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AZ: Gov race to go to recount?
« Reply #2350 on: November 16, 2022, 03:32:36 PM »
Hobbs’s Lead Over Lake Narrows in Arizona Gubernatorial Race
By Zachary Stieber November 16, 2022 Updated: November 16, 2022biggersmaller Print


Republican Kari Lake has narrowed Arizona Secretary of State Katie Hobbs’s lead in the state’s race for governor in a Nov. 15 update.

Hobbs’s lead of 19,382 narrowed to 17,249, according to unofficial results from the office of Hobbs, a Democrat, based on new reports from Maricopa County and other jurisdictions. Hobbs gained nearly 9,700 votes in the new tranche, while Lake gained 11,829.

Hobbs now has 1.276 million votes, while Lake now has 1.259 million. The margin between the candidates is about 0.6 percent, close to recount territory.

Under a new Arizona law, a recount is triggered if the margin is at or below 0.5 percent when all the votes are counted.’

Some 27,545 uncounted ballots remain, according to the office of Hobbs, who is Arizona’s top election official. That estimate may not be reliable, however—the estimate was 28,033 before the latest count, but more than 20,000 votes were reported.

According to the estimate, 11 Arizona counties have ballots that need counting. Maricopa County, with 12,277, has the most uncounted ballots.

However, according to the Maricopa County election website, 16,830 ballots still need to be counted.

The secretary of state site “only shows votes for the named candidates on the ballot,” a Maricopa County spokesperson told The Epoch Times via email. “Write-ins, undervotes, and overvotes are tallied in our totals.”

A spokesperson for the secretary of state’s office didn’t respond by press time to a request for comment.

Hobbs declared victory this week after media outlets, including The Associated Press, called the race for her. Lake hasn’t conceded.

“I want to thank the voters of Arizona for entrusting me with this immense responsibility. It is truly the honor of a lifetime, and I will do everything in my power to make you proud,” Hobbs said on Nov. 15 at what was described as a victory rally.

“For those Arizonans who didn’t vote for me, know that I will work just as hard for you.”

Lake shared a post on Twitter from Floyd Brown, founder of The Western Journal news website.

“Spent hours last night working with Lake team on a continuing war for Arizona. She will not go quietly into the night. She intends to stand and fight,” Brown wrote.

“She knew when she entered this race that it would be tough. Her opponents lack her courage. She is fighting for us.”

The winner will succeed Republican Gov. Doug Ducey, who was prohibited by term limit laws from seeking reelection.


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Re: The electoral process, vote fraud, SEIU/ACORN et al, etc.
« Reply #2352 on: November 17, 2022, 11:58:30 AM »
the mail ballots
are it

I was naive
I really thought that the Republicans HAD  prepared for this

it was plainly obvious they were going to do it again ........


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The Podesta $750M Slush Fund
« Reply #2353 on: November 17, 2022, 01:23:54 PM »
Urgent Call for a Podesta Watchdog: The $750 Billion Schumer-Manchin So-Called Inflation Reduction Act
by Lawrence Kadish
November 17, 2022 at 3:00 pm

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Congress needs to appoint an independent non-partisan monitor with subpoena power to review the disbursements of nearly half a trillion dollars in federal funds that will be distributed by a former Clinton associate and Democratic operative on behalf of the Biden Administration.

Failure to have an independent "inspector general" act as a daily auditor could turn appropriations allegedly slated for environmental projects into one of the largest political slush funds ever suffered by the American taxpayer. What will surely be some very selective disbursements are likely to come in the midst of a presidential election cycle and at a time when Democrats are understandably seeking every advantage. No surprise, given that their standard bearer is now the oldest citizen to hold the office of president while many voters might still view as puzzling how his current vice president came to be a heartbeat away from the Oval Office.

So just who will be the "environmental expert" with the skill, insight, and professionalism to determine where, when and who receives a portion of the $370 billion earmarked for "green" projects in the $750 billion Schumer-Manchin so-called Inflation Reduction Act. Even the New York Times had to acknowledge that the designated administrator for this strategic responsibility, John Podesta, is a "Democratic stalwart." (For those unfamiliar with the word, "stalwart" can be defined as "loyal and resolute.")

And so he is.

While he may boast environmental credentials, let us be clear. Podesta has previously served as White House chief of staff to President Bill Clinton and chaired Hillary Clinton's unsuccessful presidential campaign in 2016. He is first and foremost a creature of Washington.

There is little doubt that Podesta's supervision of the allocation of hundreds of billions of dollars in a presidential election cycle requires an independent auditor to protect the taxpayer. While there is a General Accounting Office designed to monitor federal spending, they will be hard-pressed to keep tabs in real time on what Podesta is spending and where.

While a Democrat-controlled Senate will look on with a studiously indifferent gaze at what has been called this potential slush fund, it will require the Republican-controlled House of Representatives to devise a mechanism that prevents this from becoming a multi-billion dollar scandal. Voters need to appreciate that a Washington insider has been assigned to direct federal funds to achieve a victory that may have nothing to do with environmental protection and everything to do with who makes what announcement on election night 2024.

Lawrence Kadish serves on the Board of Governors of Gatestone Institute.
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/19126/podesta-watchdog

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PA: A moment of Dem integrity against vote fraud?
« Reply #2354 on: November 17, 2022, 07:06:29 PM »

DEM BUSTED FOR ELECTION FRAUD… AFTER ELECTION… PA Gov. Elect Josh Shapiro Arrests Democratic Consultant For ‘Wide Scale’ Ballot Fraud

Democratic Pennsylvania Governor-elect Josh Shapiro charged a former campaign consultant Wednesday with “wide scale” voter fraud, according to authorities.

Philadelphia political consultant Rasheen Crews was arrested Wednesday and charged with forging signatures on nomination petitions so that he could get his Democratic clients on the ballot during the 2019 primary races in the city, Shapiro’s office announced.

“In advance of the 2023 municipal elections, this arrest is an important reminder that interfering with the integrity of our elections is a serious crime,” Shapiro said in a statement. “By soliciting and organizing the wide scale forgery of signatures, the defendant undermined the democratic process and Philadelphians’ right to a free and fair election. My office is dedicated to upholding the integrity of the election process across the Commonwealth, to ensure everyone can participate in Pennsylvania’s future.”

