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WSJ on Sinema
« Reply #950 on: October 06, 2021, 01:08:26 PM »
‘Hi, I’m Kyrsten. I’m in the Arizona House and I’m a socialist.” That’s how the woman who’s now her state’s senior U.S. senator introduced herself to me when we met at an immigration conference in 2006. I found her to be more complicated than a slogan. I told her I worked for a federally sponsored job-training program in college and learned that she is a former social worker who is suspicious of impersonal bureaucracies and genuinely curious about other people.

Lately she’s become a pariah on the left for her skepticism of the $3.5 trillion Biden budget extravaganza. Detractors harassed her in a public restroom to cheers from some media figures. “Saturday Night Live” portrayed her as an obstructionist who’s too ditsy to know what she wants. There’s talk of a primary challenge in 2024.

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The anger is explained in part by her history on the left. Yet she’s built a bipartisan coalition in swing-state Arizona. The polling firm Bendixen & Amandi found that 52% of Arizona Democrats and 51% of Republicans view her favorably.

She showed signs of her heterodoxy before her 2018 Senate election. In an ad for that campaign, she deplored how people in Washington “are more interested in their talking points and their ideology than getting stuff done.” This May, the Arizona Republic asked her what her long-term strategy in the Senate was. “Most folks in Arizona aren’t thinking to themselves: ‘What is the government doing for me today?’ ” she said. “They’re often thinking about what the government is doing to me today, right?”


She continued: “I want Arizonans to, 1), not have to think about their government very much. But, 2), when they do, to think to themselves: ‘Well, that it is at least a little less bad than it used to be, it’s less painful than it used to be and Kyrsten has done some work to help make my life a little bit easier and a little bit better.’ ” That restrained legislative approach drives progressives nuts, but calmer ones who know her say it’s rooted in her belief that both the hard right and the hard left are good at arguing but bad at governance.

“Sinema might become a respected, legitimate post-partisan national figure,” says Mike McKenna, former deputy director for legislative affairs in Donald Trump’s White House. “Like Trump, she has the capacity to scramble traditional power structures—but from the other side.”

Ms. Sinema says she can’t be pushed around by either party. Maybe that’s because she does know what she wants. She believes in incremental reform, and that usually sticks only if it’s bipartisan. In her 2009 book, “Unite and Conquer: How to Build Coalitions That Win—and Last,” she wrote of “the dread disease” of “identity politics” and how liberals too quickly embrace the “mantle of victimhood.”

She has said job creation should be Washington’s No. 1 policy goal, and she believes that best happens without vastly higher taxes, debt and new entitlements. That’s a moderate platform, one I bet a majority of the American people, tired of political squabbling, could get behind. The question both parties should be asking isn’t “What does Kyrsten Sinema want?” but “What if Kyrsten Sinema is right?”

Mr. Fund is a National Review columnist and co-author of “Our Broken Elections: Ho

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Re: WSJ on Sinema
« Reply #951 on: October 06, 2021, 02:02:27 PM »
‘Hi, I’m Kyrsten. I’m in the Arizona House and I’m a socialist.”

"She has said job creation should be Washington’s No. 1 policy goal, and she believes that best happens without vastly higher taxes, debt and new entitlements."
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I've tried not to gush too positively yet about Democrat Senators Manchin and Sinema saving the Republic out of fear they will turn on us before my written word is read.  That said, great courage shown so far by these two.  Can't say that about my faux-moderate Representative Dean Phillips of big-vodka who votes with Nancy Pelosi 100% of the time and with anti-American Rep. Omar more than 90% of the time.

If Sinema wants to create jobs, we have a party for that, and it's not the job destruction party where she currently resides.  Read the forum; take a look at the Republican results that preceded her.

It would be even easier for Joe Manchin to switch parties.  Everyone else in his situation already has.


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Re: WSJ on Sinema
« Reply #953 on: November 03, 2021, 11:02:16 AM »
There is a long tradition of a Washington hack playing "Independent Arizonan" and then doing the dem dirty work after playing it up to the voters back home.

Then again, the local dem lunatics have been doing their best to piss her off.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/10/mother-bride-weeps-begs-raging-leftists-not-ruin-daughters-wedding-arizona-video/


‘Hi, I’m Kyrsten. I’m in the Arizona House and I’m a socialist.”

"She has said job creation should be Washington’s No. 1 policy goal, and she believes that best happens without vastly higher taxes, debt and new entitlements."
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I've tried not to gush too positively yet about Democrat Senators Manchin and Sinema saving the Republic out of fear they will turn on us before my written word is read.  That said, great courage shown so far by these two.  Can't say that about my faux-moderate Representative Dean Phillips of big-vodka who votes with Nancy Pelosi 100% of the time and with anti-American Rep. Omar more than 90% of the time.

If Sinema wants to create jobs, we have a party for that, and it's not the job destruction party where she currently resides.  Read the forum; take a look at the Republican results that preceded her.

It would be even easier for Joe Manchin to switch parties.  Everyone else in his situation already has.

