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"some lefties get it" from above CD post
« Reply #900 on: December 20, 2018, 05:42:09 AM »

https://theweek.com/articles/813343/mueller-delusion

I like the link to the word *sedition*  summing up what we are seeing in one single word

Endless libel being used as a form of insurrection
which is truly what we are seeing


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Not a witch hunt, it's a snipe hunt
« Reply #901 on: December 20, 2018, 07:22:41 AM »
https://theweek.com/articles/813343/mueller-delusion

This is very well expressed.  The Left should beware of this kind of unrestrained, attack oriented scrutiny.  How would the administrations of Obama and Clinton held up to that?  Break the door down at dawn with jack booted thugs instead of asking nicely for emails and billing records...

Excerpts:
"... indicting Flynn under the terms of the Logan Act, which is the prosecutorial equivalent of announcing a snipe hunt."
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"Mueller is doing a good impersonation of a delusional power-crazed middle-school librarian. "Did you ever have a conversation with Rob and Pat in this library? Did you use your library voice? Okay, was it on a Tuesday? No, it was actually a Wednesday, and you, sir, are getting detention. Oh, what's that? You happen to know that Kev and Phil were smoking cigarettes on the loading dock back in the seventh grade? Thank you, thank you so much! No, that's all right, I can ring their employers."
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"let's get real. Random meetings with randos? Not collusion. Cheating on taxes? Not collusion. Illegal campaign contributions? Not collusion. Sleeping with porn stars and lying about it with the help of some greasy tabloid maven? Disgusting but not collusion."

He gets it.

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Re: The Russian conspiracy, Comey, Mueller, and related matters
« Reply #902 on: December 20, 2018, 08:43:00 AM »
We've not mentioned it here, nor have I seen it mentioned much in our usual news sources, but am I wrong in thinking that Trump having signed a letter of intent for a hotel deal in Russia pretty much nails him in a lie when he said he had nothing going on in Russia?

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Re: The Russian conspiracy, Comey, Mueller, and related matters
« Reply #903 on: December 20, 2018, 09:13:22 AM »
" We've not mentioned it here, nor have I seen it mentioned much in our usual news sources, but am I wrong in thinking that Trump having signed a letter of intent for a hotel deal in Russia pretty much nails him in a lie when he said he had nothing going on in Russia? "

It looks sleazy
 he is working on hotel deal in Moscow ( which I read he had been doing since 2003 or 04.)
And at the same time publicaly stating he can work with Putin and saying we need to give Russia a chance.

He spent his whole life thinking about making money .  Never in politics before. 
He could not see the appearance of this connection, or was it pure greed and the endless pursuit to close deals in his interest no matter what ?  Hard to know .

Then again while sleazy this in not high crimes or mideamers
I wouldn't think taking the opinions of some attorneys like Dershowitz


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Re: The Russian conspiracy, Comey, Mueller, and related matters
« Reply #904 on: December 20, 2018, 09:58:30 AM »
We've not mentioned it here, nor have I seen it mentioned much in our usual news sources, but am I wrong in thinking that Trump having signed a letter of intent for a hotel deal in Russia pretty much nails him in a lie when he said he had nothing going on in Russia?

Or as the NYT put it, he was less than forthcoming.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/29/us/politics/fact-check-cohen-trump-.html

“I have nothing to do with Russia. I never did.”
On at least 23 occasions since the summer of 2016, Mr. Trump has said either that he had “nothing” to do with Russia, or that he has “no deals,” no investments and no “business” in Russia.
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Trump is not a carefully accurate speaker as both his supporters and detractors well know.  I would add that his detractors are not careful listeners.

I take the denials to come with qualifications, not that the word Russia has never been spoken within a global company or that a project was never contemplated.  A discussion, even letter of intent is not business, a deal, or an investment, to him, before a closing, as they call it in real estate.  To him, the Russia Project was not then and did not (yet) turn into a deal. 

Did money change hands or just words?  How is the head of a global development company not always looking for the next project?

I did not know about the "letter of intent" from October 2015.  Yes that looks bad but non-binding is the opposite of a contract or a "deal".
https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/18/politics/trump-signed-letter-of-intent-rudy-giuliani-moscow/index.html

I don't see his signature on it but easily concede he knew about it.
http://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2018/images/12/18/attachment.1.pdf

Of course they would want to build there.  Did something inappropriate happen in regard to that. 

Two systems of Justice:  If one wanted to prosecute anything to do with that they should have first locked up both Clintons over Uranium One where quid pro quo most certainly and measurably happened and American interests were clearly compromised. 

Was he supposed to quit his company in the campaign or just remove himself from operations of the company if elected?  I think he did the latter and this would be fatal if what is alleged happened after inauguration.

The opposition focus is on impeachment so there is a special emphasis on what has he done in terms of high crimes AS PRESIDENT.  This seems to be missing a high crime and didn't happen as President.


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Carter: The confusion is on purpose
« Reply #905 on: December 20, 2018, 09:59:48 AM »
"Unsealing the indictments against Flynn’s former partners a day before Flynn’s sentencing hearing muddied the water. It roped in Flynn, who despite cooperating with the Special Counsel, was now tainted by another mess."

https://saraacarter.com/the-sentencing-that-didnt-happen-why-flynns-case-is-bigger-than-flynn/?utm=push

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Andrew McCarthy: Why Barr is on Dem hit list
« Reply #906 on: December 20, 2018, 02:02:42 PM »
The latest Andrew McCarthy piece clarifies why CNN and the rest of the hit mob are trying to pull a Justice Kavanaugh on Attorney General nominee Barr:

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/12/the-barr-memo-is-a-commendable-piece-of-lawyering/
« Last Edit: December 20, 2018, 03:15:57 PM by Crafty_Dog »

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Mueller Report could be a Disaster for Democrats
« Reply #907 on: December 31, 2018, 08:07:19 AM »
Paraphrasing and taking a line of thought from Marc Theissen writing in the Bezos Bulletin last week...

