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Re: President Trump
« Reply #1651 on: January 02, 2019, 06:11:58 PM »
Yes I agree Crafty and GM

And sadly I am convinced he will lose in '20.  He just refuses to change and has not and will not win anyone over past the 45 % of us who will vote for him despite this stuff.

When he is out of power he will have NO friends . nada

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Noonan: Can President Trump handle a crisis?
« Reply #1653 on: February 07, 2019, 08:47:48 PM »
Can Trump Handle a Foreign Crisis?
He’ll face one eventually, and there’s good reason to worry the administration will be unprepared.
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By Peggy Noonan
Feb. 7, 2019 6:57 p.m. ET

Someday this White House will face a sudden, immediate and severe foreign-policy crisis. It’s almost a miracle it hasn’t happened already. George W. Bush had 9/11 less than eight months into his tenure; John F. Kennedy had the Bay of Pigs three months into his presidency and the Cuban missile crisis the following year. In two years Donald Trump has faced some turbulence, but not a full-fledged crisis.

Such good fortune won’t continue forever. I sometimes ask past and present officials of this administration their thoughts on a crisis, and how the White House would handle one. They are concerned.
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What might such a crisis look like? History resides in both the unexpected and the long-predicted. Russia moves against a U.S. ally, testing Washington’s commitment to Article 5 of the North Atlantic Treaty; a coordinated cyber action by our adversaries takes down the American grid; China, experiencing political unrest within a background of a slowing economy, decides this is a good time to move on Taiwan; someone bombs Iran’s missile sites; Venezuela explodes in violence during a military crackdown; there’s an accidental launch somewhere.

Maybe it will be a wild and deliberate act that brings trouble, maybe not. The historian Margaret MacMillan said a few years ago in a radio interview: “I think we should never underestimate the sheer role of accident.”

What does it take to handle a grave crisis successfully, beyond luck?

Everything depends on personnel, process and planning. The president and his top advisers have to work closely, with trust and confidence, quickly apprehending the shape of the challenge and its implications. There must be people around him with wisdom, judgment, experience. They must know their jobs and be able to execute them under pressure. Clear lines of communication are key between both individuals and agencies. The president and his advisers have to maintain high focus yet pace themselves—you never know how long a crisis will last. They would have to keep their eyes on the million moving pieces, military and diplomatic, that comprise a strategy. As Navy veteran JFK said during the missile crisis, “There’s always some poor son of a bitch who doesn’t get the word.”

How would this White House handle a grave crisis? It is right to feel particular concern. We know from every first-person account, from the histories, memoirs and journalism, that it’s a White House frequently at war. They don’t get along, they leak, they don’t trust each other. There is unusually high turnover, a constantly changing cast of characters, a lack of deep experience. During the Berlin airlift, thought at the time to be the height of the Cold War, Secretary of State George C. Marshall, who’d been Army chief of staff during World War II, was asked how worried he was. “I’ve seen worse,” he replied. He had. No one around this president has seen worse. When Jim Mattis, John Kelly and H.R. McMaster left the administration, a cumulative 123 years of military and diplomatic experience left with them.

The president is famously impulsive, uninterested in deep study, not systematic in his thinking. His recently leaked schedules give no sign he spends a lot of time forging deeper relationships with advisers and agency heads on whom one day a great deal may depend. There is a marked lack of trust between the intelligence community and the White House—and intelligence is front and center during a crisis. The National Security Council is not fully staffed.
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What would happen if they suddenly faced heavy history? “No administration is ready for its first crisis,” says Richard Haass, who was a member of George H.W. Bush’s NSC and is author of “A World in Disarray.” “What you learn is that the machinery isn’t adequate, or people aren’t ready.” First crises trigger reforms of procedures so that second ones are better handled. “This administration is not populated by people who’ve been through a crisis of the first order.” Mr. Haass notes that the national security adviser must see himself not only as counselor to the president but a coordinator of the interagency process. He’s got to make sure it works.

There is no way, really, to simulate a crisis, because you don’t know what’s coming, and key people are busy doing their regular jobs. And all administrations, up until the point they’re tested, tend to be overconfident.

What can they do to be readier? Think, study, talk and plan.

