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« Reply #751 on: October 21, 2015, 01:02:17 PM »
We heard her practice answer on Stevens' please for security, and that falls flat.

What else she should she be asked?

Tell us Madam Secretary everything you said and did, who you talked with, who you met with, during the time between when you first learned of the crisis and when it was over.

Is it true that you went home for the evening?

Did you send or receive emails over your private server during the attack, about the attack?  Did any other emails during that time? 

Did you speak with the Defense Secretary, Chaiman of the Joint Chiefs or any other military leader during that time?

Who concocted the false video explanation for the attack?  When?  We did you perpetuate that falsehood - to the public and to the families of the fallen?

Did the arrest of one person constitute full justice to the victims' families and the perpetrators, a painful enough retaliation to prevent another attack, or should we expect something more?

Where did Ambassador Stevens' emails go after they reached your email?  Was this handled by you or by staff?

What more would you or could you have done if you had been President at the time?


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Re: The Hillbillary Clintons long, sordid, and often criminal history
« Reply #752 on: October 21, 2015, 01:13:50 PM »
For Crafty who thinks that Hillary is "HOT"!    :evil: :evil:


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« Reply #753 on: October 21, 2015, 01:14:05 PM »
I would like to see her asked if she now regrets wrongfully blaming the youtube video and having it's producer arrested.

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« Reply #754 on: October 21, 2015, 01:56:35 PM »
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By James Freeman
Oct. 21, 2015 7:24 a.m. ET
9 COMMENTS

Why did Secretary Hillary Clinton leave the State Department on September 11, 2012 while U.S. diplomats were under attack in Libya? As Mrs. Clinton prepares to testify Thursday before the House Select Committee on Benghazi, John Bolton notes that on the fateful day when a U.S. ambassador and three other Americans were murdered, Mrs. Clinton went home for the evening.

He adds that “she reportedly spoke exactly once, at 10 p.m., with the president when he called her to discuss the State Department news release that first floated the fantasy that Muslim outrage over a blasphemous video about Muhammad sparked the attack. Incredibly, Mrs. Clinton never spoke at all to Defense Secretary Leon Panetta or Joint Chiefs Chairman Dempsey, according to their congressional testimony.” And Mr. Bolton raises another question: “Was Mrs. Clinton using her private email server while her State Department desk stood vacant? If so, where are those emails?”

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Something like this is what we will get
« Reply #755 on: October 22, 2015, 07:16:43 AM »
Hillary's responses could be;

1)  What difference does it make?

2)  None of your Republican business!

3)  We were looking to replace the ambassador anyway with a woman.

4)  I've already answered every question, been more forthright, turned over more documents and emails than anyone in history, and cooperated fully with multiple unprecedented investigations.

5)  We did the best we could with the intelligence we had and acted appropriately.   Yes some mistakes, in retrospect, were made and yes we will learn from them to avoid similar events in the future (when I am President)

6)  I take full responsibility.   (So lets move on)

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« Reply #756 on: October 22, 2015, 09:54:13 AM »
Does anyone believe the crap going on with this committee hearing with Hillary?

The Dem politicians are the most corrupt and lying bastards..............doing everything to obstruct finding out about Her Royal Highness actions.

Just name Hillary President for Life and get it over with................. :cry:
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« Reply #757 on: October 22, 2015, 10:31:59 AM »
PP,

Sadly your right.  The Crats are already just waiting to burst the airwaves with just look at how Presidential she looked, answered every question, and ran circles around the boobs.

And or how they are on a "witch hunt" to get her about "nothing".

 :cry: :x


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« Reply #763 on: October 22, 2015, 07:14:12 PM »

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She knew all along
« Reply #764 on: October 22, 2015, 07:19:03 PM »
Oct. 22, 2015 7:32 p.m. ET
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Thanks to Hillary Clinton’s Benghazi testimony on Thursday, we now understand why the former secretary of state never wanted anyone to see her emails and why the State Department sat on documents. Turns out those emails and papers show that the Obama administration deliberately misled the nation about the deadly events in Libya on Sept. 11, 2012.

Don’t forget how we came to this point. Mrs. Clinton complained in her testimony on Capitol Hill that past Congresses had never made the overseas deaths of U.S. officials a “partisan” issue. That’s because those past deaths had never inspired an administration to concoct a wild excuse for their occurrence, in an apparent attempt to avoid blame for a terror attack in a presidential re-election year.

The early hints that this is exactly what happened after the murder of Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans cast doubt on every White House-issued “fact” about the fiasco and led to the establishment of Rep. Trey Gowdy’s select committee.
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Main Street Columnist Bill McGurn on Hillary Clinton's testimony before the House Select Committee on Benghazi. Photo credit: Getty Images.

What that House committee did Thursday was finally expose the initial deception. To understand the willful depth of that trickery, let’s briefly recall the history.

In early September 2012, at the Democratic National Convention, Vice President Joe Biden summarized to thunderous applause the administration’s re-election pitch: “Osama bin Laden is dead, and General Motors is alive.” Translation: The president had revived the economy, even as he had put “al Qaeda on the run,” as Mr. Obama put it. Five days later, four Americans in Benghazi were dead. It appeared the White House had slept through a terror attack on the anniversary of 9/11.

The administration instead immediately presented the attack as a spontaneous mob backlash to an anti-Muslim YouTube video. At 10:30 on the night of the attack, Mrs. Clinton issued a statement about the violence, blaming the video. She repeated the charge in a speech the next day. President Obama gave his own speech that day, referring to the video and refusing to use the word “terrorism.”

The next day, Mrs. Clinton mentioned the video twice more. The day after that, Press Secretary Jay Carney said: “We have no information to suggest that it was a preplanned attack.” Mrs. Clinton promised the father of one of the victims that the administration would “make sure that the person who made that film is arrested and prosecuted.” In his weekly address, Mr. Obama talked about the video. When the Libyan president said there was evidence the attack was planned months in advance, U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice contradicted him. She instead told five Sunday talk shows—five days after the attack—that “based on the best information we have to date,” the attack “began spontaneously” in response to “this hateful video.” Mr. Obama for two full weeks continued to talk about YouTube.

