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China can build more o these than we can build aircraft carriers
« Reply #550 on: August 02, 2022, 04:57:04 PM »
I am reminded of the story of Alexander the Great as a boy.  The Persian ambassador of the huge kickass Persian Empire was there to see his father King Philip and young Alex was there to entertain the Ambassador until his father arrived.

As they chatted Alexander asked him about the size of the Persian military.  Seeing a chance to impress the future king of Macedonia, the Ambassador waxed eloquent.

Alex responded "How long would it take to get all of them across the Bosphorus or the Agean Sea?"

The Ambassador stuttered in reply.

We too are spread out around the entire world.  LONG logistic lines tend to be very fragile particularly the one across the Pacific Ocean enforced by a shrinking and tired Navy.  Much of our military capability is structured for threats different than the one of the South China Sea/Taiwan.

Most of China's capabilities are focused on Taiwan/SCS.

Our Carrier Groups are fg amazing and allow us to show up on the doorstep of any country with a coast in the world with truly formidable power BUT all of that is irrelevant if China has missiles that cover the battle space/submarine capabilities that are a threat/ and the ability to blind us and sever our comms by taking out our satellites  (and cut off our antibiotics, fk with our internet, etc.)

Who knows how it would turn out TODAY, (Pentagon War Games show them winning quickly and decisively) but on current trajectories they will be passing us rather soon.

 

https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2020/11/chinas-new-aircraft-carrier-killer-is-worlds-largest-air-launched-missile/

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Re: World War III
« Reply #551 on: August 02, 2022, 07:50:10 PM »
"US military, perhaps to get more funding has painted China as a powerful threat. While they are powerful, they are no military match"

Ya
can you be more specific?

do we know they cannot cut off our satellites, communications etc.

why do I keep reading think tanks saying that we lose all hypothetical match ups?

does this mean their systems will not work as advertised?

do we know ours will?

It is a reasonable hypothesis, that were the US to beat China in military war games, Congress is not going to give them more funding ?. So it is important to show that the Chinese are far ahead of the USA. How do I know this...well the recent India-China stand off revealed a lot. India's GDP is about 1/4 of China's, clearly China is wealthier and more advanced than India with respect to military weapons. India was bombarded with slick videos of superhuman Chinese soldiers, modern cutting edge weapons, drone delivery of hot foods at himalayan heights, sleeping and relaxing in oxygen enriched chambers. When it was time for the rubber to meet the road, the Chinese fell quite short. Their conscripts were poorly trained, not aclimatized and had to withdraw. China has received several "bloody noses" in various skirmishes where they lost men on the Eastern front of India. So while India recognizes that China could be a formidable enemy, in India people are not afraid to take China on.

Going forward, I expect China to harass Taiwan, and they may even launch an attack and capture a few island rocks. Not sure why the US gives them much credibility.

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Re: World War III
« Reply #552 on: August 02, 2022, 08:04:59 PM »
It's not a matter of quality of troops and equipment head to head. We had our best troops, incredibly well trained with state of the art equipment, air superiority and literal eyes in the sky watching the enemy.

Our opponents were illiterates that literally fcuk goats, wearing man-dresses and armed with rusty AK-47s.

Who won?

China doesn't need a superior military to win. PLA generals brag about how they'd happily lose 100,000 troops to kill 10,000 Americans.

If the USS Ronald Reagan is at the bottom of the S. China sea along with it's escort ships, it's not going to turn out as a win for us.


"US military, perhaps to get more funding has painted China as a powerful threat. While they are powerful, they are no military match"

Ya
can you be more specific?

do we know they cannot cut off our satellites, communications etc.

why do I keep reading think tanks saying that we lose all hypothetical match ups?

does this mean their systems will not work as advertised?

do we know ours will?

It is a reasonable hypothesis, that were the US to beat China in military war games, Congress is not going to give them more funding ?. So it is important to show that the Chinese are far ahead of the USA. How do I know this...well the recent India-China stand off revealed a lot. India's GDP is about 1/4 of China's, clearly China is wealthier and more advanced than India with respect to military weapons. India was bombarded with slick videos of superhuman Chinese soldiers, modern cutting edge weapons, drone delivery of hot foods at himalayan heights, sleeping and relaxing in oxygen enriched chambers. When it was time for the rubber to meet the road, the Chinese fell quite short. Their conscripts were poorly trained, not aclimatized and had to withdraw. China has received several "bloody noses" in various skirmishes where they lost men on the Eastern front of India. So while India recognizes that China could be a formidable enemy, in India people are not afraid to take China on.

