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Re: Education
« Reply #701 on: July 04, 2023, 05:26:53 PM »
Am I correct in saying "Pussies!"?

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Re: Education
« Reply #702 on: July 04, 2023, 09:48:00 PM »
Correct.

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NRO: The College Reckoning is here
« Reply #703 on: July 08, 2023, 07:53:02 AM »
The College Reckoning Is Here

Dear Weekend Jolter,

Undergraduate college enrollment has been declining for over a decade. Americans increasingly dismiss the value proposition of the four-year-college track. Many higher-education institutions face serious financial difficulties. States are even beginning to do away with degree requirements for many government jobs.

So when the Supreme Court issued its end-of-session rulings on affirmative action and student loans, those decisions only added to the mounting pressure on America’s colleges and universities to reform themselves — and soon. The latter ruling was particularly important, as it made clear no Biden ex machina is being written into the script to relieve the need to cut costs.

And yes, a decision in the other direction could easily have prolonged a vicious cycle. As Daniel Tenreiro wrote for the magazine back in 2021, in examining the drivers of student debt:

The magical thinking of student-loan forgiveness would only exacerbate the issue, demonstrating to universities in no uncertain terms that tuition hikes will continue to be rewarded with federal largesse. Universities have been fed subsidy after subsidy, only to increase costs and leave students with more debt. Erasing debt hands colleges a clean slate on which to calculate next year’s budget.

We avoided that outcome (for now). Cheers. But the underlying cost challenges remain — fueled by what Daniel described as the combination of subsidies and prodigal university administrations, steadily raising tuitions while spending on luxuries like administrative staff and “anything else a deputy assistant dean of student life might think up.” Think: rock-climbing wall. These then become the “rising costs” — voluntary spending beyond the “inherent costs” of producing a quality education, as Thomas Sowell explained in Economic Facts and Fallacies — used to justify more tuition hikes.

Michael Brendan Dougherty, in calling for tuition deflation and a staff purge, recalls how Harvard and Yale have spent their windfalls:

Since 1986, Harvard’s tuition has seen an 89 percent increase in adjusted dollars. Has the school expanded its faculty and course offerings to match that increase? No. It has dramatically expanded its population of administrators. Harvard now employs over 7,000 full-time administrators, slightly more people than the entire undergraduate population. And more than three times the number of faculty members.

The students themselves complain about the labyrinthine buildings that house these functionaries, many of whom exist to politicize life on campus — to populate task forces on Inclusion and Belonging that conduct focus groups and surveys, only to conclude that the university should hire yet another administrator to oversee yet another committee.

Between 2003 and 2021, the number of vice presidents at Yale grew from five to 31 (a 520 percent increase), while the number of faculty members increased from 610 to 675 (a 10 percent increase). Many administrative units have seen a 150 percent increase in size over the last 20 years at Yale, with surging salaries. . . . What we are seeing is the creation and perpetual endowment of make-work political jobs for the professional managerial class at schools.

Even with the pandemic era checking the trajectory of tuition rates for the time being, the challenges for America’s storied institutions of higher education run deeper still. In short: College has an image problem.

Consider the dismal environment for free speech which has stifled debate on campus for years, a situation that administrators are only now coming to regret. Republicans take a particularly dim view toward higher ed, which, no matter how much some professors might prefer seeing fewer conservatives in class, presents an added financial headache for your neighborhood bursar (to repurpose Michael Jordan, Republicans buy degrees too). Then there was Covid. The pandemic was terrible for enrollment, but some schools made it worse by treating infected students like inmates and enforcing nonsensical Covid protocols well after vaccines were available. If you signed up for what looked like a resort and got a penitentiary instead, it probably affected your Yelp review.

On another front, Ryan Mills reports on how colleges also may have to rethink their disciplinary proceedings after a Connecticut court found Yale University’s process failed to provide “adequate safeguards” for a student accused of sexual assault and later acquitted in court. As part of the school’s hearing process, Saifullah Khan was not allowed to question witnesses or introduce evidence he says would have exonerated him. “I think there is a gathering consensus that the means by which campuses are resolving sex-dispute cases is infirm, and perhaps fatally so,” Khan’s lawyer told Ryan.