For a modern example of good process, personnel and management, there is the Cuban missile crisis. Because of its nature—two nuclear powers poised eye to eye—the stakes couldn’t have been higher. The threat of miscalculation was ever present in JFK’s mind. He feared a so-called spasm response—a knee-jerk reaction from Soviet Premier Nikita Krushchev if he felt cornered or provoked. Presidential historian Michael Beschloss says “a big part of Kennedy’s job was to keep an eye on every aspect, big and small—where planes are flying, where troops are moving”—so that Krushchev “could get no false impression.” Kennedy had learned during the Bay of Pigs disaster that a president can’t do it alone. He created an executive committee of a dozen trusted advisers to help him achieve consensus and devise strategy. “He needed expert help to ride herd on the bureaucracy, including the military bureaucracy.” He often absented himself so members weren’t tempted to tailor their advice to his perceived preferences. In time he brought in Congress. House Majority Whip Hale Boggs was famously summoned by a note in a bottle dropped from an military helicopter as he fished on the Gulf of Mexico. Personal emissaries were sent to Paris, Bonn and London. When former Secretary of State Dean Acheson met with Charles de Gaulle, the latter famously waved away photographic proof of the Soviet missile sites. A great nation like America would not act without proof, he said.

“It was,” says Mr. Beschloss, “a triumph of management.”

He notes that President Trump doesn’t seem to think homing in on details is a big part of his job: “For one who touts himself as a spectacular manager, he hasn’t gotten beyond the idea ‘I alone can fix it.’ ”

It would be good to know people in the administration are regularly thinking about all this.

They need to repair the breach with the intelligence community. They need to see to it that a serious NSC process is produced, and all positions filled, preferably with experienced professionals for whom the next crisis is not their first one.

It might be good to have regular situation-room meetings on what-ifs, and how to handle what-ifs, and to have deep contingency planning with intelligence, military and civilian leaders discussing scenarios. “Put yourself in a position,” says Mr. Haass, “where you’re less unread when a crisis does occur.”

All the senior people in an administration always know whether and how they’ll get to the bunker. But by the time we’re talking bunkers, the story is almost over. It’s not a plan. Think about the plan.

Margaret MacMillan again: People not only get used to peace and think it’s “the normal state of affairs,” they get used to the idea that any crisis can be weathered, because they have been in the past. But that’s no guarantee of anything, is it?

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Holy Moses ! Highest ever
« Reply #1654 on: February 11, 2019, 07:57:18 AM »
From Rasmussen which seems to be an outlier but still this is great news:

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/prez_track_feb11

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The Charlotteville smear
« Reply #1656 on: March 08, 2019, 08:34:10 PM »
Ran across this today.  Given the Big Lie success to the meme about Trump's Charlotteville statement as proof of his racism, we need to:

a) realize that many good Americans have been taken in by the false meme, and as good Americans think very poorly of President Trump for it, and

b) be able to clarify the point in simple, direct, and concise language.

https://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/media/346878-the-media-couldnt-be-more-blatant-in-distorting-trumps-words-on?fbclid=IwAR2UFTBypU1qqVjp1l3TN1zzanHOEoFlxZR2oqmBn0e4G_nLYfT6xzxsbaM


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NRO: President Trump and Order Optional
« Reply #1660 on: April 25, 2019, 02:55:21 AM »
The Mueller report depicts a White House where orders are optional.

One of the outstanding features of the Mueller report was its portrait of Donald Trump’s presidency, in which the orders and directives he gives are routinely ignored by his own White House staff and cabinet members. In some instances, his lack of follow-up or his later acceptance of a contrary suggestion may indicate that his previous orders were more like a Nixonian outburst. In many of the cited cases, especially those involving White House counsel Don McGahn, administration officials drag their feet until the president changes his mind, or simply ignore his orders.

But reading the report I couldn’t help but wonder if we were already involved in a constitutional crisis of authority, a dormant one, that is waiting for one unfortunate incident in Syria to explode. The 1983 bombing of U.S. Marine barracks in Lebanon caused Ronald Reagan to withdraw our troops from that country, partly because it was a conflict he could not explain to the satisfaction of the American people. In 1993, after a period of mission creep in Somalia, an exfiltration operation turned into the Battle of Mogadishu, leaving 18 Americans dead and over 70 others injured. It rocked the Clinton presidency.

