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Tillerson?!?
« Reply #100 on: December 10, 2016, 07:06:06 PM »
My initial reaction is that this would be a REALLY bad choice.  Apart from questions about him as an individual, the trail of coincidences about Trump-Putin, questions about Russian meddling in the US election, and now a man who was against sanctions against Russia for invading the Ukraine who will be looking to continue and expand the business of his lifelong employer with Russia?!?  Any raproachment (sp?) with Russia would be seen as billionaire corruption at the expense of our NATO allies and the Ukraine.   

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/10/us/politics/rex-tillerson-secretary-of-state-trump.html?emc=edit_na_20161210&nlid=49641193&ref=cta

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Re: The Trump Transition/Administration
« Reply #101 on: December 10, 2016, 07:38:02 PM »
Is it true the Bolton is #2 at State?

I am glad that Tillerson is at least a civilian.  I sort of though we have enough generals in there  already.
With regards to his connections to Russia you bring up valid concerns.  It seems all his billionaire picks have connections that can be questioned.

We are on new ground here.  Certainly fodder for the LEFT.  I am glad it is not Romney. 

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Re: The Trump Transition/Administration
« Reply #102 on: December 10, 2016, 08:19:35 PM »
AFAiK Tillerson is not confirmed as the choice yet.

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This would sound far too fg plausible if the Exxon guy is the pick
« Reply #103 on: December 11, 2016, 08:24:28 PM »


"In case you haven't connected the news dots... Putin owns the largest oil company in Russia. He made a 500 Billion dollar deal with the CEO of Exxon Mobil. Obama put sanctions in place which stopped that deal. Russia then hacked into our government in order to get Trump elected. When the CIA told Congress this in September (James Comey was also in that meeting), Mitch McConnell refused to tell the American people, blackmailing Obama saying he would frame it as playing partisan politics during the election. Comey released the infamous no-information letter. Mitch McConnell's wife was picked for Trump's cabinet. The CEO of Exxon is now the frontrunner for Secretary of State.

"The question is whether the Republican dominated House and Senate will put as much effort into uncovering all the connections as they did Hillary's email investigations. Thanks Lulani Mae"

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Re: The Trump Transition/Administration
« Reply #104 on: December 12, 2016, 04:17:29 AM »
Just one question.  Why isn't this all good for globalization?

Deals with our enemy Communist China is touted as great because it binds us into common interests.  It increases our "conversations".  But suddenly this is some sort of threat.

Where and what are the distinctions?

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Re: The Trump Transition/Administration
« Reply #105 on: December 12, 2016, 11:43:35 AM »
Just one question.  Why isn't this all good for globalization?

Deals with our enemy Communist China is touted as great because it binds us into common interests.  It increases our "conversations".  But suddenly this is some sort of threat.

Where and what are the distinctions?

Suddenly the left has gone all neo-McCarthy-ist. I guess the 80's finally called them.

I am so old, I can remember when the left rolled their eyes at election tampering.

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Tillerson
« Reply #107 on: December 14, 2016, 08:40:29 AM »
A surprising list of endorsements for Tillerson from serious people:  Condaleeza Rice, Jim Baker, Sec Def under Bush and Obama Robert Gates, VP Cheney, and more.

Some interesting tidbits in this:

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/442999/donald-trump-rex-tillerson-secretary-state-philosophy-unknown?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Daily%20Trending%20Email%20Reoccurring-%20Monday%20to%20Thursday%202016-12-13&utm_term=NR5PM%20Actives

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Sober Analysis by Thomas Sowell...
« Reply #108 on: December 14, 2016, 09:01:41 AM »
As always, Sowell makes a calm assessment of the situation we face:

http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/265136/where-are-we-thomas-sowell

"You have enemies?  Good.  That means that you have stood up for something, sometime in your life." - Winston Churchill.

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Re: Trump Transition/Administration Is Tillerson Trump's first liberal pick?
« Reply #109 on: December 16, 2016, 11:17:59 AM »
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/12/tillersons_assault_on_scouting.html
Gays in Scouts, global warming, what else?

"Exxon shifted from its public position of doubting climate change to declaring that there is 'no question' that human activity was the source of carbon dioxide emissions contributing to the phenomenon."

http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/310647-exxon-shifted-on-climate-change-under-trump-pick

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Re: The Trump Transition/Administration
« Reply #110 on: December 16, 2016, 06:07:51 PM »
Also worth noting in that regard is that he was the head of the Boy Scouts and led them to change their policy on gay scout leaders.


