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Re: The electoral process, vote fraud, AZ Trial
« Reply #2400 on: December 23, 2022, 11:03:43 AM »
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2022/12/jack-clifford-lake-v-hobbs-day-2.php
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Defense attorney, it's Republican voters fault for waiting until election day to vote.



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WT: 2022 a Year of Victories for Election Integrity (?!?)
« Reply #2403 on: December 27, 2022, 08:47:43 AM »
2022: A year of victories for election integrity

Yet there is still more work to be done

By J. Christian Adams

The 2022 elections are over, and we can all breathe a sigh of relief that they largely followed the rule of law. Compared with the COVID19-infected 2020 elections, 2022 was a breeze. Americans woke up to the vulnerabilities in election administration and sought improvements.

After 2020, smart states passed reforms to strengthen election security. Court victories also bolstered the rule of law in elections.

A big win for the rule of law occurred in Delaware. The Public Interest Legal Foundation, of which I am president, blocked the Department of Elections from enforcing mail voting and same-day voter registration.

Mail-in voting and same-day registration confl icted with the Delaware Constitution. The state constitution allows absentee voting only in certain enumerated circumstances, such as being ill. The Delaware Constitution also provides reasonable registration procedures, not walk-up no-verification voting on Election Day.

In legislative debate, Delaware Speaker of the House Peter Schwartzkopf quipped, “I don’t know whether [the law’s] constitutional or not constitutional, and neither do you guys or anybody else in here.” No kidding.

He went further: “The best way to get this thing done is to hear this bill, move forward, and let a challenge go to the courts and let them decide it.”

Decide they did. Days before ballots were mailed, the Delaware Supreme Court ruled that both laws were unconstitutional. This ruling effectively stopped a lawless election in Delaware.

In another major win for the rule of law, the Wisconsin Supreme Court ruled in July that drop boxes would be allowed only at the offices of election clerks. Our friends at the Wisconsin Institute for Law and Liberty scored this win for the rule of law. The court said that the Wisconsin Elections Commission does not have the power to enact and change election statutes. That power belongs only to the Wisconsin Legislature.

In addition to victories for the rule of law, there were also victories for transparency in our elections. The Public Interest Legal Foundation won cases in North Carolina and in Pennsylvania to obtain records relating to foreigners registering and voting in our elections.

Foreigners participating in U.S. elections — either through glitches or deliberately — is a story the legacy media don’t want you to hear. But it is happening, and the vast majority of Americans care that it is happening.

Transparency matters. We know how to improve election administration only after we learn where it is breaking down. When Pennsylvania and North Carolina hide the facts about foreigners voting, it is impossible to fix these failures. It is also impossible to judge whether election officials adequately responded to the failures.

These victories were great steps that improved our election process in 2022. There is still much to be done, however, before the 2024 elections.

Many voter rolls across the country still contain thousands of duplicates, people who have moved or have died that need to be removed. We are currently in litigation with Michigan’s secretary of state for failing to remove over 25,000 deceased registrants from the voter roll, even after learning of the problems. Every deceased registrant is a problem, costing money to people who rely on lists and inviting far worse problems, especially in states where mail ballots are automatically mailed to every single registrant.

Voting by mail is the worst way to run an election. and states that allow it must enact safeguards to protect voting rights. This includes requiring some verification, such as requiring the unique voter number or driver’s license number of the registrant.

Vote-by-mail states must also require that all ballots arrive by Election Day. Americans deserve to know election results on election night, not two weeks later.

This year was filled with less chaos, but there is still more work to be done to improve the integrity of our elections.

J. Christian Adams is president of the Public Inter-est Legal Foundation, a former Justice Department attorney, and current commissioner on the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights

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WSJ: AZ: Kari lost
« Reply #2404 on: December 28, 2022, 05:21:28 AM »
Kari Lake’s Election Challenge Falls Flat
What a sad end to eight years of GOP success under Arizona Gov. Doug Ducey.
By The Editorial Board


Dec. 27, 2022 6:33 pm ET

Unsuccessful political candidates are entitled to go to court, but if they don’t have real evidence, it’s an exercise in begging to lose again. That’s what happened in Arizona to Kari Lake, the Republican gubernatorial contender who fell short by 0.7 percentage point, or 17,117 votes, which is outside of recount range.

“A court setting such a margin aside, as far as the Court is able to determine, has never been done in the history of the United States,” state Judge Peter Thompson ruled on Christmas Eve. “No system on this earth is perfect,” he added, but Arizona’s voting was “more than sufficient to comply with the law and conduct a valid election.”

Maricopa County, which includes Phoenix, had inexcusable problems with its ballot printers on Election Day, which contributed to long lines. But this was hardly the stuff of conspiracy theories. As Judge Thompson summarized the evidence, a county election technician testified that the most effective printer fix was “shaking the toner cartridge.” Other helpful measures included “letting the printers warm up” or “cleaning the corona wire.”

Some ballots were printed slightly too small, 19 inches instead of the usual 20 inches, which stopped the county’s tabulators from accepting them. Ms. Lake argued this must have been intentional and malicious, despite having no direct evidence. The county said that when technicians were trying to solve the toner problems, a few of them might have incorrectly set those printers on a mode called “shrink to fit.”