“Infirm” has many applications when discussing the position American universities find themselves in. Citing the disconnect between the skills employers want and how students are being taught, Congresswoman Virginia Foxx (R., N.C.) wrote for NR this past week in opposition to the “college degree-for-all” mentality. “As long as these demands are not being met by the modern college promise, it remains an imprudent investment for many,” she warned.

College, of course, is not for everyone. Yet the higher-education system, flaws and all, remains a jewel in the American crown, one that continues to attract people from all over the world. As a recent Brookings report noted, college grads still earn more on average and enjoy a range of other benefits.

Fix, don’t forsake. Opportunities for higher-ed reform are many. Start with legacy admissions, says Yuval Levin; then, reassess whether campus amenities must in fact keep pace with those of cruise ships. But this year’s developments have made clear that colleges can’t put off the hard choices much longer.


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Re: Education
« Reply #705 on: July 13, 2023, 06:24:12 AM »
“Trigger warnings’ for ‘graphic fishing scenes’ while we introduce trans porn to young children without informing their parents? There is no word for this but Orwellian,” Susan Hanssen, an associate professor of history at the University of Dallas, told The Fix.

I enjoyed that novel when I was young, maybe 10 to 15 at most ,
as well as the Spencer Tracy movie as an adult.

The only thing that made me sad was how the fish was eaten by the sharks and the old man lost his mega trophy.  But the young boy knew .....

I don't recall being sad over the fish ......

"woke" must die!



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algebra removed from curiculum
« Reply #707 on: July 18, 2023, 03:21:22 PM »
https://www.theblaze.com/news/algebra-1-effectively-eliminated-from-harvard-area-middle-schools-because-too-many-white-and-asian-students-were-taking-it-report

so whites and asians should suffer because
minorities come from broken homes where education is not emphasized?

what is stopping minority kids from taking algebra?

( and don't say white supremacy )


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Re: Education
« Reply #708 on: July 18, 2023, 05:31:46 PM »
When did algebra become optional? Calculus shouldn't be optional.
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Education, woke kindergarten
« Reply #709 on: July 19, 2023, 05:55:03 AM »

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STamford University pres
« Reply #710 on: July 19, 2023, 03:13:07 PM »
to step down for flawed publications

https://www.yahoo.com/news/stanford-university-president-resign-following-173708866.html

many professors get names on hundreds of papers
they don't write
but their names are used due to being famous in their field
and helps the paper get published

it is a bit of scam really

the same academia that never says we should consider reducing spending and controlling costs rather then demand a stop to public education spending no matter what and never as far as I have seen (FWIw) debated against college debt being erased.......


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Lebron's school so far not able to improve performance
« Reply #712 on: July 29, 2023, 09:08:03 AM »
So far, after 3 yrs , extra resources have not improved math proficiency:
I understand:

https://www.westernjournal.com/lebrons-promise-school-put-state-watchlist-school-board-notices-downward-spiral/

details of what is meant by resources

details of what exactly is the problem

no explained

very sad for our nation

I would not be surprised if the poor math performers where not highly efficient on Tik Tok etc.........


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Re: Med school
« Reply #714 on: July 31, 2023, 07:45:59 PM »
I wish they would say, these are the outcomes for people who came in below minimum standard instead of single them out by race.

From the article:
“Even before affirmative action was ended, these programs often did not feel welcoming for Black students, whose credentials are constantly questioned.”

  - (Doug) Doesn't ending affirmative action end that?

Also from the article:
“This is truly alarming ..."

  - Um, no.  The paragraphs preceding say that has been happening all along.

25 years of mistaken policy, hurting blacks, all because Sandra Day O'Conner was picked based on gender instead of competence.
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NRO: Special Education Issue
« Reply #715 on: August 12, 2023, 07:29:21 AM »



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Roland Fryer: Victim of the Liberal Minstrel Show
« Reply #718 on: October 13, 2023, 06:10:17 PM »
I can't recommend this video highly enough. It absolutely excoriates Harvard, race hustlers, liberals, higher ed, and so on, with an amazing black professor taking issue with many liberal narratives, eventually leading to Harvard firing him.

