 26, 2018, 05:27:33 AM »
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Democrats for Eavesdrop Abuse
Their intel memo confirms the FBI used Clinton research to spy on Carter Page.
By The Editorial Board
Feb. 25, 2018 5:41 p.m. ET
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The House Intelligence Committee on Saturday released the long-awaited Democratic response to allegations the FBI abused its surveillance powers during the 2016 election. Committee Chairman Devin Nunes owes ranking Democrat Adam Schiff a thank you for assisting his case.

The 10-page Democratic memo begins by declaring that “The FBI and DOJ officials did not ‘abuse’ the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) process, omit material information, or subvert this vital tool to spy on the Trump campaign.” Yet the facts it lays out show the opposite.

In particular the memo confirms that the FBI used an opposition-research document paid for by the Hillary Clinton campaign and Democratic National Committee as part of its application to surveil Carter Page, who was associated with the Donald Trump campaign.

Democrats dispute the degree to which the FBI relied on the dossier created by opposition-researcher Christopher Steele in applying for its FISA court order, but that’s beside the point. If the FBI had as much “compelling evidence” and “probable cause” as the memo asserts, it would not have needed to cite the Steele document. And the Democrats do not dispute that the Steele dossier was the FBI’s only source in its initial FISA application for its allegation that Mr. Page met with suspect Russians in Moscow in July 2016.

The Democratic memo makes no attempt to rebut the widely reported news that former Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe told Congress that the FBI would not have sought a surveillance warrant without the dossier. Democratic Rep. Jim Himes claimed on “Fox News Sunday” that Mr. McCabe never said that, but then why not put that in the memo?

The Democratic memo also confirms that the FBI withheld from the court the partisan provenance of the dossier. Democrats even provide, for the first time in public, the precise language the FBI used in its initial application in a long, obfuscating footnote.

Democrats say the FBI told the FISA court that a “law firm” [Clinton/DNC firm Perkins Coie] hired “an identified U.S. person” [oppo-research firm Fusion GPS co-founder Glenn Simpson ] to “conduct research regarding Candidate #1s ties to Russia.” The “identified U.S. person” then hired “Source #1” [Mr. Steele] to do the research. The footnote ends: “The FBI speculates that the identified U.S. person was likely looking for information that could be used to discredit Candidate #1’s campaign.”

Speculates? Likely? Could? The dossier was paid for by actors whose overriding purpose was to defeat Mr. Trump. Nowhere do Democrats say the FBI used the words “political” or “partisan” or “campaign,” much less Clinton or Democratic National Committee.

The Democratic memo claims the FBI acted “appropriately” in not “revealing” the name of an “entity” in a FISA application, but this is laughable. The FBI sometimes masks identities to preserve sources and methods, but the Steele dossier was a pastiche of gossip and rumor based on Mr. Steele’s contacts. Disclosing his partisan funders would have betrayed no important intelligence sources but would have given the court reason to ask the FBI for more credible information before granting an eavesdrop order.

Messrs. Steele and Simpson briefed their media friends in September and October about their dossier, despite FBI prohibitions. The FBI nonetheless falsely told the court that Mr. Steele wasn’t the source of a Yahoo News article that it used as additional evidence in its application. While the Democratic memo repeatedly refers to Mr. Steele’s reporting as “reliable” and “credible,” it confirms that the FBI fired Mr. Steele after it found he hadn’t told the truth about his media spinning.

The Democratic memo devotes considerable space to smearing the hapless Mr. Page, as if he’s some kind of master spy and the Rosetta Stone of the Trump-Russia story. Yet no one has offered proof that he colluded with the Russians, and he hasn’t been indicted.

Democrats also make much of the fact the FBI started looking into the Trump campaign in July 2016 but didn’t receive “Steele’s reporting” until “mid-September.” So what? The issue here is the fairness and honesty of the FISA application in late October (not the investigation), and what matters is that the FBI didn’t move on the FISA application until after it received the dossier.
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The only definitive evidence of political “collusion” so far is that the Clinton campaign paid Mr. Steele to troll his Russian sources for dirt on Donald Trump. The FBI then used this dirt as a reason to spy on Mr. Page and anyone he was communicating with. Imagine how the press would be playing this story if the roles were reversed?


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Andrew McCarthy asked the very same question
« Reply #552 on: March 01, 2018, 07:20:30 AM »
a month or so ago-- and his surmise was that maybe there was stuff there that the President would NOT want seeing the light of day.

The WSJ editorial here makes some very relevant points and asks some very pertinent questions

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Trump vs. Jeff Sessions
If he really wants FBI answers, why not declassify everything?
By The Editorial Board
Feb. 28, 2018 7:35 p.m. ET


Anyone who serves in a presidential cabinet understands that the job comes with people trying to undermine you. But in the Trump Administration the undermining too often seems to come from the President.

