Author Topic: The electoral process, vote fraud, SEIU/ACORN et al, etc. (Read 594449 times)

ccp · « **Reply #1600 on:** January 19, 2021, 05:21:34 AM »

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/01/18/bill-barr-challenging-election-legitimacy-precipitated-capitol-siege/

I still think election was stolen

the whole thing was rigged in favor or Dems

DougMacG · « **Reply #1601 on:** January 19, 2021, 07:38:02 AM »

Quote from: ccp on January 19, 2021, 05:21:34 AM

...
I still think election was stolen
...

I would like to know, one way or the other. More importantly, I would like EVERYONE to know, one way or the other.

There aren't two sets of facts on this question.

One lesson learned is that the real power with elections lies with the state legislatures, and with the people. Where we had Republican State Legislatures, they failed to act to ensure a clean election. Besides winning better representation there, the people who care need to penetrate these six or eight cities that hold the balance in the country, like James O'Keefe and Project Veritas do. Get behind enemy lines, get inside the enemy camp, find out how they do it and blow their whistles.

If there was no significant fraud, the answer is simple. Win 40,000 more votes in these states and precincts.

Obama rose up as a community organizer. Stacey Abrams changed the balance of power in Georgia. When she lost her race, she didn't quit her fight. Conservatives and Republicans, OTOH, stay to themselves, retreat, maybe buy a gun, but then just bitch, moan, whine, complain and don't organize or act. From G M's recently posted article, “Neutrality helps the oppressor". In this moment, they are oppressors and we are the oppressed. Know that when you don't act to stop them, you are helping them.

Tordislung · « **Reply #1602 on:** January 19, 2021, 02:55:03 PM »

I'd use a word a little stronger than "think."
I know it was.
They've resisted every form of restoring confidence in the electoral system that they've been presented with.

When one's marital partner doesn't answer calls and it becomes habitual, it isn't a coincidence; nothing ever is.

Quote from: ccp on January 19, 2021, 05:21:34 AM

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/01/18/bill-barr-challenging-election-legitimacy-precipitated-capitol-siege/

I still think election was stolen

the whole thing was rigged in favor or Dems

G M · « **Reply #1603 on:** January 19, 2021, 04:23:53 PM »

Quote from: ccp on January 19, 2021, 05:21:34 AM

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/01/18/bill-barr-challenging-election-legitimacy-precipitated-capitol-siege/

I still think election was stolen

the whole thing was rigged in favor or Dems

You believe Deep State Barr?

ccp · « **Reply #1604 on:** January 19, 2021, 04:51:52 PM »

I would like to think he is honest
but who knows any more

I think fraud was committed
but no one is able to prove it
and few are even letting anyone research it.

so worse case Bill Barr is lying
best case he is being snookered

another case
he doesn't have enough evidence so he is just saying from lawyers perspective - it is over
should he have demanded FBI to seize the machines
could he
I don't know

G M · « **Reply #1605 on:** January 19, 2021, 04:57:38 PM »

Remember when Barr sent the FBI to secure the voting machines and ballots for forensic analysis?

Quote from: ccp on January 19, 2021, 04:51:52 PM

I would like to think he is honest
but who knows any more

I think fraud was committed
but no one is able to prove it
and few are even letting anyone research it.

so worse case Bill Barr is lying
best case he is being snookered

another case
he doesn't have enough evidence so he is just saying from lawyers perspective - it is over
should he have demanded FBI to seize the machines
could he
I don't know

G M · « **Reply #1606 on:** January 19, 2021, 09:34:56 PM »

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/062/462/902/original/a4cb554a70465910.png

Report all badthinkers to the DNC Bureau of Investigation!

Crafty_Dog · « **Reply #1607 on:** January 20, 2021, 09:19:17 AM »

I would like to think he is honest
but who knows any more

I think fraud was committed
but no one is able to prove it
and few are even letting anyone research it.

so worse case Bill Barr is lying
best case he is being snookered

another case
he doesn't have enough evidence so he is just saying from lawyers perspective - it is over
should he have demanded FBI to seize the machines
could he
I don't know
=============

Remember he thinks Epstein killed himself.

G M · « **Reply #1608 on:** January 20, 2021, 09:28:49 AM »

Bill "Deep State" Barr's job was to run out the clock and pretend to be fighting for us while protecting the deep state.

