Author Topic: Issues in the American Creed (Constitutional Law and related matters) SCOTUS  (Read 663081 times)



Crafty_Dog

  • Administrator
  • Power User
  • *****
  • Posts: 69318
    • View Profile
Separation of Powers: 5th Circuit
« Reply #1702 on: May 23, 2022, 07:31:34 AM »




Constitutional Thunder Out of the Fifth Circuit
An appeals court ruling against the Securities and Exchange Commission is a blow to the runaway administrative state.
By The Editorial BoardFollow
May 22, 2022 4:27 pm ET


That rumble you hear in the distance is federal courts moving to re-establish the proper understanding of the Constitution’s separation of powers. The latest legal bombshell is a decision last week by the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals (based in Louisiana) against the Securities and Exchange Commission.

***
The case involves hedge-fund founder George Jarkesy and an investment adviser, and it goes to the heart of whether the Constitution still protects individual liberty. In 2013 the SEC charged the pair with securities fraud for allegedly inflating the value of fund assets. The agency said the higher valuation allowed them to earn higher management fees.

Mr. Jarkesy wasn’t allowed to defend himself in a court under Article III of the Constitution. Instead the case came before an SEC administrative law judge, who ruled against Mr. Jarkesy and his business partner. The commissioners then affirmed the decision and ordered them to pay a civil penalty and disgorge allegedly ill-gotten gains. The commission barred Mr. Jarkesy from the securities industry.

Merits of the case aside, the constitutional problem is that the SEC acted as prosecutor, judge and jury. The Dodd-Frank Act lets the SEC decide whether to bring charges in its own tribunal or federal court. The agency usually chooses the former, as do other agencies such as the Federal Trade Commission.

Enter the Fifth Circuit, which held in Jarkesy v. SEC that the SEC’s tribunals, as currently structured, violate the Seventh Amendment’s right to trial by jury. As Judge Jennifer Walker Elrod explains for the 2-1 panel majority, the jury guarantee applies to all suits of “common law,” as understood at the time of the founding. This includes fraud prosecutions.

The Fifth Circuit also ruled that Congress’s delegation of legislative power to the SEC to decide where to bring fraud enforcement actions violates the Constitution’s separation of powers. Congress may grant agencies prosecutorial discretion to decide what cases to bring, Judge Elrod noted, but it cannot give them free rein to decide their judicial forum.

Notably, she cites Justice Neil Gorsuch’s dissent in Gundy v. U.S. (2019) in which he said the Supreme Court should revisit its nondelegation doctrine that has given too much leeway to the executive branch to perform legislative functions. Two new conservative Justices have joined the Court since Gundy and may be willing to take up their colleague’s invitation.

It gets better. The Fifth Circuit found that the job protections of administrative law judges violate the constitutional imperative that the President “take care that the laws be faithfully executed.” The Supreme Court has interpreted this to mean that a President must have power over officers’ appointment and removal.

Yet SEC judges can only be removed by the five SEC commissioners if the government’s Merit Systems Protection Board (MSPB) finds cause. Commissioners and MSPB members can only be removed by the President for cause. SEC judges are insulated from Presidential removal by two layers of for-cause protection. This violates the Court’s Free Enterprise Fund (2010) precedent.

All of this is a blow to the SEC, but it’s a blessing for the proper understanding of the Constitution. The agency isn’t used to losing cases since defendants often settle to avoid the expense and hassle of litigation. Credit to Mr. Jarkesy for fighting back. The Biden Administration could seek an en banc review of the panel decision, but Judge Elrod’s opinion is sound and unlikely to be reversed by the full Fifth Circuit.

The ruling applies only to the SEC, but it could encourage similar challenges against other independent agencies. Some conservative Justices have hinted that they’d like to overturn the Court’s wrong-headed Humphrey’s Executor (1935) precedent that upheld limitations on the President’s ability to remove members of bipartisan independent agencies. The Biden Administration will have to decide if it wants to take that risk by appealing to the Supreme Court.

***
High Court watchers are preoccupied these days with looming decisions on social issues, especially abortion and gun rights. But the movement to rein in the runaway administrative state is arguably more important for limiting government and protecting liberty. This is an essential project of the conservative judicial movement, and the Fifth Circuit ruling shows the thunder coming from the judicial provinces.

Crafty_Dog

  • Administrator
  • Power User
  • *****
  • Posts: 69318
    • View Profile
Sotomayor actually shows some class
« Reply #1703 on: June 18, 2022, 01:13:45 PM »
Supreme Court Justice Sotomayor Reveals Her Thoughts About Clarence Thomas
By Jack Phillips June 17, 2022 Updated: June 17, 2022biggersmaller Print

0:00
2:31



1

Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor on Thursday praised fellow Justice Clarence Thomas for his dedication to the high court’s integrity in light of recent protests and threats that were made against the institution.

Speaking at the American Constitution Society, Sotomayor, who was nominated by former President Barack Obama, said Thomas is a “man who cares deeply about the court as an institution.”

And while the two often disagree in their opinions, Sotomayor said she and Thomas have a “common understanding about people and kindness towards them,” adding, “Justice Thomas is the one justice in the building that literally knows every employee’s name, every one of them. And not only does he know their names, he remembers their families’ names and histories.”

“He’s the first one who will go up to someone when you’re walking with him and say, ‘Is your son okay? How’s your daughter doing in college?’ He’s the first one that, when my stepfather died, sent me flowers in Florida,” Sotomayor added of Thomas, who was nominated by former President George H.W. Bush.

Her comments come as the Supreme Court remains poised to release decisions on several high-profile cases, including potentially overturning Roe v. Wade. The Supreme Court will also soon issue a ruling in a New York gun rights case that could expand the scope of protection afforded under the Constitution’s Second Amendment—the first major decision on a gun-rights case in more than a decade.

Several weeks ago, the Supreme Court confirmed that a staffer may have leaked a majority opinion signaling that the court will indeed overturn Roe v. Wade, triggering a cascade of protests as well as threats against the institution.

An armed individual was arrested outside the Maryland home of Justice Brett Kavanaugh last week. The suspect allegedly told investigators that he was planning to kill Kavanaugh because he believed the justice would side with rulings to overturn Roe v. Wade and would side to expand gun rights in the United States.

“We are becoming addicted to wanting particular outcomes, not living with the outcomes we don’t like,” Thomas said after the draft was leaked. “We can’t be an institution that can be bullied into giving you just the outcomes you want. The events from earlier this week are a symptom of that.”

Later, Thomas commented on the leak, saying that “I do think that what happened at the court is tremendously bad.”

“I wonder how long we’re going to have these institutions at the rate we’re undermining them,” Thomas continued, adding that there is a “different attitude of the young” in how they view institutions and the rule of law.

DougMacG

  • Power User
  • ***
  • Posts: 18207
    • View Profile
Re: Issues in the American Creed (Constitutional Law and related matters)
« Reply #1704 on: June 25, 2022, 09:57:41 AM »
See our discussion on the abortion thread.

ccp,  I had not read the Thomas opinion and had not seen your post with this link what I wrote that about Justice Thomas.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/06/24/thomas-constitutional-rights-00042256

I don't want the issue of gay marriage revisited  but the way that it happened, a 5-4 vote in the Supreme Court, was not in his opinion the way to resolve the matter of public policy regarding elected governments recognizing marriages.

I assume no other Justices signing on with this opinion.

Yes, I would call it something between unhelpful and politically tone deaf for him to say (write) that now, but political implications aren't his interest.

I like what crafty wrote about unenumerated rights:

"...prefer a Natural Law (see "endowed by their Creator", "laws of Nature and of Nature's God" and our Ninth Amendment itself) as a basis for Privacy, Self-defense, Parental Rights and other rights "not otherwise enumerated".
« Last Edit: June 25, 2022, 10:06:55 AM by DougMacG »

ccp

  • Power User
  • ***
  • Posts: 18471
    • View Profile
Re: Issues in the American Creed (Constitutional Law and related matters)
« Reply #1705 on: June 25, 2022, 10:18:22 AM »
"Yes, I would call it something between unhelpful and politically tone deaf for him to say (write) that now, but political implications aren't his interest."

I understand
but (as of course you know)
the LEFT will now warp even the hint of this into a threat to  every identity political agenda  they can think of
to round up the get out the vote next election
anyone who states this will not have an effect in November is kidding themselves in MHO.


we may just have lost the likes of PA Senate race and more

 

ccp

  • Power User
  • ***
  • Posts: 18471
    • View Profile
Dershowitz and Morris on Newsmax's Rob Schmitt
« Reply #1706 on: June 25, 2022, 10:44:13 AM »
FAST FORWARD to Alan Dershowitz at the 13 minute mark
then to 43:10 mark:

https://www.newsmaxtv.com/Shows/Rob-Schmitt-Tonight/vid/1_9dtvou4j

I like this guy Rob Schmitt

DougMacG

  • Power User
  • ***
  • Posts: 18207
    • View Profile
Re: Issues in the American Creed (Constitutional Law and related matters)
« Reply #1707 on: June 25, 2022, 12:06:19 PM »
Funny how nobody reads the first fifty pages of Alito's brilliant opinion, all true, but everybody will know that Thomas wants to ban contraception, which isn't true.

Because of ignorance and intentional disinformation we get wrapped up in the outcomes of these cases, abortion or no abortion, gay marriage or no gay marriage, even though the real issue  before the Court often is who should decide these difficult matters.

Alito does quite an eloquent and thorough job of demonstrating how 'right to abortion' does not rise to what is meant by an unenumerated constitutional right.

I doubt gay marriage rises to that level either but you don't have the competing interest of arguably a life taken to make the importance or urgency of revisiting settled law.

When they overturned slavery and forced segregation and killing your unborn, there was a valid argument that someone was directly being harmed by a wrongly decided case.  That argument is not nearly as clear or persuasive in the case of gay marriage or contraception.

ccp

  • Power User
  • ***
  • Posts: 18471
    • View Profile
LEFT/MEDIA hit mob
« Reply #1708 on: June 26, 2022, 08:15:49 AM »
https://www.yahoo.com/news/supreme-court-justice-clarence-thomas-051733128.html

 :x

no mention that Ginsberg served till the minute she croaked in order to shove liberal ideology down our throats...........

Crafty_Dog

  • Administrator
  • Power User
  • *****
  • Posts: 69318
    • View Profile
WSJ on Thomas and Substantive Due Process
« Reply #1709 on: June 26, 2022, 04:29:44 PM »
I get Thomas's point about Substantive Due Process being conceptually unsound, but OTOH there is this:

Clarence Thomas’s Abortion Opinion Revisits Same-Sex Marriage, Contraception
Many conservatives say prospect of court taking another look at widely accepted decisions is remote, calling them more settled than Roe
WSJ
By Jan Wolfe
June 25, 2022 8:59 am ET

WASHINGTON—When the Supreme Court removed the constitutional right to an abortion, most of the justices in the majority focused on what they described as the “egregiously wrong” ruling that established that right in Roe v. Wade in 1973.

Justice Clarence Thomas took a broader view. In his opinion concurring with the majority, he wrote that if the legal underpinnings of Roe v. Wade were wrong, then so were the underpinnings of other rights not enumerated in the Constitution that the court recognized in recent decades. They include the right of married couples to use contraception, the right to same-sex romantic relationships and, in 2015, the right to same-sex marriage.

Justice Thomas’s stance raised the prospect that new challenges would soon be mounted against those rights, keying off the decision in the abortion case, Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization.

The possibility that Friday’s ruling will have much greater applicability is an argument central to the dissent by the three liberal-leaning justices. Justices Stephen Breyer, Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan wrote: “Today’s opinion will fuel the fight to get contraception, and any other issues with a moral dimension, out of the Fourteenth Amendment and into state legislatures.”

A number of conservative legal scholars argued, as Justice Samuel Alito did in his opinion, that Roe was a special case. “Nothing in this opinion should be understood to cast doubt on precedents that do not concern abortion,” the justice wrote.

Sarah Parshall Perry, a lawyer at the conservative Heritage Foundation who worked in the Trump administration, said she sees no appetite among the other conservatives on the bench for revisiting rights that have become more accepted and entrenched in American life than Roe ever was.

“I don’t think there are the votes for re-examination of those other precedents,” she said. “Abortion is inherently different…Roe has always stuck out as a particularly egregious decision.”

Ms. Perry said repealing Roe has always been a singular focus for conservatives because of how poorly reasoned they think the ruling was and because they see it as bearing on the right not only of a consenting individual, but also on the fetus’s right to a life.

Ms. Perry said she expects that the court will be petitioned to revisit the issues in cases mentioned by Justice Thomas but that the current composition of the court suggests those petitions will be quickly turned away. “I’m virtually certain we won’t see the court granting them,” Ms. Perry said.

Justice Clarence Thomas wrote that if the legal underpinnings of Roe v. Wade were wrong, then so were those of some other rights upheld in recent decades.

Justice Brett Kavanaugh wrote a concurring opinion that distanced him from Justice Thomas.

“I emphasize what the Court today states: Overruling Roe does not mean the overruling of those precedents, and does not threaten or cast doubt on those precedents,” Justice Kavanaugh wrote.

In his concurrence, Justice Thomas referred specifically to three cases that he considered to be on the same shaky constitutional footing as Roe: Griswold v. Connecticut (1965), which established the right of married couples to use contraception; Lawrence v. Texas (2003), which protects the right to same-sex romantic relationships; and Obergefell v. Hodges (2015), which establishes the right to same-sex marriage.

Justice Thomas said those cases—which some call “substantive due-process” cases—were wrongly decided because the court interpreted the 14th Amendment, adopted in 1868 to assure “due process of law” and “equal protection of the laws,” as establishing rights that the nation’s founders never intended.

The justices therefore have a duty, he wrote, to “correct the error” established in those precedents.

Justice Thomas’s views on those cases are no surprise to those familiar with his judicial thinking, said David Upham, a legal scholar at the University of Dallas who publicly disagreed with the 2015 decision that recognized same-sex marriage.

“He is saying things he has said in the past,” Mr. Upham said.

Mr. Upham said that, as social mores have shifted, the political will for revisiting Griswold has vanished.

“The contraceptive decisions are untouchable,” Mr. Upham said. “It’s not about constitutional law. It’s about the political reality that there aren’t a substantial number of people who would like to see that case revisited.”

Kris Ullman, president of the conservative Eagle Forum advocacy group, said: “There is a huge difference between abortion and contraception. This idea that all these other rights are in danger—that’s a scare tactic by the left.”

Some antiabortion groups, such as Students for Life of America, consider “Plan B” emergency contraceptives and intrauterine devices, or IUDs, to be abortifacients and have pushed to limit access to them. Where that line is drawn in jurisdictions across the country could give rise to legal battles, as could questions of which circumstances of a mother’s pregnancy qualify as exceptions to state abortion bans.

“I do think this opens up new battlegrounds for the court; it could be open season on what rights are protected by the Constitution,” said Joseph Thai, a University of Oklahoma law professor. Conservative views that once were confined to dissenting opinions, he added, “now can become majority opinions if you can count to five votes.”

“Today, Justice Thomas is an island unto himself,” said Jessica Levinson, a professor at Loyola Law School in Los Angeles. “While the majority goes to pains to say this is just about abortion and nothing else, the majority’s reasoning calls into question as to whether that is truly the case. Thomas could soon have visitors on his island.”

Mr. Upham dismissed that view, saying he sees no desire among lawmakers or the court’s conservative justices to push for overturning Obergefell, the same-sex marriage decision.

