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Re: Race, religion, ethnic origin, Which Lives Matter?
« Reply #650 on: July 13, 2016, 06:51:43 AM »
Can we say red, white and blue lives matter?  Still racist. 

How about if we say, black, red, white and blue lives matter?

To say 'All Lives Matter' is to not appreciate that No One in America alive today was ever a slave or counted as 3/5th of a person.

My sister liked this one, 'black olives matter'.

I hate to ask, but what about the unborn?  Do Black Lives Matter for the most innocent among us?

If you are an unborn 'little one' growing, thriving and developing in a black woman's womb, you are 4 times (5 times?) more likely than a white baby to be stabbed in the head with the 'doctor's' scissors, or whatever it is they do now, in celebration of 'liberal' America's 'pro-choice' 'freedom'.
http://www.abortionfacts.com/literature/partial-birth-abortion
http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/09/abortions-racial-gap/380251/

Do Black Lives really Matter or is just fun to throw rocks at police?
http://www.kare11.com/news/102-arrested-21-officers-injured-in-94-shutdown/268434384
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/07/videost-paul-police-injured-attacks-black-lives-matter-protesters-rocks-rebar-bottles-fireworks/

Meanwhile, I wonder how the effort is going to recruit sharp young black men and women to take up law enforcement careers in troubled, inner city communities.  Has our transformative President spoken to that need yet?

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Re: Race, black families, intact or broken, Larry Elder
« Reply #651 on: July 13, 2016, 07:08:52 AM »
Liberal unintended consequences are of no matter to liberals.

The black family was more intact under slavery than under the war on poverty.

This is not a statement that anything good happened under slavery.  It is an indictment of our current policies.
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Re: Race, religion, ethnic origin, Which Lives Matter?
« Reply #652 on: July 13, 2016, 08:34:42 AM »
Can we say red, white and blue lives matter?  Still racist. 

How about if we say, black, red, white and blue lives matter?

To say 'All Lives Matter' is to not appreciate that No One in America alive today was ever a slave or counted as 3/5th of a person.

My sister liked this one, 'black olives matter'.

I hate to ask, but what about the unborn?  Do Black Lives Matter for the most innocent among us?

If you are an unborn 'little one' growing, thriving and developing in a black woman's womb, you are 4 times (5 times?) more likely than a white baby to be stabbed in the head with the 'doctor's' scissors, or whatever it is they do now, in celebration of 'liberal' America's 'pro-choice' 'freedom'.
http://www.abortionfacts.com/literature/partial-birth-abortion
http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/09/abortions-racial-gap/380251/

Do Black Lives really Matter or is just fun to throw rocks at police?
http://www.kare11.com/news/102-arrested-21-officers-injured-in-94-shutdown/268434384
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/07/videost-paul-police-injured-attacks-black-lives-matter-protesters-rocks-rebar-bottles-fireworks/

Meanwhile, I wonder how the effort is going to recruit sharp young black men and women to take up law enforcement careers in troubled, inner city communities.  Has our transformative President spoken to that need yet?

There is a serious problem finding anyone that wants to be a law enforcement officer now. It's only going to get worse.

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BLM *demands*
« Reply #655 on: August 01, 2016, 12:22:15 PM »
A far LEFT agenda for socialism  .  I don't know what gender and sexual orientation has to do with BLM; or for that matter "fossil fuels",  or decriminalize drugs and prostitution.  Or "corporate exploitation, or APACs .   Who wrote this up?  Soros?

https://policy.m4bl.org/

My response  - I don't think so.



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From American Spectator
« Reply #658 on: August 11, 2016, 09:51:32 AM »

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I guess this could go under the media thread
« Reply #659 on: August 14, 2016, 09:41:34 AM »
Notice there is no mention of the violence being done by Blacks till near the end of article.  Predominantly "African American"  is the politically correct description used.  So why is not "African American lives matter?".

Again the guy shot has a long rap sheet and had gun.  If I were a police officer I would just get out of the inner city and not bother.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/violent-protests-erupt-in-milwaukee-after-police-kill-suspect-at-traffic-stop_us_57b054d9e4b071840411b466?section=&

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Jimi on Milwaukee
« Reply #660 on: August 15, 2016, 01:14:29 PM »
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Re: Jimi on Milwaukee
« Reply #661 on: August 15, 2016, 06:31:39 PM »

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Am I the only one who doesn't quite get it?
« Reply #664 on: August 19, 2016, 12:27:50 PM »
This morning I heard on cable a black pundit make essentially the argument that Trump offers blacks nothing and why would any black support him.

the host said that Trump did go to Milwaukee and address people there but the pundit said he did not address backs specifically.