It bothers me greatly that Tillerson tried to prevent/get an exemption from the sanctions against Russia for the invasion of Ukraine; patriotism should have trumped.

Obama has left a seriously weak hand for the US to Trump.  Trump's intentions regarding Russia are unclear to me.  Flynn in his "Field of Fight" book takes a hard line and I suspect Mattis is no softy, but an interesting case can be made that in the new Tri-Polar world in which we find ourselves, the US is in no position to have to deal with both Russia and China at the same time (witness events today in the South China Sea) AND Islamic Fascism, AND Iran, AND North Korea. 

Maybe he has Tillerson as good cop and Matthis/Flynn for bad cop?


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Priebus flexes muscle in Trump Tower
« Reply #111 on: December 19, 2016, 12:55:25 PM »
"... Priebus’s proximity to Trump has given many Republicans on Capitol Hill and around Washington reassurances as an unpredictable political newcomer prepares to be sworn in as commander in chief."

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/310827-priebus-flexes-muscle-in-trump-tower

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Re: Priebus flexes muscle in Trump Tower
« Reply #112 on: December 19, 2016, 06:26:00 PM »
"... Priebus’s proximity to Trump has given many Republicans on Capitol Hill and around Washington reassurances as an unpredictable political newcomer prepares to be sworn in as commander in chief."

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/310827-priebus-flexes-muscle-in-trump-tower

 "unpredictable political newcomer prepares to be sworn in as commander in chief" **How was Obama described in 2008?


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Re: Priebus flexes muscle in Trump Tower
« Reply #114 on: December 20, 2016, 01:06:34 PM »
"... Priebus’s proximity to Trump has given many Republicans on Capitol Hill and around Washington reassurances as an unpredictable political newcomer prepares to be sworn in as commander in chief."

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/310827-priebus-flexes-muscle-in-trump-tower

 "unpredictable political newcomer prepares to be sworn in as commander in chief" **How was Obama described in 2008?


I believe as "Senator."

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Re: Priebus flexes muscle in Trump Tower
« Reply #117 on: December 20, 2016, 05:32:16 PM »
"... Priebus’s proximity to Trump has given many Republicans on Capitol Hill and around Washington reassurances as an unpredictable political newcomer prepares to be sworn in as commander in chief."

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/310827-priebus-flexes-muscle-in-trump-tower

 "unpredictable political newcomer prepares to be sworn in as commander in chief" **How was Obama described in 2008?


I believe as "Senator."

 :roll:

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POTH: Tillerson and Igor I. Sechin, the head of Rosneft,
« Reply #120 on: December 22, 2016, 07:09:51 AM »
MOSCOW — It’s June 2014. War is underway in eastern Ukraine, and Russia has recently annexed Crimea. Western countries are introducing sanctions against Russian companies and the people in President Vladimir V. Putin’s inner circle. It seems that Russia will soon be completely isolated from the rest of the world.

But the 21st World Petroleum Congress is taking place in Moscow. The atmosphere at the Crocus Expo International Exhibition Center, where the congress is being held, is decidedly nonconfrontational. On a stage, two men in suits hold an amicable conversation, addressing each other as “my friend.” The men are captains of the global petroleum industry: Rex W. Tillerson, the chief executive of Exxon Mobil, and Igor I. Sechin, the head of Rosneft, Russia’s state oil company, and one of Mr. Putin’s longtime allies.

Russians rejoiced earlier this month when President-elect Donald J. Trump announced that he would nominate Mr. Tillerson as his secretary of state. If he is confirmed, it will not just be the Kremlin that benefits, but Mr. Tillerson’s “friend” Mr. Sechin in particular.

The agency Mr. Tillerson has been nominated to lead is known in Russia as “GosDep.” The word, which translates to something like “StateDep,” entered the Russian language long ago, an abbreviation in the Soviet tradition of shortening long titles for government departments. But it’s more than just a clever nickname: GosDep is a term from Russia’s internal politics, one that evokes the Kremlin’s eternal enemy.
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The Putin era has unfolded to the accompaniment of anti-authoritarian revolutions in Eastern Europe and the Middle East: From Ukraine to Libya, and from Serbia to Tunisia, seemingly stable governments collapsed before Mr. Putin’s eyes. Among the Russian elite, a consensus formed long ago that the people of those countries were, of course, supported by outside forces; revolutions are planned in GosDep.