“I don’t think it’s likely, and I say this as someone who would like to see these precedents revisited,” Mr. Upham said.

At this point, he said, there is strong support for same-sex marriage among many Americans—and general acquiescence by people who once opposed it.

DougMacG

  • Power User
  • ***
  • Posts: 18207
    • View Profile
Re: WSJ on Thomas and Substantive Due Process
« Reply #1710 on: June 27, 2022, 07:48:11 AM »
My understanding is that the Supreme Court will not take up cases that have only one Justice voting to take it and if they did, the likely outcome would be 8-1 vote against overturning precedent.

That said, Thomas' point (imo) is about the role of these 9 people and the meaning of Article 3 and amendments and so on, not about what public policy should be on contentious issues.

That may give easy target to Leftist ads and talking points but sometimes should target them back, what is the role of the Court suppose to be?  Just validation of 'woke' governance without regard to constitutional limits on federal government powers?

With R's poised to (possibly) take back all branches in the next two years with already a perhaps 6-3 Court advantage, is that really what even the Left wants, a rubber stamp Court of public opinion?

ccp

  • Power User
  • ***
  • Posts: 18471
    • View Profile
SCOTUS 9 to 0 ; it is ok to run opiod pill mills
« Reply #1711 on: June 27, 2022, 10:23:41 AM »
https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-supreme-court-sides-doctors-145337654.html

as a doctor I am surprised by this
I think it pretty obvious when a "clinic" like this writes 300,000 prescriptions for opoids
and they are taking pharmaceutical kickbacks for writing fentanyl scripts
is obvious it is a cash for drugs business

these people belong in jail in MHO.

ccp

  • Power User
  • ***
  • Posts: 18471
    • View Profile
Thomas suggests revisit 1964 case
« Reply #1712 on: June 27, 2022, 03:28:18 PM »
New York Times v. Sullivan, the 1964

lawfare against lawfare

the DNC's

SPLC 

https://nypost.com/2022/06/27/clarence-thomas-wants-to-make-it-easier-to-sue-media-companies-for-libel/

 :wink:


ccp

  • Power User
  • ***
  • Posts: 18471
    • View Profile
Re: Issues in the American Creed (Constitutional Law and related matters)
« Reply #1713 on: June 27, 2022, 03:29:36 PM »
I say we topple  George Floyd statues
and replace with Clarence Thomas monuments

 :-D

Crafty_Dog

  • Administrator
  • Power User
  • *****
  • Posts: 69318
    • View Profile
ET: The EPA decision
« Reply #1714 on: July 01, 2022, 10:24:57 AM »
Supreme Court Narrows EPA’s Ability to Regulate Carbon Dioxide Emissions
By Matthew Vadum June 30, 2022 Updated: June 30, 2022biggersmaller Print

0:00
3:08



1

The Supreme Court ruled 6–3 on June 30 that the Clean Air Act doesn’t give the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) widespread power to regulate carbon dioxide emissions that a popular theory says contribute to global warming.

Chief Justice John Roberts wrote the court’s majority opinion (pdf) in West Virginia v. EPA, court file 20-1530. Roberts was joined by the court’s other five conservatives. The court’s three liberal justices dissented.

While “capping carbon dioxide emissions at a level that will force a nationwide transition away from the use of coal to generate electricity may be a sensible ‘solution to the crisis of the day,’” Roberts wrote, quoting a 1992 precedent, “it is not plausible that Congress gave EPA the authority to adopt on its own such a regulatory scheme in Section 111(d)” of the Clean Air Act.

“A decision of such magnitude and consequence rests with Congress itself, or an agency acting pursuant to a clear delegation from that representative body,” he wrote.

West Virginia and 18 other states challenged the authority the Clean Air Act provides the EPA.

In 2016, the Supreme Court overturned the Obama-era Clean Power Plan (CPP), which expanded controls over the industry. Next, the deregulation-minded Trump administration reversed course, easing control on the industry with its Affordable Clean Energy Rule (ACE Rule).

On Jan. 19, 2021, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit struck down the ACE Rule, restoring some of the EPA’s authority in American Lung Association v. EPA (pdf). The court held that the EPA, under Trump, had misconstrued section 7411(d) of the Clean Air Act.

In the new opinion, the Supreme Court reversed the D.C. Circuit decision and remanded the case “for further proceedings consistent with this opinion.”

In Justice Elena Kagan’s dissent, she criticized the court majority for a decision she said “strips” the EPA of the power Congress gave it to respond to “the most pressing environmental challenge of our time,” citing Massachusetts v. EPA (2007).

“Climate change’s causes and dangers are no longer subject to serious doubt. Modern science is ‘unequivocal that human influence’—in particular, the emission of greenhouse gases like carbon dioxide—’has warmed the atmosphere, ocean and land.'”

“Whatever else this Court may know about, it does not have a clue about how to address climate change. And let’s say the obvious: The stakes here are high. Yet the Court today prevents congressionally authorized agency action to curb power plants’ carbon dioxide emissions. The Court appoints itself—instead of Congress or the expert agency—the decision maker on climate policy. I cannot think of many things more frightening.”

West Virginia Attorney General Patrick Morrisey, who previously told The Epoch Times that the EPA is trying to transform itself from “an environmental regulator into a central energy planning authority,” praised the Supreme Court.

“For many years, we’ve argued that EPA only had a narrow bit of authority to regulate carbon emissions,” Morrisey, a Republican who brought the appeal, said at a press conference.

“I think that the court today amplified that point. And once again, they also made clear that when you have something this big, something with vast economic and political significance, then that represents an extraordinary question. And that means Congress needs to step in, as opposed to the unelected bureaucrats.

“We know that over the last year and a half, the Biden administration has tried to run roughshod over the American economy with respect to its energy agenda.

“We want to make sure that the Biden agenda is limited by basis of what Congress authorized these agencies [to do],” he said.


“Our founders envisioned” that “Congress and not the unelected bureaucrats” should make decisions “about the major issues of the day.”

“They didn’t want to just have these unelected bureaucrats reach out and try to seize power where it didn’t exist,” Morrisey said.

U.S. Sen. Bob Menendez (D-N.J.) criticized the ruling and the six conservative justices.

“As the devastating impacts of climate change are becoming ever-more present, it is mind boggling and deeply alarming that the Supreme Court today has decided to hamstring the EPA’s authority to regulate greenhouse gases. This ruling not only restricts the agency’s ability to limit air pollution from the second-largest source of emissions in America, it also undermines the landmark Clean Air Act that gave it such authority,” the senator said.

“Make no mistake, with this devastating ruling in West Virginia v. EPA, the conservative majority of the Court continues to take our country backward and more worrisome, it opens the door to far-reaching implications for how other federal agencies generally create regulations to implement existing legislation moving forward.”

DougMacG

  • Power User
  • ***
  • Posts: 18207
    • View Profile
Re: ET: The EPA decision
« Reply #1715 on: July 01, 2022, 11:19:16 AM »
This is a very important ruling IMHO.
« Last Edit: July 01, 2022, 01:20:14 PM by DougMacG »

Crafty_Dog

  • Administrator
  • Power User
  • *****
  • Posts: 69318
    • View Profile
Substantive Due Process
« Reply #1716 on: July 09, 2022, 07:11:49 PM »

Crafty_Dog

  • Administrator
  • Power User
  • *****
  • Posts: 69318
    • View Profile
Sen. Ted Cruz: Obergefell was clearly wrong
« Reply #1717 on: July 17, 2022, 11:48:48 AM »
Ted Cruz says Supreme Court legalizing gay marriage in 2015 was 'clearly wrong'
On his show, Verdict with Ted Cruz, the Texas senator discussed the 'vulnerability' of the Obergefell v Hodges decision
The ruling granted same-sex couples across the country the right to get married
Cruz, though, argued the decision should have been left to the states
His comments come just one month after the Supreme Court voted to overturn its landmark Roe v Wade decision guaranteeing the right to an abortion
By MELISSA KOENIG FOR DAILYMAIL.COM

PUBLISHED: 09:01 EDT, 17 July 2022 | UPDATED: 10:28 EDT, 17 July 2022

Texas Senator Ted Cruz has argued the Supreme Court should never have legalized gay marriage - branding the decision 'clearly wrong'.

The Texas senator discussed the 'vulnerability' of Obergefell v Hodges in 2015 and claimed it 'ignored two centuries of our nation's history'.

On his show, Verdict with Ted Cruz, he called for the rights to be handed back to states across the country.

His comments come after the Supreme Court's historic ruling to overturn the nationwide right to abortions under Roe v Wade.

At the time, Justice Clarence Thomas called for justices to 'reconsider' and potentially scrap other cases, which could include Obergefell v Hodges.

In Obergefell v Hodges, SCOTUS ruled the right to marry is guaranteed by the Due Process Clause and the Equal Process Clause of the 14th Amendment.

The move thereby guaranteed gay couples the right to get married across the United States.

He told conservative commentator Liz Wheeler that the decision should have been left up to the states

Cruz chatted on Saturday to conservative commentator Liz Wheeler, who asked him what the arguments would be to overturn Obergefell.

He told her: 'Obergefell, like Roe v Wade, ignored two centuries of our nation's history.

'Marriage was always an issue that was left to the states,' he continued. 'We saw states before Obergefell - some states were moving to allow gay marriage, other states were moving to allow civil partnerships.

'There were different standards the states were adopting.' He argued if the Supreme Court had not ruled the way it did 'the democratic process would have continued to operate'.

But, he said, in Obergefell, 'the Court said 'No we know better than you, and now every state must sanction and permit gay marriage.


"That decision was clearly wrong when it was decided,' Cruz said, adding that the court was 'overreaching.'

This is not the first time Cruz has spoken out against the Obergefell decision.

After the decision was first handed down in June 2015, he told NPR in an interview that states that were not involved in the lawsuit should disregard the decision.

'Those who are not parties to the suit are not bound by it,' he said at the time.

Cruz also said he would have made opposition to gay marriage a central part of his 2016 presidential primary campaign - which he ultimately lost to future Trump.

Still, he noted on Saturday, the Supreme Court's decision overturning the landmark Roe v Wade case suggested that Obergefell would be treated differently.

'In Dobbs, what the Supreme Court said is 'Roe is different because it's the only one of the cases that involves the taking of a human life, and it's qualitatively different,'' he said. 'I agree with that proposition.'

In Obergefell v Hodges, the Supreme Court ruled in 2015 that the right to marry is guaranteed by the Constitution. People are seen celebrating outside the Supreme Court following the decision
+16
View gallery
In Obergefell v Hodges, the Supreme Court ruled in 2015 that the right to marry is guaranteed by the Constitution. People are seen celebrating outside the Supreme Court following the decision

Cruz's remarks come just one month after the Supreme Court struck down its landmark decision guaranteeing women the right to an abortion.

The Supreme Court ruled that Roe v Wade was wrongly decided last month, effectively leaving it up to each individual state to determine whether to legalize abortions, with at least 18 states now banning it.

The ruling stated: 'Like the infamous decision in Plessy v. Ferguson, Roe was also egregiously wrong and on a collision course with the Constitution from the day it was decided.

'Those on the losing side - those who sought to advance the State's interest in fetal life - could no longer seek to persuade their elected representatives to adopt policies consistent with their views.'

Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas called for his fellow justices to 'reconsider' and potentially overturn other cases decided on the legal authority of 'substantive due process in the aftermath of the court's decision to overturn Roe v Wade
+16
View gallery
Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas called for his fellow justices to 'reconsider' and potentially overturn other cases decided on the legal authority of 'substantive due process in the aftermath of the court's decision to overturn Roe v Wade

'The Court short-circuited the democratic process by closing it to the large number of Americans who disagreed with Roe,' the ruling added.

In his majority decision, though, Justice Samuel Alito wrote that 'nothing in this opinion should be understood to cast doubt on precedents that do not concern abortion.'

But his colleague, Justice Clarence Thomas called for his fellow justices to 'reconsider' and potentially overturn other cases decided on the legal authority of 'substantive due process.'

Substantive due process refers to the idea that people have fundamental rights that are not specifically laid out in the Constitution - and was the basis for a number of landmark cases including Obergefell.

'In future cases, we should reconsider all of this Court's substantive due process precedents, including Griswold, Lawrence and Obergefell,' Thomas wrote.

'Because any substantive due process decision is demonstrably erroneous, we have a duty to 'correct the error' established in these precedents,' he continued.

Thomas was specifically referring to the 1965 Griswold v Connecticut decision, which allows married couples to access birth control; and the 2003 Lawrence v Texas decision, which forbids states from outlawing consensual gay sex.

That decision ultimately led up to the 2015 Obergefell v Hodges decision that established a Constitutional right to gay marriage.

G M

  • Power User
  • ***
  • Posts: 26643
    • View Profile
Re: Sen. Ted Cruz: Obergefell was clearly wrong
« Reply #1718 on: July 17, 2022, 09:30:35 PM »
"Gay marriage" is a sick, perverted joke.

Anyone think the founding fathers had sodomites in mind when they were writing the constitution?


Ted Cruz says Supreme Court legalizing gay marriage in 2015 was 'clearly wrong'
On his show, Verdict with Ted Cruz, the Texas senator discussed the 'vulnerability' of the Obergefell v Hodges decision
The ruling granted same-sex couples across the country the right to get married
Cruz, though, argued the decision should have been left to the states
His comments come just one month after the Supreme Court voted to overturn its landmark Roe v Wade decision guaranteeing the right to an abortion
By MELISSA KOENIG FOR DAILYMAIL.COM

PUBLISHED: 09:01 EDT, 17 July 2022 | UPDATED: 10:28 EDT, 17 July 2022

Texas Senator Ted Cruz has argued the Supreme Court should never have legalized gay marriage - branding the decision 'clearly wrong'.

The Texas senator discussed the 'vulnerability' of Obergefell v Hodges in 2015 and claimed it 'ignored two centuries of our nation's history'.

On his show, Verdict with Ted Cruz, he called for the rights to be handed back to states across the country.

His comments come after the Supreme Court's historic ruling to overturn the nationwide right to abortions under Roe v Wade.

At the time, Justice Clarence Thomas called for justices to 'reconsider' and potentially scrap other cases, which could include Obergefell v Hodges.

In Obergefell v Hodges, SCOTUS ruled the right to marry is guaranteed by the Due Process Clause and the Equal Process Clause of the 14th Amendment.

The move thereby guaranteed gay couples the right to get married across the United States.

He told conservative commentator Liz Wheeler that the decision should have been left up to the states

Cruz chatted on Saturday to conservative commentator Liz Wheeler, who asked him what the arguments would be to overturn Obergefell.

He told her: 'Obergefell, like Roe v Wade, ignored two centuries of our nation's history.

'Marriage was always an issue that was left to the states,' he continued. 'We saw states before Obergefell - some states were moving to allow gay marriage, other states were moving to allow civil partnerships.

'There were different standards the states were adopting.' He argued if the Supreme Court had not ruled the way it did 'the democratic process would have continued to operate'.

But, he said, in Obergefell, 'the Court said 'No we know better than you, and now every state must sanction and permit gay marriage.


"That decision was clearly wrong when it was decided,' Cruz said, adding that the court was 'overreaching.'

This is not the first time Cruz has spoken out against the Obergefell decision.

After the decision was first handed down in June 2015, he told NPR in an interview that states that were not involved in the lawsuit should disregard the decision.

'Those who are not parties to the suit are not bound by it,' he said at the time.