As Roland Fryer say: "The truth is enough."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8xWOlk3WIw
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Harvard
« Reply #719 on: October 26, 2023, 10:47:42 AM »
https://www.bing.com/search?q=harvards+endowment&form=ANNTH1&refig=2db6c8d7845c4f8faa33c057ffc05195&pc=DCTS

why the heck are billionaire's donating to Harvard anyway?

can anyone think of a better place or way to donate money?
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Re: Education, Columbia Professor speaks out
« Reply #720 on: October 29, 2023, 09:19:47 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DE2Xqs6b98

If already posted, it deserves another watch.

"Aren't you afraid to speak up?  I'm speaking up because I am afraid!"
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Arab donations to US universities / colleges
« Reply #721 on: October 31, 2023, 09:11:26 AM »
note this was published months prior to 10/7th:

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/10/31/watch-cornel-west-rants-against-the-existence-of-israel-75-years-of-genocide/

I distinctly recall that while I went to George Washington U. in '78 to 79-80
during the Iranian hostage crises that there were hoards with Iranians on the streets yelling and screaming on one side of the street and Americans yelling back at them from the other side of the street.

I remember asking someone what in the world were all these Iranians doing here and was told that Iran money "built the engineering building".

This may be a reason higher education is not speaking out.
Dollars and cents more than ideology.

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A Degree in Bigotry
« Reply #722 on: November 10, 2023, 10:14:27 PM »
I’m tempted to create a “Cognitive Dissonance of Higher Education” thread for pieces like this & indeed suspect one piece of fallout from the Israel/Hamas war will be evermore higher ed asshattery being outed as horrified left leaners come to terms with how far schools have veered from their putative missions and embraced rabid polemicists utterly unable to produce a reasoned argument. More like this is coming, in short, and likely needs a home around here.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/comment/2023/11/10/university-college-campus-culture-war-anti-semitism/?fbclid=IwAR3w5ElT2ATOncCIvcZrxUQXwU8EKRRIroM9BL2rEwQRuDcaO2xIeBkrcYA

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Re: Education
« Reply #723 on: November 11, 2023, 07:05:11 AM »
sorry BBG  pay walled

cannot read posted article

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Re: Education
« Reply #724 on: November 14, 2023, 02:20:49 PM »
BBG: 

I think this thread will do fine for your purposes: 

https://firehydrantoffreedom.com/index.php?topic=2645.msg102240#msg102240

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Education and sexualizing 0-12 year olds
« Reply #725 on: November 26, 2023, 08:42:50 AM »
https://nypost.com/2023/11/25/entertainment/natalie-portman-says-children-should-not-be-working-in-hollywood-after-she-was-sexualized-in-first-movie-at-age-12/

Forgive me if I put this here in the context of the so called Florida "book banning" "controversy".  Those books were aimed at sexualizing the grades of K-3, kids roughly 6-9 years old.

The link above is about an actress in Hollywood at age 12 and that's too early for sexualizing kids, if we should be doing that at all.

We can argue what to do in public education with teenagers and sex ed, but isn't it at least a 60-40 issue in our favor to stop robbing our youngest of the innocence of their childhood?

Must a 7 year old confront trans issues in math class? Some (the"woke") say yes and call everyone who disagrees "book banners".

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Re: Education
« Reply #726 on: November 26, 2023, 03:37:29 PM »
good movie

Leon was her first crush ;  seemed like some sort of puppy love.

who just happened to be a mafia hit man, but a loner with no friends and only the mafia boss as his liason.

story I may have posted in the past :

We were right behind Jean Reno at the check in at the Cancun airport late 90's.
One of my nephews said "look its the professional"!

Katherine was so flustered she asked him if he was planning on a sequel.

If you saw the movie you would know that was not possible.
He was polite and smiled and said no.    :-D

Natalie Portman  was sexualized and it was a bit weird in a way.   
but she and Renu and Gary Oldman were great in their acting

interesting she felt this traumatized her.  And yes I can see the linkage between her being disturbed and with children being exposed in grade school probably being disturbed.

Totally unnecessary and wrong in mho.
and don't tell me grooming is not part of the motive ....._>   :x





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Swift nonsense gets even more ridiculous
« Reply #727 on: November 30, 2023, 06:49:09 AM »
https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2023/11/28/taylor-swift-college-courses-to-be-offered-at-harvard-uc-berkeley-university-of-florida/

Perhaps her move from Nashville to NYC accounts for "move" from country to something else
Perhaps she was no longer getting lyrics from middlemen who got from somewhere else.