The FBI did NOTHING to shut down BURNLOOTMURDER/Protofa. The FBI did NOTHING to investigate electoral/vote fraud.

Why? Because those were parts of the coup THEY were involved in from the start.

Quote from: Crafty_Dog on January 20, 2021, 09:19:17 AM

I would like to think he is honest
but who knows any more

I think fraud was committed
but no one is able to prove it
and few are even letting anyone research it.

so worse case Bill Barr is lying
best case he is being snookered

another case
he doesn't have enough evidence so he is just saying from lawyers perspective - it is over
should he have demanded FBI to seize the machines
could he
I don't know
=============

Remember he thinks Epstein killed himself.

DougMacG · « **Reply #1609 on:** January 20, 2021, 10:34:34 AM »

Quote from: Crafty_Dog on January 20, 2021, 09:19:17 AM

I would like to think he is honest
but who knows any more

I think fraud was committed
but no one is able to prove it
and few are even letting anyone research it.

so worse case Bill Barr is lying
best case he is being snookered

another case
he doesn't have enough evidence so he is just saying from lawyers perspective - it is over
should he have demanded FBI to seize the machines
could he
I don't know
=============

Remember he thinks Epstein killed himself.

He acted with great courage earlier. Less or none now. We may never know what changed. If there was not evidence of vote fraud, give us real information to back that up. We might have avoided all the unrest and uncertainty now.

"he doesn't have enough evidence so he is just saying from lawyers perspective"

- Yes, top staff is likely saying this and he doesn't have evidence to override their official advice. To do so on behalf of Trump would be "political". Same for McConnell and Liz Cheney staff. If no investigation is ever done, they will never be proven wrong.

G M · « **Reply #1610 on:** January 20, 2021, 11:27:56 AM »

Quote from: DougMacG on January 20, 2021, 10:34:34 AM

Quote from: Crafty_Dog on January 20, 2021, 09:19:17 AM
I would like to think he is honest
but who knows any more

I think fraud was committed
but no one is able to prove it
and few are even letting anyone research it.

so worse case Bill Barr is lying
best case he is being snookered

another case
he doesn't have enough evidence so he is just saying from lawyers perspective - it is over
should he have demanded FBI to seize the machines
could he
I don't know
=============

Remember he thinks Epstein killed himself.

He acted with great courage earlier. Less or none now. We may never know what changed. If there was not evidence of vote fraud, give us real information to back that up. We might have avoided all the unrest and uncertainty now.

"he doesn't have enough evidence so he is just saying from lawyers perspective"

- Yes, top staff is likely saying this and he doesn't have evidence to override their official advice. To do so on behalf of Trump would be "political". Same for McConnell and Liz Cheney staff. If no investigation is ever done, they will never be proven wrong.

That's how the game is played. If it's never investigated, then you don't have to worry about hiding the evidence.

Crafty_Dog · « **Reply #1611 on:** January 21, 2021, 02:00:19 AM »

https://webmail.earthlink.net/wam/index.jsp?x=1732409148

Synergy here with ballot harvesting and mass mail and same day voter registration is devastating.

G M · « **Reply #1612 on:** January 22, 2021, 09:31:02 PM »

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/01/breaking-exclusive-arizonas-maricopa-board-supervisors-playing-games-trying-block-legitimate-forensic-audit-2020-election-ballots/

ccp · « **Reply #1613 on:** January 24, 2021, 09:26:42 AM »

https://populist.press/democrats-introduce-bill-that-will-destroy-america-with-one-swipe/

Crafty_Dog · « **Reply #1614 on:** January 24, 2021, 04:55:24 PM »

Somehow this did not occur to Bezos' "Pravda on the Potomac" (Washington Post) during the election.

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/amazon-demands-person-union-vote-after-arguing-mail-ballots-raise-risk-fraud?utm_campaign=&utm_content=Zerohedge%3A+The+Durden+Dispatch&utm_medium=email&utm_source=zh_newsletter

G M · « **Reply #1615 on:** January 29, 2021, 06:20:37 PM »

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/063/679/171/original/7278974dc639630e.jpg

Crafty_Dog · « **Reply #1616 on:** January 30, 2021, 08:58:22 AM »

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/01/nine-days-biden-inauguration-judge-rules-late-changes-va-election-law-allowed-late-mail-ballots-without-postmark-counted-illegal/?fbclid=IwAR0lcfXaYUj8L9FT5p23kVJhLCUNtcHUXgyOsaUiTBQE2NKrB3P6AOTvNwI