What would happen if some enormity befell our troops in Syria? And remember that, unlike Reagan or Clinton, Trump has already announced that U.S. troops will be leaving Syria expeditiously — but advisers, military commanders, and others who prefer a plan that keeps the U.S. in Syria have prevailed in ignoring and reversing this presidential announcement.

A refresher, if you haven’t followed the blow-by-blow. Are we withdrawing all troops in Syria, as President Trump announced in December? Or are we keeping just 200 troops in Syria, as “the White House” announced in February? Or are we leaving as many as 1,000 troops or more, as the Wall Street Journal reported in March? The last attempt to answer these questions was made by General Joseph Dunford, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs. More or less, his response to the above three questions was to say “Yes. All of the above.”

“There has been no change to the plan announced in February and we continue to implement the president’s direction to draw down U.S. forces to a residual presence,” Dunford said. The plan was to create with regional allies a combined force of 1,500 troops overall, with the U.S. drawing down its number as others kick in.

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Reports emphasize that there is a continued low-grade conflict between Trump and his advisers on this matter. “U.S. military commanders were aware that while Trump has allowed some troops to stay in Syria, he has not given up on the idea of eventually pulling them all out,” CNN reported. Trump has adverted to the conflict as well. In December, when visiting an airbase in Iraq, Trump said that military commanders had repeatedly asked for 2,000 U.S. troops in Syria.

Some will claim that it is Trump who is undermining the process. White House officials had been working on a new Syria policy, and Trump’s announcement of another contrary policy of withdrawal took them by surprise. But should it? If White House officials are routinely steering Trump’s administration in a way that contravenes his wishes, it is safe to imagine that their advice and counsel to him is aimed at denying him options that comport with his instincts and impulses, especially when those run counter to the judgments made by military commanders and other senior advisers. In fact this is a major theme of the reporting about foreign policy in Trump Era: The Deep State is in the White House, and Trump appointed them. But managing a boss this way is dangerous. And the confusion over Syria shows it.

If Trump senses that he is being manipulated, then he is apt to go rogue when he gets new information from an outside source, if only to reassert his authority over his presidency. This may explain why, when talking to President Erdogan, Trump suddenly asked if Turkey (a NATO ally) could handle mopping up ISIS on its own. When Erdogan said yes, Trump immediately dictated to national-security adviser John Bolton over the line: “Start work for the withdrawal of U.S. troops from Syria.” In that exchange, it’s hard not to sense the president looking for options beyond those his advisers had given to him. In Erodogan’s commitment, Trump found a basis for making his own policy. His advisers rejected it.

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What makes this a true constitutional crisis is that both sides of the argument are correct. Those who are inclined to defer to the president’s wishes are absolutely right when they say a foreign policy and military establishment that stubbornly resists and undermines the president’s ability to act as commander-in-chief is essentially thwarting democracy, undermining the people’s ability to influence foreign policy through their choice of presidents.

However, those who are partial to the permanent foreign-policy staff, which is acting under extreme duress, are also correct: Advisers and subordinates owe the president their best counsel, and the United States cannot run a foreign policy as inconstant and unpredictable as the untutored impulses of man who won’t even stand behind his own orders to conclude U.S. operations in a war that has no congressional or popular support. In the normal course of things, presidents ought to show constancy. And in the normal course of things, subordinates to the president ought to do their best to translate his preferences into workable policy. In this case, neither is happening, and the apportionment of blame for this dormant crisis cannot be determined by reference to the Constitution and American governing norms; it is merely a judgment of the risks of leaning one way or the other.

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The potential political crisis is heightened precisely because Trump is the sort of person to disclaim responsibility and blame subordinates in a pinch. And also because Trump was elected while promising to resist and defy the conventional thinking in foreign policy, particularly in the Middle East.

So again, what happens if there is a tragedy that gets Americans asking what our men in uniform are doing in Syria? If Trump decides, like Reagan, that the political costs of continued U.S. involvement are unacceptable, how can he credibly announce a withdrawal, when his previous announcement was ignored and undermined? And if neither the public nor the Pentagon can take the word of the commander-in-chief seriously, exactly who will be accountable for our foreign policy? And what kind of mischief are we inviting America’s enemies to make in the interim?