Yet too-small ballots were still tallied, Judge Thompson said: “Plaintiff’s own expert acknowledged that a ballot that was unable to be read at the vote center could be deposited by a voter, duplicated by a bipartisan board onto a readable ballot, and—in the final analysis—counted.” Although some Maricopa voters might have been dissuaded by lines, “there was no evidence at Trial” that anyone was “turned away or refused a ballot.”

Ms. Lake said she intends to appeal, but the evidence suggests that what really cost her the election was ticket-splitting. In Maricopa, Ms. Lake won 77,342 fewer votes than GOP state Treasurer Kimberly Yee; 39,165 fewer than the GOP’s U.S. House candidates; and 23,901 fewer than a local GOP prosecutor. The same trend is evident in precinct data.

Maricopa County asked the court to impose sanctions on Ms. Lake, arguing she “decided well before the election that if the results did not favor her, she would deny that they were legitimate.” On Christmas, Ms. Lake tweeted an article claiming the judge’s ruling probably “was ghostwritten” by “left-wing attorneys.” She later deleted the tweet. Judge Thompson on Tuesday declined the request for sanctions but ordered Ms. Lake to cover about $33,000 in expert witness fees for the defense.

Judges also have rejected lawsuits from Mark Finchem, the Republican who lost the Secretary of State race by 4.8 points, or 120,208 votes, as well as Abe Hamadeh, who lost the close Attorney General’s race by 511 ballots. What a sad and ignominious end to eight years of successful GOP governance in Arizona. Gov. Doug Ducey has cut taxes and expanded school choice, while winning re-election in 2018 by 14 points.

That’s a record that would stand up well on a presidential debate stage in 2024. Alas, Arizonans will have to fight for the next four years to keep Mr. Ducey’s work from being undone.

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Re: The electoral process, vote fraud, SEIU/ACORN et al, etc.
« Reply #2407 on: January 13, 2023, 05:39:29 AM »
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/democrats-push-amend-constitution-16-year-olds-vote

All the while teachers unions form teaching subjects that enforce Democrat policies only.

"It’s our younger generation that will face the long-term consequences of our political challenges – like stymied action on climate change, gun violence, and reproductive rights," said Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse, D-R.I. "We need to defend their right to vote."

Notice there is nothing in there about 32+ trillion in the national debt due to infinite spending initiatives.

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Re: The electoral process, vote fraud, SEIU/ACORN et al, etc.
« Reply #2408 on: January 13, 2023, 06:23:33 AM »
16 year olds CAN vote.  When they're 18, like everybody else.

We should repeal the 18 year old.  We have new information their brains aren't fully developed until 26.

Minimum drinking age is 21.  Cannot buy legal cannibis in Colorado untill 21.  Why is that?
https://www.cdc.gov/alcohol/fact-sheets/minimum-legal-drinking-age.htm#:~:text=The%20MLDA%20in%20the%20United,varied%20from%20state%20to%20state.

At 16 and 18, their developing brains are still attending indoctrination, not out thinking on their own.

Great, divisive issue for Democrats.  Get them hating conservatives even more before they do go out to vote.

What do kids know about world affairs and US economics at 16?  Only what they're told.

We already know educational institutions don't allow conservative views.
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Re: The electoral process, vote fraud, SEIU/ACORN et al, etc.
« Reply #2411 on: January 14, 2023, 01:50:03 PM »
I had high hopes for Kari-- gutsy, witty, good-looking, and articulate.   Since then on the election fraud issue she has been portrayed with effect as Trump 2.0. 

It would be awesome that if/when the facts come out, she is vindicated.






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so exactly why did some repubs not vote for her?
« Reply #2417 on: January 23, 2023, 09:38:05 AM »
https://www.newsweek.com/kari-lake-lost-arizona-governor-election-republican-voters-1775682

I tried to look more at sources (and I find Newsweek and MSFT - liberal sources )

and Arizona Central .

but no definite identification of the reasons why .

some referral to her calling out RINOs only
very vague and incomplete conclusion or "analysis" to me.

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Re: so exactly why did some repubs not vote for her?
« Reply #2418 on: January 23, 2023, 01:02:14 PM »
Some thoughts:

1. The term Arizona Republican has meant centrist moderate for decades.  cf. Mccain, Flake, Sandra Day O'Connor.

2. Arizona's rapid population growth is made up of people from other places with other voting habits, people from Minnesota, for example. That is why it moved left and became a politically divided state.

3. They omit the other possible reason (cheating) she lost.

4. We heard the good about Kari Lake but they heard the bad, that she's a batsh*t crazy election denier, and supporter of he who shall not be named.

5. To attack 'RINOs' while in a fight to unite is of questionable efficacy.
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Re: The electoral process, vote fraud, SEIU/ACORN et al, etc.
« Reply #2421 on: January 25, 2023, 08:50:38 AM »
AZ: Kari Lake claims 40K illegal votes

look at the signatures

don't need to be this guy to see the sigs DO NOT MATCH

https://www.beckett-authentication.com/steve-grad

outrageous!
where is the criminal investigation ?

the Dem governor who was credited for the victory will simple ignore this.
DOJ will ignore this.

media will scream election denier
:x

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Re: The electoral process, vote fraud, SEIU/ACORN et al, etc.
« Reply #2422 on: January 25, 2023, 09:44:24 AM »
My sense of things is that people have already formed their opinions and have moved on. 