My question  to the pundit is, "what exactly would or should Trump say to a group of blacks that would get them to think they should vote for him?"

Free all blacks from jail?  Obviously the undertone is always about reparations.  Offers of spending more on housing on education on child care?

Blacks want a conversation but exactly what is it they expect?

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Race, ethnic origin, attributes, Why does Michelle Obama wear "relaxed hair'.
« Reply #665 on: August 21, 2016, 04:43:30 PM »
Apologies in advance for trivial subject matter.   I am curious, not being critical.

People say Michelle Obama looked GREAT for her speech at the DNC.  She was sweet (mostly), vibrant, persuasive, hit all the right notes for her side and endorsed the nominee.  She's over 50 and has been taking care of herself.  Good for her.  Now to the point...

Her hairstyle was designed to be noticed with the side-front falling into her eye.  Not something I like but either trendy, ahead of the trend or poll tested.   By some cost and effort, she has altered or straightened her hair, proud of skin color and heritage but not other racial, ethnic attributes?  This is something she has done that throughout his Presidency according to reports.  Why?

http://grandmotherafrica.com/why-does-michelle-obama-wear-relaxed-hair/

When a black conservative does anything considered 'white', like being conservative, they are slammed.  I'm not surprised by the double standard, just pointing it out as time permits.

Am I wrong on this?

She is the authentic one of the Obamas as far as being an American black, descendant of slaves.  Also, she is the most popular leftist in the country at the moment.  This makes no sense given the persistent abuses of taxpayer funds for personal pleasure, also taking the fun out of school lunch.  Speaks her mind but never gets challenged [on policy and results].

I oppose her on policy, not hairstyle.



Michelle Robinson at Princeton:

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Indian Americans
« Reply #667 on: August 22, 2016, 07:31:42 AM »
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/439202/indian-americans-democrats-republicans-immigration-minorities-congressional-elections

This is one group that Trump has driven away from the Republican party even more.  We want them on our side.
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The insanity of this speaks for itself
« Reply #668 on: September 22, 2016, 05:08:06 AM »
I don't really know what thread to post this under but this seems as good as any:

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/09/21/school-allows-boy-run-homecoming-queen-first-rejecting-request/

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Re: The insanity of this speaks for itself
« Reply #669 on: September 23, 2016, 08:25:45 AM »
I don't really know what thread to post this under but this seems as good as any:

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/09/21/school-allows-boy-run-homecoming-queen-first-rejecting-request/

Prompted no doubt, by a threatened lawsuit from the ACLU (also preventing students from being suspended for kneeling during anthems):

"ACLU Director Marjorie Esman said the organization had received two complaints in 24 hours."

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/a0d5d0e3b5454e66af7bdfa694cded7b/aclu-students-have-right-sit-during-pledge-allegiance

There is not a day that goes by, in which I do not feel as though my country isn't under attack from within.

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OMG!
« Reply #670 on: September 26, 2016, 01:20:09 PM »
Voter registration drive at a movie about an event that occurred 180 years ago.  Talk about insulting play on emotions. 

Perhaps we should have voter registration for Trump at playing of Schindler's list movies:

http://www.ew.com/article/2016/09/26/birth-nation-fox-searchlight-voter-registration

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Hillary's resurrects comparable worth
« Reply #671 on: September 30, 2016, 01:04:14 PM »
https://patriotpost.us/articles/45128

If I have it right, this piece fails to connect all the dots clearly.  When Hillary spoke of "equal pay for women's work" in the debate she was NOT speaking of equal pay between a man and a woman doing the same job, she was calling for equal pay between women dominated fields and male dominated fields a.k.a. "comparable worth"-- a truly pernicious, fascist, and Orwellian concept.



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« Reply #675 on: November 22, 2016, 04:47:58 AM »
From above post:

"In recent years, the city has fined restaurants for advertising for “busboys” and “waitresses” instead of “bus help” and “wait staff.” In this case, a source told CBS2’s Aiello the commission would likely work with the “Hamilton” production team to help it comply with city law if it takes issue with the ad."

NYC is such a love fest of diversity.  This is just so beautiful   :roll:

Of course the exception is a cast call for anyone who is NOT WHITE.
Unless someone complains there is no problem.  No fine etc.

I would like to see a movie in the future about Donald Trump with a non white cast.
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Re: Race, religion, ethnic origin, LGBT, "discrimination", & discrimination.
« Reply #678 on: November 27, 2016, 03:34:25 PM »
So here is this guy's father , a KKK "wizard" and leader in the nazi party.  The old man is clearly a monster as was the kid before he woke up.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Black_(white_nationalist)

I resent the idea that Trump has anything to do with nazis or KKK, etc.