Going forward, I expect China to harass Taiwan, and they may even launch an attack and capture a few island rocks. Not sure why the US gives them much credibility.

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Re: World War III
« Reply #553 on: August 02, 2022, 08:28:58 PM »
Question:

What happens if China puts a blockade on China?


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Re: World War III
« Reply #554 on: August 02, 2022, 08:47:37 PM »
Question:

What happens if China puts a blockade on China?

I think a PLAN blockade around the ROC is quite possible. Then we will see if the Biden Junta is ready to take more casualties in a day than we lost in two decades of the GWOT.

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Re: World War III
« Reply #555 on: August 03, 2022, 04:54:15 AM »
Over time, I expect Taiwan will be taken over by China. Proximity to China does not work in Taiwan's favor. Same as for Hong Kong.

Re: Aircraft carriers being susceptible to missiles, China has claimed that their DF 21 missiles can do the job. I have also read elsewhere, not withstanding their claims, its not a simple job as AC have defenses. The same issue was brought up re: India's aircraft carriers and the Indian Navy are asking for a third AC. Apparently, the Indian navy thinks its not straight forward to down an AC. I agree the risk remains.

To down a US AC means full fledged war, which China will not win.



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Re: The Taiwan blockade
« Reply #561 on: August 04, 2022, 08:50:37 AM »

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Re: The Taiwan blockade
« Reply #562 on: August 04, 2022, 09:51:06 AM »

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Re: World War III
« Reply #563 on: August 04, 2022, 12:25:27 PM »
Yes, and yes.

I'm also seeing right now a bitch slap across America's face-- we can blockade Taiwan and there is nothing you can do militarily about it-- and economically you ain't gonna do jack excrement either.

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World War III The PRC continues to escalate
« Reply #564 on: August 04, 2022, 02:29:17 PM »
Yes, and yes.

I'm also seeing right now a bitch slap across America's face-- we can blockade Taiwan and there is nothing you can do militarily about it-- and economically you ain't gonna do jack excrement either.


https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ballistic-missiles-soar-over-taiwan-hundreds-pla-fighters-breach-airspace-5-day-drills


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Re: World War III
« Reply #566 on: August 05, 2022, 03:16:22 PM »
I'm not familiar with the source here citing anonymous sources.


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Re: World War III
« Reply #567 on: August 05, 2022, 08:40:33 PM »
I'm not familiar with the source here citing anonymous sources.

On a decapitation strike?

https://archive.ph/jVqxX

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Re: World War III
« Reply #568 on: August 06, 2022, 09:25:57 AM »
Yeah, I went back to that citation.

This is less than definitive:

"The U.S. will not acknowledge—formally or officially—that decapitation is on the agenda. Unofficially, though, that’s the name of the game, as explained to The Daily Beast by those familiar with the upcoming exercise as well as the exercises of five years ago."

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Leadership Decapitation
« Reply #569 on: August 06, 2022, 09:44:42 AM »
Yeah, I went back to that citation.

This is less than definitive:

"The U.S. will not acknowledge—formally or officially—that decapitation is on the agenda. Unofficially, though, that’s the name of the game, as explained to The Daily Beast by those familiar with the upcoming exercise as well as the exercises of five years ago."

https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/pdfs/ADA429271.pdf

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Re: World War III
« Reply #570 on: August 06, 2022, 11:37:10 AM »
Nice find (How do you do that?!?  :-D )

Of course our military has thought about such things!  But is that sufficient basis for asserting that our military exercise with the SORKs give the NORKs proper foundation for getting in a tizzy on such a basis?

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Re: World War III
« Reply #571 on: August 06, 2022, 12:09:41 PM »
Nice find (How do you do that?!?  :-D )

Of course our military has thought about such things!  But is that sufficient basis for asserting that our military exercise with the SORKs give the NORKs proper foundation for getting in a tizzy on such a basis?