She has asserted the 40K, but where is the presentation of her proof? e.g. in a major serious video?


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Re: The electoral process, vote fraud, SEIU/ACORN et al, etc.
« Reply #2423 on: January 25, 2023, 10:19:52 AM »
maybe I jumped the gun

how does she know it is 40K

are there these many signatures that do not match

if true why cannot this not be demonstrated?
is she being blocked from doing so?





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Re: The electoral process, vote fraud, SEIU/ACORN et al, etc.
« Reply #2427 on: January 29, 2023, 09:23:14 AM »
Very good response-- thank you GM.


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They actually don’t care
« Reply #2434 on: February 22, 2023, 12:36:56 PM »

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Re: The electoral process, vote fraud, SEIU/ACORN et al, etc.
« Reply #2435 on: February 22, 2023, 06:07:18 PM »
A suitable place for this post.

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FOX and Dominion lawsuit
« Reply #2436 on: February 25, 2023, 11:22:15 AM »
Well this is inconvenient , , ,


https://thehill.com/homenews/media/3863605-five-top-revelations-from-dominions-explosive-court-filing-in-fox-news-lawsuit/

The Pravdas have been having a field day with this, my many headlines (deliberately?) giving the impression that FOX doubted all claims, not just Powell & Wood.

I trust we here will remember that we called out Powell & Wood at the time.

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Re: The electoral process, vote fraud, SEIU/ACORN et al, etc.
« Reply #2438 on: February 25, 2023, 11:45:04 AM »
"we called out Powell & Wood at the time"
you did
I think I held my judgement with wishful thinking and maybe a sucker who believed, or wanted to believe these people had the evidence to prove what they were saying.

Is not the legal standard "malicious intent"?

Can that be proven to a preponderance of the evidence level here ?

Appears the suit is filed in Delaware :

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/3863605-five-top-revelations-from-dominions-explosive-court-filing-in-fox-news-lawsuit/

Dominion looks like it has locations in Colorado and Canada
Maybe incorporated in DE?

At least suit not filed in DC
which would be an automatic  several billion verdict against Fox  for sure .



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Re: The electoral process, vote fraud, SEIU/ACORN et al, etc.
« Reply #2439 on: February 25, 2023, 11:53:39 AM »


"we called out Powell & Wood at the time"

you did


Thank you.

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zuckerberg will cease funding elections
« Reply #2440 on: February 27, 2023, 04:10:57 PM »
will cease funding elections

reported in 2022
yet I keep seeing bits and pieces in the conservative news he is spending ?$80 mill to do just that . MSM ignoring on purpose

what the heck is this !  :x

since when does private money get accepted to fund elections ?

we need to keep this guy out of our elections

https://www.thecentersquare.com/north_carolina/just-say-no-zuckerbucks-for-elections-declined-by-two-in-old-north-state/article_3d0917ea-9830-11ed-957c-df4969ee3768.html

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every slimy move during the '20 election by crats
« Reply #2441 on: February 28, 2023, 05:50:31 AM »
which we all saw before our eyes could not be "proven".  Now the crats and their propaganda ministry and with  their shyster lawyers can turn it around .

https://news.yahoo.com/murdoch-testified-fox-commentators-endorsed-222614792.html

[I don't care personally but
electioneering and fraud happened.]

And now the enemies see a legal means to extract blood from Fox .

funny how NYT WP CNN MSPCP can't be sued for Russia collusion hoax and more.
they knew it was false.


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Re: The electoral process, vote fraud, SEIU/ACORN et al, etc.
« Reply #2442 on: February 28, 2023, 06:42:57 AM »
"funny how NYT WP CNN MSPCP can't be sued for Russia collusion hoax and more.
they knew it was false."

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Re: The electoral process, vote fraud, SEIU/ACORN et al, etc.
« Reply #2443 on: February 28, 2023, 07:00:37 AM »
"funny how NYT WP CNN MSPCP can't be sued for Russia collusion hoax and more.
they knew it was false."

It's almost like the same lawfare used against Alex Jones will be used against everyone else eventually.


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Re: The electoral process, vote fraud, SEIU/ACORN et al, etc.
« Reply #2444 on: February 28, 2023, 07:32:01 AM »
A point better developed in the Media thread.




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Alaskan bill to endrun electoral college
« Reply #2448 on: March 11, 2023, 06:42:33 PM »
The Alaska Senate Judiciary Committee is holding a public teleconferenced hearing this Monday March 13th at 1:30 pm on (SB-61) National Popular Vote Interstate Compact. If you live in Alaska please contact your State Senators & Representatives and urge them to oppose this dangerous NPV legislation, immediately! You can also call today and ask to testify remotely at 844-586-9085
https://www.akleg.gov/basis/Bill/Detail/33?Root=SB61