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Re: 2024
« Reply #700 on: August 30, 2023, 06:49:10 AM »
"Republican candidates need to be running against the policies, not the person who is about to disappear."

THIS.

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2024, best pro Trump column I have read
« Reply #701 on: August 30, 2023, 07:02:36 AM »
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/aug/29/why-trump-winning-gop-primary-handily/
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Great half of an article summarizing everything Trump did right. Missing the half of an article on everything he did wrong.

From the article: 
"When Mr. Trump left office, gas prices were $2.38 a gallon, the inflation rate was 1.3%, and a 30-year-fixed mortgage interest rate was 2.77%."


Article goes on to mention moving the embassy (Israel), great trade agreements and building the wall.  It reads just like our exhaustive Trump accomplishments thread.

It points out nearly all the current candidates plan to continue those policies, so why not just elect the real thing.

Why not?  Well that's the part they omitted.  Trump couldn't keep his personal flaws out of it.  Hated virtually everyone on his own team at one point or another, all the way up to his Vice President, and he made those fights personal and public.

He excites only half the Republican base, but nearly all the Democrats and a majority of Independence to vote against him.

The author admits the other candidates would pursue the same policies and omits the outright admission on Trump's part (just by his third candidacy) that it takes more than one term to do this.

Whoever else rises to the top will also be attacked by the media and deep state regime.  But the BS like the Steele Dossier would not be believed if it was Haley or DeSantis. Neither of those would have had hush money payments to Stormy Daniels to cover up. Neither of those would have stirred up a riot at the Capitol. And so on.

With desantis, they say he was banning books in schools, but then we find out he was banning pornography taught to little children. Charges like those don't have the same lasting power.
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Re: 2024
« Reply #703 on: August 30, 2023, 01:42:03 PM »
Backhanded compliment.  Trump praising Vivek means he does not see him as even a potential threat.

Imagine current polling is 60-40 Trump over Vivek.  What names would he have for him, little dick vivek or worse?

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Re: 2024
« Reply #704 on: August 30, 2023, 01:58:59 PM »
they are both using one another.

Being a VP is normally quite an honor

but doing so for Trump is not.

so many magas still yelling and screaming all sorts of nonsense about trump

he is the only one who can do this , do that, such as end Ukraine overnight
he is the greatest pres of the 21st century - weird comment if you ask me
and if elected again could become the greatest in history

these people are nuts

same people screaming about Biden being a liar as is his whole administration (true no doubt) also love DJT -
no mention he is also a gigantic liar

how can we get out of this Trump curse?

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A Soft Show Shuffle Dance
« Reply #705 on: August 31, 2023, 10:30:12 AM »
Trump ripped DeSantis today on electricity rates in Florida.  Accusation is that Florida power and light gave a 9 million campaign contribution and DeSantis raised electricity rates. Pretty hard to believe that that charge isn't easily answered.  Electric prices are going up because of federal mandates.

But if DeSantis fights back in kind, he will turn a huge number of voters he needs to attract against him, even more than they already are.

DeSantis needs to keep his focus on the run for president, the run against Biden and the machine and the policies, and leave the hitting of trump to others, not even surrogates.

Clay and Buck, the guys taking the rush time slot, started in ever so delicately today on this.

The point was made that Trump can't win Georgia and Republicans can't win without Georgia.  They went to Great lengths to show that all Republicans except Trump and the Trump selected Senate candidates performed better and won, while Trump lost.  Begs the question, why would Democrats cheat on just part of the ballot - on hundreds of thousands of ballots? It makes no sense.  And what kind of organized cheat doesn't have Stacy Abrams in on it? Again, makes no sense.

Now imagine you are a conservative radio host and your audience is pulling 50 Trump to 20 DeSantis. No matter what you think personally, there is no way you are going to endorse either, much less the latter.

So they closed it by saying we are only trying to help Trump win by pointing out the problem and suggesting he make peace with popular Gov Kemp, etc.

But the point is out there.  Trump can't win Georgia, lost three in a row there counting the Senate as once each time, and trails in state polling there now.

No one said it, but how about we put someone else at the top of the ticket and start winning again before it's too late.

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Re: 2024
« Reply #706 on: August 31, 2023, 11:20:32 AM »
"Clay and Buck, the guys taking the rush time slot, started in ever so delicately today on this."

makes me wonder what Rush would have done.

