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Stratfor: India's upcoming elections
« Reply #250 on: March 10, 2019, 04:16:32 PM »


 In the Indian Elections, Voters Will Weigh Jobs Against Security
Supporters hold up flags in support of the Indian National Congress (INC) party during the launch of the party's campaign in Punjab ahead of India’s upcoming elections.

Highlights

    Prime Minister Narendra Modi rode to victory in 2014 on a message of economic prosperity, but given  India's lackluster job creation in recent years, that will be a difficult sell in the next election.
    To fire up support for his re-election, Modi will, therefore, shift the focus of his 2019 campaign to development and national security matters.
    To challenge Modi, India's opposition parties' will attempt to paint him as corrupt, though such tactics will only feed into the prime minister's narrative that the opposition platform lacks substance.
    Regardless of the upcoming election's outcome, however, the next government in New Delhi will be forced to grapple with creating jobs while advancing the country's lagging industrialization.

 

Editor's Note: This assessment is part of a series of analyses supporting Stratfor's upcoming 2019 Second-Quarter Forecast. These assessments are designed to provide more context and in-depth analysis on key developments over the next quarter.

The defining event of the Indian political calendar is just weeks away. By May, over half a billion voters will choose 543 representatives to serve in India's lower house of parliament. The elections, which are the world's largest democratic exercise, will take place over several weeks, and the stakes are high: Narendra Modi, the most powerful Indian prime minister in a generation, is leading his incumbent Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) against a raft of opposition parties under the Indian National Congress (INC) banner, all unifying in a bid to dislodge him from power.

In 2014, the BJP's victory marked the first single-party majority in nearly three decades. And now, the party is looking to set another precedent in Indian politics by achieving successive non-Congress majority governments. But aside from having the INC as its main opponent, the environment that handed the BJP its victory five years ago bears little resemblance to the one it faces in 2019 — this will force Modi to recalibrate his campaign tactics to secure his place in power.
The Big Picture

As India prepares for national elections, Prime Minister Narendra Modi's Bharatiya Janata Party is fending off a tough challenge from nearly two dozen opposition parties unifying in a bid to dislodge him from power. Modi's critics argue that he is prone to corruption and has not done enough to create jobs and boost the economy. The prime minister is countering with the assertion that his mission is not yet complete, while zeroing-in on national security as a critical issue in the upcoming election, which is traditionally a strong point of the BJP's platform. Escalating tensions with Pakistan will give Modi the opportunity he needs to shore up support ahead of the election.

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That Was Then

The BJP owes its historic victory in 2014 to several factors. Numerous corruption allegations against the Indian National Congress (INC), for one, had hobbled the then-ruling party's re-election prospects after a decade in power — thereby widening the BJP's path to New Delhi by playing up an anti-corruption platform.

When it came to the two party leaders, Modi also outshined and outperformed INC President Rahul Gandhi by positioning himself as a stronger and more capable leader. Modi's campaign hinged on the message of economic prosperity — promising to bring his successes as the three-term chief minister of Gujarat, where he oversaw rapid growth and industrialization, to the national level.

Paired with this universally appealing narrative, Modi's humble origins (as the son of a tea seller) also enabled the BJP to expand from its traditional base of urban, upper-caste Hindu voters by rousing the support of more lower-caste voters. A descendant of India's Nehru-Gandhi political dynasty, Rahul Gandhi, by contrast, hailed from a long line of former prime ministers. And next to Modi, he came across as inexperienced and entitled — relying on the prestige of his namesake to win, rather than his wits.

And as a result, the 2014 election yielded a gain of 282 parliamentary seats for the BJP, along with a humiliating loss of 44 seats for the INC — dropping the INC to its lowest-ever seat count after decades as the dominating force in Indian politics.

This Is Now

But a lot has happened since the BJP's rise to power in 2014. And while Rahul Gandhi's critiques against Modi remain pointed, the political landscape otherwise bears little resemblance to the one that led him to his victory five years ago.

In 2014, Modi unveiled his "Make in India" campaign to create millions of jobs and position India as a global manufacturing hub and an attractive investment destination. Getting the campaign to work, however, has proved difficult — bolstering manufacturing jobs is challenging in a country whose lopsided transition from an agricultural-based to a services-driven economy partially skipped over industrialization.

In recent years, India has faced slowing economic growth and labor market deficiencies. With the national unemployment rate at a more than two and a half-year high at 7.2 percent, a recent survey found employment was the top concern among Indian voters. Unsurprisingly, Modi's failure to create jobs as promised represents a core concern for the BJP's election prospects.

In adjusting to this new reality, Modi has focused his 2019 campaign on development and continuity — arguing that the BJP's mission of transforming India's economy remains unfinished and that the party, therefore, deserves another term to see it through. This shift has been evidenced by some of Modi's recent trips in the country, which include inaugurating a hospital in Karnataka; launching national highways in Tamil Nada; announcing a national pension plan in Gujarat; laying the foundation stone for a temple beautification project in Uttar Pradesh; and commencing a refinery expansion project in Bihar.

But in addition to focusing on boosting development in the country, Modi will also zero-in on national security as a critical issue in the upcoming election, which is traditionally a strong point of the BJP's platform. Escalating tensions with Pakistan — which erupted in reciprocal airstrikes between the two countries in February after a militant bombing in Indian-administered Jammu and Kashmir — will give Modi just the opportunity he needs to rally up support ahead of the election by positioning himself as the leader best-suited to defend the nation against Islamabad and other outside threats.

While Modi's candidacy may not be as strong as it was in 2014, he will still prove difficult to beat.

Meanwhile, in an effort to take back the parliament, Rahul Gandhi and his INC party have led a monthslong campaign accusing Modi of impropriety in a French fighter jet deal worth billions. But Modi has largely floated above these allegations of corruption so far — dismissing them as the last-ditch efforts of a desperate opposition party, whose agenda contains little substance beyond a shared disdain for himself and the BJP.

India's 17th Lok Sabha elections nonetheless come at a volatile time in the country, with a rapidly expanding economy that desperately needs to produce more jobs, rising farmer angst as a result of collapsing crop prices, lagging industrialization and increasing social tensions pertaining to religion and caste. And then there is the growing threat of China's expansion into South Asia.

While Modi's candidacy may not be as strong as it was in 2014, he will still prove difficult — but not impossible — to beat. Regardless of who wins the election, though, the next Indian government will inherit a country at a crossroads. New Delhi must balance immense challenges against the tremendous possibilities afforded by a country with India's geopolitical profile. But everything hinges on the effectiveness of India's leadership and the direction the country chooses to take, and that will be decided at the ballot box in the coming weeks.
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Re: India/Indian Ocean (and India-afpakia and India-China)
« Reply #251 on: March 11, 2019, 06:54:18 PM »
It is expected that Modi will form the next government...hard to imagine otherwise.

On the Pak front: Low level hostilities continue, India has so far shot down 4 intruding paki drones. If the pakis mount another terror attack before the elections, things will get interesting.

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« Reply #252 on: March 14, 2019, 04:34:17 PM »
https://www.defenseone.com/ideas/2019/03/what-will-follow-us-withdrawal-afghanistan/155311/
What Will Follow a U.S. Withdrawal from Afghanistan?

BY ABDULKADER SINNO
ASSOCIATE PROFESSOR, INDIANA UNIVERSITY, THE CONVERSATION

MARCH 6, 2019

How did we get here, and what comes next?

The United States and the Taliban may be nearing an agreement to withdraw U.S. troops from Afghanistan after more than 17 years of conflict.

In return, the Taliban would commit to refusing access to anti-American organizations such as al-Qaida on its territory.

How did we get to this point – and what will be the consequences of such an agreement?

As a longtime scholar of Afghanistan’s wars and conflict dynamics, I suggest beginning with a bit of history.

The current conflict began when the Bush administration invaded Afghanistan a few weeks after 9/11.

It was on Afghan soil that Osama bin Laden hatched the plot to attack the U.S. The Taliban, the de facto rulers of much of Afghanistan in the wake of a bloody civil war, had given bin Laden and his supporters shelter.

Two months into the U.S. invasion, Taliban state institutions and defensive positions crumbled and the United States formed new state institutions led by Afghans who had fought the Taliban. The U.S. maintained a limited force to fight and capture al-Qaida and Taliban leaders but otherwise invested little in the Afghan economy or society.

It took the Taliban four years to reconstitute itself as an effective force of insurgents to fight the U.S. and the Afghan government, and they became stronger every year after 2004. As I explain in my research, the United States and the coalition of 42 countries it formed to defeat the resurgent Taliban was poorly organized, abusive and mismanaged.



Since 2001, the U.S.-led coalition has spent US$1 trillion dollars and committed a peak of 140,000 troops and 100,000 contractors to an unsuccessful attempt to defeat the Taliban. More than 5,000 American soldiers and contractors were killed.