Every tyrant has to sleep with one eye open. Little Kim especially.


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Re: World War III
« Reply #573 on: August 09, 2022, 04:16:53 AM »
So, what do you suggest?

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Re: World War III
« Reply #574 on: August 09, 2022, 06:08:42 AM »
So, what do you suggest?

From the Ray Dalio article:

"This conflict is still a low-grade military conflict (which I call a Category 2 military conflict) because 1) it has not yet produced an exchange of bloodshed of people from the two major sides i.e., Chinese and/or Americans and 2) it is not taking place on either country’s homeland (though the Chinese would say Taiwan is part of their homeland even though it’s not part of mainland China)."
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(Doug) It makes sense to not respond directly to the "3 day" exercises that were in retaliation for the Pelosi visit and to not cross the lines described above.  They needed that tantrum to save face.

It makes more sense (to me) to talk quietly with Taiwanese, Japanese, South Koreans, other like minded Asians and powers, and Democrats talk with Republicans, about developing the military capability to deter what seems to be PRC's inevitable military invasion of Taiwan.

Build ships, fighter planes and advanced defense capabilities while shifting the discussion with China to economic issues.

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Re: World War III
« Reply #575 on: August 09, 2022, 07:15:30 AM »
Agree!

I would add denying China access to American capital, going after Chinese intel operations, and the like.

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GPF: A new phase in the global economic war
« Reply #578 on: August 10, 2022, 08:40:07 AM »
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A New Phase in the Global Economic War
War is the ultimate disruptor.
By: Antonia Colibasanu

When Russia invaded Ukraine in February, it didn’t just start a ground war in Europe – it opened up what would become a worldwide economic war involving nearly every major power. The West responded to the invasion by imposing sanctions and using the international financial system against Russia, hoping to bleed Moscow enough economically to come to terms. Instead, Russia dug its heels in, doubling down on the decades-long strategy of weaponizing its energy sales to Europe while searching for new allies and buyers. Naturally, the removal of Russian energy sent shocks throughout the global economy.

Nearly six months later, the world has entered a new phase of the economic war. Even major powers are dealing with surging inflation, an ongoing pandemic, energy shortages and a potential food crisis. Extended high temperatures across Europe have raised energy demand for consumers trying to stay cool, as industry attempts to ramp up production as part of a long economic recovery. And that’s to say nothing of the upcoming winter, droughts in both hemispheres, pollution, supply chain disruptions, and continued ravages to fertile lands in Ukraine – all of which will compound global economic problems.

While inflation means higher prices for everyone, the consequences of the economic war go beyond price concerns. The shipping industry, for example, has been disproportionately affected. After the initial Russian invasion, the industry’s primary concern was to resolve war zone-related issues – for example, getting ships out of the northern shore of the Black Sea – before dealing with higher operational costs. The Russian shipping industry in particular is at all but a standstill. Though it accounts for just 1 percent of global shipping, Russians themselves account for nearly 11 percent of the seafaring workforce; Ukrainians account for nearly 5 percent, and so the war has created a labor shortage in the industry. Meanwhile, operators have developed audit procedures to make sure both shipment ownership and merchandise doesn’t come under sanctions – all of which is not only costly but time consuming, slowing down global supply chains while they are still under the impact of pandemic policies.

The insurance industry was next to adapt to the new business environment. The first challenge for insurers was to develop procedures that made it possible to audit institutional exposure to sanctions as they came (at an unprecedented pace, no less). Ensuring effective compliance in a rapidly evolving landscape is not only expensive but also risky, considering the potential for business losses. The pace of change that the implementation of the sanctions imposed has rendered companies unable to insure a sanctioned person or reinsure a sanctioned insurer, regardless of the type of business. Keeping tabs on sanctions, now business as usual, continues to increase operational costs and inflate the premiums paid by businesses worldwide, all of which are included in the final consumer price.

For all these reasons, rivalries will continue to grow as nations determine what is best for themselves. They will have to adapt their policies to the massive accumulation of minor and major shocks that result from the high uncertainty both producers and consumers are facing. These will include restricted exports, higher storage thresholds, measures supporting increased domestic production or even rationing. This will ultimately result in unintended, unpredictable consequences that will be harder to manage for all states, with some taking the hit more than others.