For more than 15 years, the Kremlin has wondered: Would Russia be GosDep’s next target? Russian pro-government activists and news media made note of any contact between Russian opposition figures and the United States Embassy in Moscow. Government officials and Kremlin-controlled news media often claimed that the West was behind any anti-Putin protests. Hillary Clinton, the former head of GosDep, was blamed for demonstrations against the rigged parliamentary elections of 2011.

But what would happen if a friend of the Kremlin were to become the leader of GosDep? The person best able to answer this question is the man who has cut deals with Mr. Tillerson and appeared onstage with him at the World Petroleum Congress in June 2014.
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Mr. Sechin is not just the chief executive of Rosneft, he is also one of the heroes of contemporary Russian politics. He is believed to have served as a K.G.B. agent in Africa and had no real experience in the business world until he was over 40. He didn’t come to lead the state oil company because of his business acumen; he earned his position through his loyalty to Mr. Putin.

After the collapse of the Soviet Union, Mr. Sechin aligned himself with Mr. Putin, another former K.G.B. officer, as he began consolidating power in post-Soviet politics. Everywhere Mr. Putin went, Mr. Sechin was by his side as a trusted aide and adviser.

In 2003, Russian authorities arrested Mikhail Khodorkovsky, the owner of Yukos, a huge oil company. At the time, Mr. Sechin was working as Mr. Putin’s deputy chief of staff, and though he had no formal judicial or investigatory authority, Mr. Khodorkovsky accused him of initiating his arrest — and the campaign that followed to nationalize Yukos. It’s impossible to know, but it seems likely. Following Mr. Khodorkovsky’s arrest, Rosneft absorbed Yukos’s assets. In 2004, Mr. Sechin was appointed to head Rosneft’s board.

Mr. Sechin isn’t just a businessman, though. He’s an influential political figure and a crucial Putin ally who has demonstrated his power. The arrest last month of Aleksei Ulyukayev, the minister of economic development, on charges of bribery was widely viewed as an act of revenge by Mr. Sechin. With the arrest, the first of an active government minister in post-Soviet Russia, he again confirmed his image as the most sinister man in the president’s inner circle.

Earlier this year, Mr. Sechin’s expansion was so aggressive that it seemed plausible that Mr. Putin himself would get tired of him, and would try to rid himself of such an odious comrade in arms.

Now Mr. Sechin has nothing to fear. A gift has arrived from across the ocean. This man, whose international experience up to this point has been limited to his friendship with Hugo Chávez, the deceased president of Venezuela, has an exclusive international trump card that even Foreign Minister Sergey V. Lavrov lacks.

Mr. Sechin’s friend will head GosDep, against which Mr. Putin’s entire domestic policy has been directed. It’s a stunning boon for the Kremlin and a crushing blow to everyone in Russia who has counted on the State Department to maintain anti-Putin positions, however restrained they might be.

Even for Mr. Putin, the good fortune that Mr. Trump’s election has brought is less obvious than what it has done for the man who has been first his aide and then his deputy on matters of petroleum — a man who has suddenly become an influential player not only in Russia, but also in world politics.

Oleg Kashin is the author of “Fardwor, Russia! A Fantastical Tale of Life Under Putin.” This essay was translated by Carol Apollonio from the Russian.

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Re: Cheney helping Tillerson
« Reply #122 on: December 22, 2016, 06:42:26 PM »

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Re: The Trump Transition/Administration
« Reply #123 on: December 24, 2016, 11:00:20 AM »
The author does have a point .  Trump is not the President.  He is the President elect.  He should wait till 1/20 to conduct foreign policy:

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/12/trump-obama-israel-settlements-security-council/511637/


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Re: The Trump Transition/Administration
« Reply #124 on: December 24, 2016, 02:11:45 PM »
The author does have a point .  Trump is not the President.  He is the President elect.  He should wait till 1/20 to conduct foreign policy.

And vice a versa. President Obama should not be taking actions pretending to govern this country after the inauguration,  Lame weasel.  Good riddance.

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Larry on Trump's team
« Reply #126 on: December 25, 2016, 04:05:16 AM »
He has 2 specialties not mutually exclusive :

1)  tax cuts
2)  "growth"

and perhaps a few other words in his political vocabulary.  Actually I like him a lot:

http://www.newsmax.com/Finance/LarryKudlow/donald-trump-tax-reform-economy/2016/12/23/id/765440/

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IMHO not a good sign
« Reply #127 on: January 01, 2017, 08:20:35 AM »
#1 what is his daughter doing shaping tax policy
#2 why are we social engineering tax policy heresd
#3 child care tax deductible? 