Here’s what the Benghazi committee found in Thursday’s hearing. Two hours into Mrs. Clinton’s testimony, Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan referred to an email Mrs. Clinton sent to her daughter, Chelsea, at 11:12 the night of the attack, or 45 minutes after the secretary of state had issued a statement blaming YouTube-inflamed mobs. Her email reads: “Two of our officers were killed in Benghazi by an Al Queda-like group.” Mrs. Clinton doesn’t hedge in the email; no “it seems” or “it appears.” She tells her daughter that on the anniversary of 9/11 an al Qaeda group assassinated four Americans.

That same evening, Mrs. Clinton spoke on the phone with Libyan President Mohamed Magariaf, around 8 p.m. The notes from that conversation, in a State Department email, describe her as saying: “We have asked for the Libyan government to provide additional security to the compound immediately as there is a gun battle ongoing, which I understand Ansar as Sharia [sic] is claiming responsibility for.” Ansar al Sharia is al Qaeda’s affiliate on the Arabian Peninsula. So several hours into the attack, Mrs. Clinton already believed that al Qaeda was attacking U.S. facilities.

The next afternoon, Mrs. Clinton had a call with the Egyptian Prime Minister Hesham Kandil. The notes from it are absolutely damning. The secretary of state tells him: “We know that the attack in Libya had nothing to do with the film. It was a planned attack—not a protest.” And yet Mrs. Clinton, and Ms. Rice and Mr. Obama for days and days continued to spin the video lie.

In other news Thursday, Judicial Watch unveiled a new cable, sent the day after the attack, from the Defense Intelligence Agency to the State Department Command Center. It explains that the attack was carried out by a “Salafi terrorism group” in “retaliation for the killing of an Al Qaeda operative.”

The cable says “the attack was an organized operation with specific information that the U.S. Ambassador was present.” The cable included details about the group’s movements and the weapons it used in the assault.

Count on the Obama administration to again resort to blaming “confusing” and “conflicting” information at the time for its two-week spin. That was Mrs. Clinton’s flimsy excuse at the hearing. But her own conversations prove she was in no doubt about what happened—while it was still happening.

Democrats on the committee spent most of the hearing complaining that it was a waste of time and money. Quite the opposite. It was invaluable, for the clarity provided by those three emails alone.

Write to kim@wsj.com.

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« Reply #765 on: October 23, 2015, 07:12:27 AM »
We all here knew this.   The evidence is clear.

That said the left will not abandon their gal.  She is all they have for '16.

They fight in war like fashion.  Just no guns but in every other way they leave a scorched Earth policy.

Bribe, threaten, break all laws and deny it (especially with no controlling legal authority or one that is pro Democrat Party), cover up, lie more, make up stories, twist the truth or spin it backwards, primp her up in suits, and an inch thick of makeup, have her sit upright and act proper and above it all, hit the airways lying right along with her, the media almost entirely willing to go along (my first revulsion is that scumbag Carl Bernstein who shows how his going after Nixon was nothing more than partisanship now defending this crum), and she agrees to take responsibility but then has NO accountability beyond that empty statement and she still is a candidate for the Dem nomination.

What a freaking mob!   

Time to look into Levin state conventions remedy.

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« Reply #766 on: October 23, 2015, 07:17:30 AM »
Yep, the 2016 Election is over. Hillary won it yesterday with her appearance. The country does not care whether she is a psychopath or sociopath. Just give them their goodies.

The GOPe cannot put up a candidate that can beat her. They will run Rubio, Jeb or in a pinch, Cruz. Each will lose.

Carson will lose if he runs, because he is too nice and with his previous stands on  issues,  very vulnerable.

Trump would have a hard time, but he could probably win. But the GOPe will not let him be the nominee.
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« Reply #767 on: October 23, 2015, 07:32:32 AM »
And anyone who thinks that even an indictment will make a difference should certainly reconsider that now.

She will still run, spend five times more millions on lawyers to make up stories and throw down war tacks in front of every avenue the legal process will go,  and than proceed to tell us how taxpayers are wasting millions on partisan investigations and the rats will be marching right behind her to the WH.

And don't think many illegals will not be voting for her.

I am not so sure that some of the Repub candidates couldn't beat her, but it is sure hard to compete with taxpayer cash bribes:  "free" college, "free" health  care, "free" borders, and the rest.
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« Reply #768 on: October 23, 2015, 07:40:31 AM »
Yes, she knew all along.  Well put.  Proven by the evidence in this hearing.

Conservative media did a nice job of putting together the clips quickly that prove this case.

The consulate made 600 attempts that year to plea for more security.  None of them got through to her.

Sid Blumenthal, too seedy to be employed by the Obama administration but employed by the foundation, made 150 attempts and got through every time.

She knew while it happened it was a terror attack.  She told family and Libya and Egypt it was a terror attack.  Simultaneously told the American public it was a video.

It was Sept 11, but it was also less than 60 days to Obama's reelection.  The mantra was that GM is alive, Bin Laden is dead, Libya is a success and al Qaida is on the run.  They wouldn't put a fortress in Benghazi because it went against there political strategy of light footprint.  And they wouldn't tell us straight what happened in Benghazi because it turned that story on its head.

5 days later, instead of Hillary stepping forward, flunkie Susan Rice went on 5 national shows and lied about security and lied about the attack, at the direction of Clinton and Obama.

You'd think the lied to media would be livid to find out about being used as stooges in the deception.  Just the opposite.  Washington Post today is filled with 'news' and opinion stories about how Hillary prevailed because she kept her cool and answered their questions.  Really?  (CCP has been right about this all along.)

Underlying all of this is something perverted about the relationship between Clinton and Obama.  This is his failure.  He picked her.  He authorized the war.  He's accountable for security.  He told the lie himself, to the UN among others, and his 'folks' wrote the script that Susan Rice delivered with confidence to hold this back until at least after the election.  And for that, he promoted her.

Hillary knows that.  She's got plenty on him and is the type of gal not afraid to threaten to tell all.  Suddenly when her candidacy looked bleak, Bernie Sanders backed off, the FBI was told to back off and Joe Biden backed off.