Case Study: France and Germany

France's nuclear power regulator announced on Aug. 8 that it had extended temporary waivers to allow five power stations to continue discharging hot water into rivers as the country faces one of the most severe droughts in decades. Cool water is essential for keeping reactors humming at nuclear power plants. But even if France is a major European nuclear energy producer and exporter, weather conditions have made it hard for it to continue operations. Last week, Electricite de France said it needs to decrease the nuclear energy production at two other plants because of weather conditions.

This is just as much a problem for Germany, which hoped to import some French electricity production to try to reduce its energy dependence on Russia. Faced with high inflation and expecting an energy shortage in the coming months, German lawmakers are exploring measures to save energy. German Chancellor Olaf Scholz acknowledged that the spiraling energy costs are a potential source of social distress and instability. Meanwhile, the same drought is affecting the German economy. Germany's transport minister said low water levels on the Rhine may cause shipping problems and called for an urgent dredging plan to keep the German economy safe. Put simply, nothing seems reassuring for Europe’s economic powerhouse. And if Russia decides to cut natural gas supplies, the situation will only get worse.

Case Study: Odesa

All these issues are also evident in the way the recently brokered grain export agreement has been implemented at the port of Odesa. The deal was supposed to ensure that Ukrainian grain could reach Africa and other parts of the world, averting a food crisis and bringing relief to global grain markets. Hours after the agreement was signed, however, two Russian missiles hit the port. Moreover, port operators, like the shipping industry, are facing a labor shortage. And legal questions abound over the application of sanctions; local sources mention issues with paperwork and approval processes.

Russia is a top exporter of most commodities, so naturally sanctions raise similar questions in ports around the world. Except for the U.S., which is largely self-sufficient, most of the world’s industrial producers – especially China – depend on imports of commodities. China is also dependent on the U.S. to buy its exports. Considering its mounting socio-economic troubles, Beijing will do all it can to avoid getting caught in the economic war between the West and Russia – unless events around Taiwan force it to do so. For the business world, this translates into higher operating expenses and more supply chain risks, all of which contributes to the accelerated adoption of onshoring or reshoring.

For Western firms, however, onshoring comes with its own risks – inflation, first and foremost. American firms must consider higher energy prices, but Europeans are dealing with uncertainty over the security of supply itself. Even if Russia doesn’t cut Europe’s gas supply, the Europeans will need to use rubles for the purchases, weakening the euro and driving inflation higher. At the same time the West, especially Europe, must help keep the Ukrainian economy afloat. All this uncertainty makes Europe a less attractive destination for business investment, let alone onshoring.

Russia’s Problems

The Kremlin’s challenges are similar, if not worse. Sanctions and supply chain havoc are reducing what gets to Russian producers, and when things get there, they’re more expensive than they used to be. The government has reassured the population about its anti-sanctions measures, but its businesses are feeling the heat. One measure requires Russian firms to sell a percentage of their foreign currency to the central bank for rubles, helping to prop up the national currency. This percentage has fallen significantly since the war began, but close financial monitoring continues, as does business uncertainty.

The Kremlin was aware of these risks before invading Ukraine but made a political calculation. Putin placed Russia’s security strategy above its prosperity, knowing the Western counter had strict limits. For starters, the prospect of a weak and unstable nuclear-armed Russia isn’t very appealing for Europe or the United States. Nevertheless, the Kremlin also knew that without Western technology, the Russian economy would struggle to maintain the previous pace of development. The sanctions have started eating into Russian energy production, and there are indications that broader manufacturing output is suffering. Even if Russia benefits from higher commodity prices, the technology restrictions in particular will start to bite and could turn into socio-economic problems.

The Kremlin believes Russians will endure these hardships so long as it can sell a plausible story that Russia is winning the war. As part of this effort, Moscow benefits from the opportunity to deliver positive news at home about new friends in Africa backing it against the West. Though it’s unclear how much African allies can help, for the Kremlin the moral support may be enough. At the same time, it’s unclear what affect the war is having on Russia’s labor force after the damage wrought by the pandemic.

War is the ultimate disruptor. The risk of global economic destabilization grows with each step, offensive or defensive, in the economic war, and as business executives’ decisions trickle through the supply chain. Together, this accelerates the fragmentation process that was already underway because of the pandemic.