Today, a U.S. force of 14,000 troops and massive U.S. Airforce assets are helping maintain the defensive positions of an Afghan government that is widely considered as one of the most corrupt in the world.

The Taliban are making territorial gains and killing hundreds of regime troops each month, and feel that they are on the cusp of victory.

Militias that recruit from the Hazara, Tajik and Uzbek minorities have rearmed in anticipation of the collapse of the regime in Kabul and fear of a coming civil war with the mostly Pushtun Taliban. Afghanistan is nearing an endgame.

What it means for the Taliban
An agreement between the Taliban and the U.S. would be an impressive accomplishment for the Taliban. From their perspective, it would be their reward for fighting the world’s strongest military power to a stalemate.

They already were rewarded by getting to negotiate directly with the United States, as they have always requested, instead of the Afghan regime which they despise. If the negotiations are successful, they would also be getting precisely what they asked for: an American withdrawal.


In return, they are making a commitment to do something they would likely have done anyway. Al-Qaida’s attack on the U.S. caused the Taliban to lose control of Afghanistan for years. They are not likely to risk having to pay that cost again once they regain control of Kabul, even if they don’t sign an agreement.

What it means for the United States
There is little hope for an outright U.S. victory over the Taliban at this point.

The remaining force of 14,000 U.S. troops is mostly meant to shore up Afghan state defenses. It is too small to reverse momentum on the battlefield. An agreement and withdrawal would therefore be attractive for those who value less military spending and stress on the military, including General John Nicholson, the previous commander of the American and NATO forces in Afghanistan.

The agreement, however, could undermine U.S. reputation in ways big and small. The Obama and Trump administrations never reversed a 2002 Bush executive order that added the Taliban to the list of Specially Designated Global Terrorists, but they have simultaneously pleaded with them to negotiate in spite of claims that Washington does not negotiate with terrorists.

It also signals U.S. weakness and inability to fight a dedicated force of insurgents. Militants elsewhere, including Islamic State leaders, could find this lesson instructive. I believe such an agreement may well be remembered as a turning point in America’s ability to successfully project its military power around the Muslim world.

An agreement could also signal that the U.S. is an unreliable ally that abandons those who side with it. The United States is involved in numerous conflicts worldwide in places as diverse as Syria and Somalia, and many of its local allies would logically recalculate their own commitments after witnessing a U.S. disengagement from Afghanistan.

What happens to the Afghan state
As I describe in my book “Organizations at War in Afghanistan,” governments tend to unravel quickly in Afghanistan when foreign support, both military and financial, ceases.

This is precisely what happened after the Soviets withdrew from Afghanistan and stopped their support to the Najib regime in the early 1990s. As I report in greater detail in my book, different regime militias and military units either disintegrated, joined their erstwhile Mujahideen opponents or became independent militias.

Similarly, today’s Afghan state officials at all levels have long hedged their bets by maintaining ties with the Taliban, their nominal opponents and minority militias. If history is any indication, we can expect that entire agencies and units will either fragment or collectively join any of several strongman-led ethnic militias when the rewards of working for the regime stop outweighing the risks of facing the Taliban. Some may even defect to the Taliban. This is expected behavior in dangerous environments such as Afghanistan, where everyone is expected to have a hedging strategy for survival.

Once the state gets pulled in all directions, Afghanistan will likely degenerate into a civil war very similar to the one that the United States interrupted when it invaded in late 2001. Other countries, including Russia, Iran and India will choose sides to back. I estimate that the Taliban, with their dedicated Pakistani and Arab Gulf backers will win that conflict, just like they almost did in 2001. We may very well reach a point where we see the 17-year American occupation as merely a futile, bloody and costly interruption of the Afghan civil war.

I consider a U.S.-Taliban agreement to be no more than a face-saving measure to conclude a failed and costly American military intervention. If there is a useful lesson to be learned from this misadventure, it is that leaders of even the world’s mightiest military power need to reconsider the merits of a militarized foreign policy in the Muslim world. U.S. military interventions are stoking resentment and inflaming a perpetual transnational insurgency across Muslim countries. If it doesn’t change its course, the U.S. may very well suffer more defeats such as the one in Afghanistan and will cause even more hurt and damage in other countries along the way.



Abdulkader Sinno is an associate prof

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« Reply #253 on: March 14, 2019, 05:27:59 PM »
A major step in the death of the west.

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« Reply #254 on: March 15, 2019, 08:25:06 AM »
Ya,  Good article.  This was quite a bad experience for the US.  I wonder what was learned.

"the United States and the coalition of 42 countries it formed to defeat the resurgent Taliban was poorly organized, abusive and mismanaged."

The US has its reputation damaged.  I wonder how the other 41 countries are doing.

Maybe some of these wars are not winnable.  We have the power to knock out certain centralized powers like Saddam, Khadafy.  We don't have the power to make them western democracies.  We don't have the stomach to either cause or take casualties.  What we really wanted was for the Al Qaida, bin Laden attacks to stop and that was at least partly accomplished.

We don't want to conquer or rule anyone anywhere and maybe that is what makes these wars unwinnable. 

Very bizarre to read that the US and Taliban are negotiating a treaty.  Other than surrender/withdrawal, what can that mean.  Still it likely is time to step back.  Is there a leave behind force?  Did we gain a base to attack harboring of future terrorists?  Do we even want a continued presence or are we better to give them no American targets to shoot and bomb?  Drone and other technologies have changed since the start of the (American) Afghan war.

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« Reply #255 on: March 15, 2019, 08:57:40 AM »
The lesson to the global jihad and others, such as China is that even with atrocities inflicted on the US Homeland, the US lacks the will to win.


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« Reply #256 on: March 15, 2019, 11:10:25 AM »
This particular convo should be in the Afpakia thread , , ,

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« Reply #257 on: March 20, 2019, 07:05:06 PM »
There is still  lot of shelling etc going at the Indo-Pak border, heavy guns are being used. Internet is still down in Pak border areas, trying to hide news of the casualties. All's not well.

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« Reply #258 on: March 20, 2019, 07:45:39 PM »
There is still  lot of shelling etc going at the Indo-Pak border, heavy guns are being used. Internet is still down in Pak border areas, trying to hide news of the casualties. All's not well.

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« Reply #259 on: March 27, 2019, 05:33:40 PM »
There is something odd going on in Pak. Rumors have it that they shot down their own JF-17 in error,  in the Multan area which they had cordoned off for a while. They are also getting beat up badly in several areas in cross border shelling. Interestingly, in this phase neither Pak nor GOI is claiming anything.

On to the facts...India yesterday joined the club of nations with the demonstrable ability to shoot down space satellites
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/india-shoots-into-star-wars-club/articleshow/68605713.cms

https://indianexpress.com/article/explained/pokharan-parallel-capability-was-there-but-why-test-was-key-5646174/

This was done at an altitude (low earth orbit) of 300 km, which allows the space debris to burn off as it enters back into earth. Interestingly, there is little if any mention of this in the western media. When China did it some years ago, there was a huge hue and cry.



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« Reply #260 on: March 27, 2019, 09:40:38 PM »
Stratfor and GPF mentioned it, but I haven't had the time to post.

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« Reply #261 on: March 27, 2019, 11:06:02 PM »


This was done at an altitude (low earth orbit) of 300 km, which allows the space debris to burn off as it enters back into earth. Interestingly, there is little if any mention of this in the western media. When China did it some years ago, there was a huge hue and cry.

I don't there are many in the west that see India as a threat, as opposed to China.

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GPF: Suspicious activity near Bhutan border
« Reply #262 on: April 03, 2019, 09:37:29 AM »
Suspicious activity near the China-Bhutan border. Satellite imagery obtained by Indian news portal The Print reportedly shows new construction activity by the Chinese military near the contentious Doklam plateau. In 2017, the Indian and Chinese militaries engaged in a 72-day standoff in Doklam. According to the report, permanent structures shown in the images could serve as storage, parking or accommodations. There is also a newly constructed unpaved road leading to the structures, located just 1 mile (1.6 kilometers) from the border. There was also speculation that one of the structures may be a helicopter hanger, though no support structures have been identified. More activity was observed in Cona County, near the border in eastern Bhutan. Here, China is reportedly constructing a series of roads and bridges for transport of goods or troops stationed in the area. The report said troops numbering more than a battalion were stationed there and a tunneling facility was possibly being upgraded.

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« Reply #263 on: April 06, 2019, 06:43:24 AM »


Why America Needs New Alliances
The international order of the Cold War era no longer makes sense. But the world can’t do without U.S. leadership. Here’s a better approach.
By Yoram Hazony and
Ofir Haivry
April 5, 2019 6:30 p.m. ET
A joint U.S.-Indian army exercise in India, April 6, 2004. Photo: RAVEENDRAN/AFP/Getty Images

President Trump is often accused of creating a needless rift with America’s European allies. The secretary-general of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, Jens Stoltenberg, expressed a different view Thursday when he told a joint session of Congress: “Allies must spend more on defense—this has been the clear message from President Trump, and this message is having a real impact.”