That’s the pickle Jeff Sessions finds himself in. On Wednesday morning President Trump used Twitter to call his Attorney General “DISGRACEFUL!” for asking the Justice Department’s inspector general to look into possible eavesdropping abuse by the FBI. Mr. Trump went on a similar tear in July, when he accused Mr. Sessions of being “VERY weak” in handling the Hillary Clinton investigations.

Mr. Trump prides himself on his business acumen, but we don’t know a CEO who thinks the way to get the best out of subordinates is to humiliate them in public. Mr. Sessions is Attorney General because Mr. Trump chose him. If Mr. Trump’s purpose is to goad Mr. Sessions into resigning, he ought to know that he’s unlikely to get a replacement through the Senate. That means the department would be run by someone Mr. Trump might like even less, e.g., Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein.

In his tweet the President also derided Inspector General Michael Horowitz as “an Obama guy.” It’s true his appointment dates to 2012, but the IG was also appointed to the federal sentencing commission by George W. Bush. In 2012 Mr. Horowitz released a scathing report on the Obama Justice Department’s handling of “Fast and Furious,” a botched operation that put weapons in the hands of Mexican drug cartels. Mr. Trump might also recall that when the FBI said it couldn’t find 50,000 texts between FBI lovers Peter Strzok and Lisa Page, Mr. Horowitz announced that his office had recovered them.

Unlike in July, this time Mr. Sessions responded publicly that Justice had “initiated the appropriate process” to investigate the FBI issues. He added that as long as he is AG, he’d continue to discharge his duties “with integrity and honor” and the department would do its work “in a fair and impartial manner.”

Mr. Trump has a point about investigations dragging on without conclusions. But a big reason is that key government institutions, including the FBI and Justice, have stonewalled efforts to get answers. Yet for some reason he refuses to use his presidential power to declassify the FISA court and FBI documents so the public can judge.

Instead of whining about Mr. Sessions, Mr. Trump could order him to appoint someone at Justice with the sole responsibility of making public the documents that would give the American people the answers they deserve.

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New Line of Attack by Mueller; George Nader
« Reply #553 on: March 03, 2018, 06:45:55 PM »
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/03/us/politics/george-nader-mueller-investigation-united-arab-emirates.html?emc=edit_na_20180303&nl=breaking-news&nlid=49641193&ref=cta

WASHINGTON — George Nader, a Lebanese-American businessman, has hovered on the fringes of international diplomacy for three decades. He was a back-channel negotiator with Syria during the Clinton administration, reinvented himself as an adviser to the de facto ruler of the United Arab Emirates, and last year was a frequent visitor to President Trump’s White House.

Mr. Nader is now a focus of the investigation by Robert S. Mueller III, the special counsel. In recent weeks, Mr. Mueller’s investigators have questioned Mr. Nader and have pressed witnesses for information about any possible attempts by the Emiratis to buy political influence by directing money to support Mr. Trump during the presidential campaign, according to people with knowledge of the discussions.

The investigators have also asked about Mr. Nader’s role in White House policymaking, those people said, suggesting that the special counsel investigation has broadened beyond Russian election meddling to include Emirati influence on the Trump administration. The focus on Mr. Nader could also prompt an examination of how money from multiple countries has flowed through and influenced Washington during the Trump era.

How much this line of inquiry is connected to Mr. Mueller’s original task of investigating contacts between Mr. Trump’s campaign and Russia is unclear. The examination of the U.A.E. comes amid a flurry of recent activity by Mr. Mueller.

Last month, investigators negotiated a plea agreement with Rick Gates, Mr. Trump’s deputy campaign manager, and indicted 13 Russians on charges related to a scheme to incite political discord in the United States before the 2016 election.

In one example of Mr. Nader’s influential connections, which has not been previously reported, last fall he received a detailed report from a top Trump fund-raiser, Elliott Broidy, about a private meeting with the president in the Oval Office.

Mr. Broidy owns a private security company with hundreds of millions of dollars in contracts with the United Arab Emirates, and he extolled to Mr. Trump a paramilitary force that his company was developing for the country. He also lobbied the president to meet privately “in an informal setting” with the Emirates’ military commander and de facto ruler, Crown Prince Mohammed bin Zayed al-Nahyan; to back the U.A.E.’s hawkish policies in the region; and to fire Secretary of State Rex W. Tillerson.

A copy of Mr. Broidy’s memorandum about the meeting was provided to The New York Times by someone critical of the Emirati influence in Washington.