Europe and Russia will be most affected first. A difficult winter is coming for both. Europe’s energy dependence on Russia is a massive challenge, especially during the Continent’s worst drought in decades. For Russia, even if it can find new markets to sell to, the stream of key technologies into the country is drying up. Things will get worse late in the year, especially if we factor in the uncertain labor market. Moscow’s insistence that things are going well is worrying. For both Russia and the global economy, they clearly aren’t.

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Kissinger agrees with me
« Reply #579 on: August 16, 2022, 09:32:14 AM »
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/kissinger-says-u-s-is-aimlessly-heading-toward-edge-of-war-against-russia-and-china-11660552482

“We are at the edge of war with Russia and China on issues which we partly created, without any concept of how this is going to end or what it’s supposed to lead to.”
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World War III is here
« Reply #583 on: August 29, 2022, 08:27:28 AM »

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Re: World War III is here. Yon agrees
« Reply #584 on: August 30, 2022, 10:11:41 AM »
https://gatesofvienna.net/2022/08/stop-waiting-for-ww3/

Iraqis will Genocide — Because That is Their Way of War
29 August 2022
Amsterdam, Netherlands

Iraqis do total war. Incredibly savage to one another. They fight to exhaustion. Pretend it was a one-off, rest up. Repeat. Just as Germany occasionally commits ritual, mass genocide/suicide. Iraqis commit ritual genocide. That is their way. Their firmware.

There are cultures within the United States who have been highly weaponized against white people. When this breaks — and it will break soon — they will go for genocide aided by FBI, CIA, and the US military. The current US military is not the one I served in or accompanied in the wars.

The current US military is led by Evil Woke such as Austin and White Rage Milley. The current US military is not trained to fight China or Russia. They are groomed to commit genocide across America. Specifically to kill as many white people as possible. White Rage Mi lley is too stupid, brainwashed, or compromised to see he is nothing more than a useful, disposable idiot.
White Rage Milley will stand obediently by the oven doors while young US service members are brainwashed and injected with poison jihad-jabs.

Milley and Austin are traitors.

This apparently was from Iraq today. Not confirmed. But what is confirmed is that the latest genocide has begun and the energy and other implications are massive.

World War III is on.

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Miscalculations leading to World War III and CW2
« Reply #586 on: September 04, 2022, 03:06:16 PM »
Auron MacIntyre:

The liberal world order has been so dominant for so long they can't imagine a scenario where there are consequences for the decisions they make

That's why they outsourced energy production to adversarial nations and then fought a proxy war with those providers over a client state

They assumed those nations would blink, everyone always blinks eventually under the social and financial pressure

But now that strategy has failed and all they can do is tell their people to freeze and starve in the name of democracy

This is why they are pushing forward with electric cars as they lose the ability to reliably provide electricity

Why they're trying to shutdown farmers as store shelves empty

The plans were already in motion and they can't imagine a scenario where they lose, so they accelerate.

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Re: World War III
« Reply #587 on: September 04, 2022, 03:28:13 PM »
"The plans were already in motion, and they can't imagine a scenario where they lose, so they accelerate."

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Re: World War III
« Reply #589 on: September 10, 2022, 11:31:25 AM »
He is making the common sense observation that Putin using tactical nukes if the Russki forces are being humiliated/forced out cannot be ruled out, yes?

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Re: World War III
« Reply #590 on: September 10, 2022, 12:06:40 PM »
He is making the common sense observation that Putin using tactical nukes if the Russki forces are being humiliated/forced out cannot be ruled out, yes?

Yes.





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George Friedman: How to Fight a Nuke War
« Reply #595 on: September 23, 2022, 05:03:28 AM »
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How to Fight a Nuclear War
Thoughts in and around geopolitics.
By: George Friedman

Russian President Vladimir Putin’s occasional threat of nuclear war has achieved its desired goal: to create a sense of catastrophe if the West, and in particular the United States, continues to support Ukraine. Clearly, Moscow is having a hard time waging a conventional war, which was premised on the (faulty) assumption that Russia’s military would quickly and easily overpower Ukraine’s. Some suspect the opposite may now be true.

