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VDH -> where does Trump go from here?
« Reply #50 on: November 05, 2021, 04:11:23 PM »

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Re: Citizen Trump
« Reply #51 on: November 05, 2021, 05:37:07 PM »
 :-D

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Re: VDH -> where does Trump go from here?
« Reply #52 on: November 05, 2021, 05:49:24 PM »
https://amgreatness.com/2021/11/03/trump-nearing-the-crossroads/

VDH did read my email to him!

 :wink:

"Open borders, huge deficits, the Afghanistan catastrophe, looming stagflation, empty shelves, bottlenecked ports, soaring energy prices, toxic critical race theory, the disastrous previews of the Green New Deal, a weaponized federal government, and the addled decline of Biden himself have done more than just collapse support for the president and his policies."

Well written line!

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trump to netanyahu "f u"
« Reply #54 on: December 10, 2021, 03:51:58 PM »
more moronic stuff from Trump because he was insulted :

https://www.newsmax.com/politics/netanyahu-israel-trump-biden/2021/12/10/id/1048211/

netanyahu is not your stooge , stooge

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Trump. comments on Jews Israel etc
« Reply #55 on: December 18, 2021, 11:42:29 AM »
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-bandies-anti-semitic-tropes-224031396.html

as a Jew I am not offended by these statements at all.
I only wonder if the Democrat Jews hate Israel as much as they hate America

Jews do not control the world
but anyone with half a  brain can see we do have an enormous clout in our politics
financial  sector and in corporate media sectors etc

much more then would be expected for 2.4% of the total US population






 

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Re: Citizen Trump
« Reply #56 on: December 18, 2021, 12:03:59 PM »
Agreed!

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Re: Citizen Trump
« Reply #57 on: December 18, 2021, 12:22:46 PM »
and certainly in our legal area
too

be a doctor or lawyer was the creed !

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Re: Trump. comments on Jews Israel etc
« Reply #58 on: December 18, 2021, 04:04:06 PM »
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-bandies-anti-semitic-tropes-224031396.html

as a Jew I am not offended by these statements at all.
I only wonder if the Democrat Jews hate Israel as much as they hate America

Jews do not control the world
but anyone with half a  brain can see we do have an enormous clout in our politics
financial  sector and in corporate media sectors etc

much more then would be expected for 2.4% of the total US population

Also agree.  It's not anti-semitism; he's making a valid political observation.  It's the columnist who is making an accusatory  opinion under the heading of "news".

They have risen to levels in important industries higher than "then would be expected for 2.4% of the total US population"...

  - Isn't that a compliment?

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Re: Citizen Trump
« Reply #59 on: December 19, 2021, 08:06:17 AM »
".They have risen to levels in important industries higher than "then would be expected for 2.4% of the total US population"...

  - Isn't that a compliment? "

Absolutely, but I would feel better about it if most of those were not crazy rabid Democrat partisans.

The of the most viscous political conivers are many fellows in my group.




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Re: Citizen Trump
« Reply #60 on: December 19, 2021, 08:49:34 AM »
Caught him on Bartiromo this morning. 

Good.



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Re: Citizen Trump
« Reply #63 on: December 20, 2021, 02:20:49 PM »
That is what happens with the compromised.

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Re: Citizen Trump
« Reply #64 on: December 20, 2021, 03:42:19 PM »
it really is UNBELIEVABLE to think
one of the great pandemics

was "man made"
in a lab

No surprise China would cover it us the liars they are.

We are told labs all around the world are doing the same kind of research ..........  :-o

And Fauci who said such lab work is worth the risk
  now denies all of it.

If we can't trust our own front medical man on this who can we trust ?

We know China will exterminate anyone along with their family if the speak the truth.



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Re: Citizen Trump
« Reply #65 on: December 20, 2021, 06:29:48 PM »
"man made" in a lab

  - Let's call the release an accident, but they closed off Wuhan, Hubei to the rest of China but let the virus travel to the rest of the world.

"Fauci who said such lab work is worth the risk
  now denies all of it."

  - He told us a mask won't help before he told us to double mask.  Now he IS science.  Meanwhile our $6 trillion government gives us us thousands each in dollars but not one good mask. Which one solves the problem, money in your pocket or an N95 over your face?  Count on them to do whatever is wrong.