Cruz also said he would have made opposition to gay marriage a central part of his 2016 presidential primary campaign - which he ultimately lost to future Trump.

Still, he noted on Saturday, the Supreme Court's decision overturning the landmark Roe v Wade case suggested that Obergefell would be treated differently.

'In Dobbs, what the Supreme Court said is 'Roe is different because it's the only one of the cases that involves the taking of a human life, and it's qualitatively different,'' he said. 'I agree with that proposition.'

In Obergefell v Hodges, the Supreme Court ruled in 2015 that the right to marry is guaranteed by the Constitution. People are seen celebrating outside the Supreme Court following the decision
+16
View gallery
In Obergefell v Hodges, the Supreme Court ruled in 2015 that the right to marry is guaranteed by the Constitution. People are seen celebrating outside the Supreme Court following the decision

Cruz's remarks come just one month after the Supreme Court struck down its landmark decision guaranteeing women the right to an abortion.

The Supreme Court ruled that Roe v Wade was wrongly decided last month, effectively leaving it up to each individual state to determine whether to legalize abortions, with at least 18 states now banning it.

The ruling stated: 'Like the infamous decision in Plessy v. Ferguson, Roe was also egregiously wrong and on a collision course with the Constitution from the day it was decided.

'Those on the losing side - those who sought to advance the State's interest in fetal life - could no longer seek to persuade their elected representatives to adopt policies consistent with their views.'

Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas called for his fellow justices to 'reconsider' and potentially overturn other cases decided on the legal authority of 'substantive due process in the aftermath of the court's decision to overturn Roe v Wade
+16
View gallery
Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas called for his fellow justices to 'reconsider' and potentially overturn other cases decided on the legal authority of 'substantive due process in the aftermath of the court's decision to overturn Roe v Wade

'The Court short-circuited the democratic process by closing it to the large number of Americans who disagreed with Roe,' the ruling added.

In his majority decision, though, Justice Samuel Alito wrote that 'nothing in this opinion should be understood to cast doubt on precedents that do not concern abortion.'

But his colleague, Justice Clarence Thomas called for his fellow justices to 'reconsider' and potentially overturn other cases decided on the legal authority of 'substantive due process.'

Substantive due process refers to the idea that people have fundamental rights that are not specifically laid out in the Constitution - and was the basis for a number of landmark cases including Obergefell.

'In future cases, we should reconsider all of this Court's substantive due process precedents, including Griswold, Lawrence and Obergefell,' Thomas wrote.

'Because any substantive due process decision is demonstrably erroneous, we have a duty to 'correct the error' established in these precedents,' he continued.

Thomas was specifically referring to the 1965 Griswold v Connecticut decision, which allows married couples to access birth control; and the 2003 Lawrence v Texas decision, which forbids states from outlawing consensual gay sex.

That decision ultimately led up to the 2015 Obergefell v Hodges decision that established a Constitutional right to gay marriage.

DougMacG

  • Power User
  • ***
  • Posts: 18207
    • View Profile
Re: Sen. Ted Cruz: Obergefell was clearly wrong
« Reply #1719 on: July 17, 2022, 10:07:24 PM »
Wrongly decided case and whether or not it is good public policy are different questions.

ccp

  • Power User
  • ***
  • Posts: 18471
    • View Profile
the biggest THREAT TO DEMOCRACY is
« Reply #1720 on: August 22, 2022, 06:40:24 AM »
the Constitution !!!

says two law professors

one from Yale and Harvard who together produce more SC/Federal  justices/judges  than all other law schools.
One an ex Jewish person who has since converted to the Democrat partisan religion orthodoxy.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/08/22/ivy-league-professors-reclaim-america-from-broken-constitution/




Crafty_Dog

  • Administrator
  • Power User
  • *****
  • Posts: 69318
    • View Profile
9th Amendment Parental rights violated
« Reply #1721 on: August 23, 2022, 12:25:29 PM »
Judge halts parental rights lawsuit against district

Says Gender Support Plan rules were designed to ‘apply flexibly’

BY SEAN SALAI THE WASHINGTON TIMES

A federal judge in Maryland has dismissed a lawsuit brought by three parents against Montgomery County Public Schools to stop a policy of hiding students’ gender transitions from “unsupportive” caregivers. U.S. District Judge Paul W. Grimm ruled late Thursday that the parents lack legal standing to proceed because the school district designed its Gender Support Plan guidelines to “apply flexibly.”

That means they exclude parents only at the request of transgender or gender nonconforming students who fear psychological or physical abuse — an area of “compelling interest” where Supreme Court precedent allows government intervention, the judge ruled.

“In sum, the Guidelines neither mandate nor encourage the exclusion or distrust of parents, but aim to include parents and other family in the support network they are intended to create,” Judge Grimm wrote in his opinion.

In a statement emailed to The Washington Times, the Montgomery County Board of Education welcomed the ruling.

“The Court rightly found that our Guidelines for Gender Identity actively encourage familial involvement in developing and implementing a transgender or gender nonconforming student’s ‘Gender Support Plan’ whenever possible,” the statement reads.

The board added that the ruling affirms the school district’s “strong commitment” to protecting student safety and privacy and preventing discrimination against gender-transitioning students.

Three unidentified parents filed the lawsuit in October 2020. It claims that the district violates their right under the 14th Amendment “to direct the care, custody, education, and control of their minor children” by questioning students’ gender identities in a confidential intake form.

Their attorney, Rick Claybrook, said they are considering an appeal.

According to district guidelines, teachers may hide how gender-transitioning students identify at school by reverting to “birth” names and pronouns with parents the children fear will not support them.

The guidelines state that “all students should feel comfortable expressing their gender identity,” Judge Grimm noted in his ruling.

Crafty_Dog

  • Administrator
  • Power User
  • *****
  • Posts: 69318
    • View Profile
Independent State Legislature Doctrine case
« Reply #1722 on: September 09, 2022, 07:40:18 AM »
Very opinionated, would love to hear the other side:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWGfEDqTquQ
« Last Edit: September 09, 2022, 07:42:50 AM by Crafty_Dog »

ccp

  • Power User
  • ***
  • Posts: 18471
    • View Profile


Crafty_Dog

  • Administrator
  • Power User
  • *****
  • Posts: 69318
    • View Profile
WSJ: Kagan's political SCOTUS
« Reply #1725 on: September 17, 2022, 01:31:59 PM »
Elena Kagan’s ‘Political’ Supreme Court
The Justice gives an assist to those attacking the Court’s legitimacy.
By The Editorial BoardFollow
Sept. 15, 2022 6:43 pm ET


Justice Elena Kagan is the leading liberal on the Supreme Court now that Justice Stephen Breyer has retired, and she no doubt thinks of herself as an institutionalist. So it’s a shame to see her lending an assist to the current political attack on the High Court’s legitimacy.

“When courts become extensions of the political process, when people see them as extensions of the political process, when people see them as trying just to impose personal preferences on a society irrespective of the law, that’s when there’s a problem—and that’s when there ought to be a problem,” the Justice said Wednesday at Northwestern University School of Law.

***
Political? Hmmm. Whom do you think she has in mind? Justice Kagan didn’t mention Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization, the case in which a majority overturned Roe v. Wade. But you don’t have to be Oliver Wendell Holmes to know that was the context, and her remarks feed the Democratic and media project to tarnish the current Court.

But let’s examine that “political” charge. If the majority was being political in Dobbs, it failed in spectacular fashion. By returning abortion to the realm of politics, rather than judicial ukases, the Court has galvanized Democratic voters. Republicans who supported the end of Roe are on the backfoot politically, and it could cost them control of Congress.

As for abortion and judging, note that Justice Kagan doesn’t defend Roe on the merits. Neither does any honest judge or legal academic on the political left. That’s because Roe’s logic was entirely political, an invention of Justice Harry Blackmun, a Republican appointee. The lead dissenter was Byron White, a Democratic appointee. In agreeing with Justice White’s critique of Roe, was Justice Samuel Alito being political—or correcting the historic mistake that Justice White called out at the time?

Justice Kagan would no doubt say, as the three dissenters did in Dobbs, that Roe had become a durable precedent. But when are judges justified in overruling an old precedent?

According to Justice Kagan at Northwestern, one such situation would be “when you’ve discovered that the doctrine that the Court has created is entirely unworkable, is usually the expression,” meaning that “a complete mess has been created.”


Please see page 56 of Dobbs to find Justice Alito’s analysis of the practical difficulties of asking judges to figure out what constitutes an “undue burden” on abortion rights. States kept challenging that standard because the Court itself was never clear about the undue burden test after three Justices concocted it in Planned Parenthood v. Casey in 1992.

“What makes a court legitimate,” Justice Kagan also said, “is that the court is acting like a court. It’s doing something that’s recognizably law-like.” Justice Kagan doesn’t have to agree with the majority opinion in Dobbs, but it’s wild to watch her talk as if it doesn’t exist. Spend an hour or so digesting Justice Alito’s 87-page opinion, and our guess is you’ll find that it’s plenty “law-like.”

Crazy idea, but maybe what’s really hurting the Supreme Court’s perceived legitimacy is that the Democratic Party, led by President Biden, is running a political campaign against it. Consider Gallup’s poll taken in July, after Dobbs, which shows approval of the Court at 43%, “statistically unchanged” from last year’s record low of 40%. That headline figure “masks big swings among partisans,” Gallup says. Republican approval is up 29 points to 72%. Democratic approval is down 23 points to 13%.

***
Justice Kagan is no political naif, and it’s too bad she’s feeding this narrative about the Court by suggesting her conservative colleagues do something other than follow the law as they see it. To return Justice Kagan’s disfavor to her colleagues, our guess is that she was playing some politics herself at Northwestern.

She’s warning the Justices that the “legitimacy” attacks will continue if they dare to rule in ways that progressives don’t like. She’s probably thinking in particular about the looming case on racial preferences at Harvard and the University of North Carolina.

Justice Kagan is no doubt frustrated that she isn’t in the majority in many of the most significant cases, but now she knows how Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas felt for decades. They never attacked the legitimacy of the Court. Justice Kagan would be wise to follow their example if she wants the public to respect the Court when her turn in the majority comes again

Crafty_Dog

  • Administrator
  • Power User
  • *****
  • Posts: 69318
    • View Profile
ET: Justice Thomas
« Reply #1726 on: October 03, 2022, 04:04:46 AM »
Thomas’ philosophy of originalism will help guide justices in new term

BY STEPHEN DINAN AND ALEX SWOYER THE WASHINGTON TIMES

Justice Clarence Thomas has been on the Supreme Court for more than three decades, and his judicial philosophy rooted in the original meaning of the Constitution is finally controlling big rulings.

Yet he is cranking out opinions just like he did while in the legal desert of the liberal “living Constitution” era.

“He’s always been one to kind of identify problems that maybe the court hasn’t grappled with or issues that need to be brought up,” said Carrie Severino, who clerked for the justice 15 years ago. “It’s taken decades. He’s been on the court over 30 years now, but the court has ultimately been like, ‘Oh, yeah, that is an issue we need to look at.’” The difference between then and now, she said, is “you now see a majority of justices joining him.”

Justice Thomas will take the bench Monday for the start of the 2022-2023 term after his most influential year yet. He led colleagues in forcefully asserting Second Amendment gun rights and First Amendment religious free exercise rights and, of course, defenestrating Roe v. Wade.

That 1973 decision was the guiding star of liberal legal scholarship for decades but succumbed last year to Justice Thomas’ brand of originalism.

Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr. wrote the chief opinion, saying it was time to reverse years of wrong legal reasoning that had led to and flowed from Roe. Justice Thomas joined the ruling but wrote a concurring opinion to advise his colleagues that their job was not finished.

He said the same “substantive due process” right that Roe applied to establish a national right to abortion was the basis for other decisions, such as federal constitutional guarantees of access to contraception and same-sex marriage.

Ms. Severino said that’s typical of Justice Thomas. She said he likens the court’s use of precedent to engineers adding cars to a train.

“He’s like, ‘Look, you want me to add another car to this long train. I don’t even know where this train is going, who’s driving this train. So what we need to do is trace it back, go forward one car at a time, until we get to the very beginning, we find out what is going on,’” she said. “Sometimes, he says, you’ll find there’s a chimpanzee driving it. We should not be adding more cases to this line of reasoning.”

That’s one reason Justice Thomas is still writing prolifically while his philosophy controls more of the court’s opinions.

Adam Feldman, who runs Empirical SCOTUS, said Justice Thomas writes a separate opinion for every five cases on which he votes. That’s a full opinion ahead of the runner-up, Justice Sonia Sotomayor, the closest justice the liberal wing has to Justice Thomas.

Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. writes a separate opinion once every 14.5 cases in which he prevails, Mr. Feldman’s data shows.

“Even when [Justice Thomas] agrees with the outcome, he will go further in asserting his own points of view,” Mr. Feldman said. That’s particularly true when it comes to the use of stare decisis.

In the hands of many justices, fealty to justice can be a shield to defend a position or a weapon to attack a colleague’s position. For Justice Thomas, it’s usually just an academic question to be surmounted.

“Thomas will go out and say, ‘I don’t think it’s just overturning the law in this case; I don’t think there’s a distinct place for stare decisis in our jurisprudence that requires our respect. If I don’t agree with it, I’m going to overturn it,’” Mr. Feldman said. “He takes it a step further.”

During the past term, Justice Thomas wrote eight opinions in which he concurred with the outcome but wanted to make particular points, including in the abortion ruling. He had the highest concurrence rate on the court.

Court watchers figure Justice Thomas will play a significant role in the upcoming term in cases involving voting rights, election procedures, affirmative action in college admissions and First Amendment challenges to laws that require service for same-sex marriages when it conflicts with a business owner’s religious dictates.

“I could see him having, just because where he sits on these issues of religious liberty and the right to exclude based on a religious perspective, I could see him having some further-reaching opinion than the court’s willing to go,” Mr. Feldman said.

That the 6-3 conservative court has tilted toward Justice Thomas is mostly a matter of math. Justice Anthony M. Kennedy’s retirement and Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s death opened slots that were filled by more conservativeleaning members, tilting a court from moderately originalist to aggressively originalist.

Justice Thomas has found a new voice in oral arguments during the pandemic.

He was famously reticent to take part in the back-and-forth during oral arguments and once went a decade without asking a question. The New York Times sniffed that he had given various explanations for his silence but seemed to settle on one that it was rude to the litigants to interrupt and preen and prod, as has been the practice for oral argument in recent years.

When the pandemic struck, the court went to virtual hearings and Chief Justice Roberts carved out specific time for each justice to ask questions. On a remote call, talking over one another would be a disaster. Justice Thomas, as the senior member of the court, got the first crack and began to engage again.

The court has gone back to in-person argument, but Chief Justice Roberts has maintained the structured format for each member to have a dedicated chance for questions, and Justice Thomas remains engaged.

“I think his colleagues recognized the value that added,” Ms. Severino said.

Justice Thomas’ success on the bench led to a rocky summer.

George Washington University’s law school, where he co-taught a constitutional law seminar for years, faced a rebellion of sorts from students who demanded that he be fired. The school rejected those calls. Although the justice’s views didn’t represent the school’s beliefs, GWU said, an open debate was part of education. Still, Justice Thomas withdrew from teaching the class.

An online petition circulating over the summer demanded the impeachment of the justice and garnered more than 1 million signatures. Democrats on Capitol Hill dismissed the idea as a non-starter.