Most likely the report will have no Russian collusion, no felonies committed by Trump in office, but will find medium level business transgressions from somewhere in his past.

Democrat base has wanted to impeach before there was evidence.  Most certainly the report will put activists in a position where they have to support only Democrats who move to impeach and vote to remove from office.  

Impeachment only requires a House majority which the Democrats reach this week.  It they attempt impeachment and fail, their party is by definition divided - divided on the biggest - only - issue of the day, Trump.

If impeached in the Dem House, the conviction removal trial in the Senate will most certainly fail for the reasons cited above, no Russian collusion, no high crimes committed in office plus the bad tactics and mission creep of the FBI and Mueller probe tainting their evidence.

Meanwhile a Presidential endorsement campaign kicks into high gear instantly and any Dem soft on this issue will be run over.  What will they call them, Democrat in name only?

Then combine that with the lessons of recent history, the voters will punish the party of impeachment, not the unethical guy that committed the lowly transgressions.

In other words, what the country wants and what the activists want are diametrically opposed.  So which way do you turn if you are an elected Democrat, with your base or with your state, district and country?  Hint: your base can punish you first.

Meanwhile, all Republicans need to do is sit quietly through all the proceedings and vote their conscience like adults at the end.  And talk about the issues the country should be focusing on.

After impeachment and the removal that will never happen, all Democrats can succeed in doing is making Mike Pence the President running as the incumbent, while Trump continues to break down trade and business barriers for American employers and workers, standing up to rogue dictators and pulling us out of foreign wars right up until the end.

Logic and Leftism are mutually exclusive, how does the fight to make Mike Pence President reverse the 2016 election?  

Bill Clinton had a 73% approval rating after the impeachment and removal trial even though 100% of the public knew he lied to the American people, lied under oath and put his semen on a medium large blue dress of a willing adult outside of marriage in the Oval Office while serving as President.
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Re: The Russian conspiracy, Comey, Mueller, and related matters
« Reply #908 on: December 31, 2018, 01:24:40 PM »
"Democrat base has wanted to impeach before there was evidence.  Most certainly the report will put activists in a position where they have to support only Democrats who move to impeach and vote to remove from office. 

Impeachment only requires a House majority which the Democrats reach this week.  It they attempt impeachment and fail, their party is by definition divided - divided on the biggest - only - issue of the day, Trump."

The 93 % media that is leftist will be doing their part to sway opinion in favor or impeachment with endless polls from the usual leftist sources convincing as a majority want impeachment . 

Then it will full throttle ahead .

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Re: The Russian conspiracy, Comey, Mueller, and related matters
« Reply #909 on: December 31, 2018, 01:30:57 PM »


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Re: The Russia Hotel deal
« Reply #911 on: January 06, 2019, 09:59:19 AM »
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/423958-five-things-to-know-about-the-trump-tower-moscow-proposal?userid=188403

Trump tweet, Jan 2017 just before taking office:  I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH RUSSIA - NO DEALS, NO LOANS, NO NOTHING!”

Note the all-important tense and timing above.  I understood that he had past real estate financing with Russians.  If so, he is declaring that any of those were settled before inauguration.  He told the nation he entered office with no existing, ongoing business with Russia.  The so-called Moscow project does not contradict that.

"Letter of Intent" which is not a contract ("deal") was signed October 2015, not exactly a secret deal in the Oval Office.

People well knew Trump was actively in the development business of projects (like this) around the world, and would likely continue in that if not elected President.  He had no reason as a private citizen to chase deals everywhere but Moscow.  He didn't claim to step away from company operations until well into the transition.  The Moscow proposal may look bad undisclosed in the campaign period point of view but is not anything near an impeachable offense committed by a President of United States.

Trump's lawyers:  "there was never a formal, binding agreement and that the deal never came to fruition."

Absent new facts, nothing presented contradicts that.

Assuming Mueller doesn't have someone lying to investigators about this, getting this story out now actually helps Trump.  He would like to answer the Mueller report with 'nothing new, nothing illegal, no collusion, nothing impeachable' in the report.

More worrisome is the unknown unknown, past business dealings of illegality that come up while the teams of investigators dig into the everything of an integrity challenged character.  But prosecutors face a ticking statute of limitations on business crimes short of murder, typically 1-5 years depending on the crime and jurisdiction.  Accusations of how he handled the mob controlled contractors in NYC 1990 have no meaning or relevance here.  If it's not indictable, it's probably not impeachable.  Assuming he was more and more careful with tax laws, housing laws, employment laws etc while he moved closer to running, Mueller is letting that clock run while spends up a fortune with his activist team.  Everyday that limits how far he can meaningfully go back into Trump's past.

Reading Mueller's hand from here, he has nothing big or he would have come forward much sooner.

Removal from office happens when the President's own party turns against him.  With all that is known we have none of that so far.  I believe it will take a serious and consequential misdeed committed while in office to get there.  Unless he screwed up on his open book test, his written answers to investigators, the rest of it like firing Comey is political, not criminal.

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The most successful cover-up
« Reply #912 on: January 07, 2019, 03:02:46 PM »
https://spectator.org/the-most-successful-coverup/


Democrats get away with a much worse crime than Watergate.
Since Watergate, the Washington wisdom has always held that it’s not the crime, it’s the coverup that sinks a politician. But that’s only the case when the coverup fails.

But what if the coverup succeeds?

It’s horribly simple. The crimes are never uncovered and the perpetrators are never brought to justice no matter how serious their crimes may be. That is precisely what has happened because of the FBI and Justice Department’s coverup of their abuses of power and illegal actions during the 2016 election.