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/01/politics/marsha-blackburn-child-care-ivanka-trump-cnntv/index.html

My answer - get rid of the loopholes, the deductions, apply taxes EQUALLY to everyone and cut the damn rates.  What is so hard?




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NRO: I guess we are not going to make a fuss about that
« Reply #128 on: January 04, 2017, 08:50:04 AM »
I Guess We’re Just Not Going to Make a Fuss About That!

Remember throughout the summer when Republicans had great fun counting the number of days it had been since Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton had held a press conference?

The Republican National Committee had fun pointing this out, again and again. Donald Trump had fun pointing this out.  Townhall. IJR. Yup, I noted it, too. When the networks didn’t make a fuss, Newsbusters called them out on it.

President-elect Trump hasn’t held a press conference since before the election – since July 27, in fact. You don’t see many Republicans complaining about it, though. I guess he’s “our” guy now, so we’re just not going to make a fuss about that.

Yesterday his office announced a press conference for January 11.  At this press conference, Trump is expected to give an update on how his separation from his vast personal financial empire is progressing. On November 30, he tweeted, “legal documents are being crafted which take me completely out of business operations. The Presidency is a far more important task!”

Good. Republicans spent a lot of time in the past few years arguing that the vast financial donations to the Clinton Foundation from private donors and foreign countries represented a massive conflict of interest. We wanted to cross-check every massive donation against every decision Clinton had made as secretary of state – and we found plenty of reasons to be suspicious.

But you haven’t heard many Republicans demanding a full separation of President Trump from the Trump businesses. You really haven’t heard any complaining about the Kuwaiti, Bahraini, and Azerbaijani embassies booking events at Trump’s new Washington hotel, and that backdoor way of a foreign government putting money into Trump’s pocket. I guess Kuwaiti money is only bothersome when it ends up at the Clinton Foundation.  I guess he’s “our” guy now, so we’re just not going to make a fuss about that.

After promising to release his tax returns several times as a candidate, and then not doing so, the president-elect may not file any more financial disclosures than legally required:  The president-elect is not required to file the annual disclosure until 2018, but the past several presidents have filed in the spring after their inaugurations and then every year in office from then on, as a show of openness. Trump’s transition team did not respond to inquiries about whether he plans to follow that example.

Republicans would have been fine with that kind of a delay from Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, or Joe Biden, right? Those financial disclosure forms were key to showcasing the “pay-for-play” allegations at the Clinton Foundation.  But I guess he’s “our” guy now, so we’re just not going to make a fuss about that.

Back during the campaign, I said a temporary embrace of Julian Assange was dangerous for Republicans. I pointed out Assange’s deeply anti-American ideology and his exposure of Afghan informers to the U.S. military. Silly me for thinking the embrace would be temporary. Kellyanne Conway says “we should pay significant attention” to what Assange says, and Sarah Palin is publicly apologizing to him.

I guess he’s “our” guy now, too, so we’re just not going to make a fuss about that.

There must have been some memo I didn’t get, announcing that Republicans don’t care about press conferences, tax returns, payments from foreign governments, financial disclosure, or Julian Assange leaking classified information anymore. Or some revision emphasizing that we only care about these things when Democrats are involved.

As noted yesterday, Mary Barra is the CEO and longtime high-ranking executive of General Motors, the taxpayer-saved company once reviled by conservatives as “Government Motors.” She was saluted at the State of the Union by President Obama and in March, Clinton campaign chair John Podesta sent the candidate a "first cut of people to consider for VP”, a list of 39 names that included Barra.  Barra’s on Trump’s economic advisory panel now.
I guess she’s “our” gal now, so we’re just not going to make a fuss about that, either.

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Monica Crowley
« Reply #129 on: January 07, 2017, 06:23:56 PM »

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Noonan's advice for the inaugeral
« Reply #130 on: January 09, 2017, 09:57:49 AM »

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Re: The Trump Transition/Administration
« Reply #132 on: January 09, 2017, 10:53:38 AM »
Wrong thread.  Please post in US-China thread instead.