Justice Thomas’ wife, Virginia “Ginni” Thomas, has been under scrutiny for communications surrounding the 2020 presidential election and her attendance at the pro-Trump rally on Jan. 6, 2021. She testified Thursday to the House committee investigating the mob attack on the U.S. Capitol later that day and reportedly told lawmakers that she believed the election was stolen.

She also said Justice Thomas doesn’t discuss his court work with her.

Detractors wonder whether the 74-year-old jurist will quit soon.

Ms. Severino doubts it. “No way,” she said. “On the Supreme Court, the mid-70s is like the new 40s.

Crafty_Dog

  • Administrator
  • Power User
  • *****
  • Posts: 69318
    • View Profile
Napolitano on Natural Law
« Reply #1727 on: October 06, 2022, 07:16:56 AM »


Taking rights seriously

To the government, rights are privileges

By Andrew P. Napolitano

‘If all mankind minus one were of one opinion, Mankind would be no more justified in silencing that one person, than he, if he had the power, would be justified in silencing mankind.”

— John Stuart Mill (1806-1873) The world is filled with self-evident truths — truisms — that philosophers, lawyers and judges know need not be proved. The sun rises in the east and sets in the west. Two plus two equals four. A cup of hot coffee sitting on a table in a room, the temperature of which is 70 degrees Fahrenheit, will eventually cool down.

These examples, of which there are many, are not true because we believe they are true. They are true essentially and substantially. They are true whether we accept their truthfulness or not. Of course, recognizing a universal truth acknowledges the existence of an order of things higher than human reason, certainly higher than government.

The generation of Americans that fought the war of secession against England — according to Professor Murray Rothbard, the last moral war Americans waged. Rothbard understood the existence of truisms and recognized their origin in nature.

The most famous of these recognitions was Thomas Jefferson’s iconic line in the Declaration of Independence that self-evident truths come not from human beings but from “the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God.” Thus, “All Men are created equal and are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness” is a truism.

Mr. Jefferson’s neighbor and colleague James Madison understood this as well when he wrote the Bill of Rights so as to reflect that human rights do not come from the government. They come from our individual humanity.

Thus, your right to be alive, to think as you wish, to say what you think, to publish what you say, to worship or not, to associate or not, to shake your fist in the tyrant’s face by petitioning the government, your right to defend yourself and repel tyrants using and carrying the same weapons as the government does, your right to be left alone, to own property, to travel or to stay put — these natural aspects of human existence are natural rights that come from our humanity and for the exercise of which all rational humans yearn.

This is the natural rights understanding of Jefferson’s Declaration and Madison’s Bill of Rights, to the latter of which all in government have sworn allegiance and deference.

A right is not a privilege. A right is an indefeasible personal claim against the whole world. It does not require a government permission slip. It does not require preconditions except the ability to reason. It does not require the approval of family or neighbors.

A privilege is something the government doles out to suit itself or calm the masses. The government gives those who meet its qualifications the privilege to vote so it can claim a form of Jeffersonian legitimacy. Jefferson argued in the Declaration that no government is morally licit without the consent of the governed.

No one alive today has consented to the government, but most accept it. Is acceptance consent? Of course not — no more than walking on a government sidewalk is consent to the government’s lies, theft and killing. Surely the Germans who voted against the Nazis and could not escape their grasp hardly consented to that awful form of government.

We need to distinguish between privileges that the government doles out and rights that we have by virtue of our humanity, rights so human and natural that they exist in all people even in the absence of government.

Are our rights equal to each other? Some are equal to each other, but one is greater than all, as none of the rights cataloged briefly above can be exercised without it. That is, of course, the right to live. This is the right most challenging to governments that have enslaved masses and gloried in fighting morally illicit wars that kill and thus destroy the right to live.

But if a right is a claim against the whole world, how can a government — whether popular or totalitarian or both — extinguish it by death or slavery? The short answer is no governments, notwithstanding the public oaths their offi cers take upon assuming office, accept the natural origins of rights. To the government, rights are privileges.

Stated differently, governments do not take rights seriously.

Governments hate and fear the exercise of natural rights. Ludwig von Mises properly called government “the negation of liberty.” Freedom is the default position. We are literally born free, naturally free.

Government is an artificial creation based on a monopoly of force in a geographical area that could not exist if it did not negate our freedoms. Government denies our rights by punishing the exercise of them and by stealing property from us.

Rights are not just claims against the government. They are claims against the whole world. This was best encapsulated by Rothbard’s non-aggression principle, which teaches that initiating all real and threatened aggression — whether by violence, coercion or deception — is morally illicit. That applies to your neighbors as well as to the police.

Of course, in Rothbard’s world, there would be no government police unless all people consented; and he wouldn’t have. A private police entity — paid to protect life, liberty and property — would be far more efficient and faithful to its job — which it would lose if it failed — than the government’s police, which thrives on assaulting life, liberty and property and keeping their jobs.

The exercise of rights requires abandonment of fear, acceptance of truth, and rejection of compromise with the government. As Ayn Rand famously observed, any compromise between good and evil, natural rights and slavery, food and poison, results in death — death of the body, death of liberty, death of both.

Andrew P. Napolitano is a former professor of law and judge of the Superior Court of New Jersey who has published nine books on the U.S. Constitution

Crafty_Dog

  • Administrator
  • Power User
  • *****
  • Posts: 69318
    • View Profile
The
« Reply #1728 on: October 14, 2022, 04:46:33 PM »
The Progressive Flight from Law and the Constitution

Outside the U.S. Supreme Court on the first day of the court's new term in Washington, D.C., October 3, 2022. (Jonathan Ernst/Reuters)
Share
71 Comments
Listen to article
By BRAD LINGO
&
JOHN ASHCROFT
October 13, 2022 6:30 AM
What’s happening at Yale is only one example of a broader trend.
The legal academy is abuzz over U.S. Circuit Judge James Ho’s decision to boycott clerks from Yale Law School. Judge Ho’s decision came in response to what he saw as a troubling pattern at Yale of disrespecting and disrupting speakers arguing from conservative viewpoints.

Whatever one thinks of the position taken by Judge Ho, something feels different as a new school year and new Supreme Court term get underway. And it’s troubling.

How did we get here? Not long ago, progressives and conservatives disagreed about case outcomes, but both sides still embraced constitutional values. Over time, however, progressives distanced themselves from certain parts of the Constitution. Then, they began questioning the legitimacy of the Supreme Court. Now, some call for us to scrap the Constitution altogether.

Several weeks ago, Harvard Law professor Ryan Doerfler and Yale Law professor Samuel Moyn argued in the New York Times that progressives should “reclaim America from constitutionalism” by “radically alter[ing] the basic rules of the game.” They envision an America where progressive majorities bestow and retract rights democratically “without having to bother with the Constitution.”

This progressive reaction is telling. Not long ago, conservatives felt forsaken by the Court. Their response? Embrace the Constitution. Today, progressives foresee a challenging season. Their response? Discard the Constitution, dismantle the Court, and disrespect those who disagree. (Thankfully, not all on the left take this approach, but it’s becoming distressingly common in the legal academy.)

We should pause to consider whether what is being taught in law schools has contributed to the dysfunction. A law professor arguing that it would be better to make law “without having to bother with the Constitution” is like a banker lamenting it would be easier to store valuables without bothering with the vault.

TOP STORIES
Climate Activists Vandalize $84.2 Million Van Gogh Painting
Fifteen-Year-Old Boy Identified as Suspect in North Carolina Shooting Spree
Virginia Democrat to Introduce Bill to Prosecute Parents Who Refuse to Treat Child as Opposite Sex
Where Tulsi Gabbard Belongs
Inside the Shameful Cancellation of Jihad Rehab
The Endless Search for Hi-Fi
Professors who make such arguments overlook something fundamental. The government does not grant rights. Government guarantees rights — rights that are unalienable and come from the very nature of what it means to be human.

Despite the doubts of progressive academics who think they know better, human nature is stubbornly unchanging. Humans are flawed, self-interested, and power-seeking. So too, are their governments. John Adams observed, “It is in vain to say that democracy is less vain, less proud, less selfish, less ambitious, or less avaricious than aristocracy or monarchy.” Or, as Tocqueville asked, “Have men, by gathering together, changed character? . . . As for me, I cannot believe it; and the power to do everything that I refuse to any one of my fellows, I will never grant to several.” Oppression can emerge from any form of government — democracy included.

That’s why the Constitution hardwires liberty-preserving features into the structure of the American government. It divides power within and among the three branches of the federal government and then again between federal and state governments. It “imposes” institutions like the Senate and Electoral College on our national government. In so doing, it restrains the pace of government and bogs things down. It sometimes frustrates majority rule — even things that professors in their ivory towers tell us are good ideas. That’s the point.

More on
CONSTITUTION
 
Federal Judge to Decide if U.S. Still Has Constitution
The Miracle at Philadelphia
This Day in Liberal Judicial Activism—October 12
Progressive academics love to criticize the Court’s reliance on history and tradition. “Trust us,” they tell their students, “we know better than the wisdom of the ages.” For example, professors Doerfler and Moyn accuse the Constitution of distracting us from “what the present and future demand for and from those who live now.”

But history counsels caution when democratic majorities are asserted as a basis for power. Some of us can still remember the election of Haitian president François Duvalier in the 1960s. While his term was to expire and the Haitian constitution prohibited reelection, Duvalier announced a presidential referendum in which he was the only candidate and received over a million votes supporting him. There were zero votes in opposition. Duvalier is said to have asserted, “I accept the people’s will. As a revolutionary, I have no right to disregard the will of the people.”

Our Constitution safeguards liberty and ensures we are ruled by laws, not men. Indeed, generations of progressives and conservatives in the federal government have long shared a commitment that transcended both time and politics.  Their oaths bound them to preserve, protect, and defend our Constitution.

But now, that might all be changing. If Abraham Lincoln was right in his warning that “the philosophy of the schoolroom in one generation is the philosophy of the government in the next,” then we should be worried. Today’s students might well not be willing to take the same oath when it is their turn to govern.

Brad Lingo is the dean of the Regent University School of Law. John Ashcroft served as the 79th U.S. attorney general and is a distinguished professor at Regent University School of Law.

Crafty_Dog

  • Administrator
  • Power User
  • *****
  • Posts: 69318
    • View Profile
NRO: The Prog Flight from the Constitution
« Reply #1729 on: October 14, 2022, 04:47:57 PM »
The Progressive Flight from Law and the Constitution
By BRAD LINGO & JOHN ASHCROFT
October 13, 2022 6:30 AM

What’s happening at Yale is only one example of a broader trend.

The legal academy is abuzz over U.S. Circuit Judge James Ho’s decision to boycott clerks from Yale Law School. Judge Ho’s decision came in response to what he saw as a troubling pattern at Yale of disrespecting and disrupting speakers arguing from conservative viewpoints.

Whatever one thinks of the position taken by Judge Ho, something feels different as a new school year and new Supreme Court term get underway. And it’s troubling.

How did we get here? Not long ago, progressives and conservatives disagreed about case outcomes, but both sides still embraced constitutional values. Over time, however, progressives distanced themselves from certain parts of the Constitution. Then, they began questioning the legitimacy of the Supreme Court. Now, some call for us to scrap the Constitution altogether.

Several weeks ago, Harvard Law professor Ryan Doerfler and Yale Law professor Samuel Moyn argued in the New York Times that progressives should “reclaim America from constitutionalism” by “radically alter[ing] the basic rules of the game.” They envision an America where progressive majorities bestow and retract rights democratically “without having to bother with the Constitution.”

This progressive reaction is telling. Not long ago, conservatives felt forsaken by the Court. Their response? Embrace the Constitution. Today, progressives foresee a challenging season. Their response? Discard the Constitution, dismantle the Court, and disrespect those who disagree. (Thankfully, not all on the left take this approach, but it’s becoming distressingly common in the legal academy.)

We should pause to consider whether what is being taught in law schools has contributed to the dysfunction. A law professor arguing that it would be better to make law “without having to bother with the Constitution” is like a banker lamenting it would be easier to store valuables without bothering with the vault.

Professors who make such arguments overlook something fundamental. The government does not grant rights. Government guarantees rights — rights that are unalienable and come from the very nature of what it means to be human.

Despite the doubts of progressive academics who think they know better, human nature is stubbornly unchanging. Humans are flawed, self-interested, and power-seeking. So too, are their governments. John Adams observed, “It is in vain to say that democracy is less vain, less proud, less selfish, less ambitious, or less avaricious than aristocracy or monarchy.” Or, as Tocqueville asked, “Have men, by gathering together, changed character? . . . As for me, I cannot believe it; and the power to do everything that I refuse to any one of my fellows, I will never grant to several.” Oppression can emerge from any form of government — democracy included.

That’s why the Constitution hardwires liberty-preserving features into the structure of the American government. It divides power within and among the three branches of the federal government and then again between federal and state governments. It “imposes” institutions like the Senate and Electoral College on our national government. In so doing, it restrains the pace of government and bogs things down. It sometimes frustrates majority rule — even things that professors in their ivory towers tell us are good ideas. That’s the point.


Progressive academics love to criticize the Court’s reliance on history and tradition. “Trust us,” they tell their students, “we know better than the wisdom of the ages.” For example, professors Doerfler and Moyn accuse the Constitution of distracting us from “what the present and future demand for and from those who live now.”

But history counsels caution when democratic majorities are asserted as a basis for power. Some of us can still remember the election of Haitian president François Duvalier in the 1960s. While his term was to expire and the Haitian constitution prohibited reelection, Duvalier announced a presidential referendum in which he was the only candidate and received over a million votes supporting him. There were zero votes in opposition. Duvalier is said to have asserted, “I accept the people’s will. As a revolutionary, I have no right to disregard the will of the people.”

Our Constitution safeguards liberty and ensures we are ruled by laws, not men. Indeed, generations of progressives and conservatives in the federal government have long shared a commitment that transcended both time and politics.  Their oaths bound them to preserve, protect, and defend our Constitution.

But now, that might all be changing. If Abraham Lincoln was right in his warning that “the philosophy of the schoolroom in one generation is the philosophy of the government in the next,” then we should be worried. Today’s students might well not be willing to take the same oath when it is their turn to govern.

Brad Lingo is the dean of the Regent University School of Law. John Ashcroft served as the 79th U.S. attorney general and is a distinguished professor at Regent University School of Law.

ccp

  • Power User
  • ***
  • Posts: 18471
    • View Profile
Dershowitz on "bid tech power" on newsax
« Reply #1730 on: October 16, 2022, 02:04:08 PM »
the great issue of the 21st century :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5A95rwWmBV0

Contrast this to Democrat partisan/operative/promoter  Larry the Lib:

watch first 19:35 minutes on JBS:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFkR9Mt0LjY

Crafty_Dog

  • Administrator
  • Power User
  • *****
  • Posts: 69318
    • View Profile
Re: Issues in the American Creed (Constitutional Law and related matters) SCOTUS
« Reply #1731 on: October 16, 2022, 10:52:46 PM »
I'm not seeing Dershowitz in euther of those clips.

ccp

  • Power User
  • ***
  • Posts: 18471
    • View Profile
leftist the HILL sounding alarm to libs
« Reply #1732 on: October 21, 2022, 04:28:37 PM »
https://thehill.com/policy/technology/3697807-how-billionaires-are-building-a-right-wing-online-ecosystem/

I can only think of Larry the Lib working hard to figure out how to shyster this in the DNC's favor

Objective Constitutional lawyer my ass.

