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[Far Left] They're getting the [George Floyd riots] band back together with another phony, wrong headed cause.

If it succeeds, it will tear apart the Democrat Party.

Do you think any of these kooks will come to Chicago for the convention?

In the George Floyd riots, they [the Far Left and everyone who joined them] were fighting Democrat power as well, Democrat-run cities and police departments.

No Republican-run cities were affected (because there aren't any).


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Freitas: Will the Right Retaliate
« Reply #2002 on: May 01, 2024, 07:40:22 AM »
second

Have not watched this yet:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cS8dAj9kxRQ


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1460 (and counting) to 1
« Reply #2004 on: May 14, 2024, 09:01:25 PM »
The number of JC convictions to the number of BLM rioters convicted:

https://x.com/julie_kelly2/status/1790551714057142347?s=61


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Not if it’s a clip of Nancy Pelosi stating contemporaneously she failed to prepare adequately for Jan. 6 that Pelosi’s daughter recorded and shared with HBO:

https://legalinsurrection.com/2024/06/pelosi-on-jan-6-video-i-take-responsibility-for-not-having-the-national-guard-there/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=pelosi-on-jan-6-video-i-take-responsibility-for-not-having-the-national-guard-there

A little late (almost 4 years) in the J6 blame game ... but we'll take it!

Nancy Pelisi's fault.  Their presence instead of embedded rabble rousers would have prevented all that

But preventing it from happening wasn't what they wanted.

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« Reply #2008 on: June 14, 2024, 08:48:31 AM »
(4) “OPERATION CAMPUS FLOOD” TO BOOST CAMPUS PROTESTS: Pro-Palestine activists are calling for an escalation in Bay Area campus protests and occupations under a campaign called “Operation Campus Flood.”

Organizers are calling for a week of autonomous action for the greater San Francisco Bay, California-area college campuses.
An article published in left wing media calls for the “liberation” of books and computers from college libraries; the expropriation of materials needed to build and sustain a larger escalation; the seizure of buildings; and asks whether a “direct attack” will be required.
Why It Matters: While this is initially limited to the Bay Area, two factors could lead to other regions adopting Campus Flood-type escalations. First, the pro-Palestine protests are organized by a national network of activist groups like Palestinian Youth Movement and Students for Justice in Palestine, and political organizations like Democratic Socialists of America. Successful tactics and strategies spread to other parts of the country through these national organizations. And second, escalation is a core part of left wing doctrine, i.e., when one tactic isn’t working, escalate until it starts working. We did see this in the beginning of the campus protests: when mere encampments weren’t working, students began taking over campus buildings, reminiscent of the 1968 occupations against the Vietnam Conflict. Being that these protests are not having the intended effect, left wing groups will typically escalate into more disruptive or violent demonstrations. We may see culminating action in the fall when students return to school. – M.S.

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When the Narrative Needs a Murder they Make One
« Reply #2009 on: June 19, 2024, 06:37:21 PM »
They are shameless in the fictions they create and the real murders they ignore:

Who Had Capitol Police Officer Brian Sicknick ‘Murdered’?
His reported ‘death by fire extinguisher’ was no accident. Congress needs to find out pronto who ordered the hit.

by JACK CASHILL

June 18, 2024, 10:45 PM

A memorial for Capitol Police Officer Brian Sicknick (Nicole Glass Photography/Shutterstock)

This plot seems too diabolical to be true, but true it is. Late in the day of January 7, 2021, unknown operatives within the D.C. establishment made the conscious decision to have Capitol Police officer Brian Sicknick “murdered.” Two of them relayed the news of the Sicknick murder to the New York Times. Reporters Zolan Kanno-Youngs and Tracey Tulley described these operatives as “law enforcement officials.”

Babbitt was, in fact, one of four protestors to die that day, three as a result of police action.

In the unrevised version from January 8, 2021, the reporters told Times readers that “pro-Trump rioters … struck [Sicknick] in the head with a fire extinguisher.” For authenticity’s sake they added this chilling detail: “With a bloody gash in his head, Mr. Sicknick was rushed to the hospital and placed on life support.”

To secure Sicknick’s status as a martyr to the cause of democracy, the operatives saw to it that Sicknick’s cremated remains were laid in honor in the Capitol Rotunda. The previous last American to be so honored was Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg and, before her, civil rights hero John Lewis. Sicknick’s remains were then buried with full honors at Arlington National Cemetery. He had served six years in the Air National Guard.

In analyzing a given event, it is sometimes hard to distinguish conspiracy from incompetence. In this case, incompetence led to conspiracy. At 2:44 p.m. on January 6, a panicky Capitol Police officer, Lt. Michael Byrd, ignored all standard police protocol and fatally shot 35-year-old Ashli Babbitt, a 14-year Air Force veteran. This shooting was part of no one’s plan. (READ MORE from Jack Cashill: First, They Came for the J6ers)

Byrd was positioned on the far side of the heavily barricaded doors leading to the House lobby. On the exposed side stood three Capitol Police officers. A few minutes before the shooting, Babbit had walked by herself down the long, narrow corridor leading to the lobby doors.

Following her was citizen journalist Tayler Hansen who recorded her movements. Hansen offered the officers some water, while Babbitt joked with them. These were her people. She had spent most of her military career in police work.

Within a minute or two, a trailing crowd of roughly thirty people quickly filled up the hallway behind Babbitt. In that crowd was Zachary Alam, thirty, a repeat offender with no social media ties to Donald Trump or MAGA. Alam moved to the front of the crowd, reached between the officers, and began punching the glass panels while yelling, “F*** the blue.”

Appalled by Alam’s behavior, Ashli’s police training kicked in. “Call f***ing back-up!” she shouted at the feckless officers as they stood in place with their backs to the doors, doing nothing. “She was basically yelling at these officers telling them to do their jobs,” said Hansen.

For more than a minute after the first window was cracked, protestors argued with the officers but did not touch them or threaten them. Nor did they smash any more windows. In a subsequent press release the Department of Justice (DOJ) observed, “Eventually, the three USCP officers positioned outside the doors were forced to evacuate.” The video does not bear this out at all. The officers were not in any imminent danger.