Authorities determined that several democratic candidates hired Crews to help them obtain the required amount of signatures needed to run in the primary races. Crews then allegedly recruited individuals who were invited to a hotel room where they were asked to write names, addresses and “forged signatures on multiple petitions.”

 

MORE…FREE BEACON: Pennsylvania AG Josh Shapiro Charges His Own Former Campaign Consultant with ‘Wide Scale’ Voter Fraud

According to an arrest affidavit, Shapiro’s office opened an investigation into Crews in September 2019. It is unclear why it took three years to bring charges against him.

Crews has consulted for dozens of state and local candidates over the years, campaign finance disclosures show. Shapiro’s attorney general campaign paid Crews $2,000 in 2016, according to the Pennsylvania campaign finance database.

Crews’s clients denied knowledge of the forgery scheme, according to the affidavit. Crews allegedly hired individuals to forge signatures to get his clients placed on Democratic primary ballots for municipal elections in Philadelphia. He had the ballot petitions notarized and then filed with the Pennsylvania Department of State.

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Boebart recount
« Reply #2355 on: November 18, 2022, 07:20:50 AM »
out of 326 + thousand votes Boebart leads by 551

very strange
how close these races are
almost as if the libs know exactly how many ballots to drop off to squeak ahead

https://www.newsmax.com/politics/lauren-boebert-adam-frisch-house/2022/11/17/id/1096899/

how many times to we get burned in this situation
though we did win big in Florida in 2000......by a pubic hair
of course that was ONLY because it was before ballot harvesting and mail in ballots etc
to the nth degree

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Re: Boebart recount
« Reply #2356 on: November 18, 2022, 08:56:13 AM »
You can't do a massive mail in vote drop in Aspen the way you might in Denver or Phoenix.

Take a look at her district, the jerry meandered western half of Colorado is a mix of the old west and rich liberals buying up the most beautiful outdoor areas.
http://boebert.house.gov/about/our-district

The older towns like Craig and Grand Junction and the ranchers who live in the open spaces are now Republican.  Vail used to be considered conservative but the rich liberals coming there now and buying and building in Aspen, Steamboat and Telluride are as Left as they come. Leadville (Doug's town) is an old style Democrat mining town.

Like the gold rush, legalized marijuana brought out the young, untethered, contributing to the changing demographics and politics of this rocky mountain state.  They come for the people, and the beauty and the climate, not just for the pot you can buy anywhere.

But the liberals in their beautiful mountain mansions are anti-development, they don't want more - "more scars upon the land", as John Denver put it, so growth is not infinite like it is on the front range.

Boebert is really bold and a little bit nutty, IIRC.  Some of this is about the candidate.

Pot legalization has gone nationwide and housing prices and rents have gone sky high all across Colorado.  I would have to guess growth has peaked there, but we lost a key state.

This district won't tell us much about the nation as a whole, and won't help us win back the state.
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funny how SBF net worth disappeared - on election day
« Reply #2357 on: November 20, 2022, 08:45:49 AM »
https://heartlandernews.com/2022/11/14/democrats-second-largest-donor-sam-bankman-frieds-net-worth-plummets-94-after-his-company-ftx-collapses/

one article claims at its peak FTX worth 26 billion
and "at least " 40 million donated to Democrats ......


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Re: The electoral process, vote fraud, SEIU/ACORN et al, etc.
« Reply #2358 on: November 20, 2022, 02:11:54 PM »
Helluva coincidence.








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AZ gov race still up in the air
« Reply #2366 on: November 22, 2022, 04:08:51 PM »
Red Pill News posted a video to playlist Red Pill Report.
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The Arizona Attorney General is refusing to certify the 2022 gubernatorial election until Maricopa County provides answers to several questions about mechanical failures that took place at several polling locations on election day. Who knows what happens next.
To keep big tech happy, below is context from competing sources.
PolitiFact asserts that the tabulator and printing issues had no effect on the outcome.
https://www.politifact.com/.../no-maricopa-vote.../
Washington Post asserts, counter to Kari Lake's claim that half of locations experienced issues, that issues existed at only 25 percent of locations.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/.../problems-with-voting.../



https://www.theepochtimes.com/mohave-county-delays-certifying-arizona-election-results-in-protest_4877875.html?utm_source=Goodevening&src_src=Goodevening&utm_campaign=gv-2022-11-22&src_cmp=gv-2022-11-22&utm_medium=email&est=XmWwkGt%2BLbZLLHJB9ym3A73yrs0dqGCEkLSMg7BuN%2F98JRn9OlkwcGs4irupsubcm5Zn




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WT: Some Reps calling to embrace ballot harvesting
« Reply #2367 on: November 23, 2022, 04:23:32 PM »
Let’s fight back: GOP activists want more ballot harvesting after Election Day dud


In this June 9, 2020, file photo election workers process mail-in ballots during a nearly all-mail primary election in Las Vegas. As President Donald Trump's reelection campaign challenged Nevada's new voting law in court, the president and Republicans argued the rules would facilitate fraud and illegal voting. Chief among their volley of criticism was the law's provision allowing “ballot harvesting." The Nevada lawsuit highlighted a practice that has long fueled Republicans' suspicions about the dangers of mail-in voting. (AP Photo/John Locher) **FILE**

In this June 9, 2020, file photo election workers process mail-in ballots during a nearly all-mail primary election in Las Vegas. As President Donald Trump’s reelection campaign challenged Nevada’s new voting law in court, the president and Republicans argued the ... more >

By Kerry Picket - The Washington Times - Updated: 5:25 p.m. on Wednesday, November 23, 2022
Republican candidates and conservative activists are embracing the long-shunned election strategy of ballot harvesting after the party got defeated again by Democrats who use that game plan.

This year, it became clearer that Republicans won in places where they competed with Democrats’ ballot harvesting operations.