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Big WSJ article on Tillerson
« Reply #134 on: January 09, 2017, 02:37:35 PM »
Inside Rex Tillerson’s Negotiating Style: Cozy With Power, Unbending and Theatrical
Senate to weigh if Exxon chief’s experience with multibillion-dollar, international deals prepares him to be secretary of state Photo: Associated Press
By Justin Scheck,
James Marson and
Bradley Olson
Updated Jan. 9, 2017 4:32 p.m. ET
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MOSCOW—In the spring of 2014, after the U.S. punished Russia with sanctions for seizing Ukrainian territory, Rex Tillerson made a major decision. The Exxon Mobil Corp. chief executive, now Donald Trump’s nominee for secretary of state, would deepen his company’s longstanding partnership with the Kremlin.

During negotiations, the CEO of Rosneft, the Kremlin’s state-controlled oil company, looked over a proposed contract related to the pair’s operations off Sakhalin Island, in Russia’s Far East, and scowled, said a person with knowledge of the meeting. Exxon, he said, put language in the contract he didn’t expect. He looked at Mr. Tillerson and tore it up.

Mr. Tillerson, the person said, leaned back, put his hands together, smiled silently—and waited. With billions of dollars already invested, the Russians had few other options. Rosneft’s CEO, a former intelligence officer and top Putin ally named Igor Sechin, eventually backed down, and an agreement was struck.

A look at Mr. Tillerson’s negotiating style, honed over years at the head of one of the world’s largest oil companies, shows an executive determined to hold the course, even when the landscape shifts dramatically. Personal relationships were often a deciding factor. So were deliberately theatrical tactics, such as preplanned temper tantrums and silent stare-offs.

The question for the Senate, which is expected to consider Mr. Tillerson’s nomination on Wednesday, is to what extent this kind of expertise prepares him for the job of secretary of state. He has vast experience hammering out multibillion-dollar deals that potentially span decades with government leaders of all stripes. On the other hand, a company is not a country.

The former Exxon chief’s dealings with Rosneft are likely to be a major line of questioning from both Republicans and Democrats, many of whom have said they are uncomfortable with Mr. Tillerson’s close ties there in the wake of Russia’s alleged hacking attack on figures in the Democratic Party.

The Russia deals added hundreds of millions of dollars to Exxon’s bottom line and billions of barrels of potential reserves to bolster the company’s future production. At the same time, they ran afoul of State Department priorities at a time when the U.S. was using sanctions to try to check Russian military interventions in Ukraine.

For Exxon, one of the world’s largest publicly traded oil companies, the results of the Russia deals are mixed. The deals struck in 2014, which technically expanded projects already in operation, didn’t violate sanctions, which targeted the spread of oil and gas technology. But other projects, especially a vast Arctic investment, ground to a halt, blocking Exxon’s access to rich reserves it hoped would ease its longtime struggle to find new resources.

“This is an industry with very long timelines,” said Alan Jeffers, an Exxon spokesman. “The current situation prevents us from activities in the area that are sanctioned, but we see that as a pause.”
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Mr. Tillerson received the Russian Order of Friendship, the country’s highest honor for foreigners, from Russian President Vladimir Putin in 2013. A look at how the relationship was forged. Photo: Getty Images

Mr. Tillerson declined to comment. Mr. Sechin and Rosneft didn’t respond to emailed questions.

Mr. Tillerson, who joined Exxon in 1975 and became CEO in 2006, specialized in the types of deals that typified the oil industry in the run-up to the recent price crash: Giant agreements, sometimes in unstable places, that cost billions of dollars to develop and aimed to produce huge volumes of oil and gas over decades.

He spent hours with the company’s negotiating teams, preparing for every potential aspect and plotting tactics, including the theatrical, according to people he worked with.

In a meeting in Yemen in the 1990s, he threw a book and stormed out of talks. The tantrum was preplanned, one person said. “Anger is a strategy, not an emotion,” Mr. Tillerson told colleagues.

He negotiated deals worth more than the GDP of some countries with officials who had vast power but lacked expertise. That meant he dealt with concerns other than money, such as a leader’s desire for Exxon to educate local workers or help a state-owned oil company gain technology.

He drank tea with tribal leaders and showed off Exxon facilities to visiting dignitaries.

In interactions with Russian leaders, Mr. Tillerson avoided giving any impression of American superiority, especially amid the post-Cold War tensions of the 1990s.

In a 2004 interview with The Wall Street Journal he described how when a Russian minister in the 1990s slammed his fist on the bargaining table in a dispute over a permit, raising images of former Soviet leader Nikita Khrushchev, he gingerly brought him back to the discussion.