As soon as the officers pulled away, Alam grabbed a helmet from a protestor and broke out all the glass from the transom on far the right side. “Ashli was actively trying to disarm these people,” said Hansen, “trying to calm them down through this entire kind of confrontation with these police officers.”

After yelling for Alam to stop, Ashli took matters into her own hands, literally. A southpaw, she yanked at Alam’s backpack with her right hand. As he spun around, she slugged him square in the face with her left fist. His glasses flew off on impact.

Fleeing the madness, Ashli hopped with some assistance into the window frame now fully free of glass. Only a person as small as she could have managed that feat. Just seven seconds after she slugged Alam, said Hansen, “Michael Leroy Byrd ended up issuing the kill shot with no verbal warning.”

Complicating matters for the operatives was that the shot had been recorded by John Earle Sullivan, a black provocateur with BLM roots. Sensing a payday for his footage, Sullivan had his agent contact CNN on January 6 and enter into a one-week agreement for use of the critical forty-four seconds. CNN paid him $35,000.

This video undermined the Democrat narrative. Babbitt was, in fact, one of four protestors to die that day, three as a result of police action, but her death was the most visible. The shooting of a petite, attractive, unarmed young Air Force veteran made it difficult to sell the saga of heroic police officers fending off a rabid mob, especially since all the dead were J6ers, and none of the police was seriously injured.

Sara Carpenter, one of ten women I profile in my new book, Ashli: The Untold Story of the Women of January 6, shed unwitting light on the plot to “murder” Sicknick. A medically retired NYPD officer, Carpenter was driving back to New York after her day at the Capitol when she called an old friend who lived in Maryland.

When Carpenter mentioned where she had been that day, her friend started screaming at her, “You killed somebody,” the “you” referring to the protestors. “You killed a Capitol Police officer with a fire extinguisher.” The friend’s husband had once been a Capitol Police officer. Carpenter presumed he had inside information.“It sent me reeling,” she told me.

Fortunately for the operatives, the 42-year-old Sicknick just happened to die on January 7 from a stroke. They then wedded Sicknick’s real death to the fire extinguisher rumor and commissioned the aforementioned “law enforcement officials” to sell this cruel fiction to the New York Times. It appeared under the shocking headline, “He Dreamed of Being a Police Officer, Then Was Killed by a Pro-Trump Mob.”

Independent journalist Glenn Greenwald made a screen shot of the Times account before it could be revised. “This horrifying story about a pro-Trump mob beating a police officer to death was repeated over and over, by multiple journalists on television, in print, and on social media,” said Greenwald. He called this counterfeit murder “the single most-emphasized and known story of the event.” It cowed the entire GOP into silence.

The D.C. medical examiner’s office performed Sicknick’s autopsy on January 8. To preserve his fictional murder as fact, the medical examiner sat on the autopsy report for more than 100 days and might never have released it were it not for pressure from a Judicial Watch lawsuit.

This suit also forced the medical examiner to reveal the true cause of Sicknick’s death, specifically two strokes at the base of his brain stem caused by a clot. Sicknick died a “natural death” on January 7. There was no fire extinguisher. No bloody gash. No rush to the hospital. Sicknick, a reported Trump supporter, did not deserve this ghoulish exploitation. (READ MORE: Why Republicans Should Make January 6 Their Issue)

There is considerable debate as to whether January 6 was a trap or even an inside job. Beyond debate is the fact that someone had Brian Sicknick murdered. His reported “death by fire extinguisher” was no accident. Congress needs to find out pronto who ordered the hit.

Jack Cashill’s new book, Ashli: The Untold Story of the Women of January 6, is now available for purchase.

https://spectator.org/who-had-capitol-police-officer-brian-sicknick-murdered/?lh_aid=98279&lh_cid=mkzva1k3et&lh_em=crfdc%40yahoo.com&di=6294fd4b12408eafc18d0d77547e680e

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Columbia Court Compare & Contrast
« Reply #2010 on: June 20, 2024, 08:42:31 PM »
Perhaps misfiled, but compare and contrast Bragg’s approach with Trump to this slack effort, or indeed J6 defendants. Had these kids been Republicans they’d still be in jail awaiting trial:

https://freebeacon.com/campus/manhattan-da-drops-charges-against-30-columbia-protesters-arrested-over-campus-building-occupation/
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Re: Insurrection (Including J6) and the Second American Civil War
« Reply #2011 on: June 21, 2024, 06:46:35 AM »
30 people break into college building and occupy it and are arrested
but released due to lack of evidence and their first arrest.

justice works ! 

no one is above the law !

 :roll:

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Clarion Project
« Reply #2012 on: June 21, 2024, 07:01:50 AM »


Anti-Israel Violence Sweeps Country

Felony burglary charges have been filed against 13 Stanford University students associated with the campus group Students for Justice in Palestine (SJP) for breaking into the school president’s office and locking themselves inside. Read More
Anti-Israel activists vandalized the homes of individuals associated with the Brooklyn Museum and the United Nations with red paint and graffiti. Read More
Masked anti-Israel protesters took over a New York City subway car and demanded to know if there were any “Zionists” on the train — then warned them: “This is your chance to get out.” Read More
The U.S. Department of Education has initiated an investigation into a complaint that Chapman University failed to respond to antisemitic harassment and exclusion of Jewish students in violation of the Civil Rights Act. Read More
An NYC Anti-Israel protester told Jews who were honoring the hundreds of Israelis killed on Oct. 7 that he wished “Hitler was still here” because the Nazi leader would have “wiped all you out.” Read More
UC Berkeley Professor Hatem Bazian shared a livestream from the Gaza encampment at the University in which speakers praised violent Palestinian “resistance.” Read More
Minnesota Man Sentenced for Support to ISIS

Abdelhamid Al-Madioum, 27, of St. Louis Park, Minn., was sentenced to 10 years in prison followed by 15 years of supervised release for providing material support to ISIS.

Al-Madioum joined ISIS in Syria in 2015, received military training, and served as a soldier and personnel database administrator.

He continued to support ISIS after being injured in military activities until his capture by Syrian Democratic Forces in 2019. Read More

Eight ISIS Supporters Arrested in Multi-City Sting Operation

Eight Tajikistan nationals were arrested for attempting to support ISIS by providing money, technology, and equipment to the terrorist organization.

