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Sometime back I was in India at a gold shop. If you want to sell gold, they melt it and check on a spectrophotometer for purity. Thats an added expense and hassle. There were several reports over the last year on Zero Hedge, where they showed the gold bars deposited in NY banks were filled with tungsten.

It wouldn't surprise me.

The Chinese are even making counterfeit "junk silver" now.

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The study of Gold and other safe havens outside the productive economy is in part an inverse study of the US dollar. 

'The dollar isn't backed by ... anything at all'.

The dollar is backed by the 'full faith and credit of the US government', which unfortunately does not contradict the statement above.

Debt halfway into coronavirus is now 27.8 trillion, and will pass 30 trillion instantly at the first act of the new Congress and President. 

Debt service is paid out of income.  In 2018 we had the best income growth in 20 years.  Whether by voters or by vote fraud, the country changed course.  Income growth has been cancelled and reversed.  Other priorities replace it.  Shrinking income doesn't support escalating debt very long.

Default Plan:  The other way you shrink debt in your own currency is inflation.  The devaluing of our currency devalues the debt, but it also devalues our wealth.  People flee for safe haven.

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***'The dollar isn't backed by ... anything at all'.

The dollar is backed by the 'full faith and credit of the US government', which unfortunately does not contradict the statement above.***

crying and laughing out loud

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Money, the Fed, Banking, Dollar, bitcoin, crypto, Gold/Silver, Inflation?
« Reply #1155 on: January 15, 2021, 07:39:50 AM »
Gillian Tett: “What was the best-performing asset class in 2020? If you think ‘tech stocks’ or ‘bitcoin,’ think again. Instead, as the Bridgewater hedge fund recently wrote to its clients, ‘among the more interesting and least recognized outcomes’ of 2020 was that US inflation-linked bonds beat other assets by delivering a 35 per cent return, on a risk-adjusted basis, as investors hedged against inflation risks….(T)he reason why investors have rushed to hedge against inflation is due to a concern that inflation might prove to be a ‘black swan’ event, with a low-probability but high-impact risk.” (via Financial Times)
https://www.ft.com/content/d50304b4-45d3-47d8-b793-4a58a0e9fd59?

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***'The dollar isn't backed by ... anything at all'.

The dollar is backed by the 'full faith and credit of the US government', which unfortunately does not contradict the statement above.***

crying and laughing out loud

"I'll gladly pay you Tuesday, for a hamburger today."

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The institutions are massively buying BTC. see page 14 in Grayscale report

https://grayscale.co/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/Q4-Grayscale%C2%AE-Digital-Asset-Investment-Report.pdf

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Far out 8-)

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The institutions are massively buying BTC. see page 14 in Grayscale report

https://grayscale.co/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/Q4-Grayscale%C2%AE-Digital-Asset-Investment-Report.pdf

What would they be doing if they thought the USD was going to crash and burn?

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As BTC goes up, the FUD will increase.
Recent example IMF Chief Christine Lagarde a convicted criminal casting doubts on BTC.

Here's Dan Held busting FUD
https://www.coindesk.com/podcasts/the-breakdown-with-nlw/breakdown-bitcoin-fud-dan-held

Bitcoin is for criminals
Bitcoin is backed by nothing/has no intrinsic value
Tether manipulation
Energy consumption
Government bans
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Re: Money, the Fed, Banking, Monetary Policy, Fed Over-pumping?
« Reply #1162 on: January 21, 2021, 07:12:58 AM »
Seth Klarman, the founder of hedge fund Baupost Group, has told clients central bank policies and government stimulus have convinced investors that risk “has simply vanished”, leaving the market unable to fulfill its role as a price discovery mechanism. The private letter to investors in his fund, which was seen by the Financial Times, amounts to a damning critique of recent market behavior by one of the world’s foremost value investors. Mr Klarman criticized the Federal Reserve for slashing rates and flooding the financial system with money since the onset of the coronavirus pandemic, arguing that the central bank’s moves have made it difficult to gauge the health of the US economy. “With so much stimulus being deployed, trying to figure out if the economy is in recession is like trying to assess if you had a fever after you just took a large dose of aspirin,” he wrote. “But as with frogs in water that is slowly being heated to a boil, investors are being conditioned not to recognize the danger.”
https://www.ft.com/content/9c3ecb09-c4bd-4066-a462-af496725105d


