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« Reply #1550 on: April 09, 2016, 10:58:09 AM »
If you are a war hero your arrested and face is all over the news.  Fact is he wasn't driving.   He was sleeping in his car.   If you are Democrat Presidential candidate with an organized mob behind you  and you repeatedly  thumb your nose over national security for years it is a "right wing conspiracy" or much to do about nothing, etc.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ex-navy-seal-says-killed-bin-laden-charged-171750737.

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« Reply #1551 on: April 09, 2016, 02:28:20 PM »
If you are a war hero your arrested and face is all over the news.  Fact is he wasn't driving.   He was sleeping in his car.   If you are Democrat Presidential candidate with an organized mob behind you  and you repeatedly  thumb your nose over national security for years it is a "right wing conspiracy" or much to do about nothing, etc.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ex-navy-seal-says-killed-bin-laden-charged-171750737.


Many states, mine included consider an intoxicated person in possession of their keys in the car to be DUI. Personally, I think that's a bogus arrest.

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« Reply #1552 on: April 09, 2016, 02:42:44 PM »
"Many states, mine included consider an intoxicated person in possession of their keys in the car to be DUI."

Well in that case I understand it.

Thanks for clarification.

Just trouble shooting.  If one comes out of a bar and goes in the back seat to sleep it off till next morning then that person too is DUI?

What if they have a van and go in the back to sleep?  

Basically one cannot sleep in their car if under the influence even if she/he does not drive?

Well he was in parking lot on someone's else's property...........but if the owner of the property does not complain........ :|
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« Reply #1553 on: April 09, 2016, 03:17:03 PM »
"Many states, mine included consider an intoxicated person in possession of their keys in the car to be DUI."

Well in that case I understand it.

Thanks for clarification.

Just trouble shooting.  If one comes out of a bar and goes in the back seat to sleep it off till next morning then that person too is DUI?

What if they have a van and go in the back to sleep?  

Basically one cannot sleep in their car if under the influence even if she/he does not drive?

Well he was in parking lot on someone's else's property...........but if the owner of the property does not complain........ :|


The best course of action in that scenario is to lock your keys in your trunk or another locked container before going to sleep.

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« Reply #1554 on: April 10, 2016, 10:04:36 AM »
"Many states, mine included consider an intoxicated person in possession of their keys in the car to be DUI."
Well in that case I understand it.
Thanks for clarification.
Just trouble shooting.  If one comes out of a bar and goes in the back seat to sleep it off till next morning then that person too is DUI?
What if they have a van and go in the back to sleep?  
Basically one cannot sleep in their car if under the influence even if she/he does not drive?
Well he was in parking lot on someone's else's property...........but if the owner of the property does not complain........ :|

The best course of action in that scenario is to lock your keys in your trunk or another locked container before going to sleep.

My uncle was a D.A. here for 36 years.  He wouldn't prosecute a DUI where the intent and action of the person arrested was to be NOT driving the car.  Like ccp says, realize you shouldn't be driving, get off the road, sleep it off.  Unfortunately that isn't the law (here).  Do what GM says.  I was going to say throw the keys as far as you can away from the car where they won't be found and hope you have an extra set, or get away from the car which is also not the safest thing to do on a cold MN winter night away from home.  These days, it's Uber.  Load the app and register before the situation arises and have your username and password all known in your phone so it will come up easily when you need it.  (I should take my own advice; I signed up and don't know my password...)  You still need to get away from the car if you are even possibly over .08.  Cheaper than the alternative.

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Arabs strive for honor, not peace
« Reply #1557 on: April 27, 2016, 08:25:20 PM »

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Hello Darkness My Old Friend
« Reply #1559 on: May 03, 2016, 05:36:43 PM »

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« Reply #1561 on: May 04, 2016, 01:43:30 PM »
Elizabeth pocohantas Warren:

The Massachusetts senator and liberal firebrand went on a lengthy Twitter tirade, calling Trump’s candidacy one built on “racism, sexism, and xenophobia” and supported by Russian President Vladimir Putin and the Ku Klux Klan.

So what should be the response to this?
AS for the KKK I don't think even a dozen people show up to their rallies so what .

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« Reply #1562 on: May 04, 2016, 02:34:33 PM »
First of all, ask Fauxcohauntus if she feels bad for taking the place of an actual American Indian in academia?