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Rove: Citizen Trump
« Reply #67 on: December 23, 2021, 09:30:41 AM »
Complete and Total Trump Campaign!
The former president’s obsession with the 2020 election may lead to GOP losses in the next two.
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President Trump has formally endorsed 85 Republican candidates so far this year, probably far more than any other president so soon after leaving office. He’s backed incumbents, primary challengers and candidates in open races for everything from the Senate and House down to state representatives and even a small-town mayor’s office, often with statements offering his “Complete and Total Endorsement!”

Mr. Trump is likely doing this to maintain his hold over the GOP and keep open the possibility of a 2024 White House run. He also gets to enjoy a steady stream of supplicants arriving at his Mar-a-Lago estate or Bedminster, N.J., golf course to seek his backing.

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Some recipients of his endorsements are Trump populists. Others are more-traditional Republicans, a few of whom didn’t seek his affirmation and learned about it from Twitter. Many are in strong GOP districts or states and lack serious Democratic opposition, leaving the impression that Mr. Trump wants to pad his win-loss record.

Settling scores is a high priority for the former president. Ohio Rep. Anthony Gonzalez supported Mr. Trump’s impeachment following the Jan. 6 assault on the Capitol. Mr. Trump endorsed his primary opponent, a Trump White House staffer named Max Miller, and Mr. Gonzalez subsequently announced he wouldn’t run in 2022. The Ohio Legislature then cut up the seat in redistricting, putting Mr. Miller in a Democratic-leaning district. Mr. Trump is backing primary opponents to other Republican House members who supported his impeachment, but that hasn’t led to any other withdrawals so far.

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That may be because Mr. Trump’s endorsement is hardly a guarantee of an election victory for his chosen candidate. Take two cases earlier this year. The former president endorsed a Republican in a Texas special congressional election, Susan Wright, who lost in July to another Republican, state Rep. Jake Ellzey. In the Pennsylvania Senate GOP primary, Mr. Trump’s endorsed candidate, Sean Parnell, ended his campaign in November after losing a child-custody case in which his former wife alleged he abused her and their children.


More primary defeats may be coming for Trump-backed candidates. In the Alabama Senate GOP primary, Mr. Trump endorsed Rep. Mo Brooks, who has failed to ignite much enthusiasm. Mr. Brooks’s opponent, former Business Council of Alabama president and ex-Senate aide Katie Britt, has outraised and outcampaigned him and is supported by the state’s powerful Alabama Farmers Federation. Mr. Trump was reportedly impressed when he met Ms. Britt and her husband, former New England Patriots offensive tackle Wesley Britt, at an August rally in Alabama, causing him to question his decision to back Mr. Brooks. The latest poll has Mr. Brooks at 31% and Ms. Britt at 26%, pointing toward a runoff.

Still, Mr. Trump’s political sway won’t be measured only in primary victories but also in how many of his favorites fare in general elections in swing states and competitive districts. All these candidates face a critical choice: Should they focus on Mr. Trump’s claims that the 2020 election was stolen to protect their endorsement? Or should they make their race about providing a check on President Biden and risk incurring Mr. Trump’s wrath?

This question faces dozens of Republican candidates in Senate, House and gubernatorial races, but the clearest test of Mr. Trump’s message will be races for secretary of state in Arizona, Georgia and Michigan. He backs candidates who are making the alleged theft of the 2020 election their main issue. Is this smart? A Public Religion Research Institute poll from November suggests it isn’t. Its results show that 31% of Republicans, 72% of independents, and 92% of Democrats—and 67% of the overall electorate—rightly don’t believe the 2020 election was stolen. These three secretary of state contests will show the strength of Mr. Trump’s possible 2024 messaging.

Where many politicians are parsimonious about endorsements, carefully weighing the risks and rewards of tying their brand to the fortunes of lesser-known candidates, Mr. Trump has defied convention. His endorsement seems often to depend on how vocally a candidate is willing to support his claim that the 2020 election was stolen through widespread fraud, and not so much on a candidate’s viability. This leaves Mr. Trump backing candidates who will likely falter in the general election.