Crafty_Dog

  • Administrator
  • Power User
  • *****
  • Posts: 69318
    • View Profile

ccp

  • Power User
  • ***
  • Posts: 18471
    • View Profile
Re: Issues in the American Creed (Constitutional Law and related matters) SCOTUS
« Reply #1734 on: October 22, 2022, 11:04:42 AM »
" I'm not seeing Dershowitz in euther of those clips"

this is similar

Best part of Alan's interview for me is his comment that Larry Tribe also supported Michael Avenati for President - that is all you need to know about Tribe  :-D

https://rumble.com/embed/vh21gv/

Crafty_Dog

  • Administrator
  • Power User
  • *****
  • Posts: 69318
    • View Profile
Interstate Commerce Clause case- CA Pork law
« Reply #1735 on: October 25, 2022, 09:08:59 AM »
Proposition 12, the Constitution, and Good Government
Gary M. GallesGary M. Galles
– October 25, 2022Reading Time: 3 minutes
AIER >> Daily Economy >> Regulation >> Government >> Free Markets
Print Friendly, PDF & EmailPrintFacebookTwitterLinkedInPinterestRedditFlipboardEmailShare

Four years ago, California voters approved Proposition 12, in which a “yes” vote was promoted to “establish minimum space requirements based on square feet for calves raised for veal, breeding pigs, and egg-laying hens and to ban the sale of (a) veal from calves, (b) pork from breeding pigs, and (c) eggs from hens when the animals are confined to areas below minimum square-feet requirements.”

That proposition has been challenged, however, as unconstitutional on the basis of something missing from that proposition, namely, where it would apply. A California state law would have to apply to those industries nationwide, for producers who wish to sell anything to California consumers. And the Supreme Court has agreed to hear that challenge, based on what is called the “Dormant Commerce Clause” (because it gives exclusive jurisdiction over interstate commerce to the federal government, which excludes state interference with such commerce, even if no federal law has been passed on a topic). Oral arguments in National Pork Producers Council v Karen Ross will take place October 11.

It is important to note that there would be no federal constitutional violation if the proposition applied solely to producers of those products located in California, as one might well have expected was the case, given the lack of attention to that detail in the “yes” campaign. But California does not have the right to legislate for producers located in other states, which almost all of them are.

While the state comprises a substantial proportion of the U.S. market for pork, California imports 99.87 percent of its pork. That would mean Proposition 12 would have virtually no effect on the California producers they have legitimate jurisdiction over, and a massive effect on producers nationwide, over whom it has no legitimate jurisdiction. Very few of those producers meet the standards promulgated, which have cost those producers around $300 million. Because pork production and distribution is highly integrated, and California is a major market, the effects would extend to virtually every pork product sold everywhere in the country. The state would even send California Department of Food and Agriculture agents throughout the country to enforce those regulations. Further, 15 other states opposed Proposition 12 as a violation of their sovereignty.

It is hard to think of a more blatant violation of the Constitution’s Commerce Clause’s denial of state power over interstate commerce. That is why Elizabeth B. Prologar, the Solicitor General of the United States, “has come down on the side of the Interstate Commerce Clause and the pork producers.” That clause arose from many state regulations that had burdened interstate commerce under the Articles of Confederation, abuses which led to a call to the Constitutional Convention. Further, overturning state restrictions on interstate commerce (following the traditional meaning of regulate as “to make regular” or “to remove impediments”) were the sole applications of the Commerce Clause for America’s first century. And given the very tenuous bases under which the Supreme Court has invoked the Commerce Clause as a source of federal supremacy in the past, such as in Wickard v. Filburn, any sort of judicial consistency would put Proposition 12 well outside constitutional limits.

The Federalist Papers also support this interpretation. Federalist 11 describes the proposed federal power as a “prohibitory regulation, extending… throughout the states.” Federalist 42 describes its purpose as “the relief of the States…from the improper contributions levied on them by [other states].” Further, in 1785, a committee headed by James Monroe recommended amending the Articles of Confederation to give Congress “sole and exclusive” power to regulate commerce. James Madison in his Journal made clear that nationwide regulations on commerce (which Proposition 12 would impose) were a power solely granted to Congress.

Proposition 12 not only oversteps California’s regulatory powers under the U.S. Constitution, it also violates the political principle that those who will be forced to abide by laws should have a voice in them. Pork producers, as well as related producers and workers, in every other state would be forced to abide by laws that they had no say in, because a majority of voters in California, where its burdens would be virtually insignificant, approved forcing others to pay the price to give them what they want. What it most brings to mind is its inconsistency with an important phrase that played a big role in the creation of America: “No taxation [or regulation] without representation.”

ccp

  • Power User
  • ***
  • Posts: 18471
    • View Profile
can schools discriminate on basis of race in admissions ?
« Reply #1736 on: October 30, 2022, 09:55:40 AM »
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/affirmative-action-cases/2022/10/30/id/1094066/

from ACLU lawyer:

"These challenges are a part of a broader attack on the importance and value that the Constitution and that American society place on diversity and inclusion in the core institutions of our society," said Sarah Hinger, an attorney with the American Civil Liberties Union, which has filed briefs in the cases supporting the school"

are  "diversity" and "inclusion" words found in the Constitution?
I did not know that  :wink:

This seems like a far better argument to me:

"The Constitution abhors classifications based on race, not only because those classifications can harm favored races or are based on illegitimate motives, but also because every time the government places citizens on racial registers and makes race relevant to the provision of burdens or benefits, it demeans us all," Thomas wrote in a Grutter v. Bollinger ruling dissent.

Crafty_Dog

  • Administrator
  • Power User
  • *****
  • Posts: 69318
    • View Profile
Re: Issues in the American Creed (Constitutional Law and related matters) SCOTUS
« Reply #1737 on: October 30, 2022, 04:08:24 PM »
Not to mention the Civil War Amendments , , ,

ccp

  • Power User
  • ***
  • Posts: 18471
    • View Profile
Justice Neil Gorsuch
« Reply #1738 on: October 31, 2022, 11:17:11 AM »
https://www.breitbart.com/education/2022/10/31/gorsuch-holistic-admissions-policy-once-used-against-jews/

very interesting he points out this was used against the Jews.

could it be significant that many ACLU and woke attorneys are Jewish that is why this point is made?

I am absolutely not for race or ethnic based admission policies
for colleges

But I would be open to the idea that economics conditions could play a role
that would not discriminate based on race ethnicity gender etc

but on financial societal conditions that could be applied to all Americans


Crafty_Dog

  • Administrator
  • Power User
  • *****
  • Posts: 69318
    • View Profile
The Upside Down Constitution and its Critics
« Reply #1739 on: November 11, 2022, 05:50:13 AM »
The Upside-Down Constitution and Its Critics
Michael S. Greve
– November 6, 2022Reading Time: 14 minutes
AIER >> Daily Economy >> History >> Government >> Books
Print Friendly, PDF & EmailPrintFacebookTwitterLinkedInPinterestRedditFlipboardEmailShare

Reprinted from Law & Liberty

In revisiting The Upside-Down Constitution ten years after I put that baby to bed, I am violating time-honored principles of sensible authorial conduct. One, as a great Dane (Kierkegaard) observed, life makes sense only in retrospect, but you have to live it forward. Never mind second thoughts over past errors; entertain a third thought on what’s ahead of you. Two, never respond to critical reviewers, least of all in a “you-just-didn’t-get-it” tone. Three, do not fret over later events that may have dimmed or doomed your immaculate theory. Could I have predicted a candy-colored President and a “rigged and stolen election”? Only in dreams.

What I have written, I have written. Still, and at the risk of boring reviewers and readers who have heard this all before, I’ll (ab)use this opportunity to re-articulate a few UDC thoughts that may be worth remembering; and I’ll engage what has struck me as the most forceful—or at any rate, corrosive—criticism to date.

Federalism, Competition, and the Constitution

The ostensible subject of UDC is federalism, that oldest question of our Constitution. However, as one of my most perspicacious reviewers (Rob Gasaway, a dear friend and occasional contributor to this site) noted at the time, UDC is about federalism the way Moby Dick is about a whaling voyage. Its transcendent point is that the Constitution has a deep, ingenious structure and logic. That logic was well understood and articulated for the first century-plus of our constitutional history; a few examples appear below. It was rejected and repudiated by the leading lights of the Progressive and New Deal eras. Conventional forms of modern-day originalism do nothing to recover it and may in fact obscure it, and “common good originalism” gets you too far away from the Constitution than is good for anyone. Thus, UDC engages federalism as a way of rehabilitating an ancient thought: to make sense of the Constitution, and to distinguish constitutional elaboration from corruption, you have to understand the nature of the instrument. How?

UDC mobilizes precepts of public choice theory and constitutional political economy, pioneered by James Buchanan (the Nobel Prize economist, not the hapless President). Foremost, you want to think about a written constitution and its structure from an ex-ante perspective, meaning the perspective of folks who deliberate about a future Constitution. (Ex post, most everyone is an opportunist.) Those people must have certain characteristics. Their circumstances must make deliberation both possible and urgent: they need a constitutional moment, to borrow Bruce Ackerman’s apt phrase. They must think of themselves as a single sovereign people. (A collection of tribes, ethnic clans, or identity-mongers can with luck write a temporary peace pact, but never a durable constitution.) And they must have a very long time horizon, lest they succumb to the temptation of freezing temporary advantages into the instrument. 

The public choice template is a convenient way of explicating ideas that the Founders understood perfectly well and, happily and indeed, put on paper. Hamilton’s famous opening passage on “reflection and choice,” versus “accident and force” (Federalist 1): there’s your constitutional moment. John Jay’s disquisition on why and in what way we are “one people” (Federalist 2): there’s your single sovereign. James Madison’s repudiation of Jefferson’s crackpot proposals for single-generation constitutions and frequent popular conventions (Federalist 49): there’s your extended time horizon. UDC works through all that, in long pages of exegesis. And if you insist on a piece of constitutional text, I give you the Preamble: We the people of the United States, etc. And we are doing this for “ourselves and our Posterity.” Res ipsa.

What, from that vantage, of federalism? It is not clear that any federalism is a sensible ex-ante choice. One can plausibly argue that the states, qua states, should disappear. Hamilton and Madison both advocated that program at the Convention. Obviously, though, that wasn’t going to happen. While there is no way the Founders would have invented states had they not already existed, they did exist, with their own political traditions and entrenched institutions. Some form of federalism was a foregone conclusion; the only question was what form it would take. That narrower question turns out to be tolerably straightforward.

For starters, you want a central government that can tax and regulate citizens directly, as opposed to governing states or through states. The Articles of Confederation had operated on that latter principle (as does the EU today): epic fail. The reasons have to do with agency and monitoring costs. The junior governments may not want to do what the general government wants and needs them to do. They will shirk, and when that happens, the central government must resort to armed force (assuming it actually has an army and the means to pay for it) or else, wheedling. In Hamilton’s splendid phrase, the government will become “imbecilic.” So you want federal powers to be “national in operation,” as Madison put it. They operate directly on citizens. They are plenary (they reach as far as they would even if the states did not exist), and they are supreme.

What does that leave for the states? The answer, here as with the separation of powers, is formal separation and functional specialization. Give the feds power to provide public goods and legal arrangements that states cannot provide on their own, starting with the national defense. Prohibit states from doing things that endanger sister-states, or the union. (You can look those up in Article I Sec 10.) Other than that, leave the states to their own devices so long as they have a “republican form of government” (Article IV), meaning some kind of elected legislature. And there you have the logic of limited, enumerated powers. In Madison’s taxonomy of the “compound republic,” the general government’s powers are national in operation, and federal in extent. Make federalism “dual”: separate, specialized, and near-exclusive spheres of federal and state authority.

All this is familiar to the point of ennui. What UDC adds, and what prompted some critics to dismiss the book as libertarian pamphleteering, is the elementary recognition—not mine, but that of a massive body of literature—that “dual” federalism is also and always competitive federalism. On all the margins that are beyond the federal government’s powers, states will have to compete for citizens’ “affections,” as the Federalist put it; for productive citizens and their talents and assets.

Charitable readers who can get past the econ lingo and think in terms of institutional competition will readily recognize the constitutional pattern. The separation of powers, and corresponding checks and balances, constitute a competitive arrangement. The separation of powers is an anti-monopoly device. The next move, of needs, is to make the separate institutions rivalrous, by giving them the means and the motives to block mutual encroachments. (I did not make that up: James Madison did.) Federalism is quite a bit like that: multiple, separate states, with turf-protective incentives.

What does institutional competition get you? Tyranny prevention and constitutional stability, Madison explained apropos the separation of powers and checks and balances. Pursue the thought and apply it to federalism. Citizens in different states will have different demand curves for public goods and accompanying tax payments (which, come to think of it, is the beginning of a pretty good argument for a federal arrangement). And it is child’s play to show that under suitably defined conditions, no state will be able to collect money from A and give it to B (to extract “surplus,” in Jim Buchanan’s parlance), lest the A’s migrate. Lo, those defined conditions are the ones that you find in the Constitution. States are equal, as of constitutional right (we don’t have a Catalonia or Quebec); they are territorial; and they must operate on principles of non-aggression, open borders, and non-discrimination: no standing armies; no import-export duties; no treating other states’ citizens worse than your own. (Hamilton called that principle, enshrined in the Privileges and Immunities Clause of Article IV, the “cornerstone of the union.”) The Founders did not couch their defense of the constitutional arrangement in terms of “competition” in a narrow, economic sense.  But that is the logic of the deliberate institutional choices that they made.

The Constitution’s Federalism, Upside-Down

Explicating the Constitution’s logic in economistic terms has numerous advantages. Most importantly, it sheds light on our constitutional history and development. The Founders understood that the hard constitutional task isn’t really to divide powers between branches or levels of government on mere “parchment,” in Madison’s dismissive term. The hard task is to stabilize the constitutional arrangement over time. The Founders’ strategy, to repeat, was institutionalized competition.

Try as you might, though, to lock institutions into rivalry and competition: in politics as in markets, the institutional actors’ perennial temptation is to collude against citizen-consumers. The people’s agents are repeat players, and over time, they will discover institutional technologies to extract surplus. They will agree to deploy those technologies and to divvy up the surplus amongst themselves somewhere down the road. We have names for those innovations: “the administrative state.” “Cooperative federalism.”

Federalism-wise, states have two ways to thwart competition and to lock themselves into a cartel. First, they can agree to tax and regulate each other’s citizens on a full extraterritorial basis, such that each state’s jurisdiction extends to the ends of the nation. That is way more convenient than taxing your own citizens: the outsiders can neither run away nor vote you out of office. Those kinds of cartels are “self-enforcing,” as economists say: no state can defect; few even have an incentive to try; and the most aggressive state gets to set the pace. (Think products liability, or internet sales taxation.)

Second, states can have a central authority organize cartels and preclude defections. Federal minimum standards for things that states could, constitutionally speaking, do on their own (and which once upon a time were within their exclusive jurisdiction, such as labor conditions): those are cartel arrangements. “Cooperative” conditional federal grant programs, of which are over 1,200: those, too, are cartel arrangements. (They give reticent states a “choice” between complying with federal conditions or else leave money on the table.)

There you have the upside-down constitution, more colloquially known as the New Deal Constitution. Pace Madison, the general government’s powers have very nearly become national in extent and federal in operation. “Cooperative” federalism programs, regulatory or fiscal, covering the full range of domestic affairs and impenetrable even to experts, embody the constitutional strategy the Founders emphatically rejected: a government over governments.