Mr. Trump has closely allied himself with the Emiratis, endorsing their strong support for the new heir to the throne in Saudi Arabia, as well as their confrontational approaches toward Iran and their neighbor Qatar. In the case of Qatar, which is the host to a major United States military base, Mr. Trump’s endorsement of an Emirati- and Saudi-led blockade against that country has put him openly at odds with his secretary of state — as well as with years of American policy.


Mr. Nader, 58, made frequent trips to the White House during the early months of the Trump administration, meeting with Stephen K. Bannon and Jared Kushner to discuss American policy toward the Persian Gulf states in advance of Mr. Trump’s trip to Saudi Arabia in May 2017, according to people familiar with the meetings. By some accounts, it was Mr. Bannon who pushed for him to gain access to White House policymakers. Others said Mr. Kushner backed him.

Reached by phone last month, Mr. Nader said he had dinner guests and would call back. He did not, and attempts to reach him over several weeks were unsuccessful. Mr. Nader’s lawyer did not respond to messages seeking comment.

The White House did not respond to requests for comment. In a statement, a spokesman for Mr. Broidy said his memorandum had been stolen through sophisticated hacking.

“We have reason to believe this hack was sponsored and carried out by registered and unregistered agents of Qatar seeking to punish Mr. Broidy for his strong opposition to state-sponsored terrorism,” said the spokesman, adding that Mr. Broidy had also made the accusation in a letter to the Qatari ambassador in Washington.

Yousef al-Otaiba, the Emirati ambassador to the United States, declined to comment. Axios first reported Mr. Mueller’s questioning of Mr. Nader.

Mr. Nader has long been a mysterious figure. In the 1990s, he presided over an unusual Washington magazine, Middle East Insight, which sometimes provided a platform for Arab, Israeli and Iranian officials to express their views to a Washington audience.

On the magazine’s 15th anniversary, in 1996, a West Virginia congressman praised Mr. Nader on the floor of the House, calling him a “recognized expert on the region” and pointing out that the magazine had been a showcase for prominent figures such as President Hosni Mubarak of Egypt, Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin of Israel, and Yasir Arafat, the head of the Palestine Liberation Organization.

“He always struck me as a person who really thought he should be in the eye of the storm trying to make things happen,” said Frederic Hof, a former top American diplomat who knew Mr. Nader in the 1990s.

Late in that decade, Mr. Nader convinced the Clinton administration that he had valuable contacts in the Syrian government and took on a secretive role trying to broker a peace deal between Israel and Syria. Working with Ronald S. Lauder, the American cosmetics magnate and prominent donor to Jewish causes, Mr. Nader shuttled between Damascus and Jerusalem, using his contacts in both capitals to try to negotiate a truce.
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Elliott Broidy, a top Republican fund-raiser, with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel in 2008. Credit David Carp/Wallenberg Committee, via Associated Press

“In the 1990s, George was a very effective under-the-radar operator in the peace process,” said Martin S. Indyk, a former American ambassador to Israel and a member of a team put together by President Bill Clinton to negotiate peace deals between Israel and its neighbors.

“Then, he disappeared.”

Indeed, a man with a once very public profile in Washington effectively vanished from the capital’s policy scene, and his magazine ceased publication in 2002.


During the middle part of the last decade, Mr. Nader appears to have spent most of his time in the Middle East, especially in Iraq after the 2003 invasion. He developed close ties to national security officials in the Bush White House.

Erik Prince, the founder of Blackwater USA, the private security company now known as Academi, at one point hired Mr. Nader to help the company generate business deals in Iraq. In a 2010 deposition that Mr. Prince gave as part of a lawsuit against the company, Mr. Prince described Mr. Nader as a “business development consultant that we retained in Iraq” because the company was looking for contracts with the Iraqi government.

Mr. Prince said that Mr. Nader was unsuccessful in getting contracts, and that senior Blackwater officials did not work directly with him.

“George pretty much worked on his own,” he said.

At the beginning of the Obama era, Mr. Nader tried to parlay his ties to the Syrian government into access to senior members of President Barack Obama’s foreign policy team, while also seeking to advance business deals with former advisers to President George W. Bush.

By the time of the 2016 election, he had become an adviser to Prince Mohammed of the U.A.E. According to people familiar with the relationship, it was around Mr. Trump’s inauguration that Mr. Nader first met Mr. Broidy, the Republican fund-raiser, who is a California-based investor with a strong interest in the Middle East.

Mr. Broidy’s security company, Circinus, provides services to both United States agencies and foreign governments. Run by former American military officers, Circinus promises on its website that it “can employ personnel worldwide to provide physical force protection to individuals, groups or facilities within austere, hostile environments” as well as conducting “specialized operations, infrastructure protection, and training.”