Noonan - the "gift" of Swift.  It is all her genius.   :roll:



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Leftist teachings linked to anxiety and depression
« Reply #728 on: December 02, 2023, 09:22:17 AM »
https://news.yahoo.com/depression-anxiety-rates-higher-among-094558454.html#:~:text=Fox%20News-,Depression%20and%20anxiety%20rates%20higher%20among%20college,their%20peers%2C%20new%20study%20suggests&text=College%20students%20may%20be%20at,in%20The%20Lancet%20Public%20Health.

new study published in The Lancet Public Health.

Researchers from University College London analyzed data from two studies (covering 10,000 young people) .

"We would have expected higher education students to have better mental health than their non-student peers, as they tend to be from more privileged backgrounds on average, so these results are particularly concerning," she said.  (Dr. Tayla McCloud, the first author of the study from UCL Psychiatry)
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Re: Education
« Reply #731 on: December 18, 2023, 10:17:43 AM »
sorry BBG  pay walled

cannot read posted article

Hmm, wasn’t for me:

Intolerant bigots have seized control of our universities
Jewish students are under attack. It's time for donors to demand action
CHARLES LIPSON
10 November 2023 • 2:13pm
Charles Lipson
 Pro-Palestine protests at Harvard have shocked alumni groups
Pro-Palestine protests at Harvard have shocked alumni groups CREDIT: Joseph Prezioso/AFP
The surge of open hatred of Jews on college campuses is unprecedented in modern American life. We saw it outside universities in the 1930s, when it was openly preached by Detroit’s Father Coughlin and published by Henry Ford. We saw it from the KKK during the civil rights revolution of the 1950s and 1960s. The Klan targeted Jews, as a marginal group, as allies of black equality, and as vehicles to build solidarity in their target audience: poor, angry, Christian whites.

At universities we saw a different kind of prejudice. That bigotry was exemplified by quiet restrictions on Jewish students and faculty, referred to as “Gentleman’s Agreements”. Those agreements excluded Jews from fraternities and sororities at most schools. Harvard began the practise and stated their goal openly, while others followed in secret. This practice changed only when it was prohibited by civil rights laws.

These practices were obviously prejudiced, but they were a far cry from the open hatred, intimidation, and speech suppression we now see on campus. Some of that is an old mask stripped away, some is an increase in underlying hatred, and some is a collapse of any restraints on its public expression. The old mask was emblazoned with the coda, “We don’t hate Jews. We don’t hate Israel. We just oppose Israeli policies and support Palestinian rights.”

Well, if recent demonstrations are any guide, it turns out they do hate Israel. They want to see it wiped off the map. That’s the meaning of their constant chant, “From the river to the sea.” A Palestinian state that occupies all that territory between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean would extinguish Israel. That’s their “final solution” for the Jewish state.

Chilling as that goal is, the activists don’t stop there. They extend their hatred to all Jews, and they say so openly in campus meetings and demonstrations. That is led by extremist Muslims, who are part of the dominant coalition on campus. But it is embraced by their political allies. More on that coalition in a moment.

Decent Americans know something has gone badly wrong at our universities. This wider public recognises, quite accurately, that the attacks on Jews are only the latest, most visible examples of a more pervasive problem: the rise of intolerant, illiberal ideology on the far-Left. That has always been a problem on the far-Right, but they were never major players on campus or in elite media. The Left is.

Watching these latest instances of anti-Semitic words and violent demonstrations, average Americans want to know why it is happening and what can be done to reverse the damage. Parents and alumni have still more questions. Families want to know where their children should go to college, where they will be encouraged to grow and learn, not bullied for their views or their faith. Those questions aren’t limited to Jewish families. Most parents want their children to live and learn in a safe, tolerant atmosphere. They are deeply worried, and they are right.

Their anxiety is shared by many alumni. Until now, wealthy donors have been content to turn over millions, see their names on a building or professorship, and attend cocktail parties with the university president after football games. No more. Many are saying our leading universities are not worthy of their support. They want to oust the leaders who encouraged this decline, stood silent as it grew worse, and then were surprised – and speechless – when it broke out into the open.