Elizabeth pocohantas Warren:

The Massachusetts senator and liberal firebrand went on a lengthy Twitter tirade, calling Trump’s candidacy one built on “racism, sexism, and xenophobia” and supported by Russian President Vladimir Putin and the Ku Klux Klan.

So what should be the response to this?
AS for the KKK I don't think even a dozen people show up to their rallies so what .

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« Reply #1563 on: May 05, 2016, 05:07:33 AM »
Massachusetts senator and liberal firebrand went on a lengthy Twitter tirade, calling Trump’s candidacy one built on “racism, sexism, and xenophobia” and supported by Russian President Vladimir Putin and the Ku Klux Klan.

So what should be the response ...

 She was going to make that charge no matter who the nominee was. Our job was to  choose someone who would make those charge false.

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« Reply #1564 on: May 05, 2016, 05:53:33 AM »
Massachusetts senator and liberal firebrand went on a lengthy Twitter tirade, calling Trump’s candidacy one built on “racism, sexism, and xenophobia” and supported by Russian President Vladimir Putin and the Ku Klux Klan.

So what should be the response ...

 She was going to make that charge no matter who the nominee was. Our job was to  choose someone who would make those charge false.

The appropriate response to the left is always "fcuk you". Anything else is a waste of time.

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« Reply #1565 on: May 05, 2016, 07:26:02 AM »
"The appropriate response to the left is always "fcuk you". Anything else is a waste of time."

You mean like Obama says by his actions and deeds to conservative America every day.  Choooooommmmmm.......

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« Reply #1566 on: May 05, 2016, 07:51:33 AM »
"The appropriate response to the left is always "fcuk you". Anything else is a waste of time."

You mean like Obama says by his actions and deeds to conservative America every day.  Choooooommmmmm.......

Yup



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(Surprising the article in Crafty's post above made it into the NYT.)



I don't really need to post a Drudge headline since I am sure every one has seen it , but this says it all.  Kerry calling for an end to borders and thus nations and countries.  I think this need to be a part of Trumps campaign.  Do the people of this nation black white christian and not male and female want to live the way the elites have decided for us with one world not under God or do we want to keep the US of A .  Because if the left has it's way there will be no USA.  I would like to see how happy Black lives matter would be once they realize what dupes they are:

What does Kerry care?  he married into millions:
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/kerry-slams-trumps-wall-tells-grads-to-prepare-for-borderless-world/article/2590596
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« Reply #1571 on: May 12, 2016, 08:39:15 PM »
Jeff Sessions read my post here on this thread of May 8 which included:    :-D

"Kerry calling for an end to borders and thus nations and countries.  I think this need to be a part of Trumps campaign.  Do the people of this nation black white christian and not male and female want to live the way the elites have decided for us with one world not under God or do we want to keep the US of A .  Because if the left has it's way there will be no USA.  I would like to see how happy Black lives matter would be once they realize what dupes they are"

Session on Drudge today sums it up:

"For the first time in a long time, this November will give Americans a clear choice on perhaps the most important issue facing our country and our civilization: whether we remain a nation-state that serves its own people, or whether we slide irrevocably toward a soulless globalism that treats humans as interchangeable widgets in the world market."

We give up our nation to the world or we stay a country.  Some are surely happy with the former.  Obama, Kerry, and Zuckerberg whose only interest is expanding FAcebook (which could be renamed Zucker book) around the world.  Of course with him at the top.   I am not sure what most new immigrants think but I would think most later generation Americans would like to stay American.  Either way lets put this up front and center in this election. 

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« Reply #1572 on: May 12, 2016, 11:23:57 PM »
YES.

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"Should" vs. "Is"
« Reply #1573 on: May 13, 2016, 07:13:34 AM »
Don’t Get “Should” Mixed Up with “Is”
Posted: 28 Apr 2016 04:00 AM PDT

The hardest truth to swallow is that the world isn’t really fair, and it isn’t a world you’d necessarily draw up from scratch. It’s not usually what you suppose it should be. None of what’s around us came about by grand design: From a spark many billion years ago, things evolved in a fairly undirected manner (as far as we can tell).

When the world doesn’t quite agree with our ideas, we often begin distorting our own cognition. We confuse should with is, and then complain or rationalize when reality shows we’ve gotten the wrong answer.