Mr. Broidy, 60, had once stumbled into legal trouble over payments to a political figure. In 2009, he agreed to plead guilty to a misdemeanor charge for providing $1 million in illegal gifts to New York State pension authorities, including trips, payouts and a secret investment in a film called “Chooch” that was produced by an official’s brother. In exchange for the gifts, the state pension fund invested $250 million with an Israeli-based investment management firm that Mr. Broidy had founded. He reimbursed the pension fund for $18 million in fees.

After the inauguration, Mr. Nader became friendly with Mr. Broidy and introduced him to Prince Mohammed. Circinus then signed contracts with the United Arab Emirates worth several hundred million dollars, according to people familiar with the arrangement.

By Oct. 6, Mr. Broidy had evidently become close enough to both the prince and Mr. Nader to send a detailed memorandum to an encrypted email address used by Mr. Nader recounting his advocacy on the U.A.E.’s behalf during the meeting with Mr. Trump in the Oval Office amid an afternoon of stops throughout the White House.

An ally of the White House involved in one of the initiatives discussed — a counterterrorism task force — said Mr. Broidy sent the memorandum because he had been asked by the crown prince to seek the president’s views on the idea. Mr. Broidy believed that the creation of the task force would aid American security, this person said.

According to the memo, Mr. Broidy repeatedly pressed Mr. Trump to meet privately with Prince Mohammed, preferably in an informal setting outside the White House.

“I offered that M.B.Z. is available to come to the U.S. very soon and preferred a quiet meeting in New York or New Jersey,” Mr. Broidy wrote to Mr. Nader, using the crown prince’s initials. “President Trump agreed that a meeting with M.B.Z. was a good idea.”

Mr. Broidy wrote that he had twice told Lt. Gen. H. R. McMaster, the national security adviser, that the crown prince “preferred an informal setting to meet one on one with President Trump.” But General McMaster resisted. “LTG McMaster smiled and replied that heads of state usually meet in the White House,” as “protocol dictates.”

In his memorandum, Mr. Broidy recounted that he had told Mr. Trump that he recently returned from meeting with the crown prince about Circinus work for the U.A.E. Mr. Broidy had explained “the exciting and transformational plan being constructed by M.B.Z. to develop a counterterrorism task force,” which Mr. Broidy told the president was “inspired” by his speech at a conference in Riyadh.

Mr. Broidy was harshly critical of the crown prince’s neighbor and nemesis, Qatar. The U.A.E. has accused Qatar, an American ally, of using its satellite network Al Jazeera to promote political Islam, among other allegations.

Mr. Trump also asked about Mr. Tillerson — who had publicly criticized the isolation of Qatar — and Mr. Broidy said that the secretary of state should be fired. “Rex was performing poorly,” Mr. Broidy said, according to the memorandum.

In between the discussions of diplomacy, business and statecraft, Mr. Broidy wrote, he and the president “spoke for several minutes about politics and the fund-raising efforts for the midterm elections as well as the state of affairs at the R.N.C.,” or the Republican National Committee.
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Re: The Russian conspiracy with the Left - opposing US energy production
« Reply #555 on: March 07, 2018, 07:32:51 AM »
Credit to John Hinderaker of Powerline (among others) for pointing this out and a Congressional report linked below for documenting it.

Details and sample ads moved to cyberwar thread for further discussion:
http://dogbrothers.com/phpBB2/index.php?topic=1586.msg109291#msg109291
« Last Edit: March 07, 2018, 08:28:06 AM by DougMacG »

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Re: The Russian conspiracy, Comey, related matters
« Reply #556 on: March 07, 2018, 07:48:42 AM »
Doug:

You raise a great point and illustrate it really well, but I'm thinking the Cyberwar thread will be a better place for continuing the discussion.


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Re: The Russian conspiracy, Comey, related matters
« Reply #558 on: March 14, 2018, 06:04:37 PM »
Very interesting conversation tonight between Martha MacCaullum and Isikoff, covering Trey Gowdy saying that yes the Russian meddling favored Trump.  Can someone find and post it please?


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Cover for action
« Reply #560 on: March 17, 2018, 08:18:19 PM »



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Re: The Russian conspiracy, Comey, related matters
« Reply #563 on: March 19, 2018, 10:12:07 AM »
MCabe, 49 at his firing, did not lose his pension.  He lost access to some early retirement benefits.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/03/mccabe-pension-benefits-not-lost/

If he's not in jail, or even if he is, he can still probably write a book.
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ccp:  "he may still be able to appeal and STILL get his well deserved revoking of his pension reversed"

That's good, he deserves a right of appeal - just so all his crooked work and criminality on the job gets aired in the appeal.

I hope they have a long, contested public hearing.


