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No Borders activist gang raped
« Reply #502 on: October 06, 2015, 11:37:16 AM »

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More Ignorance & Denial of Islam's Teachings...
« Reply #503 on: October 06, 2015, 11:41:25 AM »
MUSLIM MURDERS POLICE OFFICIAL, AUTHORITIES RUSH TO DEFEND…ISLAM

Just another day in the suicidal West.

October 6, 2015  Robert Spencer    


Last week a fifteen-year-old Muslim, Farhad Jabar Khalil Mohammad, went to a police station in New South Wales and shot dead a civilian police employee, Curtis Cheng. After the murder, the young murderer was, according to an eyewitness, “dancing joyously.” Outside the station, he waved his gun at police and screamed “Allahu akbar” at them before he was killed in the ensuing gunfight.

In the wake of this jihad murder, Australian officials have behaved in an utterly predictable manner – one that we have seen many, many times before in Western countries, and that we will doubtless see many more times as well: they rushed to profess ignorance of the killer’s motives and above all, to defend Islam.

None of these officials are Muslims. They have all just been thoroughly indoctrinated with the idea that to look too closely at the motivating ideology behind murders like that of Curtis Cheng would be “hateful” and “bigoted.”

And so Pat Gooley from the New South Wales Police Association said: “We are used to being under threat. What’s really concerning police is there’s no rhyme or reason to these current terror threats.”

No rhyme or reason? Have you ever heard of jihad, Mr. Gooley? Evidently not.

Other police officials, meanwhile, made themselves busy ensuring that Farhad Jabar Khalil Mohammad’s jihad murder doesn’t lead anyone to think there is anything amiss with the Muslim community. The murder “was doubly shocking because it was perpetrated by a 15-year-old boy and it underlines the importance of families, communities, leaders being very aware of whether young people are becoming radicalised,” said Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull, complacently assuming that Muslim “families, communities, leaders” in Australia are against this “radicalization” — but where is the evidence of that?

Turnbull also said: “We must not vilify or blame the entire Muslim community with the actions of what is, in truth, a very, very small percentage of violent extremist individuals. The Muslim community are our absolutely necessary partners in combating this type of violent extremism.”

When has the Muslim community in Australia or elsewhere in the West genuinely acted like partners in combating this type of violent extremism? And we must indeed not vilify or blame the entire Muslim community, but can we not call upon them to institute honest, transparent and inspectable programs in mosques and Islamic schools that teach against this understanding of Islam that they ostensibly reject and oppose?

Meanwhile, opposition leader Bill Shorten said: “Our thoughts are also with the family of the alleged young perpetrator. Like all Australians, they will be struggling to comprehend how someone so young could be part of such a terrible crime.” How does he know his family wasn’t involved? Has he carried out an investigation? He assumes that the family taught young Farhad Jabar Khalil Mohammad the true, peaceful Islam, but that he was then “radicalized on the Internet” — but why was his family’s true, peaceful Islam not able to withstand the challenge from the twisted, hijacked Internet Islam?

New South Wales Premier Mike Baird said that he and others were trying to understand “how someone so young could commit such a hideous crime.” He might wish to look into Islam’s teachings about jihad, but he won’t. He also said: “We cannot let actions such as this divide us. We cannot let hate overtake us. We have to come together and I’m sure that’s what we’ll see from this city and state.”

Indeed, we must not let hate overtake us, as it overtook Curtis Cheng. But can we do that by refusing to examine the ideology that led to his murder? By “hate,” Baird means “honest investigation into the texts and teachings of Islam that incite attacks such as this one, and the prevalence of such teachings in the Muslim community.”

And that’s the problem: every time there is another jihad attack or foiled jihad plot in the free world, our leaders just circle the wagons, trot out their Religion-of-Peace cliches again, warn us against “Islamophobia,” and refuse to look into the genuine root causes of the problem.

It’s a sure-fire path to societal suicide.

"You have enemies?  Good.  That means that you have stood up for something, sometime in your life." - Winston Churchill.




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Islam in Europe: The Refugee Invasion
« Reply #508 on: October 26, 2015, 07:51:39 PM »
 The Refugee Crisis: What Europe Can Learn From the Past
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Portuguese workmen set off to France from London to look for employment in June 1917. (TOPICAL PRESS AGENCY/Getty Images)
Forecast

    In Europe, the process of integrating foreigners will remain problematic, especially because migrant workers tend to have fewer job opportunities than their native peers.
    Right-wing parties and groups will continue to resist arriving foreigners, attack migrant shelters and protest immigration policies.
    Although immigration can somewhat mitigate the effects of a shrinking and aging population, it cannot reverse it, nor will all EU members attract foreigners to join their workforces.

Analysis

In recent weeks, the massive arrival of asylum seekers opened a debate about the economic and political repercussions of immigration in Europe. The discussion is not entirely new. Traditionally, migrations in and out of Europe have shaped the Continent. Merchants, artists and intellectuals moved between European countries to practice their trade. British, Dutch, Germans and Swedes also immigrated to the United States, while Spaniards and Italians sought South America. Europe has had its fair share of population displacements as well: Russians moved to Western Europe after the Bolshevik revolution, and Greece and Turkey exchanged parts of their populations after World War I.

Many displaced peoples were forced to resettle in the decades following World War II, creating even more intra-European migrations. Many ethnic Germans living in Central and Eastern Europe were expelled from their homes in retaliation for the war. While reliable numbers are hard to find, by the early 1950s almost 8 million ethnic Germans had moved into Western Germany, while some 3.5 million had moved into Eastern Germany. Also after the war, hundreds of thousands of southern Europeans emigrated to Northern Europe and the Americas to escape poverty and unemployment.

By the 1950s and 1960s, decolonization had resulted in people from Africa, the Middle East and Southeast Asia moving to their former colonial powers, creating demographic change in Europe. In many cases, European countries actually encouraged this movement, because immigrants were needed to bolster the workforce of a rapidly growing European economy.

But this golden era of the "guest workers" programs had one underlying issue: The policies were based on the assumption that the migrants would eventually return home. Most of these programs subsequently ended with the economic downturn that followed the oil crises of the early 1970s. However, migrants still continued to flow into Europe thanks to family reunification policies, Turkish families moving to Germany probably being the most distinct example.

The early 1990s were again a time of European migration, with Germany once more at the center of the process. The fall of the Berlin Wall enabled ethnic Germans living in Eastern Europe and the former Soviet Union to move to the reunified Germany, and people from the former East Germany move to the more developed West Germany. The 1990s were later marked by the collapse of Yugoslavia and the ethnic conflicts that followed, which forced even more people to seek Western Europe.

And in the 2000s, two events shaped migration to Europe. The first was the European Union's enlargement to the east, which allowed citizens from countries in the former Communist bloc to legally work in Western Europe. The second was the financial crisis, which encouraged hundreds of thousands of Portuguese, Spanish, Irish and Greeks to immigrate to Germany, the United Kingdom and other wealthy economies in the north.