In this case, the FBI and the Justice Department have succeeded in the most significant coverup in American political history. The abuses of power and crimes they have succeeded in covering up are not only against the law: they are crimes against our system of law and government. They were perpetrated by employees of the government, under color of law, with the intention of affecting the outcome of an election.

For almost two years an investigation into the abuses of power — and probable crimes — committed by the FBI and Justice Department during the election has been conducted by House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence chairman Devin Nunes (R-Cal).  Rep. Bob Goodlatte — chairman of the Judiciary Committee — and Trey Gowdy — chairman of the Oversight and government reform committee — tried to investigate other aspects of the FBI and DoJ actions.

These investigations have been stonewalled by the refusal of the FBI and Justice Department to produce the documents and provide access to witnesses that would, in all likelihood, prove that the major abuses of power and crimes had been committed.

Nunes, Goodlatte, and Gowdy had effectively split their inquiries: Nunes investigating possible crimes and abuses of power under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act and Goodlatte and Gowdy jointly investigating the FBI’s mishandling and improper actions in its investigation into Hillary Clinton’s use of a private, insecure email system for conversations with her staff — and Obama — on top secret information, including special access programs and satellite intelligence.

The two important products of those investigations were the 18 January 2017 memo declassified by President Trump and released by Nunes and the newly released 28 December 2018 letter from Goodlatte and Gowdy addressed to Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, Acting Attorney General Matthew Whitaker, and DoJ Inspector General Michael Horowitz.

If this is the first you’ve heard of the 28 December letter, that’s because it’s been studiously ignored by the media.

The key facts revealed by the Nunes memo were:

(1) that the FBI used, as the factual basis for the Foreign Intelligence Act Surveillance Court warrant applications, information from the Steele dossier, a compilation of anti-Trump information that the FBI had not verified. The FBI nevertheless swore to the truth of that information to obtain surveillance warrants on Carter Page, a one-time Trump campaign advisor; and

(2) that in the process of obtaining the search warrants the FBI failed to inform the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court that the Steele dossier was bought and paid for by the Democratic National Committee and the Hillary Clinton presidential campaign.

As I wrote at the time of the memo’s release, and on several occasions since, the Nunes memo showed that the actions of the FBI and Justice Department, sometimes in conjunction with the Obama White House, were worse than Watergate.

The Nunes investigation is over, but myriad questions remain. Among them:

What other FISA warrants were obtained to surveil the communications of Americans, particularly those of the Trump campaign advisors and Trump himself?
Obama’s National Security Advisor, Susan Rice, was asking for and obtaining hundreds of “unmaskings,” revealing of U.S. citizens’ identities when their communications were intercepted by the FBI and NSA as part of intelligence operations. Whose names were unmasked, was this information used to Trump’s disadvantage in the campaign, why did the unmaskings occur, and what information was shared by Rice with Obama and/or Clinton?
What direction did the FBI, the NSA, and other intelligence agencies receive from Obama, Rice, and Obama’s CIA director, John Brennan, with respect to the monitoring of Trump-related communications?
Most, if not all, of that information could be gleaned from documents and testimony the FBI and DoJ have withheld from congressional investigators.

The latest, and almost certainly last, effort to expose the facts of this scandal are contained in the Goodlatte-Gowdy letter. They are the last exposé because the Democrats have stopped these investigations cold. There will be no more hearings, no more testimony, and no further attempts to get the documents and testimony from the FBI and Justice Department that have been withheld.

The Goodlatte-Gowdy letter is as revealing as was the Nunes memo. The two outgoing committee chairmen chose to focus on the importance of decisions made and not made by the FBI and DoJ, the bias of some agents and attorneys involved, and the evidently disparate treatment of the Clinton email investigation and the counter-intelligence investigation of the Trump campaign.

Under 18 US Code Section 793(f) it is a felony to handle classified information in a “grossly negligent” manner. The Goodlatte-Gowdy letter flatly says that the FBI and DoJ read elements into the “gross negligence” law that do not exist. In then-FBI director James Comey’s 5 July 2016 televised statement exonerating Clinton, the FBI read into the law a higher level of scienter — intent and knowledge of the unlawfulness of conduct — than the law required.

Moreover, the letter says, there is little or no evidence investigators made any effort to identify evidence that could have satisfied the FBI-devised scienter element that is not in the law.

We should remember Comey’s televised statement in which he said that “no reasonable prosecutor” would have brought a case against Clinton under the gross negligence law. He also said that the decision not to do so was unanimous among those involved.

That was one of Comey’s biggest lies. As the Goodlatte-Gowdy letter points out, FBI General Counsel James Baker told them that he did believe a case could be made and the recommendation not to charge Clinton wasn’t unanimous.

Goodlatte and Gowdy point out that Comey’s exoneration memo was drafted before all of the relevant witnesses had been interviewed. What they fail to mention is that the FBI and DoJ were handing out immunity from prosecution agreements to Clinton staffers as freely as if the agreements were Halloween candy.

Immunity agreements are given to key witnesses in criminal investigations for a price: their testimony against a target of the investigation which could not otherwise be obtained. There is no evidence whatsoever that any of the witnesses involved — Clinton staffers such as Cheryl Mills, her chief of staff at the State Department — gave any evidence that justified the immunity agreements.

The Goodlatte-Gowdy letter also points out that the Comey exoneration memo was changed before it was issued, but fails to specify the biggest change. Originally a part of the memo said that Clinton and her staff handled classified information in a “grossly negligent” manner. Comey changed that to read “extremely careless,” clearly to prevent the law from being applied. The only difference between the two phrases is that one appears in the statute and one doesn’t, but Comey nevertheless stated that there was no prosecutable case.