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Re: The Russian conspiracy, Comey, related matters
« Reply #565 on: March 19, 2018, 02:35:33 PM »
well I have another question. why is a guy who is 50 able to retire anyway?

I can see a police officer who needs to get physical, but a pencil pushing FBI agent?

Am I missing something?

needs time to write his book get lucrative private industry job, media consultant, or get on some corporate board because of contacts I guess
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Re: The Russian conspiracy, Comey, related matters
« Reply #566 on: March 19, 2018, 02:40:45 PM »
Welcome to (part of) the world of civil service.  No offense to the good ones intended and not all have cush deals, but this kind of contract is not available if you work a career in the private sector.

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Re: The Russian conspiracy, Comey, related matters
« Reply #567 on: March 20, 2018, 05:01:40 AM »
A subject better for the Bureaucracy thread , , ,

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a good read on the attempted coup
« Reply #568 on: March 23, 2018, 10:31:33 AM »


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American Spectator: The Real Andrew McCabe
« Reply #570 on: March 25, 2018, 08:34:24 AM »
Though the article skims over the possibility of certain counter arguments, very much worth reading:

https://spectator.org/the-real-andrew-mccabe/

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Re: The Russian conspiracy, Comey, related matters
« Reply #574 on: March 28, 2018, 09:10:50 AM »
Comey , CNN's favorite homey. 

http://thehill.com/homenews/media/380628-cnn-to-host-town-hall-with-comey-next-month

First he was a hero when he corruptly along with Lynch and the One let Hillary slide

Then he was a goat when he publicized some new email thing about the old hag.  Now he is a hero again for being justly fired.

"they love me , they love me not, they love me they love me not"

Nothing he can say will change my mind

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Uranium One and a real threat from Russia
« Reply #579 on: April 03, 2018, 06:42:00 PM »

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Re: The Russian conspiracy, Comey, related matters
« Reply #580 on: April 03, 2018, 07:46:14 PM »
Do you have any experience with that site?

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Re: The Russian conspiracy, Comey, related matters
« Reply #581 on: April 03, 2018, 08:04:57 PM »
Do you have any experience with that site?

I started reading it after instapundit.com started linking to it's stories. I haven't seen Glenn Reynolds link to a bogus site yet.

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Comey and the Pulse nightclub shooting
« Reply #582 on: April 05, 2018, 07:06:33 AM »


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Andrew McCarthy: on the Rosenstein memo's deficiencies
« Reply #584 on: April 08, 2018, 12:09:08 PM »

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/04/russia-investigation-rod-rosenstein-memo-mueller-probe-limits/?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=WIR%20-%20Sunday%202018-04-08&utm_term=VDHM

It is Andrew McCarthy so of course it is very good.  Here it is a discussion of the distinction between a counter-intel investigation and a criminal investigation, with links referring back to other matters of relevance.
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Dershowitz rips Mueller
« Reply #585 on: April 08, 2018, 01:40:48 PM »
This is a shocking statement.  Wondering why Trump doesn't hire Dershowitz?  Maybe he already asked him.

Clearly he is right that Mueller's job is to "get Trump" - not necessarily the truth.  This should all be rapped up by now but Mule will keep it going as long as he and his partisan team can

Repubs who support Mueller (with such blurbs about his integrity tc) are stupid or just as anxious to get Trump or both.  Anybody can see it already:

https://www.newsmax.com/politics/alan-dershowitz-mueller-political-zealot/2018/04/08/id/853235/



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Re: The Russian conspiracy, Comey, related matters
« Reply #589 on: April 09, 2018, 09:04:16 PM »
raiding Trump's attorney's office home and temporarily lodging. 

Like they did to Manafort.

Yet Hillary's place was never raided , her attorneys were able to actually pick and choose what they wanted to turn over with emails and electronic evidence and then one or two were cut deals 'before' they asked questions. 

System is rigged against conservatives and for Dems . 

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Re: The Russian conspiracy, Comey, related matters
« Reply #590 on: April 10, 2018, 04:35:25 AM »
Of all that I have heard so far Judge Napolitano's assessment makes the most sense to me:

To raise the payoff money Trump's lawyer fibbed to the bank about the reason for the loan. This constitutes bank fraud.

If I have this right, bank fraud can get you up to thirty years in prison.

Mueller, purportedly to stay within the framework of Rosenstein's authorization directive, handed this off to the Southern District of NY, now headed by a Trump appointee.  He assessed the validity of whether the special criteria for grabbing a lawyer's files were met and found that they were.  He found a judge who agreed.

Apparently the process is that now a FBI agent will review the files to filter out those not relevant to the charge with the relevant files going to the prosecuting attorney.

What happens to the other files?

Good question!!! 