Crafty_Dog · « **Reply #1617 on:** January 30, 2021, 02:26:49 PM »

https://rumble.com/vd7fl7-ariz.-lawmaker-seeks-scotus-review-of-lawsuit-challenging-mail-in-ballots.html?mref=6zof&mc=dgip3&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=One+America+News+Network&ep=1

ccp · « **Reply #1618 on:** January 31, 2021, 10:09:16 AM »

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/01/31/portman-trump-supporters-have-to-acknowledge-that-this-election-was-lost/

after we have a complete battleground state independent non partisan audit

by people who are both not partisan AND don't have some sort of direct skin in the audit
such as election officials or work for or get paid by directly or indirectly
Diminion .

Why is that so hard?

G M · « **Reply #1619 on:** January 31, 2021, 10:10:56 AM »

Exactly.

Quote from: ccp on January 31, 2021, 10:09:16 AM

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/01/31/portman-trump-supporters-have-to-acknowledge-that-this-election-was-lost/

after we have a complete battleground state independent non partisan audit

by people who are both not partisan AND don't have some sort of direct skin in the audit
such as election officials or work for or get paid by directly or indirectly
Diminion .

Why is that so hard?

Crafty_Dog · « **Reply #1620 on:** February 04, 2021, 05:05:13 AM »

https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2021/02/03/democrat-lawyer-marc-elias-claims-faulty-voting-machines-in-new-york-race/

ccp · « **Reply #1621 on:** February 04, 2021, 05:31:31 AM »

"Democrat Lawyer Marc Elias Claims Faulty Voting Machines in New York Race "

if the Democrat was in the lead by ~ 120 votes
the election would be called for the Dem
and everyone in MSM
would scream no fraud
and anyone who questions it is a "threat to Democracy"

would not surprise me if the Dems get to forensically inspect the involve voting machines
since of course they are Dems in a Dem rothole state

Crafty_Dog · « **Reply #1622 on:** February 05, 2021, 08:05:45 AM »

https://web.archive.org/web/20210205034403/https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/?amp=true

ccp · « **Reply #1623 on:** February 05, 2021, 08:38:11 AM »

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Podhorzer

so this union boss man helps his union members by voting for Democrat policies
that hurt union workers

very logical

DougMacG · « **Reply #1624 on:** February 05, 2021, 10:01:05 AM »

Quote from: Crafty_Dog on February 05, 2021, 08:05:45 AM

https://web.archive.org/web/20210205034403/https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/?amp=true

Wow.

Crafty_Dog · « **Reply #1625 on:** February 05, 2021, 01:33:29 PM »

I know. Starting to spread this around.

ccp · « **Reply #1626 on:** February 05, 2021, 06:16:20 PM »

and have nerve to complain about voting machines

yet we are spit on if we do this:

https://www.syracuse.com/politics/cny/2021/02/its-a-very-very-high-bar-to-delay-ny22-race-from-being-certified-judge-tells-brindisis-attorneys.html

I don't really want to post angry whining bitter posts
forever but I guess
when shoved into a corner
with no respite in my own country
this is what it has come to

news is nearly 100% " I am bad"
"suck it up and shut the F.. up like, it or not."

while we spend money when how and where we want
and forever control my life to the number of toilet tissues I use....

while elites all democrats and the rest of the liberals throw country into the garbage can

and yet speak of "Democracy"
"America", "the American people"
"this is who we are" or "not who we are"
on and on

let me go watch a Turner movie
and go back in time

G M · « **Reply #1627 on:** February 06, 2021, 07:55:21 PM »

Quote from: DougMacG on February 05, 2021, 10:01:05 AM

Quote from: Crafty_Dog on February 05, 2021, 08:05:45 AM
https://web.archive.org/web/20210205034403/https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/?amp=true

Wow.

https://i0.wp.com/politicallyincorrecthumor.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/donald-trump-guns-pointed-at-media-deep-state-big-tech.jpg?resize=540%2C305&ssl=1

G M · « **Reply #1628 on:** February 06, 2021, 09:22:33 PM »

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/392550.php

Quote from: G M on February 06, 2021, 07:55:21 PM

Quote from: DougMacG on February 05, 2021, 10:01:05 AM
Quote from: Crafty_Dog on February 05, 2021, 08:05:45 AM
https://web.archive.org/web/20210205034403/https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/?amp=true