The arrests were a result of a joint operation between U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and other international law enforcement agencies in a coordinated sting operation spanning Los Angeles, New York and Philadelphia.

The suspects used complex financial transactions to mask the flow of funds intended for ISIS.

The suspects crossed into the US via the Southern border and were linked to ISIS later, as a result of the U.S. government’s highly sensitive targeting of the communications of ISIS members abroad.  Read More


Militant-Right & Militant-Left Extremism
Nicholas Fuentes, leader of far-right group America First, attends an anti-vaccine protest in front of Gracie Mansion on November 13, 2021 in New York City - Stephanie Keith/Getty Images
Nicholas Fuentes, leader of far-right group America First, attends an anti-vaccine protest in front of Gracie Mansion on November 13, 2021 in New York City - Stephanie Keith/Getty Images

Far-Right Conference Canceled in Detroit

The group America First Political Action Conference (AFPAC), led by the far-right nationalist Nicholas Fuentes, canceled their conference in Detroit due to a dispute between the organizers and the venue.

The event was supposed to be a counter to the Turning Point USA’s convention also being held in Detroit. Fuentes entered a TPUSA event, but was quickly escorted out by security while shouting that Israel was in control of the conference.

Former Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke was in attendance, along with fellow antisemites and anti-Israel personalities Jake Shields, Sulaiman Ahmed, Anastasia Maria Loupis, and Nicolas "Sneako" Kenn De Balinthazy. Read More

Three Plead Guilty to Targeting Pro-Life Pregnancy Resource Center

Three Florida residents–Caleb Freestone, Amber Smith-Stewart, and Annarella Rivera–pleaded guilty to conspiring to threaten and intimidate employees of pro-life pregnancy resource centers by vandalizing the facilities with threatening messages.

The attacks, conducted between May and July 2022, targeted centers providing abortion alternatives and included messages like, “If abortions aren’t safe then neither are you.”

The defendants face a maximum penalty of 10 years in prison, with sentencing to be scheduled later. Read More

NYPD Arrests Man Heavily Armed During Traffic Stop

Judd Sanson, 27, was arrested in East Elmhurst, N.Y., after a traffic stop revealed an arsenal of weapons, including a loaded 9 mm pistol, along with a body armor vest with an NYPD patch inside it, an MTA vest, and a baton with the written words “Left Me No Choice” and an Arabic expression that means, “Ask In God For Forgiveness.”
Police also recovered a Guys Fawkes mask, which is sometimes used as an anti-government symbol. 
Sanson, who allegedly expressed extremist views online, faces multiple charges, including criminal possession of a weapon and unlawful use of a police uniform emblem. He faces up to 15 years in prison if convicted. Read More

  Hate Crime
A Bellingham (Wash.) police patrol vehicle in front of Whatcom Middle School - KOMO News via KOMO News screenshot
A Bellingham (Wash.) police patrol vehicle in front of Whatcom Middle School - KOMO News via KOMO News screenshot

Man Charged With Hate Crime After Assaulting Black Student

Bellingham, Wash., police are investigating a hate crime after a Black student was attacked during a Whatcom Middle School field trip.

The assault occurred at a local park, where the student was targeted with racial slurs before being physically attacked by another student. Read More

Man Facing Hate Crime Charges for Road Rage Incident

A man in Baltimore faces charges after a road rage incident believed to be a hate crime.
The suspect allegedly used racial slurs and made threats against the victim, who is of Asian descent. The incident escalated to physical violence, with the suspect attempting to assault the victim. Read More
Tacoma Man Charged With Attempted Murder

Dallas Clayton Stevens, 31, of Tacoma, Wash., was charged with second-degree attempted murder, first-degree assault, possession of a dangerous weapon, and a hate crime.

Stevens shot a Black employee outside a Tacoma pot shop in a racially motivated attempted murder case. Read More

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Re: Clarion Project
« Reply #2013 on: June 21, 2024, 09:34:26 AM »
"Minnesota Man Sentenced for Support to ISIS ...

Abdelhamid Al-Madioum, ..."
    "Minnesota man".   :wink:
----------------

Yes, those traditional Minnesota names!  It reminds me of state high school basketball tournament broadcasting of a central Minnesota team:  " Larson has the ball, brings it up court, passes to Erickson, over to Anderson, in to Nelson, back out to Larson, he shoots, he SCORES!

After a few minutes it sounds like a parody. But now we have Abdelhamid Al-Madioum - and somehow the crime rate went up...
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WT: Gingrich: House must repudiate J6 Committee
« Reply #2014 on: June 25, 2024, 07:03:40 AM »


House must repudiate Jan. 6 committee

Findings, subpoenas and other actions should be null and void

By Newt Gingrich

The hard work of Rep. Barry Loudermilk and his team on the House Administration Committee has proved that the Jan. 6 committee operated completely outside the bounds of legitimacy. The Jan. 6 committee broke House rules, violated legal ethics, trampled witnesses’ constitutional rights, and established a systematic pattern of lying and misleading Congress and the nation.

The evidence Mr. Loudermilk, Georgia Republican, has been developing further makes clear that then-Rep. Liz Cheney was a driving force in polluting the committee.

Then-House Speaker Nancy Pelosi picked all the committee members. The committee never met the House standards for genuine bipartisanship. The speed and recklessness with which it was established and populated further indicated that it was poisoned from the beginning.

On June 28, 2021, Mrs. Pelosi introduced the resolution to establish the Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol. Two days later — in a largely partisan vote — the House passed it with a 222-190 vote. All the Democrats and only two Republicans, Ms. Cheney and then-Rep. Adam Kinzinger, voted to establish the committee. The other 190 Republicans present voted against it.

The next day, Mrs. Pelosi appointed eight members: Reps. Bennie Thompson, Zoe Lofgren, Adam Schiff, Pete Aguilar, Stephanie Murphy, Jamie Raskin, Elaine Luria and Cheney. The following month, she appointed Mr. Kinzinger, the Illinois Republican who was openly anti-Trump and had voted to impeach him. He was a perfect fit for the Pelosi-Cheney goal of having a one-sided investigation.