In his business career, Mr. Trump put his name on everything from steaks to menswear to vodka, with mixed results. Now he risks more than diluting his personal brand. Mr. Trump could help some Democrats hang on in an otherwise devastating election cycle in 2022 by forcing their opponents to harangue voters about an unpopular topic. If the GOP can’t learn to shake the Trump obsession with alleged election fraud, the former president could even hand Democrats the White House—again.

Mr. Rove helped organize the political-action committee American Crossroads and is author of “The Triumph of William McKinley” (Simon & Schuster, 2015)

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Re: Citizen Trump
« Reply #69 on: December 24, 2021, 09:49:43 AM »
Nah, as Michael Yon has pointed out prior to Biden shout out, he has been making these noises all along.

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Re: Citizen Trump
« Reply #70 on: December 24, 2021, 11:19:14 AM »
The vaccines were his only covid era accomplishment, and he is nothing if not a proud man. 

The Abraham Accords were in 2020 as well, but the work for that was done earlier.

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Re: Citizen Trump
« Reply #71 on: December 24, 2021, 06:12:36 PM »
"The Abraham Accords were in 2020 as well, but the work for that was done earlier."

You saying Obama-Biden get credit here?!?

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Re: Citizen Trump
« Reply #72 on: December 24, 2021, 07:02:31 PM »
"The Abraham Accords were in 2020 as well, but the work for that was done earlier."

You saying Obama-Biden get credit here?!?
.

No.  Jared Kushner and Trump definitely did this along with the other parties. Just saying almost nothing got done once covid hit.  My guess is the ground work for this was done in the first 3 years.
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Re: Citizen Trump
« Reply #73 on: December 25, 2021, 01:58:12 AM »
Ah.






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POTP: Trump's classified records
« Reply #80 on: February 12, 2022, 11:11:40 PM »
A lot of cheap shots, misdirect, and anonymous accusations by highly partisan actors here presented as fact, but somehow one suspects some of it to be true.

Where were these people during Hillary's reign?

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15 boxes: Inside the long, strange trip of Trump’s classified records
The journey underscores how defiantly and indiscriminately Trump violated the Presidential Records Act
Congress to investigate Trump's handling of White House records
The House Oversight Committee announced on Feb. 10 that it will investigate the Trump administration's handling of White House documents. (Reuters)
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For the 15 boxes of documents — some classified and marked “top secret” — the long journey from former president Donald Trump’s gilded Mar-a-Lago residence in Palm Beach, Fla., to a secure facility in the Washington area began last summer, when the National Archives and Records Administration contacted Trump’s team to alert it that some high-profile documents from his presidency appeared to be missing.

But it was not until the end of the year that the boxes were finally readied for collection, according to two people familiar with the logistics, one of whom described the ordeal as “a bit of a process.”

At one point, Archives officials threatened that if Trump’s team did not voluntarily produce the materials, they would send a letter to Congress or the Justice Department revealing the lack of cooperation, according to a third person familiar with the situation.

“At first it was unclear what he was going to give back and when,” said one of these people, who, like the others, spoke on the condition of anonymity to share candid details of a sensitive situation.

Trump was noticeably secretive about the packing process, and top aides and longtime administrative staffers did not see the contents, the people said.

Finally, on Jan. 17, a contractor dispatched by the Archives arrived at Mar-a-Lago to load the boxes into a truck and transport them a thousand miles north, eventually landing at a sensitive compartmented information facility — known as a SCIF — in the greater Washington area. Trump’s assistant had been looped in on the emails handling the logistics, and both Trump’s team and the National Archives described the in-person handover as amicable. Trump said in a statement it was “without conflict” and “very friendly.”


“This unfortunate attempt by the media to twist a story, along with the help of anonymous sources, is just another sensationalized distraction of an otherwise uneventful effort to persevere the legacy of President Trump and a good faith effort to ensure the fulfillment of the Presidential Records Act,” Trump spokesman Taylor Budowich said in a statement Saturday. “Sadly, the business of ‘news’ has become reliant on the next manufactured Trump ‘investigation,’ and so here we are. It’s a disgrace.”