I suspect he too would be virulent Trump supporter
especially after getting M of Freedom.

would rush have kept pressing for the candidate that may most likely lose?

like Mark Levin (who hedges when it comes to DeSantis )

food for thought

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Re: 2024
« Reply #707 on: August 31, 2023, 12:05:31 PM »
Rush was a good friend of trump and they had things in common, but I thought he was careful when it came down to Trump and Cruz to be respectful of his listeners on both sides of that. You commit to one, and you lose the others. That was not his business plan and he saw the radio show as a business. He also saw before we did that Trump could win in 2016. That doesn't mean he would see Trump's path to victory now. His show would be without substance if he did not cover the points of merit on both sides of a conservative contest. My humble opinion.
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Re: 2024
« Reply #708 on: August 31, 2023, 01:33:44 PM »
"But if DeSantis fights back in kind, he will turn a huge number of voters he needs to attract against him, even more than they already are. 
DeSantis needs to keep his focus on the run for president, the run against Biden and the machine and the policies, and leave the hitting of trump to others, not even surrogates."

IMHO DeSantis erred in not responding to Trump's attacks on the National Sales Tax vote, comparing his Wuhan performance to Cuomo, and the like.  The whole point is that Trump makes needless enemies and by so doing irritates the hell out of American voters.  If DeS. is too chickenshit to say that he has not a chance.

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Re: 2024
« Reply #709 on: September 01, 2023, 03:06:01 AM »

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« Reply #710 on: September 01, 2023, 08:25:22 AM »
https://pjmedia.com/columns/victor-davis-hanson/2023/09/01/from-one-unapologetic-media-hoax-to-the-next-n1723688

as always summarizes the situation better than anyone I know .

" So will we at last expect the media finally to confront the truth?

Answer — only if Joe Biden’s cognitive and physical health continues to deteriorate geometrically to the point that he can no longer finish his term or run for reelection — and thus becomes expendable."


I would also add they will not turn on Joe for as long as they can, to keep him from being a lame duck, and only will if they can come up with alternative that polls better than him such as Newsom. Till then Joe will be propped up like a mummy in sarcophagus .

As for Newsom I am not clear how he polls but for sure this is being  looked at by the shysters . Fact they are not saying anything publicly certainly says mountains . 

https://www.betcalifornia.com/gavin-newsom-odds

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another opinion writer dares speak the truth
« Reply #711 on: September 02, 2023, 07:24:39 AM »
https://patriotpost.us/opinion/100148-republicans-stop-the-self-defeating-victimology-2023-09-01

wake the heck up Trump heads !  :wink:

PS: to Dick Morris - I don't care you want another campaign job, I want to win.
 go away you opportunist sycophant ! 

promotes Clinton a dem now Trump - obviously a self serving opportunist
I don't care what he says anymore
remember he also told us romney would win and we would do great in '22 both total blunders which he seems to ignore when he does same for '24.

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DeSantis vs Biden
« Reply #712 on: September 02, 2023, 09:14:56 AM »

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dick morris
« Reply #713 on: September 03, 2023, 07:40:53 AM »
no sooner did I post my distaste for Dick
I read some more chapters on Doug Schoen's book including one in which he calls Morris a political genius show he learned a great deal from him when he was asked to work with him in 1969.

He and others including Jerry Nadler came out of upper East Side high school together . Morris helped Jerrod Nadler win the high school president job. He roomed with Nads @ Columbia .
 
Morris worked the upper West Side Democrat party  in his early 20s with polling and working with a Mid Town Irish Democrat political machine.

They were all crats in NYC which was 2 to 1 Democrat

Schoen helped Republicans Guliani and Bloomberg win in a Democrat town , thought impossible.

Book started slow but had piqued my interest now I am over half way through.  It is an easy read.


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Re: 2024
« Reply #714 on: September 03, 2023, 02:21:51 PM »
"Morris worked the upper West Side Democrat party  in his early 20s with polling and working with a Mid Town Irish Democrat political machine."

If I am not mistaken this is where Bella Abzug, who co-chaired a committee with my mother in the 17th CD (Silk Stocking district; Upper East Side, district from which John Lindsay and Ed Koch started out as Congressmen) wound up.