Then-Republican leader Kevin McCarthy had previously named five potential Republicans for the committee: Reps. Jim Banks, Jim Jordan, Rodney Davis, Kelly Armstrong and Troy Nehls. Neither Ms. Cheney nor Mr. Kinzinger was on McCarthy’s list. Mrs. Pelosi had of course rejected Mr. Banks and Mr. Jordan, so Mr. McCarthy pulled all Republicans from the committee. So, at this point, Ms. Cheney and Mr. Kinzinger were effectively functioning as Democrats.

By Sept. 2, 2021, Mr. Thompson had named Ms. Cheney vice chair of the committee.

From Mrs. Pelosi’s standpoint, Ms. Cheney was the perfect pick. Ms. Cheney’s own rabid hatred of former President Donald Trump had driven her from being a rising star in the Republican Party to being a pariah who worked with Democrats.

The Wyoming Republican Party had censured Ms. Cheney over her anti-Trump mania. She had infuriated enough House Republicans to be ousted as chair of the House Republican Conference, the third-highest minority party job. She went from that highranking post to becoming vice chair of the select committee designed to help Democrats and attack Republicans.

On the committee, Ms. Cheney’s hatred for Mr. Trump further drove her to a series of actions that violated House rules and ignored legal ethics. She destroyed evidence to keep it from the House and manipulated information to prove her points — even when they were profoundly false. Throughout the process, she also knowingly violated the canon of ethics by manipulating witnesses without their attorneys’ knowledge. Ms. Cheney’s contempt for Republicans was clear when she said to the committee in June 2022, “Tonight, I say this to my Republican colleagues who are defending the indefensible: There will come a day when Donald Trump is gone, but your dishonor will remain.”

I remember watching at the time and thinking what a deep level of anger and arrogance it must take to publicly condemn people who had once made you their thirdranking leader.

Then, it occurred to me: Mrs. Pelosi was tactically attacking Mr. Trump as a current opponent — and strategically destroying a potential future rival in Ms. Cheney at the same time.

This only clarified my belief that the Jan. 6 committee was a calculated, partisan fraud focused solely on imposing a false narrative on the country to help elect Democrats.

As Mr. Loudermilk is proving in his investigation, the current Congress owes it to history and justice to repudiate the Jan. 6 committee and declare its findings, subpoenas and other actions null and void.

For more commentary form Newt Gingrich, visit Gingrich360.com. And subscribe to the “Newt’s World” podcast

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PP: J6 defendant wins at SCOTUS; CBS
« Reply #2015 on: June 28, 2024, 09:42:50 AM »
J6 defendant wins at SCOTUS: "These people should be in jail," Joe Biden mumbled last night about the January 6 defendants. "And they should be the ones who are being held accountable." The ones who tangled with police should be in jail, but not the ones who were let in as tourists by the police. The Supreme Court may have made that outcome possible with a key ruling issued this morning. "The justices on a 6-3 vote handed a win to defendant Joseph Fischer, who is among hundreds of Jan. 6 defendants — including Trump — who have been charged with obstructing an official proceeding," reports NBC News, probably after a shot of bourbon. "The court concluded that the law, enacted in 2002 as part of the Sarbanes-Oxley Act after the Enron accounting scandal, was only intended to apply in limited circumstances involving tampering with physical evidence." It now goes back to a lower court for reconsideration. The Biden DOJ threw everything and the kitchen sink at J6 defendants in hopes of inflating the number of those jailed and, thus, the seriousness of the "insurrection." At least for now, using an obscure and unrelated statute to do so isn't going to cut it.

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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/supreme-court-january-6-obstruction-trump/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR0oT3i7Stk4evHC-8nVM-zN4eOU81PGpGt0HGJGBND6Az89sKSN3pF8pOk_aem_Jebi2gp_I60gdBN3LyyFCQ

Supreme Court limits scope of obstruction charge levied against Jan. 6 defendants, including Trump
By Melissa Quinn

Updated on: June 28, 2024 / 2:15 PM EDT / CBS News


Washington — The Supreme Court on Friday ruled in favor of a former Pennsylvania police officer who was charged with obstructing an official proceeding after he entered the U.S. Capitol building on Jan. 6, 2021, and narrowed the Justice Department's use of a federal obstruction statute leveled against scores of people who breached the building where Congress had convened to count state electoral votes.

The court ruled 6-3 in finding that to prove a violation of the obstruction law, the government must show that the defendant impaired the availability or integrity of records, documents or other objects used in an official proceeding. Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson joined five conservatives in the majority, while Justice Amy Coney Barrett sided with the two other liberals.

The case was sent back to the lower court for further proceedings, and the court said it can assess the sufficiency of the obstruction charge brought against defendant Joseph Fischer in light of its ruling.

Writing for the court, Chief Justice John Roberts said that accepting the Justice Department's reading of the law would give prosecutors "broad discretion to seek a 20-year maximum sentence for acts Congress saw fit to punish only with far shorter terms of imprisonment."

Jan. 6 cases
The Supreme Court's decision could affect the ongoing prosecutions of nearly 250 defendants charged with obstruction for their participation in the Jan. 6 assault. It could also upend cases that have already been adjudicated, since those who were convicted of violating the obstruction statute or pleaded guilty could seek resentencing, withdraw their pleas or ask for new trials. There are 52 cases in which a defendant was convicted and sentenced on charges where the obstruction count was the sole felony, and of those, 27 are currently incarcerated, according to the Justice Department.

Trump supporters gather on the West Front of the U.S. Capitol on Wednesday, Jan. 6, 2021, in Washington, D.C.
Trump supporters gather on the West Front of the U.S. Capitol on Wednesday, Jan. 6, 2021, in Washington, D.C.
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Crucially, the ruling could also impact the federal prosecution of former President Donald Trump, who is facing charges stemming from an alleged scheme to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election. The obstruction statute and conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding are among the four counts Trump faces in the case brought by special counsel Jack Smith. Trump has pleaded not guilty to all charges.

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While the impact on the Supreme Court's ruling on Trump's case was not immediately clear, the former president could ask a federal district court to toss out the two obstruction-related counts as a result. Smith told the Supreme Court in a filing in another case that regardless of the ruling in Fischer's case, the obstruction charges against Trump are still valid because he is alleged to have organize false slates of electors, which involves documents.