You want to get on front page of Times and start your article "I was a Republican before I learned to love etc......"  and "see the error of my ways......."


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Re: Race, religion, ethnic origin, LGBT, "discrimination", & discrimination.
« Reply #679 on: November 27, 2016, 04:05:59 PM »
So here is this guy's father , a KKK "wizard" and leader in the nazi party.  The old man is clearly a monster as was the kid before he woke up.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Black_(white_nationalist)

I resent the idea that Trump has anything to do with nazis or KKK, etc.

You want to get on front page of Times and start your article "I was a Republican before I learned to love etc......"  and "see the error of my ways......."



Good thing the left isn't racist!



https://heatst.com/culture-wars/lena-dunham-wants-to-improve-men-by-making-white-straight-men-extinct/

http://townhall.com/columnists/dennisprager/2016/04/26/why-the-left-loathes-western-civilization-n2153625

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Re: Race, religion, ethnic origin, LGBT, "discrimination", & discrimination.
« Reply #680 on: November 30, 2016, 04:20:26 PM »
As someone that has experienced a healthy amount of racism (and continue to do so), I'm going to say, people that are racist have every right to their legitimate view (and it is), whather others like it or not, because that goes hand in hand with freedom.

The fact that only some racists are ostracized is racism in and of itself, and ostracizing someone else, simply because you don't agree with them, isn't freedom.

I'm not saying I don't ostracize people. I do.... I ostracize anyone on the Left and think they should at a minimum, be forced into exile. Nothing to do with their color.

I'll add, if I didn't feel like appreciating someone for their color, that would also be my right, in MY country, and anyone opposed can go to hell. I'm in my country. I don't need your approval.

Now apply that to anyone in THEIR country, and we get the basis of individual and cultural values that may not agree with someone else, BUT those people are in their county and entitled to rule it, with ideas that others may find ignorant.

People leave that portion of the discussion out all of the time because it isn't politically correct and because it's a fact.

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What????
« Reply #681 on: December 10, 2016, 02:05:03 PM »
Does this imply that a person who is gay, etc cannot dial 911 from any where else in the country?

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/pulse-orlando-nightclub-shooting/os-opd-safe-place-20161209-story.html

I wish someone would allow me a safe space from the progressives.


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I don't want the Republican party to be associated with this
« Reply #683 on: December 30, 2016, 05:09:16 AM »
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-ally-asked-resign-school-board-over-insults-163135483.html

Blatant racial comments makes any of us who call ourselves Republicans look bad through indirect association.
How can the party expect to attract minorities if they sit back and do nothing about this guy?

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Re: Race, religion, ethnic origin, LGBT, "discrimination", & discrimination.
« Reply #684 on: January 02, 2017, 09:37:43 PM »
Indeed!

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LGBTQIAGNC
« Reply #686 on: January 04, 2017, 07:45:16 PM »
LGBTQIAGNC stands for ‘Lesbian, gay, bisexual, trans, queer, intersex, asexual and gender-non-conforming’.

Let's get up to speed on this.    )

Whatever became of private staying private?  Now it's got to be a billboard and a parade.

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2017/01/the-trans-train-trolls-on.php

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Re: LGBTQIAGNC
« Reply #687 on: January 04, 2017, 08:28:48 PM »
LGBTQIAGNC stands for ‘Lesbian, gay, bisexual, trans, queer, intersex, asexual and gender-non-conforming’.

Let's get up to speed on this.    )

Whatever became of private staying private?  Now it's got to be a billboard and a parade.

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2017/01/the-trans-train-trolls-on.php

I though LBTQWTFBBQ was the best version.



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« Reply #690 on: February 26, 2017, 07:45:31 AM »
Doping in sports is now ok, if you're "transitioning" from one gender to the other. It may well be the first time a girl has had an undeafeted run all the way to the state title.

http://vesselnews.io/transgender-boy-wins-girls-state-wrestling-crown/


Dancing Dog and I grew up wrestling in Iowa (where to this day, it remains the national sport and is revered), there is no way I would wrestle this person... because if you lose, you lose...and if you win, you won against a girl. I wouldn't do it.
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Doping in sports is now ok, if you're "transitioning" from one gender to the other. It may well be the first time a girl has had an undeafeted run all the way to the state title.

http://vesselnews.io/transgender-boy-wins-girls-state-wrestling-crown/


Dancing Dog and I grew up wrestling in Iowa (where to this day, it remains the national sport and is revered), there is no way I would wrestle this person... because if you lose, you lose...and if you win, you won against a girl. I wouldn't do it.