Comey also, according to the letter, overlooked evidence that foreign actors had accessed Clinton’s emails, and probably those of her staffers, including at least one containing “Secret” information. That information, too, was excised from Comey’s draft exoneration memo for the purpose of helping Clinton.

The only conclusion possible — which Goodlatte and Gowdy do not state — is that Comey’s FBI intentionally gave Clinton a pass when they should have recommended to the Justice Department that she be prosecuted.

Comey is not the only malfeasant named in the Goodlatte-Gowdy letter. The other is former FBI agent Peter Strzok, he of the thousands of text messages sent to or received from his lover, FBI lawyer Lisa Page, that showed he — and she and others in the FBI — weren’t only biased against Trump, but had an abiding hatred of him.

Strzok’s central role in the Clinton and Trump investigations probably ended in 2017 when Special Counsel Robert Mueller removed him from the Mueller team. Before that, as the letter says, Strzok:

Conducted the interview of Clinton (which wasn’t recorded or transcribed contrary to normal procedure) and participated heavily in other aspects of the Clinton investigation;
Initiated the Russia investigation of the Trump campaign and helped draft— and possibly swore to — the FISA warrant applications;
Promised to stop Trump from becoming president and openly discussed an “insurance policy” if Trump won;
Called Trump “destabilizing; and
Interviewed Michael Flynn, leading to Flynn’s indictment for lying to the FBI.
Strzok was finally fired from the FBI in August 2018. We — including Nunes, Goodlatte and Gowdy — don’t know whether he was involved in the investigation of the Trump campaign after Mueller removed him in 2017.

Comey’s appearances in congressional hearings have yielded nothing of value because he has been instructed by FBI lawyers not to answer any of the critical questions.

Another possible malfeasant, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, has been equally protected. As the Goodlatte-Gowdy letter explains, former FBI general counsel James Baker testified that after Trump fired Comey there were discussions among FBI staff about Trump’s fitness for office and invoking the 25th Amendment to remove Trump.

Baker testified that he was told — by then-acting FBI director Andrew McCabe and Strzok’s lover, Lisa Page — that Rosenstein had proposed wearing a recording device in conversations with President Trump. To record what? Rosenstein was supposed to be interviewed by the Goodlatte-Gowdy investigators but was never available. Rosenstein has denied that he said anything about wearing a recording device in conversations with Trump.

The only avenue that was left to find the truth was for President Trump to have ordered the documents declassified and provided to Congress. But he never acted and now the investigations are closed. The Senate won’t reopen them, nor will acting AG Whitaker or IG Horowitz. The only hope resides in U.S. Attorney for Utah John Huber, an Obama appointee, who then-AG Jeff Sessions tasked to investigate FBI misconduct in the election. Those who place their hopes in Huber will be disappointed.

The stain on our system of justice and the 2016 election created by the abuses of power and probable crimes committed by FBI and DoJ officials during and after the 2016 presidential campaign will not be erased. Their coverup has succeeded.



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Well not Russians - now it is Ukranian
« Reply #915 on: January 10, 2019, 01:58:05 PM »
So how much more important about internal polling data vs the 50 public polling datas we were hit with every day on the media?

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/09/politics/manafort-ukrainian-oligarchs/index.html

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Re: The Russian conspiracy, Comey, Mueller, and related matters
« Reply #916 on: January 10, 2019, 06:05:45 PM »
Doug:

The significance that I see is that yet again Manafort enables Mueller to blow smoke.

Rumint says that the solitary confinement thing is really getting to him , , ,

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Re: The Russian conspiracy, Comey, Mueller, and related matters
« Reply #917 on: January 10, 2019, 08:50:37 PM »
Doug:

The significance that I see is that yet again Manafort enables Mueller to blow smoke.

Rumint says that the solitary confinement thing is really getting to him , , ,


Out: Trump left the toilet seat up! journalism

In: Trump left the toilet seat up! prosecution



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Re: The Russian conspiracy, Comey, Mueller, and related matters
« Reply #919 on: January 15, 2019, 05:56:27 PM »
" NRO: French: FBI was right to investigate Trump"

Thanks Dave ! 

Do we ever see such pansies on the Left ?




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What is French for fool?
« Reply #921 on: January 16, 2019, 02:24:10 PM »

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Re: The Russian conspiracy, Comey, Mueller, and related matters
« Reply #922 on: January 16, 2019, 02:55:15 PM »
I just came to post that but you beat me to it!

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Re: The Russian conspiracy, Comey, Mueller, and related matters
« Reply #923 on: January 16, 2019, 03:01:23 PM »
" I just came to post that but you beat me to it!"

Wack!

Just kidding but I could not resist. 

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Mueller report coming soon?? Is there an end to this?
« Reply #924 on: January 17, 2019, 06:44:46 AM »
The Mueller report is allegedly coming out soon, Feb or March.  It wasn't ready ahead of the midterm and now can be timed to follow the confirmation of a new Attorney General.  Certain Trump's public statements and actions will be heavily criticized.  He was way out of bounds when he jokingly asked the Russians to release Hillary's emails if they have them, for example.  On the core question it will have nothing.  Did candidate or President Trump collude with the Russians to do anything illegal?  No.  Did people he hired commit past crimes?  Yes.  Nothing in the report will make Trump look good but he will most certainly declare himself vindicated by the report.  The Left will soon be criticizing Mueller for weakness and for his past ties to Republicans.  He didn't go far enough.  The indictments and referrals made along the way already give the blueprint of the report.  The opponents of Trump will see plenty in it to make accusations of wrongdoing.  Those already calling for impeachment will call for impeachment.  An impeachment vote will be taken in the House, and fail.  Dems will be more divided on it than Republicans. The investigations will continue in the congressional committees.