The justices are still weighing a bid by Trump to have the entire indictment dismissed on the grounds of presidential immunity, though they have yet to issue a decision. The special counsel's office declined to comment on Friday's ruling.

Attorney General Merrick Garland said he was "disappointed" by the decision, but said it would have a minimal impact on Jan. 6 cases.

"There are no cases in which the Department charged a January 6 defendant only with the offense at issue in Fischer. For the cases affected by today's decision, the Department will take appropriate steps to comply with the Court's ruling," Garland said in a statement. "We will continue to use all available tools to hold accountable those criminally responsible for the January 6 attack on our democracy."


Fischer v. U.S.
The law at the center of the case was passed in the wake of the Enron accounting fraud scandal and makes it a crime to "corruptly" obstruct or impede an official proceeding. The statute is typically used in cases that involve evidence tampering, since its first provision is focused on documents. But after the Jan. 6 attack, federal prosecutors leveled the obstruction charge against more than 350 defendants who allegedly entered the Capitol after Congress had convened to certify the election results.

More than 1,400 people have been charged in connection with the Jan. 6 assault. The vast majority — 82% — were not charged with violating the obstruction statute, according to the Justice Department.

One of those defendants who was charged is Fischer, who faced seven counts, including assaulting a police officer, disorderly conduct and corruptly obstructing an official proceeding. Violators of the obstruction statute face up to 20 years in prison.

Fischer moved to dismiss the obstruction count, and a federal district judge ruled that nothing in the indictment alleged that he "took some action with respect to a document, record, or other object" to obstruct the congressional proceedings.

That judge, U.S. District Judge Carl Nichols, was the only one out of 15 hearing Jan. 6 cases in Washington who adopted a narrow reading of the law.

The federal appeals court in Washington, though, ruled against Fischer in a divided decision last year. He then appealed to the Supreme Court, and Fischer's case marked the first in which the justices confronted the aftermath of the Jan. 6 attack.

Writing for the court, Roberts noted the motivation behind enacting the obstruction statute — to close a gap in the law exposed by the Enron scandal — and said it would be "peculiar" if Congress hid away in the second part of the measure a "catchall provision that reaches far beyond document shredding and similar scenarios that prompted the legislation in the first place."


The "better conclusion," the chief justice said, is that Congress designed the statute to encompass other forms of evidence and other means of impairing its integrity beyond those it specified.

"Given that [the provision] was enacted to address the Enron disaster, not some further flung set of dangers, it is unlikely that Congress responded with such an unfocused and 'grossly incommensurate patch,'" Roberts wrote for the court.

But Barrett, in dissent, said the obstruction law is a broad provision and argued that while the events like Jan. 6 were not its target, statutes often extend further than the initial problem they were intended to solve.

"Joseph Fischer allegedly participated in a riot at the Capitol that forced the delay of Congress's joint session on January 6th. Blocking an official proceeding from moving forward surely qualifies as obstructing or impeding the proceeding by means other than document destruction," she wrote. "Fischer's alleged conduct thus falls within [the law's] scope.

She was joined by Justices Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan.

On the heels of the Supreme Court's ruling, at least one judge on the U.S. District Court in Washington, D.C., moved quickly to schedule additional proceedings in some cases of Jan. 6 defendants who have been sentenced for violating the obstruction law. One of those involves the first defendant to be convicted in a jury trial, Guy Reffitt, who was sentenced to 87 months in prison. Reffitt was found guilty of obstructing an official proceeding and other offenses, and the judge overseeing his case has called for more proceedings in light of the Supreme Court's decision.

The legal fight over the obstruction law was one of three cases before the court in its current term with implications for Trump. In arguing that the obstruction charges against Trump would not be impacted by a ruling in this case, Smith pointed to his claims that Trump deceitfully organized fake slates of electors in seven battleground states and urged state officials to send the false certificates to Congress. The creation of those documents, Smith said, "satisfies an evidence-impairment interpretation."

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Jack Smith: Stone Cold Loser
« Reply #2017 on: July 01, 2024, 11:23:56 AM »
I'll add he has also been a Deep State hatchetman pursuing effective Republicans for a couple decades now:

@julie_kelly2

Now is a good time to remind everyone that Jack Smith is and always has been a stone-cold loser.

His J6 case is barely on life support in DC after he fudged the case. Judge Cannon is systematically destroying his docs case in addition to destroying the reputation and sanity of his prosecutors in Florida.
And Justice Thomas just gave Cannon one more reason to dismiss docs case for unlawful appointment of Smith--a defense motion currently pending in her court:

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DOC and DC Judge Hang J6 Defendants out to Dry
« Reply #2018 on: July 10, 2024, 04:51:08 PM »
Evidence of the DOJ and DC judge withholding exculpatory evidence:

https://x.com/breannamorello/status/1811164090955436221?s=12

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Re: Insurrection (Including J6) and the Second American Civil War
« Reply #2019 on: July 10, 2024, 05:06:20 PM »
Fk.

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Implications of Fischer. Nut Graff: DOJ Hosed on Many J6 Convictions
« Reply #2020 on: July 11, 2024, 01:05:57 PM »
Though the left is both downplaying and rending their breasts over this SCOTUS decision, it boils down to prosecution 101, something it seems the DOJ hasn’t mastered:

This is a guest post by David W. Fischer, a Maryland and D.C.-based criminal defense attorney and the senior partner at Fischer & Putzi, P.A.  Most recently, Mr. Fischer defended January 6 defendant Thomas Caldwell, who was acquitted on seditious and other conspiracy charges.  He is not related to Joseph Fischer, the defendant in the Supreme Court’s Fischer v. United States decision.

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On June 28, the United States Supreme Court handed down its opinion in Fischer v. United States, a decision that affects hundreds of January 6 defendants (J6ers) who were charged with felony “obstruction of an official proceeding” for their actions on January 6.  The statute at issue in Fischer, 18 U.S.C. § 1512(c), provides:

Whoever corruptly —

(1) alters, destroys, mutilates, or conceals a record, document, or other object, or attempts to do so, with the intent to impair the object’s integrity or availability for use in an official proceeding; or

(2) otherwise obstructs, influences, or impedes any official proceeding, or attempts to do so,

shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.