investors conditioned to not recognize danger?  What could go wrong?
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new acute major bitcoin threat from the Democrats/ Biden people
« Reply #1163 on: January 21, 2021, 07:18:38 AM »
https://markets.businessinsider.com/currencies/news/bitcoin-price-cryptocurrency-should-be-curtailed-terrorism-concerns-yellen-2021-1-1029985692

unless they can get their hand on it to confiscate funds from it they will simply
curtail  cryptos

of course
"f..k " dems as usual
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Gold vs. Treasury Yields
« Reply #1164 on: January 21, 2021, 06:43:58 PM »


https://lawliberty.org/app/uploads/2021/01/DG-Chart-2-1024x791.jpg

The price of gold is not that unpredictable.
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The 10-year TIPS yield explains about 80% of the change in the gold price during the past thirteen years (the r2  of regression of gold against the 10-year TIPS yield is 0.8). That is no surprise, because the two assets have similar functions.  Gold is not a currency (because most governments do not make it legal tender), but it is a sort of shadow currency, a “primitive relic” (Keynes) to which countries must fall back if the value of fiat currency collapses. In effect, gold is an insurance policy against currency collapse. Inflation-indexed Treasuries perform a similar function; if the dollar collapses and inflation rises sharply, they will protect investors. They also offer protection in the case of extreme deflation (because their coupon rise when the Consumer Price Index rises, but does not fall if the Consumer Price Index turns negative).

The close relationship between real interest rates and gold makes clear that the risk to the monetary system has increased drastically as the deficit rose during the past decade and a half.  The decline in real interest rates thus reflects a higher price for hedges against extreme movements in the value of the national currency (as the price of inflation-indexed securities rises, the yield falls). We observe the same pattern in the long-term relationship between the US federal deficit (expressed as a percentage of nominal GDP) and gold. The greater our deficit, the more the world is willing to pay for insurance against the collapse of our currency.
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Krugman on Amanpour
« Reply #1165 on: January 22, 2021, 04:58:38 AM »
(Doug's favorite economist)

on government spending:

World in awash in cash

spend like banchies !!!  Go full steam Joe and the crats ;   :-o

for governments debt means nothing :

https://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2021/01/18/amanpour-krugman-biden-stimulus.cnn

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Re: Krugman on Amanpour, wrong only when his lips (or pen) move
« Reply #1166 on: January 22, 2021, 07:28:22 AM »
(Doug's favorite economist) [sarcasm alert]

"on government spending:
World in awash in cash"
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Then why "borrow" $3-6 Trillion this year (in one country alone) when you are awash in cash.
Washington has taken a significant of all income for our entire lives.  WHAT DID THEY DO WITH IT?

People and businesses are in need now because the government shut their businesses and jobs down.

Left answer:  More Fascism and Socialism.  Because it works so well.  [sarcasm alert]

The Left has 'thought leaders' mostly in academia, intermixed with media, who are not elected officials but wield more real power than the politicians who follow their lead.  Krugman is in that group.  Lawrence tribe, Robert Reich, Gruber - the MIT health guy, Cass Sunstein, Ben Rhodes, etc. These types and many more.  Example:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelcannon/2014/11/30/grubergate-part-2-gruber-admits-obamacare-is-one-giant-deception-from-beginning-to-end/?sh=698c53124db9
Forbes:  Gruber Admits ObamaCare Is One Giant Deception From Beginning To End
 
https://thefederalist.com/2019/12/26/paul-krugman-said-markets-would-never-recover-from-trump-the-dow-is-up-10000-points-since-2016/
Krugman: "Market will never recover."  Reality:  Dow up almost 100% since then. 
https://www.5yearcharts.com/dow-jones-5-years-charts-of-performance/
Nobel Prize winner?  Maybe for past work, but, Dumbf*ck of the year winner more recently.