Hillary showed in the debate that she could stand up this kind of questioning and reply with non-answers, nonsense and misdirection.  She went into the debate and did it.  Now all the opponents have are clips of the questioners making the case against her .  But that they do.

I've been afraid to say all along that I am more troubled by the lying than with the 4 dead Americans.  What happened to them was tragic.  What happened to them was no doubt avoidable.  What happened to them was most likely Clinton and Obama's fault.  The lax security was part of the failed strategy.  All that said, people die in war and by traveling to dangerous places and doing dangerous things.  How many died in Beirut?  In Pearl Harbor?  In the Twin Towers?  We question what we could have done differently without pinning blame on our decision makers.

But lying to the country, to the world, and to the families of the victims for political gain is something truly evil.

That she could sit there and continue to justify it is taking the lying to another level.  It was not a white lie, a gray lie, a black lie, a political lie or a criminal lie.  It's a pathological lie.  This one covers all of the Clinton crime family and Obama White House, they lie with such ease.


Clinton supporter David Geffen, 2007:  "Everybody in politics lies, but [the Clintons] do it with such ease it’s troubling,”
http://www.forbes.com/2007/02/22/cx_tj_0222varietybiz.html

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« Reply #769 on: October 23, 2015, 07:56:26 AM »
Doug,

Welcome to the new Amerika.  Socialism won.

The only thing that can prevent further erosion of the country is an action that will destroy the country. That is for the more conservative side to resort to civil actions of rebellion against DC and the politicians on both sides. But this type of action would at some point lead to armed response by the government, and a full civil war would erupt.

Sometime in the next 5 to 8 years, the next financial crisis and/or general war will occur. This will be the key event that triggers the 4th Turning and a complete societal shift in the US. And the results that ensue will be totally unpredictable and unexpected.

I fear for my grandkids and the country.............
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« Reply #770 on: October 23, 2015, 08:41:23 AM »
Doug,

Welcome to the new Amerika.  Socialism won.

The only thing that can prevent further erosion of the country is an action that will destroy the country. That is for the more conservative side to resort to civil actions of rebellion against DC and the politicians on both sides. But this type of action would at some point lead to armed response by the government, and a full civil war would erupt.

Sometime in the next 5 to 8 years, the next financial crisis and/or general war will occur. This will be the key event that triggers the 4th Turning and a complete societal shift in the US. And the results that ensue will be totally unpredictable and unexpected.

I fear for my grandkids and the country.............

Everyone is telling me that we're already defeated and maybe you're all right.  My parents (and grandparents) fought against liberalism since Woodrow Wilson and lost.  WHat they warned of in the 60s has all happened.  Both parents died shortly after Obama was reelected, leaving their 4 grandchildren in a country on a path to a hellhole. 

Life is so short that I don't care about it for me anymore.  I will get through wherever this heads.  Even my daughter can survive 'democratic socialism', the upcoming crashes and everything else.  It is the opportunity cost that hurts.  We could have done SO MUCH BETTER.

Reagan was a compromiser.  He came to conservatism somewhere about midstream in his journey, came to supply side economics barely a minute before the election, had hardly a chance of winning at this point in the campaign, had already lost twice.  Was keynote speaker for Barry Goldwater who had the biggest loss in his time.  He wasn't so perfect, tripped over a few things, but through all of that somehow emerged as a leader.  He barely got his message through to the people in time to win 44 states in a 3 way contest with a moderate Republican and an incumbent President running against him.  He barely got his agenda passed through a Dem House and far less than 60 in the Senate.  Gave away enough domestic spending in return to almost sank his agenda.  The congress delayed the tax cuts while Fed went ahead with historic tightening.  He barely got through a really deep recession and into robust growth in time to beat a past vice president - winning 49 states.   And he barely prevailed in negotiations that resulted in the fall of the entire Soviet empire.  All he really had was a deeply held confidence in the American spirit, intuitive-level conservatism and a very exceptional ability to communicate directly to the people.  The result of that good vision, good skill, good luck and good timing was about 25 years of peace and prosperity, now all squandered.

It's been 36 years since "Miracle", when a bunch of college kids went to Lake Placid and beat the Soviet Union that had just beat all the top NHL teams, and since Ronald Reagan took back his microphone and defeated the do nothing right wimps in both parties.  Aren't we due and deserving right now for something better than stagnation and pathological lying?

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« Reply #771 on: October 23, 2015, 09:18:44 AM »
Funny that you mention the Reagan first election and also Miracle. I was stationed at RAF Bentwaters at the time. We could only follow the election from the perspective of the Stars and Stripes daily paper and the British media. And how their media went after Reagan and Thatcher both.

Thatcher began as PM while I was there and was demonized for the actions she took. It set the economy back for years, but the end results were well worth it, just like with Reagan. And the work of both have been totally squandered.

The US has lost the "work ethnic" that we had in the 50's and 60's. It has been replaced with such an entitlement attitude that there can be no hope for a reset without a Depression type of event. But even here in the US, that will only trigger more demand for government services. (My own belief is that 2008-2009, we had the same type event, but only social programs got us through it. it won't happen again.)

Thomas Jefferson was right.................."the tree of liberty must be refreshed with the blood of patriots and traitors" every so often. That point is coming fast.....
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« Reply #772 on: October 23, 2015, 09:46:15 AM »
Some of us are too ready to give up methinks.

UNDER OATH the Dowager Empress made many statements yesterday which, in the hands of the FBI, may well come back to haunt her.

The Gowdy Committee will be questioning Gen. Petraeus and others of high interest.

This is far from over.

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« Reply #773 on: October 23, 2015, 10:13:06 AM »
The 'under oath' aspect is interesting for a pathological liar.  She seemed to say nothing but who knows.  I hope the FBI is a more serious operation than whoever investigated Fast and Furious.  In one sense, the top of the department at the direction of the White House can direct resources, but in another sense the rule of law types you might find in career FBI roles may not roll over silently. 

Yes she lied to us, but the criminal question has to do with the handling of national secrets, marked classified or not.

If there was an organized system discovered for unmarking classified material, heads will roll.

The other test under the law is gross negligence as it applies to the entire operation of setting up and using the server.  It is easy to argue that happened but will come down to the judgment and discretion of the prosecutor, which in effect is the Obama White House.

