Author Topic: Constitutional issues regarding the extent and limits of executive branch power  (Read 4094 times)

Crafty_Dog

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FO: Fed funding cuts for sanctuaries
« Reply #50 on: April 11, 2025, 09:19:34 AM »


(3) TRUMP ADMIN THREATENS FED FUNDING FOR ALL SANCTUARY CITIES: President Donald Trump said he is planning to withhold all federal funding from cities and states with sanctuary immigration policies.

The Brookings Institute said many city attorneys and state attorneys general are prepared to mount legal challenges to Trump administration attempts to cut off federal funds.

Why It Matters: Sanctuary city and state policies have significantly expanded since Trump’s first term, and include many cities and counties in Republican-controlled states. The Trump administration likely sees threats to federal funding as a pressure point against Democrat-controlled states and local governments efforts to disrupt federal immigration enforcement, due to warnings about major budget shortfalls over the next year. Trump’s previous attempt to block federal funds to sanctuary cities and states was challenged in court, but was rescinded by the Biden administration before the Supreme Court could issue a ruling. - R.C.

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Stephen Miller
« Reply #51 on: April 12, 2025, 07:36:15 AM »


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FO: C'l crisis tipping point
« Reply #53 on: April 17, 2025, 08:00:06 AM »


(2) TRUMP, COURTS HEADED TO CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS TIPPING POINT: Washington, D.C. District Judge James Boasberg said there is probable cause to hold some Trump officials in criminal contempt of court, for “willfully disregarding” Boasberg’s order to stop deportation flights of Tren de Aragua members to El Salvador.

The Department of Justice (DOJ) directed federal immigration courts to scour dockets for asylum cases that could be denied without a full hearing. Immigration legal experts said the Trump administration’s order is an attempt to brush aside regulations, and is “flipping the notion of due process on its head.”

Why It Matters: If Boasberg refers Trump officials to the DOJ for criminal contempt charges, Trump could direct Attorney General Pam Bondi to drop the charges, openly defying the court. The Trump Resistance will likely claim Trump’s new order to the Immigration Courts is flouting due process protections, ratcheting up the constitutional crisis narrative. - R.C.

ccp

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this is what Larry Tribe et al want

a made up controvers
.
git
like Biden is not demented
like russia hoax
like trump hitler stalin the rest
like tax cuts for the rich
like threat to inclusion diversity etc

now this hoax to be blasted by all the Democrat news hosts and their guests who are there to agree.   


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FO not getting it quite right; short term NLRB litigation win for Trump
« Reply #55 on: April 18, 2025, 10:19:08 AM »



(2) TRUMP, COURTS HEADED TO CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS TIPPING POINT: Washington, D.C. District Judge James Boasberg said there is probable cause to hold some Trump officials in criminal contempt of court, for “willfully disregarding” Boasberg’s order to stop deportation flights of Tren de Aragua members to El Salvador.

MARC:   I enjoy FO a lot but tight legal analysis is not their jurisdiction. 

The Department of Justice (DOJ) directed federal immigration courts to scour dockets for asylum cases that could be denied without a full hearing. Immigration legal experts (a.k.a. GONGOs?) said the Trump administration’s order is an attempt to brush aside regulations, and is “flipping the notion of due process on its head.”

Why It Matters: If Boasberg refers Trump officials to the DOJ for criminal contempt charges, Trump could direct Attorney General Pam Bondi to drop the charges,

MARC:  I'm just a LINO, but this seems to me an outright error.   The judiary does not institute charges, that is an executive function thus G Bondi would not be "dropping the charges" because none will have been brought.

openly defying the court.

MARC:   Thus there is no "defiance" of the court.

 The Trump Resistance will likely claim Trump’s new order to the Immigration Courts is flouting due process protections, ratcheting up the constitutional crisis narrative. - R.C

MARC:   No doubt!


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Re: I disagree but tis a bad look
« Reply #58 on: April 18, 2025, 12:35:07 PM »
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/kristi-noem-pam-bondi-slammed-by-conservative-judge-shocking-to-foundation-of-constitutional-order/ar-AA1DbXPV?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=2558c5e1e351482eb5b6819600e1fc42&ei=11

Right, we have a forever bad look because of the enemy media.

I thought he did have deportation orders against him.

How do we give individual due process to 20 million people in a reasonable amount of time? This mess isn't of the Trump administration's doing.

Thinking of emergency orders of covid where all my rights were waived. I thought Trump declared an emergency and these foreign gang members become enemy combatants. They're entitled to individual trials that take years just because they entered the country illegally?

Do illegals have full rights? Why, how so? When was that established?