Looking at federalism through this prism permits one to see things that otherwise remain clouded in conservative-libertarian mythology. As in, “the New Deal was a nationalist assault on the states”: the Commerce Clause, and all that. No way, no how: in large measure it was a response to state demand for federal intervention, in a form that would enable states qua states, meaning the political elites, to play a larger role and to shield them against competition (a “race to the bottom,” in New Deal parlance). The vast expansion of the states’ (especially state courts’) extraterritorial jurisdiction in the wake of Erie Railroad: a response to state demand. The demise of “economic substantive due process”: ditto. The Wagner Act, the Fair Labor Standards Act, the massive expansion of federal funding programs: ditto, ditto, ditto.

A second, related insight to emerge from the big-picture analysis is that something is amiss with the Supreme Court’s federalism. Once you permit state and federal powers to run concurrently over nearly the entire range of domestic affairs, you need coordinating rules to manage the overlap: what are they going to be? The Court’s watchword has been federalism’s “balance,” which translates into judicially engineered protections for the poor, pitiful states: various forms of state and official immunities; “clear statement” rules for congressional enactments that threaten to upset the “delicate,” “usual,” “constitutionally mandated” balance; a “presumption against federal preemption” of state law. Some of those doctrines may have a constitutional anchor. But not all do; and whatever the anchor may be, it cannot be “balance.” Go re-read Federalist 45, a diatribe to the effect that charlatans who obsess over the federal balance are the enemies of the people, and royalists at heart.

And consider, if you will, the constitutional structure and text. The first thing to expect in a Constitution that aims to protect “balance” is some binding allocation of tax revenues between the central government and the lower levels of government. Germany, Canada, India, and many other federal countries all have that. We don’t, and not by accident: the option was considered and rejected at the Convention. The Constitution’s principle is not “balance” but (dare I say?) tax competition. And the principal text that speaks to the issue is the Supremacy Clause. That is not a balancing rule but an ironclad, on-off choice-of-law rule: any conflict, federal law prevails. In a foundational case (Gregory v. Ashcroft), the Supreme Court sidestepped that awkward detail by calling the Supremacy Clause “an extraordinary power in a federal system,” with the intended implication that federal statutes aren’t quite as supreme as the Constitution postulates. Sure. You can always make up your own federalism with five votes. But that don’t make it right-side up.

UDC, to repeat, did not attempt to provide a full picture of the state of our federalism. Federalism aficionados who read the book now will be struck by two omissions. One is the interplay between federalism and the inexorable rise of executive government. Our federalism used to come from the Constitution and then from Congress. Now, it comes from the Executive, and the institutional consequences rattle through the system. For example, federalism relations have become much more confrontational and litigious. The second omission is the intensely partisan nature of our federalism. UDC stressed the sectional nature of our politics since the Founding. States have tended to act as blocs, on issues they deem to be of existential concern. Uncompromising opposition by one or another state bloc against the dominant political coalition has been the only meaningful obstacle to federally sponsored cartels. Witness the state of our contemporary politics: it is sectional, alright. It is also vehemently partisan.

Perhaps, I should have said more about those dynamics. If I had to re-write the book’s “Concluding Essay,” that is where my thoughts on these matters would appear. But I don’t think any of this would change the way I think about federalism or the constitutional enterprise at large.

But Is It Law?

Back in 2012, Yale Law School’s Professor Jack Balkin kindly sponsored a forum on UDC on his blog (and because he is a mensch, his further thoughts will appear on this site in short order). The critical essays by Gillian Metzger, Rick Hills, Michael McConnell, Ernie Young, Neil Siegel, Sandy Levinson, and Jack himself remain illuminating to this day. Having re-read them while noodling over this essay, I have re-discovered much food for sober reflection—and one line of criticism that, on first or second or even third thought, I must resist. It is exemplified by former Judge, then-Professor Michael McConnell’s review: Good book. Except, UDC “is better understood as a work of political science than of constitutional law.” The objection is understandable but, with all respect and in all friendship, misguided or at least misguiding.

UDC is profoundly constitutionalist and, if you will, originalist in spirit and substance. In trying to recover the Constitution’s logic and structure, the book does nothing without the text, let alone against it. An Appendix provides a schematic overview of the Constitution’s federal structure and gives every single federalism-related clause its place. The point is to show that the document does indeed have a coherent structure. Once you see it, you will see why the individual clauses belong where they appear. You will also see that the Constitution isn’t perfect. Some clauses are downright dopey. Others, chiefly the ones having to do with slavery, aren’t even constitutional in a robust, Buchananite sense: they are political compromises, on an issue where the Convention could not see its way clear to a genuinely constitutional solution. UDC drags patient readers through all that. And it seeks to demonstrate that everything I try to explain in terms of public choice theory was well understood by the Founders. What more am I supposed to do by way of proving my constitutionalist bona fides?

UDC, Michael McConnell noted, was “essentially silent on what [the author] thinks the various constitutional provisions relating to federalism mean, which is what constitutional interpretation is all about.” I get the idea, your Honor, and I plead guilty up to a point; but you lost me at “all about.” I do not believe that constitutional understanding can be reduced to constitutional meaning and interpretation. As Cass Sunstein has cogently argued, “There Is Nothing That Interpretation Just Is.” You have to say more, and a book that seeks to explicate the Constitution’s structure—beyond conventional interpretation—does not on that account cease to be (constitutional) law.

In a few short introductory pages, UDC tried to explain why the obsession with ”meaning” is a rabbit hole. You get to explore the meaning of meaning in countless caverns, inhabited by scholars who insist that theirs is the one and only legitimate method of interpretation. Stick your head in there, and you will never emerge with a genuine constitutional thought. I frankly have no idea whether I am a Wittgensteinian or a Kambartelian or something else; but I do know that my constitutional views don’t hang on it. If “living constitutionalists” proffer an exotic theory of linguistic indeterminacy, my answer is the one I give to my libertarian friends who fabricate their own Constitution: feel free. If corpus linguistics—the latest rage in orthodox originalist circles—tells me that the friendly janitor at the U.S. Mint may be an ”officer of the United States” and so must be appointed in accordance with Article II, I concede that the enterprise may shed light on “meaning.” However, I still ask why any sentient Convention member would write a Constitution of that import. As Professor Richard Epstein has written, with respect to administrative law and in admiration of nineteenth-century jurists who “tended to decide cases without using any overwrought methodological apparatus”: “The lower the level of intellectual angst, the more accurate and reliable will be the interpretations given.” Meaning matters. But you don’t want to make that inquiry the touchstone of what is or isn’t law, especially not constitutional law. You will want to think like a nineteenth-century jurist—say, John Marshall, or Joseph Story.

As every 2-L learns, the foundational opinions in McCulloch v. Maryland or Martin v. Hunter’s Lessee do not turn on textual exegesis. They turn on extended expositions of what I call the Constitution’s “logic” and the illustrious Justices called its “nature,” “spirit,” or “the genius of republican government.” Why bother with all that when the text—“necessary and proper,” “all Cases in Law and Equity,” the Supremacy Clause—lies so readily at hand? Because the nature of the instrument tells you how to read it. Once you see that, but only once you see it, the clauses make all the sense in the world and you will know how to read them. The Founders put them there because they did not want to leave the matter to “mere reason” or “general reasoning,” as John Marshall splendidly wrote in McCulloch. (The phrases re-appear in Story’s Martin opinion.) Only then do the Justices turn to interpretation: “necessary” need not mean “absolutely necessary.” “All” in Article III means that the entire Judicial Power of the United States must at all times vest in some federal tribunal, in original or appellate form. You can quarrel, as I do, with those particular arguments. (E.g., I wish I could agree with Justice Story’s take on Article III but I can’t, because the constitutional text gets in the way.) But there is no doubt about the structure of the argument: from the nature of the beast to its individual clauses.

Pursue the point and stick with just those two opinions: fixing the interpretive meaning of the clauses, in light of the Constitution’s genius, is just a prelude to the crucial constitutional enterprise of explicating tenable doctrine. McCulloch’s “necessary and proper” analysis grounds a pretext doctrine, derived from “the letter and the spirit of the Constitution” (my italics). Martin’s reading of the Judiciary Act, too, eventually hangs on the nature of the Constitution. Logically as well as descriptively, doctrine rather than clause-bound interpretation is the heart of the constitutional enterprise. Logically, because there is no way of “adapting” an unchanging Constitution to the “various crises of human affairs” (McCulloch again; original italics) except by means of constitutionally derived, abstract-concrete rules that we call, collectively, “doctrine.” Descriptively, because that is how judges, lawyers, and academics actually do constitutional law—how they write opinions, briefs, and articles. Maybe that is all make-believe. But it is necessary and constitutionally required make-believe. UDC supposes that the doctrinal middle ground is the true ground of constitutional law, and that it is defensible and worth exploring.

I cannot see an alternative. At one end lies legal realism, the lingua franca of a Supreme Court commentariat that does not even pretend to engage either itself or its audience in any genuinely constitutional conversation. At the other end lies a positivist originalism that contests the middle ground as just too open to improvisation. Obsess over “meaning,” though, and you will first miss the music and then even the notes; and it’s not like improvisation will end. Originalists with impeccable Federalist Society credentials and dozens of law review articles on exquisite originalist hermeneutics to their credit have told me that the Constitution establishes a “presumption of liberty.” They say so in the teeth of a text that provides that the Congress can tax just about anything and anyone at any rate and, moreover, has power to take your life, liberty, and property, subject only to the structural constraints contained in the document. Others have averred that there is a constitutional right to same-sex marriage in the 14th Amendment. Federalism-wise, the Supreme Court, in an opinion authored by its most earnestly originalist member, has held that a state agency cannot be made a party to a federal agency proceeding because that would violate the state’s “dignity.” Seriously?

All that is “law” in the way LA Law is law. Yet it has sprung—paradoxically, it would seem, but predictably to my mind—from the minds of learned jurists who obsess over meaning. And I am supposed to be the PoliSci guy who makes things up and doesn’t care about constitutional law? No way. Stand me up at the gates of Hell, or at any FedSoc confab: I won’t back down.

Hegelian at Heart (Up to a Point)
UDC rests on two unarticulated but firm convictions. Both are products of my Teutonic, Hegelian education.

One: if you think you have had an original thought, you are either illiterate or delusional, and quite possibly both. On that score, I plead innocent. Far from advancing some newfangled theory, UDC tries to recover old truths and to put lost intellectual pieces back together.

Two: any thought that cannot reflect upon the contingent conditions of its own origins is, or will soon become, raw ideology. That includes originalism. Quite a bit like the Founders’ federalism, modern-day originalism was born of necessity: conservatives needed an intellectually respectable way of fighting William Brennan’s made-up Constitution, and “judicial restraint” didn’t cut it. Ab ovo and ever since, originalism has shifted shape in conformity with political imperatives. Brown v. Board has to be right. The New Deal Constitution is water under the bridge. Obergefell must be right. And so on. Everyone understands the ideological nature of those moves. Yet nary a mainstream originalist will admit to it or reflect upon it, lest originalism appear as instrumental rather than timeless truth. And so, over time, originalism has come to resemble a parody of the ideological contentions that absorbed 20th-century Marxists. The -ists argue over what kind of -ists they and you and me are. Some have dug in their heels on increasingly abstruse semantics; others have attacked the true-blue -ists’ embarrassingly open flanks. For the diehards, there is Bostock originalism; for renegades and heretics, Adrian Vermeule has a book. I have followed those contretemps on this site and in the law reviews and elsewhere, but only out of the corner of my eye and out of professional necessity. As for the actual Constitution, there’s more to learn from a three-minute record.

I have stated my heterodox positions at public events and on Law & Liberty, but only after UDC. Should I have explained them in the book? My best answer still is “no.” If you tackle meaning and interpretation head-on, or even if you start the inquiry on that note, the meaning-of-meaning contingents will drag you onto their turf and eat you alive, regardless of what you may have to say about the Constitution itself. In that very real sense, interpretive originalism has become the disease it was meant to cure. And so instead, UDC asks its readers—sub silentio, or esoterically if you will, but either way quite plainly—for a certain willful innocence: ignore the meta-theoretical distractions. Instead, approach the Constitution in the spirit that, on the authority of McCulloch, inheres in the document itself: the disposition of the normal, reasonably educated and sensible citizens for whom the instrument was written. You will see, or so it still seems to me, that the right-side-up Constitution’s logic—its nature, genius, spirit—is simply irresistible.

Print Friendly, PDF & EmailPrintFacebookTwitterLinkedInPinterestRedditFlipboardEmailShare
READ MORE
Michael S. Greve

Michael S. Greve is Professor of Law at Antonin Scalia Law School. His numerous publications include The Upside-Down Constitution (Harvard University Press, 2012).



Crafty_Dog

  • Administrator
  • Power User
  • *****
  • Posts: 69318
    • View Profile
SCOTUS urged to rule on independent bureaucratic funding
« Reply #1742 on: November 22, 2022, 05:48:31 AM »
ET
SUPREME COURT

Justices urged to mull independent funding for Wall Street watchdog

BY ALEX SWOYER AND STEPHEN DINAN THE WASHINGTON TIMES

The Supreme Court has been asked to step into a thorny debate over whether Sen. Elizabeth Warren’s idea of a Wall Street policing agency is legal, potentially adding another major case to a docket already packed with affirmative action, voting and LGBTQ issues.

U.S. Solicitor General Elizabeth Prelogar asked the justices to reverse a lower-court ruling saying the executive branch’s Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB) steals Congress’ power of the purse by having independent funding.

Ms. Prelogar asked the justices to speed the case onto their calendar and hear it during this term. That would likely mean a court decision by June.

The CFPB’s independent financing was at the heart of the idea of creating an agency to police Wall Street in the wake of the 2008 financial collapse. Ms. Warren, at the time a law professor at Harvard University, promoted the idea as a way to have a regulator that was free of political pressure from Congress. She is now a Democratic senator from Massachusetts.

The 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said last month that whatever the merits of the idea, the Constitution demands that government be accountable to Congress, meaning agencies must subject their funding to lawmakers’ oversight.

The circuit court said the CFPB’s payday lending rule is illegally tied to the CFPB’s funding scheme, creating the clash with the Biden administration.

“No other court has ever held that Congress violated the appropriations clause by passing a statute authorizing spending,” Ms. Prelogar said in asking the justices to overturn the appeals court’s decision.

Created by a Democratic-controlled Congress and signed into law by

President Obama in 2010, the CFPB was intended to be insulated from both branches of government.

It was given a single director who would be appointed and confirmed by the Senate but couldn’t be removed unless the president showed good cause. The CFPB takes its financing directly from the Federal Reserve, putting it out of reach of the annual appropriations process on Capitol Hill.

The Supreme Court has ruled that the removal provision violated the Constitution. Now CFPB opponents are back to challenge the financing.

The 5th Circuit’s ruling stands in contrast with other federal appeals courts, which have upheld the agency’s arrangement. Those other courts noted that other federal agencies, such as the Federal Reserve and the Federal Housing Finance Agency, also have budget autonomy.

The 5th Circuit said the CFPB is “double-insulated” from Congress and its regulatory power is far greater than the other agencies in question.

Ms. Prelogar said Congress effectively answered the question of appropriations when it set up the CFPB.

The 5th Circuit’s ruling didn’t close the agency. It did invalidate the payday lending rule, which became effective in 2018 during the Trump administration, though it was issued by a director installed by Mr. Obama. The rule restricted lenders’ ability to provide loans unless the consumers determined that they could repay them according to certain terms. It also restricted lenders’ access to accounts.