Back to the point of her having the goods on him, and vice versa.  In the end I think this will need to be settled in the political arena.


Crafty:  "This is far from over."

Also being discovered in the emails is more accumulating evidence of the corrupt money for favors program that existed between the Clinton crime family Foundation and the Clinton unsecured Secretary of State office.  Unfortunately, this is also to be settled in the political arena...

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« Reply #774 on: October 23, 2015, 10:18:46 AM »
And anyone expects the DOJ to prosecute?
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Bottom Line: Hillary Lied & Allowed 4 Americans to be Murdered...
« Reply #775 on: October 23, 2015, 10:52:08 AM »
Hillary: I Didn't Blame Benghazi On The YouTube Video

Four pinocchios for the pantsuit.

October 23, 2015
Matthew Vadum


Former U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's testimony yesterday before the congressional committee formed to investigate the deadly Benghazi debacle that she allowed to happen and then tried to cover up can be summed up in two words: she lied.

Boiled down: Despite mountains of email evidence to the contrary, Clinton denied that she previously blamed the Sept. 11, 2012 terrorist attack that took four American lives on an at-the-time unwatched anti-Islam YouTube video. She denied that left-wing slime merchant and Clinton groupie Sidney Blumenthal was her advisor. She even denied having a computer on her desk at the State Department. (The Washington Post has what appears to be a largely accurate complete transcript of the hearing.)

Hillary wants Americans to believe that her official government emails, sometimes containing top-secret classified information, that she sent around the globe through the insecure, hacker-friendly private email server created to facilitate anticipatory bribes for the would-be U.S. president funneled through the Bill, Hillary and Chelsea Clinton Foundation, don't say what your lying eyes tell you they say.

Republicans made the case yesterday that foreign policy neophyte Sidney Blumenthal, a Clinton crony with business interests in Libya, had easy access to Clinton while her own ambassador struggled heroically to reach her. The many requests from Ambassador Chris Stevens for extra security measures fell upon deaf ears.

Hillary effectively blamed Stevens for getting himself killed, saying he was supposed to take care of his own security. “We were really counting on Chris to guide us and give us information on the ground,” Clinton said when questioned methodically by Rep. Susan Brooks (R-Ind.).

Clinton denied Blumenthal was an advisor of hers even though he regularly barraged her with emails and their relationship goes back decades. "He was not advising me, and I have no reason to have ever mentioned that or know that the president knew that."

It's still a complete and utter mystery to Clinton why American facilities were targeted in Benghazi, Libya. Really. She said that.

"None of us can speak to the individual motivations of those terrorists who overran our compound and who attacked our CIA annex," she told the Benghazi Select Committee on Thursday. "There were probably a number of different motivations." So it's a little bit of this, and a little bit of that.

None of this comes as a surprise to Clinton watchers.

New York Times columnist William Safire famously dubbed her "a congenital liar," and that very same left-wing newspaper now admits that “Hillary Rodham Clinton’s explanations about her use of a personal email account as secretary of state have evolved over time.” Evolved? That's one way of putting it.

With the acquiescence -- and at times, complicity -- of a perennially incurious media, Hillary's verbal jousting skills have saved her many times over her decades of political wheeling and dealing. Now that Clinton is campaigning to succeed President Obama, she was much more polished and composed this week than during her previous, now-infamous congressional testimony on the Benghazi saga. That was in 2013 she when she donned Coke bottle eyeglasses chosen perhaps to elicit sympathy related to her reportedly significant health problems.

Her attitude on that day two years ago could be distilled to one word: whatever.

"Was it because of a protest or was it because of guys out for a walk one night and decided they’d go kill some Americans," she shouted. "What difference – at this point, what difference does it make?"

During the televised proceedings yesterday, Clinton, one of America’s most accomplished sociopaths, alternated largely between looking thoughtful or bored. Her pulse probably never got above 85, even at the height of the richly deserved tongue-lashing she received from Republican lawmakers. Like another famous sociopath whose surname she shares, Hillary simply adores arguing and lawyering.

She lives for it and has at least since she was fired from the House Judiciary Committee during its investigation of the Watergate scandal that eventually brought down President Richard M. Nixon in 1974. Hillary’s then-supervisor, lifelong Democrat Jerry Zeifman, said he canned the 27-year-old attorney “because she was a liar … an unethical, dishonest lawyer. She conspired to violate the Constitution, the rules of the House, the rules of the committee and the rules of confidentiality.”

No lie is too big or too small for Hillary, whether it’s a concocted tale of being under enemy fire at an airport in Bosnia, the existence of a “vast right-wing conspiracy” to undermine her husband’s presidency, that she was named after Mt. Everest climber Sir Edmund Hillary even though he rocketed to fame by accomplishing the feat when she was a six-year-old, or that the Clintons were “dead broke” when they exited the White House.

Meanwhile, at the Thursday hearing, Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) demolished Clinton's apparently fresh assertion at the hearing that she didn't actually claim an obscure anti-Islam movie trailer posted on YouTube prompted the terrorist assault in Benghazi on the eleventh anniversary of the 9/11 attacks. She now takes a more nuanced, twisted-like-a-pretzel position in which maybe some non-terrorist Muslims were suddenly stirred to violence in Libya by the video, but really at the same time it was a terrorist attack, something she testified Thursday has been her position the whole time. She talked about the video publicly not to point fingers but as a warning, she testified, to those who might attack U.S. interests in the region. In other words, like a good defense lawyer, Hillary was trying to confuse the issues and muddy the waters.

Clinton, who seems able to function just fine with what must be chronic cognitive dissonance, said minutes before Jordan's question:

I referred to the video that night in a very specific way. I said some have sought to justify the attack because of the video. I used those words deliberately, not to ascribe a motive to every attacker but as a warning to those across the region that there was no justification for further attacks.

Jordan fired back:

We want to know the truth. The statement you sent out was a statement on Benghazi and you say vicious behavior as a response to inflammatory material on the Internet. If that's not pointing as the motive of being a video, I don't know what is. And that's certainly what -- and that's certainly how the American people saw it.