Ballot harvesting — when a third party collects completed ballots from voters and delivers them in bulk to election officials — was long opposed by Republicans, who said it was ripe for fraud.

Reps. Mike Garcia and Michelle Steele, California Democrats, said they couldn’t afford to stay on the sidelines while Democrats reaped the benefits of ballot harvesting.

Both of them won reelection with the help of their campaigns’ ballot harvesting initiatives.

Mr. Garcia said ballot harvesting is the final part of an ongoing strategy of voter contact.

“It’s not necessarily about harvesting; it’s about getting the vote,” he told The Washington Times.

He treats his campaigns as long-term courtships, he said, by deploying volunteers in communities for two years before an election and intensifying door-knocking as early voting and Election Day draw near.

“So we rely on several institutions. Some of the churches have helped us in that regard. We have multiple drop boxes, obviously, throughout the county that serve as very effective ways to have people drop off their ballot in a very convenient way,” he said.

Among the 31 states where voters authorize others to cast ballots on their behalf, nine restrict the number of ballots an authorized individual can return and four cap the period of time those ballots can remain in the authorized person’s possession, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures.

These prohibitions were established out of concern that providing the convenience of returning ballots could evolve into pressuring people to vote a particular way.

Republican activists celebrated the party’s advances with ballot harvesting even if the results of the midterm elections were disappointing in some respects, including the failure to win the Senate majority.

“The House of Representatives is GOP-controlled thanks to how we performed in states with the most liberal ballot harvesting and vote-by-mail laws — New York, Oregon, California. We can master this system. Democrats are praying that we refuse to try,” Turning Point USA’s Charlie Kirk said in a post on Twitter.

“I miss politics where the better arguments and the hardest working candidates won elected office,” he said. “Now it’s a matter of which political machine can capture the most ballots in a 30-day window. So be it, we will now have to beat the left at the game.”

Mr. Kirk is not alone in his thinking. The Federalist’s CEO and co-founder, Sean M. Davis, said in a tweet that Republicans blaming midterm results on “candidate quality” and former President Donald Trump are just putting up a “smokescreen for the GOP getting its bell rung on ballot harvesting and the base mechanics of electioneering.”

He added, “The *one thing* that’s the actual job of the party establishment is the one thing it refused to do.”

Harmeet K. Dhillon, chairwoman of the Republican National Lawyers Association, responded to Mr. Davis by saying, “The party establishment is fine doing this. The base doesn’t like it. We do ballot harvesting in CAGOP and get attacked by ‘election integrity’ groups. You can dislike the law and work to change it, but it’s silly to leave votes on the table.”

A Republican National Committee spokesman said it is sticking to its policy of opposing ballot harvesting but is leaving wiggle room for candidates.

“Republicans also know we must play by the rules set out by each state and will leave no stone unturned to win as many races as possible up and down the ballot,” the RNC said in a statement to The Times.

The RNC prevailed with the 2021 Supreme Court ruling of Brnovich v. Democratic National Committee to uphold a ban on ballot harvesting in Arizona. The RNC also partnered with the California Republican Party to drive up voter turnout via different ballot collection methods.

American Conservative Union Chairman Matt Schlapp said part of the problem with the term “ballot harvesting” is that it is not clearly defined.

“Ballot harvesting is a completely corrupt process that Republicans should reject. That being said, as we know, it’s been made legal,” Mr. Schlapp said. “In some ways, you can say it’s always been legal because you always had people who were handicapped or people who were older, who needed assistance.

“The law never meant to say that you can’t vote if you have difficulties and, of course, as the left does with everything, they run a Mack truck through any kind of little exception,” he said.

Mr. Schlapp encouraged Republicans to engage in ballot harvesting where the practice is legal if it is the only way to defeat Democrats.

“It’s kind of like a business that deals with a corrupt tax code. It can yell about the tax code … but in the end, it has to follow the tax code and take advantage of the tax code,” he said. “And even businesses that take advantage of tax deductions they find abhorrent and immoral, but they still do it.”

• Kerry Picket can be reached at kpicket@washingtontimes.com.

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Illegal aliens and foreign diplomats to vote in DC?!?
« Reply #2368 on: November 23, 2022, 07:59:48 PM »
Noncitizen Bill Makes Aliens and Diplomats D.C. Voters
Congress can stop a law that gives the franchise to any adult 30-day district resident.
By The Editorial Board


Nov. 23, 2022 6:40 pm ET

Hard as it is to believe, the mayor of Washington, D.C., might soon be elected with votes from illegal immigrants or the staff at the Chinese embassy. Last month the D.C. City Council passed a bill to expand the franchise in local elections to any adult with 30 days of residency. Mayor Muriel Bowser did not sign or veto it, so the bill was officially enacted Monday without her signature.

A few jurisdictions have moved to let noncitizens vote in local races, but the D.C. plan stands out, given how it follows progressive ideas to a bizarre conclusion. New York City passed a noncitizen voting law that a court ruled this year was a violation of the state Constitution. But that proposal at least required noncitizen voters to have U.S. work authorization. No such limitation appears in the D.C. bill, meaning illegal aliens and foreign college students would be able to vote, and that’s not all.

“There’s nothing in this measure to prevent employees at embassies of governments that are openly hostile to the United States from casting ballots,” the Washington Post reported. A writer at the lefty New Republic agreed with that assessment: “A Russian diplomat could live their entire life in Moscow or St. Petersburg, take a job as a cultural attaché at Russia’s D.C. Embassy in August 2024, move into their new apartment that September, and cast a ballot in D.C.’s local elections that November.”

It reads like a bad parody of progressive decadence. Try to imagine American diplomatic personnel showing up to cast ballots for the mayor of Beijing or Moscow. Beyond that, the standard objections to noncitizen voting apply. It weakens the incentive to naturalize. Only U.S. citizens can vote in federal races, so including noncitizens in local races would force election officials to manage two voter lists and two sets of ballots. It’s begging for a fiasco.

These arguments didn’t persuade the D.C. City Council, which passed the bill 12-1 on first reading. Because the district is a federal enclave, acts of the council are subject to review by Congress, and the bill now goes to Capitol Hill. Lawmakers have 30 legislative days to object via a joint resolution.