And then there's the part about this being a conservative judge. A very conservative judge. Maybe he is, but just because Reagan appointed him doesn't mean it was part of a deal to get other judges confirmed. How come I don't hear the MSN or the MSM ever say very liberal judge as something relevant to a ruling?

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The LEFt keeps telling us "even Trump administration" admits it made a mistake.

So if mistake was made get the darn guy back and end the left wing media circus
for political reasons.

it is only one person.

But now the WH is saying irregardless of any mistake guy was linked to gand bangers , was here illegally and El Salv pres says he was in gang in his country

So which is it for God's sake?!!!

And now we have Goldman saying the whole nation should read a Reagan era judge who says it is a black and white issue and guy should be brought back.

This is all a waste of time but the media is drooling with thrist and lust to make this into a big deal.


Crafty_Dog

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Some things I posted on FB:
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What does "facilitate" mean? If the meaning were "ordered to" then that is what would/should have been said.

I would suggest that the precise point here is that SCOTUS did not "order" is precisely because on the facts presented this is outside the jurisdiction of the judicial branch so they chose a mealy mouthed word to cover that up.

Certainly President Trump et al can reasonably make that argument?

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You do well for a non-lawyer, but as best as I can tell, you are missing the legal consequence of MS 13 being legally declared as a terrorist organization.

Despite your noble paeans to Due Process, the man has already had his Due Process-- and has been ordered deported.

At first the hang up was the requirement that it not be to El Salvador, but once MS 13 was declared terrorist, and thus with it Abrego, the limitation became vitiated.

This is my understanding.

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 Forgive me, but you go in further over your head. You mistakenly state the legal posture.
Start with this:

"Declaring MS-13 a terrorist organization"-- you miss that this is a formal legal act with significant legal consequences.

HE HAS HAD HIS DUE PROCESS AND HAS BEEN FORMALLY DECLARED TO BE DEPORTED. NOW THAT HE IS LEGALLY CATEGORIZED AS A TERRORIST THERE WERE ZERO LEGAL BARRIERS TO HIM BEING SENT BACK TO HIS COUNTRY.

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My response to the 4th Circuit Judge Wilkinson opinion
« Reply #61 on: Today at 05:49:06 AM »
As first posted on FB:
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Although 80 years old, the judge does write with coherent vigor, but IMO he is wrong.

1) He writes:

"The government asserts that Abrego Garcia is a terrorist and a member of MS-13. Perhaps, but perhaps not."

Not my understanding at all. Indeed, quite the contrary-- he has been held to be a member of MS 13-- WHICH IS PRECISELY WHY THE ORDER OF DEPORTATION WAS ENTERED.

" Regardless, he is still entitled to due process."

Which he has received!!!

"If the government is confident of its position, it should be assured that position will prevail in proceedings to terminate the withholding of removal order. See 8 C.F.R. § 208.24(f) (requiring that the government prove “by a preponderance of evidence” that the alien is no longer entitled to a withholding of removal)."

Maybe so, and maybe not and yes this is a key point. With MS-13 legally declared a terrorist organization, the basis for the order (wrongly made in the first instance IMO but I digress) is vitiated. Abrego is now legally considered to be a terrorist and as such the withholding order no longer applies.

"Moreover, the government has conceded that Abrego Garcia was wrongly or “mistakenly” deported."

Here we must get into the weeds a bit. The lawyer who made this apparently mistaken assertion (of course pounced upon by all those who cheered the rape of the due processes of our immigrtion laws) has been removed from the case because of her error (good faith or bad faith we do not know).
Of course the Pravdas, Progs, and Politicians who told us lie after lie during the administration of the corrupt and senile Biden in search of inciting and enabling the invasion of our country for contemptible and unAmerican reasons (illegal stacking of the vote now and in the future) do not circle back to make note of this point and bring it to the attention of we the American people.

"Why then should it not make what was wrong, right?"

a) It wasn't wrong, and
b) As properly and implicitly noted by SCOTUS's use of the word "facilitate"
*the initial action must come from El Salvador (not fg likely!) and
*the judiciary has no power/jurisdiction to compel the President here.

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But wait-- there's more!

"We are not bound in this context by a definition crafted by an administrative agency and contained in a mere policy directive."

Oh really?!? Exactly what should the executive branch have done?!? Blow it off?!?

"Cf. Loper Bright Enters. v. Raimondo, 603 U.S. 369, 400 (2024); Christensen v. Harris Cnty., 529 U.S. 576, 587 (2000)."

Going deeper yet into the weeds, the "Cf" with which the citation begins means that the cases cited are NOT precisely on point. If you want to dig in and see what they say and report back to us, well then have at it.