What will the Mueller report say and what will be done about all the FBI and Mueller senior staff misdeeds exposed along the way?  Those I presume also will be mostly swept under the rug.  It would quite a startling outcome if Mueller ends his probe with a referral to the new Attorney General prosecute his own disgraced senior staff.

Russian collusion will be investigated in the House and perhaps someone will get the charge of Eric Holder, contempt of congress, as they try to avoid the committee or exert and executive privilege.  Expect court challenges on all of that. 

FBI abuse of the system will be investigated in the Senate no more effectively than the previous Benghazi and Hillary email investigations in the House.  They will easily be made to look bad but face no criminal consequence.  The public's eyes and ears will glaze over all the confusing names and details about Strzok, Page, Ohr, McCabe, Comey, Weisman, Steele, Page and FISA.  Only someone already supporting Trump will understand

The media will get off scot free for their role in concocting this fake scandal out of nothing real.

New events and new alleged scandals will put this fiasco behind us.  The lesson learned will be to go ahead and take anyone you disagree with or lose to down with every means possible at every opportunity if you have that power.

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Ohr told them all but they still hid it from the FISA court
« Reply #925 on: January 17, 2019, 08:05:33 AM »
https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/425739-fisa-shocker-doj-official-warned-steele-dossier-was-connected-to-clinton

The then-No. 4 Department of Justice (DOJ) official briefed both senior FBI and DOJ officials in summer 2016 about Christopher Steele’s Russia dossier, explicitly cautioning that the British intelligence operative’s work was opposition research connected to Hillary Clinton’s campaign and might be biased.


Ohr’s briefings, in July and August 2016, included the deputy director of the FBI, a top lawyer for then-Attorney General Loretta Lynch and a Justice official who later would become the top deputy to special counsel Robert Mueller.

At the time, Ohr was the associate attorney general. Yet his warnings about political bias were pointedly omitted weeks later from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) warrant that the FBI obtained from a federal court, granting it permission to spy on whether the Trump campaign was colluding with Russia to hijack the 2016 presidential election.
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They knew and they withheld key source information.  The FISA application refers to a law firm, not a campaign as the funding source.

Who signed the four FISA applications?  Comey, Yates, McCabe, and Rosenstein.

Those are some big fish to fry.

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Re: The Russian conspiracy, Comey, Mueller, and related matters
« Reply #926 on: January 17, 2019, 08:18:27 AM »
This is of significant import.

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If true this will be grounds for impeachment
« Reply #927 on: January 18, 2019, 07:32:37 AM »
any evidence other than from a rat who has gun held to his head?

I wish someone would do same to Rice Lynn and Holder to get them to admit Obama covered up crimes and refused to enforce the law which we know he did .

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/jasonleopold/trump-russia-cohen-moscow-tower-mueller-investigation

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Re: If true this will be grounds for impeachment
« Reply #928 on: January 18, 2019, 09:45:56 AM »
any evidence other than from a rat who has gun held to his head?
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/jasonleopold/trump-russia-cohen-moscow-tower-mueller-investigation

A few flaws in the story.  Cohen is a convicted liar.  Buzzfeed is unreliable.  The two law enforcement officers they cite would be breaking rules to disclose that, especially with such detail, therefore unreliable.  Trump did not have a deal in Russia, he hoped to have a deal in Russia.  Can a client even advise their own lawyer to lie? isn't the burden the other way around, for the lawyer to advise the client not to lie under oath or to Congress.

"The special counsel’s office learned about Trump’s directive for Cohen to lie to Congress through interviews with multiple witnesses from the Trump Organization and internal company emails, text messages, and a cache of other documents. Cohen then acknowledged those instructions during his interviews with that office."

That is not the special counsel's office disclosing that.  They have had no known leaks.  Why the whole range of sources, none by themselves is clear or convincing?  Buzzfeed does not even allege it came from the special counsel's office.

If it is true, we will know soon enough.  Was a law broken?  Can you suborn perjury to your own lawyer.  

I don't think Trump uses email and doubt he puts instructions like that in text.  Funny they don't mention the taped conversations as the source, the only evidence likely to show something like this.

"Dear Michael, Please lie under oath on my behalf to help me win the election.   - Donald"
I'll bet that's what he wrote.  (sarc.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZITsYGMsMQ    'Everything wrong with Buzzfeed'
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/01/12/why-so-many-journalists-are-mad-at-buzzfeed/?utm_term=.3c9ee3191f62
https://www.politifact.com/rhode-island/statements/2013/jul/25/buzzfeed/buzzfeed-awesome-fact-about-toothbrush-and-toothpa/
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« Reply #929 on: January 18, 2019, 01:12:14 PM »
Did the authors see any evidence? Yes! says one. No! says the other:
https://pjmedia.com/blog/liveblogevent/live-blog-168/entry-250466/
https://t.co/zzQ3zFCW38



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« Reply #932 on: January 18, 2019, 08:01:42 PM »
buzz feed BS
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2019/01/18/shocker-reporter-who-co-wrote-bombshell-story-about-trump-directing-cohen-to-l-n2539285

https://cdn.dailycaller.com/2019/01/18/muellers-office-disputes-buzzfeeds-report/

https://twitter.com/NolteNC/status/1086440815721959425

"BOTTOM LINE OF WHAT HAPPENED:

Buzzfeed knew it published a lie. Rest of the media knew it was a lie, spread it anyway. The story was BS. They knew it. We all did.

BUT they figured there was no way they could be caught.

Because no one dreamed Mueller would fact check them."
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« Reply #933 on: January 18, 2019, 09:03:13 PM »
*My source* told me that Buzzfeed got their bombshell information from a *Russian source*.

Time for an investigation into the collusion between Putin and the liberal media for trying to bring down Trump!