Mr. Stoltenberg’s remarks reflect a growing recognition that strategic and economic realities demand a drastic change in the way the U.S. conducts foreign policy. The unwanted cracks in the Atlantic alliance are primarily a consequence of European leaders, especially in Germany and France, wishing to continue living in a world that no longer exists. The U.S. cannot serve as the enforcer for the Europeans’ beloved “rules-based international order” any more. Even in the 1990s, it was doubtful the U.S. could indefinitely guarantee the security of all nations, paying for George H.W. Bush’s “new world order” principally with American soldiers’ lives and American taxpayers’ dollars.

Today a $22 trillion national debt and the voting public’s indifference to the dreams of world-wide liberal empire have depleted Washington’s ability to wage pricey foreign wars. At a time of escalating troubles at home, America’s estimated 800 overseas bases in 80 countries are coming to look like a bizarre misallocation of resources. And the U.S. is politically fragmented to an extent unseen in living memory, with uncertain implications in the event of a major war.

This explains why the U.S. has not sent massive, Iraq-style expeditionary forces to defend Ukraine’s integrity or impose order in Syria. If there’s trouble on Estonia’s border with Russia, would the U.S. have the will to deploy tens of thousands of soldiers on an indefinite mission 85 miles from St. Petersburg? Although Estonia joined NATO in 2004, the certainties of 15 years ago have broken down.

On paper, America has defense alliances with dozens of countries. But these are the ghosts of a rivalry with the Soviet Union that ended three decades ago, or the result of often reckless policies adopted after 9/11. These so-called allies include Turkey and Pakistan, which share neither America’s values nor its interests, and cooperate with the U.S. only when it serves their purposes. Other “allies” refuse to develop a significant capacity for self-defense, and are thus more accurately regarded as American dependencies or protectorates.

Liberal internationalists are right about one thing, however: America cannot simply turn its back on the world. Pearl Harbor and 9/11 demonstrated that the U.S. can and will be targeted on its own soil. An American strategic posture aimed at minimizing the danger from rival powers needs to focus on deterring Russia and China from wars of expansion; weakening China relative to the U.S. and thereby preventing it from attaining dominance over the world economy; and keeping smaller hostile powers such as North Korea and Iran from obtaining the capacity to attack America or other democracies.

To attain these goals, the U.S. will need a new strategy that is far less costly than anything previous administrations contemplated. Mr. Trump has taken a step in the right direction by insisting that NATO allies “pay their fair share” of the budget for defending Europe, increasing defense spending to 2% of gross domestic product in accordance with NATO treaty obligations.

But this framing of the issue doesn’t convey the problem’s true nature or its severity. The real issue is that the U.S. can no longer afford to assume responsibility for defending entire regions if the people living in them aren’t willing and able to build up their own credible military deterrent.

The U.S. has a genuine interest, for example, in preventing the democratic nations of Eastern Europe from being absorbed into an aggressive Russian imperial state. But the principal interested parties aren’t Americans. The members of the Visegrád Group—the Czech Republic, Hungary, Poland and Slovakia—have a combined population of 64 million and a 2017 GDP of $2 trillion (about 50% of Russia’s, according to CIA estimates). The principal strategic question is therefore whether these countries are willing to do what is necessary to maintain their own national independence. If they are—at a cost that could well exceed the 2% figure devised by NATO planners—then they could eventually shed their dependent status and come to the table as allies of the kind the U.S. could actually use: strong frontline partners in deterring Russian expansion.

The same is true in other regions. Rather than carelessly accumulate dependencies, the U.S. must ask where it can develop real allies—countries that share its commitment to a world of independent nations, pursue democratic self-determination (although not necessarily liberalism) at home, and are willing to pay the price for freedom by taking primary responsibility for their own defense and shouldering the human and economic costs involved.

Nations that demonstrate a commitment to these shared values and a willingness to fight when necessary should benefit from relations that may include the supply of advanced armaments and technologies, diplomatic cover in dealing with shared enemies, preferred partnership in trade, scientific and academic cooperation, and the joint development of new technologies. Fair-weather friends and free-riding dependencies should not.

Perhaps the most important candidate for such a strategic alliance is India. Long a dormant power afflicted by poverty, socialism and an ideology of “nonalignment,” India has become one of the world’s largest and fastest-expanding economies. In contrast to the political oppression of the Chinese communist model, India has succeeded in retaining much of its religious conservatism while becoming an open and diverse country—by far the world’s most populous democracy—with a solid parliamentary system at both the federal and state levels. India is threatened by Islamist terrorism, aided by neighboring Pakistan; as well as by rapidly increasing Chinese influence, emanating from the South China Sea, the Pakistani port of Gwadar, and Djibouti, in the Horn of Africa, where the Chinese navy has established its first overseas base.

India’s values, interests and growing wealth could establish an Indo-American alliance as the central pillar of a new alignment of democratic national states in Asia, including a strengthened Japan and Australia. But New Delhi remains suspicious of American intentions, and with good reason: Rather than unequivocally bet on an Indian partnership, the U.S. continues to play all sides, haphazardly switching from confrontation to cooperation with China, and competing with Beijing for influence in fanaticism-ridden Pakistan. The rationalizations for these counterproductive policies tend to focus on Pakistan’s supposed logistical contributions to the U.S. war in Afghanistan—an example of how tactical considerations and the demands of bogus allies can stand in the way of meeting even the most pressing strategic needs.

A similar confusion characterizes America’s relationship with Turkey. A U.S. ally during the Cold War, Turkey is now an expansionist Islamist power that has assisted the Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas, al Qaeda and even ISIS; threatened Greece and Cyprus; sought Russian weapons; and recently expressed its willingness to attack U.S. forces in Syria. In reality, Turkey is no more an ally than Russia or China. Yet its formal status as the second-largest military in NATO guarantees that the alliance will continue to be preoccupied with pretense and make-believe, rather than the interests of democratic nations. Meanwhile, America’s most reliable Muslim allies, the Kurds, live under constant threat of Turkish invasion and massacre.

The Middle East is a difficult region, in which few players share American values and interests, although all of them—including Turkey, Iraq, Egypt, Saudi Arabia and even Iran—are willing to benefit from U.S. arms, protection or cash. Here too Washington should seek alliances with national states that share at least some key values and are willing to shoulder most of the burden of defending themselves while fighting to contain Islamist radicalism. Such natural regional allies include Greece, Israel, Ethiopia and the Kurds.

A central question for a revitalized alliance of democratic nations is which way the winds will blow in Western Europe. For a generation after the Berlin Wall’s fall in 1989, U.S. administrations seemed willing to take responsibility for Europe’s security indefinitely. European elites grew accustomed to the idea that perpetual peace was at hand, devoting themselves to turning the EU into a borderless utopia with generous benefits for all.

But Europe has been corrupted by its dependence on the U.S. Germany, the world’s fifth-largest economic power (with a GDP larger than Russia’s), cannot field more than a handful of operational combat aircraft, tanks or submarines. Yet German leaders steadfastly resist American pressure for substantial increases in their country’s defense capabilities, telling interlocutors that the U.S. is ruining a beautiful friendship.

None of this is in America’s interest—and not only because the U.S. is stuck with the bill. When people live detached from reality, they develop all sorts of fanciful theories about how the world works. For decades, Europeans have been devising “transnationalist” fantasies to explain how their own supposed moral virtues, such as their rejection of borders, have brought them peace and prosperity. These ideas are then exported to the U.S. and the rest of the democratic world via international bodies, universities, nongovernmental organizations, multinational corporations and other channels. Having subsidized the creation of a dependent socialist paradise in Europe, the U.S. now has to watch as the EU’s influence washes over America and other nations.

For the moment, it is hard to see Germany or Spain becoming American allies in the new, more realistic sense of the term we have proposed. France is a different case, maintaining significant military capabilities and a willingness to deploy them at times. But the governments of these and other Western European countries remain ideologically committed to transferring ever-greater powers to international bodies and to the concomitant degradation of national independence. That doesn’t make them America’s enemies, but neither are they partners in defending values such as national self-determination. It is difficult to foresee circumstances under which they would be willing or able to arm themselves in keeping with the actual security needs of an emerging alliance of independent democratic nations.

The prospects are better with respect to Britain, whose defense spending is already significantly higher, and whose public asserted a desire to regain independence in the Brexit referendum of 2016. With a population of more than 65 million and a GDP of $3 trillion (75% of Russia’s), the U.K. may yet become a principal partner in a leaner but more effective security architecture for the democratic world.