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Latinos for Trump video
« Reply #716 on: September 04, 2023, 05:54:55 PM »

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2024
« Reply #717 on: September 05, 2023, 02:39:57 PM »
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2023/09/biden-vs-trump-by-the-numbers.php

John Hinderaker

BIDEN VS. TRUMP, BY THE NUMBERS
The Wall Street Journal reported yesterday on its own extensive poll on Joe Biden and Donald Trump. The article begins:

Voters overwhelmingly think President Biden is too old to run for re-election and give him low marks for handling the economy and other issues important to their vote, according to a new Wall Street Journal poll that offers a stark warning to the 80-year-old incumbent ahead of the 2024 contest.

Specifically:

73% of voters said they feel Biden is too old to seek a second term, compared with 47% of voters who said the same of the 77-year-old Trump. Two-thirds of Democrats said Biden was too old to run again.

Emphasis added. And, remarkably, only 36% of respondents think Biden is “mentally up for the job.”

Biden also scores poorly on the issues. He is under water on the economy, 37%/59%, with respondents saying the economy has gotten worse rather than better in the last two years by 58%/28%. Biden is under water on inflation and the cost of living, 34%/63%, and on the border, 30%/63%.

So voters think Biden is too old to run, isn’t mentally capable of being president, and has done a terrible job on the economy and the border. With those numbers he can’t possibly be re-elected, right?

Wrong, if he runs against Donald Trump. The Journal poll finds the two men tied at 46%/46%, despite Biden’s horrific drawbacks. Why? Voters think Biden is more likable and more honest, and a lot of them think Trump is too old and not up to the job, either. And, of course, a great number of them simply hate Trump, for various reasons.

Also, if you wonder how Biden can possibly be competitive, part of the answer is that Democrats don’t care about the same things you do:

Democrats plan to rally supporters behind issues such as abortion rights, which proved a key factor in the party outperforming expectations in the 2022 midterm elections. Abortion was the top priority among Democrats in the Journal poll, with 16% naming it as the issue most important to their 2024 vote, ahead of the economy and climate, which each stood at 12%

Now that abortion has been returned to the states, it makes no sense for it to be your number one priority in a presidential candidate. Nevertheless, this is where we are.

But here is the point: the Democrats aren’t going to nominate Joe Biden. They are just hoping he can limp through the next year so they don’t have to deal with Kamala Harris. Gavin Newsom is 25 years younger than Biden, isn’t burdened with Biden’s record in office or his growing scandals, and is a far more plausible demagogue and liar than Biden. If nominated, as I think he will be, and if Trump is the GOP nominee, Newsom will crush him. The only Democrat against whom Trump can run a competitive race is Joe Biden. If Newsom or another lesser-known figure is the Democrats’ nominee, Republicans can only hope that our current red state/blue state polarization insulates us against a 1964-style rout, although the House would surely be lost.
The Democrats have long been known as the Evil Party, while Republicans are the Stupid Party. In 2024, I expect the Democrats to continue being evil, but they won’t be stupid. Let’s hope the Republicans aren’t stupid either.
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Haley leads in polls
« Reply #718 on: September 07, 2023, 08:04:25 AM »
caveat CNN poll.

like I said before she is not my first choice but I want to win:

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4191620-biden-trails-haley-polling-neck-and-neck-with-other-republicans/

That said I still do not think the candidate will be Biden.

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Re: 2024
« Reply #719 on: September 07, 2023, 08:16:31 AM »
(I see ccp already posted same poll.)

I was traveling with Democrats during the first debate, plan to watch it later. Went to various searches and it said register to watch and I declined. What morons the RNC are to allow viewership to be constrained.

Polling is still so early that it's almost meaningless, and CNN is not the most reliable, but current results may surprise people.  Most voters did not see the debate but perceptions matter anyway.

General Election:   CNN
Biden 46, Trump 47
Biden 47, DeSantis 47
Biden 46, Ramaswamy 45
Biden 43, Haley 49
Biden 44, Pence 46
Biden 44, Scott 46
Christie 44, Biden 42
Wednesday, September 6

(Doug)  Lesson number one, if you're a Democrat get Biden off the ticket.

DeSantis pulling no better than Trump, but all he has had is negative attacks, no positive introduction.

Pence and Tim Scott, surprisingly good.

Nikki Haley steals the show.

Biden approval with blacks is down 30 points from 82% at the start to 52% now.

The political game in divided America now comes down to suburban women. 