“You make yourself very aware of it, and almost go out of your way to make sure there’s nothing that conveys” a superior attitude, he said. At the same time, he rarely budged on terms, seeking to project strength, said people familiar with his negotiating style.

Mr. Tillerson arrived in post-Soviet Russia in 1997 to chase the same prize as every other big Western oil executive: access to the country’s vast stores of untapped crude.
Some of Exxon’s operations at Sakhalin Island, in Russia’s Far East, in 2006.
Some of Exxon’s operations at Sakhalin Island, in Russia’s Far East, in 2006. Photo: REUTERS

He set up in a suite in the Metropol Hotel, just steps from Red Square, and tried to make sense of a Kremlin in turmoil. Russia cycled through six prime ministers in Mr. Tillerson’s first 14 months.

Even before the musical chairs ended with Mr. Putin in charge, in 1999, Exxon realized something its Western rivals didn’t. Joining with the Kremlin could shield the company from hostile takeovers by other state-owned firms and regulatory obstacles from the Russian government.

At a time when other Western oil giants dismissed state-owned companies as too bureaucratic and inflexible, Exxon committed to an ambitious project with Rosneft to develop an oil and gas field near Sakhalin Island. It would cost billions of dollars to develop and be one of the most technically complex projects in Exxon’s history, with oil and gas deep beneath sea ice in an area prone to earthquakes and 50-foot waves.

Over the years, it would be expanded multiple times. In the past decade, the partners have produced more than 300 million barrels from three separate fields, with a potential peak of 200,000 barrels a day, Exxon said.

Mr. Tillerson had a key person on the ground, a personable, Russian-speaking Croat named Zeljko Runje, who formed close relationships with Rosneft executives and years later would help pull off an even bigger Russian deal for Exxon.

When it first partnered with Exxon, Rosneft “had no equipment, they had no technology,” said a former Rosneft executive said. Exxon’s expertise and financing helped build Rosneft into one of the world’s largest producers, which strengthened Russian President Vladimir Putin’s grip on power. Energy revenues allowed him to boost spending at home and to project power abroad; Rosneft’s dominance gave him control of Russia’s most important industry.

In 2004, the Kremlin seized assets from OAO Yukos, then the country’s largest oil company, and Rosneft took control of its main production unit, becoming the country’s second-largest producer.

Exxon worked closely with Moscow to devise legislation on taxation and other issues that affected its investment, according to Igor Yusufov, Russia’s energy minister from 2001 to 2004.

Mr. Tillerson met with ministers and gave suggestions for legislation, Mr. Yusufov said. “He met everyone,” the Russian said. “He helped us to formulate the relationship between the state and investors.”

During a U.S.-Russia energy summit in Houston in 2002, Mr. Tillerson wooed Mr. Yusufov with a trip to Exxon facilities, where he showed the Russian minister a 3-D model of the Sakhalin project as it was at the time and as it would look at peak production.

Mr. Tillerson worked closely with Rosneft executives as the project began producing in 2005. He and then-Rosneft CEO Sergey Bogdanchikov landed their private jets at tiny Teterboro Airport, in suburban New Jersey, in 2006 and discussed Sakhalin and Rosneft’s coming initial public offering, said a person familiar with the talk.

Mr. Sechin, who had spent years in intelligence in Africa and elsewhere and later became a Kremlin political operative close to Mr. Putin, had become chairman of Rosneft in 2004. He took over as CEO in 2012 with the aim of extending its reach. His underlings quickly came to fear his 3 a.m. calls ordering them to pack for a trip to Asia as much as his outbursts at meetings over frustrations like project delays, former executives said.

He and Mr. Tillerson developed a comfortable rapport, said people who attended their meetings. Mr. Sechin was careful to show Mr. Tillerson he had the highest-possible backing. Two or three times a year or more, Mr. Sechin would ask Mr. Putin to speak, by phone or in person, with Mr. Tillerson, said one of the people.

Mr. Sechin came to like Mr. Tillerson because he was transparent and forceful in his communications—and was one of the few Western executives strong enough to push back against Mr. Sechin, said people familiar with the matter.
Mr. Tillerson signed an agreement with Rosneft’s CEO Igor Sechin to develop reserves in western Siberia in 2012.
Mr. Tillerson signed an agreement with Rosneft’s CEO Igor Sechin to develop reserves in western Siberia in 2012. Photo: EPA

The relationship helped Exxon land one of its biggest coups. In 2011, Exxon rival BP PLC reached a deal for access to a giant Rosneft-controlled Arctic field, but BP’s oligarch partners in a separate Russian joint venture blocked the deal.