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BTC may have bottomed...lets see.

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YA:

What do you see as the implications of Yellen's statement?

How do you read the volume numbers?

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Yellen is good for BTC. I have not been listening to her, have lost interest in the Biden admin.

BTC is not ideal for conventional technical analysis. One needs to do on-chain analysis. One of the indicators is the adjusted SOPR. Per Willy Woo, Coins moving between investors per hour (24h MA) no longer carry profit on average. To push SOPR lower, investors would have to be willing to sell at a loss. There are many such indicators, some proprietary.


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Well, that went right over my head.

What is the SOPR?

Can you make your point so simple that even I can understand?

Thank you  :-)

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there are two lines on the graph that mimick one another

but that doesn't mean one can predict movement before it happens
to me it appears it simply follows unpredictable movements



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What implications from the big divergence in January?

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"the big divergence in January?"
« Reply #1173 on: January 26, 2021, 08:33:37 PM »
Yes
January the lines spread apart
I didn't see  the x axis scroll bar
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eventually
the government will do away with coin and paper money and move all commerce onto digital platforms
with digital dollars

that way they can track all commerce
and monitor it

and control us






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Bank of England president on cryptos
« Reply #1174 on: January 27, 2021, 05:29:43 AM »
https://www.coindesk.com/andrew-bailey-fiat-crypto-davos

I think this portends what the governments are going to do

issue government digital fiat money (eventually will ditch paper or metal currencies)
than they will be able to monitor (and control ) all commerce

tax the shit out of it and monitor money flows and in the case of the Deamoncrat Party police opposition

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Well, that went right over my head.

What is the SOPR?

Can you make your point so simple that even I can understand?

Thank you  :-)

On chain analytics is a new way to look at BTC. I let the professionals do it. Here is something defining SOPR (there are a couple of versions of SOPR), but the gist is as follows.
Spent Output Profit Ratio (SOPR)

Dips like we are seeing now are common and expected in bull markets. Full resets pave the way for further growth.  SOPR measures whether coins were on average sold at a profit (SOPR > 1) or at a loss (SOPR <1).


As shown above, when Bitcoin price increases a lot, longer term HODLers tend to sell some coins at a profit. The higher the price gets, the more they sell. This changing hands of coins  increases SOPR and, critically, also increases selling pressure. The rising selling pressure continues until the average Bitcoin transaction is at a loss (SOPR<1). In the previous bull market, when this ratio hit 1, it was the best time to buy as it demonstrates a clean reset of speculative behaviour.

HODL= Bitcoin terminology for HOLD
Please scroll to the right, to see the dip to SOPR of 1.
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Thank you YA for the SOPR explanation.

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"It's almost like there are different rules for different people!"

big competition between US Wall Street and China's CCP

who can buy more US politicians?

I think China is catching up to us in that department too.


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GBTC looks to be bouncing off the 50 day.

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Biden induced crash in progress?
« Reply #1180 on: January 29, 2021, 10:03:00 AM »
n/a

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Cryptocurrency Platforms Struggle With Demand From WallStreetBets Fervor
Coinbase’s website went down on a day of intense trading in cryptocurrencies

An engineer at the Evobits crypto farm in Cluj-Napoca, Romania, this month.
PHOTO: AKOS STILLER/BLOOMBERG NEWS
By Caitlin Ostroff
Jan. 29, 2021 2:20 pm ET


A swell of cryptocurrency trading coincided with a major bitcoin exchange outage and led to curbs on other platforms, mirroring the difficulties traditional brokers have had with a frenzy of stock-market activity.

Digital-currency exchange website Coinbase Global Inc. said it was investigating an outage Friday that prevented customers from trading on its web and mobile apps. Another exchange, Bittrex Global GmbH, said an increase in traffic created technical problems on its platform.