The Department of Justice (DOJ) took the position that subsection (2) of the statute is an independent clause and, accordingly, alleged that the physical presence of protestors illegally inside the Capitol itself constituted “obstruction” of the Electoral College certification on January 6.

Writing for the 6-3 majority, however, Chief Justice John Roberts rejected the DOJ’s reading, instead holding that the government must prove that a defendant’s alleged obstruction must relate to the impairment of evidence, i.e., “records, documents, or objects,” intended for use in the proceeding.

Contrary to the DOJ’s recent spin, the Fischer decision was a massive defeat for the government, as it had (mis) used Section 1512(c)(2)—a felony that entailed draconian sentencing guidelines and a presumption that charged defendants be held pre-trial without bail—against nearly 340 J6ers.

Fischer Decision is Hardly Controversial

While left-leaning lawyers have been endlessly tweeting about Fischer being proof of a judicial putsch in favor of Donald Trump, the Supreme Court’s decision is hardly surprising.  For years the Supreme Court, led by the late Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, has reigned in the DOJ’s broad interpretations of obstruction statutes.  In fact, the Fischer majority heavily relied on Justice Ginsburg’s seminal opinion in United States v. Yates, a 2015 decision, where the Supreme Court rejected the DOJ’s contention that a similarly-worded obstruction statute applied to fishermen deep-sixing their catch just before an inspection of their vessel.

The main point of contention in Fischer was Congress’s use of the word “otherwise” between the two clauses in Section 1512(c).  The majority—correctly—ruled that “otherwise” was intended to connect the two clauses; hence, the second clause was not a sweeping, independent obstruction statute but, rather, a “residual clause” designed by Congress to criminalize similar, but slightly different, acts of evidence destruction.

For example, if a crooked CEO under investigation by the S.E.C. sets out thousands of incriminating documents on his porch, knowing they will be blown away by the wind, he did not “alter,” “destroy” “mutilate,” or “conceal” documents, but he would still be guilty of Section 1512(c)(2) because his conduct “otherwise” obstructed a grand jury investigation by preventing relevant documents from being reviewed.

How will Fischer affect January 6 defendants?

The Fischer decision opens the door to the dismissal of every single Section 1512(c)(2) count that was charged against January 6 defendants, even those defendants who have already entered a guilty plea (mostly under prosecutorial threat) or were found guilty by a judge or jury.  Why?  To answer that question, one must understand the importance of charging language used in grand jury indictments and other charging documents.

In order to properly charge a person with a crime, the government, through the grand jury, must spell out each and every “essential element” of the crime charged.  It is not good enough to allege in an indictment, for example, that John Doe “committed a burglary.”  Instead, a constitutionally valid burglary indictment must include all essential elements that comprise the crime of burglary, e.g., that John Doe “did break and enter the dwelling of Jane Smith with the intent to commit a felony therein.”  The correct charging language is constitutional, as it puts John Doe on notice that his alleged criminal conduct was: 1) breaking and entering; 2) the dwelling of another person; 3) and did so with the intent to commit a felony.

If the prosecutor screws up and fails to list each and every essential element of a crime in the indictment, the prosecutor has failed to charge a crime, even if it is obvious which crime was intended to be charged.  The failure to list all essential elements of a crime makes the indicted count “jurisdictionally defective.”

In other words, the Court lacks the power, i.e., the authority to exercise jurisdiction, to enter a judgment of conviction against the defendant, since a crime has not been alleged.  More importantly, the prosecutor is prohibited from correcting a jurisdictional defect in an indictment.  Finally, a defendant can move to dismiss a jurisdictionally defective indictment at any time—before or during trial, after he or she is convicted, and even in an appellate court.  In short, failure to allege each and every essential element of a crime in an indictment equals a failure to charge a crime, and courts cannot punish those who were never charged with a crime in the first place.

How does this apply to J6ers?

Every indictment in January 6 cases that charged defendants with violating 18 U.S.C. § 1512(c)(2) used the exact same charging language: “On or about January 6, 2021, the defendant did corruptly obstruct, influence and impede an official proceeding[.]” Under the Fischer decision, however, the government must prove that a J6er’s intent was to “impair the use or availability” of “documents, records, or objects” or “witness testimony” for an official proceeding.

Accordingly, every J6er Section 1512(c)(2) indictment is defective because all fail to allege two essential elements of that statute—that the defendant 1) targeted tangible or intangible evidence; and 2) did so with the intent to impair the use or availability of this evidence for an official proceeding.

In short, the DOJ charged hundreds of J6ers with non-crimes; any current or convicted defendants will likely have success in moving to dismiss their Section 1512(c)(2) counts or in setting aside their guilty pleas based on the holding in Fischer.

Will the DOJ Empire Strike Back?

The DOJ is not happy about the Fischer decision and is currently strategizing ways to circumvent the Supreme Court’s ruling.  For example, in certain cases the DOJ may attempt to recharge using corrected charging language in indictments, which will claim that particular defendants targeted the ceremonial ballot box or other documents used by Congress during the January 6 certification.  Creative charging language, however, doesn’t change the evidence, which is quite strong that none of the J6ers were targeting evidence.

January 6, obviously, was a protest that got out of hand.  Unfortunately, many of the judges in D.C. have been amenable to the DOJ’s expansive reading of the law.  Nevertheless, the Fischer decision likely means very good news for most defendants who were charged with obstructing Congress.

https://www.declassified.live/p/after-fischer-what-next

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Re: Insurrection (Including J6) and the Second American Civil War
« Reply #2021 on: July 11, 2024, 02:22:24 PM »
Nice find BBG.  Clear and precise discussion of the legal issues.


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« Reply #2023 on: July 17, 2024, 08:21:41 PM »
The lawlessness of Dem admins often astounds:

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NEW: Sources tell me DHS Secretary Mayorkas is stonewalling the release of this DHS IG report, which would include any security failures or perhaps involvement by the Secret Service on January 6.