By the current LBGTQWTF rules, if you wake up one morning and decide you are female, then you are, no makeup, dresses or surgery required. So, unaltered males that declare themselves female are now free to dominate women's sports. Oh, and enjoy the view of the locker room. Any female that protests gets shamed for her vile bigotry.

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Doping in sports is now ok, if you're "transitioning" from one gender to the other. It may well be the first time a girl has had an undeafeted run all the way to the state title.

http://vesselnews.io/transgender-boy-wins-girls-state-wrestling-crown/


Dancing Dog and I grew up wrestling in Iowa (where to this day, it remains the national sport and is revered), there is no way I would wrestle this person... because if you lose, you lose...and if you win, you won against a girl. I wouldn't do it.


By the current LBGTQWTF rules, if you wake up one morning and decide you are female, then you are, no makeup, dresses or surgery required. So, unaltered males that declare themselves female are now free to dominate women's sports. Oh, and enjoy the view of the locker room. Any female that protests gets shamed for her vile bigotry.


As usual, you're correct. I wonder how that would work in terms of grants and loans specifically for women? I wonder if any men have gamed that angle yet.

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Male or Female? Yes , , ,
« Reply #693 on: February 26, 2017, 01:10:09 PM »
This has been put in front of me , , ,

http://www.nature.com/news/sex-redefined-1.16943

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WaPo: KKK sign in Georgia
« Reply #694 on: March 13, 2017, 12:19:24 PM »

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/in-northern-georgia-a-kkk-banner-seemed-to-some-a-sign-of-the-times/2017/03/12/de5a3518-05bd-11e7-b9fa-ed727b644a0b_story.html?utm_term=.8091fcfe07a4&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1

In Georgia, reaction to KKK banner is a sign of the times
By Stephanie McCrummen March 12 at 6:15 PM

City officials take down a KKK sign from a vacant building downtown in Dahlonega, Ga., on Feb. 16. Residents said the banner left them both surprised and scared. (Matt Aiken/The Dahlonega Nugget)

DAHLONEGA, Ga. — The mayor was still home when his phone started ringing. The reverend was still down with the flu when he began getting one message after another. Valerie Fambrough had just dropped off her daughters at day care when she heard.

“Have you seen the sign in the square?” a parent asked her on a cold morning three weeks ago. “There’s a Ku Klux Klan sign in the town square.”

And, in fact, there was. Just past the old brick courthouse and across the street from candy stores and antique shops, a large rectangular banner was screwed tight into the cracked wood siding of a long-vacant building on East Main Street. “Historic Ku Klux Klan Meeting Hall,” it said.

It had a cartoonish drawing of a white-sheeted person raising a hand. In addition, there was a Confederate battle flag at one corner of the building and a red flag with a white cross and the letters KKK at the other. They were fluttering in the wind blowing across Dahlonega, and what happened next would become one more pocket of America dealing with a disturbing incident at a time when hate crimes have been on the rise and new brands of white nationalism have been making a comeback across the country.

In Upstate New York, the home of a Jewish man was spray-painted with swastikas. In Virginia, fliers were distributed in several neighborhoods with the words, “Make America WHITE again-and greatness will follow.” In Colorado, two typewritten notes that read “WERE GONNA BLOW UP ALL OF YOU REFUGEES,” were left at a community center serving mainly Muslim immigrants. Now whatever was happening in other parts of the country seemed to have arrived in Dahlonega.

The mayor got dressed and headed for the square. The reverend called the sheriff. Fambrough recalled how she hurried over to see for herself, saying “No, no, not here,” the whole way, and “Hell, no,” until she was there, alone, staring at the banner.


She was a white 37-year-old mother of two, a program specialist in the biology department at the University of North Georgia who called Dahlonega a “sweet, loving town” and had never protested anything in her life. Now she felt her anger rising. She remembered the flip-chart paper in her trunk left over from a presentation a month before and made two signs — “Not in my town,” she wrote, and “Love Lives Here” — then got out and stood in her sandals holding them.

She was freezing. The square was still quiet, with all the shops closed. She scanned the windows across the street to see if someone was watching. She planned which way she would run if something happened. Cars passed, and she scrutinized each face.

A woman shook her head and kept going.

A man gave her a thumbs-up.

A woman called out of her window, “Did you put that sign up?” and Fambrough said “No, no!” and then Bridget Kahn parked, got out, and now there were the two of them.