That policy was intended to resolve what the bureau saw as predatory lending practices.

The 5th Circuit said the rule must be vacated because it can be tied to the CFPB’s unconstitutional funding structure.

At least four justices are needed to vote in favor of reviewing the 5th Circuit’s decision for the petition to be granted.

Devin Watkins, an attorney with the Competitive Enterprise Institute, said he thinks the high court will take up the invitation to review the case. He reasoned that the 5th Circuit ruling ensures “Congress can’t create an unaccountable funding mechanism.”

He said that would be worth the court’s time.

“Ultimately, if the payday lending rule were invalidated, everything the CFPB has ever done could end up being invalidated until Congress decides to fund the CFPB,” Mr. Watkins said

Crafty_Dog

  • Administrator
  • Power User
  • *****
  • Posts: 69318
    • View Profile
MSN: Dems give CJ Roberts an ultimatum
« Reply #1743 on: November 22, 2022, 10:54:55 AM »
second

Democrats Give Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts An Ultimatum
Story by Paul Blumenthal • Yesterday 3:14 PM

Top Democrats on the House and Senate Judiciary Committees demanded on Sunday that Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts comply with their investigation into the court’s refusal to abide by ethics laws.

And if the court continues to suggest it’s not serious about policing itself, Congress will step in, warned the joint letter from Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (D-R.I.), and Rep. Hank Johnson (D-Ga.), chairs of the subcommittees overseeing the federal judiciary in their respective chambers.

“If the Court, as your letter suggests, is not willing to undertake fact-finding inquiries into possible ethics violations that leaves Congress as the only forum,” they wrote.

The letter came a day after The New York Times reported that Justice Samuel Alito leaked the outcome of a 2014 decision in the case of Hobby Lobby v. Burwell. Alito reportedly spoke about the decision ahead of its release to Supreme Court Historical Society donors who were part of an influence operation led by a former conservative evangelical leader, Rev. Rob Schenck.

The two lawmakers firmly stated Congress’ right to investigate the court and demanded Roberts provide information related to the influence operation run by Schenck through his Faith & Action group.

They also demanded information about Schenck’s letter to Roberts in July disclosing that he learned about the Hobby Lobby outcome days before it came down from one of his volunteers after she attended a dinner with Alito and his wife. Schenck sent his letter as part of the court’s investigation into the leak of the Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization decision that overturned Roe v. Wade. Alito, who authored both the Dobbs and Hobby Lobby decisions, denied leaking the Hobby Lobby outcome. 

Whitehouse and Johnson asked Roberts to identify the individuals or offices involved in investigating any element of the influence campaign or Schenck’s allegations about Alito. It also asked him to identify those in charge of “policing the relationship between the Supreme Court and the Supreme Court Historical Society to ensure that paid membership in the Society is not used as a means of gaining undue influence.”

In a sign that their investigation is moving towards hearings, the two lawmakers stated that the court should “designate an individual knowledgeable about” these issues “to provide testimony to us about ... issues related to ethics or reporting questions raised about justices’ conduct.”


Their letter to Roberts on Sunday followed up on a prior inquiry Whitehouse and Johnson made on Sept. 7 after Politico first reported on Schenck’s influence campaign. At the time, they wrote to Roberts to encourage the court to adopt a formal ethics code. They demanded answers about how many justices were provided travel, dinners, lodging and other hospitality from donors connected to Schenck’s influence operation and why the justices did not disclose these gifts on their annual financial disclosure statements.

Whitehouse posted the Nov. 7 response he and Johnson received from the legal counsel of the court on Twitter on Saturday, after the New York Times story came out. The court’s response simply restated which ethics laws apply to the court and that court’s court’s code of conduct, which is non-binding and unenforced, exists.

“Tellingly, it notes the existence of the wall-decoration code, but is not responsive to my letter and shows no sign of inquiry or interest in what went on,” Whitehouse tweeted.

Progressive groups called for a Senate investigation into the Alito allegations following their disclosure on Saturday.

Since Democrats lost control of the House in the midterm elections, Johnson will lose the gavel of the House Judiciary Committee’s subcommittee overseeing the courts in January. But Democrats kept control of the Senate.

That means that Whitehouse can still compel testimony and hold hearings through the subcommittee he chairs on the Senate Judiciary Committee for at least the next two years.

ccp

  • Power User
  • ***
  • Posts: 18471
    • View Profile
Re: Issues in the American Creed (Constitutional Law and related matters) SCOTUS
« Reply #1744 on: November 22, 2022, 02:36:21 PM »
"The letter came a day after The New York Times reported that Justice Samuel Alito leaked the outcome of a 2014 decision in the case of Hobby Lobby v. Burwell."

NYT leads the Dem politicians by the nose here
funny

no one demanding Roberts find the leaker of Dobbs vs Wade

instead divert attention away from that to bring up something obscure from 8 yrs ago

dem shysters do this every time

wonder if Larry Lib was behind this


Crafty_Dog

  • Administrator
  • Power User
  • *****
  • Posts: 69318
    • View Profile
Dobbs sends law school profs scrambling
« Reply #1745 on: December 30, 2022, 06:38:25 AM »
Abortion ruling sends law schools scrambling, constitutional law teachings now out-of-step
By Stephen Dinan and Alex Swoyer - The Washington Times - Friday, December 30, 2022

The Supreme Court’s decision this summer didn’t just upend abortion law — it sent law professors scrambling to retool how they teach constitutional law itself.

From classrooms to casebooks, teachers are grappling with the justices’ ruling in Dobbs v. Jackson, wondering what it means for big legal concepts like fealty to precedent and the court’s role in refereeing itself, as well as Congress and the presidency.

Josh Blackman, a professor at South Texas College of Law and editor of a “Con Law” casebook, said they are rethinking years of teaching that the Roe v. Wade decision establishing a national right to abortion and a follow-up case, 1992’s Casey decision, were “safe” from future court meddling.

“Dobbs changes the narrative of constitutional law,” said Mr. Blackman. “Roe and Casey were finally overruled. The Supreme Court did so, without regard to its reputation among progressives and elites. And substantive due process is a very shaky foundation. Dobbs caused a fundamental transformation of how constitutional law operates.”

Lois Shepherd, a law professor at the University of Virginia who will be teaching a reproductive law class next year, said the debate has shifted from looking at the contours of rights to whether those rights actually exist.

She said her students will explore the ramifications of Dobbs, including its potential effect on other high court precedents dealing with marriage rights and privacy.

“We’ll need to consider the political situation that has brought us here — how this was a long game for anti-abortion strategists and how much this decision depended upon certain judicial appointments,” she said. “Spending time thinking about the court in a more political way than in the past in my class is probably going to be necessary,” she said.

She added: “Honestly, the decision is so huge in impact that it deserves an entire semester-long course.”

In Dobbs, the court ruled that Roe, the 1973 case that identified a right to abortion in the U.S. Constitution, was junk.

Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr., writing the chief opinion, delivered a withering takedown, saying the original decision was a charade, built upon shaky legal reasoning.

“It is time to heed the Constitution and return the issue of abortion to the people’s elected representatives,” he said. “The Constitution does not prohibit the citizens of each State from regulating or prohibiting abortion.”

More crucially, he said the passage of nearly five decades couldn’t paper over those deficiencies. It was a blaring announcement that talk of cases as “super-precedent” would no longer fly.

The ruling also cast some doubt on a legal doctrine known as “substantive due process,” which is a way of looking at individual rights protected within the Constitution.

Justice Clarence Thomas, in a concurring opinion, said the idea lacks “any basis in the Constitution.” He said with Roe out, it may be time to look at other cases based on substantive due process, including ones dealing with same-sex marriage and the right to contraception.

Justice Thomas has led a revolution at the high court that stretches beyond abortion, with recent rulings on guns and religious freedom that also signal the dominance of his originalist approach to deciding constitutional cases.

That’s something law professors must grapple with, said Richard Albert, who is director of constitutional studies at the University of Texas at Austin.

“It would be professional malpractice for any professor of constitutional law not to introduce students to the theory of originalism because that is now ascendant on the court,” Mr. Albert said.

He led a program for law professors over the summer, just after Dobbs, where they pondered how to teach constitutional law in the midst of those shifts: “Do you still teach Roe, do you teach only Dobbs? What kind of questions do you ask students? What kind of discussion do you seed in class? How provocative do you get?”

As for his students, Mr. Albert said they’ve been girding for a ruling like Dobbs for several years, and it’s changed the way they’ve approached constitutional law, transforming them from scholars into “scholar-activists.”

“They’re thinking creatively about how to defend their values. And it’s not just, by the way, students who are opposed to the ruling in Dobbs. You have students who may feel the other side, and their view now is ascendant,” he said. “Law has always been a tool to engineer society and to reengineer society. That’s just the nature of law. So when I notice a shift from scholar to scholar-activist, for me it’s completely appropriate for students to do that, on either side.”

For some professors, the moment is a scary time as they’ve become unmoored from decisions they had become attached to.

“I have always perceived of the law as a tool for justice,” Jolynn Childers Dellinger, a professor at Duke Law School told Slate, “and my faith that the law is being used toward that end has definitely been shaken by this Supreme Court.”

The ruling may also be affecting students personally.

Law.com wondered whether students would flee from schools in states that have more restrictive abortion laws, pointing out since 2016, women make up a majority of new law school enrollees.

The publication also said schools were trying to sort through how to help students “cope” with the realities of the decision.

That’s just as true for some of the teachers.

G.S. Hans, an associate clinical professor of law at Cornell University, penned a piece this summer wondering how professors are supposed to teach constitutional law “while the Supreme Court is wrecking it.”

He said that while the current “supercharged” and “hyperconservative” court is stirring passions, it’s just unwinding a “fairy tale” many lawyers have adopted that the court is a bulwark of individual rights. He said it’s time professors teach the court’s ability to be swayed by legal realism.

“And although it can come off as cynical, I find it hard to argue against cynicism given how radical the Court has become,” he wrote.

Other teachers took a more scholarly view.

David Cohen, a law professor at Drexel University said he has always told students that constitutional law is ever-changing. He noted how lessons on constitutional rights changed over time when the court issued rulings varying from Plessy v. Ferguson to Brown v. Board of Education, and so on.

“I’m always just teaching a snapshot in time and the history of constitutional law is that it is ever-changing,” he said.

“The Supreme Court gets romanticized from the left and the right and in doing so, we forget they are a political body, with political actors, making political decisions and that doesn’t mean we don’t have to teach what the law is and what the doctrine is — we do — but at the end of the day, these are political actors,” Mr. Cohen said.

• Stephen Dinan can be reached at sdinan@washingtontimes.com.

• Alex Swoyer can be reached at aswoyer@washingtontimes.com.

Crafty_Dog

  • Administrator
  • Power User
  • *****
  • Posts: 69318
    • View Profile
About time SCOTUS took a look at this! CFPB
« Reply #1746 on: January 02, 2023, 05:56:18 AM »
Supreme Court to look at CFPB case on budget, Congress

Created 12 years ago as part of Dodd-Frank law

BY DAVE BOYER THE WASHINGTON TIMES

The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau could be nearing the end of its run as a regulator free from Congress controlling its budget.

The bureau, which is funded by the Federal Reserve, is asking the conservative Supreme Court to uphold that arrangement, which Republicans say is unconstitutional. But the CFPB’s legal arguments to the high court contradict its long-standing position that it doesn’t receive appropriations from Congress.

The Biden administration, confronted with a federal appeals court ruling that found the CFPB’s funding method violates the Constitution, has asked the Supreme Court to hear an appeal and make a decision by this spring. The administration said the ruling “calls into question virtually every action the CFPB has taken in the 12 years since it was created,” and that leaving the agency’s funding in limbo would have “major” consequences for the U.S. financial industry.

Analysts say the problem has been brewing ever since Congress created the CFPB for consumer protection in 2010 as part of the Dodd-Frank law imposing more regulations on the financial services industry. The legislation was a response to the Wall Street meltdown of 2008-09.

“There’s always been from the very beginning clouds of legal uncertainty around the CFPB,” said Adam White, a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute and co-director of George Mason University’s Gray Center for the Study of the Administrative State. “The Biden administration is clearly very keen to get this in front of the justices.”

The CFPB was conceived largely by Sen. Elizabeth Warren, Massachusetts Democrat, when she was a professor at Harvard University. Its mission is to police against “unfair, deceptive, or abusive” business practices in areas ranging from credit cards to payday loans.

Over 12 years, the CFPB has sent more than 3.3 million consumer complaints to companies, with a 98% timely response rate by financial firms, according to the House Financial Services Committee. It has delivered more than $14.9 billion in monetary compensation, principal reductions, canceled debts and other consumer relief.

Among its recent actions, the bureau reached a $3.7 billion settlement with Wells Fargo this month over abuses tied to mortgages, auto loans and overdraft fees.

The bank was ordered to pay a $1.7 billion civil penalty and more than $2 billion “in redress to consumers,” the CFPB said.

To ensure the CFPB’s independence, lawmakers set up its funding to come directly from the Fed instead of annual congressional appropriations. The agency’s director is authorized to request whatever funding he or she believes is “reasonably necessary” to carry out CFPB’s operations, as long as the amount doesn’t exceed 12% of the Federal Reserve’s “total operating expenses.” (The bureau was allowed to exceed the cap by $200 million in each of its first five years as long as it notifi ed the president and Congress of any anticipated surplus).

For fiscal 2022, the CFPB requested $642 million for operations that include 1,600 employees. In 2018, the bureau requested $381 million.

The bureau is headed by a sole director appointed by the president and confirmed by the Senate. Current Director Rohit Chopra was nominated by President Biden and confirmed by the Senate for a five-year term in September 2021.

Conservatives have long argued that the CFPB isn’t accountable to voters because it evades Congress’ power of the purse. They have criticized the bureau under Democratic administrations as a regulator run amok, saddling businesses with a wide array of new red tape such as the Payday Lending Rule, which was crafted during the Obama administration and finalized during the first year of the Trump administration.

The complaints came to a head on Oct. 19, when the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals vacated the Payday Lending Rule because, the judges said, the CFPB’s funding is unconstitutional. The court said that the bureau’s “perpetual insulation from Congress’s appropriations power, including the express exemption from congressional review of its funding, renders the bureau ‘no longer dependent and, as a result, no longer accountable’ to Congress and, ultimately, to the people.”

By creating this self-funding system, the court ruled, “Congress ran afoul of the separation of powers embodied in the Appropriations Clause.”

In urging the Supreme Court to hear its appeal of the ruling, the Biden administration said the Fifth Circuit relied on an “erroneous” interpretation of the Constitution’s Appropriations Clause.

“Congress enacted a statute explicitly authorizing the CFPB to use a specified amount of funds from a specified source for specifi ed purposes,” the administration said in its brief. “The Appropriations Clause requires nothing more.”

The CFPB said its funding method “indisputably establishes an appropriation under the longaccepted understanding of that term.”

But Mr. White points out that the bureau and its leaders have consistently and repeatedly claimed since its creation that the CFPB does not receive “appropriations.”

Among the examples, then-Director Richard Cordray testifi ed to Congress in 2012 that the bureau’s revenues were “nonappropriated funds.” And the bureau’s annual report in 2014 said Dodd-Frank gave it “a source of funding outside the appropriations process.”