It won’t be easy to enact change – university leadership is self-perpetuating and campus bureaucracy is deeply entrenched. At Yale, for example, when alumni wanted a few dissonant voices on the board, the existing members changed the rules so that only they could nominate new members.

These disturbing events on campus are the bitter fruits of trends that have been developing for years. A few concerned faculty tried, in vain, to halt this ideological frenzy and moral collapse before it sank their institutions. They failed. The number of bureaucrats employed has ballooned and now approaches the number of students on campus. Over these students, they exert enormous control.

Students themselves have contributed mightily to this illiberal, intolerant atmosphere. That culture now begins in elite high schools and has seeped down to middle schools. Surveys now show that only about half of college students support free speech. Many tell survey researchers it is perfectly fine to shout down opposing views. A non-trivial minority think it is okay to use violence against people with different views. They never answer the hard question, “who decides?”

It is hardly surprising that Jews are the targets. That has been true historically when illiberal ideologies gain political clout and look for scapegoats. That is exactly what is happening on American campuses today. It began with hatred of Israel, damning them as “settler colonisers” rather than a people associated with that land for three millennia. It quickly metastasised to vilify anyone who supported the Jewish state and then to Jews in general.

This movement is shaped by the dominant ideology, which divides the world into oppressors and victims. The oppressors are “privileged whites,” whose only hope of redemption is to accept their guilt and support the “oppressed” and “colonised” victims. The result, which dominates campus politics, is an angry, oppositional ideology grounded in identity politics.

It is easy to speculate how this fragile and at times nonsensical coalition might break upon contact with reality. True, you occasionally see students marching with signs like “Queer = Free Palestine.” That idea, to put it mildly, is not endorsed on the ground in Palestine or any majority-Muslim state. It shouldn’t take more than a moment’s reflection to realise that those activists would return home in boxes if they marched with that sign through Gaza. But it’s far easier to signal virtue by proclaiming their alliance with the “oppressed” and assuming it is reciprocated.

This dominant ideology and the coalition that supports it have undermined what should be the most basic values at our universities: free and open inquiry and a safe environment to express them. Those are essential for real learning, the creation of new knowledge, and human flourishing. The result is worse than a gloomy environment on campus. It is a hostile one for conservative students, pro-Israel students, Evangelicals, and others who dare to depart from the approved line.

None of this will get better on its own. It will require a concerted movement of parents, alumni, and donors. They must demand systemic changes to restore sanity, safety, and free expression on campus. It won’t be easy: but action is long overdue.

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The Marxists have succeeded beyond their wildest dreams
« Reply #732 on: December 27, 2023, 06:52:43 AM »
in education, the media, DEI and the rest:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12890583/americans-osama-bin-laden-poll-gen-zers.html

one thing these polls NEVER show

and that is how what are the feelings of those born elsewhere.

foreign born more likely then not score high on Osama likeability, I suspect.

how many of the Hispanics are illegal?
how many of the Blacks are illegal or immigrants?

since both those groups have higher percentages who are sympathetic to a mass murderer.

I bet these questions would be quite revealing



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Harvard's Gay resigns, not out
« Reply #734 on: January 03, 2024, 06:03:50 AM »
She leaves the Presidency but keeps her teaching position and (rounds to) million dollar salary.

Isn't plagiarism academic fraud?

Harvard had to choose between dishonor and scandal, got both.  Now keeping both.  Excuse me, but was the plagiarism and antisemitism real or not?  If real, why is it acceptable, forgivable in the classroom?

Poison Ivy describes all who choose to be elite and poison.

https://nypost.com/2024/01/02/opinion/claudine-gays-obnoxious-self-flattering-resignation-is-just-the-start-harvard-needs-to-answer-what-took-so-long/


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Re: Education
« Reply #735 on: January 03, 2024, 07:24:26 AM »
"  Excuse me, but was the plagiarism and antisemitism real or not? "

according to most on the LEFT the answer is NO

but racism because she is a Black woman is!   :roll: :wink:

watched Abby Phillips last night at CNN and as I knew she would first discussion was about this with two Black men.  One pointed out this is not about racism.  He said it was clear she committed "50" acts of plagiarism, and of course she should have been fired.   Did not say much though about her unwillingness to call out those calling for Jews to be wiped out in Israel.