The tale of these 15 boxes — and the material contained within — underscores how defiantly and indiscriminately Trump violated the records law, which requires that the White House preserve all written communication related to a president’s official duties and then turn it over to the National Archives. Instead, starting in his presidency and continuing into his post-presidency, documents both classified and mundane — as well as official gifts, which are governed by similarly stringent rules — were treated with the same disregard and enveloped in the same chaos that characterized his term in office.

A trucking administrator at Bennett, a Georgia transportation firm that handles a lot of government contracts, said that under traditional circumstances, shipment of these sorts of materials would be handled through a secure transfer — including GPS tracking of the vehicle and a team trained to handle sensitive information.


But it remains unclear what protocols were followed because, as one person familiar with the transfer said, “Nothing about this is normal.” Officials have not identified what company handled the Mar-a-Lago shipment.

“He would roll his eyes at the rules, so we did, too,” said Stephanie Grisham, the former Trump White House press secretary who has become an outspoken Trump critic since the Jan. 6 insurrection on the U.S. Capitol. “We weren’t going to get in trouble because he’s the president of the United States.”

Grisham, the author of “I’ll Take Your Questions Now: What I Saw at the Trump White House,” recalled one instance in which she expressed concern about violating the Hatch Act, which prohibits federal employees from engaging in some forms of political activity. Grisham said that Trump told her: “Who’s the boss of the Hatch Act? It’s me. So say whatever you want.”


That cavalier attitude about the rules extended to Trump’s treatment of documents, which he routinely ripped up and threw away, forcing aides to retrieve them and send them to the White House Office of Records Management to be taped back together to comply with the Presidential Records Act, which dates to 1978.

'He never stopped ripping things up': Inside Trump's relentless document destruction habits

Trump had a ripping process so distinctive that several aides instantly recalled it — two large, clean tears that left paper in quarters — and the remnants were strewn on desks, in trash cans and on floors, from the Oval Office to Air Force One. As president, Trump also regularly retired to his private residence with reams of official documents, often leaving them to pile up until records staff came searching for them.


Boxes sit in a truck outside the Eisenhower Executive Office Building on the White House complex on Jan. 14, 2021. (Jabin Botsford/The Washington Post)
When the Archives sent a tranche of documents to the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6 insurrection, some of them had been ripped up and taped back together. And some no longer existed at all; when the committee requested certain documents focused on Trump’s campaign to pressure then-Vice President Mike Pence to overturn the 2020 election results, some of the relevant materials had already been shredded, according to a former senior administration official.


A forthcoming book by New York Times reporter Maggie Haberman also reports that while Trump was president, White House residence staff members from time to time found clumps of paper clogging a toilet, leading them to believe that Trump was flushing documents.

Trump was warned by his first two chiefs of staff — Reince Priebus and John F. Kelly — about complying with the records act, as well as by Donald McGahn, his White House counsel.

And in 2020, when House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) ripped up a copy of Trump’s State of the Union address after he delivered it, Trump seemed to exhibit at least some awareness of the Presidential Records Act, incorrectly claiming Pelosi had committed a crime.

“I thought it was a terrible thing when she ripped up the speech,” Trump said at the time. “First of all, it’s an official document. You’re not allowed. It’s illegal what she did. She broke the law.”


This past week, The Washington Post reported that Archives officials — suspecting that Trump may have violated laws dealing with the handling of government documents — asked the Justice Department to examine the issue. It is unclear whether the department will launch a full investigation, but the query prompted discussions between federal law enforcement officials about whether they should investigate Trump for a possible crime, though such a prosecution would face a high legal bar.

Trump’s haphazard treatment of documents, including sensitive ones, continued throughout his administration, right up until his frenzied and begrudging departure.


Workers cart boxes into the West Wing of the White House, as offices in the White House complex are being packed up and moved out on Jan. 15, 2021. (Gerald Herbert/AP)
Trump — who spent the weeks after Election Day furiously working to overturn the results of a free and fair election — procrastinated packing to leave until the very last minute. His obsession with falsely claiming the election was stolen also made his staff reluctant to broach the question of packing, fearful that doing so would draw his ire, said one former White House official, speaking on the condition of anonymity to share details of private conversations.


Ultimately, Trump arrived at Mar-a-Lago with the array of documents and other items that should have been turned over to the Archives. In a statement, the Archives said Trump’s representatives have said they are “continuing to search” for documents that belong to the government.