“The agency itself, throughout its entire life, has insisted that its funding is not appropriations,” Mr. White said. “Suddenly, the agency has discovered that all along it did get appropriations. I don’t think the agency has been that foolish for that long. I think they are now suddenly changing their story and trying to reframe what Dodd-Frank did. Dodd-Frank was not an appropriation statute.”

The CFPB’s legal brief to the Supreme Court said Congress “is free to modify the Bureau’s funding at any time by simply passing a statute.” It also notes that the federal Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia upheld the CFPB’s funding mechanism because it “fits within the tradition of independent financial regulators.”

The Biden administration said it’s worried that the Fifth Circuit’s ruling will invite new legal challenges to the CFPB’s regulations and will frustrate its “critical work administering and enforcing consumer financial protection laws.”

For example, the administration said if CFPB’s regulations on home loans were vacated, “mortgage lenders would have to immediately modify the disclosures they give millions of consumers each year, and borrowers could seek to rescind certain mortgage transactions that had relied on regulatory disclosure exceptions.” The Mortgage Bankers Association, National Association of Home Builders, and National Association of Realtors have warned that calling into question the CFPB’s past actions could bring “catastrophic” results for the real estate finance industry.

Mr. White dismissed the claim that a Supreme Court ruling against the CFPB would result in economic chaos.

“American financial institutions’ fortunes do not rise and fall merely on the existence of a single federal agency,” he said. “To the extent that the CFPB has for a decade leveraged enormous power over financial institutions based on an extremely shaky constitutional foundation, that reflects a mistake of the CFPB and of the people who created it.”

At a House Financial Services Committee hearing on Dec. 14, Mr. Chopra said the CFPB is taking a variety of actions, including issuing orders to Big Tech firms regarding their use of payment platforms such as Apple Pay, PayPal and Venmo. He said the bureau wants to know “what data they are extracting from transactions and whether they can use that data to preference their other business lines.”

“We are also particularly interested in how these payment platforms implement existing consumer protections, as well as how they make decisions on account approvals, freezes, and terminations,” Mr. Chopra said.

DougMacG

  • Power User
  • ***
  • Posts: 18207
    • View Profile
Don't underestimate Justice Clarence Thomas
« Reply #1747 on: January 12, 2023, 08:40:54 AM »
https://reason.com/2023/01/07/dont-underestimate-clarence-thomas/

SCOTUS, Thomas, a fiercely independent thinker with an excellent legal mind

Excellent, in depth read.  Author doesn't agree with Thomas on everything but does a good job with analysis.

(Doug) Magazines award man or person of the year honors. If it was for the last 30 years, this is your man.

Crafty_Dog

  • Administrator
  • Power User
  • *****
  • Posts: 69318
    • View Profile
Re: Issues in the American Creed (Constitutional Law and related matters) SCOTUS
« Reply #1748 on: January 13, 2023, 10:04:02 AM »
Nice find Doug.

Crafty_Dog

  • Administrator
  • Power User
  • *****
  • Posts: 69318
    • View Profile
The Supreme Court's Complicity in Our Loss of Freedom
« Reply #1749 on: January 16, 2023, 05:06:43 AM »
I found this article on deep themes very interesting.

For the record as I read it I felt uncomfortable with his all too brief assessment of Brown v. Board of Education and his dismissal of the exclusionary rule but overall, he takes on a big picture discussion with good depth IMHO.

https://www.aier.org/article/the-supreme-courts-complicity-in-our-loss-of-freedom/
The Supreme Court’s Complicity in Our Loss of Freedom
George LeefGeorge Leef
– January 14, 2023

After the Constitution had been drafted, it was submitted to the states for ratification. It had quite a few opponents, called the Anti-Federalists. They argued that the proposed government would have too much power and would become a danger to the people’s rights. Most of their fire was aimed at Articles I and II, which created the legislative and executive branches, but some Anti-Federalists also expressed fears that the judiciary in Article III could become a menace. Seeking to allay all such fears, the Constitution’s proponents wrote 85 essays known as The Federalist Papers.

In Federalist 78, Alexander Hamilton defended the judiciary, calling it “the least dangerous branch” since it would have neither the legislature’s control over spending nor the executive’s power of enforcement. Hamilton argued that judicial review, the ability of a court (in this case the Supreme Court) to invalidate legislation passed by a legislature (in this case Congress) posed no threat to the rights of Americans, but was essential in protecting them against possible encroachments by the political branches.

So how has judicial review worked out?

That’s the question addressed by Hillsdale history professor Paul Moreno in his new book How the Court Became Supreme: The Origins of American Juristocracy. He provides readers with a comprehensive history of the concept of judicial review, beginning in England in the 17th century and through to the latest developments in the US Supreme Court. Moreno’s conclusion is that judicial review was a good idea but has gone terribly awry. Rather than protecting our rights under the Constitution, the Court has chosen to turn a blind eye to violations of ones it doesn’t regard as “fundamental,” and has at the same time created pseudo-rights that require coercion against peaceful people. It has been, all in all, a failure.

In the US, the history of judicial review traditionally begins with the famous 1803 case Marbury v. Madison. (Actually, there were a few obscure cases where courts declared laws unenforceable prior to Marbury, as Moreno’s deep research shows.) In Marbury, Chief Justice John Marshall ruled that Congress had unconstitutionally enlarged the Supreme Court’s original jurisdiction (cases that could be brought directly to it) in the Judiciary Act of 1791, and for that reason William Marbury, a last-minute appointment as a Justice of the Peace by President Adams, could not receive the writ of mandamus he sought to compel Secretary of State James Madison to deliver his commission. While he was legally entitled to his office, he had brought his case to the wrong court.

Marbury never pursued the matter, indicating that the case was set up to allow Marshall to declare that the Supreme Court was empowered to declare laws not in accordance with the Constitution to be null and void. How important was Marbury? Moreno argues that far too much is made of it. The case was scarcely mentioned for many decades afterwards and was perfectly in line with the thinking of most of the Founders. And it did not infringe on the rights of the people.

Throughout John Marshall’s long tenure, the Court strongly upheld property and contract rights, greatly aiding the nation’s economic development. In 1824, in Gibbons v. Ogden for example, the Court struck down a New York monopoly granted to Robert Fulton to run steamboats on the Hudson River. Congress alone had the authority to regulate interstate commerce, and state acts that interfered with commerce were unconstitutional, Marshall held. The Court was protecting freedom.

After the Civil War, however, the Court began to turn away from using judicial review to protect freedom and instead approved laws that whittled away at it. In the Slaughterhouse Cases (1873), the Court upheld a monopoly that Louisiana had granted to a cattle slaughtering business in New Orleans against a charge that doing so violated the rights of other businesses under the 14th Amendment. Ratified in 1868, the 14th Amendment was intended to make permanent the Civil Rights Act of 1866, protecting recently freed Blacks against discriminatory legislation. But the language of the 14th Amendment was racially neutral, protecting all citizens against state laws that deprived them of life, liberty, or property without due process of law, abridged the privileges or immunities of citizenship, or deprived them of equal protection of the laws. So was a state monopoly a violation of the rights of the other butchers in New Orleans?

The Court said no, declaring that the 14th Amendment only applied to the “privileges or immunities” of US citizenship, not state citizenship. Therefore, this piece of special-interest legislation was allowed to stand, despite a passionate dissent from Justice Stephen Field, who argued that “the right of free labor” was among the rights that the 14th Amendment was written to protect. Mistakenly, the Court neglected its duty to strike down a special-interest law that took freedom away from some citizens.

In a similar vein, in 1876 the Court approved a state law fixing prices for grain elevators in Munn v. Illinois. It was permissible, the majority held, for the state to take away the freedom of a business to set prices for its services where the property was “affected with the public interest.” Again, special-interest politics (the farm lobby wanted the state to limit prices for grain storage) won out and the Court wasn’t troubled by the consequent erosion of liberty.

Even in that era, the Court was sometimes inclined to rule against state coercion and in favor of liberty. The most famous case was Lochner v. New York (1905), where, in a 5-4 decision, the Court held that a statute that set a maximum number of hours bakers could work during a week was a violation of the 14th Amendment, which protected liberty of contract. In a famous dissent, Justice Holmes complained that “the 14th Amendment does not enact Mr. Herbert Spencer’s Social Statics.” Of course not, but it was meant to defend people’s freedom against having a choice as basic as how much to work taken away by government edict.

Law professors almost invariably ridicule Lochner as a bad decision where the justices imposed their values to override the democratic process. That’s the wrong way to look at it. They were safeguarding an individual’s freedom against encroachment by the state, a proper application of judicial review.

During this time period, some decisions struck down laws that took freedom away, giving rise to the mistaken notion of a “laissez-faire” Court. That’s mistaken because, as Moreno shows, there were also cases where the Court allowed governments to get away with highly illiberal policies, most notably the eugenics case Buck v. Bell in 1927.

From the cases the “progressives” lost, however, they drew a lesson: concentrate on using law schools to train future lawyers to think the progressive way, and staff the courts with judges who were favorable to the use of government power to accomplish social and economic transformation.

In that, they were highly successful. An early breakthrough came in 1916 when President Wilson nominated Louis Brandeis for an empty seat on the Court. Brandeis was a progressive who would become known for what legal scholars and his fellow justices called “Gefuhlsjurisprudenz” – German for “jurisprudence by sentiment.” To Brandeis, getting the desired outcome meant far more than the letter of the law.

After the Great Depression hit, the Court was faced with a series of cases in which government power was employed to supposedly fix the nation’s troubles. Initially, the Court was content to approve such measures. In Nebbia v. New York (1934), the Court upheld a state regulation of the price of milk where a merchant was fined for selling milk below the mandated price. And in Home Building and Loan v. Blaisdell (1934) the Court approved of a Minnesota law putting a moratorium on mortgage foreclosures. All the old concern over property rights and freedom of contract had been swept away with the “progressive” tide. Such measures did nothing to stem the Depression, but they did undermine the Constitution and individual freedom.

Then in 1935, several cases involving federal legislation came to the Court and it struck them down on the grounds that Congress had exceeded its authority. In Schechter Poultry v. US, the Court held that Congress had impermissibly delegated regulatory authority to bureaucrats, and thus the National Industrial Recovery Act was unconstitutional. After that and several other reversals, President Roosevelt was furious. Following his landslide re-election in 1936, he proposed his plan to “pack” the Court with six new justices who would, of course, all be sympathetic to his goals.

Although the court-packing legislation ran into stiff opposition among congressional Democrats and never advanced, it nevertheless had an effect on two members of the Court, Chief Justice Charles Evans Hughes and Justice Owen Roberts, who in 1937 sided with the government in cases such as National Labor Relations Board v. Jones & Laughlin Steel where the issues were no different than in the 1935-36 cases. In Jones & Laughlin, the issue was the legitimacy of the National Labor Relations Act, which trampled upon employer property rights, contractual freedom, and even freedom of speech in its objective of aiding unionization. Constitutional liberties were again sacrificed on the altar of politics, exactly as the Founders had feared.

And then things got even worse.

In 1938, a case came to the Court named United States v. Carolene Products Co. The dispute was over a federal law, the Filled Milk Act, which prohibited the sale of “adulterated” milk products. Carolene had sold a product that blended coconut oil with condensed milk. This was more special interest legislation, the dairy lobby’s seeking to use the government to stifle competition. Would the Court approve?

Yes, but more than that, Chief Justice Stone added a famous footnote stating that the Court would employ different standards of review depending on the type of case. It would presume constitutionality for “mere” business regulations, but would scrutinize cases involving “fundamental rights” or the interests of minority groups. Nothing in the wording of the Constitution indicates that some rights are superior to others, nor that some Americans deserve more protection than others. But the Court had spoken and thereafter, it and other courts would rubber-stamp any federal or state law that regulated business or property, so long as legislators might have had some rational basis for it.

The most egregious example of this judicial mindset came in the 1942 case Wickard v. Filburn. Federal regulations prescribed how much wheat farmers were allowed to grow in pursuit of higher prices. (One of the beliefs of the New Dealers is that higher agricultural prices would somehow restore general prosperity.) An Ohio farmer was penalized for having grown more wheat than he was allowed to. He argued that even if trying to raise the price of wheat were a valid use of federal power, he had consumed all of the wheat on his own farm and therefore no interstate commerce was involved. Since congressional power only extended to interstate commerce, the regulation couldn’t apply to him. But the Court found an ingenious response to crush his right to use his own property as he saw fit: if he hadn’t grown more than his permitted amount of wheat, he might have had to purchase wheat that could have come through interstate commerce, and thus his action affected the price of wheat.

Property rights and freedom of contract had been read out of the Constitution by “progressive” justices who thought they knew which rights were truly important and which ones weren’t.

Could matters get worse? Yes—in the 1950s, we had the Warren Court.

Under Chief Justice Earl Warren, the Court strode much further into judicial supremacy. Warren was noted for caring little about what the law actually said and focusing on what was “fair.” His first big decision was Brown v. Board of Education, declaring “separate but equal” public schools unconstitutional. Among the country’s elites, the outcome was very popular, but many legal scholars who applauded it nevertheless found the legal reasoning weak. Warren and his allies were soon joined by William Brennan, who loved the idea of using the Court to push progressive policy ideas. In the early 1960s, it waded into what had always been regarded as a political question when it declared that state legislatures must be apportioned equally. It also changed criminal procedure, mandating that courts use the exclusionary rule to void any evidence obtained in violation of the defendant’s rights. The Court was now making policy, not just reviewing constitutionally questionable laws, exactly what the Anti-Federalists had feared.

Warren retired in 1969, and President Nixon replaced him with Warren Burger, a judicial conservative who was expected to steer the Court away from activism. Things didn’t work out that way.

One of Burger’s first major decisions was Griggs v. Duke Power (1971) where he expanded the Equal Employment Act to say that business testing that had a “disparate impact” on protected minority groups was illegal. Civil rights advocates were amazed, and said that they didn’t think Burger knew what he had accomplished for them.

Then in 1973, Nixon’s second appointment, Justice Harry Blackmun, authored the decision in Roe v. Wade, where the Court made abortion policy for the entire nation. Again, the result met with favor among elites who had come to see the Court as the conscience of the nation, but the decision was widely denounced by friends and foes alike. Yale law professor John Hart Ely wrote that Roe “was not constitutional law and gives almost no sense of an obligation to try to be.”

Another signal failure of judicial review in recent decades has been the Court’s deferential attitude toward the administrative state, those numerous bureaucracies that effectively govern much of our lives. As noted above, the Court had looked with favor on the agencies since the New Deal, but in the 1984 case Chevron v. Natural Resources Defense Council, it declared that such agencies should be given deference with regard to the scope of their authority. In other words, the bureaucrats were to be presumed correct in their interpretation of their power. The result was mushrooming administrative regulation.

The US certainly is suffering from, as Moreno puts it, “juristocracy.” Too many of the former and present members of the Court think of themselves as the nation’s conscience, but they have a great numerous sins, both of commission and omission, to atone for.

George Leef
George Leef is director of editorial content for the James G. Martin Center for Academic Renewal. He holds a bachelor of arts degree from Carroll College (Waukesha, WI) and a juris doctor from Duke University School of Law. He was a vice president of the John Locke Foundation until 2003.

A regular columnist for Forbes.com, Leef was book review editor of The Freeman, published by the Foundation for Economic Education, from 1996 to 2012. He has published numerous articles in The Freeman, Reason, The Free Market, Cato Journal, The Detroit News, Independent Review, and Regulation. He writes regularly for the National Review’s The Corner blog and for EdWatchDaily.