The history of Marxist political ideology is a pretty good example. It’s not unreasonable to think that the world should, in some cosmic sense, be a bit more egalitarian. We’re all born and we all die just the same — why should some among us enjoy the spoils while some among us wallow? Capitalism encourages that outcome to an extent, and it sometimes accidentally rewards behavior that is anti-social or simply not adding anything to the world. (A thousand derivatives traders and casino operators just cringed.)

The problem is that reality is way more complex than a simple fairness test would hope to show.

A really large-scale egalitarian society has never worked for a few interrelated reasons, chief among them that: groups don’t have power, people have power (raising the question, who specifically decides how to allocate society’s resources?); utopia doesn’t scale; market forces provide very effective carrots, sticks, and signals that directed egalitarianism lacks, among other reasons. Reaching for extreme levelness in outcomes has always been deeply problematic and always will be, because that’s how reality is constructed.

Inevitably when certain people who get into power run the experiment again, and it does not work as intended, its deepest acolytes return to first principles instead of acknowledging a flawed premise. Well, that wasn’t real Marxism. Yes the proposed system of economic distribution didn’t work, but that’s not our fault. It still should be this way. Things should be fairer. We just did it wrong. Let’s run it again!

Results like that show the brain performing some real acrobatics to keep its desired and cherished idea intact. The Greek statesman Demosthenes, living about 350 years before the birth of Christ, put it best by saying “What a man wishes, he also believes.” In other words, because we want it to be true, we make it so in our minds, evidence be damned.

We’re all subject to this bias from time to time.

In the financial world, many an investor has seen his investment go south only to complain about how unfair the damn world is, how things shouldn’t have gone that way — the CEO should have been more attentive, the creditors should have been more fair, competitors should have been more rational. It’s not supposed to go like this! Far from the investor’s mind is the thought that he simply misdiagnosed a complex situation with a range of outcomes, including bad ones. But reality is irreducibly complicated — it doesn’t ignore things just because you do. It isn’t supposed to be anything. It’s just hard.
This isn’t to be harsh. It’s just the way things are. It’s not about you. Nature just doesn’t care too much about your should.

This happens in relationships all the time. It’s almost an iron rule of life that marrying someone with the intent of changing them is not going to work. Who wants to be chiseled, molded, and nagged by their spouse? Who’s really been successful at that? Most of us seek acceptance, and when we don’t get it, we fight for our independence. That’s just human nature.

And yet how many divorces happen due to traits that were plainly present before the marriage began? Is a continuation of long-held traits the fault of the non-compliant spouse, or was there a willful misunderstanding from Day 1?

That’s not to say that a good spouse shouldn’t work to improve themselves. Of course they should. It is a recognition of the base rate that major improvements are not very common.

Think of the last major personality flaw you had that you actually shed for good. I’ll wait…

And so our lack of understanding human nature and of the complex reality leads us to bad results, frequently because we wish the world was another way. We think it ought to be another way, and we keep that conclusion even after the world shows us we’re wrong, leading to one mistake after another as we rationalize repeated errors with ought style thinking.

Start resolving to test yourself with the basic question: Do I believe this because I wish it was so, or because it actually is so? Have I acted in some way because I wish that action caused success, or because it actually does? If you can’t tell the difference, it’s likely to be wishful. And if you simply don’t know, then leave it at that: You don’t know. Resolve to find out the truth as best you can.

Instead of beating our heads against the wall, we should spend more time trying to understand the world as it is, and live accordingly. Or, in the brilliant words of Joseph Tussman:

“What the pupil must learn, if he learns anything at all, is that the world will do most of the work for you, provided you cooperate with it by identifying how it really works and aligning with those realities. If we do not let the world teach us, it teaches us a lesson.”

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« Reply #1574 on: May 13, 2016, 08:09:53 AM »
"soulless globalism that treats humans as interchangeable widgets in the world market"

"We give up our nation to the world or we stay a country."
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Sessions is a great guy, one of the best, but there is a difference between judging the lousy products that come out of free enterprise / free trade and protecting our sovereignty. 

Trump constantly conflates sovereignty with trade protectionism.  The lowering of tariffs in Nafta wasn't the problem, the infringement on sovereignty was.  Same with WTO, TPP, etc.  Trump threatens NATO which has been successful and gives the sham called the UN a pass. 