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sorry but all these pardons
« Reply #1663 on: May 17, 2019, 07:54:17 AM »
clearly appear sleazy :

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/pat-nolan-trump-pardon-035008637.html

want a pardon

just kiss up to DJT and praise him or write a book telling us he is great.

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Re: President Trump
« Reply #1665 on: June 22, 2019, 02:52:31 PM »
one of these days he is going to have to put his money where his mouth is.

His pattern now obvious:

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/06/trump-administration-caution-center-right-government/

backs off removing criminal aliens - why?
because pelosi gave him a call or vice versa?


like she is going to do anything?

Crats  just approved another $5 billion to welcome the illegals with more food shelter legal aid ...........



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Re: President Trump
« Reply #1666 on: June 23, 2019, 02:25:36 PM »
I'd say he's been plenty fg serious on defending the border; I'm perfectly willing to see this as simply a matter of setting the table for when he actually pulls the trigger on this.

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Re: President Trump
« Reply #1667 on: June 23, 2019, 03:47:22 PM »
" .I'd say he's been plenty fg serious on defending the border"

more than any Repub or rat-o-crat

that said, the results are pitiful

he would have fired himself - if it weren't himself.



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Re: President Trump
« Reply #1668 on: June 23, 2019, 05:11:10 PM »
The Open Border Prog judges have ruled against him contra-constitutionally.

Change of the law(s) are what is required, but Deranged Demogogues control of House blocks that.

I'd say he's putting up a helluva fight-- and that is what I was hearing during a visit to CBP HQ in DC.
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Re: President Trump
« Reply #1669 on: June 23, 2019, 05:48:54 PM »
"I'd say he's putting up a helluva fight-- and that is what I was hearing during to CBP HQ in DC."

You were in DC for a hearing ?


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Re: President Trump
« Reply #1670 on: June 23, 2019, 09:10:17 PM »
Whoops-- left out "during a visit to"-- I've made correction.

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Re: President Trump, latest tweet uproar
« Reply #1671 on: July 17, 2019, 08:13:42 AM »
He attacked them for their hatred and shame of our country, not race.  The 'go back to where you came from' comment is playground level banter. Should he say stuff like that? No, but he knows how to get attention and no one else on our side does.

Only one of them came from another country in their lifetime, Ilhan Omar, and she was 13 when she left. She still sides with the terrorists over the United States on BlackHawk Down in her home Mogadishu, as one example of how Trump is right about this.Tlaib refers to the Palestinians as 'my people' so it is her choice if the comment applies to her.  She was born here. The tweet doesn't fit Ocasio Cortez although her native New York is crime-ridden and corrupt and so is her proud ancestry of Puerto Rico which is not a separate country.
 Her policies aim to make us more like the failure of these places. She was not named by Trump so it is her choice to apply his comments to her.  He said hatred of country so she assumed and we all assumed he was talking about her.

It is the Liberals, other liberals anyway,  who so often say they will leave the country if so-and-so is elected, Trump in this case. Turning that around, people like this with loyalties or allegiances elsewhere could use a little of their charm and wisdom to help those places. He said leave and come back as a suggestion and that it is their choice, obviously.  Again it is political or playground banter, to take it more seriously than that is to miss the point.

American sports hero Arthur Ashe retired from competition by his mid-thirties and spent the rest of his life giving back and trying to advance the lives of other black Americans. It cost him his life. These people tell us how bad our country is and how we have to change everything before they have experienced or accomplished anything. It is indelicate to say but maybe they could go to a place that needs their help and try their ideas there before making our country more like those failed places.

As badly as this has come across in the liberal and conservative media, people seem to get what he is saying.  They hate our country and all elected Democrats and candidates should be called out  as to whether they support or reject  these people's ideas.

Free People, free markets and rule of law is a system that works better than what these people are proposing.  They ought to look around the world and through history before they throw out what is great about the greatest country in history. That they weren't born there or didn't experience adulthood there is even more reason why they don't know how bad it is there or how good it is here.

Trump's strategy is larger than criticism of some unnamed people. He is trying to tie Nancy Pelosi, the Democratic House and all the Democratic candidates to the spewed hatred of the people they are now calling the squad. The Democrats bought his taunt hook, line and sinker.

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President Trump and go back where you came from
« Reply #1672 on: July 17, 2019, 06:40:56 PM »
The media screams while most Americans silently agree.