Republican Sens. Tom Cotton and Ted Cruz have said they will seek to block the noncitizen voting proposal. Will Democrats stand in the way of that attempt? Let’s see the roll call.

Perhaps this is also a moment to think bigger. Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger has suggested “a constitutional amendment, a U.S. constitutional amendment, that only American citizens vote in our elections.” A 2024 presidential candidate who takes up that call might find a receptive public.

As for D.C., if the passage of this bill with little dissent reflects the rest of its governance, maybe Congress is overdue to consider some deeper reforms in how America’s capital city is run.
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AZ: Kari Lake files lawsuit
« Reply #2369 on: November 24, 2022, 07:42:56 AM »
‘They’re Trying to Run Out the Clock:’ Kari Lake Files 1St Lawsuit After Election
By Zachary Stieber November 24, 2022 Updated: November 24, 2022biggersmaller Print


Arizona Republican gubernatorial candidate Kari Lake on Nov. 23 filed a lawsuit against Maricopa County.

Lake sued Stephen Richer, the county’s recorder, and other officials in Arizona Superior Court. She’s asking the court to compel the officials to promptly produce records on the administration of the midterm elections, which featured widespread issues in the state’s largest county.

“Given instances of misprinted ballots, the commingling of counted and uncounted ballots, and long lines discouraging people from voting, as demonstrated in the attached declarations, these records are necessary for Plaintiff to determine the full extent of the problems identified and their impacts on electors,” the 19-page suit states.

Maricopa County officials have acknowledged that tabulators across many polling sites stopped working properly on election day. Among the advised solutions was voters placing their ballots into a box to be counted later. Declarations attached to the new suit from poll observers say that workers mixed counted and uncounted ballots in the same container at the end of the night.

Another solution to the tabulator problem was a voter checking out of a site and utilizing a mail-in ballot. To try to figure out the extent of the problems, the Lake campaign on Nov. 15 requested information such as all records related to voters who checked into a site and who also submitted a ballot by mail. The campaign sent another request on Nov. 16. None of the records have been produced yet, which violates Arizona law that public record requests must be fulfilled “promptly,” the suit states.

“We need information from Maricopa County,” Lake said on Steve Bannon’s “War Room.” “They ran the shoddiest election ever, in history, and we want some information. We’re on a timeline, a very strict timeline when it comes to fighting this botched election. And they’re dragging their feet. They don’t want to give us the information, so we’re asking the courts to force them to give us the information.”

At present, Lake’s opponent Katie Hobbs, a Democrat who serves as Arizona’s secretary of state, is ahead in the race. Maricopa County is scheduled to canvass the results on Nov. 28, with the state following on Dec. 5. Arizona Gov. Doug Ducey this week said he’s working to help Hobbs transition to become governor.

The suit asks the court to compel the county to produce the records prior to the canvassing. “This deadline (or its substantial equivalent) is, under the circumstances presented, necessary to ensure that vital public records are furnished promptly and that apparent deficiencies can be remedied before canvassing of the 2022 general election,” it says.

Maricopa County did not return requests for comment on a different lawsuit filed this week by Abe Hamadeh, the Republican candidate for state attorney general, and the Republican National Committee. Its offices were closed on Thursday for Thanksgiving.


Attorney General
The office of Arizona Attorney General Mark Brnovich, a Republican, recently requested information from Thomas Liddy, the chief of the Maricopa County Attorney’s Office’s Civil Division, after receiving hundreds of complaints about issues related to the midterms.

“These complaints go beyond pure speculation, but include first-hand witness accounts that raise concerns regarding Maricopa’s lawful compliance with Arizona election law,” Assistant Attorney General Jennifer Wright wrote. “Furthermore, statements made by both Chairman Gates and Recorder Richer, along with information Maricopa County released through official modes of communication appear to confirm potential statutory violations of title 16.”

The information indicated that the county did not uniformly administer the election, as is required by state and federal law, and that poll workers weren’t trained to check out voters who left sites where the tabulators weren’t working right, she added.

Wright requested the information on or before the county submits its canvass to the secretary of state because the issues “relate to Maricopa County’s ability to lawfully certify election results.”

Bill Gates, the Republican chairman of the county’s Board of Supervisors, said in a statement that the county would not delay the canvass.

“Prior to the canvass, the County will respond to a letter from the Arizona Attorney General’s Office requesting information about the administration of the November General Election,” he said at the time. “Board members received this letter on Saturday night and had a team working on a response all day Sunday, even as staff continued counting votes. We look forward to answering the AG’s questions with transparency as we have done throughout this election.”

Brnovich’s office has not indicated that the county has provided the information, nor has the county said it handed over the information.

Lake said on “War Room” that the county is “trying to run out the clock,” referring to the looming canvass.

Not the ‘Main Case’
At least one other lawsuit is in the works, according to Lake.

“This is not our main case. When our main case drops, they will hear it,” she said.

Lake reiterated that whistleblowers are coming forward and that officials “better think long and hard” before certifying the election in light of the widespread issues that unfolded in Maricopa County.

The forthcoming suit may cite findings from nearly a dozen Republican attorneys who observed the election at Maricopa County sites and attested to the tabulator failures being more widespread than county officials presented.

The issues led to “substantial voter suppression,” attorney Mark Sonnenklar wrote in a memorandum summarizing the findings. Since Republicans voted in larger numbers on the day than Democrats, “such voter suppression would necessarily impact the vote tallies for Republican candidates much more than the vote tallies for Democrat candidates,” he added.