Coinbase later said that trading was back up and that it was monitoring for further issues. A spokesperson for Coinbase said that a sharp uptick in trading caused the technical issues that disrupted trading. Bittrex declined to comment.


Bitcoin rallied 4.8% Friday, with one bitcoin worth $34,436. The most popular cryptocurrency has risen sharply over the past year, winning converts from investors worried that central banks and governments, in their efforts to counter the economic effects of the coronavirus, risk devaluing fiat currencies.

Robinhood Markets Inc., which is under fire for suspending trading of popular stocks, also curbed activity in its cryptocurrency platform. Robinhood said it temporarily disabled instant deposits for cryptocurrency purchases citing extraordinary market conditions, according to its website.

A Robinhood spokeswoman said that customers can still use funds that have already been received by Robinhood from their bank accounts to buy cryptocurrencies.


Wall Street is in an uproar over GameStop shares this week, after members of Reddit’s popular WallStreetBets forum encouraged bets on the video game retailer. WSJ explains how options trading is driving the action and what’s at stake.
The Coinbase outage comes at a delicate time. The company said this week it planned to go public through a direct stock listing. Coinbase was started in 2012 and is the biggest exchange for cryptocurrency in the U.S. The San Francisco-based company was recently valued at around $8 billion and has more users than Charles Schwab Corp.’s platform.

Wall Street struggled to cope with the crescendo of activity in financial markets this week. Several retail brokerages dealt with outages and high-speed traders reported trading glitches.

For cryptocurrency exchanges, outages aren’t anything new. The platforms tend to be lightly regulated, dominated by retail investors, and prone to breakdowns when activity spikes.

Heightened activity in cryptocurrencies Friday came as popular online brokerages restricted trading in highly traded stocks including GameStop Corp. and AMC Entertainment Holdings Inc. on Thursday. They were reacting to huge volumes of trading spurred on by investors who congregate in online platforms such as Reddit’s WallStreetBets forum.

Some digital-currency proponents think investors unable to trade their favorite stocks moved to crypto instead.

“What happened this week with GameStop and other highly volatile momentum-traded stocks—these platforms restricting trading—has driven people to trade other assets,” said Meltem Demirors, chief strategy officer at London-based asset management firm CoinShares. “It avoids many of the issues we’ve seen in legacy financial markets and so we’ve seen retail investors shift.”

One actively traded cryptocurrency Friday was Dogecoin, which was created in 2013 to poke fun at the burgeoning cryptocurrency industry. It was named after a popular internet meme about a dog who couldn’t spell.

Dogecoin was up 250% by 11:30 a.m. ET Friday, according to CoinDesk. By 4:45 p.m. it had slid back to be up 125%.

Dogecoin features an image of the doge meme mascot, a Shiba Inu dog that has been digitally altered to appear on everything from astronauts to Twinkies. Dogecoin has also become a popular topic on Reddit’s WallStreetBets and SatoshiStreetBets due to its cheap cost relative to bitcoin.

Sparking a sudden interest in the coin, Tesla CEO Elon Musk tweeted a fake magazine cover that read “DOGUE” on Thursday. After its rise, one Dogecoin was worth $0.05 on Friday. All the Dogecoins in circulation are currently worth $7 billion, according to CoinDesk.

Mr. Musk also updated his Twitter bio page to say “#bitcoin.” That came after Bridgewater Associates founder Ray Dalio called bitcoin “one hell of an invention” in a letter published on Thursday.
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India to ban BTC?
« Reply #1182 on: January 30, 2021, 06:07:28 PM »

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I don't recall the total est. amount of Black Market in India
« Reply #1183 on: January 30, 2021, 07:22:41 PM »
 but it quite large

 wouldn't surprise me if the pay in bribes then they do taxes :-P

So yeah Modi would be pissed the government is not getting theirs I would think:


https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/info-tech/india-lost-185-b-due-to-digital-blackmarkets/article26439915.ece

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India has tried banning crypto once, the Supreme Court forced them to remove restrictions. China has banned BTC several times, even though ironically most of the BTC mining is done in China.
Bans dont work.