While she was informing the American public that the anti-Islam video was what caused the attack, at the same time she emailed her daughter Chelsea and the governments of Libya and Egypt to pin the blame on Muslim militants, Jordan explained. Around the same time the White House, in the closing weeks of a heated presidential election campaign, was pushing the line that what transpired in Benghazi was a spontaneous demonstration turned violent, but terrorism was not a factor.

"We know that the attack in Libya had nothing to do with the film," Clinton wrote Egypt's prime minister the night of the attack. "It was a planned attack, not a protest." But in public Clinton continued to blame the "offensive" video. The U.S. government acquired $80,000 worth of commercial airtime in Pakistan to apologize for the YouTube clip.

Jordan pointed out that there was no video-inspired protest over in Benghazi on Sept. 11, 2012, but there was one in Cairo, Egypt. The same day State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland said "Benghazi has been attacked by militants. In Cairo, police have removed demonstrators."

So, in "Benghazi, you got weapons and explosions," he said. In "Cairo, you got spray paint and rocks." The congressman continued:

One hour before the attack in Benghazi, Chris Stevens walks a diplomat to the front gate. The ambassador didn't report a demonstration. He didn't report it because it never happened. An eyewitness in the command center that night on the ground said no protest, no demonstration; two intelligence reports that day, no protest, no demonstration.

The Benghazi attack, Jordan said, began at 3:42 p.m. Eastern time and ended around 11:40 p.m. that evening. He continued:

At 4:06, an ops alert goes out across the State Department. It says this, "Mission under attack, armed men, shots fired, explosions heard." No mention of video, no mention of a protest, no mention of a demonstration. But the best evidence is Greg Hicks, the number two guy in Libya, the guy who worked side by side with Ambassador Stevens. He was asked, if there had been a protest, would the ambassador have reported it? Mr. Hicks's response, "Absolutely." For there to have been a demonstration on Chris Stevens' front door and him not to have reported it is unbelievable ... and if it had been reported, he would have been out the back door within minutes and there was a back gate.

"Everything," Jordan said, "points to a terrorist attack ... and yet five days later Susan Rice goes on five TV shows and she says this, 'Benghazi was a spontaneous reaction as a consequence of a video,' a statement we all know is false." Rice was "off the reservation," according to State Department experts in the agency's Near Eastern Affairs bureau.

"So if there's no evidence for a video-inspired protest, then where did the false narrative start? It started with you, Madam Secretary," he said. At 10:08 p.m. while the attack was still in progress, Clinton released a statement insinuating that a video inspired the assault. "Some have sought to justify the vicious behavior as a response to inflammatory material posted on the Internet," it read.

Benghazi Select Committee Chairman Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.) tried to drive home the point that interest in the Benghazi saga has long been a bipartisan affair in the U.S. Congress. “The House of Representatives, including some Democrats I hasten to add, asked this committee to write the final accounting of what happened in Benghazi.”

But previous congressional investigations, he added, were a joke.

Gowdy stressed that his committee is the “first committee” to go through more than 50,000 pages of documents, “to thoroughly and individually interview scores of other witnesses, many of them for the first time,” “to demand access to relevant documents from the CIA, the FBI, the Department Of Defense and even the White House,” and “to demand access to the emails to and from Ambassador Chris Stevens.”

He added, “How could an investigation possibly be considered serious without reviewing the emails of the person most knowledgeable about Libya?”

The committee was the “first” and “only” panel “to uncover the fact that Secretary Clinton exclusively used personal email on her own personal server for official business and kept the public record, including e-mails about Benghazi and Libya, in her own custody and control for almost two years after she left office.”

Gowdy impugned the motives of the Accountability Review Board that began studying the Benghazi debacle soon after it happened, noting that Clinton name-dropped the panel an astonishing 70 times in previous congressional testimony. That sham investigation was headed by former Ambassador Thomas R. Pickering, a useful idiot for Islam who is spending his twilight years crusading against the so-called Islamophobia that infects the ignorant bigots and rubes across the fruited plain who irrationally fear the benign Muslim religion.

Noting that the members of the ARB were “hand-picked” by State Department leadership, Gowdy said:

The ARB never interviewed Secretary Clinton. The ARB never reviewed her emails. And Secretary Clinton's top adviser was allowed to review and suggest changes to the ARB before the public ever saw it. There's no transcript of ARB interviews. So, it's impossible to know whether all relevant questions were asked and answered. Because there's no transcript, it is also impossible to cite the ARB interviews with any particularity at all.

The ARB’s work is “not independent” and not an example of accountability, he said. It is “not a serious investigation.” And if “previous congressional investigations were really serious and thorough, how did they miss Ambassador Stevens' emails?” and “why did they fail to interview dozens of key State Department witnesses, including agents on the ground who experienced the attacks firsthand?”

On the eve of the Thursday hearing, Democratic members of the Select Committee released a so-called full transcript from an official interview with Cheryl Mills, who served as counselor and Chief of Staff to Clinton at the Department of State. Democrats claimed they acted at "to correct the public record after numerous out-of-context and misleading Republican leaks.” Democrats must have calculated that the testimony of a longtime Clinton crony would somehow have an exculpatory effect from which her presidential campaign would benefit.

But not all of the Democratic Party's press release writers -- outside the mainstream media, that is -- are gifted, antisocial, Alinskyite liars of Hillary's caliber. Clinton usually can at least keep the lies more or less straight in her head, and like her husband, treats parsing as bloodsport, while engaging in at times brutally effective misdirection and superficially plausible semantic contortions.

The press release accompanying the 307-page document boasts that it is a “full transcript of the Select Committee’s interview with former State Department Chief of Staff Cheryl Mills,” but is it really? It contradicts itself a few sentences later, describing the document as mere “excerpts of Ranking Member Cummings questioning Ms. Mills[.]” This wording suggests that only one lawmaker – a grandstanding, media-savvy, hyper-partisan Democrat on a Republican-controlled panel – questioned Mills at the hearing. It is very hard to believe not even one Republican wanted to take a shot at Mills.

But it is much easier to believe that Democratic congressional staffers aimed to score political points for releasing Mills's entire testimony when it reality they cherry-picked only the parts that put Clinton in the most favorable light.