My view: No global taxes.  No global laws.  Just voluntary agreements among countries.  Regimes who systematically rape, torture and poison their own, support terror and invade other countires might find themselves deposed by force, with or without a UN resolution.  For Trump, all those violations plus the shooting at American planes didn't justify use of force against Saddam in Iraq.

Note that Jeff Sessions and Trump were diametrically opposed on Iraq:
http://www.sessions.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/floor-statements?ID=a3a309fe-7e9c-9af9-7220-6bb130ef43cd 



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« Reply #1575 on: May 13, 2016, 08:37:16 AM »
"My view: No global taxes.  No global laws.  Just voluntary agreements among countries. "

I agree with # 1.  And # 3.  I am not sure about #2.  Some global laws are helpful in resolving peaceful disputes between nations.  Lest the powerful take advantage of the small.  But I confess I know essentially nothing about this.

"Trump constantly conflates sovereignty with trade protectionism. "

Doug knows more about this than me.  But Reagan utilized some protectionism.  At least when it came to national security.  Was Reagan wrong with this?

I am serious not being sarcastic.

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Dinesh D'Souza
« Reply #1577 on: May 21, 2016, 03:12:11 PM »

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« Reply #1578 on: May 21, 2016, 06:36:35 PM »
I watched the video showing Dinesh turn the college student's logic into a hypocrite self justification that it is.  I wonder who the older lady sitting in front and to the right of the student is.  She is egging him on clapping for the student.  I assume she is one of the college professors.  She is obviously anti - Dinesh.  Typical of the leftist professor class.

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Greetings, Slaves
« Reply #1579 on: May 22, 2016, 02:47:58 PM »
https://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2016/05/21/greetings-slaves/?singlepage=true

Greetings, Slaves
 BY RICHARD FERNANDEZ MAY 21, 2016

Thomas Lifson argues that Bernie Sanders presents "a mortal danger to not only the presidential campaign of Hillary Clinton, but the continued viability of the party’s strategy of mouthing populist rhetoric while practicing crony capitalism. Too late, they now realize he actually means what he says."

In an age where truth is the worst policy, socialism -- like Santa Claus -- is something no adult should believe in. That Sanders might actually have illusions lies at the heart of his appeal. To a cynical public a politician who doesn't calculate in explicit monetary terms is the nearest thing to secular sainthood. Hans Gruber, the villain in Die Hard, disappointed the industrialist he kidnapped by confessing: "Mr Takagi, ... I am far more interested in the 100 million dollars in negotiable bearer bonds hidden in your vault."

Takagi: You want money? What kind of terrorist are you?


 
We expect revolutionaries to be indifferent to money. Yet in reality the Left thinks about nothing but money as the Venezuelan socialists who have stolen $350 billion from the treasury, according to the Basel Institute on Governance, should have proved to the world. If it's any consolation to the Democratic Party, Bernie Sanders is not as indifferent to lucre as he seems. Sanders' filings show he's received money from Super PACs and donors with links to Wall Street -- so he may be normal after all.

Perhaps the first major 20th century writer to realize that the ambition of all true Communists should be to become billionaire revolutionaries was Hilaire Belloc. In his 1912 book, The Servile State, Belloc argued the then-burgeoning Communist movement would find more success ditching Leninism in favor of an alliance with Crony Capitalists to reinstate Slavery. "Slavery, or a Servile State in which those who do not own the means of production shall be legally compelled to work for those who do, and shall receive in exchange a security of livelihood."

This modern form of slavery would address not only the concerns of the revolutionaries by fixing job insecurity and guaranteeing retirement on a plantation basis, but also assuage the monopolists, who stay up nights worrying about preserving market share in the face of competition. An alliance between socialists and crony capitalists would solve both problems at once. The only price to pay for this convenience is the loss of public freedom and that is readily paid.

As for the rest, it would be sustainable. The crony capitalists would underwrite the projects of the collectivists. The ant-heaps of each would be so similar to the other that only a few changes in signage would be needed to turn regulated capitalism into the workers' paradise. It was a tremendous insight. Belloc realized Bolshevism was was too obviously destructive to last and anticipated the rise of what we would now call the Blue Model. F.A. Hayek paid tribute: "Hilaire Belloc ... explained that the effects of Socialist doctrine on Capitalist society is to produce a third thing different from either of its two begetters - to wit, the Servile State." Regarding the Servile State, George Orwell realized whatever name it gave itself, such an unholy alliance would be much the same quantity.