India plans to roll out its own CBDC. The Indian legislation talks about banning private currencies and will allow exceptions so that technological innovations may continue.
I would imagine BTC will likely get an exemption, its hard to put the BTC CEO in jail.

Label this as FUD. 99 % of Altcoins will not survive.

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So for my simple Boomer Roadkill mind,

Holding GBTC for the long play is still a good idea?

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Appears that Michael Burry was behind the GameStop debacle.

He bought up over 5% stake in the company. Forced the company to buyback it's shares using around 200 million dollars. The buyback caused shorted stock to go over 100% of available stocks in the market.

Then he created the news cycle that lead to threads about undervalued stock and hedge funds shorting over 100% of the company's stock. Buying the stocks at $2-4 per share, he made perhaps billions in the trades.

Burry was the one who also led to the issuance of Credit Default Swaps (CDS) on Mortgage Backed Securities. He noticed the problems with MBS and recognized that at some point, they would begin to fail and default. Convinced Deutsche Bank to issue CDS in 2005 then all the banks started doing it thinking it was easy money to be made.

It was easy money, at least for Burry, when the loans began to fail. Reportedly made over $1b on CDS.
PPulatie

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Re: Money, Dollar, bitcoin, crypto, Gold/Silver
« Reply #1187 on: January 31, 2021, 09:58:29 AM »
From earlier bitcoin explanation, SOPR = 1:

"clean reset of speculative behaviour"
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A clean reset of speculative behavior to me might be Bitcoin = zero.   :wink:

No bitcoin offense intended.  I have jealousy for those who saw the rise coming.
Gold is speculative too.    https://goldprice.org/gold-price-history.html
This is money invested outside the (un)productive economy. 

I'm looking for a safe place to bet against the Dem economy too.  Ruling these out, I'm not finding much.
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".I'm looking for a safe place to bet against the Dem economy too.  Ruling these out, I'm not finding much."

A very wise man recently told me ammunition is a good investment

so when Susan Rice and the rest of the mob ban guns and ammo

prices should skyrocket - at least in black market.   8-)

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If you can find ammo to buy these days...

".I'm looking for a safe place to bet against the Dem economy too.  Ruling these out, I'm not finding much."

A very wise man recently told me ammunition is a good investment

so when Susan Rice and the rest of the mob ban guns and ammo

prices should skyrocket - at least in black market.   8-)

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So for my simple Boomer Roadkill mind,

Holding GBTC for the long play is still a good idea?

GBTC is buying a lot of BTC daily (much more than the daily mined BTC=900/day).  The name of the game is to accumulate and hold BTC, Paypal is doing so, as well as many companies are putting it on their balance sheets instead of cash. So GBTC will be a very valuable fund someday.

The problem with GBTC in my mind is, it goes against the BTC ethos of sovereignity and self reliance. You never really own your BTC. However, owning BTC is not for everyone. It does require some basic technical expertise. For the average person, a BTC ETF (not yet available) or GBTC gives you the investment returns of BTC.  But if the SHTF, having some of your own BTC will prove to be a boon. Think of BTC as monetary insurance, that you will be fine if the $ depreciates away. Some think inflation is around 2 % in the USA, Michael Saylor (CEO Microstrategy) says the actual rate is like 15 % because of all the money printing. A 15 % inflation rate will depreciate your cash pretty quickly. That is the reason tangible assets are rising (art, houses, stocks etc).

There is a clear progression in the mindset of BTC holders, buying GBTC--->buying BTC from exchange and keeping BTC on exchange--->self storage in hardware wallet--->running a BTC node. It is a fascinating world. Anyone thinking of buying BTC needs to be ready for extreme volatility and a minimum 5 year time horizon (2025 end of year), possibly holding 10 years or even think of intergenerational wealth transfer. Due to the high price of BTC, good returns will require long holding periods. Everyone thinks they are late to the BTC party. In 5-10 years when BTC is a million, 34K will sound reasonable.