The press release claims that the transcript provides “significant evidence that Secretary Clinton was deeply engaged during and after the attacks and took action to ensure the safety and security of U.S. personnel, even as intelligence assessments of the attacks changed more than once during this period.”

“Republicans are spending millions of taxpayer dollars on a partisan campaign to damage Secretary Clinton’s bid for president,” Ranking Member Elijah Cummings (D-Md.) was quoted as saying.

No doubt he was referring to House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy’s (R-Ca.) uber-gaffe earlier this month that ended his run to replace outgoing Speaker of the House John Boehner (R-Ohio). Many drew an inference from McCarthy’s comments that congressional Republicans were trying to torpedo Clinton’s presidential campaign at the expense of the truth. "Everybody thought Hillary Clinton was unbeatable," McCarthy told Sean Hannity. "But we put together a Benghazi special committee, a select committee. What are her numbers today? Her numbers are dropping."

In the end, conservative commentator Erick Erickson shrugged, calling the Benghazi hearing "a waste of time because everything about it is politicized and nothing is going to happen. There will be no scalp collection."

He continued: "Mrs. Clinton is far too bright to be trapped in this or any questions." Although she has gotten flustered under questioning, such incidents will "make her a martyr to her own side ... Democratic voters are not going to reject Mrs. Clinton even if she were to admit that she had flown to Benghazi and joined Al Qaeda in the attack."

Given the Hillary mania that grips so much of the Democratic Party and some leftists' positively morbid craving to put a woman in the Oval Office at all costs, Erickson may have a bit of a point.

And if Republican congressional leadership continues with the same old lackadaisical, self-sabotaging approach in which the white flag is waved before the first shot has been fired, the Benghazi committee won't accomplish much apart from generating revenue for fundraising consultants on both sides of the aisle.

The disturbing likelihood that Hillary Clinton will get away with her crimes remains, regardless of how noble, inspiring, and determined to get at the truth Benghazi Select Committee Chairman Trey Gowdy may be.
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Re: Bottom Line: Hillary Lied & Allowed 4 Americans to be Murdered...
« Reply #776 on: October 23, 2015, 11:30:43 AM »
quote author=objectivist1
Four pinocchios for the pantsuit.

"We know that the attack in Libya
had nothing to do with the film,"
Clinton wrote Egypt's prime minister the night of the attack.
"It was a planned attack, not a protest."

Unbelievable.


Most specific is what Susan Rice said at the direction of Obama and Clinton teams, 5 DAYS LATER:

ABC, This Week:
it was a spontaneous — not a premeditated — response to what had transpired in Cairo.
In Cairo, as you know, a few hours earlier, there was a violent protest that was undertaken
in reaction to this very offensive video that was disseminated.

CBS, Face the Nation:
sparked by this hateful video

Fox News Sunday:
"it was a spontaneous reaction to what had just transpired in Cairo
as a consequence of the video"

NBC, Meet the Press:
"what happened in Benghazi was in fact initially a spontaneous reaction to what had just transpired hours before in Cairo,
almost a copycat of– of the demonstrations against our facility in Cairo,
which were prompted, of course, by the video

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2012/11/16/flashback-what-susan-rice-said-about-benghazi/

Obama on CBS Letterman regarding Benghazi attack:
Here's what happened. ... You had a video that was released
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2012/11/30/what_the_president_said_about_benghazi_116299.html#ixzz3pPxz9CDh

Clinton blames the video, watch:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BQGMzmzcd0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0d__S8nEqW0

The video that Hillary and Obama blamed had 300 views at the time.


Chris, Just tell us if you need more security...
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Re: Bottom Line: Hillary Lied & Allowed 4 Americans to be Murdered...
« Reply #777 on: October 23, 2015, 11:40:05 AM »
http://freebeacon.com/national-security/hannity-plays-montage-of-obama-administration-members-falsely-blaming-video-for-benghazi-attack/


quote author=objectivist1
Four pinocchios for the pantsuit.

"We know that the attack in Libya
had nothing to do with the film,"
Clinton wrote Egypt's prime minister the night of the attack.
"It was a planned attack, not a protest."

Unbelievable.


Most specific is what Susan Rice said at the direction of Obama and Clinton teams, 5 DAYS LATER:

ABC, This Week:
it was a spontaneous — not a premeditated — response to what had transpired in Cairo.
In Cairo, as you know, a few hours earlier, there was a violent protest that was undertaken
in reaction to this very offensive video that was disseminated.

CBS, Face the Nation:
sparked by this hateful video

Fox News Sunday:
"it was a spontaneous reaction to what had just transpired in Cairo
as a consequence of the video"

NBC, Meet the Press:
"what happened in Benghazi was in fact initially a spontaneous reaction to what had just transpired hours before in Cairo,
almost a copycat of– of the demonstrations against our facility in Cairo,
which were prompted, of course, by the video

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2012/11/16/flashback-what-susan-rice-said-about-benghazi/

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Two piles of emails
« Reply #778 on: October 23, 2015, 03:40:07 PM »

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Re: The Hillbillary Clintons long, sordid, and often criminal history
« Reply #779 on: October 24, 2015, 04:37:09 AM »
"If there was an organized system discovered for unmarking classified material, heads will roll"

Maybe but it won't be hers.  The fix is in.

Biden out.  IRS investigation ended with "no evidence" of criminal wrongdoing and announced Friday evening.

Just like the Copyright office.  No evidence of any criminal wrong doing.  Just mistakes or incompetence.  And advice from one of my attorneys to be careful what I say about Federal Officials.

And I agree with Doug.  It is all about the lying more than anything else.  She never seems to have to pay a price for lying.   Just keep promising those checks and smile and everything is hunky dory.   All in one day.

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« Reply #780 on: October 24, 2015, 06:49:08 AM »
Just one additional thought.   When ever she gets herself into trouble she may as well simply come out and tell the electorate not to worry.  Just elect her and the checks will keep coming and women will all get raises and promotions the very first day of her office.   (the first true thing she will probably ever say)   But add the lie that if she doesn't get elected everyone will be on bread lines because of the evil American Nazis - the Republicans.