Isolationists are also right about one thing: The U.S. cannot be, and should not try to be, the world’s policeman. Yet it does have a role to play in awakening democratic nations from their dependence-induced torpor, and assisting those that are willing to make the transition to a new security architecture based on self-determination and self-reliance. An alliance including the U.S., the U.K. and the frontline Eastern European nations, as well as India, Israel, Japan and Australia, among others, would be strong enough to exert sustained pressure on China, Russia and hostile Islamist groups.

Helping these democratic nations become self-reliant regional actors would reduce America’s security burden, permitting it to close far-flung military installations and making American military intervention the exception rather than the rule. At the same time, it would free American resources for the long struggle to deny China technological superiority, as well as for unforeseen emergencies that are certain to arise.

Mr. Hazony is author of “The Virtue of Nationalism.” Mr. Haivry is vice president of the Herzl Institute in Jerusalem.

Appeared in the April 6, 2019, print edition.

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« Reply #264 on: April 07, 2019, 08:00:35 AM »
Very true......in recent times, the US has become more aligned with India, not only because Trump has called recognized the duplicity of the pakis, but mostly because the US realizes that dealing with China is not an easy task. As the US cuts its role in Afghanistan, I expect the importance of the pakis to decrease and support to India vis a vis China to increase.

"India’s values, interests and growing wealth could establish an Indo-American alliance as the central pillar of a new alignment of democratic national states in Asia, including a strengthened Japan and Australia. But New Delhi remains suspicious of American intentions, and with good reason: Rather than unequivocally bet on an Indian partnership, the U.S. continues to play all sides, haphazardly switching from confrontation to cooperation with China, and competing with Beijing for influence in fanaticism-ridden Pakistan. The rationalizations for these counterproductive policies tend to focus on Pakistan’s supposed logistical contributions to the U.S. war in Afghanistan—an example of how tactical considerations and the demands of bogus allies can stand in the way of meeting even the most pressing strategic needs."

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GPF: India needs infrastructure along Chinese Border
« Reply #265 on: April 15, 2019, 08:45:51 AM »


The India-China border. At an army commanders’ meeting last week, India’s top military leaders said the country urgently needed to develop infrastructure along the Chinese border, particularly along the Line of Actual Control. The commanders discussed building a road that runs parallel to the LAC in Jammu and Kashmir state, fortifying bridges in Sikkim state to support tank and artillery transport, and constructing tunnels for the transport of fuel, oil and ammunition in Himachal Pradesh and Arunachal Pradesh. The military also wants to improve railways, and plans to station half of its new 36 Rafale jets (which will be delivered between November 2019 and April 2020) at Hasimara air base in West Bengal. The moves are in response to China’s own buildup of forces and infrastructure along the border.

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Re: India Modi On Track For Repeat Victory
« Reply #266 on: April 18, 2019, 08:40:10 AM »
It is expected that Modi will form the next government...hard to imagine otherwise.
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Modi On Track For Repeat Victory
https://www.forbes.com/sites/markrosenberg/2019/04/16/modi-on-track-for-repeat-victory/#15693f78b039

Let's hope so and hope for a new alliance with the USA.  )
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Opinion in WSJ:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/take-indias-side-america-11552430337
Take India’s Side, America
Neutrality has encouraged Pakistan’s bad behavior, and New Delhi is a natural ally for Washington.
By Elbridge Colby
March 12, 2019

The moment of maximum danger in the latest India-Pakistan conflict appears to have passed. But after a major attack by Pakistani militants on an Indian military base in Kashmir and the first Indian air strike on Pakistan proper since 1971, tensions are still smoldering between the two South Asian nuclear powers. The episode highlights the need for the U.S. to reassess its role in this volatile part of the world—and to come down firmly on India’s side.

Traditionally Washington has attempted to be a “neutral arbiter” between India and Pakistan. But neutrality may have made the problem worse rather than better. In 1999 Washington intervened to defuse the Kargil crisis. In 2001 and again in 2008, Washington leaned heavily on New Delhi not to respond more forcefully to attacks launched from Pakistani territory. This time, though, the Trump administration appeared reluctant to play referee. Washington should lock in this approach and make clear why.

Washington’s traditional neutrality has created a moral hazard for Pakistan. Islamabad could be confident that its threat of nuclear escalation, even if it didn’t intimidate New Delhi, would enlist American help in tamping down any Indian response. With this insurance policy in place, Pakistan sponsored terrorist attacks within India—in New Delhi in 2001, in Mumbai in 2008, and most recently in Indian Kashmir.

Pakistan’s leaders know that a country seen as having an itchy trigger finger is one that others treat gingerly. But a major war would be even worse for Pakistan than for India, and that includes a nuclear conflict. If Pakistan knew that it couldn’t count on U.S. diplomatic cover to pull its chestnuts out of the fire, it would be more reluctant to risk a war.

More important, continued U.S. neutrality makes little strategic sense amid America’s broader strategy. The primary geopolitical fact of the 21st century is China’s rise and its potential to dominate the Indo-Pacific, the world’s most economically dynamic region. U.S. foreign policy should be oriented toward frustrating China’s bid for hegemony in this crucial region. That means forming a coalition of states that will check Beijing.

India tops this list. Its leaders are dead set against allowing China to dominate the Indo-Pacific. While Washington and New Delhi have grown closer in recent years, Islamabad has turned toward Beijing. And as the U.S. rightly draws down its presence in neighboring Afghanistan, it needs Pakistan less.

In this context, it makes little sense for the U.S. to play neutral arbiter. Washington has a dog in this fight—and it is India. The U.S. should help broker deescalation and avoid war. But it should be more akin to U.S. peace efforts in involving Israel in the Middle East than as a disinterested bystander.

No one should take a possible war between nuclear-armed powers lightly. But if Pakistan has reason to believe the U.S. will always swoop in to insulate it from Indian counteraction, it makes war more, not less, likely. Altering those expectations will take some deft diplomacy, but the best time to start is in the wake of a crisis like the one that has—let us hope—just passed.

Mr. Colby served as deputy assistant defense secretary for strategy and force development, 2017-18.

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Sri Lanka
« Reply #267 on: April 21, 2019, 07:45:17 AM »
Looks like the religion of peace may have struck in Sri Lanka...its CNN so we may need additional confirmation.

https://twitter.com/bababanaras/status/1119962944714838016
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Was Pak behind Sri Lanka attack?
« Reply #268 on: April 21, 2019, 01:33:59 PM »
9 different bombs at different locations, co-ordination, high explosive use. Sri Lankan muslims do not have the skills for this. All roads lead to Pak.
Pak was expecting a terror attack on India and had already informed the world that India would attack them between April 16-20 (in response to the terror attack). Guess he was off by one day, and the attack happened in Sri Lanka where many Indians died. Attack on Indian Embassy was also part of the plan.

https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/-india-preparing-another-attack-this-month-says-pakistan-foreign-minister-qureshi-1496144-2019-04-07
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Stratfor on the Sri Lanka jihadi attack
« Reply #271 on: April 22, 2019, 01:42:32 PM »
What Happened: Almost exactly 10 years after the close of its decadeslong civil war, an unprecedented wave of terrorist attacks has struck Sri Lanka. Targeting Easter church services and hotels frequented by foreigners, eight blasts went off in Colombo, Negombo, Kochchikade and Batticaloa, most of which appear to have been carried out using suicide vests and shrapnel. Explosive devices were also found near Colombo's international airport and other areas, but they did not detonate.

The bombings killed at least 290 people and injured 500 others. According to official releases, the dead included 31 foreigners, with a further 14 unaccounted for. The U.S. Department of State confirmed that the dead, injured and missing included several U.S. citizens and issued a Travel Warning regarding Sri Lanka, saying additional attacks could occur there.

Why It Matters: For the first time, Sri Lanka must contend with an ongoing threat of Islamist terrorism, jeopardizing the country's vital tourist sector and much-needed foreign investment. In the near term, the nature of these attacks raises the possibility of further flare-ups in communal violence, and of emboldened Buddhist nationalist politicians and inflamed Tamil-Muslim tensions. The sitting government's failure to act on warnings about the risk of impending attacks will surely be a boon to opposition challengers in national elections later this year, including former longtime President Mahinda Rajapaksa.

The Sri Lankan government said the attackers had links to transnational groups, although the extent of these links remains unclear. The degree of sophistication in the making of the bombs indicates that the attackers did in fact have help from outside Sri Lanka, which could have come via coordination with external militant groups such as al Qaeda or the Islamic State, from Sri Lankan fighters returning from battlefields in Iraq and Syria, or from a combination of the two. (According to the Sri Lankan government, 32 nationals traveled to Syria to join the Islamic State.) Clarity on the nature of such networks, however, will have to wait for the emergence of more details about the attacks.

The Sri Lankan government said the attackers had links to transnational groups, although the extent of the links remains unclear.

The Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam militant group carried out numerous suicide attacks throughout the 1983-2009 civil war, but none with this scope, scale or degree of coordination. Authorities have so far arrested 24 suspects in connection with the bombings, all of whom are Sri Lankan nationals. According to anonymous sources, Sri Lankan police issued an internal memo April 11 that an unspecified foreign intelligence agency had warned that hard-line Islamist group National Thowfeek Jamaath (NTJ) was planning suicide attacks on the High Commission of India in Colombo and on churches. Whether NTJ in fact was involved in the attack, however, remains unclear. A shift toward such violent tactics would mark a major departure for a group heretofore known for vandalism and hard-line rhetoric.

Context: Sri Lanka has a deep history of ethnic cleavages and intercommunal violence. Most of this has involved tensions between the majority ethnic Sinhalese Buddhists and ethnic Tamils, but the much-smaller Muslim minority (around 10 percent of the population) has found itself caught in the middle of the complex communal balance. Intensely persecuted by the Tamil Tigers during the civil war, many Muslims went abroad, and many returned with more austere forms of Wahhabi Islam to their mostly Sufi communities. Muslims have also borne the brunt of Sri Lanka's rising Buddhist nationalism, which saw Sinhalese and Muslims engage in back-and-forth riots in March 2018, as well as numerous smaller incidents of intercommunal unrest before and since.

Much like in Indonesia, Sri Lanka's Muslim community has not been particularly drawn to extremism, with Muslim groups reportedly even being the source of some of the warnings about National Thowfeek Jamaath. The country's limited pool of potential extremists and a renewed Sri Lankan government focus on counterterrorism — decades of civil war counterinsurgency and intelligence have already bolstered the country's security forces — will be a limiting factor on any jihadist militant group's ability to launch a sustained campaign of attacks.


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Re: Stratfor on the Sri Lanka jihadi attack
« Reply #273 on: April 22, 2019, 05:46:58 PM »
"The bombings killed at least 290 people and injured 500 others."

Relative to the size of the countries, that is a loss of life much greater than our 9/11.

ya, yes, they are scum.

Media and Dems, the attacks were on "Easter worshippers" and tourists.  "Easter worshippers"??  Strangely can't say the attack was Muslims killing Christians.

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Pak airspace not fully open
« Reply #274 on: April 28, 2019, 12:08:40 PM »
For some reason paki airspace is not yet fully open...probably related to ongoing actions at the line of control (LOC).

https://ops.group/blog/pakistan-india/
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Jihadis attack hotel in Gwadar
« Reply #276 on: May 12, 2019, 05:05:35 PM »
second post

https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/south-asia/article/3009859/gunmen-attack-luxury-hotel-pakistans-gwadar-port-city?fbclid=IwAR1k_0MbN2Zt_jsuuVmwywUgCYuKfuSuPEN392orU446-Gwe-bL80SGRdEo

Some years back YA posted a piece from an Indian intel magazine or something like that that mentioned the Baluchs and the idea of fomenting their separatism.  Given the reference to them in this article this seems to have been rather prescient.
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Re: India/Indian Ocean (and India-afpakia and India-China)
« Reply #277 on: May 13, 2019, 07:52:07 PM »
1. Re: ISIS in Kashmir: ISIS flags are raised from time to time in Kashmir, as well as claims of making it part of the Caliphate. None of this has gained traction, because believe it or not, Kashmiris dont want ISIS. ISIS is mostly arab, there is no kashmiri kinship or cultural similarity with ISIS. Kashmir has some muslims who sympathize with pak (because of the incitement and money that flows from pak) and much kinship and cultural ties with pak.

This latest announcement may be in competition with Jaish e Mohammed (JEM) to gain recruits in Kashmir. JEM lost anywhere from a 100-300 recruits and about 15 bomb makers in the Balakot strike. Essentially, JEM has been severely degraded. China recently agreed to list Masood Azhar (JEM Chief) as a terrorist in the UN, but Masood may have already died in the Balakot strike, or severely injured. No one has seen or heard from him in the last months.

There can be the occasional ISIS recruit in Kashmir, but I dont see ISIS gaining a toe hold in Kashmir.

2. Balochistan: The govt is taking a hard-line against Pak, more stick, no carrot. Due to the elections, the Govt of India does not claim the amount of hurt that they are giving Pak. The IMF too is demanding their pound of flesh, the Belt and Road Initiative from China is getting a lot of negative publicity in Pak, as they learn of the loan details. Pak has been begging for a ceasefire as they cannot afford the daily artillery duels. Re:Balochistan, the Indian govt has not made any recent claims of providing support, but I have seen a definite uptick of violence against the Baloch by the paki army and by the Baloch against the pak army. The Baloch get their support and money from someone, very likely from India. Modi has talked about supporting the Baloch as has the current NSA Ajit Doval, no reason to doubt that money is not being given.

3. Modi talks about a New India, where India is no longer passive, always turning the other cheek and pandering to the aggressor. Both Pak and China (Doklam incident) are learning that things have changed. In the past pak would always brandish their nuclear weapons threat to prevent India from taking any action of after a terrorist attack, that line of talk has vanished.

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Re: India/Indian Ocean (and India-afpakia and India-China)
« Reply #278 on: May 17, 2019, 08:39:35 AM »
India Waits Warily for a U.S. Trade Salvo
A map of India is seen superimposed over the country's territory.

Highlights

    The prospects of a U.S.-India trade war — which would be marked by U.S. tariffs on a wide range of Indian imports — will hinge on the outcome of a possible U.S. investigation into India's trade practices.
    India, which recognizes it's a lower priority in U.S. trade negotiations, will be more likely to negotiate a trade package once a new government is formed after its national elections conclude later this month.
    If India chooses to continue buying Iranian oil, it will buy a reduced amount under a rupee-based payment mechanism to avoid U.S. sanctions.

 

There's nothing like a common rival to bring two countries together — at least on defense. India and the United States, both eyeing China's rise with concern, are moving closer militarily. Their common strategic interest in countering China, however, does not equal an alignment on other issues: The United States is pushing India to further open its markets to American commerce, halt purchases of Iranian oil and ease recent e-commerce regulations that could impede foreign investment. The demands, in fact, have even fueled speculation that India could emerge as a new front in U.S. President Donald Trump's trade war.

The Big Picture

New Delhi has recently grown closer with Washington, but their relationship is exposing India to U.S. demands over trade barriers and Iranian oil imports. In its 2019 Second-Quarter Forecast, Stratfor noted that Prime Minister Narendra Modi would likely hold off on making any trade concessions to the United States until the results of the Indian elections are revealed later this month. Regardless, India will struggle to accommodate U.S. wishes as it balances between appeasing Washington and safeguarding its core interests, including protecting its domestic industry and preserving its partnership with Iran.


Given its limited ability to retaliate, India will seek to avoid any larger trade disputes with the United States, a vital export market. Even so, the prospects for a confrontation will ultimately depend on how the United States chooses to act.

Washington has shown it has no qualms about launching trade disputes with other Indo-Pacific partners, including Japan and South Korea. To be sure, India remains a second-tier concern amid the administration's more pressing trade issues with China, the U.S.-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA), Europe and Japan. But if Washington resolves these disputes — and remains unsatisfied with progress in its trade talks with New Delhi — the risk of a U.S.-India trade war will grow, hurting businesses on both sides of the divide.

Curtailing India's Favorable Access

India, which enjoyed a $24 billion trade surplus with the United States last year, benefits from the Generalized System of Preferences (GSP), a program that the United States initiated in the 1970s to boost trade with developing countries. In April 2018, however, the U.S. trade representative began a review of India's tariff benefits under the GSP after industry groups representing the U.S. dairy and medical devices sectors complained that Indian barriers to trade were limiting their exports. Then, last month, Trump triggered a 60-day review period in Congress to revoke India's GSP status. India has sought to accommodate U.S. interests, yet it also has core concerns that it must safeguard, particularly in its dairy industry, where reverence for cows and vegetarianism in Hinduism entails stricter requirements on the production of milk. At the same time, it wishes to cap prices on medical devices to ensure affordability.

By itself, a decision to revoke India's GSP benefits would have a minimal impact economically, raising tariffs on only about 10 percent of its exports to the United States. But the decision to pursue that course is as much about the program itself as it is about India, with the White House arguing that the GSP has outlived its usefulness. At the same time, the program has become emblematic of a broader debate playing out at the World Trade Organization, with mature economies such as the United States and the European Union on one side and developing countries such as India and China, which are seeking the right to identify as "developing" nations to justify their trade practices, on the other. Under a program like the GSP, the United States has given preferential access to U.S. markets to poor and developing countries without reciprocal access to their markets.