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Just curious
« Reply #1673 on: July 28, 2019, 11:46:01 AM »

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Re: President Trump
« Reply #1675 on: July 28, 2019, 07:27:18 PM »
I've been wrong before, but I am reminded of my claim for my street material-- "die less often".  On any given shiny object twitterfest, he somehow comes out ahead, but net overall there is a price that will be paid.

Edited to add:

There he comes out ahead again , , , somehow :-D

https://www.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/movies/bs-fe-rat-film-20180226-story.html?fbclid=IwAR0Hty0k9RQsMD3dYg4jWwacV_pZr8GnRiZSo2wWehfy-6ybj2i9NPq0qR4
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Re: President Trump
« Reply #1676 on: July 29, 2019, 06:55:35 AM »
Anybody objective can see he attacks those who attack him.  He isn't attacking Candace Owens for example.  The problem with Omar, Sharpton, Cumming is not race and no one said it is.  Well they happen to be black.  Ok, how about Jim Acosta?  I don't watch CNN but he looks like a middle aged, white divorced guy according to his bio on wikipedia.

If they hadn't already called Mitt Romney, George Bush, Reagan and Nancy Pelosi a racist, maybe people would take alarm at hearing them call Donald Trump one.

My rebuttal to the Left is this, why are afraid of debating the issues and the merits of your policies head-on?

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Re: President Trump
« Reply #1677 on: July 29, 2019, 11:26:11 AM »
I've been wrong before, but I am reminded of my claim for my street material-- "die less often".  On any given shiny object twitterfest, he somehow comes out ahead, but net overall there is a price that will be paid.

Edited to add:

There he comes out ahead again , , , somehow :-D

https://www.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/movies/bs-fe-rat-film-20180226-story.html?fbclid=IwAR0Hty0k9RQsMD3dYg4jWwacV_pZr8GnRiZSo2wWehfy-6ybj2i9NPq0qR4

Who knew PBS was a white supremacist media outlet?

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nearly all the polls show Trump favorability down
« Reply #1679 on: July 30, 2019, 04:17:05 PM »
I guess I am in minority here but I say he is squandering his favor with all but the core of us who will support him no matter what.
And I say it is the darn impulsive tweets:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/trump_favorableunfavorable-5493.html

That said the question is can the Dems come up with anyone else ?
I hope and pray NOT.

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Re: President Trump
« Reply #1680 on: July 30, 2019, 07:18:23 PM »
I confess I haven't a clue-- I do think he could do MUCH better at unifying and calling to the positive as well as brawling.

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Re: President Trump
« Reply #1681 on: July 30, 2019, 08:21:46 PM »
When called a racist by some elderly dem kleptocrat, one should immediately grovel and apologize. Certainly never fight back!

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Re: President Trump
« Reply #1682 on: July 31, 2019, 05:35:21 AM »
" .When called a racist by some elderly dem kleptocrat, one should immediately grovel and apologize. Certainly never fight back!"

I want him to fight back ; just not the WAY  he is doing it.

I could be wrong but I think he would win more people over with ideas rather then the personal attacks.

You can see the poll numbers.  Why do you think his unfavorability numbers are so high?"

It ain't because the economy is good.

And I don't forget that we will sooner and hopefully later have a Democrat President.  The next one might be worse than Brock (if possible).

Do we want her to be calling us all racist etc etc all day long?




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Re: President Trump
« Reply #1683 on: July 31, 2019, 12:34:09 PM »
I want him to fight back ; just not the WAY  he is doing it.

I could be wrong but I think he would win more people over with ideas rather then the personal attacks.

You can see the poll numbers.  Why do you think his unfavorability numbers are so high?"

It ain't because the economy is good.

And I don't forget that we will sooner and hopefully later have a Democrat President.  The next one might be worse than Brock (if possible).

Do we want her to be calling us all racist etc etc all day long?

I'm afraid we have to let Trump be Trump, for better and worse.  There is no switch for him to be a more conventional politician.  Tweets are how he overcomes 100% MSM liberal bias.  George Bush just sat there and took it.  McCain, Romney, ditto.  Add Ryan, McConnell, and all the rest to the list.  The outrageous sounding things he says are how he draw attention and it mostly works.  Time after time he is a step ahead of them.  His tweets are the laser pointer and the Left are the cats.