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Rep. Louie Gohmert charges Mueller with Uranium One deal
« Reply #934 on: January 28, 2019, 09:58:35 AM »
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/06/09/gohmert_mueller_covering_involvement_in_clinton-uranium_deal_while_trying_to_have_a_coup_against_trump.html

Mueller was FBI Director when this deal was approved, was warned about the shady Russian characters involved.
https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/409356-fbis-37-secret-pages-of-memos-about-russia-clintons-and-uranium-one

PolitiFact on Uranium One deal:
The real reason Russia wanted this deal was to give Rosatom’s subsidiary the Uranium One’s very profitable uranium mines in Kazakhstan - the single largest producer of commercial uranium in the world.
https://www.politifact.com/facebook-fact-checks/statements/2018/dec/07/blog-posting/complex-tale-involving-hillary-clinton-uranium-rus/

Did Mueller look at it again after the financier donated to the Clintons?
https://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/31/us/politics/31donor.html

Nov 2018, FBI goes after Clinton Foundation whistleblower?
https://dailycaller.com/2018/11/29/fbi-whistleblower-clinton-uranium/

An ex-president, a mining deal and a big donor - The New York Times
https://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/31/world/americas/31iht-31donor.9634647.html

Former Kazakhstan uranium czar blames imprisonment on sale of Clinton-linked Canadian company to Russians
https://nationalpost.com/news/world/former-kazakhstan-uranium-czar-blames-imprisonment-on-sale-of-clinton-linked-canadian-company-to-russians

As PoliticFact put it, link above, a "complex tale involving Hillary Clinton, uranium and Russia resurfaces"

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Opinion from USA today
« Reply #935 on: January 30, 2019, 04:20:47 AM »
no collusion no crime by Trump:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/roger-stone-apos-not-guilty-203253756.html

New AG needs to put time limit on MUUUler ? and Winesteen.  Put up or shut up already.


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« Reply #936 on: January 30, 2019, 07:48:57 AM »
no collusion no crime by Trump:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/roger-stone-apos-not-guilty-203253756.html

New AG needs to put time limit on MUUUler ? and Winesteen.  Put up or shut up already.

Mueller is done, closing up shop without any encouragement.  There was no collusion.

Andrew McCarthy makes the same point:
Stone indictment makes clear there was no Trump-Russia conspiracy
"If the Trump campaign had been in an espionage conspiracy with Russia to hack Democratic email accounts, why would the campaign have needed Stone to try to figure out what stolen information WikiLeaks had and when it would release that information?"
https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/427241-andrew-mccarthy-stone-indictment-makes-clear-there-was-no-trump-russia

Trump will say vindicated and Democrats will say guilty and the debates will go on.  HRC, Clapper and Brennan who lied to Congress will face nothing.  Trump's indicted advisers will go to jail.  Weisman, Ohr, Stzruk, McCabe, Page, Comey, Yates, Rosenstein et al will face nothing, I assume, for corrupt, misleading investigations.



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new avenue for harassment
« Reply #939 on: February 11, 2019, 06:51:50 AM »
https://www.thedailybeast.com/mistress-lauren-sanchezs-brother-leaked-bezos-racy-texts-to-enquirer-sources-say-7

Next "the hassasers "  Nadler Schiff will be announcing an investigation into the connection between the brother of Sanchez and Trump.



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It is about time !
« Reply #941 on: February 19, 2019, 07:30:41 AM »
https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-deputy-attorney-general-step-082111079.html

should have been fired long time ago
now he needs to be investigated


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Could as Joe Digenova suggest - everyone take the 5th
« Reply #942 on: March 05, 2019, 10:39:11 AM »

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« Reply #943 on: March 05, 2019, 03:32:40 PM »
I'm in over my head on this, but that sure would be my first reaction.

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Fourth day ?
« Reply #944 on: March 06, 2019, 06:07:02 AM »
Wait , I thought it was going to be 3 days .

They must down to questions like , "Mr. Cohen , is it not true the Mr Trump serves Russian cavier at Mar  a Lago
Do you know how he got this cavier? 

https://hosted.ap.org/article/991f1295ab4d436f99e11b20fd1c433f/cohen-returns-capitol-hill-4th-day-testimony

Dershowitz on Hannity said that he thinks one of those 80 + plus people who have documents requested of them could bring a legal case claiming this is excessive political harassment.    The Framers may have intended Congress to have oversight they did not intend to abuse that oversight to continue to harass a duly elected President.

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« Reply #945 on: March 06, 2019, 06:35:30 AM »
I've not had a chance to deep dive into this (no rush, I figure, it looks to be around for a long time) but my understanding is that this is a fishing expedition into private business actions prior the campaign , , , Do I have this right?

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« Reply #946 on: March 06, 2019, 07:08:35 AM »
basically investigating everyone and anyone near Trump

I would say is fishing for anything that with their media accomplices
they can use to spin into a story that makes Trump look bad
get anyone to turn on him and further a case to impeach
and generally stall him from being able to do his work making America Great.
and of course have fodder propaganda for 2020.

the problem is we need to bring the case to judges who are honest and not policial Obama operatives.




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« Reply #948 on: March 06, 2019, 11:41:14 AM »
can't open NR article - asking for me to subscribe which I don't think is worth it except for McCarthy ad VDH.

The rest are all blowhards frankly

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Here you go- hope the formatting turns out OK:
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   The Forgotten Foot Soldiers of the ‘Resistance’
By Victor Davis Hanson

March 5, 2019 6:30 AM


We are still trying to fathom the apparent but transient palace-coup attempts of Rod Rosenstein and Andrew McCabe. No one has gotten to the bottom of the serial lying by McCabe and James Comey, much less their systematic and illegal leaking to pet reporters.