Nevertheless, the GSP debate marks an escalation in the U.S. trade dispute against India, as it could trigger $235 million in retaliatory tariffs from New Delhi. But a more serious escalation would occur if the U.S. trade representative launches an investigation into Indian trade practices under Section 301 of the U.S. Trade Act of 1974. If the representative determines that India is engaging in unfair trade practices, it could legally justify imposing tariffs on a wider range of the goods and services that India exports to the United States. This, naturally, would present problems for India, since the United States is its largest export destination. India, which exported $83.2 billion in goods and services to the United States last year, has already offered Washington concessions in its dairy and medical device sectors — in spite of its special sensitivities on the matter — but the measures have failed to alter the administration's course. For the moment, India is holding off on taking any further action that could upset its ally: On May 14, it moved for the eighth time to delay imposing retaliatory tariffs in an effort to keep the dispute on ice. The next move, accordingly, is Washington's.

Disputes Over Energy and E-Commerce

Energy has emerged as another area of contention between the United States and India, particularly as Washington has threatened to impose secondary sanctions against companies that buy Iranian oil. That's a problem for India, which counts Iran as a key supplier. Over its last fiscal year, which ended March 31, India imported 23 million metric tons of crude from the Islamic republic, accounting for 11 percent of its total imports (Venezuela, another Indian supplier, is also under sanctions). In November, the United States granted a sanctions waiver to a group of countries, including India, in exchange for a reduction in their imports. The four state-owned Indian firms that continued to purchase Iranian oil duly scaled back their purchases (Iranian shipments to India fell from an average of 500,000 barrels per day (bpd) year-on-year to 277,000 bpd in April).

Today, Indian firms are reported to have halted all shipments of Iranian oil — though New Delhi is negotiating with Washington to exempt shipments of some 4 million metric tons of oil already en route. And following Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif's visit to New Delhi on May 14, India has announced it will make a final decision after its new government is formed on whether to continue to import Iranian oil. If New Delhi does renew its imports, it would likely do so under a rupee-based payment mechanism in order to sidestep U.S. sanctions. Washington, in turn, would then have to decide whether to enforce oil sanctions against India or hold off as it did with sanctions targeting Russian arms customers after India signed a multibillion-dollar agreement to buy S-400 air defense systems.

So long as New Delhi is convinced that India is of secondary importance for Washington, it will delay talks on negotiating a trade package until after it forms a new government.

Finally, while e-commerce is disrupting brick-and-mortar retail operations all over the world, it's also at the heart of an intensifying clash in India between the needs of foreign investment and domestic politics. On Feb. 1, New Delhi began implementing new regulations pertaining to foreign-backed e-commerce platforms. The regulations, which Prime Minister Narendra Modi's government announced in December 2018, aim to create neutral e-commerce platforms through various means, including measures to prevent firms like Amazon India and Walmart-owned Flipkart from selling products in which they own a stake. Modi unveiled the plans ahead of India's national elections, in part because the government's demonetization campaign in 2016 and a new goods and services tax in 2017 hit small-business owners and traders hard. U.S. Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross, however, has complained that the regulations could hurt future American foreign direct investment in India.

Entering Washington's Radar

Expectations shape behavior. So long as New Delhi is convinced that India is of secondary importance for Washington, it will delay talks on negotiating a trade package until after it forms a new government following election results later this month. India's position in other trade talks — the Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership with other countries in the Indo-Pacific — highlights New Delhi's approach, as it is tying the phased liberalization of tariffs to better market access for its robust information technology sector. Incidentally, the American tech sector — a favored destination for Indian IT professionals — has become another bone of contention: Trump's emphasis on hiring U.S. workers has led his administration to tighten U.S. H-1B visa policy, which complicates entry for Indian applicants, the program's biggest beneficiaries. This remains a key concern for India, so New Delhi is likely to seek assurances on this front as part of any bilateral trade package.

India will look to soothe tensions with the United States by exercising restraint in its talks as it negotiates a mutually beneficial trade package. Even as the two maintain divergent positions on commerce, their mutual rivalry with China will cultivate closer defense ties, as evidenced by joint anti-submarine warfare drills featuring Indian and U.S. P-8 aircraft in April — the same month that the administration moved to revoke India's GSP benefits. In the end, the United States and India view each other as lucrative markets with untapped potential, so any efforts to contain their disagreements will ensure that lingering opportunities — including U.S. interest in a $15 billion Indian air force contract — are not lost.

But ultimately, the fate of the countries' bilateral trade relationship rests with the United States, which has not spared other strategic allies, such as Japan and South Korea from trade threats, to say nothing of the hard line its taken on China. And as the United States moves beyond addressing its top-tier trade concerns — the USMCA, China, Europe and Japan — Washington's gaze will turn toward New Delhi. As it does, the chances of a clash over trade will only grow.

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Re: India/Indian Ocean (and India-afpakia and India-China)
« Reply #279 on: May 17, 2019, 05:58:39 PM »
I have a hard time believing the US will seriously try to sanction India or  try to force India to completely stop Iranian oil purchases. Yes there will be a lot of chest thumping and stomping of feet on the part of Trump, but nothing substantive. The competition with China is the real battle and that will continue (even if there is a trade deal). The US will try to balance any loss of market access to China with India and a deal will be made. This will involve additional arms purchases by India and also access to Iranian oil in exchange.


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Re: India/Indian Ocean (and India-afpakia and India-China)
« Reply #280 on: May 19, 2019, 06:16:14 PM »
Exit polls suggest Modi will be prime minister of India. Beating of pak will continue.

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Re: India/Indian Ocean (and India-afpakia and India-China)
« Reply #281 on: May 19, 2019, 07:09:42 PM »
Yes.  Good news.

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Stratfor: India Election and What's Next
« Reply #282 on: May 23, 2019, 10:29:42 PM »
India: After a Big Election Win, Modi and the BJP Can Turn to Economic Challenges
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The Big Picture

India, a rising military and economic power with a burgeoning population, is at a pivotal moment. It faces myriad economic challenges including sluggish job creation and lagging investments. Now, a major electoral win gives the ruling Bharatiya Janata Party and Prime Minister Narendra Modi the mandate they need to tackle the politically challenging land and labor reforms needed to unleash labor-intensive growth in Asia's third-largest economy.

What Happened

Prime Minister Narendra Modi's Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) earned another five years in power with a decisive victory in India's general elections. The BJP is expected to win 300 of the 542 contested seats in the Lok Sabha, the Parliament's lower house; just 272 seats were needed for a majority. The Indian National Congress meanwhile is expected to win just 50 or so seats. Modi declared victory while Congress party leader Rahul Gandhi conceded defeat.

The BJP retained its presence in its strongholds of northern and western India. This includes facing down a challenge in Uttar Pradesh, the country's most politically consequential state, where an unlikely alliance between two bitter regional rival parties failed to stop the BJP from winning a majority of the state's 80 seats. The BJP also expanded its share of seats in eastern India's West Bengal and Odisha, states dominated by powerful regional parties, though it still won only a minority of votes there. Enhancing the scope of the BJP's victory were gains by the various parties belonging to the BJP's National Democratic Alliance umbrella group, which picked up around 45 extra seats on top of the BJP's wins. The Congress-led United Progressive Alliance, which governed India for a decade until its 2014 defeat, has won around 80 seats overall, leaving a host of other parties accounting for the rest.

Why It Matters


Modi's victory points to a major shift in Indian politics. The BJP is the first party besides Congress to win back-to-back majorities in its own right. This indicates the center of gravity in Indian politics is moving away from Congress, historically the dominant political party that spearheaded the independence movement against British rule, and toward the BJP.

Modi has transformed Indian national elections from party-based to personality-based contests. By pitching himself as the kind of strong and visionary leader India needs during a pivotal moment in the country's rise, he overwhelmed the opposition, a hodgepodge of parties that lacked any similarly powerful persona to place against Modi.

The center of gravity in Indian politics is moving away from Congress, historically the dominant political party that spearheaded the independence movement against British rule, and toward the BJP.

The opposition tried to pin Modi's administration on its mixed economic record by citing slowing growth, high unemployment and unrest among farmers. But Modi commanded the narrative, convincing voters that his party's solutions to these problems were better than those offered by Congress. He also made much of the BJP's firm posture on national security in the aftermath of launching airstrikes against Pakistan in February.

Investor confidence drove a surge in India's SENSEX stock market index in anticipation of the results, breaching the 40,000 point mark for the first time, but it lost the gains just as quickly over persistent concerns about the economic challenges that will consume Modi's attention. These include resolving a liquidity crunch tied to a shadow banking crisis and lagging exports, consumption and investment. They also include the need to secure additional oil supplies amid geopolitical tensions between the United States and Iran. Modi's new majority, however, will help him navigate these economic challenges.

Background

India's general elections took place in seven phases from April 11 through May 19. They recorded a 67 percent turnout among nearly 900 million voters, an all-time high. The BJP espouses themes of Hindu nationalism and a muscular foreign policy, while Congress is perceived as a secular, center-left party deriving support from India's myriad minority groups, including the country's large Muslim population.