Maybe Nikki Haley has a chance with them.

If this poll means anything, Vivek is disqualified; he is the only one losing to Biden.  And get Asa Hutchinson off the stage.

I heard Chris Christie this morning. Without pushback he might convince someone of something. He bragged how he got things done in New Jersey, defeated an incumbent Democrat and had 60% approval by re-election. No mention of his approval (disapproval)at the end of his term.  Would he win New Jersey? No.

Someone remind me why we don't like Nikki Haley. Too soft on the border? She would have to be tough on the border to win the nomination, and would be crazy to not finish that job if elected.

Two term Governor plus foreign policy statesmanship experience as UN ambassador.  Presents herself well. I call that qualified.  Tied to Trump.  Separated herself from Trump.

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Re: 2024
« Reply #720 on: September 07, 2023, 08:32:28 AM »

and like John F. Kelly had the integrity not to come out bashing about Trump later
like Barr, Bolton, Scaramucchi (sp.?). and that aid who worked with Trump and testified against him at the Congressional 1/6 kangaroo court and now works at CNN, and others.

" Separated herself from Trump "

as an aside -

my feeling about John Kelly is he is a man of honor, integrity , a patriot who is the type of people we need in politics and the military - and all the Big Mouth could do was to bash him.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_F._Kelly




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Re: 2024
« Reply #722 on: September 11, 2023, 07:23:08 AM »
No one for freedom is pro tariff. Trump tariffs were taxes on American businesses and consumers.  The tariff strategy was to get China to remove theirs - and it didn't work for a number of reasons.  The strategy was interrupted by covid and the fact that Trump wasn't reelected.

Two sides to this coin.  Tariffs bad, standing up to China, necessary.

DeSantis should take it as further evidence Trump sees him coming in his rear view mirror.

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Re: 2024
« Reply #723 on: September 11, 2023, 07:51:05 AM »
I liked Nikkis response in Hoover interview about China

she basically states what we all know :

China is at war with us
and we must respond in kind!

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Re: 2024, Democratic ticket
« Reply #724 on: September 11, 2023, 09:04:14 AM »
Strange view from the Left, pick the most bland and non controversial ticket.  From his view, keep the focus on anti-trump, not Democratic scandals or extremists.  He goes through all the usual names and their flaws, then picks these:

"A Democratic dream ticket in the mold of Joe Biden would be Gov. Andy Beshear of Kentucky for president (age: 45), and Gina Riamondo, former governor of Rhode Island and current commerce secretary (age: 52) as vice president. Both are pragmatic, centrist Democrats who have demonstrated the ability to mobilize moderates and independents."
https://www.salon.com/2023/09/11/what-if-biden-bows-out/
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(Doug). He's right about this, so for sure they won't do it.

Americans deserve two choices on the ballot that are not wild eyed crazy radical right or left.

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Re: 2024
« Reply #725 on: September 11, 2023, 02:12:05 PM »
this part is becoming totally annoying to me:


"Chief among them is the certainty that the Republicans and their media outlets will go all-in to raise doubts about Biden's age

Again we let the Dems control the wording of the problem

It is not his age.

Darn it - the guy is clearly SENILE !!!

Why are the conservative media going along with the word "age"?

We need to start saying he is senile which he clearly is.
I don't give s hoot what some partial personal president doctors say " he is fit to serve"

We all can see that is crap .

SENILE , SENILE, SENILE, SENILE - repeat after me media :  "S-E-N-I-L-E" !

thank you



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Re: 2024
« Reply #726 on: September 11, 2023, 02:14:04 PM »
PS :

this can't wait till next yr

yeah I know Kamala .  But they picked her so let her be President - get it over with

she like Biden will be controlled by all the Clinton/Obama mobs anyway ....

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Re: 2024
« Reply #727 on: September 11, 2023, 03:20:20 PM »
Excellent point, let's not allow them to conflate age with senility. Age is a different issue, stamina etc, can he or she handle the demands of the job, assuming they are otherwise competent.

Old can mean wise or experienced.

Senility is a form of incompetence, and creates vulnerability to being manipulated or controlled by others.  Cf. the last two and a half years.

I would also caution against playing the senile card. In the first debate 2000,Biden beat expectations. The bar is even lower now. A record number of people came out to vote against Trump. That's what they want in a candidate.  No reason to think that won't happen again.