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Noncitizen Bill Makes Aliens and Diplomats D.C. Voters Congress can stop a law t
« Reply #2370 on: November 24, 2022, 09:49:20 AM »
"These arguments didn’t persuade the D.C. City Council, which passed the bill 12-1 on first reading. Because the district is a federal enclave, acts of the council are subject to review by Congress, and the bill now goes to Capitol Hill. Lawmakers have 30 legislative days to object via a joint resolution."

of course
bill passes and 30 days are up just before Repubs take over Congress.

what has happened to this country ?

this should be a scandal all over the media

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WSJ: Kari Lake is the New Stacey Abrams
« Reply #2376 on: December 01, 2022, 07:11:46 PM »
Kari Lake Is the New Stacey Abrams
If the election was a ‘sham,’ how did other Republicans win?
By The Editorial BoardFollow
Dec. 1, 2022 6:55 pm ET


What Kari Lake wants the public to forget is that she lost the Arizona gubernatorial race by 17,116 ballots, or 0.7 percentage point, which is outside of recount range. She’s now calling the election a “sham.” Congrats, Ms. Lake, you’ve earned the 2022 Stacey Abrams Sore Loser Award.

Election Day in Arizona included real problems in Maricopa County, home to Phoenix and more than half the state’s population. But it simply isn’t believable that these snafus cost Ms. Lake the election. How did she perform in Maricopa specifically, compared with other Republicans?

Ms. Lake received 77,342 fewer votes than GOP state Treasurer Kimberly Yee.

Ms. Lake received 39,165 fewer votes than the combined GOP U.S. House candidates.

Ms. Lake received 23,901 fewer votes than GOP county prosecutor Rachel Mitchell.

These figures are especially striking because voter interest wanes down the ballot. Compared with the Governor’s race, 78,000 fewer people voted for local prosecutor. Yet Ms. Mitchell still won more raw ballots than Ms. Lake.

If granular numbers tell the story better, the Arizona Republic points to a Maricopa precinct called Bayshore, where it says Republicans have an 11-point registration advantage. The state’s three Trumpiest politicians all lost the precinct. Ms. Lake garnered 2,003 votes. Senate aspirant Blake Masters took 1,911. Secretary of State nominee Mark Finchem had 1,877.


Ms. Yee won Bayshore with 2,229 votes, 11% more than Ms. Lake. Ms. Mitchell earned 2,080. A GOP state Senator had 2,120. The takeaway? Ms. Lake would have won if she hadn’t alienated mainstream Republicans. But she called John McCain a “loser” and echoed President Trump’s debunked 2020 fraud claims. Some GOP voters don’t want a Governor who will say almost anything for a pat on the head from Mr. Trump.

The screw-up in Maricopa was that many ballot printers were producing ink too light to be scanned by on-site tabulators, though it was “easily readable by the human eye,” the county says. A Washington Post analysis found that precincts with printer issues were 37% Republican, close to the 35% for the county overall. Some affected areas were heavily Democratic.

The county says the longest reported wait time at 85% of its 223 vote centers was under 45 minutes, and half were under 15 minutes. But at seven locations it was 80 to 115 minutes. This is not acceptable.

Maricopa should promise it won’t happen again and acknowledge that some potential voters could have been discouraged. On the other hand, the county’s model is flexible: Residents aren’t locked into a polling place and can cast a ballot at any voting site. Many people surely routed around bottlenecks.

As a fail-safe, ballots that won’t scan can go into a secure slot on the tabulator box, marked with a number 3, to be tallied later. Yet conspiratorial Republicans urged voters to refuse. “DO NOT PUT YOUR BALLOT IN ‘BOX 3,’” tweeted Arizona GOP Chair Kelli Ward. In the end, 16,724 ballots went into those slots. The county says all were tabulated. Another 206 voters checked in at one site and cast a ballot at another.

Ms. Lake’s argument is that fed-up voters left the line or even stayed home. Perhaps some did, Democrats included: After all, Governor-elect Katie Hobbs won Maricopa, 51.1% to 48.6%. But how can Ms. Lake blame no-shows for her loss, when other GOP candidates in Maricopa outran her by tens of thousands of votes?

Arizona is waiting on Cochise County to certify its results, and then Ms. Lake is promising to challenge the election in court. We’ll see how that turns out. One of her claims is that Ms. Hobbs, as the current Secretary of State, was “the woman in charge of running her own election.” Where have we heard that one before? Oh, right, Stacey Abrams in Georgia in 2018

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« Reply #2377 on: December 02, 2022, 05:50:37 AM »
Republicans Need to Embrace Early Voting
Election Day matters less than it used to. Unless the GOP adapts, it is doomed to keep losing.
By Arthur Herman
Dec. 1, 2022 1:00 pm ET


Disappointment over the red wave that didn’t happen has led to soul-searching and recriminations among Republicans. Some blame Donald Trump, others Mitch McConnell and Kevin McCarthy. Still others blame the Supreme Court’s reversal of Roe v. Wade. Republicans need to craft a new message or better package the old message. Republicans agree that they can turn things around before the 2024 election, but only if Mr. Trump doesn’t run—or only if he does.


But the GOP’s real problem wasn’t its message or the messengers. It was a more basic failure: not understanding or accepting how Americans today participate in elections. Early voting and mail-in balloting have irrevocably changed things. Election Day no longer counts as it once did. Yet Republicans continue to rely on a massive Election Day turnout to prevail, while conceding the rest of the electoral terrain to Democrats. When Democrats win, some Republicans blame election fraud or unfair practices instead of their own failure to adjust their ground game.

In fact, the more that Republicans decry mail-in ballots and early voting, and wish that somehow they could elect governors and state legislators who will bring back the good old days and the old rules, the more they miss an opportunity to seize the new electoral terrain from their opponents. If Republicans don’t recognize the new rules that shape elections, 2024 will be as disappointing as 2022, if not more so.

Forty-six states allow early in-person voting; 27 don’t require voters to justify using an absentee or mail-in ballot. Eight states, including Nevada and Oregon, conduct elections primarily by mail. Twenty-five states, including Florida, New York, and California, allow “ballot harvesting,” in which someone other than the voter hands in absentee or mail-in ballots. According to the Los Angeles Times, this year nearly 46 million voters cast their ballots before Election Day. That’s more than one-third (37%) of the total 122 million votes cast in the 2018 midterms, which was the highest midterm turnout rate since 1914.