Signs From the Past

The current migration flow into Europe is somewhat different from those of the past. Unlike the litany of previous population movements, this one involves a combination of asylum seekers from Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan and economic migrants from sub-Saharan Africa and the Balkans, most of whom arrive in Europe by land or sea. Many of these migrants endure long and dangerous trips from their countries of origin.

To an extent, it resembles the displacement of ethnic Germans and people from the former Yugoslavia because many of the migrants are fleeing war and ethnic persecution. It also partially resembles the decolonization process because it mostly involves non-Europeans. But the current migration flow differs from the others in the sense that it is chaotic and massive, and it affects multiple countries in different ways. Whether Europe should have been prepared for this migration influx is irrelevant at this point. Simply put, the European Union has been overwhelmed by the events.

The predicament has laid bare the shortcomings of EU migration policies because countries in the bloc's external borders had to deal with an influx of people they were not prepared to handle. It has also threatened the principle of free movement of people in the bloc; several countries reintroduced border controls to disrupt the migration routes. Finally, it deepened the Continent's already serious political divisions. The debate over measures to address the crisis revealed different approaches among member states, and a plan to relocate asylum seekers across the Continent was approved only after Berlin and Brussels threatened to introduce punitive measures on countries deciding not to participate.

Still, while this refugee crisis is unique in many aspects, previous migration experiences offer some indications of how it could affect Europe. First, the process of integrating foreigners remains problematic for European nations. In most Western European countries, migrant workers tend to be disproportionally represented in the bottom segments of the national earnings distribution. Eurostat data also shows that in most EU countries, unemployment rates are higher among migrants. Both disadvantages are particularly pronounced among non-European immigrants — a key aspect to keep in mind considering the backgrounds of the men and women currently arriving in Europe.

For example, a recent report by Germany's Interior Ministry shows that the unemployment rate among workers with an immigrant background is almost twice as high as that among the non-immigrant population. The same report says young foreigners are less successful in school than their German peers, which makes finding jobs more difficult. This suggests that in many cases there is a perpetuation of the disadvantage between foreigners and locals; the children of immigrant families encounter problems similar to those of their parents in trying to enter the workforce.

Second, migration flows generally produce political and social reactions in the receiving countries. In the United Kingdom, for example, the arrival of Central and Eastern European workers (mostly Polish) in the mid-2000s contributed to the electoral rise of the anti-immigration UKIP party. Though the British electoral system prevented UKIP from winning a significant representation in the British Parliament, the party's popularity influenced the behavior of the Conservative Party government, which introduced reforms to make it harder for foreigners to access welfare benefits. This is also one of London's priorities for EU reform.

France is another clear example of a country where the constant influx of non-European immigrants combined with the failure to integrate them completely leads to discontent among both immigrants and the receiving population. The French riots of 2005 and 2009 and the electoral rise of the right-wing National Front are symptomatic of the social tensions created by decades of migration from former French colonies.

Even Sweden, a country famous for its tolerance for immigrants, experienced disturbances when violence broke out in a Stockholm suburb where a relatively large group of immigrant residents lived in 2013. The Swedish justice minister was blunt in her explanation of the causes of the riots; she said that "social segregation" was to blame. Thus local populations are just as likely to react to rising immigration. Norway's intelligence service even went so far as to say the biggest risk posed by the influx of migrants was a violent reaction from far-right groups rather than Islamists infiltrating the country.

The Demographic Impact

Third, previous migrations show that the movement of people affects demographics. As life expectancy improves and fertility rates drop, most populations in European countries are aging and shrinking, which will reduce the size of their workforces in the coming decades. These changes will in turn create fiscal challenges for these countries as they are forced to spend more in pensions and health care.

On the surface, immigration looks like a good way of mitigating the process of demographic change. If a country cannot produce enough workers domestically, it may as well import them. There is some truth to this. However, France and the United Kingdom, which have some of the highest fertility rates in Europe and populations that will continue to grow during this century while the overall EU population is expected to begin to decline by the 2050s, are still two of Europe's main destinations for immigrants. This partially explains why Germany, the country with the lowest fertility rate in the European Union, was so enthusiastic to receive immigrants during the early stages of the refugee crisis, while the United Kingdom refused to participate in the EU plan to accept more migrants.

But immigration is not an antidote to demographic change. First, fertility rates are dropping across the board, even among immigrant families. Second, decisions that may make sense economically are often not viable politically. Countries in Central and Eastern Europe, which in the coming decades will face serious problems because of low fertility rates and high levels of emigration, were critical of the EU plan to relocate migrants. These are relatively homogeneous societies where many locals feel that a spike in immigration would threaten their national identity.

Few Options for Europe

Finally, migrants tend to go where jobs are available and migration policies are friendly. This fact will undermine any EU efforts to introduce one-size-fits-all policies such as the automatic relocation of migrants. If a migrant wants to go to Austria, there is little the European Union can do to keep him or her in Romania. If Germany allows refugees to work three months after they arrive in the country while France makes them wait for a year, it is only natural that migrants will continue to choose Germany over France. And as long as Sweden offers friendlier asylum legislation than Denmark, the former will be a destination country where the latter will be a transit country for asylum seekers.

Over the past few weeks, the European Union has changed its approach to the migration crisis. The bloc's immediate reaction focused on how to host an increasing number of foreigners, but its attention rapidly changed to how to prevent them from entering the Continent. EU leaders recently announced more financial aid for countries in the Middle East and Africa, and the bloc's naval operation in the Mediterranean will soon start boarding and seizing vessels in international waters. These are only palliative measures that will have a limited effect.

Since the beginning of the crisis, many European politicians have suggested that the European Union should emulate Australia, which intercepts migrants arriving by boat and sends them to detention centers on island nations in the Pacific Ocean. But Australia is both an island continent and a nation-state, and Europe is neither of those things. Europe is geographically and historically linked to the Middle East and North Africa, and the movement of people between the two will not stop any time soon. The European Union is also a club of nation-states where global solutions are elusive and often counterproductive.

In the months ahead, the European Union is likely to harden its resolve to stem immigration, taking steps to consolidate the so-called Fortress Europe. But this position will have little meaning without additional measures to integrate those who have already arrived and those who will undoubtedly arrive in the future.


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Re: Islam in Europe
« Reply #510 on: November 02, 2015, 09:53:10 AM »
This will continue until people are honest about the fact that not everyone wants to be friends.

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Re: Islam in Europe
« Reply #511 on: November 02, 2015, 10:37:53 AM »
And more precisely - Islam's stated goal is world domination and conquest.  Unbelievers are to be converted, enslaved, or executed.  There are no other options.
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Islam in UK prisons
« Reply #512 on: November 06, 2015, 08:56:13 AM »
Report: Muslim Intimidation Pervasive in British Prisons
by Johanna Markind
The American Thinker
November 3, 2015
http://www.meforum.org/5615/islam-british-prisons
 
 
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Originally published under the title "Islam in British Prisons."
 