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« Reply #781 on: October 24, 2015, 07:01:35 AM »
Just 1 more additional thought  :-D

At this point the Republicans should hit the airways with guns blazing and exclaim your damn right we needed to grill HC and expose her dishonesty.  The Benghazi committee did it's duty (while the media does not) in holding a Sec of St and representing the WH accountable for lying about an attack on Americans just before an election.  

Fight back!   Stop being wishy washy and  grudgingly agree with the leftist media with "well we didn't learn anything new".


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Re: Hillary's dishonesty...
« Reply #782 on: October 24, 2015, 08:20:18 AM »
The Republican Party leadership is too damn scared of "media backlash" if they attack any Democrat - Hillary and Obama included.  These kind of punch-backs will ONLY occur if a candidate willing to speak plainly gets the Rep. nomination - a.k.a. Trump or Cruz - maybe Carson.  They certainly won't get any backup from the party leadership.  They will have to go it alone and lead by example.  I believe that if the candidate does this - he/she will crush Hillary at the polls.
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Re: Hillary's dishonesty...
« Reply #783 on: October 24, 2015, 01:38:41 PM »
The Republican Party leadership is too damn scared of "media backlash" if they attack any Democrat - Hillary and Obama included.  These kind of punch-backs will ONLY occur if a candidate willing to speak plainly gets the Rep. nomination - a.k.a. Trump or Cruz - maybe Carson.  They certainly won't get any backup from the party leadership.  They will have to go it alone and lead by example.  I believe that if the candidate does this - he/she will crush Hillary at the polls.

It should not only be partisan Republicans who are offended by the dishonesty and corruption of elected Democrats..

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Re: Hillary's dishonesty...
« Reply #784 on: October 24, 2015, 01:54:40 PM »
The Republican Party leadership is too damn scared of "media backlash" if they attack any Democrat - Hillary and Obama included.  These kind of punch-backs will ONLY occur if a candidate willing to speak plainly gets the Rep. nomination - a.k.a. Trump or Cruz - maybe Carson.  They certainly won't get any backup from the party leadership.  They will have to go it alone and lead by example.  I believe that if the candidate does this - he/she will crush Hillary at the polls.

It should not only be partisan Republicans who are offended by the dishonesty and corruption of elected Democrats..

But it is.

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« Reply #785 on: October 24, 2015, 02:38:30 PM »
Exactly.  Democrats simply don't care - which they are proving in the polls.  There really isn't any such thing as a "conservative Democrat" anymore.  There are damn few conservative Republicans, but at least they exist.
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Re: The Hillbillary Clintons - "Victory Lap"
« Reply #788 on: October 26, 2015, 08:37:35 AM »
Slate:
"Hillary Clinton takes a well-deserved post-Benghazi victory lap at the DNC’s Women’s Leadership Forum"

Jame Taranto:  "Chris Stevens could not be reached for comment" 

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« Reply #789 on: October 26, 2015, 08:44:09 AM »
"well-deserved"  my ass.

The feminists seem to have major control over many of the media outlets.  Every female on CNN with the smirks anytime they have a Republican guest and subtle nods of agreement every time they have someone on with the left wing propaganda.

 

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Re: The Hillbillary Clinton investigation, 'Nothing new was learned' ?
« Reply #790 on: October 26, 2015, 12:31:33 PM »
"well-deserved"  my ass.
The feminists seem to have major control over many of the media outlets.  Every female on CNN with the smirks anytime they have a Republican guest and subtle nods of agreement every time they have someone on with the left wing propaganda.


The answer to the charge made by mainstream media personalities and partisan Democrats (I repeat myself)  - that nothing new was learned after x million spent and x years wasted in the Benghazi hearings is this:

Are you saying we already knew she is a pathological liar?

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« Reply #791 on: October 26, 2015, 12:50:41 PM »
Yes, precisely - in the same manner that we knew Ted Kennedy committed manslaughter and got away with it, and the press didn't seem to care.  Hillary was fired by a life-long Democrat from the Watergate investigation committee for lying and trying to subvert rules.  He called her "explicitly dishonest."  That was when she was 27.

As Rush Limbaugh likes to say: "Scandals and illicit affairs are 'resume enhancements' for Democrats in the media's eyes."  Republicans are crucified for the same offenses.
No where is this more evident than in  Bob Woodward's disgusting appearance on "Fox News Sunday" yesterday, in which he maintained that notwithstanding the fact that Hillary lied, "there is no criminal activity here, and frankly, she got away with all this and Democrats don't care."  He said this with a wry smile, as if to say "So fuck you, Republican Party.  We have our double-standard, and we'll continue to enforce it.  It matters not a whit that Richard Nixon was forced from office for something that pales in comparison to the Clinton's scandals."
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« Reply #792 on: October 26, 2015, 02:34:42 PM »
objectivist,

" Bob Woodward's disgusting appearance on "Fox News Sunday" yesterday, in which he maintained that notwithstanding the fact that Hillary lied, "there is no criminal activity here, and frankly, she got away with all this and Democrats don't care."

Really?    Are you sure it was Bob Woodward and not the far worse one Carl Bernstein?

I am very surprised that Woodward would state there is no criminal activity with her destruction of evidence (emails) and obstruction of justice that any reasonable jury member could agree with.
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« Reply #793 on: October 26, 2015, 03:27:47 PM »
CCP - I know what I saw and heard.

Here is the transcript:

WALLACE:  Are you surprised that not a single Democrat on that committee had a single pointed question for Clinton about the very real issue about what happened in Benghazi? 

WOODWARD:  Well, Watergate was about a series of crimes, well established.  And so, it was the Republicans who eventually turned on Nixon, and it was a bipartisan inquiry.  Here, it’s not.  It clearly is partisan.  And, you know, look—

WALLACE:  But the death of those four Americans isn’t partisan. 

WOODWARD:  No—and there are legitimate questions here. 

WALLACE:  But they didn’t ask them. 

WOODWARD:  Yes.  Well, but here’s the issue.  You have inconsistencies.  But there—this is a tragedy.  And it should be investigated.  You’re right.  And she should answer.  And, you know, she did or attempted to answer all of those questions.  But there’s no crime here on her part.  And to try to criminalize this or suggest, as some people have said, oh, she’ll be in jail.  There’s no evidence of a crime.  There is evidence of inconsistency.  I mean, my God, this is our business, our lives.  People saying one thing privately and saying something different publicly. 