Wow.

https://i0.wp.com/politicallyincorrecthumor.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/donald-trump-guns-pointed-at-media-deep-state-big-tech.jpg?resize=540%2C305&ssl=1

Crafty_Dog · « **Reply #1629 on:** February 07, 2021, 03:44:42 AM »

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/02/exclusive-tcf-center-election-fraud-newly-recovered-video-shows-late-night-deliveries-tens-thousands-illegal-ballots-michigan-arena/?fbclid=IwAR003gOZykBgTgzBuALTooVnfUM4_rFBF-tbaLrO3c4uUkSfyj99CVsfDoU

Crafty_Dog · « **Reply #1630 on:** February 08, 2021, 05:39:15 AM »

https://www.theepochtimes.com/trump-won-two-thirds-of-election-lawsuits-where-merits-considered_3688543.html?utm_source=morningbrief&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mb-2021-02-08

DougMacG · « **Reply #1631 on:** February 08, 2021, 08:21:47 AM »

https://babylonbee.com/news/138000-points-suddenly-awarded-to-losing-team-at-halftime

https://media.babylonbee.com/articles/article-7943-1.jpg

"After closer examination, we discovered several more points scored by the Chiefs that we had missed initially," said one official. "Sometimes these things show up in the instant replay footage."

G M · « **Reply #1632 on:** February 09, 2021, 06:47:38 PM »

https://i0.wp.com/wilderwealthywise.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/FALSE.jpg?w=577&ssl=1

Quote from: G M on February 06, 2021, 09:22:33 PM

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/392550.php

Quote from: G M on February 06, 2021, 07:55:21 PM
Quote from: DougMacG on February 05, 2021, 10:01:05 AM
Quote from: Crafty_Dog on February 05, 2021, 08:05:45 AM
https://web.archive.org/web/20210205034403/https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/?amp=true

Wow.

https://i0.wp.com/politicallyincorrecthumor.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/donald-trump-guns-pointed-at-media-deep-state-big-tech.jpg?resize=540%2C305&ssl=1

G M · « **Reply #1633 on:** February 10, 2021, 04:54:21 PM »

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/02/must-read-democrats-able-win-2020-breaking-chain-custody-laws-every-swing-state/

Crafty_Dog · « **Reply #1634 on:** February 11, 2021, 06:08:03 AM »

https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2020/12/yes-it-was-stolen-election-john-perazzo/?fbclid=IwAR2jSyrSwRfpLpcp2o1QL0iWr6kS6MbvVuHAozxU-C4XOEfjzxr-1RlyusU

PS: I wish Gatewaypundit would take the time to improve the quality of its writing and address the obvious counter arguments that will be made.

Crafty_Dog · « **Reply #1635 on:** February 11, 2021, 07:55:31 AM »

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/02/huge-development-hand-recount-finds-dominion-voting-machines-shorted-every-republican-windham-new-hampshire-300-votes/

DougMacG · « **Reply #1636 on:** February 11, 2021, 08:09:16 AM »

Quote from: Crafty_Dog on February 11, 2021, 06:08:03 AM

https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2020/12/yes-it-was-stolen-election-john-perazzo/?fbclid=IwAR2jSyrSwRfpLpcp2o1QL0iWr6kS6MbvVuHAozxU-C4XOEfjzxr-1RlyusU#.YAenmJvFE0F.facebook

Yes. Best document on this I have seen. Wouldn't it be nice if we could STILL have an investigation and real debate on all the points made here.

ccp · « **Reply #1637 on:** February 11, 2021, 08:38:28 AM »

https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicholasreimann/2021/02/10/georgia-sen-warnock-under-investigation-for-voter-registration-misconduct/?sh=6be2e8e46ea0

DougMacG · « **Reply #1638 on:** February 14, 2021, 09:20:02 AM »

This story isn't over. Dominion is doing exactly what they would do if they are innocent, suing those who defamed them, namely Sydney Powell.

Powell will presumably use truth as a defense and discovery as a tool. Powell wants until March 22 to respond to Dominion's lawsuit.
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/02/09/dominion-investigators-trump-sidney-powell-467954

Lin Wood representing her is not a good sign.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2021/02/12/lin-wood-is-representing-sidney-powell-in-dominion-defamation-case/?sh=3701970a1ac2

I guess there is more to come.

ccp · « **Reply #1639 on:** February 14, 2021, 10:40:13 AM »

"This story isn't over. Dominion is doing exactly what they would do if they are innocent, suing those who defamed them, namely Sydney Powell."