British Muslims are three times more likely than the population at large to be in prison, though many have converted to Islam behind bars.
Muslim Abuse of Non-Muslim Prisoners
Recent media reports of government investigations indicate that throughout the United Kingdom's category A prisons – those holding the most serious offenders – of Belmarsh, Long Lartin, Woodhill and Whitemoor, gangs of Islamist extremists intimidate non-Muslim prisoners. Muslim inmates pressure non-Muslims to convert and extort money from prisoners who do not. It is unclear how long the problem has been going on. Media previously reported about pressure to convert three and a half years ago.
According to the UK's Independent Monitoring Board, Muslims are overrepresented in Whitemoor prison, a maximum security facility holding about 450 inmates. Muslims make up about half of the total population of that facility. The board also noted, Muslim gangs make up the "biggest power bloc," and "some prisoners and staff found the Muslim presence overwhelming."
Demographics
As of December 2014, 12,225 of the UK's 84,691 prisoners were Muslim. That is to say, Muslims made up 14.4% of the UK's prison population.
According to the UK's most recent census – in 2011 – roughly 2,706,066 or 4.8% out of a population of 56,075,912 identified as Muslim (although, given that the UK's total population is elsewhere identified as 63.2 million, the actual Muslim percentage may be closer to 4.28%).
Based on the 4.8% figure, Muslims appear to be overrepresented in the British prison population by 3.01 times their percentage of the population.
 
According to the UK's Independent Monitoring Board, Muslim gangs make up the "biggest power bloc" at Whitemoor prison and "some prisoners and staff found the Muslim presence overwhelming."
Back in 2002, 5,502 of the UK's 70,778 prisoners, or 7.8%, were Muslim. According to the 2001 census, Muslims constituted 3.0% of the total UK population. In other words, Muslims were overrepresented in the UK prison population by 2.59 times their percentage of the population. So the current numbers may represent an increase in degree of overrepresentation (only "may," because population data for 2014 is unavailable, given that the last census was three years earlier), but not a huge one.
More noteworthy is the fact that, compared to Muslim incarceration rates in France and the United States, the UK rate is actually low. Muslims are overrepresented in the French prison population by 7.5 times their percentage of the population; they make up 60% of the French prison population but only 8% of the general population. In the United States, although their overall percentage is smaller, Muslims are overrepresented in the prison population by 11.25 times their percentage of the population; they make up 9% of the US prison population but only .8% of the general population).
Questions Remaining
Will the UK government act to protect non-Muslim prisoners from intimidation by Muslim prisoners? Will it sanction the Muslim gangs and their accomplices? Or will it simply accept second-class status for non-Muslims, as the UK's justice system seems in danger of doing?
Will the UK government act to protect non-Muslim prisoners from Muslim intimidation?
Will it explore the factors leading to overrepresentation of Muslims in the prison population? One must wonder whether the overrepresentation is at least partly the result of intimidation against other prisoners to convert.
Given that Muslims are able to exert so much pressure in prisons for serious offenders, and make up about half of the prison population at one of them (Whitemoor), are Muslims particularly overrepresented in more serious offenses? If so, why?
Finally, given these reports, and the even greater overrepresentation of Muslims in French and US prisons, will authorities in France and the US investigate whether Islamist extremists in their prisons are likewise pressuring and or extorting non-Muslim prisoners, and whether Muslims are especially overrepresented among more serious criminals?
Johanna Markind is associate counselor at the Middle East Forum

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Re: Islam in Europe & America - Merced Stabbings
« Reply #515 on: November 09, 2015, 11:36:23 AM »
Not knowing where to put this but:

The UC Merced knife stabber  (Had he read Ben Carson's book?  :evil:) was a follower of Islam. He was also apparently on the Terror Watch List, and the college and local PD briefed about him. Notice that the media is not covering this story, even here in the Bay Area where Merced is just a couple of hours away.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/11/report-uc-merced-stabber-was-on-terror-watch-list-had-islamic-state-flag
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Islam's migration to/invasion of Europe
« Reply #516 on: November 10, 2015, 08:35:59 AM »
I don't know if this video has been "sensationalized", but the scenes it shows on the Islamic migration to Europe is in one word...frightening. This is the future of the US without control of our borders.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44vzMNG2fZc&feature=youtu.be&t=1019
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Stratfor: The coming fustercluck in the Balkans
« Reply #517 on: November 12, 2015, 11:00:41 AM »


Two notable developments occurred Nov. 11 related to Europe's migrant crisis, notable not so much for what they directly achieved but for their potential effects. Both events concerned the migration route that passes across the eastern Mediterranean and up through the Balkans, which has been largely responsible for the massive uptick in immigrant numbers in 2015. The first was a statement from the Czech Republic's deputy prime minister, Andrej Babis, who said that since Greece has not been adequately controlling its borders it should be ejected from the Schengen zone, which allows free movement of people in Europe. The second was the news that Slovenia has begun to erect a fence on its border with Croatia.

Babis' comments are important: Greece's exclusion from the Schengen area would deal a blow both to the European Union itself and to Greece's place within it. The links among its members have already been strained by the immigrant crisis, with some countries claiming emergency conditions and erecting fences with their non-Schengen neighbors, while others have suspended border crossings within the borderless zone, temporarily nullifying its effects. If a country were to be booted out of the borderless area, it would be a further blow to the structural integrity of the entire initiative. For Greece, meanwhile, whose continued existence in the European Union has been in doubt for much of the year primarily for financial reasons, would see another rope that ties it to the union severed, creating even more distance between Greeks and their European counterparts and thus facilitating an eventual Grexit.

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Potentially consequential though Babis' statements may be, Greece is probably not leaving the Schengen area any time soon. Europe's leaders will be well aware of the risks its departure creates, and kicking Greece out would not actually help the situation that much. This is because Schengen is a system designed to make it easy to cross the borders that exist between Schengen members, removing the need for papers to be checked. Greece's Schengen membership is not a factor in the current crisis because Greece does not have any Schengen neighbors, so any migrants traveling by land are entering the Schengen area when they enter Greece, but they then leave it again to continue up through the Balkans before entering it once more in countries such as Hungary or Slovenia. If migrants were entering Greece and at that stage booking flights or ferries to other Schengen territories, it might be an issue. But at this stage they are not (at least not in significant numbers).

It is the second development that actually has the potential to change the situation on the ground more dramatically. Slovenia has said it is building a fence to control the flow of migrants — not to cut off that flow — but once the building has begun it is not hard to imagine it continuing to its natural conclusion. This would close off the narrow passage through which the migrants currently pass. Throughout the year, migrants have taken small boats from Turkey to Greek islands, ridden to the mainland by ferry, and made their way up through Macedonia and Serbia to Europe. Hungary's erection of fences on its border first with Serbia and then with Croatia has steadily driven the flow westward, until the majority of the migrants have been passing through the bottleneck of the Croatia-Slovenia border. This has created so many problems in Slovenia that they have decided to erect a fence to inhibit migrants. If the fence did end up passing all the way from the Hungarian border to the Adriatic Sea, it would finally plug the migrants' route, since there would be no way to continue going west — at least not by land.