We do not know all the ways in which James Clapper and John Brennan seeded the dossier and its related gossip among the press and liberal politicians — only that both were prior admitted fabricators who respectively while under oath misled congressional representatives on a host of issues.

The central role of Hillary Clinton in funding the anti-Trump, Russian-“collusion,” Fusion/GPS/Christopher Steele dossier is still not fully disclosed. Did the deluded FISA court know it was being used by Obama-administration DOJ and FBI officials, who withheld from it evidence to ensure permission to spy on American citizens? Could any justice knowingly be so naïve?

Do we remember at all that Devin Nunes came to national prominence when he uncovered information that members of the Obama administration’s national-security team, along with others, had systematically unmasked surveilled Americans, whose names then were leaked illegally to the press?

One day historians will have the full story of how Robert Mueller stocked his legal team inordinately with partisans. He certainly did not promptly disclose the chronology of, or the interconnected reasons for, the firings of Lisa Page and Peter Strozk. And his team has largely used process-crime allegations to leverage mostly minor figures to divulge some sort of incriminating evidence about the president — none of it pertaining to the original mandated rationale of collusion.

These are the central issues and key players of this entire sordid attempt to remove a sitting president.

But we should remember there were dozens of other minor players who did their own parts in acting unethically, and in some cases illegally, to destroy a presidency. We have mostly forgotten them. But they reflect what can happen when Washington becomes unhinged, the media go berserk, and a reign of terror ensues in which any means necessary is redefined as what James Comey recently monetized as a “Higher Loyalty” to destroy an elected president.

Here are just a few of the foot soldiers we have forgotten.

Anonymous
On September 5, 2018 (a date seemingly picked roughly to coincide with the publication of Bob Woodward’s sensational tell-all book about the inside of the Trump White House), the New York Times printed a credo from a supposed anonymous Republican official deep within the Trump administration. In a supposed fit of ethical conviction, he (or she) warned the nation of the dangers it faced under his boss, President Trump, and admitted to a systematic effort to subvert his presidency:

    The dilemma — which he does not fully grasp — is that many of the senior officials in his own administration are working diligently from within to frustrate parts of his agenda and his worst inclinations. I would know. I am one of them.

Anonymous elaborated:

    Given the instability many witnessed, there were early whispers within the cabinet of invoking the 25th Amendment, which would start a complex process for removing the president. But no one wanted to precipitate a constitutional crisis. So we will do what we can to steer the administration in the right direction until — one way or another — it’s over.

We do not know whether Anonymous was describing the coup attempt as described by Andrew McCabe that apparently entailed Rod Rosenstein at the Justice Department informally polling cabinet officials, or marked a wider effort among Never Trump Republicans and deep-state functionaries to ensure that Trump failed — whether marked by earlier efforts to leak confidential calls with foreign officials or to serve up unsubstantiated rumors to muckrakers or simply slow-walk or ignore presidential directives.

In any case, Anonymous’s efforts largely explain why almost daily we hear yet another mostly unsubstantiated account that a paranoid, deranged, and dangerous Trump is holed up in his bedroom with his Big Macs as he plans unconstitutional measures to wreck the United States — and then, by accident, achieves near-record-low peacetime unemployment, near-record-low minority unemployment, annualized 3 percent GDP growth, record natural-gas and oil production, record deregulation, comprehensive tax reform and reduction, and foreign-policy breakthroughs from the destruction of ISIS to cancellation of the flawed Iran deal.

James Baker
In the course of congressional testimony, it was learned that the FBI general counsel, James Baker, for a time had been under investigation for leaking classified information to the press. Among the leaks were rumored scraps from the Steele dossier passed to Mother Jones reporter David Corn (who has denied any such connection) that may have fueled his sensational pre-election accusation of Trump–Russian collusion.

Nonetheless, about a week before the 2016 election, Corn of Mother Jones was writing lurid exposés, such as the following, to spread gossip likely inspired from the Christopher Steele dossier (italics inserted):

    Does this mean the FBI is investigating whether Russian intelligence has attempted to develop a secret relationship with Trump or cultivate him as an asset? Was the former intelligence officer and his material deemed credible or not?

    An FBI spokeswoman says, “Normally, we don’t talk about whether we are investigating anything.” But a senior US government official not involved in this case but familiar with the former spy tells Mother Jones that he has been a credible source with a proven record of providing reliable, sensitive, and important information to the US government. In June, the former Western intelligence officer — who spent almost two decades on Russian intelligence matters and who now works with a US firm that gathers information on Russia for corporate clients — was assigned the task of researching Trump’s dealings in Russia and elsewhere, according to the former spy and his associates in this American firm.

What does “assigned” mean, and by whom? That Fusion/GPS (which, in fact, is a generic opposition-research firm with no particular expertise in Russia) hired with disguised Clinton campaign funds a has-been foreign-national spy to buy dirt from Russian sources to subvert a presidential campaign?

Those leaks of Christopher Steele’s dirt also did their small part in planting doubt in voters’ minds right that electing Trump was tantamount to implanting a Russian asset in the White House. Baker has been the alleged center of a number of reported leaks, even though the FBI’s general counsel should have been the last person to disclose any government communication to the press during a heated presidential campaign. And there is still no accurate information concerning what role, if any, Baker played in Andrew McCabe’s efforts to discuss removing the president following the Comey firing.

Evelyn Farkas  (MARC: We discussed her here)
On March 1, 2017, just weeks after Trump took office, the New York Times revealed that. in a last-minute order, outgoing president Obama had vastly expanded the number of government officials with access to top-secret intelligence data. The Obama administration apparently sought to ensure a narrative spread that Trump may have colluded with the Russians. The day following the disclosure, a former Pentagon official, Evelyn Farkas (who might have been a source for the strange disclosure of a day earlier), explained Obama’s desperate eleventh-hour effort in an MSNBC interview:

    I was urging my former colleagues, and, and frankly speaking the people on the Hill . . . it was more actually aimed at telling the Hill people, get as much information as you can, get as much intelligence as you can before President Obama leaves the administration.