We need to go after the policies, no matter who is on the ticket.

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Re: 2024
« Reply #728 on: September 11, 2023, 03:30:41 PM »
"We need to go after the policies, no matter who is on the ticket."

THIS!!!

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Re: 2024
« Reply #729 on: September 12, 2023, 06:16:56 AM »
my concern is that the LEFT always seizes control of the wording

"age" is used (as mentioned by Laura last night) instead of cognitive impairment, senility , dementia for a reason

and that is solely because Trump is old too.

So if Biden is too old then Trump is also by association

notice how miraculously almost all at once the LEFT media comes out using word "age"?

I think we need both - attack his lack of cognition and his policies - all of it.

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Re: 2024
« Reply #730 on: September 12, 2023, 06:44:35 AM »
Exactly so.

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Re: 2024
« Reply #731 on: September 13, 2023, 02:53:38 PM »
Intriguing comment by Jesse Waters today on The Five:

The gist being that the author of the POTP op ed piece that has the chattering class chattering calling for Magoo to not run again is a proven CIA mouthpiece e.g. major player in bringing down Fllynn, the lap top was Russian intel, the Steele dossier was good etc.  JW suggested that the timing of the play here implies that the CIA is nervous about what the impeachment inquiry will find out ABOUT THEM.


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Byron York read on the Ignatius opinion article
« Reply #733 on: September 14, 2023, 06:44:14 AM »
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/establishment-voice-calls-for-harris-to-quit-biden-too

His bottom line"

"That's what this column — "President Biden should not run again in 2024" — is really about. Yes, voters think Biden is too old to be president. But that would be OK if he just had a better vice president. Harris, however, is a terrible vice president. But she can't be dumped because of identity politics inside the Democratic Party. So better that Biden goes and takes Harris with him. That is the only way to solve the party's Harris problem without setting off war over the 2024 ticket."

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Re: Byron York read on the Ignatius opinion article
« Reply #734 on: September 14, 2023, 07:33:13 AM »

"That's what this column — "President Biden should not run again in 2024" — is really about. Yes, voters think Biden is too old to be president. But that would be OK if he just had a better vice president. Harris, however, is a terrible vice president. But she can't be dumped because of identity politics inside the Democratic Party. So better that Biden goes and takes Harris with him. That is the only way to solve the party's Harris problem without setting off war over the 2024 ticket.


If Biden drops out, does that take out Harris too?  I guess she would enter the primaries as a presidential candidate (if she wants to). The machine would have to decide whether to destroy her or not. What are they going to offer her, a supreme court seat? I don't think so.
 Wouldn't the eventual nominee also be under pressure to renominate her as running mate?  No one on their side admits she's a failure.  Just that she hasn't caught on, PR etc.
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Re: 2024
« Reply #735 on: September 14, 2023, 08:23:46 AM »
Agree Doug

polling differentiation on K's "favorability"

https://www.latimes.com/projects/kamala-harris-approval-rating-polls-vs-biden-other-vps/

'No one on their side admits she's a failure.  Just that she hasn't caught on, PR etc."

right

in my artilce link posted above :

"Since taking office, Harris has been assigned one of the administration’s thorniest issues: stemming the influx of immigrants attempting to cross U.S. borders. Republicans have sought to make her the face of an issue that they believe could help them politically.

After taking on that role, Harris’ approval ratings began to decline, with unfavorable opinions surpassing favorable ones in June 2021"

[ oh that is the reason - beyond her control  :roll: :|]

Look at gender and racial and party differences on favorability

What has been her qualification prior to being VP or since after serious failures in performance in even simply speaking intelligently?

We know the answer  :wink:

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Re: 2024
« Reply #736 on: September 14, 2023, 08:54:38 AM »
I underline the point made here the other day:

Tis' easy to tee off on Magoo for senility, and important to do so for his being corrupt and compromised, but most of all the focus needs to be on the issues so what when we face someone else, the foundation is already laid, and so that if/when we win we have an actual mandate.