Under such circumstances, the migrants, whose flow to Europe has thus far not abated in November, would be facing some hard choices. If they decided to take their chances on an eastern land route up through Romania, there would be a high likelihood that Hungary would soon erect a fence on that border as well, just as it did on its border with Serbia and Croatia earlier in the year. At that stage, the migrants might continue northward, assuming they could overcome the barrier of the Carpathian Mountains, and into Ukraine, which is not currently the most hospitable of states, and on to Slovakia and Poland, which are themselves two of the more anti-migrant countries.

Alternatively, migrants might start to seek different routes to Europe, routes that would probably require another sea crossing into Italy, most easily at the top of the peninsula between Croatia and Trieste. If that were inhibited by Croatian and Italian authorities, migrants would have to attempt a longer crossing farther down the Adriatic Sea. This would be similar (though in most cases longer) to the crossing they would have made from Turkey to Greece, though it is unlikely that they would be able to find transport so easily. After a year of building migrant flows there is now a small cottage industry operating off the Turkish coast that provides inflatable boats for the quantities of people making the crossing every day, but even this very mobile and opportunistic industry would take a while to get going on the Dalmatian coast. The high numbers of migrants butting up against the new Slovenian fence would be unlikely to be able to find an accommodating group of black market traffickers able to provide vessels for so many customers at such short notice.

Thus, faced with these two unattractive options, there is a high possibility that many of these migrants would find themselves stuck on the wrong side of the European fences for an extended period. This would have the potential to be very destructive. The Balkan states, which would then have to cope with large numbers of people not just passing through but actually remaining, have already exchanged angry words this year. For a multitude of ethnic and historical reasons the region has a reputation for being a powder keg, and throwing in the spark of having to support large numbers of migrants who cannot go forward and cannot go back could have serious consequences. Added to the regional tensions there is also the possibility of a humanitarian crisis as winter draws in, and these countries are some of the least prepared in Europe to be able to provide extensive facilities for these people. Slovenia, then, constitutes an ever-narrowing bottleneck through which the flow of migrants is still being allowed to pass. The consequences of shutting this bottleneck, if it were to happen, could be disastrous for the region and for Europe as a whole.

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Re: Islam in Europe
« Reply #519 on: November 13, 2015, 02:39:10 PM »
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/11995227/Paris-shooting-Many-feared-dead-live.html

4th Paris attack just occurred. But don't worry, Islam is the religion of peace.

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Re: Islam in Europe
« Reply #520 on: November 13, 2015, 02:57:06 PM »
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/11995227/Paris-shooting-Many-feared-dead-live.html

4th Paris attack just occurred. But don't worry, Islam is the religion of peace.



Obviously France needs more gun control, and grenade control.

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Re: Islam in Europe
« Reply #521 on: November 13, 2015, 03:11:01 PM »
It is now up to 6 different locations and the stadium where a suicide bombing took place.

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Self Inflicted nightmare in Sweden
« Reply #524 on: November 14, 2015, 03:58:24 PM »
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/14/opinion/swedens-self-inflicted-nightmare.html

Sweden's Self-Inflicted Nightmare

By BENJAMIN R. TEITELBAUMNOV. 13, 2015


Sweden’s message to migrants in Europe is clear: Don’t come here. “Even we have our limits, and now they have been reached,” a defeated-sounding migration minister, Morgan Johansson, explained during a press conference on Nov. 5. “Those who come to our borders may be told that we cannot guarantee them housing.”

That message, nailed down this week when the government announced that Sweden was reintroducing border controls, was a sudden shift from an administration that had claimed there were “no limits” to the number of refugees it could accept. The reversal testifies not only to intensifying challenges Sweden faces abroad, but also to the dysfunctional nature of its immigration debate at home.

Sweden’s backtracking is part of a larger trend as Europe struggles to deal with the hundreds of thousands of Middle Eastern and African asylum seekers. States that together with Sweden had been advocating generosity and openness — like Austria and Germany — now too are tightening their policies and calling for Europe to reinforce its external borders. Their efforts have turned to repatriating those without legitimate claims to asylum as well as relocating part of their migrant populations to other, less inundated E.U. states like Poland, France or Denmark.

Making progress on either front promises to be a challenge. Indeed, responding to the Swedish government’s cries for neighboring states to take some of their refugees, the Danish migration minister, Inger Stojberg, said her country would not be coming to the rescue, and added: “Sweden has had an irresponsible refugee policy for years. They have put themselves in this situation.”

Sweden, a country of 9.6 million, lately has been absorbing 10,000 asylum seekers per week, and expects the total number coming into the country this year alone to reach 190,000 — a population greater than that of its fourth largest city. Since the intensification of the immigration crisis in September, municipalities have complained that they lack housing, teachers and classroom space, and doctors for the newcomers. The police have acknowledged that they’ve lost the ability to monitor the whereabouts of foreign nationals within the country. Migration agencies have signaled that they can no longer ensure that unaccompanied minors passing through their offices will be transferred into acceptable living conditions. And leaked emails have shown that government officials are panicking over how they will pay for associated costs.

Sweden, like Germany and Austria, overestimated its capacity. Casualties of this miscalculation will not only include its domestic welfare institutions, but also — tragically — its global humanitarianism. In an effort to pay for increased immigration, the government is now dipping into its foreign aid budget. Sweden consistently ranks as one of the most generous providers of foreign aid worldwide, supporting efforts to expand educational opportunities, provide access to water, and promote political and economic development in regions producing the bulk of asylum seekers in Europe. But 20 percent of this year’s foreign aid budget has been redirected to domestic migration agencies, and officials have suggested they will take even more out of next year’s budget. Reducing foreign aid in such substantial amounts promises to fuel the same instability and desperation that is causing the migrant crisis. Worse yet, by refocusing its humanitarian effort on individuals healthy enough and wealthy enough to take themselves to its shores, Sweden is shunning those abroad in greatest need.



The government’s slow response to all of this seems baffling. But the seeds of the current debacle were sown earlier, when immigration became an untouchable centerpiece of Sweden’s politics. For the past five years, the nationalist Sweden Democrats party has been the only force opposing the country’s refugee policies. Born in the late 1980s through the fusion of an anti-tax populist party and a neo-Nazi activist group, the Sweden Democrats have grown exponentially since entering Parliament in 2010. Their rise has nonetheless been condemned and hotly contested by a mainstream weary of seeing the country’s reputation for tolerance tarnished. Far from introducing new restrictions to immigration, the Sweden Democrats have caused the political establishment to entrench itself: Any move to restrict immigration is now seen as a concession to paranoid nativism.