Read more at http://www.newshounds.us/bob_woodward_smacks_down_fox_news_benghazi_is_watergate_meme_102615#YQUEpQSZgisyDssR.99
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« Reply #794 on: October 26, 2015, 04:29:03 PM »
I thought he was above this.  Lying to the public just before an election may not be a crime.  Is it not a crime to lie to a Congressional Committee?    She is not under oath so maybe not.

Nonetheless he is a Democrat after all.  Just like the rest.

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Thomas Sowell: Hillbillary Clintons, right out of the 90s
« Reply #795 on: October 27, 2015, 07:08:42 AM »
Hillary Clinton’s Benghazi Defense Is Straight Out of ’90s Playbook. (I will try to fix format problem)
by THOMAS SOWELL October 27, 2015

Many people may share Senator Bernie Sanders’s complaint that he was tired of hearing about Hillary Clinton’s e-mails. But the controversy is about issues far bigger than e-mails.

One issue is the utter disaster created by the Obama administration’s foreign policy in Libya, carried out by Hillary Clinton as secretary of state.

An even bigger issue is whether high officials of government can ignore the law and refuse to produce evidence when it is subpoenaed. If they can, then the whole separation of powers — the checks and balances in the Constitution — gives way to arbitrary government by corrupt officials who are accountable to no one.

This is not the first time Hillary Clinton has defied the law to cover up what she had done. When Bill Clinton was president, back in the 1990s, both he and Hillary developed the strategy of responding to charges of illegal actions on their part by stalling and stonewalling when either courts or Congress tried to get them to produce documents related to these charges.

Hillary claimed then, as now, that key documents had disappeared. Her more recent claim that many of her e-mails had been deleted was just Hillary 2.0. Only after three years of stalling and stonewalling on her part has the fact finally come out this year that those e-mails could be recovered, and now have been. By this time, however, Hillary and her supporters used another tactic that both Clintons used back in the 1990s — namely, saying that this was old news, stuff that had already been investigated too long, that it was time to “move on.” That was Hillary 1.0. More recently Hillary 2.0 said, melodramatically, “What difference, at this point, does it make?”

One of the things that the former secretary of state was now trying to cover up was the utter disaster of the Obama administration’s foreign policy that she carried out in Libya. Having intervened in Libya to help overthrow the government of Moammar Qaddafi, who was no threat to America’s interests in the Middle East, the Obama administration was confronted with the fact that Qaddafi’s ouster simply threw the country into such chaos that Islamic terrorists were now able to operate freely in Libya.

RELATED: The Benghazi Hearings Confirm Yet Again What a Brazen Liar Hillary Is Just how freely was shown in September 2012, when terrorists stormed the compound in Benghazi where the American ambassador to Libya, Christopher Stevens, was staying. They murdered him and three other Americans who tried to defend him. Moreover, the terrorists did not even have to go into hiding afterwards, and at least one of them was interviewed by journalists. That’s how chaotic Libya had become. Meanwhile, there was an American presidential election campaign in 2012, and Barack Obama was presenting himself to the voters as someone who had defeated al-Qaeda and suppressed the terrorist threat in the Middle East. Obviously the truth about this attack could have totally undermined the image that Obama was trying to project during the election campaign, and perhaps cost him the White House. So a lie was concocted instead. The lie was that the attack was not by terrorists — who supposedly had been suppressed by Obama — but was a spontaneous protest demonstration against an American video insulting Islam, and that protest just got out of control.

Now that Hillary Clinton’s e-mails have finally been recovered and revealed, after three years of stalling and stonewalling, they showed explicitly that she knew from the outset that the attack that killed Ambassador Stevens and others was not a result of some video but was a coordinated terrorist operation. Nevertheless, Hillary 2.0, along with President Obama and national security adviser Susan Rice, told the world in 2012 that the deaths in Benghazi were due to the video, not a terrorist organization that was now operating freely in Libya, thanks to the policy that got rid of the Qaddafi government. Yet that key fact was treated by the media as old news, and what was exciting now was how well Hillary 2.0 outperformed the congressional committee on television. If the corruption and undermining of the American system of Constitutional government eventually costs us our freedom, will the media say, “What difference does it make now?” —

Thomas Sowell is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution, Stanford University. His website is tsowell.com.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/426074/hillary-clinton-benghazi-emails
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« Reply #796 on: October 28, 2015, 05:16:48 AM »
Well summarized by Thomas Sowell.

Yup she is so predictable.

Her guy Lanny Davis even touts himself as a "crises" lawyer now.   He as well as the rest of the mafia gang are back almost in full hitting the airways and driving us on the right nuts with their BS.

They are all going to get wealthy working for her.

WE are going to have to have a candidate that can not only contrast him or her self form this psychopath (as GM puts it - or at least some other kind of personality disordered sicko) but be able to deconstruct her policies and speeches and positions very very carefully because we all know the Clintons have many many people researching every angle of every issue so she can stake a claim to the most popular positions and policies based on polling.

Just saying one disagrees will not be enough.   Unfortunately the Republican leaders don't seem to be able to do this with their nominees.

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« Reply #797 on: October 28, 2015, 08:57:50 AM »
I took the liberty of trying to figure out where paragraphs should go in the Sowell post.

It is a perceptive piece.

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More sleeze
« Reply #798 on: November 04, 2015, 10:17:08 AM »
Mr. Sanders who helped her more than anyone minimize her dishonesty as not important now is a sexist and a gun nut as per one of the sickest and evil individuals to ever run for President:

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2015/11/hillary_clinton_keeps_smearing_bernie_sanders_as_a_sexist_now_she_is_reaching.html

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« Reply #799 on: November 04, 2015, 11:47:41 AM »
Hillary has to be one of the most evil, nasty women on the planet.  She's proven this over the course of her career from the time she was fired for dishonesty while working on the Watergate committee.  The way she has left her husband's female victims to twist in the wind, and even actively worked to destroy them is also illustrative.  That she should claim to be an advocate for women is a sick joke.
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