Exxon’s longtime Russia hand, Mr. Runje, who had been key to the Sakhalin project more than a decade earlier, saw an opening and sent a message to Mr. Tillerson, said people familiar with the matter. Mr. Runje declined to comment.

Messrs. Tillerson and Sechin hashed out a $3.2 billion deal that was to be one of the biggest exploration contracts ever. It gave Exxon access to the Arctic fields BP lost, as well as basins in Siberia and in the Black Sea.

Mr. Putin, who had come to trust Mr. Tillerson as a man of his word, blessed the deal and said investment could eventually reach $500 billion.

Mr. Putin later awarded Mr. Tillerson the Russian Order of Friendship, the country’s highest honor for foreigners, after a request by Mr. Sechin, according to a person familiar with the matter.

By late 2014, when the partners hit oil and gas in the Arctic, sanctions by the U.S. and other countries were in place barring companies from sending oil and gas exploration technology to Russia, bringing operations to a halt.

In Washington, Exxon lobbied against the sanctions. Mr. Tillerson and others told senior officials that because of the complexity of the Arctic project Exxon couldn’t immediately pull out without significant safety and environmental risks.

The CEO also said U.S. sanctions applied to an existing project, unlike European sanctions, which exempted developments already under way, people familiar with the matter said.

Exxon withdrew from its Arctic project, and Mr. Tillerson stayed home from a St. Petersburg economic summit in 2014 for the first time in years. He continued to attend to Russia business, including efforts to build a gas export plant at Sakhalin and other operations.

“Over the years, I think we have earned each other’s respect,” Mr. Tillerson told students at an event in March 2015 at Texas Tech University. When Exxon says “yes,” he told them, the Russians would know that the company would “follow through on that yes. Your commitment means something. And so I think it’s the most important attribute.”


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Re: Big WSJ article on Tillerson
« Reply #136 on: January 09, 2017, 04:46:45 PM »
I didn't know anything about Tillerson before this.  Don't know yet if I will agree with him on policy.  The appearance of having an Exxon (or the Goldman Sachs) guy is lousy.   Suddenly, personally knowing Putin is a big negative.  All the negatives make me think he is quite an impressive guy. 

Like with Cheney and Haliburton, people think he will put loyalties to old friends and old business ahead of the interests of the nation.  It's possible but I don't think that way.  Not everyone is a Clinton.

I don't see him as any kind of pushover; Trump wanted the best negotiators and Sec of State is the highest one.  But even if he is too nice of a guy, we have the Defense Secretary to play the role of bad cop with some of these characters on the world stage.

Acts as small as the Taiwan phone call or not flinching during negotiations send a message to leaders of countries more than just the one currently at the table.


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Trump Lewis
« Reply #137 on: January 15, 2017, 06:11:39 AM »
""The tweet is unnecessary, it's unfortunate," former Republican National Committee chairman Michael Steele, who is African-American, said on MSNBC"

I dunno.  It is not like Lewis comments were also not unnecessary or unfortunate.  It is not like Lewis will ever say anything good about Trump or anything GOP.  It is not like Lewis has not become a total anit-GOP partisan and works to discredit them at every turn for many years.

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/donald-trump-clashes-with-civil/2017/01/15/id/768626/

Like Paul Ryan who caves with the setup question at a CNN townhall meeting . If he is not prepared to stake a conservative position at the meeting then why go on it when we all know CNN is going to have the bleeding heart stories pleaded to make him and the GOP and Trump looks bad.
Once again Republicans cave .   


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Re: Trump Lewis
« Reply #138 on: January 15, 2017, 06:50:30 PM »
The alternative for Trump would have been to not punch back because he is black, and that would be racist.


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Trump and the deep state
« Reply #140 on: January 16, 2017, 04:45:13 PM »
http://ace.mu.nu/archives/367908.php

January 16, 2017
The Intel Community "Deep State" Is Conducting Political Warfare inside the US

They do this a lot -- ineffectually -- in foreign countries.

Now they're doing the same thing here, and just as ineffectuality.

Video at the link, but here are some quotes:

    "It cast doubt, not on CNN, but on the intelligence community and what they're doing exactly," Hemingway said. "Obviously they're leaking like sieves in an ongoing war against the president [elect]. So BuzzFeed kind of pulled the curtain back, showing how the intelligence community -- particularly the more partisan brass, not the intelligence officers who do the good work -- how they use the media to punish or destroy their political enemies."