TargetSmart, a political-data firm, calculated on Oct. 24 that 55% of those early voters were Democrats, while less than 34.5% were Republicans. In Pennsylvania in 2020, more than half the ballots cast were either mail-in or absentee. This year in Pennsylvania’s crucial Senate and gubernatorial contests, by Nov. 5 Democrats made up more than 80% of voters 18 to 29 who had voted early, while Republicans had barely 15%, with unaffiliated voters at 5%. Overall, the Washington Post estimated that one-third of all votes in the 2022 midterms would be cast early.

Republicans ignore early voting and mail-in balloting at their peril. According to Gallup, from 2010 to 2014 Republicans had the edge in early voting. But in the 2018 midterms, the GOP lead had slipped to 46% compared with 44.7% for Democrats. By the Biden-Trump election, the Democrats had a 54% to 32% advantage over Republicans, with 38% of independents voting before Election Day.

This suggests that Republican early voters, combined with a majority of their independent counterparts, could overwhelm the Democrats—but not if their candidates wait for Election Day to bring home the vote.


What can Republicans do to address the new electoral reality? First, make mail-in balloting an opportunity to flood the zone with sample ballots for registered voters. In Nevada, for example, every registered voter gets a mail-in ballot. Why not send a sample ballot to each a day or two earlier, with the GOP choices clearly marked and highlighted? Mail-in voting can be a powerful messaging opportunity. So can ballot harvesting, with GOP precinct workers gathering properly marked ballots from friends and neighbors.

Second, don’t wait for televised debates or TV ads to turn the tide in the election’s final days. The Pennsylvania Senate debate between Mehmet Oz and John Fetterman should have exposed the folly of this 1960s-style campaign strategy. Instead, the decisive platform for delivering messages is social media, operating in a longer time frame that fits with Americans’ new voting habits.

Richard Nixonshowed in 1968 how to use television to win elections by answering callers’ questions in a telethon. The next Republican president will be the one who understands how to use social media—not to berate and belittle opponents, let alone to discourage early voting as Mr. Trump did this cycle, but to build a compelling conservative narrative over the expanded timeline for voting.

Finally, after the 2008 election Republicans set up a GOP Data Center, with information about voters’ habits and where they live. This trove could be used to create a new strategy for mobilizing traditional Republican voters with early-voting initiatives.

Republicans have been reluctant to abandon the traditions and mystique of Election Day. They should heed the wisdom of the French general who summed up the Charge of the Light Brigade: “It is magnificent, but it is not war.” Republican reliance on Election Day turnout is magnificent, but it isn’t politics in today’s America.

Mr. Herman is a senior fellow at the Hudson Institute.

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Re: The electoral process, vote fraud, SEIU/ACORN et al, etc.
« Reply #2378 on: December 02, 2022, 06:24:10 AM »
"Republicans have been reluctant to abandon the traditions and mystique of Election Day. They should heed the wisdom of the French general who summed up the Charge of the Light Brigade: “It is magnificent, but it is not war.” Republican reliance on Election Day turnout is magnificent, but it isn’t politics in today’s America."

yup

and that is one reason we usually lose


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Our friend Rick, from two years ago
« Reply #2380 on: December 02, 2022, 01:21:09 PM »
A smart friend writes:

If you don’t have sufficient internal controls over any process, there will be fraud.  The reasons why the chief executives of publicly traded companies must now certify their filed financial statements under penalty of perjury were the frauds at Enron, WorldCom and Global Crossing, among others.  Executives at those companies saw loopholes in the laws, gamed the system as it was back then, and took advantage of them.  To the detriment of their shareholders and the public.  In those cases, the number of people involved in the frauds was not widespread, but the amount of the fraud was widespread.  And the perpetrators rationalized their acts by things like, “We didn’t see any rule requiring us to do something different.”  “It was our professional judgment that we could capitalize those costs.”  “The auditors reviewed the numbers and didn’t say they were inaccurate.”  And even these new certifications did not stop channel stuffing at MiMedx, the massive fraud in Germany at Wirecard and the recent issues at Nikola.

The same issue has arisen in this year’s election.  There were not enough internal controls in place to safeguard the election against fraud because the system was designed for in-person voting.  A mail-in system was patched on top of it.  But just like the Patriot Act of 2001-02, no one thought through the wisdom and long range consequences of adding layers and telling them to mesh rather than designing a system to do just that.  When you have partisan elected Secretaries of State in charge of voting as well as locally elected Clerks or Election Supervisors, that is a recipe for fraud unless sufficient internal controls are implemented to restrain their natural competitive impulses.

The natural inclination of competitive people, whether in business or in politics, is to win.  That will cause some to cheat when they view it to be necessary for their success.  We saw that last election when a Republican candidate for House in NC hired a notorious cheater to solicit and collect absentee ballots.  The solution was a do-over for that House seat.  We also saw it in 1960 when JFK won in a manner similar to Biden appears to have won this year.  By that, I mean close in-State contests but no down ballot coattails for the winner along with allegations of voting fraud.  In 1960, it was an open secret that Richard Daley’s Chicago machine tipped the Illinois vote in favor of JFK with a number of dead people voting.  And there were many indications of fraud in West Virginia in 1960.  Nixon conceded rather than put the country through the ordeal of what we are going through now.  And that concession led to a different history.  Including JFK’s assassination.

We have an unsafe election system because various States made it that way and the various elected officials in charge of making it safe chose not to implement sufficient internal controls.  They chose not to purge their voter rolls of dead people.  They advocated for no identification.  They solicited voters to vote by mail.  They permitted political operatives to be out in the streets soliciting ballots.  They advocated for no signature verification.  The list goes on and on.  These people made these decisions for various reasons, but the most likely reasons were:  1) avoid political controversy to keep their jobs; and, 2) they thought their side could game the system to their advantage.  Notice that I have not called out one party here.

And, if you think all the motivations here are pure, then think about every redistricting battle that takes place after every census.  A lot of them, if not all of them, end up being challenged in court because the parties in power in each State are trying to game that system.  And that started just after the creation of our republic by Elbridge Gerry who drew the new districts for Massachusetts in 1810 and who later became Madison’s VP.