The other gentleman  was pure racial anger .  This was to get a Black woman in the "Right's" effort to remove Blacks from positions of power.  Ranted this was an effort by the Right to go after DEI.

I did not get his name but he must be invested in DEI......

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School choice is another 70-30 issue
« Reply #736 on: February 09, 2024, 08:41:09 AM »
Looking for 60-40 issues with which to win elections and finding 70% issues that favor 'conservatives':

https://www.realcleareducation.com/articles/2024/02/08/the_results_are_in_parents_favor_school_choice_1010534.html

Isn't it more like 100% favor school choice - except for teachers unions

In MN we have had public school choice for decades.  It was started by a Democrat Governor who ran against his own party and won.

https://education.mn.gov/mde/fam/open/
In the 2020-21 school year, more than 86,000 Minnesota students, or 9.9% are enrolled in a school not in their residential district.

With real school choice, education dollars follow the student to public or private schools.

Some think school choice helps private schools, but competition makes the public schools better as well.
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Bill Penalizes Political Proselytizing
« Reply #737 on: February 10, 2024, 09:20:04 AM »
I would love to see this law spread to other states:

Indiana Senate passes bill restricting tenure for profs who push political views on students, punishing students for disruptive protests

​The Indiana Senate passed a massive higher education bill that would require colleges to implement disciplinary policies for disruptive protesters and also restrict tenure.
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Adam Sabes | Deputy Editor
February 9, 2024, 8:40 am ET
The Indiana Senate passed a massive higher education bill that would require colleges to implement disciplinary policies for disruptive protesters and also restricts tenure.

Indiana Senate Bill 202 was passed on Tuesday by a vote of 39-9 on party lines and was authored by Republican Indiana State Sens. Spencer Deery, Rep. Jeff Raatz and Tyler Johnson.

The bill would require public universities in the state to “create a policy that includes a range of disciplinary actions” for any member of the community who ”materially and substantially disrupts the protected expressive activity of another employee, student, student organization, or contractor of the state educational institution.”

If passed, the bill would require each of the state’s public colleges and universities to create a policy preventing tenure or promotion to faculty members who are “unlikely to foster a culture of free inquiry, free expression, and intellectual diversity within the institution,” and “unlikely to expose students to scholarly works from a variety of political or ideological frameworks that may exist within and are applicable to the faculty member’s academic discipline.”

[RELATED: University removes ‘Introduction to Bondage’ from ‘Healthy Relationships Week’ after backlash over presenter’s disturbing online activity]

Under the bill, faculty who “subjects students to political or ideological views and opinions that are unrelated to the faculty member’s academic discipline” will also not be granted promotion or tenure.

Additionally, the bill would prohibit colleges and universities from requiring applicants for employment from pledging their allegiance to a certain set of policies, politics, or ideological movements.

Each public college and university in the state would also be required to submit data about their DEI budget allocations.

According to the Indiana Capital Chronicle, in reforming the boards of each school, the bill would also give the state’s House and Senate majority leaders power to appoint board members.

[RELATED: Indiana University facing federal civil rights investigation over anti-Semitism response: EXCLUSIVE]

Deery said the bill is supposed to be a response to “declining views” of higher education, according to the outlet.

“Infringing on academic freedom is a red line we should not cross, but we don’t need to give up on these values to curb the excessive politicalization and viewpoint discrimination that threatens our state’s workforce goals,” Deery said on the Senate floor.

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50% of All College Grads are Unemployed a Year After Graduation
« Reply #738 on: February 23, 2024, 06:51:48 AM »
Lots of takeaways here for the ed biz, one primary one being that sundry victim status embracement degree paths (black studies, women’s studies, and more recently LGBTQLMNOP studies) do little but create a cadre of angry, underemployed people, which could be seen as a feature rather than a bug.

https://stradaeducation.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/Talent-Disrupted.pdf?utm_source=StradaEducation.org&utm_medium=Website&utm_campaign=TalentDisrupted&utm_content=DownloadButton%20

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Victim degrees in Education
« Reply #739 on: February 23, 2024, 07:38:43 AM »
" Lots of takeaways here for the ed biz, one primary one being that sundry victim status embracement degree paths (black studies, women’s studies, and more recently LGBTQLMNOP studies) do little but create a cadre of angry, underemployed people, which could be seen as a feature rather than a bug."