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GPF: Cooperation in the Indo-Pacific
« Reply #283 on: May 30, 2019, 09:58:05 AM »
Cooperation in the Indo-Pacific.

In an effort to counter China’s growing influence in the Indo-Pacific, India, Japan and Sri Lanka announced that they will work to together to expand the Port of Colombo. The project will involve increasing the port’s container volume and building a facility that will allow larger container ships to enter. The Port of Colombo sits on Sri Lanka’s western coast, while the Port of Hambantota, a key part of China’s Belt and Road Initiative, is on the south coast. Japan and India have been increasing maritime and naval cooperation recently to limit Chinese expansion through the Indian Ocean, conducting joint naval exercises last week in the Andaman Sea.

Pakistan, too, appears to be increasing its focus on Indian Ocean naval capabilities. Its Senate Standing Committee on Defense Production said on Monday that the Gwadar port, in which China is investing heavily as part of its BRI project, would be an ideal location to build a modern shipyard, identifying 750 acres of land where it could be developed. China is also seeking additional security guarantees from Pakistan for its infrastructure projects following terror attacks that occurred there two weeks ago.

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Stratfor: India Pakistan Water Treaty
« Reply #284 on: July 06, 2019, 07:57:34 PM »
Has a Water-Sharing Pact Between Pakistan and India Grown Stagnant?
By Ambika Vishwanath

A composite satellite image of the Indus River Delta in Pakistan, where the Indus River flows into the Arabian Sea.
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Contributor Perspectives offer insight, analysis and commentary from Stratfor’s Board of Contributors and guest contributors who are distinguished leaders in their fields of expertise.

Highlights

    Severe water shortages and the prospect of a delayed monsoon season that fails to deliver enough rain will push water management up India's priority list.
    India is unlikely to withdraw from the Indus Water Treaty, which has governed India and Pakistan's use of the rivers and tributaries of the Indus Basin for nearly 60 years, but it is more likely to increase its use of the water allotted to it, which in itself could be detrimental.
    The treaty does not include China, and the tenuous nature of the relationships among India, China and Pakistan does not rule out the possibility of Beijing's involvement in the river basin.
    Questions about the Indus Water Treaty's efficacy and how well it reflects current realities will become more pressing in the years ahead.

Narendra Modi's second term as Indian prime minister is underway following his Bharatiya Janata Party's landslide victory in last month's parliamentary elections, and the National Institution for Transforming India, a policy think tank of the Indian government, has released a 100-day agenda. Among the proposals for developing infrastructure and lowering India's unemployment rate, currently at an all-time high, is an emphasis on better managing the country's water resources. Water management is a controversial and touchy subject in India, but with one-third of the country in drought, water supplies in India's sixth-largest city, Chennai, running dry, and dire predictions that this year's delayed monsoon season will fail to deliver adequate rainfall totals, water management is likely to rise higher on India's priority list.

The Modi government is focused on building a network of dams and water-linkage projects, especially across northern India, to reduce the threat from China's dam-building activity on India's northeastern border and to ensure that it is effectively using the share of water allotted to it under the decades-old Indus Water Treaty before it flows into Pakistan. Adding to an escalation in tensions between India and Pakistan in February that followed a suicide attack in Kashmir were comments by Nitin Gadkari, then India's water resources minister, declaring that India would not allow excess water to flow into Pakistan and that New Delhi would work toward completely using its portion of the shared river basin, the Indus. While persistent tensions between India and Pakistan have threatened the Indus treaty, a variety of reasons explain why India is unlikely to withdraw from it and is more likely to follow through on increased usage of water, which in itself could be detrimental.

The Indus Water Treaty

For almost 60 years, India and Pakistan have shared the rivers and tributaries of the Indus Basin under the aegis of the Indus Water Treaty. Brokered by the World Bank in 1960, the Indus Water Treaty effectively split the six main rivers of the Indus Basin into geographic halves, with the three western rivers — the Indus, Jhelum and Chenab — to be used by Pakistan and the three easternmost rivers — the Ravi, Beas and Sutlej — to be used by India. Certain restrictions were placed on India as the upper riparian nation, especially with regard to storage and irrigation activity. The Permanent Indus Commission manages the treaty. Hailed as a success story, the treaty has survived numerous wars and skirmishes between the two neighbors, and while India and Pakistan have been in a permanent state of conflict over a variety of issues since 1947, no war has been fought over water.

At a time when states within India have yet to find lasting solutions to shared bodies of water, a Teesta River agreement with Bangladesh remains elusive and a treaty with China on the Brahmaputra River abides as a pipe dream, the Indus treaty is an example of how water resources can be shared through a legal framework. However, the treaty — more of a divorce settlement between India and Pakistan — represented the best arrangement possible at the time it was signed. By creating an equal division on the use of waters in the rivers of the Indus Basin and not an equitable or jointly integrated planning and management system of the entire basin, the treaty fails to safeguard the long-term rights and health of the Indus River itself. The current state of the river, stressed by the region's growing population, changes in the climate, long-pending disputes on dam-related activity and misuse of the treaty during times of war, raise the question of potential revisions to the treaty.
Right for Its Time, but Right for Now?

During times of tension between India and Pakistan, speculation arises around the possibility of India's misuse of the Indus waters as a weapon of war. After the 2001 attack on the Indian Parliament by Pakistan-based militant groups, reports suggested that then-Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee had studied the treaty's use as a potential option for retaliation, though no official stand was taken. In 2016, Modi directly referred to the Indus waters, stating that "blood and water can't flow together," in the aftermath of an attack on India's Uri army base by the Pakistani militant group Jaish-e-Mohammed. While Modi's dramatic statement could be interpreted in many ways and fed the public outcry for revenge, the Indian government remained within the confines of the Indus pact, though it decided to review and restart construction on the Tulbul navigation project on Wular Lake, which is fed by the Jhelum River. Similar strong statements were made in February when Gadkari, the water resources minister, said India would maximize the use of its share of the eastern rivers, where currently underutilized waters flow into Pakistan and to sea.

Questions about the Indus Water Treaty's efficacy and how well it reflects current realities will become more pressing in the years ahead.

While politicians and the administration might make certain statements to appease the public, it is clear that India is likely to continue to operate within the confines of the treaty. The international community, which views the pact as part of a successful conflict resolution, would see its abrogation as irresponsible. However, while the treaty might have withstood four wars, its potential misuse, existing disputes on proposed activity, and the lack of trust between Pakistan and India could lead to consequences beyond political bluster and public sentiment. Further, the treaty does not include China, which possesses the Indus headwaters. At present, China is more closely aligned with Pakistan. The tenuous nature of the relationships among India, China and Pakistan does not rule out the possibility of Beijing's involvement in the river basin. China's dam-building activity on the Tibetan Plateau is already a cause of tension on India's eastern front (Brahmaputra-Ganga Basin), and any similar activity on the Indus will affect its flow into India and Pakistan.

India uses about 95 percent of the water allotted to it under the Indus Water Treaty. To consume the remaining 5 percent — about 2 million acre-feet (2.5 billion cubic meters) — several dams and storage facilities would have to be constructed in a manner that does not violate the treaty. However, this does not consider the decrease such additional use would cause to the river's flow, which is vital to maintaining the health of the river itself. Across the entire basin, more than 90 percent of the allotted water is already used for irrigation purposes, and further activity coupled with uncertain changes in climate will place an even greater strain on the river basin.

While it would be detrimental to suggest the Indus Water Treaty be abolished, questions about its efficacy and how well it reflects current realities will become more pressing in the years ahead. Over the past five decades, discussions on certain aspects of the treaty have been resolved through dialogue and arbitration and are possible through the Permanent Indus Commission. One area of consideration for future discussion is developing a more integrated management system that safeguards the health of the Indus River and addresses the needs of growing populations, hydroelectricity and irrigation demands on both sides of the river basin. Lessons from around the world indicate that such improvement is possible, and recent testing of the waters for a revival of talks between Pakistan and India provides a potential opening for renewed discussions.

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« Reply #285 on: July 14, 2019, 09:12:32 AM »
https://indianexpress.com/article/technology/science/isro-chandrayaan-2-launch-live-updates-5828541/

India set to launch moon mission...lots of excitement in the country. Slowly catching up to the top countries.
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« Reply #286 on: August 02, 2019, 06:26:33 AM »
1. India passes law to label individuals as terrorists.  This will avoid a situation where terrorist organizations can be rebranded with new name and nothing changes. Has protections against misuse.
2. It seems to work like clockwork,  every time Pak gets money from IMF or US says they are indispensable,  Pak starts terror operations. The Indian govt cancelled a major pilgrimage route because of finding mines and sniper rifles. Other reports suggest the line of control has been unusually hot.