Whichever candidate wins the Electoral College in two weeks, this election is tainted because the people in charge in the various States at issue failed to install sufficient internal controls for a vote by mail system.  If we do not resolve to fix these issues and continue to vote by mail, then things will change irreparably for the worse because each losing side will rightfully believe that their candidate was cheated out of victory.

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Hobbs censoring Lake via Twitter
« Reply #2381 on: December 07, 2022, 11:17:08 AM »



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Re: The electoral process, vote fraud, SEIU/ACORN et al, etc.
« Reply #2384 on: December 11, 2022, 08:57:42 AM »
leave it to anything will name Wall Street on it to wring every dime out of you.

and them likely sell out data to others to make even more profit.

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Re: The electoral process, vote fraud, SEIU/ACORN et al, etc.
« Reply #2385 on: December 11, 2022, 09:34:01 AM »
I like Kim Strassel and they used to put most of the opinion page free on the internet.  Then new owners found out there's no other reason to buy their paper.

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Re: The electoral process, vote fraud, SEIU/ACORN et al, etc.
« Reply #2386 on: December 11, 2022, 08:16:38 PM »
I will be back in NC on my home computer in a few days and can post it then.  Feel free to remind me.


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"Election Day" is the law
« Reply #2388 on: December 12, 2022, 09:43:01 AM »
"Election Day" is the law, Federal Law:

According to 2 U.S. Code § 7, "the Tuesday next after the 1st Monday in November, in every even numbered year," is the date for electing members of Congress and, quadrennially, per 3 U.S. Code § 1, presidential delegates to the Electoral College. These laws specify November — not October or September. Neither statute allows for voting on Halloween or just after Americans leave the sand dunes on Labor Day.

https://jewishworldreview.com/1222/murdock121222.php3



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AZ: Shocking Discrepancy found in Maricopa Vote Count
« Reply #2393 on: December 15, 2022, 08:37:20 AM »
https://www.westernjournal.com/shocking-discrepancy-found-maricopa-vote-count-exactly-hobbs-needed-win-lawsuit/?fbclid=IwAR2rMePsWoGWKh2-Rvu8qPGLDDoJ7mvGulZ9DHxAr-wWDMBaxH2_EGEeqCs

ecember 14, 2022
Election-Fraud Corruption Is Deeper than Anyone Can Imagine
By Jack Gleason
Multiple polls conclude that upwards of 70 percent of Americans think our elections are filled with fraud.  But we're learning it's deeper and more organized than just a few thousand mules dropping fake ballots into election boxes.

The corruption involves both political parties.  Big Tech manipulates search engine results, and takes down "dangerous" websites.  With Elon Musk's revelations, we now see that our own FBI is working actively with Twitter to censor conservatives and silence dissenting speech.  It's next to certain that Twitter wasn't the only social media giant the FBI was giving orders to.  And the mainstream media are all in on ridiculing, dismissing, or attacking people willing to speak out.

Anyone who floats the idea that the Republican red wave disappeared because of poor GOP tactics, or inadequate candidates, is either stupid or part of this conspiracy.  In fact, it's an excellent "RINO detector"!

Any "conservative" news organization that is not focusing 100 percent on the corruption that has been unearthed in Maricopa County is complicit.

The left and their RINO allies, along with who-knows-how-many other corporate and foreign actors, have set up the most complicated electoral fraud system in history.  Every step of the voting process — from who is allowed to vote, how they vote, how the votes are tallied, to how the results are reported — is compromised.  They are so far into their corruption that being exposed is not an option.  They will do literally anything to avoid being caught.


A good place to start is with the voter rolls.

They are so rife with inaccuracies, full of outdated and blatantly false information, that no election can be considered safe.  The data are completely unsecured and can be manipulated at will.  And most efforts to clean up the rolls are either ignored or done so slowly or incompletely as to be useless.


One county in Arizona noted "42,000 changes to the election rolls within weeks of the election — most were illegal.  21,000 new voters added to the election rolls, within 29 days of the election — almost every one is illegal.  8,000 voters appear to live in a business — each one would be illegal.  1,951 people received ballots at one address, and then voted from a different address — every one is illegal.  The Republican candidate — with an 11-point lead in the polls — lost by around 21,000 votes to a woman who was afraid to debate her!"

Absentee ballots are the currency of election fraud.

When you can manipulate the voting rolls, you can easily create "floating ballots" in states where absentee ballots are mailed out to every voter.  Just change a digit in the ZIP code, and a corrupt postal worker can easily gather up those ballots when they return as undeliverable.  All you have to do is line up a buddy at the Post Office and send incorrectly addressed ballots to his ZIP code.


Another method is to change or delete box numbers for apartment buildings or college campuses.  Again, when they come back as undeliverable, they can be snapped up to be saved up for Election Day.  If it looks as though your candidate is losing by 2,000 votes, just fill in 2,500, and voilà: victory!

The addresses in the voter rolls need only be changed for a single day so the ballots can go to the wrong addresses, and the data are changed back.  "In a real-life example, this month, we found a county that changed 31,500 zip codes, yet the voter remained at the same address."


There's no way to know this is happening unless someone happens to download the manipulated data at the right time.  An almost undetectable crime.

Another type of phantom voter is someone on the rolls who hasn't voted in the last two or three elections.  Send an absentee ballot for him at a wrong address, and vote for him.  Heard cases where in-person voters are told on Election Day that they've already voted?  Their absentee ballot was filled out by someone else first.

More detail can be found at "How to steal an election."

The vote-counting process is completely insecure.

There's a great video from 2020 with over a million views, focusing on Michigan vote-tabulating procedures, which are similar in most of the rest of the country.  Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai, MIT Ph.D., explains the issues affecting voting system accuracy and exposes a "Weighted Race Feature" in the actual user manual for "Global Election Systems" software that allows system operators to change votes by any percentage for any candidate.

This "feature" is present in almost all voting systems and is seen as early as 2001.

In one case, Ayyadurai's team analyzed early voting and Election Day voting in four counties in the 2020 Michigan election.  They concluded that in three major counties, Trump's votes were decreased by at least 69,000, and Biden's votes were increased by 69,000, using a computer algorithm within the voting machine software.