    Because I had a fear that somehow that information would disappear with the senior people who left so it would be hidden away in the bureaucracy, um, that the [stutters] Trump folks — if they found out how we knew what we knew about their [the] Trump staff, dealing with Russians — that they would try to compromise those sources and methods, meaning we no longer have access to that intelligence.

    So I became very worried because not enough was coming out into the open and I knew that there was more. We have very good intelligence on Russia, so then I had talked to some of my former colleagues and I knew that they were also trying to help get information to the Hill.

Despite media efforts to spin Farkas’s disclosure, she was essentially contextualizing how outgoing Obama officials were worried that the incoming administration would discover their own past efforts (”sources and methods”) to monitor and surveil Trump-campaign officials, and would seek an accounting. Her worry was not just that the dossier-inspired dirt would not spread after Trump took office, but that the Obama administration’s methods used to thwart Trump might be disclosed (e.g., “if they found out how we knew what we knew about their [the] Trump staff, dealing with Russians — that they would try to compromise those sources and methods, meaning we no longer have access to that intelligence”).

So Farkas et al. desperately sought to change the law so that their rumors and narratives would be so deeply seeded within the administrative state that the collusion narrative would inevitably lead to Congress and the press, and thereby overshadow any shock at the improper or illegal methods the Obama-administration officials had authorized to monitor the Trump campaign.

And Farkas was correct. Even today, urination in a Russian hotel room has overshadowed perjury traps, warping the FISA courts, illegal leaking, inserting a spy into the Trump campaign, and Russian collusion with Clinton hireling and foreign agent Christopher Steele.

Samantha Power
We now forget that for some reason, in her last year in office, but especially during and after the 2016 election, Power, the outgoing U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, reportedly asked to unmask the names of over 260 Americans picked up in government surveillance. She offered no real explanations of such requests.

Even stranger than a U.N. ambassador suddenly playing the role of a counterintelligence officer, Power continued her requests literally until the moments before Trump took office in January 2017. And, strangest of all, after Power testified before the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, Representative Trey Gowdy reported that “her testimony is ‘they [the unmasking requests] may be under my name, but I did not make those requests.’”

Who, in the world, then, did make those requests and why and, if true, did she know she was so being used?

And were some of those unmasking requests leaked, thus helping to fuel media rumors in late 2016 and early 2017 that Trump officials were veritable traitors in league with Russia? And why were John Brennan, James Clapper, Susan Rice, and Sally Yates reportedly in the last days (or, in some cases, the last hours) requesting that the names of Americans swept up in surveillance of others be unmasked? What was the point of it all?

In sum, did a U.N. ambassador let her name be used by aides or associates to spread rumors throughout the administrative state, and thereby brand them with classified government authenticity, and then all but ensure they were leaked to the press?

We the public most certainly wondered why the moment Trump was elected, the very name Carter Page became synonymous with collusion, and soon Michael Flynn went from a respected high-ranking military official to a near traitor, as both were announced as emblematic of their erstwhile complicit boss.

Ali Watkins and James Wolf
Watkins was the young reporter for Buzzfeed (which initially leaked the largely fake Steele dossier and erroneously reported that Michael Cohen would implicate Trump in suborning perjury) who conducted an affair with James Wolf, a staffer, 30 years her senior, on the Senate Intelligence Committee.

Wolf, remember, systematically and illegally began leaking information to her that found its way into sensationalized stories about collusion. But as Margot Cleveland of the Federalist pointed out, Watkins was also identified by Buzzfeed “in court filings as one of the individuals who ‘conducted newsgathering in connection with the Dossier before Buzzfeed published the Article’ on the dossier. This fact raises the question of whether Watkins received information from Wolfe concerning the dossier and, if so, what he leaked.”

In other words, the dossier was probably planted among U.S. senators and deliberately leaked through a senior Senate aide, who made sure that the unverified dirt was published by the press to damage Donald Trump.

And it did all that and more.

The list of these bit players could be easily expanded. These satellites were not coordinated in some tight-knit vast conspiracy, but rather took their cue from their superiors and the media to freelance with assumed impunity, as their part in either preventing or ending a Trump presidency. And no doubt the Left would argue that the sheer number of federal bureaucrats and political appointees, in a variety of cabinets and agencies, throughout the legislative and the executive branches, all proves that Trump is culpable of something.

Perhaps. But the most likely explanation is that a progressive administrative state, a liberal media, and an increasingly radicalized liberal order were terrified by the thought of an outsider Trump presidency. Therefore, they did what they could, often both unethically and illegally, to stop his election, and then to subvert his presidency.
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In their arrogance, they assumed that their noble professions of higher loyalties and duties gave them exemption to do what they deemed necessary and patriotic. And others like them will continue to do so, thereby setting the precedent that unelected federal officials can break the law or violate any ethical protocols they please — if they disagree with the ideology of the commander in chief. We ridicule Trump for going ballistic at each one of these periodically leaked and planted new stories that raised some new charge about his stupidity, insanity, incompetence, etc. But no one has before witnessed any president subjected to such a comprehensive effort of the media, the deep state, political opponents, and his own party establishment to destroy him.

Subversion is the new political opposition. The nation — and the Left especially — will come to regret the legacy of the foot soldiers of the Resistance in the decades to come.

Victor Davis Hanson — NRO contributor Victor Davis Hanson is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution and the author, most recently, of The Case for Trump. @vdhanson