Best we can hope for is some filter on it.  Don't call war heroes scum.  Don't brag about grabbing pussy, but that was a hidden microphone, not a tweet, and was  from back when he was a registered Democrat.  He has improved.  It turns out his 'why don't you go back and make it better and then return' spurt did not say send her back and did not say race.  He did not say Baltimore was infested with blacks; he said it was infested with rats.  He actually had the nerve to hit back at Al Sharpton.  I'll bet some of that boldness helps him with black voters.

 We don't like that he personalizes his attacks but these are counterpunches to people who call him racist and worse.

Civility into fair coverage would be nicer but it isn't going to happen in our lifetimes.  Civility and honesty and moderation are what swing district suburban voters supposedly want and then they vote for far Leftists who have none of it.  Keep your plan, keep your doctor, those people are bitter clingers, deplorables, the dregs of society, they want to put you back in chains, we will not even hear arguments because this is settled science, blah, blah.  Yeah, that's honesty, civility - not!

The way they define it, we are racists.  They overused and misused the term and now it means nothing.  Lower tax rates for everyone means we are rigging the system for ourselves, and protecting the unborn, mostly girls, means stomping on women's rights.  Right.  Buying a couple of ads and showing up for debates every four years does not counteract all that bullshit messaging that has permeated k-12, all college and media.  Trump is using Leftists tactics against them - and they can't stand it.

Democrats don't care more about those in need.  We can prove that a hundred different ways but we never seem to get the chance.  It turns out it takes the communications skills of this reality show star, not a Harvard lecturer type, to actually get the chance to make the point.
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Re: President Trump
« Reply #1684 on: July 31, 2019, 12:40:10 PM »
Exactly!

I want him to fight back ; just not the WAY  he is doing it.

I could be wrong but I think he would win more people over with ideas rather then the personal attacks.

You can see the poll numbers.  Why do you think his unfavorability numbers are so high?"

It ain't because the economy is good.

And I don't forget that we will sooner and hopefully later have a Democrat President.  The next one might be worse than Brock (if possible).

Do we want her to be calling us all racist etc etc all day long?

I'm afraid we have to let Trump be Trump, for better and worse.  There is no switch to being a more conventional politician.  Tweets are how overcomes 100% msm liberal bias.  George Bush just sat there and took it.  McCain, Romney, ditto.  The outrageous sounding things he says draw attention to it.  Time after time he is a step ahead of them.  His tweets are the laser pointer and they are the cats.

Best we can hope for is some filter on it.  Don't call war heroes scum.  Don't brag about grabbing pussy, but that was a hidden microphone, not a tweet and was  from back when he was a registered Democrat.  He has improved.  It turns out his why don't you go back and make it better and return spurt did not say send her back and did not say race.  He did not say Baltimore was infested with blacks; he said it was infested with rats.  He actually had the nerve to hit back at Al Sharpton.  I'll bet some of his boldness helps him with black voters.

 We don't like that he personalizes his attacks but these are counterpunches to people who call him a racist and worse.

Civility into fair coverage would be nicer but it isn't going to happen in our lifetimes.  Civility and honesty are what swing district suburban voters supposedly want and then they vote for Leftists who really have none of it.  Keep your plan, keep your doctor, those people are bitter clingers, deplorables, the dregs of society, want to put you back in chains, we will not even hear arguments of settled science, blah, blah.  Yeah, that's honesty, civility - not!

The way they define it, we are racists.  They overused and misused the term and now it means nothing.  Lower tax rates for everyone means we are rigging the system for ourselves, and protecting the unborn, mostly girls, means taking stomping on women's rights.  Buying a couple of ads and showing up for debates every four years does not counteract all that bullshit messaging.  Trump is using Leftists tactics against them - and they can't stand it.

Democrats don't care more about those in need.  We can prove that a hundred different ways - but it turns out it takes the communications skills of this reality show star, not a Harvard lecturer type, to actually get the chance to make the point.

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Re: President Trump
« Reply #1685 on: July 31, 2019, 02:29:38 PM »
WWWOOOFFF!!!

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Re: President Trump
« Reply #1686 on: July 31, 2019, 03:06:37 PM »
" .I'm afraid we have to let Trump be Trump, for better and worse."