Reads to me like the FBI would then have a remarkable bird's eye view of Trump's affairs to inform them where to look to give Trump shit for the rest of his life.

One commentator I heard suggested that Trump's lawyers would be wise to move that the files be reviewed by a judge instead.

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Re: The Russian conspiracy, Comey, related matters
« Reply #591 on: April 10, 2018, 12:17:42 PM »
"move that the files be reviewed by a judge instead."

Yes.  This makes sense to me.  Probably too late.  FBI agents of questionable intent are already probably having a field day with whatever they are finding.

Attorney-client privilege?  Whatever.  The case against Trump is not criminal; it is political.  Find it.  Leak it.  Others will take it from there.

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Re: The Russian conspiracy, Easiest job in America...
« Reply #592 on: April 10, 2018, 01:30:18 PM »
First this, ccp:  "Yet Hillary's place was never raided"

They didn't seize data and hard drives under subpoena that were refused and delayed to investigators and oversight.  The double standard is glaring.  Worse than than anything we have seen before. 
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I noticed this yesterday.  Easiest job in America, being Bob Mueller's spokesman:


“Peter Carr, a spokesman for the special counsel’s office, declined to comment.”

Since Mueller’s office never says anything outside court publicly, who knew he had a spokesman or needed one?

https://nypost.com/2018/04/08/time-for-mueller-to-lay-it-all-out/

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Why would we think they're lying about this?  It's what they do.  No one holds them to account.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/03/career-government-servants-distort-truth/

Our Unelected Officials’ Distortions
By VICTOR DAVIS HANSON
March 29, 2018 6:30 AM

Why haven’t we held career government servants in the intelligence community and the Department of Justice accountable for their fabrications?
On March 17, former CIA director John Brennan tweeted about the current president of the United States: “When the full extent of your venality, moral turpitude, and political corruption becomes known, you will take your rightful place as a disgraced demagogue in the dustbin of history. . . . America will triumph over you.”

That outburst from the former head of the world’s premier spy agency seemed a near threat to a sitting president, and former U.N. ambassador Samantha Power tweeted that it probably was: “Not a good idea to piss off John Brennan.”

If there is such a thing as a dangerous “deep state” of elite but unelected federal officials who feel that they are untouchable and unaccountable, then John Brennan is the poster boy.

Immediately after the 2008 election of Barack Obama, the careerist Brennan quickly reinvented himself as a critic of the very methodologies that he once, as a George W. Bush administration official, had insisted were effective. Brennan was initially appointed Obama’s top counterterrorism adviser and then took over the CIA after the abrupt and mysterious resignation of General David Petraeus following the 2012 election.

Brennan claimed that intelligence agencies had not missed clear indications in 2009 that Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, the so-called “underwear bomber,” would try to take down a U.S. airliner. Just days later, when his denials were ridiculed, Brennan flipped and blasted intelligence agencies for their laxity.

In 2011, Brennan falsely alleged that the Obama administration’s drone program had not caused a single civilian death in Pakistan over the previous year. In truth, around 50 civilians had been killed by drones since the 9/11 attacks.

The same year, Brennan offered various versions of the American killing of Osama bin Laden. His misleading narratives required White House revisions.

In March 2014, Brennan denied accusations that CIA analysts had hacked the computers of U.S. Senate staffers to find out what they knew about possible CIA roles in enhanced interrogations. After he was caught in a lie, Brennan was forced to apologize to members of the Senate Intelligence Committee.


Most recently, in May 2017, Brennan testified under oath before Congress that he had no knowledge during the 2016 presidential campaign of the origins of the Fusion GPS/Christopher Steele dossier. Nor, Brennan claimed, was he aware that the FBI and the Department of Justice had used the infamous file to obtain surveillance warrants from the FISA court before and after the election.

Several sources, however, have said that Brennan was not only aware of the Steele dossier, but wanted the FBI to use it to pursue rumors about Trump. Brennan reportedly briefed Democratic senator Harry Reid on the dossier. Armed with those rumors, Reid then became insistent that they be leaked before the 2016 election, according to reports.

Brennan is typical of the careerist deep state.

Former national-security adviser Susan Rice lied about the Benghazi tragedy, the nature of the Bowe Bergdahl/Guantanamo detainee exchange, the presence of chemical weapons in Syria, and her role in unmasking the identities of surveilled Americans.

Andrew McCabe, recently fired from his job as FBI deputy director, openly admitted to lying to investigators, claiming he was “confused and distracted.” McCabe had said that he was not a source for background leaks about the investigation of the Clinton Foundation. He wrote in an op-ed for the Washington Post that “some of my answers were not fully accurate . . .”

Former FBI director James Comey likely lied about not drafting a statement exonerating Hillary Clinton of wrongdoing in her email scandal before interviewing her.