Prime Minister Stefan Lofven has called the Sweden Democrats “neo-fascists,” and like all other mainstream party leaders — on the left as well as the right — he has refused to communicate with them. But on the heels of his administration’s about-face on its own immigration policy, his past attacks on the party seem awkward. When members of the Sweden Democrats began criticizing his policy months ago for its blindness to logistical and economic pitfalls, he dismissed them. The party also argued early on that money for humanitarian purposes would be more efficiently and equitably spent through foreign aid than immigration, and he disregarded their argument as a convenient excuse for a xenophobic agenda. He may have been right, but so were they.

And therein lies the problem. The real nightmare for Swedish politics is not that it now includes the kind of continental-style far-right party it once thought itself immune to. It is rather that mainstream forces have surrendered all critical perspectives on immigration to a party with which they can neither collaborate nor bear to see affirmed. Had a transparent and dynamic public discussion been taking place in Sweden during the past months — a discussion that acknowledged both the need for human solidarity and the limitations of the country’s infrastructure — a more sustainable immigration policy might have emerged. Instead, it seems ill-fated policies will not be altered until the country brings itself to the brink of collapse.

Benjamin R. Teitelbaum, who teaches Nordic Studies and International Affairs at the University of Colorado, Boulder, is the author of the forthcoming book “Lions of the North: Sounds of the New Nordic Radical Nationalism.”
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We need an emergency airlift of these signs
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Grand Lesson Of Paris Attacks...
« Reply #526 on: November 15, 2015, 08:14:37 AM »
Raymond Ibrahim: The Grand Lesson of the Paris Jihad

NOVEMBER 15, 2015 1:08 AM BY RAYMOND IBRAHIM

What is the grand, take away lesson from yesterday’s jihadi/terrorist attack in Paris, that left 129 dead and hundreds injured?

Is it a result of the mass influx of Muslim migrants into Europe—including Islamic State operatives?

Is it yet another reflection of Islam’s unwavering Rule of Numbers, which holds that, wherever and whenever Muslims grow in numbers—and they make for a large minority in France—the same acts of “anti-infidel” violence that are endemic to the Islamic world grow with them?

For all who are uninformed, the above are certainly lessons associated with the Paris attack.  But they are not the grand lesson.

The grand lesson is that such attacks must and will continue to multiply in severity.  Why?  Because Western nations, their leaders and media talking heads continue to be shocked and dismayed.  As Judith Berman writes for the Gatestone Institute today:

One of the most surprising aspects of the terrorist attacks in Paris on Friday night is how “deeply shocked” members of the European political establishment appeared to be.

Angela Merkel, David Cameron and the Pope all expressed their condolences — and “deep shock” — at the well-coordinated, citywide terror attacks in six different places across Paris…

Even “NBA players express shock, sympathy over Paris terrorist tragedy.”

What is truly shocking is that so many are still shocked.  When someone is shocked, they are essentially saying they have no idea how a specific event, in this case yesterday’s Paris attack, came to pass.

In turn, this means that all the factors that led up to such terrorist attacks—from an already large Muslim presence further engorged with more Muslim migraters, to an inability to speak honestly about Islam’s supremacist and violent teachings—will continue unabated.

And that means many more such attacks and worse will continue.  Count on it.


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Re: Islam in Europe - Face of a Paris suicide bomber
« Reply #527 on: November 15, 2015, 11:02:17 AM »
It turns out they were evangelical Christians that sneaked in from America's deep south.  Just kidding.

What haven't we learned yet?  We already had the London bombings of 7/7/2005, Madrid train bombings 2004. Charlie Hebdo a few blocks from this one in Paris, not to mention Bali 2002 and 2005, 9/11/2001, and the previous attack on the World Trade Center, the embassies of Kenya and Tanzania 1998, Tunisia June 2015 (did you know that one?), Beslan 2002, Mumbai 2008, Kunming 2014, Pashewar 2014, and the beheading of Daniel Pearl .  Is this really still rocket science?
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3318379/Hunt-Isis-killers-Syrian-passport-body-suicide-bomber-Stade-France.html

Face of a Paris suicide bomber: First picture of ISIS killer as it's revealed two of the Jihadis sneaked into Europe via Greece by posing as refugees and being rescued from a sinking migrant boat - and survivors say one of the attackers was a WOMAN 
Ahmed Almuhamed, 25, believed have been in terror squad at the Bataclan concert hall before blowing himself up
French police revealed his Syrian passport was found on a bomber's body who registered as a refugee in Greece
Ferry tickets from October 3 reveal he travelled to Europe with a Mohammed Almuhamed, who may be a relation
Authorities believe at least two of the terror cell traveled from Syria, through Turkey and into Greece since summer
A second passport, from Egypt, was found on the body of another bomber who took part in the Paris terror attack
Homegrown terrorist Omar Ismaël Mostefai , 29, identified as a gig bomber by fingerprint from severed digit
Seven terrorists killed themselves using suicide belts while another was shot dead by police at the Bataclan gig
Paris attacks have left 129 dead and 352 injured - 99 of which are in a critical condition. 30 of dead not yet identified
See more of the latest news and updates on the ISIS attacks on Paris
By IAN GALLAGHER and MARTIN BECKFORD FOR THE MAIL ON SUNDAY and MARTIN ROBINSON FOR MAILONLINE
PUBLISHED: 07:14 EST, 14 November 2015 | UPDATED: 13:02 EST, 15 November 2015
     
This is the face of one of the Paris killers who allegedly sneaked into France by posing as a refugee after being rescued from a sinking migrant boat as it emerged a woman and three brothers may have been part of the eight-strong ISIS kamikaze terror squad.
Serbian media claims Ahmed Almuhamed, 25, whose Syrian passport was found on the body of a suicide bomber, allegedly blew himself up at the Bataclan concert hall, where at least 89 people were slaughtered on Friday.
The newspaper, Blic, claims Almuhamed arrived with another of the bombers in Europe on the Greek island of Leros on October 3 on his way to Paris. Greek website Protothema have published ferry tickets showing the name of a second man, Mohammed Almuhamed, who could be a relation.
French police are hunting 26-year-old Salah Abdeslam, from Brussels, who is accused of renting a Volkswagen Polo used by the suicide bombers who killed 89 people at the Bataclan music venue on Friday.
His brother Ibrahim is believed to have blown himself up during the Paris siege and a third unnamed sibling has been arrested in the Belgian capital.
An official told the Washington Post another of the shooters was Bilal Hadfi, who was from Belgium and had spent time fighting with ISIS in Syria, who also died after detonating his suicide vest during a murderous rampage.
One of the attackers has been named locally as homegrown terrorist Omar Ismaël Mostefai , 29, from Courcouronnes, Paris. The petty criminal was known to police as a radical and identified by the fingerprint on a severed digit found after he detonated his suicide belt.