Like Rush said couple days back

The total never Trumpers are few in the Republican party
The mega maga types are probably the majority but we have a sizable portion who hold their nose with his tweets while know the alternative is a Dem who will "f" up this country good and plenty.




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Re: President Trump: Buy Greenland? Siberia?
« Reply #1688 on: August 19, 2019, 11:38:08 AM »
I thought I was being original with the idea that our real estate developer President should buy Siberia:
https://dogbrothers.com/phpBB2/index.php?topic=1677.msg111811#msg111811
https://dogbrothers.com/phpBB2/index.php?topic=1103.msg113704#msg113704
https://dogbrothers.com/phpBB2/index.php?topic=2666.msg114971#msg114971

It turns out Walter Russell Mead made that suggestion in the LAT in 1992:
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1992-07-19-op-4526-story.html

Now the rumor is that Trump wants to buy Greenland.  Greenland has responded to the rumor by saying it is not for sale.  Let the negotiations begin!
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/not-for-sale-danish-officials-unanimously-reject-trumps-interest-in-buying-greenland/

How about the residents vote on their allegiance.  Same for Siberia.

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Re: President Trump: Buy Greenland? Siberia?
« Reply #1689 on: August 19, 2019, 07:47:10 PM »
China is quietly taking over Siberia through a policy of facilitating illegal immigration. Good thing that can't happen here!


I thought I was being original with the idea that our real estate developer President should buy Siberia:
https://dogbrothers.com/phpBB2/index.php?topic=1677.msg111811#msg111811
https://dogbrothers.com/phpBB2/index.php?topic=1103.msg113704#msg113704
https://dogbrothers.com/phpBB2/index.php?topic=2666.msg114971#msg114971

It turns out Walter Russell Mead made that suggestion in the LAT in 1992:
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1992-07-19-op-4526-story.html

Now the rumor is that Trump wants to buy Greenland.  Greenland has responded to the rumor by saying it is not for sale.  Let the negotiations begin!
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/not-for-sale-danish-officials-unanimously-reject-trumps-interest-in-buying-greenland/

How about the residents vote on their allegiance.  Same for Siberia.

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Re: What he actually said about Jewish loyalty
« Reply #1691 on: August 22, 2019, 07:20:30 AM »

https://israelunwired.com/what-trump-really-said-about-jews-and-the-democratic-party/

These new congressional members openly advocate condemnation and destruction of the Jewish state of Israel.  American Jews need to sort out whether this is just a couple of wackos or whether it is the new voices and direction of the Democratic party.  This is not the equivalent of falsely associating a few skinhead white supremacists with the conservative movement which is all about rights and  opportunities for all.  These congresswomen are sponsored by terror organizations and have a seat at the table INSIDE the Democrat caucus setting votes  and policies.  They are using an megaphone amplified by the party and the media to shout out their anti-Israel hatred while Trump is
 building the closest ties with Israel perhaps ever.

The Dem party is not tolerating a variety of views on any issue.  Democrats already silenced and chased out all pro-life members and has zero tolerance for a pragmatic view on climate or a law enforcement approach to immigration.  Does being part of the American Left means hating Israel and calling for its destruction?  There isn't tolerance in that movement for two views on this.  Defeat these people from inside your party or you are joining them.  Trump is calling out the choice faced by everyone on Israel and it hits Jewish Americans most personally.


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Re: VDH, Trump, compared to whom?
« Reply #1693 on: August 29, 2019, 04:58:49 PM »
https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/08/comparison-trump-record-former-presidents-current-critics/?fbclid=IwAR3QXIxSr5vmgSeHEOSxqEttFJMRPfZDaebsZdJSq0sPZYZutdeUqJzYu4A

VDH is going to be a great resource in the campaign.

"To counter every signature Trump issue, there is almost no rational alternative advanced." ...
"they’re offering the heat of hatred rather than the light of a viable political alternative."
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"What are the advantages of returning to the Paris climate accord? Or reentering the missile deal with Vladimir Putin? Who was subverting NATO: the reckless, tough-talking Trump, or the German-led membership that never had much intention of meeting their prior “2 percent” promises? How exactly did Barack Obama’s whines about “free riders” persuade some NATO nations to reconsider their broken promises on defense expenditures?"


   - It is silly season that we are seeing general election polls before anyone debates any of these questions.