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« Reply #287 on: August 04, 2019, 04:30:48 PM »
As discussed, things are getting hot, Kashmiri politicians have been placed under house arrest. Section 144 of the Indian penal code is being enforced, more troops being sent to Kashmir. 10,000 were sent a few days ago. Taliban khans plan seems to be that Trump must bring India to the table, if the USA needs a honourable exit from Afghanistan. Trump made a big mistake by offering to meditate between India and Pakistan. The US negotiation position has become complicated...as there is no way the U.S. can get Indian or Afghan support. India has not taken such tough measures in a long time. 155 mms howitzer are being used.
Indian independence day is on Aug 15, a lot of rumors floating around.

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« Reply #288 on: August 05, 2019, 04:53:32 AM »
As expected  Article 370 repealed. This is HUGE. Taliban Khans plan back fires. US in a geopolitical bind, with impending visit to Afghanistan. Will expand later. Modi will go down as Indias greatest PM.

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« Reply #289 on: August 05, 2019, 05:37:15 AM »
https://asia.nikkei.com/Politics/India-to-strip-Kashmir-of-autonomy-as-unrest-deepens

India to strip Kashmir of autonomy as unrest deepens
Move follows heavy troop buildup and house arrest of local politicians
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Trump (Monte Hall) : "let's make a deal"
« Reply #290 on: August 05, 2019, 05:54:56 AM »
"Trump made a big mistake by offering to meditate between India and Pakistan."

you mean "let's make a DEAL" didn't work

when did the word *deal* replace treaty or agreement or plan?

Ya, what is your thoughts on recent Trump announcement that he wants us out of Afghanistan by 2020?


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« Reply #291 on: August 06, 2019, 06:25:05 AM »
Ok, I won't comment about article 370, except to say that Kashmiris will now be treated like regular Indians. The government of India spent about 4x per capita on Kashmiris as compared to on Indians. They were a pampered vote block. Poof! Pakistan which financed the separatists can't do much,as some protections have disappeared, the corrupt politicians have been made powerless. They hate it.

Pakistani game: Pakistan tries to make its conflict with India multilateral while India keeps it  strictly a bilateral process. Several accords have been signed between the 2 countries, and it is pretty much settled that Kashmir is a bilateral matter....but still from time to time Pakistan rakes up the issue at the UN to gain support amongst the ummah.

US interests: the U.S. wants to get out of Afghanistan with its honor intact, but cannot do so, unless the pakis can be convinced to use their influence on the Taliban. Pakistanis know this, they also know Trump likes to make deals, and is a transactional president. They offered to help Trump, and Trump either sold India down the drain, or simply was unaware of the Indian position and offered to mediate between the two countries. In the meantime Imran Khan gets back to Pakistan and claims a victory, in that Pakistan is not a pariah anymore and Trump has promised to mediate between the two countries.

Indian situation: India was angry with the U.S. for selling out India and they had to act immediately. The repeal of 370 was planned for years (another story), but the timing to implement it was forced by events. July 22_24, IK visits Trump. yesterday a U.S. delegation was scheduled to visit Pakistan to further discuss the matter, so that Trump can sign a deal in a few months, but before the elections. Trump wants to say that he got the soldiers home, and that he made a deal with the Taliban.

Current geopolitics: Pakistan is in an uproar, IK is looking like a fool. Their military is looking stupid. They need to do something, but what can they do. Suddenly the price for Pakistani help has gone up. They will ask Trump to do what he has said, i.e. mediate on Kashmir. Trump realistically cannot do much, whole of India is behind Modi. so Trump cannot do anything, he is shown to have been bloviating and pakis don't trust him, the U.S. loses prestige.

For Pakistan to help the U.S., they wanted their pound of flesh, but now another imperative has been added. They need to respond to the happenings in Kashmir. As we know, India has been very aggressive at the LOC, the border has been hot. Pakistan does not have the resources to fight or focus on two borders, the LOC with India and the Afghanistan border. What happens if things get hot between Pakistan and Taliban and India makes a swift move into Pakistan occupied Kashmir and makes a land grab (it is Indian territory, per India). They are already doing that by capturing certain border outposts.

With 370 being made irrelevant, almost certainly govt of IndiA will put getting POK back on their election manifesto. Remember, removal of 370 has been on the BJPs election manifesto for decades. It would be ironic, if India makes a big land grab in POK, and asks the U.S. to mediate (unlikely! ).
 
For the U.S., Trumps loose mouth has complicated the situation.

P.S. written on a phone, so excuse the typos

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« Reply #292 on: August 06, 2019, 06:52:50 AM »
Ya,
thanks for response

I have heard some say that Al Qaeda is just as strong now , or stronger than they were pre 911 in Afghanistan.

If true then other than keeping them suppressed we accomplished little.

Do you agree?

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« Reply #293 on: August 06, 2019, 07:51:12 AM »
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You cannot eliminate them, only suppress them locally. It's an ideology. They will just move to a more hospitable location. The term inoperable cancer and metastases comes to mind. Very difficult, without serious medicine.

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« Reply #294 on: August 06, 2019, 09:54:59 AM »
Thanks YA  as always for great insights.

For the reader, (correct me if wrong)
POK  =  Pakistan occupied Kashmir
IK  =  Indian Kashmir (?)
LoC  = Line of Control

"Trump's loose mouth has complicated the situation."

That is unfortunate.  He did not start the mess (in Afghan or Kashmir) and he did not fix it.  His urge to be out of Afghan by reelection time is real.  His need for Pak help with that is real.  The animosity (or war) between India and Pak is real.  Complicating it all, India is the most strategic and greatest potential ally to the US of them all and everything he does to appease Pak hurts that immeasurably.  We cannot operate an Asian strategy where Russia and China are against us and have India against us too.  This is a puzzle that has no answer that solves all of its parts.

What we accomplished in Afghanistan is not lasting and Pakistani help is not reliable.  In hindsight (in Iraq too), we could have removed threats with a tenth or a hundredth  of the investment in dollars, lives and blood if we had defined the mission differently.  Attack and remove threats as they appear and not try to do (nation building) or whatever it was we were trying to do.

The real question is, now what?  I don't know the answer and seems like no one does.  We must mostly leave Afghanistan knowing we will have to come back again as order deteriorates and terror re-groups.  We cannot repeat the exit mistake of Iraq where we had to come back so soon after leaving to defeat ISIS in that case.  But it is crazy (in my view) to put any of this above the need to develop a positive and strategic relationship with India.  If that is right, then Trump's advisers know it too, Sec. Pompeo for example, and are communicating that to India.

Trump has loose lips but the important lesson with him is watch what he does, not what he says.  Mediating the dispute may be just talk - tryng to make something else happen.  Hopefully they are also communicating with Modi, who fully understands the bind Trump is in, letting him know he is on India's side, not Pakistan's.  There again, they want to see actions. 

India has strategic value to President Trump on the continent that is half the world; Pakistan has single use value in one country and is not much help at that.  Choose one.
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« Reply #295 on: August 06, 2019, 02:19:24 PM »
IK= IMRAN KHAN aka Taliban  Khan.
Trump should pressure Pak and delink Kashmir, India  from the discussion. Pressure  points include removal from FATF grey list, move to black list. Can always provide more money, business investment. The stick would be to strangle the country and the army. Their army runs most businesses. They are begging IMF for a handout...They can't really survive for long without a handout.

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« Reply #296 on: August 09, 2019, 06:19:06 PM »
Pak is not getting much sympathy from anyone in the world. Even the taliban gave a very professional statement...telling Pak to not mix Afghani issues with India. This statement actually pulls the rug from under the pakis. I would take it to mean that the Taliban is telling the US, negotiate directly with us...and not via Pak.

Remarks by spokesman of Islamic Emirate concerning the ongoing Kashmir crisis
Date: August 08, 2019in: :, Statements

Remarks by spokesman of Islamic Emirate concerning the ongoing Kashmir crisis
Reports are being published that India has revoked the autonomous status of Kashmir, sent additional troops, imposed a state of emergency and created difficulties and hardships for the resident Muslim population.

The Islamic Emirate expresses deep sadness in this regard and urges both India and Pakistan to refrain from taking steps that could pave a way for violence and complications in the region and usurp the rights of Kashmiris.

Having gained bitter experiences from war and conflict, we urge peace and use of rational pathways to solve regional issues.

We call on both involved parties, OIC, Islamic countries, the United Nations and other influential institutions to play a constructive role in preventing insecurity in Kashmir. By using your influence, encourage both sides to prevent the spread of crisis and resolve the issue in a calm and composed manner.

Linking the issue of Kashmir with that of Afghanistan by some parties will not aid in improving the crisis at hand because the issue of Afghanistan is not related nor should Afghanistan be turned into the theater of competition between other countries.

Spokesman of Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan

Zabihullah Mujahid

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« Reply #299 on: August 10, 2019, 02:16:16 PM »
Good to know!