For 2 years, the Biden White House, Democrats in Congress, and the media have attacked DHS IG Joseph Cuffari, who discovered that all of the texts belonging to roughly two dozen Secret Service officials including the head of USSS related to Jan 6 had been deleted at the end of January 2021--under the Biden regime.

Cuffari sought a criminal investigation into the purge of the messages--which occurred AFTER Democrats notified each federal agency to preserve all records and documents for Jan 6.

Instead, the J6 Committee and Biden White House started to smear Cuffari, claiming he failed to notify Congress about the missing texts--which is not true.

Cuffari today announced an inquiry into the Secret Service for the attempted assassination of Donald Trump.

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« Reply #2024 on: July 18, 2024, 07:50:57 AM »
Fk. 

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WSJ: Why the Insurrection argument falls flat.
« Reply #2025 on: July 20, 2024, 09:17:04 AM »


Why the Jan. 6 ‘Insurrection’ Argument Falls Flat
Whatever Trump’s role, the riot was one of many cases of Covid-era folly. Most voters would prefer not to be reminded.
By Barton Swaim
July 19, 2024 5:17 pm ET


President Biden has based his 2024 campaign on a theme that, as a consequence of the failed assassination attempt on his opponent, now sounds dissonant and unbecoming. That theme is that Donald Trump is a “threat to democracy.” The evidence for that claim, other than some of Mr. Trump’s zanier remarks over the years, consists mainly of one thing: the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol riot.


Democrats bring up this event at nearly every opportunity. The New York Times and Washington Post have never stopped running stories about every detail of that day and its aftermath. The riot is routinely called an “insurrection,” as if such a motley crowd, acting on a lamebrained theory about the Electoral Count Act of 1887, could have overthrown the government and imposed a dictatorship.

It’s true that the Jan. 6 riot was a disgrace and an embarrassment to the United States. But Democrats have vastly overinterpreted its political significance. Their belief that it would work as a peremptory argument against a second Trump term was a fantasy. To understand why, consider another event, which almost all of us would rather forget: the Covid-19 pandemic.

The governmental response was colossally foolish: harsh lockdowns and school closings that didn’t arrest the virus’s spread while imposing massive economic and educational costs; social discord over mask and vaccine mandates that offered little if any health benefit. Yet few of the governors and big-city mayors who imposed these policies and quashed dissent suffered any electoral consequence—even those caught breaking their own draconian rules: Washington Mayor Muriel Bowser, San Francisco Mayor London Breed and California Gov. Gavin Newsom, among many others.

They all claimed to be following “science” and “data,” but somehow science and data are unable to support them in hindsight. Nobody expects the lockdown lords, as my colleague Daniel Henninger once called them, to admit they were wrong, but one might have expected their failure and hypocrisy to be punished at the ballot box. It wasn’t.

The melancholy reality, two years after the pandemic’s end, is that nobody wants to think about what went wrong. Consider the near-total absence of the pandemic experience in popular culture. The Covid-19 pandemic was a world-shaping event that reorganized social life at every level. Everyone was affected by it, and almost everyone had strong opinions on it. Yet in 2024, if you didn’t already know that the entire developed world had been transfixed by the virus four years ago, you would have almost no clue. You could watch scores of movies and television shows produced in the last two years, and read a hundred popular novels published after the pandemic subsided, and have no idea that four years before, everybody thought and talked about one thing every day: the virus. Only the poor odd soul still wearing a mask would suggest to you that anything had happened.

For ordinary people, the whole Covid era in all its expressions—masking, social distancing, sheltering in place, not going to the park because city officials had taken down basketball rims and tennis nets—is a mad muddle best left unremembered, or at least undiscussed. Why would anyone want to remember?

More or less the same was true of the far deadlier 1918 Spanish flu pandemic. “The important and almost incomprehensible fact about Spanish influenza is that it killed millions upon millions of people in a year or less,” writes Alfred Crosby in “America’s Forgotten Pandemic” (2003), an updated version of his important study “Epidemic and Peace” (1976). “Nothing else—no infection, no war, no famine—has ever killed so many in as short a period. And yet it has never inspired awe, not in 1918 and not since, not among the citizens of any particular land and not among the citizens of the United States.”

Recorded data of the Spanish flu pandemic are plentiful. Memoirs of it aren’t. The people who lived through it didn’t want to talk about it ever again.

In the case of Covid, it’s reasonable to think that many Americans are reluctant to reconsider their experience because they themselves behaved in a lot of stupid ways. A horrific video of an arrest gone awry, in which a black man was killed by a white policeman kneeling on his neck, impelled hundreds of thousands of Americans to burst into the streets shouting inanities. “Defund the Police” and “ACAB”—all cops are bastards—were among the many idiotic slogans thrown around to justify mayhem in the summer of 2020. Ignoramuses toppled and vandalized statues, hoodlums smashed windows and looted stores, and black-clad masked insurgents—real ones—tried to destroy government buildings.

Mainstream media reporters defended violence in the cause of fighting “systemic racism,” made excuses for looting, and strained to present nihilistic ruffianism as a just response to oppression. The famous CNN chyron announcing “fiery but mostly peaceful protests” nicely captures the madness of the pandemic summer. Media commentators and public-health authorities, having insisted for months that people wear masks and keep 6 feet apart even outdoors and shamed those who rejected this absurd guidance, suddenly proclaimed mass street protests acceptable on the grounds that they advanced an ideal higher than public health.

A year of faceless interactions, pointless shutdowns, government-generated bankruptcies and Zoom “meetings” made everybody a touch insane—unhinged, unbalanced. News reports at the time noted a spike in car crashes, even though fewer cars were on the road. Conventional wisdom held that less traffic encouraged drivers to speed, but that made no sense—you aren’t more likely to crash when fewer cars are around. A better explanation: The whole pandemic experience robbed everybody of their judgment. When people lacking judgment drive automobiles, they tend to drive their cars into trees, utility poles and other cars.

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Another factor contributed to our collective injudiciousness in 2020: a hotly contested presidential election.

Presidential elections have always caused otherwise reasonable people of goodwill to behave in regrettable ways. The 2020 election was a perfect storm of acrimony and unreason, falling as it did in the middle of a pandemic in which many politicians ceded the authority their constituents had granted them to public-health experts who had no idea what they were doing.