"Trump’s crime is that, without sanitized surgical gloves, he completely ripped the scab off what we call “journalism” and exposed a festering wound of narcissistic, mostly incompetent, and utterly partisan reportage."

   - Yes he did!  Do the people really get it even now that the prestigious NY Times and prestigious Washington Post won the prestigious Pulitzer Prize based on 5 articles each that were all based on fake news, making this accuracy-challenged President right and all of them wrong!

"does the Left tell us how many barrels of oil per day and cubic feet of natural gas they would wish to curtail, or whether the resulting higher costs for fuel, heating, and power are worth the cutbacks, or whether we wish to return to strategic dependence on Persian Gulf psychodramas? Do they have a plan to deal with Indian and Chinese coal-burning if we were to radically cut the use of clean-burning natural gas? Do they know why the signees of the Paris climate accord for the most part have not and will not meet their promises while the U.S. has?
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What exactly are the Never Trump and progressive alternative agendas? In the latter case, are we to expect that top income-tax rate of 70 percent, a wealth tax, the Green New Deal, reparations, free health care for illegal aliens, Medicare for all, cancellation of $1.5 trillion in college debt, and free college tuition will avoid the now looked-for recession?
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Did he whip racial animosity in the manner of Elizabeth Warren by falsely alleging that the Ferguson shooting, thoroughly investigated by the Obama Justice Department, was murder?"



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Donald : listen to Conrad
« Reply #1694 on: September 12, 2019, 05:57:16 PM »
for God's sakes

and you better not tweet something obnoxious to this guy now:

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/man-trump-once-called-my-african-american-leaves-republican-party

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Re: President Trump at the United Nations
« Reply #1696 on: September 25, 2019, 02:20:27 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=TzufjsnCa7Y

PHENOMENAL speech!  In a very calm tone that everyone has said they want to hear him use and right to their faces he called out all the major players and all the major issues in the world, China, Iran, North Korea, Taliban, Venezuela, organized crime involved with  migration.  He called out socialism and he called out totalitarianism. 

Full transcript at this link, just scroll below the video:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/09/24/full_replay_president_trump_rails_against_globalists_china_iran_in_speech_to_un_general_assembly.html

In the same calm tone he just finished a live press conference to wrap up the UN appearance.  He looks and sounds, um, ... presidential.

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Re: President Trump
« Reply #1697 on: September 25, 2019, 03:26:34 PM »

Doug wrote :

"In the same calm tone he just finished a live press conference to wrap up the UN appearance.  He looks and sounds, um, ... presidential."

From the anti Trump liberal young lad David A Graham who writes for the Leftist  'the Atlantic' :

" When Donald Trump stepped to the dais at the United Nations General Assembly yesterday, he had a speech full of sharp lines: swipes at socialism, assertions of nationalism versus globalism, harsh words for Iran. Though Trump doesn’t enjoy delivering scripted remarks, he sounded listless, tired, and bored even by his own standards, struggling through the speech."

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/09/trump-panicking/598807/

If Trump had been giving a bellicose speech they would be criticizing him for being a loud mouth lune. 
So he is subdued and they criticize him as appearing like a weak injured deer in the headlight.  Injured by the Dems injured by the whistleblower, injured by Nancy P.

 :roll:

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please don't say shit like this
« Reply #1698 on: September 26, 2019, 04:13:07 PM »
I would like . to know who the blower is and we will find out but

sorry Donald this is over the top
you can't threaten execution sorry
please stop this talk .  for goodness sakes:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-attacks-whistle-blowers-sources-and-alludes-to-punishment-for-spies/ar-AAHTvMV

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FEd asking Trump to stop asking countries and my confession
« Reply #1699 on: October 04, 2019, 08:23:20 AM »
to help HIM politically
and frankly I agree:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/after-trump-solicits-biden-investigations-from-china-and-ukraine-fec-chair-post-reminder-that-doing-so-is-illegal-193941937.html

I wish he would stop doing this .  It IS really bad . To think he is asking communist china to help him politically IS beyond the pale.
China for sure is already dreaming of ways to use this to its' advantage
If a Democrat pres was doing this we would be going nuts


My confession:
Sorry but Trump is going crazy.
If he would only shut the hell up .
I am sick of hearing his drama daily.