Many earlier writers have foreseen the emergence of a new kind of society, neither capitalist nor Socialist, and probably based upon slavery ... A good example is Hilaire Belloc's book, The Servile State ...  Jack London, in The Iron Heel ... Wells's The Sleeper Awakes (1900) ... Aldous Huxley's Brave New World (1930), all described imaginary worlds in which the special problems of capitalism had been solved without bringing liberty, equality, or true happiness any nearer. More recently, writers like Peter Drucker and F.A. Voigt have argued that Fascism and Communism are substantially the same thing. And indeed, it has always been obvious that a planned and centralized society is liable to develop into an oligarchy or a dictatorship.
The crucial point would be that this proposed Third Way would be more secure than the traditional Leninsim which rested upon the unholy Troika of Party, Army and Cheka. Paychecks would actually be met, courtesy of the crony capitalists. It's not surprising that after the collapse of the Soviets, the next collectivist social project was the much more "responsible" EU. But Larry Elliott, arguing in the Guardian for a British exit from Brussels, realized that distinction was more a matter of degree than substance. He characterized the EU not as "the US without the electric chair; it is the USSR without the gulag."  The correspondence with Belloc's 1912 prediction is eerie.

Belloc argued that the only two exits from the evils of crony capitalism were an expansion of property holdings to the great majority of the people (the classic conservative program) or collectivism. Of the two alternatives, the elites would find collectivism far the easier path. He wrote, "if you are suffering because property is restricted to a few, you can alter that factor in the problem either by putting property in the hands of many or the hands of none ... a trust or monopoly is welcomed because it 'furnishes a mode of transition from private to public ownership.'" Crony capitalism furnishes collectivism so well that the Servile State becomes indistinguishable from the Workers' Paradise and its leaders equally interchangeable. Thus we have billionaires who become men of the people and men of the people who become billionaires. Who could have foreseen this in 1912?



 
The so-called Socialist ... has not fallen into the Servile State by a miscalculation ... he welcomes its birth, he foresees his power over its future ... it is orderly in the extreme ... and the prospect of a vast bureaucracy wherein the whole of life shall be scheduled and appointed to certain simple schemes deriving from the co-ordinate work of public clerks and marshaled by powerful heads of departments gives his small stomach a final satisfaction.
Best of all, the socialist agitator was free under the arrangement to engage in his favorite project of remaking mankind to free him from "the ravages of drink: more fatal still the dreadful habit of mankind of forming families and breeding children." Belloc's Servile State anticipated the carnival at Davos with its weird hodgepodge of moralism, pseudo-scientific causes and economic diktat precisely because it understood what the power coalition of the future would look like.

Where both Belloc and Orwell may have erred was in assuming the Servile State could fix the sustainability problems that doomed Leninism. The hope of finding a lasting formula for collectivism lies at the heart of the USSR's reboot and the EU and Hillary's socialism in words but crony capitalism in deeds strategy, in contrast to Bernie Sanders' hair-on-fire socialism. Nobody argues with the collectivist goals, just about how to pay for them.  Both the EU and its American imitations are attempts at finding a socialism which can pay the bills. Unfortunately the present political crisis raises the  possibility that the Servile State itself is inherently unsustainable.

The issue which dogs Hillary and which no cosmetic distancing from Sanders will solve is that the middle class is losing faith in the platform. The political turmoil threatening to break apart the EU and the American Blue Model is rooted in the fact that both are broke and have no prospect of meeting obligations as manifested in the stagnation of wages in the West and also in the collapse of the "security" safety nets for which the present-day slaves have traded away their freedom. The progressive campaign is essentially predicated on the assumption that a sufficiently resolute government can defy the laws of financial gravity. There is now some doubt on that point.

Collectivism cannot even pay its pensions. "The present value of unfunded obligations under Social Security as of August 2010 was approximately $5.4 trillion. In other words, this amount would have to be set aside today such that the principal and interest would cover the program's shortfall between tax revenues and payouts over the next 75 years."  One of the culprits, ironically, is that the socialists have succeeded all too well in changing mankind's dreadful habit of forming families and breeding children.