A woman in a red minivan stopped and yelled “Y’all are angry! You’re angry, angry people!” and drove off.

A black pickup truck parked across the street, and a muscular man got out, and a reporter from the local paper who’d just arrived told the women it was Chester Doles, a former leader in the Klan and a white-separatist group called the National Alliance who had gone to prison on federal weapons charges. He lived just outside town and was currently a personal trainer who also worked promoting “hate rock” concerts around the country. He pulled out a cellphone and began taking photographs. He said something to the women, but they couldn’t hear.

“What’s that, sir?” Kahn called out, and the women heard him say something about how “glorious” it was to see such a sign in the light of day, and then he drove off, even as more people were arriving — white-haired locals, college students and others who said they were appalled; a Native American man who brought a ladder and tried to rip the banner down; a white man who argued the KKK banner and flag should come down but not the Confederate battle flag; a young black man who stood there crying.

Here came the mayor and the sheriff trying to figure out what was going on.

Here came two pickup trucks circling the square, revving their engines. The woman in the red minivan returned, honking her horn and seeming to veer too close to the protesters.

A school bus passed, and now Fambrough was crying as the town dispatched a cherry picker to the scene, and workers began ratcheting out the first of 21 screws holding the banner in place.

Another truck arrived, this one belonging to a local roofing company and plastered with Confederate logos, and several workers climbed on the roof and began removing the flags.

And that was how the banner came down, and the flags came down, and all the rest began.

***

All over town that first day, people kept saying this was not the Dahlonega they knew.

“Our little pocket of loveliness” is how one resident described the former gold mining town an hour north of Atlanta, known for its redbrick square lined with antique shops and wine tasting rooms. It was the seat of Lumpkin County, which did not have the reputation for racial violence that many other north Georgia counties did, though no one disputed that there were probably Klan members scattered around. It was overwhelmingly white and Republican, though Dahlonega itself was home to a small, deeply rooted, black population, and had in recent years attracted a more liberal crowd who considered themselves part of the progressive South.

Now, though, all anyone could talk about was what happened in the town square.

Even before the last screw came out of the banner, photos of it were appearing all over social media with captions like “WTF, Dahlonega?” and people began speculating about who did it.

Maybe it was a college prank. Maybe it was an outsider. Maybe it really was the Klan, a relic coming back to life. In an area that voted heavily for Donald Trump, speculation began that the whole thing was the work of anti-Trump activists, and when she got home, Fambrough went online and saw that people were accusing her of putting up the banner, saying she was part of the “alt-left.”

By evening, though, people had found out who was really responsible: It was one of their own, an 84-year-old white woman named Roberta Green-Garrett, the owner of the building in question who lives in a brick mansion with four white columns on a hill overlooking the town.

Offering no explanation and declining to speak with reporters, she had told town officials that she had allowed the banner to go up and might try to put it up again. She had been seeking permission to build a hotel on the square, and people speculated that it was all an audacious ploy to embarrass the town into approving her plans.

“An isolated case of Mrs. Green,” is how the mayor, Gary McCullough, described it, saying that there was no evidence the building was ever used by the Klan and that he hoped people would move on.

For many people, though, it was too late for that. The point wasn’t who did it. The point was that it had happened, and whatever it had unleashed was taking on a life of its own.

As day two began, a local Unitarian church was organizing a “unity march” for later that afternoon.

Fambrough heard and began calling her friends. “It’s about showing people that they have nothing to be afraid of in our town!” she told them.

More calls were made, including one to the minister, John Webb, a former town council member who is black, who had heard by then who had done it, which didn’t make it less worrying to him. He said he had noticed more pickup trucks roaring around during the presidential campaign, Confederate battle flags flying — “Guys I know,” he said, “saying ‘the South will rise again’ and all that stuff” — and that regardless of why the banner went up, “It’s very possible it could boomerang into something bigger than it is.”

He was 72, a veteran of the civil rights struggle still sick from the flu, but he was going, and he called others to go, too, and as word spread about the coming demonstration, so did a parallel set of rumors.

The KKK was coming. The neo-Nazis were coming. Black Lives Matter was coming. Fambrough heard that a so-called antifascist group from Atlanta was coming and began feeling sick imagining windows being smashed and businesses being torched. The sheriff called for backup and readied a plan in case a riot or something worse was about to happen in Dahlonega.

In the late afternoon, people began rallying around the square, waving signs.

“Not OKKK America,” one said. “Dahlonega Loves Y’all,” read another, and “Really, Roberta?”