Comey misled a FISA court by not providing the entire truth about the Steele dossier. He falsely assured the president that he was not under investigation while likely leaking to others that Trump was, in fact, under investigation.

Former director of national intelligence James Clapper lied under oath to the Senate Intelligence Committee when he said that the National Security Agency did not collect data on American citizens. When caught in the lie, Clapper claimed that he had given the “least untruthful” answer to the committee that he could publicly provide.

In the past, Clapper had also misled the country about the “secular” nature of Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood and the threat posed by the Islamic State.

Note that Brennan, Clapper, Comey, McCabe, and Rice so far have not been held to account for their distortions. We cynically expect our politicians and even presidents to fabricate, but we idealistically (and naïvely) assume that career government servants do not.

A common strategy of the deep-state careerist is the psychological tactic known as “projection.” To square their own circles of lying, our so-called best and brightest loudly accuse others of precisely the sins that they themselves commit as a matter of habit.

In the ensuing chaos and uproar, careerists such as Brennan, Clapper, and Comey usually escape scrutiny — to proceed to their next political reincarnation, Beltway billet, book deal or television gig.





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Attorney Cohen raid, stormy; Andrew McCarthy "The Mini-Mess"
« Reply #594 on: April 12, 2018, 05:26:05 AM »
If Cohen acted alone on the hush money, the raid of his office did not pierce the attorney client relationship in that regard.  But what about all the other documents they are going to find and make more referrals?  If the hush money constitutes a "campaign contribution", that is an opinion not a fact and is minor on a scale of 1/20th of violations committed by the Obama campaign in 2008, not even counting the 'Facebook contribution'.

Unless they had something really big that we don't know yet to trigger this, I think they lost the country with their jack booted thug tactics.  Andrew McCarthy writes about the mini-mess that trump is now in.  It doesn't look good for Trump but it's all speculation at this point.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/04/the-cohen-searches-and-trumps-de-mini-mess/
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Re: The Russian conspiracy, Comey, related matters
« Reply #595 on: April 12, 2018, 08:32:22 AM »
"I think they lost the country with their jack booted thug tactics."

I doubt it.  The Left is cheering them.

The MSM is having fun and ratings with this.

The academics enjoy this.  Even many of the Repubs are happy it seems.

 Holocaust survivors seem to think it is the target Trump not the thug tactics that reminds them of Nazi Germany.  Perhaps being in a concentration camp has scrambled their brains

If I recall my hero Elie Wiesel was a fan of at least some of Trump's policies - at least regarding Israel.  His head was still on right .   

I have to admit that if Trump wasn't such and impulsive narcissist a lot of this likely would have been avoided.  Most of his policies have been great .

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Re: The Russian conspiracy, Comey, related matters
« Reply #596 on: April 12, 2018, 09:52:27 AM »
"I think they lost the country with their jack booted thug tactics."

I doubt it.  The Left is cheering them.

The MSM is having fun and ratings with this.

The academics enjoy this.  Even many of the Repubs are happy it seems.
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Yes, the Left and MSM are cheering before having any idea of the facts or if these tactics were justified.  Their hypocrisy is glaring.  Imagine the reverse situation.

So many of these news stories require us to wait and see, and it goes on for years.  Lasting damage is done with early false reports but their excesses have tended to be their downfall.

Beyond the hardcore Left, quite a few people are going to be underwhelmed if none of this is about collusion.  If another of his contacts gets a criminal charge not directly related to the point of the investigation, it won't hurt Trump, just energize those who already hated him..

Jack booted thugs can break down doors but documents randomly found under these circumstance will have limited legal and political value IMHO, except if the probable cause was rock solid and they found exactly what they thought they would find and would not have gotten in any other way.  Then good for them; let the chips fall where they may.

Trump and Pence won a four year term.  I don't think they will get my guy Pence in any scenario so they can only paralyze this administration, not truly bring it down.  What they have on Trump, if anything, still hasn't been reported or leaked and very likely has nothing to do with Russia, the point of the badly authorized investigation.  Maybe his lawyer went too far trying to hide Trump's dirt and faces charges.  I doubt there is a business document signed by Trump that says rough up these women.  If this comes down to business practices from his previous career, I highly doubt it leads to the removal of Trump from office.

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Re: The Russian conspiracy, Comey, related matters
« Reply #597 on: April 13, 2018, 06:41:51 AM »
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Remember the pink haired, liberal, gay dude who confessed all his sins about Cambridge Analytica? He is James Comey.

Remember the pink haired, liberal, gay dude who confessed all his sins about Cambridge Analytica? He is James Comey.