Investigators are now investigating claims that he went to Syria last year, and may have spent time training with ISIS terrorists.
Survivors have claimed that a woman was among the group shooting randomly into the crowd at the Eagles of Death Metal gig before three blew themselves up and a fourth person was shot dead by police before they could detonate their bomb.
At least 129 people died and another 99 were injured in Paris on Friday night after eight terrorists, including one as young as 15, attacked the Stade de France, restaurants and the packed Bataclan concert hall armed with AK-47s, grenades and wearing suicide vests.
More than 350 were injured - 99 of which are in a critical condition - and 30 of the dead have not yet been identified.
It is believed two of the bombers were carrying Syrian passports. At least two others are believed to be French while several could also be Belgian.
Prosecutors in Brussels have said two attackers killed in Paris were Frenchmen who lived in the Belgian capital and that two vehicles used in the terror attack were rented in Belgium.
The disclosure that some may have entered Europe as migrants, which came amid claims of French intelligence failures, inevitably raises new security concerns about the safety of Europe's borders.
Meanwhile the black Seat Leon used by the terrorists who murdered diners outside the Casa Nostra pizza restaurant and the La Belle Équipe cafe has been found abandoned 20 minutes away in Montreuil with three AK-47s with five full magazines and 11 empty ones.
Paris prosecutor Francois Molins said on Saturday that gunmen armed with automatic weapons pulled up in that model of car before opening fire, killing 15 people and injuring 10.
On the second day after the worst terror attack in French history it has emerged:
French police are hunting for two gunmen on the run after Friday's attacks and an ISIS bombmaker likely to have made the suicide vests
One is known to be  26-year-old Salah Abdeslam, from Brussels, who is accused of renting a Volkswagen Polo used by the suicide bombers who killed 89 people at the Bataclan music venue
A Seat car used in drive-by shootings at two restaurants was found abandoned containing three AK-47s with five full magazines and 11 empty ones
One of Bataclan suspects was found carrying a Syrian passport under the name Ahmed Almuhamed who travelled to France as a migrant through Greece. Ferry tickets reveal he travelled with another man named as Mohammed Almuhamed.
Frenchman Omar Ismaël Mostefai, 29, also named as a Bataclan suicide bomber who was identified by his severed finger. Mostefai's father, a brother and other family members have been held and are being questioned.
Mostefai said to have been radicalised by a Belgian hate preacher of Moroccan descent said to have regularly preached at his mosque
Bataclan survivors claim that one of the four shooters was a woman
Seven people were detained in Belgium linked to the atrocities - five in Brussels district known as a 'den of terrorists'
Ahmed Almuhamed is believed to have taken around a month to travel to France posing as a migrant. He had entered Serbia at Miratovce, having crossed the frontier from Macedonia. The newspaper reported that Almuhamed, applied for asylum in Serbia in Presevo before crossing into Croatia and Austria.
Paris prosecutors confirmed that the suspects, all wearing explosive vests, roamed across the French capital in three teams, perpetrating the 'worst acts of violence' in the country since the Second World War. Fingerprint records show that two of the terrorists had arrived in the EU as refugees through Greece.
A Syrian passport found near the body of one of the gunmen had passed through the Greek island of Leros on October 3.
On October 5 they used their Syrian passports to travel to the port of Piraeus on Mainland Greece before arriving in Serbia on October 7.
The Syrian passport was registered in October in Serbia and Croatia, two of the countries on the corridor crossing the Balkans. The owner was allowed to proceed because he passed what is essentially the only test in place - he had no international arrest warrant against him.
It is still not yet clear if the Syrian passport is fake or real, or if it belonged to the dead bomber. European officials say there is a brisk trade in fake Syrian passports to help people get refugee status in the EU.
Greece's deputy minister in charge of police, Nikos Toscas, said he was 'identified [as a refugee] according to EU rules' as he passed through the country, but did not know if it was checked elsewhere en route to Paris. In all, 129 people were killed in a series of co-ordinated bomb and gun attacks on Friday night. With 99 of the 352 wounded critically ill, the death toll is expected to rise.
Six of the terrorists, believed to be from Islamic State who appear to have formed their own international terror cell, took their own lives, while one was shot dead by police.
The first Jihadi suicide bomber named in connection with the Paris terrorist attacks that left at least 129 people dead was Is Omar Ismail Mostefai, who was identified by his finger.
The digit was found among the carnage of the Bataclan concert hall, where the 29-year-old was one of three men who blew himself up killing 89 men, women and children.
Born on 21 November 1985, in the Paris suburb of Courcouronnes, Mostefai's criminal record shows eight convictions for petty crimes between 2004 and 2010.
He had never been jailed but Paris prosecutor Francois Molins said Mostefai had been picked out as a high-priority target for radicalisation in 2010 He added that Mostefai had 'never been implicated in an investigation or a terrorist association'.
Police have also detained members of his family for questioning. Mostefai's father, a brother and other family members have been held and are being questioned. 


At least two of the terrorists is believed to have left Syria, travelled through Turkey and registered as a refugee on the Greek island of Leros on October 3 before continuing his journey northwards eventually arriving in Paris.

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Re: Islam in Europe
« Reply #529 on: November 15, 2015, 02:18:06 PM »
The majoriy of people in the world don't have the stomach to do what needs to be done, and since people are busy being politcally correct and behind the curve.... we'll suffer more of this, until they get with the program.

I'm cool with it. People get the world they deserve.

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Re: Islam in Europe
« Reply #530 on: November 15, 2015, 03:33:02 PM »
The majoriy of people in the world don't have the stomach to do what needs to be done, and since people are busy being politcally correct and behind the curve.... we'll suffer more of this, until they get with the program.

I'm cool with it. People get the world they deserve.

Obama gave a speech in Cairo and bowed to every world leader he could find. I was promised a new era of peace and prosperity!

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« Reply #531 on: November 15, 2015, 04:03:48 PM »
The majoriy of people in the world don't have the stomach to do what needs to be done, and since people are busy being politcally correct and behind the curve.... we'll suffer more of this, until they get with the program.

I'm cool with it. People get the world they deserve.

Obama gave a speech in Cairo and bowed to every world leader he could find. I was promised a new era of peace and prosperity!

Obama should have been run off in chains years ago. Unfortunately, his security detail and the stupidity of half the American population are both world leaders in their given arenas.

I think this will all end the way the Bible says it does.

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LA Times: Muslims Fear "Backlash" in France...
« Reply #532 on: November 16, 2015, 04:07:14 AM »
LA Times: Muslims in France fear reprisals after Paris jihad massacre

NOVEMBER 15, 2015 10:27 PM BY ROBERT SPENCER

This is always the mainstream media preoccupation after a jihad attack: portraying Muslims as victims of a generally nonexistent “backlash.” There is always a steady stream of articles like this one after every fresh jihad murder, and never, ever any articles about Muslim communities redoubling their efforts to show themselves to be loyal citizens and rooting out the jihadis.