Protesters rally Feb. 17 in Dahlonega, Ga., after a KKK sign was displayed on a vacant building downtown. (Matt Aiken/The Dahlonega Nugget)

People honked horns in support. A local fiddler came. A member of the folk-rock duo Indigo Girls came and everybody sang “This Land Is Your Land.”

Soon, several pickup trucks arrived, revving their engines and circling the square, with Confederate battle flags and Make America Great Again flags flying. When a protester started yelling at one of them, Fambrough yelled at the protester, “Don’t make assumptions!”

By the third day, events began taking another turn.

“More s--- stirrers!” someone posted online about the protesters. “You all are the ones that are going to ruin that town and jobs will be lost!!! Good job, morons!!”

“All crybabies jump on board!” wrote someone else.

“Let it go,” a woman posted.

But people were not letting it go.

“It’s like a certain political climate has opened up,” said Paul Dunlap, a professor at the university, sitting at the end of the fifth day around a fire with friends at Shenanigans pub on the square. An openly gay man, he said he had never experienced any kind of bigotry in his two decades in Dahlonega.

“I think it’s a good idea not to be naive,” said Deb Rowe, the pub’s owner, and now they started talking about Chester Doles, who sometimes came in for a beer at the bar. Someone had noticed that on the building where the banner had been, inside a locked glass case near the door, there was a flier for Doles’s personal training services, showing him oiled up and smiling in full bodybuilder pose.

“Is this indicative of something bigger?” said Dunlap. “Like, do they think they have a voice?”

“I think Roberta’s using the national polarization against us all,” said Jeremy Sharp, a white student at the university who was organizing a boycott of her businesses, which included two buildings she rented out to antique dealers, several hundred units of student housing, and a Holiday Inn Express.

“A peaceable revolution,” Sharp said at a news conference on the sixth day as residents crowded into a small room at the university to hear.

“A few days ago, we had an obtuse sign put up,” he began. “When I walked out and saw that, it scared me. It scared me as a Catholic. It scared me as a person who has friends who look different than me. We are here because we are afraid.”

People clapped and cheered as Sharp began explaining a plan to withhold rent from Green-Garrett and barrage Holiday Inn’s corporate offices with phone calls, which would lead the hotel chain’s parent company, IHG, to issue a statement saying that they had “expressed our concerns” to Green-Garrett and that “This is not the type of activity that we want any of our brands associated with.” As Sharp kept talking, two Dahlonega council members arrived, explaining that they were only there to get “the public sentiment.”

“So, no comment?” a young woman yelled at them.

“The only comment I’ll make is that the KKK does not represent the values of this town,” one of the men said.

“Then why’d you vote for it? Why’d you vote for it?” the woman yelled, getting more upset, and even though there was never such a vote, some people began cheering her on.

“Let’s keep this civil! They did not vote for that sign!” said another young woman trying to quiet the room, but emotions were high.

A man said that the KKK had recently applied unsuccessfully to take part in the Adopt-A-Highway program in a neighboring county. A woman said she was worried about “all the undertones of hate being brought out of the woodwork.”

“I’m very concerned,” said Daniel Blackman, a former state Senate candidate who was the first black person ever to run for office from nearby Forsyth County, which has a long history of violence against blacks and was until the late 1980s known as a “whites only” county. “Whether it’s a stunt or whether Ms. Garrett really feels that way, the fact is there are children here that might be threatened or afraid and we’ve got to get ahead of it. The last thing you want to see is someone crazy enough to do something stupid.”

Soon, the meeting ended, and as everyone was heading out into the cold Dahlonega night, an older white man, trying to be sensitive, said to Blackman, “Be careful.”

The next morning, all of this was the topic of North Georgia talk radio, and the host was taking callers. A woman named Sharon was on the line.

“It’s not just fake news, it’s a fake agenda,” she began, and explained that the banner might have been part of an elaborate plot not only to create chaos in Dahlonega, but also to undermine the presidency of Donald Trump and ultimately, the nation.

She knew all of this, she said, because she had gone online and discovered a website for a group with locations across the country — including in Dahlonega — that was made up of “former congressional staffers working for the previous administration. They are supporting the impeachment. They support open borders. They are supporting Obamacare. They are promoting disruption at town halls — I call it bullying — and they have a potential for violence.

“I hope everyone is aware that this type of activity — I call it subversion, with a fake narrative — is taking root in the area,” she continued, and meanwhile, in Dahlonega, another new development was unfolding.

Over at town hall, an assistant to Green-Garrett was filing paperwork for a new sign permit.

“Size of sign: 4x6.”

“Material of sign: wood (painted).”

“Color of sign: Gold with Black Lettering.”