It's not just the Government that's broke but also its political partners. Recently the Teamsters' Central States Pension Fund announced that it was bust. Unless it gets an infusion of taxpayer money, pension benefits for about 407,000 people could be reduced to "virtually nothing." Orwell famously said that "if you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face — forever." What he and Belloc failed to anticipate was that the boot might rot to pieces and fail to fulfill its function to oppress.

What Belloc left out of his model, very oddly for him especially, was God. (Those who object to the word can substitute one of their choosing: reality, consequences or arithmetic, it makes no difference.) God can't be fixed and shows up at the most inconvenient moments. Teamsters who are able to intimidate everything find they are finally helpless against addition and subtraction. At the end of it all they, like everyone else who has mismanaged their pensions, can pay their retirees "virtually nothing."

In the face of this failure perhaps it is time to revisit Belloc's alternatives. If the only remaining path is to encourage a return to the popular ownership of property and making markets freer as opposed to cutting deals with monopolists -- then so be it. Technology may be working in favor of the path not taken. As intellectual property becomes the dominant means of production, every human is automatically born with a certain amount of capital, provided Planned Parenthood doesn't get to him first.

Lincoln Steffens thought he saw a future that worked but it was cruel fraud. Why not try property this time instead of slavery? We've tried being slaves. Let's try being free. Belloc points out this idea is so revolutionary that anyone who espouses it will almost certainly be suspected of mental incapacity.

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one

I hope someday you'll join us

Then we can really have some fun.

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Interesting thought piece
« Reply #1580 on: May 23, 2016, 12:24:34 PM »
From a Chinese fortune cookie:

Good writing is clear thinking made visible.

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« Reply #1582 on: May 25, 2016, 09:44:03 PM »
That would be better in the "politics" thread.

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2016, this is where we are
« Reply #1583 on: May 28, 2016, 03:52:37 PM »

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« Reply #1584 on: May 29, 2016, 11:27:14 AM »
 :-D

I guess we could live on protein fat and carbohydrate drinks and vitamins and mineral water.

This reminds me of the knowledge demonstrated by people Jesse Waters interviews on Fox. 

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So irrational it is sad
« Reply #1585 on: May 30, 2016, 06:21:26 AM »
Not unexpected from a guy who co hosts a Sharpton show and already has a book on how Trump would govern. 

The visceral hatred some Blacks have for whites and anyone associated with the Republican Party is beyond logic:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/earl-ofari-hutchinson/true-danger-signs-in-clinton-email_b_10197998.html?utm_hp_ref=politics

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More left wing coverup
« Reply #1586 on: May 30, 2016, 06:36:05 AM »
for the Clinton crime organization. 
Just keep denying the patently obvious:

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/05/29/huffington-post-removes/

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Re: Political Rants & interesting thought pieces
« Reply #1587 on: May 30, 2016, 07:03:18 AM »
Gents:

The last few posts would have been better in other threads e.g. Politics, 2016 Election, etc. 

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Noonan: A Party Divided, and none too soon
« Reply #1588 on: June 03, 2016, 08:10:20 AM »
A Party Divided, and None Too Soon
Beltway Republicans will have to come to terms with how they lost Middle America.
Donald Trump at a campaign rally in Sacramento, Calif. June 1, 2016. ENLARGE
Donald Trump at a campaign rally in Sacramento, Calif. June 1, 2016. Photo: Reuters
By Peggy Noonan
June 2, 2016 6:48 p.m. ET
492 COMMENTS

This first month of summer I see movement and no-movement.

No movement: Donald Trump. He’s like someone caught in the first act who lurches into a second act—a solid, prepared speech, a subdued interview—then scrambles back to first-act antics. It’s easy to guess he’s surrounded by friends and supporters who know more is needed than popping off about “Crooked Hillary” but are afraid to mess with his swing. They fear taking the tang out of his secret sauce. Another guess: He’s not sure he can pull off a change of style—he’s afraid he’ll be boring if he’s serious, afraid he’ll bore himself if he knows what he’s going to say next. So he continues to rant, not to reassure fence sitters. Hillary Clinton hasn’t entered a second act either, but it’s partly situational: She’s trapped in a primary battle. When it comes to Mr. Trump she tries various attack lines—“divisive,” “dangerous,” “dangerously incoherent”—to see what resonates, as they say. She is plodding, unimaginative, stolid. She wishes she had secret sauce.