If this is true I will always not believe that somethings were done to tamper with the votes

and that the evidence is already erased, destroyed
or otherwise hidden

I personally will never have confidence with these voting machines
or the mail in ballot system

Trusting the media the courts the government the intelligence people the FBI - for me has vanished

I want to believe our system is trustworthy but that was probably always a fantasy

I don't even trust some in medicine anymore

Perhaps I should add our government did keep us safe after 911
and deserve big credit
but once they are pitted to certain Americans based on politics the it gets awfully tough......

ccp · « **Reply #1640 on:** February 15, 2021, 05:41:06 AM »

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/02/14/pinkerton-stacey-abrams-outlines-her-plan-for-democratic-domination-so-whats-the-republican-plan/

I would not call Abrams a genius
was it not always obvious if we had people going door to door and street corner to corner
promised them free stuff we could get hoards of people to vote

it is only Abrams did the opposite

after rigging the opportunity to do so

did Trump hurt the turnout in Georgia or help it?

can anyone give me an honest answer ?

DougMacG · « **Reply #1641 on:** February 15, 2021, 05:29:11 PM »

"did Trump hurt the turnout in Georgia or help it?
can anyone give me an honest answer ?"

He hurt it. He tried to uido some of the damage aty the end but even his rally was screwed up. That's when he turned on Pence for example, made what's her name promise to acquit him and so on.

The Republicans were screwed up in Georgia right when they needed to have the act fully together. McConnell was part of it, playing games with checks. The two candidates were part of it, stock scandal at the start of covid? The Governor and the Sec of State were part of it and Trump was part of it. Also Sydney Powell really laid into the Gov and Sec of State, forcing the divide. Whoever was right, whoever was wrong, it was a screwed up mess. They all turned against each other, divided the party and killed turnout when they needed to double it.

DougMacG · « **Reply #1642 on:** February 15, 2021, 05:37:40 PM »

https://neonnettle.com/features/1894-scotus-to-hear-election-fraud-cases-for-pennsylvania-michigan-georgia

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2021/02/12/lin-wood-is-representing-sidney-powell-in-dominion-defamation-case/?sh=1f0982e31ac2

The truth matters. I hope it all comes out, either way.

DougMacG · « **Reply #1643 on:** February 18, 2021, 08:40:02 PM »

Oh no, the voter rolls in Michigan were wrong and no one knew. 177,000 bad names purged Jan 2021 AFTER the election and certification.
[That's more than the margin of so-called victory.]

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/02/michigan-removed-177000-voters-voter-rolls-january-certifying-biden-won-michigan-154000-votes-november/

G M · « **Reply #1644 on:** February 18, 2021, 11:00:40 PM »

Try posting that on FaceHugger.

Quote from: DougMacG on February 18, 2021, 08:40:02 PM

Oh no, the voter rolls in Michigan were wrong and no one knew. 177,000 bad names purged Jan 2021 AFTER the election and certification.
[That's more than the margin of so-called victory.]

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/02/michigan-removed-177000-voters-voter-rolls-january-certifying-biden-won-michigan-154000-votes-november/

Crafty_Dog · « **Reply #1645 on:** February 19, 2021, 02:48:07 AM »

I just did. Let's see what happens.

Crafty_Dog · « **Reply #1646 on:** February 19, 2021, 03:02:35 AM »

https://claremontreviewofbooks.com/the-continuing-crisis/?fbclid=IwAR1TWlfpWNZhTLWCDNg4wr27dDbAyKVYv60T0gdSZqUIwTZbmsh2B2HTRo0

G M · « **Reply #1647 on:** February 22, 2021, 02:42:29 AM »

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/066/395/134/original/9c481cb246a80971.png

ccp · « **Reply #1648 on:** February 23, 2021, 08:53:26 AM »

https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/dick-morris-packing-the-court-intimidation-justices/2021/02/22/id/1011090/

Crafty_Dog · « **Reply #1649 on:** February 23, 2021, 08:16:26 PM »

In interesting possibility of deep implication.

News:

Author Topic: The electoral process, vote fraud, SEIU/ACORN et al, etc. (Read 594449 times)