“French Muslims fear reprisals in wake of Paris terrorist attacks,” by Christina Boyle, Los Angeles Times, November 15, 2015 (thanks to Darcy):

In this heavily Muslim suburb of Paris, there was a nagging fear in the back of many minds on Sunday: Would the latest spasm of violence in the name of Islam bring retaliation against their community?

“Of course we are scared,” said one worshiper at the Evry-Courcouronnes mosque, an ethnically diverse community full of low-rise public housing about 20 miles south of the center of Paris.

“We didn’t choose for this to happen. The people who carried out the murders were not Muslim, they were not fanatics, they were assassins. But not everyone sees that.”

Maybe that’s because it’s so hard to see when the assassins explain themselves in terms that are so very Muslim.

In the wake of Friday’s terrorism strikes in Paris, some residents of this suburb – built in the 1970s to offer a cheaper, more spacious alternative to city living, but now mostly home to poorer immigrants – faced the possibility that some might view them as the enemy.

Already, French officials have warned of the possibility of cracking down on mosques deemed as harboring Muslim radicals.

The French interior minister, Bernard Cazeneuve, said Sunday that the state of emergency declared Friday gives the government the means to act more quickly against those “who preach hatred in France,” including through expulsions and the “dissolution” of radical mosques.

“I didn’t wait for the state of emergency to track down radical imams who preach hatred and to address places of worship where they preach that hatred,” Cazeneuve said in an interview with France 2 TV. He said the expansion of government powers will allow the authorities to be “much quicker in the expression of the republic’s resolve … in the face of terrorism.”

No public mention has been made of targeting mosques in Courcouronnes, but that hasn’t stopped residents here from worrying about the general atmosphere across Europe.

It didn’t help that far-right National Front leader Marine Le Pen quickly called on fellow citizens to “annihilate Islamist fundamentalism” and to “take back control” of their borders….

Muslims in France are upset about this? Yet we’re constantly told that the Muslims in the West are moderates who abhor “Islamist fundamentalism.” So why would they not want it annihilated?
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Re: Islam in Europe
« Reply #533 on: November 16, 2015, 05:16:34 AM »
LA Times= POTB= Pravda On The Beach

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Re: Muslim security guard saved stadium from bomb
« Reply #535 on: November 16, 2015, 06:37:04 AM »

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Re: No go zones
« Reply #536 on: November 16, 2015, 07:02:20 AM »
http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/tom-blumer/2015/11/15/two-paris-terrorists-lived-supposedly-mythical-belgian-no-go-zone



http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/01/30/mark-steyn-on-europes-no-go-zones/

The left loves to deny real problems while creating imaginary ones.

Thank you GM and Mark Steyn (famous people caught reading the forum):

But we’re supposed to believe they’re not real, because they don’t have big “KEEP OUT OR DIE, INFIDEL!” billboards denoting their perimeter, and they’re not labeled “Muslim No-Go Zone #23″ on the official maps of major European cities...

Yet.  They don't mark the perimeter because they are actively expanding it.

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Syrian Passport a fake
« Reply #537 on: November 16, 2015, 11:35:17 AM »
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Updated Nov. 16, 2015 2:07 p.m. ET
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ATHENS—Mystery deepened over a Paris attacker who traveled to Europe via Greece and the Balkans, after French officials said Monday that the Syrian passport he had used was indeed a fake.

Authorities in France and Greece have said that fingerprints taken from the remains of a suicide bomber outside France’s national sports stadium, the Stade de France, match the prints of a man who entered Europe via the Aegean island of Leros on Oct. 3.

Police on Leros registered the man under the identity in the passport he showed them: Ahmad AlMohammad, 25, from Syria. The same passport was found near the man’s body outside the stadium on Friday night.

Whoever the man was, he posed as one of the many refugees fleeing Syria’s war—including the violence of Islamic State—to enter Europe through its lightly controlled frontier in the Aegean Sea.


Greek authorities on islands such as Leros, Lesbos and Chios have confronted thousands of arrivals every day in recent months as refugees and other migrants make the short sea crossing from Turkey in inflatable boats. Short of staff and equipment, Greek police carry out only a simple procedure that involves taking people’s data and fingerprints, and sometimes asking them a few questions, before giving them permission to travel onward, deeper into Europe.

Upon his arrival in Leros, the Paris assailant was checked against police databases under his Syrian identity, Greek officials say. Nothing was found. Police on Leros didn’t spot that the passport was fake. A black market in Syrian passports has sprung up in Turkey as migrants try to gain the easiest possible entry into Europe, which has treated Syrian war refugees as more deserving of shelter in European Union countries than many other nationalities.

Greek authorities say the man using the name Ahmad AlMohammad took a ferry to the port of Piraeus, arriving on Oct. 8, before traveling north through the Balkans. Greece’s migration ministry said on Sunday that the man later reached Croatia. But after that, the trail appears to go cold. Officials in Austria, Germany, Italy and Hungary say they have no information about any man using that name entering their territory.

Adding further confusion, Serbia’s government has said a man by the same name entered its territory at the Presevo border crossing with Macedonia on Oct. 7—a date when Greek authorities say he was on a ferry.

Neither country’s authorities could explain the inconsistency. But Serbian media reported that another man carrying a passport with the same name and other details was arrested in the country on Saturday. Serbian authorities haven’t confirmed or denied those reports, which raised the possibility that multiple forged Syrian passports using the same name have been circulating.

All that is clear is that the man who landed in Greece got as far as Paris.

—Valentina Pop and Inti Landauro contributed to this article.

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Why Paris is doomed
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Re: Lennon's "Imagine"...
« Reply #539 on: November 16, 2015, 04:29:00 PM »
Fox News' "Special Report with Bret Baier" actually featured this obscenity as its final clip of the show.  As if this were some great display of courage and compassion.
Lennon's song has always sickened me - paean to communism that it is.  Infantile and pretentious at the same time.  The French should have run this guy out of there with pitchforks.
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Re: Islam in Europe
« Reply #540 on: November 16, 2015, 06:20:02 PM »
I caught that too , , ,   :-P

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There is this too
« Reply #541 on: November 16, 2015, 07:59:15 PM »

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« Reply #542 on: November 16, 2015, 08:07:44 PM »
https://www.facebook.com/inthenowrt/videos/545378905612483/

I captured a rattlesnake once.... named it "Bubba." Kept it as a pet. Almost killed me three times. It didn't end well.

Don't keep rattlesnakes in your house.

The video is emotional porn. Nice music though.

Bonus thought...he could be lying to enable more Jihad... they do that. It is expressly permitted.