Agree.

seems to me a course or two within a sociology department could address all these areas without the need to make these into whole degrees.

For example, a history of America from a Black's perspective seems very reasonable.
But to make it one's field of major does seem to lead to the creation a cadre of angry, underemployed people.

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Seattle shuts down gifted student program
« Reply #740 on: April 03, 2024, 07:54:47 AM »
https://nypost.com/2024/04/03/us-news/seattle-public-schools-shuts-down-gifted-and-talented-program/

Too many whites and 'Asian Americans'?

'Gifted' children have 'special needs' too.  They will be bored in regular classes.

But it doesn't actually cost more to educate them.

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Re: Education
« Reply #741 on: April 18, 2024, 07:01:32 PM »
80% of K-12 teachers think schools have gotten worse in the last 5 years.
  - Pew Research study, 2024
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expanding on above post from Pew Research
« Reply #742 on: April 19, 2024, 01:02:51 PM »
https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2024/04/04/what-public-k-12-teachers-want-americans-to-know-about-teaching/

sounds like teachers want more pay more spent on schools.
(don't blame them)

not clear their views of their unions are.

so do we increase property tax more to spend more ?


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Re: expanding on above post from Pew Research
« Reply #743 on: April 19, 2024, 03:02:17 PM »
https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2024/04/04/what-public-k-12-teachers-want-americans-to-know-about-teaching/

sounds like teachers want more pay more spent on schools.
(don't blame them)

not clear their views of their unions are.

so do we increase property tax more to spend more ?

Thanks ccp for finding the link.

Here's an example with round numbers.
Minneapolis Schools spends $20,000 per student per year. 
https://www.usnews.com/education/k12/minnesota/districts/minneapolis-public-school-district-100071

Assuming 30 kids in a classroom, the number teachers complain about, that's 600k per teacher.  Take away let's say 5000 for heat, lights, water and maybe 10k for the use of the room in a hopefully paid for school, that leaves 585k. Now assume that teacher makes 85k in salary, a half million from every classroom is going to something else, administrators and diversity officers and so on. 

If you want to pay the teachers more, do just a little less of all the other crap.

If 85% of the money isn't making it to the teachers anyway, why would we think having more money would?
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Re: Education
« Reply #744 on: April 19, 2024, 06:06:21 PM »
ZANG!

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Re: Education
« Reply #745 on: April 21, 2024, 11:21:46 AM »
I am thinking 30 per classroom is too many.
15 to 20 seems more manageable.

This is about 10 yr old "data" if accurate:

https://marketbrief.edweek.org/marketplace-k-12/k-12-spending-where-the-money-goes/

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this appears to be more up to date on education expenditures
« Reply #746 on: April 21, 2024, 11:24:55 AM »
again most is spent on salaries:

https://nces.ed.gov/programs/coe/indicator/cmb

presumably it includes ancillary staff,  janitorial staff, cafeteria staff, school crossing guards, etc.

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Biden using taxpayer money
« Reply #747 on: May 01, 2024, 08:40:09 AM »
to buy votes

offers gov. ball out for private fraud

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/careersandeducation/317-000-student-loan-borrowers-are-getting-6-1-billion-in-debt-canceled-after-being-misled-about-career-prospects-and-how-much-money-they-could-make-after-graduation/ar-AA1nYyFy?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=1a34540d6bd944d598a6112411663d30&ei=38

boy I wish I could get gov. funds anytime I got defrauded !

As Colin Jost said Biden is such the decent beautiful man his father would vote for.
Unbelievable what a jerk he was saying this.

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Education ROI by Sundry Metrics
« Reply #748 on: May 12, 2024, 04:24:25 PM »
Very interesting piece with all sorts of wicked cool interactive graphs exploring the ROI of various degrees, both grad and undergrad. Suffice to say there is a lot out there with a poor ROI, with the feds funding a lot of that bad decision making. Know someone heading to college? Share this with ‘em:

https://freopp.org/does-college-pay-off-a-comprehensive-return-on-investment-analysis-563b9cb6ddc5