“How sign will be attached to wall: Screwed.”

It was an application to make the sign permanent. It would say, “Historic Ku Klux Klan Meeting Hall,” and that was how the seventh day ended.

***

And then, two days after that, the application was withdrawn.

Green-Garrett issued her first statement since unleashing all of this eight days before, saying that she had been trying to get a hotel built only to “meet opposition at every turn.” “I have no other motivation other than to bring businesses and tax revenue to the city,” her statement said. “I want to move forward and do something positive for the city of Dahlonega.”

She said nothing about the KKK banner, and when she was reached by phone at her winter home in Florida, she said “no comment” and hung up.

At her real estate office in a worn-out strip mall on the edge of town, her assistant, Barbara Bridges, said the banner was there, rolled up and stored in a closet.

The town issued an official statement saying that “Dahlonega is a welcoming community for people of diverse backgrounds” and that “recent episodes are not indicative of a change in our character or philosophy.”

The students called off the boycott and declared victory.

And now it was a sunny afternoon on the town square.

People were stopping by the candy shop, or wandering down the aisles of antique shops where Kenny G was playing through the speakers, or eating a sandwich across from the building where a KKK banner had been.

“Yeah, it’s the site of one of the last major gold rushes,” a man standing on the square said to a woman, explaining what he knew about Dahlonega.

“Do you have this in a large?” a woman asked at a T-shirt shop.

Reverend Webb, home this afternoon, said he was heartened to see how so many people had taken a stand. “Dahlonega is a sacred place for everybody,” he said.

At the same time, he said, the episode was not simply about the banner. To him, it was about a banner that had appeared after an election in which the new president had said certain things that had appealed to white nationalists and other hatemongers, whether he intended to or not, opening the door to events that could spiral out of control.

“The atmosphere he’s created in America today has caused people to think they have some kind of power again,” he said. “I thought that before, and I still do.”

Doles, who was out driving in his truck, said he agreed with this assessment. He had been on the way home from the gym when he first saw the banner and the flags, he said, and thought to himself, “It’s been a long time coming.” He said he had recently raised his own flag for the first time in years — the American one, because he finally feels pleased with the direction of the country.

“In the last 50 years, I didn’t think we had the votes to elect a governor, much less a president,” Doles said. “And yet here we are today.”

All of this was what worried Valerie Fambrough, sitting outside at a coffee shop on the pleasant afternoon. She felt good about all the people, including Trump supporters, who had come out to “proclaim a message of love.” She felt unsettled that some people thought she was part of an alt-left agenda. It all felt like the beginning of something, not the end.

“I’m just scared these days,” she said, even though the banner was no longer anywhere in sight.

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« Reply #696 on: March 29, 2017, 07:35:28 AM »
"HONOLULU, HI (KHNL) As sports organizations around the world continue to update their guidelines to make it easier for transgender athletes to compete with the gender they choose it’s becoming a controversial topic in Hawaii’s volleyball community.

“It’s a touchy subject because volleyball is a main sport here,” says Tia Thompson, a transgender athlete.

Born a male, Thompson knew at an early age something wasn’t right. She says she only hung out with girls and liked girl things.

“Because of my religious background with my dad’s side and my mom’s side, we didn’t speak of it, but we knew. As soon as I turned 18 and I moved out, I started transitioning and started taking hormones,” Thompson says.

The now 32-year old says volleyball has been the constant in a life full of changes. In January, she was just approved by USA Volleyball to compete as a woman. Before that, she was required to play in the men’s division at all USAV sanctioned events.

USAV requires transgender women to undergo hormone replacement therapy consistently for at least one year — with proper documentation — and they also have to change their identification, like passports and birth certificates, to female. Before, some organizations, including the Olympics, would require trans athletes to have sex reassignment surgery.

“It took me three years to finally get approved with all the transitioning and all the hormone therapy and submitting all my paperwork to the gender committee,” she said.

There has been some push back from the community. Players and parents we spoke to who did not want to be on camera say it’s not fair for teams with biological women because it creates an unrealistic level of competition."


http://nbc4i.com/2017/03/21/transgender-volleyball-player-has-eyes-on-2020-olympics/

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SPLC: Jack Donovan and Organizing Power Male Supremacy
« Reply #697 on: March 29, 2017, 08:25:48 AM »
The SPLC is a thoroughly disingenuous organization.  Though this article is what it is, it does reveal some items of interest.

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2017/03/27/chorus-violence-jack-donovan-and-organizing-power-male-supremacy

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« Reply #698 on: April 04, 2017, 06:48:51 AM »
The SPLC is a thoroughly disingenuous organization.  Though this article is what it is, it does reveal some items of interest.