As Trump settled into his post-presidency, officials from the Archives realized that they had never received certain prominent documents from his White House — some of them totems of the many scandals and controversies that clouded his four years in office.

Trump's troubles on the record-keeping front are getting thornier

Among the gifts, mementos and papers that were sent back: correspondence with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un, which Trump had once touted as “love letters”; a letter that President Barack Obama left for Trump, part of an Inauguration Day tradition in which the outgoing president leaves a warm missive for his successor; and a National Weather Service map of Hurricane Dorian, which Trump had altered with a black Sharpie in a widely mocked attempt to claim he had not been wrong about the storm’s path.


Grisham said she believes that Trump deliberately kept certain keepsakes, regardless of the Presidential Records Act. “He was beyond proud of those Kim Jong Un letters,” she said. “He talked about them all the time, showed them to people all the time. He took those letters because he wanted them.”

Trump also brought with him to Mar-a-Lago a number of gifts he had received while president — a concern aides had flagged in the final weeks of his administration, because gift rules dictate that most such presents also need to be given to the Archives.

A model of an Air Force One redesign he had proposed — repainting the baby-blue plane with in bold hues of red, white and blue — now sits on a coffee table in the middle of his members-only club’s sumptuous lobby room.

In his private Mar-a-Lago office, Trump has displayed a miniature version of one of the black slats from the wall he promised to build at the nation’s southern border, and which became a rallying cry for him and his conservative base.


President Donald Trump holds up a letter purportedly from North Korean leader Kim Jong Un as he leads a meeting of his Cabinet on Jan. 2, 2019. (Bill O'Leary/The Washington Post)
Also hanging there is a high-quality laser print of “The Republican Club” by artist Andy Thomas, which depicts a trim-looking Trump — clad in his signature red tie and drinking a Diet Coke — chatting with former Republican presidents. The painting was given to him by Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) and previously hung in the West Wing. On a different part of the wall is another large photo — of Marine One hovering in front of Mount Rushmore, when the former president visited there to celebrate the Fourth of July — that previously hung in the hallway of the West Wing.

“The Clintons had to return gifts, and there were lots of presidents who didn’t write anything down, or who didn’t keep emails, but I don’t know of a story since 1978 of a president leaving with this much material,” said Julian Zelizer, a presidential historian at Princeton University. “I can’t give you someone worse than Trump.”

With the boxes’ journey coming to a close, Trump advisers have scrambled to do damage control. They have asked the Archives to dispute the spate of recent reporting on the myriad ways Trump ignored the Presidential Records Act and to declare that Trump has done nothing wrong, according to two people familiar with the entreaties, speaking on the condition of anonymity to share details of private discussions.

But so far, the Archives has declined.

“We pursue the return of records — Presidential or federal — whenever we learn that records have been improperly removed or have not been appropriately transferred to official accounts,” Archivist of the United States David S. Ferriero wrote in a note to employees this past week. “ … Whether through the creation of adequate and proper documentation, sound records management practices, the preservation of records, or their timely transfer to the National Archives at the end of an administration, there should be no question as to the need for both diligence and vigilance.”

Matt Zapotosky and Alice Crites contributed to this report


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This does not sound good , , ,
« Reply #82 on: February 15, 2022, 01:54:08 AM »

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Re: Citizen Trump
« Reply #83 on: February 15, 2022, 06:10:14 AM »
"Or can this be seen as abandoning ship in the face of a legal lynching headed Trump's way?"

i wonder the same

Is it not just a wee bit curious the day after announcements about Hillary campaign paying to commit espionage on Trump this comes out.

It is though the prosecutors determined to do something fast to put this out in public so the MSM can run with this as headlines
and continue to ignore the Hillary corruptions story

Hard to believe this is just a fortunate coincidence
especially seeing how JURNO/LAWYER LISTERS work.

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Bragg skeptical about case against Trump
« Reply #84 on: February 23, 2022, 02:48:51 PM »
this story may not make it onto the CNN news cable platform tonight

if it does there will be a lot of sour faces:

https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/23/politics/manhattan-district-attorney-prosecutors-resign-trump-organization/index.html

I want to see Erin Burnett making faces
or how about Wolf looking so stern
or John Berman
or Jake Tapper
or Gloria Barger


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Re: Citizen Trump
« Reply #85 on: February 23, 2022, 02:51:24 PM »
For those inside the game, that is a very significant development.