What happened in that story was a leftwing guy got embedded among conservatives. Those conservatives beat the left. So the guy had to tell the left the leftwing fan fiction they wanted to hear about the evil conservatives and Mercer family in order to be welcomed back into polite society.

Everything you knew just had to be true was true in his telling. He was a genius and the Cambridge Analytica team did massively illegal things to cause Trump to win and he is so sorry. Never mind that it simply wasn't true and Cambridge Analytica really did nothing majorly unique and certainly didn't do anything illegal with the Facebook data.

This is the story of confession and repentance that had to be told so the guy could rejoin his tribe.

That is what is happening with Comey. Everything you believe is true in your fan faction is true if that will help Comey be welcomed back into polite society without the scorn of causing Hillary to lose.

This is, let us not forget, the man the left blames for Hillary's loss. How ever will he be welcomed back into polite society and allowed to walk the halls of Ivy League campuses without being assaulted? By telling the left what they want to hear about Trump.

Comey's book is an act of confession and redemption. The truth does not matter. What the left wants to be true is what matters. He will tell them what they want to hear and maybe then he can go teach at Harvard without Black Lives Matter and the women-gender studies professors protesting.


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« Reply #598 on: April 13, 2018, 08:02:45 AM »
"Comey's book is an act of confession"

Justice depends on polling and outcomes?

James Comey confesses:
"It is entirely possible that, because I was making decisions in an environment where Hillary Clinton was sure to be the next president, my concern about making her an illegitimate president by concealing the restarted investigation bore greater weight than it would have if the election were closer or if Donald Trump were ahead in all polls. But I don’t know."

John Hinderaker:  "This is a stunning admission. The FBI Director was following the polls and assumed that Hillary had the election in the bag. (Not surprising, given that Comey is an out-of-touch swamp denizen.) If the election had been close, he may have kept the FBI’s renewed investigation to himself. But since Hillary was sure to win anyway, he felt it was safe to announce the restarted investigation based on Anthony Weiner emails."
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2018/04/james-comey-confesses.php

Hillary must be furious at Huma for getting her into that mess but she met Weiner through their mutual connection to the Clintons.  Bill Clinton serving as the officiant at their wedding.  Who didn't vet whom?
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https://spectator.org/how-comey-lied-about-spying-on-trump-tower/
He leaked, lied, bent rules, treated FBI material as his own personal property, violated confidential conversations, and generally acted like a government unto himself.

So here was an FBI director using the front page of a newspaper to libel a sitting president, all while a FISA warrant based on Hillary’s campaign research, which gave Comey the power to reach into Trump Tower, sat on his desk.

look at his scummy maneuvering in response to Trump’s “wiretap” tweets. Those tweets turned out to be entirely accurate: The Obama administration was intercepting communications at Trump Tower, both during the campaign and the transition. Comey knew perfectly well that Trump was right.

Comey had a story placed in the New York Times shortly after Trump’s tweets: “Comey Asks Justice Department to Reject Trump’s Wiretapping Claim.” It quoted Comey’s leakers, “senior American officials,” as saying that Trump’s assertion was “false” and that the FBI director had asked the Justice Department to refute it.

Meanwhile, Comey sat back as Jim Clapper, another dolt he could manipulate, reinforced his lie on television, which the Times included in its story to bolster Comey’s leak:

Senior law enforcement and intelligence officials who worked in the Obama administration have said that there were no secret intelligence warrants regarding Mr. Trump. Asked whether such a warrant existed, James R. Clapper Jr., a former director of national intelligence, said on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” “Not to my knowledge, no.”

“There was no such wiretap activity mounted against the president-elect at the time, as a candidate or against his campaign,” Mr. Clapper added.

Think about that: Comey, with the Carter Page warrant in hand (which gave Comey the power to rifle through Trump Tower communications both past and future), planted a story in the Times, designed to make Trump look like a lunatic, that makes use of a Clapper quote Comey knew to be false. What a weasel.
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Comey is the ultimate professional?  
"His hands(?) are [Trump's] smaller than mine..."
Not quite as juicy as Anderson Cooper and Stormy Daniels.

Libraries will struggle with the question of where to shelve this book, fiction or non-fiction? They need a section for 'profit-seeking'.
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Re: The Russian conspiracy, Comey, related matters
« Reply #599 on: April 13, 2018, 09:03:04 AM »
Doug writes :

"His hands(?) are [Trump's] smaller than mine..."

question mark noticed.  Mark Rubio could be thinking ,

"you know what they say about people with small hands"

 :-P

I don't know what to say other then Trump started all this with his total clumsiness
If he had just fired Comey in a respectful dignified way ........... 

Interesting that Trump was dignified in the way he spoke of Ryan who (lied a few weeks back saying he was not going to retire)  just announced his retirement) .