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Re: There is this too
« Reply #543 on: November 17, 2015, 02:31:41 AM »
https://www.facebook.com/inthenowrt/videos/545378905612483/

Awwww

Should have  choked him the fcuk out and shipped him back to dar al islam

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« Reply #544 on: November 17, 2015, 06:36:33 AM »
https://www.facebook.com/inthenowrt/videos/545378905612483/

Awwww

Should have  choked him the fcuk out and shipped him back to dar al islam

Great way to start the day (reading that)...

Side note.... GM, myself and others are not alone in that sentiment....why on earth would members of Islam want to live amongst people like us, knwoing that we feel the way we do....if it were not for the reason to overcome that same society, because it's pretty clear (speaking for myself), I have ZERO wish to live amongst them....zero. If they come.... it is not to assimilate.

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Re: Islam in Europe, No-Go Zones
« Reply #545 on: November 19, 2015, 09:36:28 AM »
Islam in Europe, Middle East War and US Immigration Issues are now all one and the same.

One point of not taking people who will not assimilate into our society is that we end up with no-go zones, for police and for others, and these zones become safe haven for people like the planners of the Paris attacks.  

In the last year or so there was denial of such a thing as no-go zones in Europe.  Denial didn't make them go away and wasn't persuasive to me since I walked into one by accident, met the enforcers, and got my head stitched up in a Dutch hospital.  I've posted since 2009 about Malmo, Sweden:
http://dogbrothers.com/phpBB2/index.php?topic=58.msg26601#msg26601
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zb1q7KzJBbE

In 2006, WSJ wrote about the "commune of Molenbeek" within Brussels:
http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB115620653882441697?cb=logged0.9548784010112286

Politico: http://www.politico.eu/article/attack-on-paris-molenbeek-dirty-dozen/
The current mayor of Molenbeek hasn’t been able to turn the district around in her three years in office, acknowledging this week that it is “a breeding ground for violence,” ... [admits] that 30 young residents have left the area to train as jihadis in Syria, and that others continue to take refuge in Molenbeek.

9 years later, no-go zones are back in the news.  We should have learned and stopped much of this then.
Paris attacks: Is Molenbeek a haven for Belgian jihadis?
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34839403
http://www.lefigaro.fr/flash-actu/2015/11/17/97001-20151117FILWWW00360-aubervilliers-une-mosquee-perquisitionnee.php
The police finally had to go in.
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Muslim "Hero" in Paris Bombings a Myth...
« Reply #548 on: November 21, 2015, 06:45:55 AM »
As I suspected all along - now we get the real story regarding Crafty's earlier posts about this Muslim security guard.  But hey!  Why should the establishment media correct their story? It's useful to advance their narrative - even if it is a lie.  Correcting it will only invite "backlash against Muslims.":


The Muslim Security Guard Who Saved Paris and Other Progressive Myths


by JAMES DELINGPOLE18 Nov 2015  for Breitbart News.

Did you hear about the Muslim security guard called Zouheir at the Stade de France in Paris who, like, singlehandedly foiled what would have been the worst terrorist incident of Friday night?

Of course you did!

Perhaps you even felt as strongly as the Tweeter below did that it was so important the story deserved to go viral. As indeed it duly did. Among those who eagerly repeated it was that much-loved disseminator of truth, Piers Morgan, in a Mail on Sunday piece which since mysteriously appears to have been taken down.

Why did it go viral? Because, as we know, quite the most important thing after any new terrorist atrocity committed by the Religion of Peace is for all right thinking people — renowned anti-gun campaigner and human rights crusader Piers Morgan, for example — to demonstrate how totally and utterly “nothing to do with Islam” they know the incident to have been.

Hence, for example, the #illridewithyou hashtag which emerged in 2014 when a deranged Islamist murdered two hostages in a Sydney cafe. Never mind the dead (cafe manager Tori Johnson and barrister and mother of three Katrina Dawson): the real victims of the incident, as all sensitive people understood, were all those Muslims in Australia who might now feel they were being given funny looks and somehow held responsible for this inexplicable act by one of their co-religionists which, of course, had “nothing to do with Islam”­™.

So an enterprising girl called Tessa Kum hit on the bright idea of turning it into a heartwarming internet meme about how someone had spotted a girl in a hijab looking uncomfortable and got-at on a train and had cheerfully volunteered, “I’ll ride with you.”

Everyone loved this story — especially the Guardian, obviously — because it showed a) how totally delightful, shy but quietly appreciative, and totally unthreatening most Muslims are and b) how incredibly sensitive, non-judgemental, caring, tolerant, non-racist, enlightened and un-Islamophobic all the people who retweeted the hashtag were. (Plus, you never know, if there were any Islamists going through people’s Twitter feeds and deciding who to kill next, then maybe this hashtag might act as a kind of defence against the dark arts spell. Not that they were thinking about that when they did it. Well, only a bit…)

The only problem with this too-good-to-be-true story is that it wasn’t actually true. Not only was the inspiring incident either exaggerated or made up, but worse, the woman who made it go viral — that’s Tessa Kum — turned out to be the author of several mildly unhinged, anti-white, racist blog posts.

Still, it didn’t diminish the public’s appetite for delightful stories about white people interacting with Muslims on public transport. Here’s another one which was on Buzzfeed just last month. This time the hero was a man called Dante who spotted a woman wearing a niqab on a train. He sat next to her. So pleased was he with his own reckless decency and courage that he then posted a story about his magnificence on his Facebook page, urging people not to be “judgemental.” They weren’t. They loved it so much that this story too went viral.

It makes you wonder, given the massive appetite for this sort of thing, whether Buzzfeed oughtn’t to open a new vertical consisting entirely of stories like this. Perhaps it called be called “Religion of Peace, Fun and Friendship.” Possibly, it could be run by the Telegraph’s Radhika Sanghani.

But enough great new vertical ideas, already. We must return to that heartwarming tale of the Muslim security guard who allegedly foiled the plot to blow up the Stade de Paris. This, it turns out, wasn’t true either…

…as the French newspaper Liberation was the first to reveal in this investigative piece.

“Every tragedy needs its heroes…” it begins. Then it goes on to explain how the story appears to have begun with a perfectly accurate story in the Wall Street Journal, which quoted a guy called Zouheir describing how another security guard had foiled the plot of a terrorist to blow himself up on the terraces in front of the France/Germany match. This then mutated into a series of stories and tweets about how it was Zouheir himself who had saved the day. Which he didn’t. (And which, even if he had, he’d probably wish to keep very quiet right now, what with the need to avoid possible retribution from fellow adherents to his peace loving religion).

“Every tragedy needs its heroes…” Yeah, sure, but do you realise how tough it is on these occasions to find ones that fit the right religious profile?
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Re: Islam in Europe
« Reply #549 on: November 21, 2015, 08:03:44 AM »
So what did happen with the Zouheir story-- from this piece it is not clear to me.

And does it not remain that a Muslim heroically helped the jews at the deli in the Charlie Hebdo attack and another one was pivotal in shooting some of the attackers (or something like that)?