Closer to home I see movement. Friends who’d been for John Kasich or Marco Rubio now sunnily and without a headache declare themselves for Mr. Trump. An intellectual friend, previously disapproving, confided she’s for him too. But two friends who had been early, enthusiastic Trump backers now seem to be having doubts: They’ve lost their oomph, talk about him less. Nothing’s set in concrete this year, not that anything was.

A central predicament of 2016 continues. GOP elites and intellectual cadres may be clueless about America right now, but they have an informed and appropriately elevated sense of the demands of the presidency. They fear Mr. Trump’s temperament and depth do not meet its requirements. Trump supporters have a more grounded sense of America and its problems but too low a sense of what the presidency can demand in regard to personal virtues. If this problem is to be resolved, it is Mr. Trump who will resolve it. He shows little interest. This space said in February that his political fortunes would hinge on whether America came to think of him as a good man and a fully stable one. It is still true.

The Beltway intelligentsia of the conservative movement continues to be upset about Mr. Trump’s coming nomination and claim they’d support him but they have to be able to sleep at night. They slept well enough through two unwon wars, the great recession, and the refusal of Republican and Democratic administrations to stop illegal immigration. In a typically evenhanded piece in National Review, Ramesh Ponnuru writes of conservative infighting. Most back Mr. Trump, but others, “especially among conservative writers, activists, and think-tankers,” vow they’ll never vote for him. “This debate splits people who have heretofore been friends with similar views on almost all issues, and who on each side have reasonable arguments to hand. It is therefore being conducted in a spirit of mutual rage, bitterness, and contempt.”

That’s witty and true—I’ve seen it—but the division is also promising. Too much has long been “agreed on.” At some point conservative intellectuals are going to take their energy and start thinking about how we got here. How did a party that stood for regular people become a party that stood for platitudes regular people no longer found even vaguely pertinent? During the Bush administration, did the party intelligentsia muscle critics and silence needed dissent, making the party narrower, more rigid and embittered? What is the new conservatism for this era? How did the party of Main Street become the party of Donors’ Policy Preferences?

An anecdote. Two years ago at a birthday party for a mutual friend, I bumped into a hedge-fund billionaire who turned to me angrily and lashed out over something I’d written that seemed to him insufficiently conservative. I listened, merely blinking with surprise I’m sorry to say, and removed myself from his flight path. Afterward I thought about how he must have come to view himself. He is, as I said, vastly wealthy, but also generous, giving time and money to think tanks, groups, candidates. He must view all this, I thought, as a targeted investment. Maybe he sees himself as having . . . a controlling investment. Maybe he thinks he bought conservatism. I felt in a sharp new way that my criticisms of the donor class had been right. Inevitably they see to their own enthusiasms and policy priorities. This was how the GOP became the party of We Don’t Care What Americans Think About Illegal Immigration. Who do those Americans think they are—they think they own the place?

A great party needs give. It needs a kind of capaciousness and broadness. On that, the best example of movement I’ve seen in some time is what I discovered this week: a sophisticated, rather brilliant and anonymous website that is using this Trumpian moment to break out of the enforced conservative orthodoxy of the past 15 years.

It is called the Journal of American Greatness. Its contributors ask questions that need asking and makes critiques that sting.

They describe themselves as “aghast at the stupidity and corruption of American politics, particularly in the Republican Party, and above all in what passes for the ‘conservative’ intellectual movement.” Who are they? “None of your damned business.” Why? “Because the times are so corrupt that simply stating certain truths is enough to make one unemployable for life.”

Where they stand: “We support Trumpism, defined as secure borders, economic nationalism, interests-based foreign policy, and above all judging every government action through a single lens: does this help or harm Americans? For now, the principal vehicle of Trumpism is Trump.”

They explore essential questions. “When—and why—did free trade become a sacred ritual of the Republican right?” They give neoconservatism its intellectual due but explore the “unwisdom” of the “Middle East democracy agenda.” Neoconservatives seem “incapable of learning from their mistakes or changing their minds.” The contributors hilariously score NeverTrumpers who claim to be standing at great cost on principle while others are “in the tank” for Mr. Trump: “Of all the opinions that require little courage to express, opposition to Trump is the lead one.” In the past two decades, they observe, “a new conservative intellectual superstructure,” including magazines, journals and think tanks, was built on the new base of the Republican Party. It “routinized the production of its self-justification.” But “the base no longer wants the superstructure.” Voters have their own ideas of what conservatism is.