    "That is a very important journalistic story, and one that I think should be covered as journalists are sort of cooperating with this intelligence community campaign against the president [elect]," she said. "As we take this information from them we should also apply skepticism."

    Asked if she thought intelligence officials were pushing these stories, Hemingway said U.S.Director of National Intelligence James "Clapper is a guy who lied to Congress about whether he was spying on them, he lied under oath about whether he was collecting information on hundreds of millions of Americans. We've had the intelligence community get in trouble for some political decisions about releasing information on Syria, creating an echo chamber to push the Iran deal. So as we take this information from them, we should also be applying skepticism and that’s something that’s not just right now but really going back decades. It's a lesson we keep failing to learn."

What scares me here is not the sinisterness of this -- but the gross incompetence, clumsiness, and obviousness of it.

This is the agency "covertly" attempting to influence foreign nations to our advantage? Using this level of deftness of touch? Hiding their hands to this extent?

I always thought Idiocracy was both a plausible and unsettling end-of-days scenario. It was unsettling because there was no heroism in humanity's last stand, just a pitiful stupidity. Other apocalypse scenarios at least give you the mercy of a powerful and capable villain -- so that even if you die, you die nobly and heroically, battling a worthy foe.

This entire episode is revealing our IC to not be some sinister and capable organization, but instead to be sinister and incompetent, incapable, and impotent.

But very energetic -- in a spastic, fumbling way -- in their determination to make their lurching presence felt.

It's frightening to think that the world is controlled by powerful unseen forces -- but it's terrifying to think the world is clumsily manipulated by borderline retards who imagine themselves to be kingmakers and kingbreakers.

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Re: The Trump Transition/Administration
« Reply #142 on: January 17, 2017, 12:20:56 PM »
BD: 

That is 39 pages of serious reading.  Do you post it for general reference, or for some reason in particular?

PS:  Please post in the Constitutional Law thread on the SC&H forum as well.


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Re: The Trump Transition/Administration
« Reply #143 on: January 17, 2017, 12:48:40 PM »
BD: 

That is 39 pages of serious reading.  Do you post it for general reference, or for some reason in particular?

PS:  Please post in the Constitutional Law thread on the SC&H forum as well.



General reference.

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Re: The Trump Transition/Administration
« Reply #144 on: January 17, 2017, 04:02:17 PM »
I read the preface.  Looks like a good reference.  Thank you  8-)



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Re: The Trump Transition/Administration
« Reply #147 on: January 18, 2017, 01:31:27 PM »
How about a kind tweet like
"I wish Bush sr and Barbara a quick recovery!"

though it might seem strange after his demolition of Jeb it would still be a kind gesture.



Instead of the usual "FU" tweet to whoever pisses him off.

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Re: The Trump Transition/Administration
« Reply #148 on: January 18, 2017, 01:39:41 PM »

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5 things to watch for in Mnuchin hearing
« Reply #149 on: January 19, 2017, 06:49:59 AM »
http://thehill.com/policy/finance/314965-five-things-to-watch-for-in-mnuchin-hearing?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=5779

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POtH:

‘The rich are different’ — Steve Mnuchin edition

At first blush, Mr. Mnuchin was a busy enough man, with his investment business and his Hollywood endeavors listed on a Dec. 19 questionnaire for the Senate Finance Committee that he swore was “true, accurate and complete.”

But when pushed by committee aides, Mr. Mnuchin conceded there was more. In a revised questionnaire submitted to the committee this month, he disclosed that he was also the director of Dune Capital International Ltd., an investment fund incorporated in the Cayman Islands, a tax haven. He also revealed his management posts in seven other investment funds, which he said he “inadvertently missed,” according to Finance Committee documents obtained by The New York Times.

According to those documents:

    In his revised questionnaire, Mr. Mnuchin disclosed several additional financial assets, including $95 million worth of real estate — a co-op in New York City; a residence in Southampton, New York; a residence in Los Angeles, California; and $15 million in real estate holdings in Mexico. Mr. Mnuchin has claimed these omissions were due to a misunderstanding of the questionnaire — he does not consider these assets to be “investment assets” and thus did not disclose them, even though the Committee directs the nominee to list all real estate assets.

He also forgot to disclose the $906,556 worth of artwork held by his children.
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