At the 21:00 mark, they explain how it happened.  In Michigan, you can vote by selecting individual candidates or simply choose to vote for one political party or the other.  Obviously, a precinct with a lot of Republican-party-line voters would also have a lot of Republicans chosen by the vote-in-each-contest voters.  But somehow, 2020 data showed that the more Republican-leaning the precinct, the more votes were different from the one-party voters vs. the individual voters — always in favor of Biden!  This demonstrates likely use of the weighted race feature, which was absent in a predominantly Democrat county.

Even more damning is that when the data are charted, the line is perfectly straight, and the slope of the line in each county is very similar to the others.  This could not happen without a mathematical formula being applied to the actual number of votes.

So what can be done?  Looking up individual entries on voter rolls, comparing them to local property records for non-existing addresses, and submitting changes to the local Boards of Elections would take hundreds of years.

Fractal computing to the rescue.

Now fraud-savvy groups are analyzing voter rolls and using "fractal computing" to compare them to other data — county property records that show the type of building at each address so a voter can't register if his address is a vacant lot or a convenience store, post office databases that show who has moved out of state, or a deceased voter who is listed as alive, then votes, then goes back to being deceased the next day.  What if a single house with one bathroom has 35 people listed as living there?

"One team in Wisconsin challenged almost 400,000 alleged phantoms.  A Georgia team, in one county, 37,000."

The one thing in common among the candidates victimized by this level of fraud is not that they are Republicans, but that they are MAGA conservatives.  It's clear that both parties use these tactics to favor Democrats and RINOs.

We need voter ID and permanent voter registration cards, publically viewable software, hand-marked paper ballots, and all data to be kept for public viewing.

If we expect the RINOs to actively work to end election fraud, we are just plain stupid.  We must insist on new leadership for the RNC, support opposition to Kevin McCarthy as speaker of the House, and hope that turtle McConnell is ousted as the Senate minority leader.  And do everything we can to support Kari Lake in her lawsuit to overturn the Arizona gubernatorial election.

Jack Gleason is a conservative political writer.  For other websites, to share inside information for important stories, article requests, or comments, contact him at jackgleason9@protonmail.com.
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PA County to recount 2020 vote
« Reply #2394 on: December 16, 2022, 10:08:16 AM »
Pennsylvania County to Recount 2020 Election Results in 2023
By Beth Brelje December 15, 2022 Updated: December 15, 2022biggersmaller Print

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Persistent questions from voters and a petition with 5,000 signatures have convinced the Lycoming County Commissioners in Pennsylvania to recount its 2020 election results.

Around the state, loosely organized groups of voters have been asking various counties for recounts from 2020.

“In our county, they approached our commissioners and leveled allegations that there were thousands of uncounted votes in our county based on what I believe are nonsense statistics,” Lycoming County Director of Elections Forrest Lehman told The Epoch Times.

Groups of 20-80 people started attending county meetings asking for the recount. The county showed various information to answer their questions, Lehman said, but voters still wanted a recount and gathered some 5,000 signatures to make that request.

“That’s when county commissioners decided, as the board of elections, that if there are 5,000 people who signed this petition and have this belief, then we need to hand count these ballots in order to restore public trust in the outcomes of our elections,” Lehman said.

The county has about 70,000 registered voters and a population of around 120,000, so to the commissioners, 5,000 is a lot of signatures, he said.

“This is not something we want to do after every election, but we need to do it once, at least, in order to prove once and for all that our voting system counts the votes accurately and that there were not thousands of uncounted votes that were hidden by an algorithm or some other nonsense like that,” Lehman said.

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Electoral workers began processing ballots at Northampton County Courthouse in Easton, Penn., on Nov. 3, 2020. (Kena Betancur/AFP via Getty Images)
Hand Count
Lycoming County votes by machine. Voters fill in ovals on paper to indicate the candidate they want, then the paper is fed into a scanning machine where an image of the ballot is captured, and the vote is counted. The paper ballot is saved in a secure location. The scanned count is stored on a removable USB device on the scanning machine in each precinct, Lehman explained.

When the polls close, all precincts take their USB device to election headquarters, where each USB dumps its information into the county machine, and ultimately those vote totals are given to the Department of State for statewide totals.

That is not how the recount will go.

Instead, around 40 county staff members will hand count the nearly 60,000 paper ballots. They will look at two 2020 races—U.S. president and Pennsylvania auditor.

“We chose the auditor general as the second contest for two reasons,” Lehman said. “It is on the front of the ballot along with president, so that’ll eliminate the need to flip every ballot over. The other reason we picked auditor general is because that was a statewide contest that was won by a Republican. Because obviously the presidential contest was won by a Democrat.”

The county wants to look at voter behavior and see how often people split their vote between parties.

“There has been an inability to believe that voters might have split their tickets. That they might have voted for a Democratic president, but then they turned around and voted for a Republican for other offices,” Lehman said. “There’s been an inability to believe that people might do those things. Whereas, I absolutely know that people do those things because I see the ballots.”

He does not expect recount results to be precisely the same as the original report.

“We don’t expect that any recount of that many ballots is going to match one-to-one with the voting system,” Lehman said. “We expected that there will be human errors committed during that hand count.” But they also don’t expect to be off by the thousands, he said.

The Department of State sent counties a letter in November advising that, although the two year retention schedule for 2020 ballots was over in November, 2022, counties should look at their individual situations and, if they are challenges over the 2020 election, consider keeping the ballots longer. Lycoming County Commissioners intent to keep the ballots through 2023, Lehman said.

The recount will start Jan. 9 and could take a week or more.

“We have to get back to people being able to accept the outcomes of elections,” Lehman said. “Even if your side loses. You can’t just love democracy when you win.

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Re: The electoral process, vote fraud, SEIU/ACORN et al, etc.
« Reply #2399 on: December 22, 2022, 09:09:47 AM »
"The ‘Big D’ in the Democratic Party Is Denialism'

well written

so depressing how we are so powerless against the Lefts onslaught covered for and by the  MSM
which controls most of the airwaves......

Joe Scarborough is the biggest pig of all - used to be Republican ....... :-(

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