As BTC rises in fiat currencies, govts will try to ban it, create FUD, so one needs to be convinced about its merits and be able to hold it through thick or thin. Only invest what you are willing to lose with no impact on your retirement. The way to gain confidence is to read about it.

Owning GBTC=relying on the police, which is a good option for most
When SHTF, having a gun=owning BTC

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Rigged
« Reply #1192 on: January 31, 2021, 06:24:26 PM »
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/yes-virginia-system-clearly-rigged

Fake justice system. Fake elections. Fake economy.

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Here are the BTC outflows from exchanges, ie going to Hodlers (institutional wallets or individuals). Very bullish. When inflows increase to exchanges, it is bearish and most likely it is to sell.

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WSJ: Pump and dump fraud about to be unravelled?
« Reply #1195 on: February 01, 2021, 05:15:22 AM »


To figure out if you’re in a bubble, you need to find the source of the hot air. Obvious for GameStop, but for bitcoin, not so much.

In July 2018, we wrote about the cryptocurrency company Tether, which issues tokens called tethers that trade under the symbol USDT and should be valued at $1—making the currency a “stablecoin.” Tether’s creators might have manipulated bitcoin, a University of Texas paper suggests, by issuing tokens willy-nilly unbacked by real dollars and then buying bitcoin to jack up its price. (The company claims the research is flawed.)

At the time, Tether’s total value was some $2.7 billion, and its website claimed: “Every tether is always backed 1-to-1 by traditional currency held in our reserves.” So somewhere there should have been $2.7 billion in real money—that’s how a stablecoin is supposed to work. In November 2018, New York state Attorney General Letitia James invoked the Martin Act to begin an investigation into iFinex, which owns Tether and the Bitfinex cryptocurrency exchange, “in connection with ongoing activities that may have defrauded New York investors.” The company has disputed the attorney general’s claims, denied it misled customers, and said it will fight any action. An appellate court last year rejected its challenge to the probe.

Bitcoin peaked at the end of 2017 at $19,000 and over the next year collapsed to $3,200. Well—they’re baaack! On Friday Elon Musk was the latest to pump Bitcoin, which briefly reached almost $38,000. And there are now some $26.4 billion of USDT tokens, $18 billion of which were created since March 2020. Why the increase? No one has a good explanation.


All that glitters is not gold. In 2019 Tether subtly updated its claim to say reserves “may include other assets and receivables from loans made by Tether to third parties.” Tether has even admitted it only has 74% of the cash or cash equivalents to back its stablecoin. Hmmm. Basically unbacked.


In October 2019, a separate lawsuit was filed against Bitfinex claiming the exchange’s alleged market manipulation “likely surpasses $1.4 trillion,” which Bitfinex denies. Yes, that’s trillion with a T. Bahamas-based Deltec Bank & Trust, where Tether has an account, recently claimed “every tether is backed by a reserve and their reserve is more than what is in circulation.” OK, but it turns out “reserves” may include an $850 million loan to Bitfinex. Is that the hot air? Oh, and reserves may include bitcoin too. Audit, anyone?

Pay no mind: “Momo” momentum investors dived in anyway. Bitcoin ran from $7,000 in January 2020 to almost $42,000 this Jan. 8. But the bitcoin bulls and bears are brawling. On Medium a few weeks ago, a poster named Crypto Anonymous (for what it’s worth, know your customer) did some digging and found that as much as two-thirds of bitcoin buys on any given day were purchased with tether, though crypto bulls insist that Chinese crypto investors use tether as a way to buy bitcoin. Try verifying that! The chart of bitcoin vs. tether issuance sure looks correlated, but a study published at the Center for Economic and Policy Research found no correlation. And I should note that wallet provider Coinbase, the largest holder of Bitcoin, says it “does not support USDT.” Do they know something?