I contacted JAG by social media and asked about their work. “If we had to characterize ourselves, we would like to think that our writing is informed by a mix of pragmatic experience and theory. What brings us together is our dismay at the stultification of political ideas in the United States. We see ourselves as challenging the intellectual rigidity that has come to characterize, in our view, so much of what passes for self-described ‘serious thinking’ today.”

Their reach and the reactions they’ve received “have thus far significantly exceeded our expectations.”

It’s encouraging they’re doing what they’re doing, and that there is a market for it.

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Re: Political Rants & interesting thought pieces
« Reply #1589 on: June 03, 2016, 01:53:13 PM »
Noonan has seemed to pick up on and understand the Trump phenomenon much sooner than most Republicans or conservatives.

Some of them are only now jumping on board.  Some appear to be doing so to save their own skins if you ask me - McConnell for example.

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Re: Political Rants & interesting thought pieces
« Reply #1590 on: June 03, 2016, 04:17:11 PM »
Peggy has had my respect for many years now.

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What say ye?
« Reply #1591 on: June 09, 2016, 07:57:14 AM »
I don't know.  A lot of people making big bucks off these so called PACs.  Is this anything other than a business scam or is this guy for real?  too much money involved to take this shit seriously.

I would be very careful donating one cent to any of these probably mostly bullshit scams:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/why-republican-created-pac-help-100005165.html?nhp=1

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A liberal?
« Reply #1592 on: June 10, 2016, 01:28:49 PM »
Apparently he is now involved with globalist or one world government group as well:

http://www.breitbart.com/2nd-amendment/2016/06/10/general-david-petraeus-forming-gun-control-group-with-mark-kelly/

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Re: A liberal?
« Reply #1593 on: June 10, 2016, 01:59:34 PM »
Apparently he is now involved with globalist or one world government group as well:

http://www.breitbart.com/2nd-amendment/2016/06/10/general-david-petraeus-forming-gun-control-group-with-mark-kelly/

I guess when they raised their right hands and swore to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic, they really didn't mean it.

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Re: Political Rants & interesting thought pieces
« Reply #1594 on: June 13, 2016, 04:57:04 AM »
Hardly a mention if at all that guy going to LA found with explosives etc was for Bernie Sanders.  If he were for Trump it would be headlines on every leftist and main stream (also leftist) media outlet:

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_GAY_PRIDE_EXPLOSIVES_ARREST_THE_LATEST?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-06-12-17-58-57


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Re: Political Rants & interesting thought pieces
« Reply #1595 on: June 14, 2016, 07:13:03 AM »
That would be for the Homeland thread, yes?  No relation to this thread-- and what is the source for saying he is a Sanders supporter?

Sorry to be abrupt-- headed out.

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Re: Political Rants & interesting thought pieces
« Reply #1596 on: June 14, 2016, 07:24:19 AM »
http://www.newsday.com/news/nation/james-wesley-howell-arrested-at-calif-gay-pride-parade-was-on-probation-in-ind-1.11907256


"The page's most recent public post, from June 3, shows a photo comparing an Adolf Hitler quote to one from Hillary Clinton. An anti-Clinton, pro-Bernie Sanders photo was posted in February."




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DC statehood
« Reply #1597 on: July 03, 2016, 07:12:32 PM »
Of course, with seal of approval from Obama and Clinton to add 2 more Democratic Senators and a few more Congressmen from what 80% democratic residents?:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dc-politics/what-to-call-the-51st-state-district-leaders-settle-on-new-columbia/2016/06/29/b47d1b6a-3e04-11e6-80bc-d06711fd2125_story.html

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Re: The Rant to end all Rants
« Reply #1599 on: July 05, 2016, 09:30:48 PM »
https://www.facebook.com/nevereveragainever/videos/vb.313210635511804/632368516929346/?type=2&theater

They just deleted it, but I saw it first. I wonder if they're already getting death threats from the religion of peace.

Here's another link to the same video.

https://www.facebook.com/1710744702493021/videos/1811126315788192/
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