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Barr
« Reply #86 on: February 27, 2022, 07:00:40 AM »
https://www.mediaite.com/trump/bill-barr-reportedly-burns-his-bridges-in-scathing-tell-all-sounds-off-on-trumps-erratic-personal-behavior-and-pettiness/

"“The election was not ‘stolen,’” Barr wrote. “Trump lost it.”

I don't agree
but it was too late to do much about the election
the 1/6 thing was a waste of time and just gave fodder to the LEFT

"“One Damn Thing After Another”

This is definitely something I agree with .  And time to move on is very true for me.


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Pence thinking of '24
« Reply #88 on: March 09, 2022, 03:08:52 PM »
https://www.nationalreview.com/2022/03/is-mike-pence-preparing-a-kamikaze-campaign/

there is no precedence in my life time for so many people from a president's  administration  and speaking out about the ex pres.


it is a parade

no it is not simply "mean tweets..."




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Re: Citizen Trump
« Reply #89 on: March 09, 2022, 04:28:29 PM »
He sure burnt a lot of bridges in his relationships with people who worked for him , , ,

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Re: Citizen Trump
« Reply #90 on: March 09, 2022, 04:43:38 PM »
He sure burnt a lot of bridges in his relationships with people who worked for him , , ,

Pence burnt them all in one day.

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Re: Citizen Trump
« Reply #91 on: March 09, 2022, 04:47:39 PM »
Pence has not a prayer haha.

He is too Beta.  He lacks what it takes to swim in the pirana (sp?) infested waters of American identity politics.

Still, the list of people who used to work for Trump and now turn on him is unnecessarily long.

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Re: Citizen Trump
« Reply #92 on: March 09, 2022, 04:50:08 PM »
How many were turncoats before day one? Like Bill Barr, as an example.

Pence has not a prayer haha.

He is too Beta.  He lacks what it takes to swim in the pirana (sp?) infested waters of American identity politics.

Still, the list of people who used to work for Trump and now turn on him is unnecessarily long.


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another ex Trump guy torches Trump
« Reply #94 on: March 10, 2022, 02:20:42 PM »
this is what happens when your ego forces you shove a person into the dirt because they do not agree with you
and you go out and humiliate them on person.

they hit back :

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ex-trump-national-security-advisor-231023716.html

mean tweets = stupid tweets

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Re: Citizen Trump
« Reply #95 on: March 10, 2022, 03:18:56 PM »
Unclear on your point here CCP.

Are you saying Bolton's analysis was correct or that he would not be speaking up now had Trump fired him with grace?

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Re: Citizen Trump
« Reply #96 on: March 10, 2022, 03:30:33 PM »
trump fired him with grace?

i don't recall it that way

 Bolton has gone on my shit list, no doubt

but I suspect something went on that Trump  personally offended him to the extent that he has a need to return the favor....

or is Bolton  just a media money hound ?

do you think I am evaluating this wrong?  just my take .




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Re: Citizen Trump
« Reply #97 on: March 10, 2022, 08:55:47 PM »
"had Trump fired him with grace" is a use of the subjective.  The intended meaning is precisely that he did not.  :-D

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Re: Citizen Trump v. Bolton
« Reply #98 on: March 10, 2022, 09:10:47 PM »
It's disappointing that so many of these working relationships go bad personally.  In general, that reflects poorly on Trump, but in this case, some of the fault might lie with Bolton.  They were bound to have disagreements.  Bolton was a hawk and Trump was a saber rattler but really wanted no wars on his watch.  I think they were on opposite sides of the argument on Syria.

From afar, it looked like Bolton would do well to remember who is boss and who is adviser.  But when you are treated badly in public, the only way to defend yourself is through freedom of speech - so we'll see where this goes.  Bolton served his purpose for Trump, having a hawk in the room while dealing with Un, Xi, Vlad and others.  But it was bound to fall apart.  That did not happen gracefully.
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Re: Citizen Trump
« Reply #99 on: March 10, 2022, 09:18:25 PM »
Well assessed, well described.