This has created problems for Russia at home and abroad. Though Putin’s authority is fairly intact, confidence in his judgment and in Russia’s future has declined. There are protests in the streets of Moscow and reports of conscripted men trying to flee the country.

Russia’s performance in the war has also quelled international fears of Moscow. Without fear, countries are free to disagree with Russia, aid Ukraine, or generally challenge Moscow elsewhere without risk of retribution. In Central Asia, for example, Russia’s authority has declined significantly. Since the region is in Russia’s backyard, its authority, or lack thereof, matters greatly.

Russia needs to demonstrate that it remains an overwhelmingly powerful nation. Its ideal strategy, of course, would be to decisively beat the Ukrainian army. For now, that appears unlikely. The longer that remains the case, the further the perception of Russian power declines.

By raising the threat of nuclear war, Putin is attempting to raise the perception that defeating Russia in Ukraine could have catastrophic consequences. To make the threat credible, Putin must appear indifferent to the potential counterattacks against Russia. It’s impossible to know what someone else is thinking, let alone a Russian autocrat, so it behooves us to take the threat seriously. What was incredible during the Cold War becomes possible in the Ukraine war, and the calculus of possibility relative to the dangers of nuclear reality starts to loom large. The threat is credible only if it involves a strategic intercontinental strike rather than a localized, tactical one. Putin has carefully avoided explaining what type of nuclear strike he is talking about, so the dread of Russian power surges in spite of the losses in the conventional war.

In gaming nuclear war in the 1950s and 1960s, it quickly became obvious that if a country were to launch a nuclear attack, it would have to be an entirely unanticipated first strike designed to eliminate the risk of retaliation by eliminating enemy missiles before launch. We never discovered if a successful first strike was possible because the chances of it failing to at least some degree would mean a strike on the attacker’s home. If a first strike was essential, the probability of failure was too high, so nobody tried it. Thus nuclear powers, particularly the Soviet Union and the United States, were painfully careful when confronting each other, taking every care not to alarm the other about the threat of a first strike. Such a danger might have triggered a first strike by the other side.

A first strike with even one nuclear weapon may well release the entire U.S. arsenal on Russia. But Putin is in a declining position. His best option for forcing the U.S. to step back from Ukraine is to employ what was once called the crazy SOB strategy. It was meant to frighten your sane adversary into believing you had lost your mind, causing them to try to calm the threat by making concessions. According to this strategy, the defender must be convinced that the attacker has a credible capability and is prepared to accept a nuclear holocaust in his own country to gain the upper hand. It was essential to allow the defender to scare himself into making concessions without ever actually launching anything. The danger of this strategy, of course, is that the defender would believe that if a foreign leader is crazy enough to launch at all, then he is crazy enough to launch preemptively. The metaphysics of nuclear war was a great pastime in grad school, but it was never a practical affair because it depended on alerting your adversary of the threat.

The only real nuclear option, according to Herman Kahn’s “On Thermonuclear War,” is to launch without any warning at all enemy facilities, hoping that the surprise will cost defenders precious minutes before launching a retaliatory strike. In theory, all sides are on an instant trigger to respond. The goal is to make them wonder for a few minutes if the radars had had a failure – which could happen. Those minutes of confusion are what you are looking for.

Under no circumstances are you to give any hint of an impending attack. Nothing should interrupt the dogmatic belief that it’s just another boring day. The last thing that a Soviet or American leader would do is mumble vague promises about global catastrophe. Doing that would get the adrenaline flowing in enemy command bunkers, which is not what you want, and your first strike could turn into a disastrous second strike.

The point is that if you are thinking of using nuclear weapons, don’t threaten to use them. If you are going to discuss their use, you are simply trying to bluff the other side. Putin is many things that I won’t name, but he is not stupid. Russian grad students and KGB agents were playing the same nuclear theory games we were. With Putin’s recent comments, the U.S. nuclear system has to dust off the cobwebs. A nuclear team has always been on standby but perhaps not always on full alert. Now it is. This is not an ideal way to start a nuclear war.

I am reminded of a movie: “Dr. Strangelove, or: How I Stopped Worrying and Learned to Love the Bomb.” But it was talking about global nuclear war. That would change life as we know it. Tactical nukes won’t.




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World War III in one week?
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