In 2020, most of the press had for four years devoted itself to destroying a president who was then running for re-election. Recall the Russia-collusion hoax, the myriad claims by academics and media personalities that Mr. Trump would create a fascist America, or the easily falsifiable claim, still gospel in much of the media, that he had called neo-Nazis and white supremacists “very fine people.”

The propaganda intensified in the autumn of the election year: The postmaster general was trying to suppress mail-in votes to benefit Mr. Trump; Russia was paying Afghan jihadists to kill U.S. troops and the president didn’t care; Hunter Biden’s laptop wasn’t a newsworthy story since former intel officials said it was likely Russian disinformation—a claim that was itself disinformation. And on and on.

Until then, ordinary Republican voters hadn’t yet cracked, as Democratic ones had over the previous summer. Mr. Trump’s loss made Republicans crack.

For four years the media have been calling Mr. Trump’s false claims about the 2020 election the “big lie.” Many of his claims, fed to him by sycophants and delusional partisans, were outrageously false. As ever, Mr. Trump turned a valid, nuanced argument—that Democratic states and municipalities had liberalized election laws and procedures in the middle of the contest in ways that benefited Democrats—into a series of cockamamie assertions and wild exaggerations about outright election fraud.

He had always done this, and he still does. Recall his famous claim, in a series of Twitter posts on March 4, 2017, that President Obama had “tapped” Mr. Trump’s phone. The media guffawed. The claim was literally false. But in substance there was truth in it: Mr. Obama’s Justice Department had in fact spied on the candidate and his campaign, obtaining a warrant to wiretap one adviser. Or his claim during last month’s debate with Mr. Biden that “every legal scholar throughout the world” wanted Roe v. Wade overturned. Plainly he had been coached to say that even some liberal legal scholars thought Roe was wrongly decided in 1973. What came out was classic Trumpian hyperbole: not a few influential liberal scholars, but all of them, everywhere.

In 2020-21, Mr. Trump had every reason to complain about the ways in which Democrats had used the pandemic to justify loosening election rules. He could also see, as anyone could, that the media were deliberately ignoring Mr. Biden’s mental and physical limitations. All this, and the media’s almost daily falsehoods about him, led the president to claim, in his customarily maximalist way, that the election had been “stolen.”

Democrats and the media invariably portray the 2020 election as an ordinary one. It was an election like any other, they seem to believe, only for some reason it ended in protest and violence. But nothing about the pandemic year was normal, and certainly not the election.

The losing side of the 2020 election was guaranteed to claim that it had been stolen—particularly given Democrats’ recent propensity to protest legitimate election results, as they had done in 2000, 2004 and 2016. Yet although the election hadn’t been stolen by fraud, as many Republicans alleged and some still believe, the feeling that Mr. Trump’s presidency had been stolen piecemeal—by innumerable lies, a bogus investigation and the sudden liberalization of election laws—was entirely rational.

Mr. Trump’s postelection behavior was mystifying and discreditable, even in a year of lunacy and bad judgment. Couldn’t he make a measured, coherent case that the election had been unfair but nonetheless accept the result and mount an opposition campaign for 2024? He couldn’t. Did he have to accept every easily falsified tale of election fraud told to him by toadies and trumpet it to his supporters? He did. And those supporters were as ready to hear stories of election chicanery as their left-wing correlatives had been ready, six months before, to accept any allegation they heard, however ludicrous, about police violence and systemic racism.

The consequence, on Jan. 6, 2021, was a haphazard rush on a poorly guarded Capitol building in which a few ideologues and miscreants mixed with a mass of decent if misled Americans who, at the end of a white-hot election turned berserk by arbitrarily changed pandemic regulations, made the mistake of taking Mr. Trump’s rants both seriously and literally. Believing the bonkers legal theory that the vice president could forestall the transfer of power by refusing to certify electors from states in which the loser alleged fraud, protesters aimed to stop Congress from certifying Mr. Biden’s victory.

Unlike the vast majority of the lawbreakers who looted stores, vandalized monuments and attacked government buildings the previous summer, the Jan. 6 protesters were, almost to a man, found and prosecuted. Of more than 1,250 charged, more than half pleaded guilty, many offering apologies. Nonetheless the media and the Democratic Party settled on a preposterously overwrought term for this misbegotten event: “insurrection.”

The events of Jan. 6 were generated by pandemic-year poor judgment. Which is why Republicans will pay the same electoral price for it that Democrats have paid for lockdowns, school closings and onerous, pointless mandates: almost none. The Biden re-election campaign has based its entire effort on the idea that Mr. Trump is a “threat to democracy” and therefore that Jan. 6, or something like it, could happen again. To gauge the wisdom of that strategy, imagine Republicans basing their entire 2024 campaign on the idea that Democrats imposed senseless public-health mandates four years ago and will do it again if Mr. Biden wins.

Democratic officeholders and strategists have failed to understand that voters outside their own base, and perhaps many within it, don’t want to think about the long nightmare of 2020-21 any more than they have to. The Capitol riot, like the lockdowns, school closings and mandates, may never be forgiven—but they are already forgotten.

Mr. Swaim is an editorial page writer at the Journal.

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New Look @ J6
« Reply #2026 on: July 23, 2024, 10:35:03 AM »
New committee chair looking into J6 claims the last finding involved substantial "cherry picking" and promises the new assessment will be fair. Newly released video here:

https://rumble.com/c/CHASubcommitteeOnOversightRepublicanMajority

Story here:

https://justthenews.com/government/congress/house-subcommittee-releases-thousands-hours-new-j6-footage?utm_medium=social_media&utm_source=facebook_social_icon&utm_campaign=social_icons

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What’s Good for the J6 “Insurrectionists …”
« Reply #2027 on: July 25, 2024, 05:59:19 AM »
… is good for these Antifa rioters:

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If the USCP have now declared the protests a "riot" that means 18 U.S.C. Sec. 231 is now in play.

That is felony.

Extensive use of "facial recognition" technology was used to ID J6 defendants.

There should be no less of an effort made here.

The FBI and other federal agencies should have LEOs in the crowd attempting to capture the IDs of rioters. :-D

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