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2017/03/27/chorus-violence-jack-donovan-and-organizing-power-male-supremacy

"the chorus of moaning that emanates from the “Manosphere.”

I'm wondering if that is the way they put it when women speak about problems they suffer as a gender?

It's a pretty fair question.

Edit: I'm going to add, that much has been stated about US statistics.

Here in Mexico, per INEGI and IMSS, men suffer 90% of the workplace fatalities and are 85% of the amputations that happen, about 3/4's of the homeless in the ONLY study that exists on the subject, but the stated mission of SEGOB (Secretary of the Government), is the empowerment of women 2014 -2018.... http://www.gob.mx/segob/acciones-y-programas/programa-integral-para-prevenir-atender-sancionar-y-erradicar-la-violencia-contra-las-mujeres-2014-2018 (there are currently 101 different programs specifically designed to benefit women through the National Institute of the Woman alone - not counting others) and they're worried about anything greater than a 10% excess of men in politics... because male lives don't matter... obviously.

No studies at all in fact, that portray women in a light that is superior (divorce, custody...and even the INEGI statistics fail to even ask men if they've been victims of violence from women - even though studies in other countries show that women commit DV at rates higher than men, they cherry pick data from England, but won't conduct the studies here in a manner that would yield objective data)... because of $$$.

"Equality."

The major problem, is that such a huge portion of the male psyche derives its worth from being a lackey to women. This is especially interesting when the logical conclusion that having neither XX or XY chromosomes does anything in the way of making one morally superior nor inferior.

It is this problem in particular, that prohibits men from even having any problems that might plague them as a gender set, especially in a society where equality is the stated aim; discussed in any meanfingful manner, and any statement of well founded concerns, is dismissed as "moaning," "complaining," or "misogynistic" and what is nothing more than an attempt to discredit it, in a further attempt to retain female supremacy in first world countries.

The list of female supremacy is a long one. When a gender can abort a million babies a year, and legally abandon them in every state after they're born, but consume 90% of the welfare and have men thrown in jail for not paying child support and spending two decades through use of the male body, in involuntary servitude, and still have the ability to label men as the deadbeats, it is clear who has the power in that equation.

Labor quotas, implemented in every high paying job, but none of the physically demanding jobs, women graduating with degrees in higher numbers than men across the spectrum.

Violence that men suffer, blamed on men, even when perpetrated by a woman.

Hollywood's violence against men, and complete lack of respect for men (any doubt to this, ask yourself why the physical act of a woman being killed within the screenshot doesn't happen), or the joking of men being hit by women, or men being laughed at.

American combat deaths - Men - 650,000, Women - <200 (any death associated with war)....

Selective service for men... not women.

The list is so extensive; it would take a chapter to write them all down (which in many cases, they have been), and people still wouldn't care, primarily because women benefit from it financially, socially, politically, and in several other manners, whilst many men use this to determine their self worth, at the expense of other men.

Even when it is publicised, it is ridiculed or ignored.

There is not a single program in the world, specifically meant for the sole benefit of men, not a single government agency... not even one, in a world where people claim to believe in equality... not even one. That is a sobering thought. It can mean no less, than men are simply disposable and worthless, unless they are in the service of women.

A good example of this analysis, is asking oneself, "Is it acceptable for a man to die, in order to save a woman?" The answer to most would be "yes." Then to increase the number of men to "two," in order to save a woman, and many would still find this acceptable. Then onwards, to three, four, five, ten? How many men have to die, before it is acceptable to let a woman perish? According to Bureau of Labor statistics,, even when men die at a rate of 9-1, it still isn't enough to do anything to even that gender gap.
According to combat statistics, the point becomes clearer. If you are a man, you are worthless, at least in your government's and society's eyes. Do YOU accept that? Especially when they scream for equality, your money, custody of your children, while you pay for it and they hate you because you're never allowed to see them? They scream for double standards but no accountability and at no cost to their lives. When will stop accepting that? When will you stop obeying unjust laws? That's the question... because until men do, people will treat you the way you allow them to.




As men, if one believes in equality, men need to be willing to see women fail, and quit helping them, letting them fall, or admit to one's own hypocrisy. What one does not get to do; however, is claim equality for all, and then expect other men to suffer the yoke of the hypocrisy.
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« Reply #699 on: April 11, 2017, 06:07:31 AM »
Good post.

Minor comment: 

"Here in Mexico, per INEGI and IMSS, men suffer 90% of the workplace fatalities"

My understanding is that in the US the number is 95%.