Meanwhile, more than two years later, the New York attorney general’s office may get the documents it needs. I hope that includes an audit of Tether looking for the now $24.5 billion in cash, or even $19 billion if it’s 74% backed. I doubt all that cash exists. The attorney general claimed in a press release that some fishy money, maybe $850 million now part of Tether’s reserves, was taken from Tether to cover losses at Bitfinex. Yikes.

I contacted the attorney general’s office asking for the status of the investigation and what information it has received. I was pointed to the original filing for the scope of the investigation. It includes an accounting of all of Tether’s transactions. On Jan. 19, a letter from iFinex’s counsel said it had “largely completed the document production” and would “contact the Court in approximately 30 days” with a status update. So we’ll know something soon.

Meanwhile, lo and behold, around the same time as that letter, Tether temporarily stopped creating any more currency. That might explain bitcoin’s quick mid-January price drop from $42,000 to under $30,000. If fraud is uncovered, look out below.

Normally I wouldn’t care. Bitcoin is nothing, it’s vapor, a concept of an idea. Transactions using bitcoin are few and far between. It’s not a store of value—anything that drops 30% in a week can’t play that role. But we get Bloomberg Wealth stories saying: “Newbie Bitcoin investors tell us what inspired them to buy at record prices.” A lot of folks who can’t afford it may get hurt badly. Robinhood curbed some crypto purchases on Friday.

So all crypto eyes are on mid-February. The power of the subpoena is strong. I have no insight into what New York’s attorney general will find. She might close the investigation and go on her merry way because there’s no crime, or uncover a fraud that could make Bernie Madoff look like he was stealing from a lemonade stand. We know what happens to bubbles when the hot air runs out.

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Re: Rigged
« Reply #1196 on: February 01, 2021, 08:41:30 AM »
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/yes-virginia-system-clearly-rigged

Fake justice system. Fake elections. Fake economy.

Good story.  It's rigged when the government intervenes and when people collude behind closed doors. Otherwise let these players, large and small, place their bets and make and lose money wherever it falls.  Unless you screw with it, it's called a market, hopefully a free market.

Assume Gamestop, whoever they are, was overvalued at the start of this. Anyone who buys it above value wants and deserves to lose money if they are caught holding when the music stops.

Shutting down trading is anti-market.

Bailouts are anti-market.

Collusion is anti-free market.

Free market does not mean no rules.  Free market means government enforces level playing field, does not take sides.

Maybe something good will come out of this.

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« Reply #1197 on: February 01, 2021, 10:58:15 AM »
Robinhood, E*Trade, Interactive Brokers and others restricted trading in GameStop and other names last week after GameStop surged to $483 intraday—a 10,000% increase since August for a historically brick-and-mortar company with declining revenues and a now-downloadable product. The brokers came in for swift, intense—and misguided—criticism.

As with everything else, social media took an extraordinarily complex situation—involving technical aspects of the financial markets, unclear legal standards, and public and private sector actors with valid but differing agendas—and produced a simple morality tale with the online brokers as the evil empire crushing plucky rebels like “u/-_Han-Yolo_-” to protect the hedge-fund Jabba the Hutts who shorted GameStop. Redditors showered Robinhood with vitriol and one-star reviews.

Political and social-media opportunists jumped in. Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez deemed GameStop trading restrictions “unacceptable” and demanded an investigation. Rep. Rashida Tlaib of the Financial Services Committee accused Robinhood of “stealing millions of dollars from their users.” Sen. Ted Cruz took to Twitter to “fully agree” with AOC: “Let the people trade.” Elon Musk “absolutely” agreed that Robinhood should be investigated, and called for short selling to be banned as “a scam.” Dave Portnoy, Barstool Sports founder and frozen-pizza reviewer, said to Robinhood executives: “You deserve to be behind bars.”

It must be unsettling when most of the internet wants your head in a basket, but Robinhood and the other brokers are in a no-win situation. Brokers are financially liable to the “clearinghouses” that clear and settle U.S. stocks and options, whether or not the clients can pay for their losing trades (so that those clearinghouses can pay the winners on the other side when the trade settles one or two days later).