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Re: 2024
« Reply #737 on: September 14, 2023, 09:25:14 AM »
good point

the article illustrate the "approval" of a VP is also closely tied to the approval of the President

so you and Doug's points on this makes total sense for the best strategy



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Re: 2024
« Reply #740 on: September 16, 2023, 06:46:01 AM »
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/sep/15/trump-builds-better-machine-campaign-team-and-admi/?utm_source=Boomtrain&utm_medium=subscriber&utm_campaign=evening&utm_term=evening&utm_content=evening&bt_ee=LkNTEsSeFI3pN6CzhTn0TRKw7DC9uv0%2B14U%2BBoKp%2FdbAuFWU35YNcJbkzbh5kCys&bt_ts=1694820635019

"Trump burned through 92% of his executive staff over four years. The lion’s share of the departures came over his first two years on the job.

He also lost 14 of his Cabinet members including three chiefs of staff — Mr. Priebus, John Kelly, and Mick Mulvaney — and blew through security advisers and press secretaries."


We need a proven team builder and leader for this job, And we most certainly need an 8 year, 16 year plan.  Is this the person who can do it?

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The Reuters/Ipsos poll
« Reply #741 on: September 16, 2023, 07:31:48 AM »
https://dailycaller.com/2023/09/15/joe-biden-swing-state-trump/

The part Trump's ego will gloat over 24/7 - "some polls have me ahead of Biden by a lot "   [in key swing states.]

The part he will ignore.  He is ahead with only 41% of the vote ( like I was thinking his only chance of winning is if the opponent is worse and Biden is 35%.)

Another part Trump will ignore is 24% are undecided but of the undecided he is behind 49% to 38 %

The only temporarily good thing is this after the poll -  all of MSNBC PBS CBS ABC CNN WP NYT ==>.   will :cry: :cry: :cry:

BOTTOM LINE ->
I agree with Doug's post above
Trump is NOT the answer.

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Liz Cheney's TDS continues - another DTS book
« Reply #743 on: September 20, 2023, 09:17:07 AM »
"Oath and Honor" — billed as a memoir and "urgent warning"   

""gripping first-hand account from inside the halls of Congress as Donald Trump and his enablers betrayed the American people and the Constitution ... by the House Republican leader who dared to stand up to it."

What could be in here we don't already know up and down inside out internally externally

I agree DJT is a problem but the enemy is the Democrat Party
Another  :roll: anti Trump book is not going to change anyone's mind.

https://www.istockphoto.com/video/waste-of-time-gm473008659-20664477

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Baier vs. Trump
« Reply #744 on: September 21, 2023, 07:49:41 AM »
Super tough question by Bret 17:20-20:45

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWxfmM-9bDw
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Re: 2024
« Reply #745 on: September 21, 2023, 08:17:54 AM »
Yes, I saw this somewhere prior.

Good questions - direct right to the point and even mentions "narcissism" adjective !  :-D

He simply changes the subject, throws out all the great things he did do, states for every critic  there "10" and later  makes it "20" times more people love me.

 :roll:

The most important numbers are his favorable ratings are always well less than 50% - I wish Bret asked him about that number .
Fortunately the Dems do not as yet have a strong candidate so we have a chance but not without this person sweating it out till post election.


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Re: 2024
« Reply #747 on: September 25, 2023, 07:48:53 AM »
Here's an additional thought: 

Trump is clearly distinguishing himself on abortion, calling DeSantis's 6 week standard "clearly a great error" or something like that. 
Regardless of where we individually stand on what the standard should be, it seems clear that this issue really hurt Reps in the 2022 elections and DeSantis has failed to take an off ramp on this when he could have said he opposes a federal standard.

DeSantis has also failed to articulate a vision on geopolitics, pretty much saying nothing since he scuttled back from calling Ukraine "a territorial dispute.

The point is supporting DeSantis is that he would be more likely to beat Biden than Trump.

At this moment that does not appear to be the case.



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Re: 2024
« Reply #749 on: September 25, 2023, 11:18:29 AM »
I am very skeptical of this sudden poll that has Trump up by 9 to 10 points

I don't believe it.

First it comes from an enemy poll source.

Second it comes out just *before the second Republican debate* essentially wiping out one of the biggest reasons other candidates ability to market themselves as better positioned to beat Biden then Trump.

Third , I suspect it may be done for 2 reasons

1) to wake up the Biden administration that they need to do something about immigration and inflation as they are losing grounds in polls
2) to insure that Trump is the nominee

We know the Don will be going around beating his chest like a teenage gorilla bloviating how great he is ....  with this.....

I just don't believe it.
We shall see with other polls coming likely after the debate ,....