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When clients trade, especially on margin, they use the broker’s money to play. Imagine a client buys 100 shares of GameStop for $400 a share, using $20,000 of his own money and borrowing $20,000 from Robinhood. If the stock drops from $400 to $120 (as it did on Jan. 28), the client’s position may be sold for $12,000 due to the margin violation, leaving Robinhood trying to collect an unsecured $8,000 debt from “u/Thicc_Ladies_PM_Me.” Good luck. Multiply this by hundreds or thousands of similar clients. Option trading is worse because the leverage is much greater.


The broker’s risk is asymmetrical: If half its clients are winning big by buying during a short squeeze, while its short clients are suffering losses they can’t pay, the broker can’t offset these gains and losses, but must pay the winning clients while possibly eating the losing trades. It is rare, but brokers go bankrupt during market events like this.

Brokers therefore are subject to strict financial requirements, including that they maintain large security deposits at the clearinghouses. When risk rises, clearinghouses raise their requirements, even intraday. On Jan. 28, when GameStop dropped from $483 to $112, the clearinghouse DTCC raised requirements by an aggregate $7.5 billion. Brokers had to post that money to DTCC whether or not their clients had it.

Brokers facing liquidity crunches have two options: raise capital (which Robinhood apparently did) or reduce clients’ risky trading. This is a more plausible explanation for their actions last week than any desire to protect hedge funds. Brokers love their clients and want them to flourish. But they don’t want to go bankrupt.

The second factor possibly weighing on brokers’ minds is the prospect of eye-watering fines if clients engage in manipulative activity. Whereas social-media platforms are protected from liability for miscreant users, online brokerage platforms face opposite rules. Under federal anti-money-laundering regulations, firms must conduct “reasonable surveillance” for client fraud or criminality. The SEC and other regulators have fined banks and brokers (including E*Trade, Interactive and Schwab) hundreds of millions in total over recent years for failing to detect and prevent client misbehavior. While the legal standard is allegedly negligence (“reasonable surveillance”), regulators routinely employ 20/20 hindsight to second-guess broker due diligence of their clients after the fact, effectively imposing strict liability. To the regulators, fraudulent schemes are always perfectly obvious in retrospect.

Among client high jinks that brokers are to prevent is market manipulation. But to quote David St. Hubbins of Spinal Tap: “It’s such a fine line between stupid and clever, isn’t it?” So it is with market manipulation, which has no precise definition. Worse for brokers, clients don’t have to be found guilty of manipulation for the broker to be fined. “Potentially” suspicious activity is enough to put the broker in the soup.


Bubbles like GameStop are terrible for markets. When they inevitably burst, it is not only the speculators who get covered in goo, but the market itself and the retirees and publicly traded businesses that rely on it. The U.S. stock market is like an online dating site. If too many profiles are fake, the real users will go away. Regulators like Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen know this. They want this GameStop nonsense to stop, and soon.

Mr. Battan was general counsel of Interactive Brokers, 1998-2020, and holds stock in the company. He has also served as a senior counsel in the Division of Enforcement at the Securities and Exchange Commission and chief counsel of the Division of Trading and Markets at the Commodity Futures Trading Commission.

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one forecast for bitcoin for 2021
« Reply #1198 on: February 03, 2021, 04:46:10 PM »
https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/364547

ethereum above all time high at 1600 +


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Re: one forecast for bitcoin for 2021
« Reply #1199 on: February 04, 2021, 06:41:16 AM »
https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/364547

ethereum above all time high at 1600 +

"3.7 million BTCs are already lost or irrecoverable. One analyst estimates that 1,500 BTCs are lost every day. What lost means is that they are in unrecoverable wallets. We know where they are on the blockchain but no one can get to them for 1 of 2 reasons. The first is that they are really lost due to password protection and/or lost devices. Those coins will never come back to the market"

   - Sounds like something I would do. Not exactly no risk of loss. That's $150 Billion in losses right there.