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have to clean house
« Reply #954 on: November 12, 2021, 06:48:27 AM »
especially in red states

there is no excuse for her to be voted back:

https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2021/11/12/murkowski-defiant-im-running-for-re-election-n428775

From Dougs post in way forward for repubs:

"Each state, house district etc., IMO, needs to choose the most conservative candidate - that can win in that state or district.  Same for the Presidency.  They need to be focused and disciplined, not make the mistakes that sank others recently.  Get a message and stay on message; this is not about rape abortions, secession, or shooting our way out of this mess."

There is NO excuse to have a murkowski in red Alaska.
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Congressional races 2022, Dems making their own bad situation worse
« Reply #956 on: December 23, 2021, 08:28:11 AM »
I would rate the political bias of this as neutral.  Amy Walters at Cook Political Report:

https://www.cookpolitical.com/analysis/national/national-politics/democrats-build-back-better-strategy-puts-democratic-incumbents

From the article:

It's not hard to figure out what these GOP attack ads in battleground Senate races in states held by Democrats like New Hampshire, Nevada, Arizona and Georgia would look like. They would most likely feature this exchange Manchin had with FOX News Sunday host Bret Baier:

"And you know, my concerns I had, and I still have these concerns and where I'm at right now, the inflation that I was concerned about, it's not transitory, it's real, it's harming every West Virginian. It's making it almost difficult for them to continue, to go to their jobs, the cost of gasoline, the cost of groceries, the cost of utility bills — all of these things are hitting in every aspect of their life."

We should also expect to see this quote from Manchin's written statement opposing the current BBB: "the bill will also risk the reliability of our electric grid and increase our dependence on foreign supply chains."
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[Doug] Isn't it strange that everyone but the Democrats in power seem to know their agenda and its consequences are unpopular (hated) by the American people.

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Lieberman: Bring Back Regular Order
« Reply #957 on: December 23, 2021, 09:27:04 AM »
Bring Back ‘Regular Order’
First, our elected leaders have to commit to getting things done for their country and constituents.
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Sen. Joe Manchin arrives for a Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee meeting in Washington, Nov. 18.
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Sen. Joe Manchin’s opposition to the Build Back Better bill this week and John McCain’s thumbs down to the repeal of ObamaCare four years ago together are an urgent appeal for Congress and the White House to find bipartisan solutions to America’s problems.

The words Sens. McCain and Manchin used to explain their courageous views should inspire members of Congress and the president to follow their example. That would break Washington’s gridlock and might ease the destructive division among the American people.

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“I’ve stated time and again,” McCain declared after his vote, “that one of the major failures of ObamaCare was that it was rammed through the Congress by Democrats on a strict party-line basis. . . . We need to deliver a bill that will finally deliver affordable healthcare for the American people.”

This week, Mr. Manchin said very similar words: “I cannot move forward on this mammoth piece of legislation,” which is “not targeting things we should be doing, making sure that people who truly need it are getting it. . . . We have things we can do in a bipartisan way—the way the Senate is supposed to work. . . . Just go through the committees. Let’s work it.”

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McCain closed his argument against repealing ObamaCare: “Let’s trust each other. Let’s return to regular order. We have been spinning our wheels on too many important issues because we keep trying to find a way to win without help from across the aisle.” In urging his colleagues to “return to regular order,” he used a term from the Senate dictionary that is unknown to most Americans but imperative for our elected lawmakers to revive.


“Regular order” refers to the rules and precedents of the Senate that have let members accomplish great things for our country. “Regular order” requires that a legislative proposal be referred to the appropriate committee, where it is given a public hearing, then discussed, debated, and amended by members of both parties on the committee. If it has the support of a majority in committee, it is sent to the full Senate, where it is debated again and opened for amendments by members of both parties, after which a final yea-or-nay vote is called. That, as Mr. Manchin said, is “the way the Senate is supposed to work.”

“Regular order” is a sensible process that is open to public view and invites bipartisan collaboration in the national interest.

But “regular order” is more than Senate rules and precedents. To work, it requires an attitude toward public service that we haven’t seen much of in Washington in recent years from either party. It begins with a personal decision by elected leaders that their primary purpose is to get things done for their country and constituents, and that getting things done matters more to them than pleasing their party, their campaign contributors, or the increasingly partisan media. “Regular order” requires a willingness to reach common ground—to meet with colleagues of both parties with humility, trust, civility and an open mind, and then to talk, negotiate, and compromise to get the votes necessary to enact good laws.

American history is full of examples of “regular order” working—from the Constitutional Convention, where the Founders resolved differences to enable our new country to survive, to the great bipartisan agreements of more recent times—President Johnson and Sen. Everett Dirksen on civil-rights laws, President Reagan and Speaker Tip O’Neill on Social Security reform, and President Clinton and Speaker Newt Gingrich on balancing the federal budget. This shows how much progress “regular order” can enable if the president and bipartisan congressional majorities put it into practice, as President Biden and Congress recently did in enacting the Bipartisan Infrastructure Reform Bill.

Joe Manchin and John McCain appealed to their colleagues to do better for America and showed how it can be done.

Mr. Lieberman is national co-chairman of the bipartisan political-action committee No Labels. He was the Democratic vice-presidential nominee in 2000 and a U.S. senator from Connecticut, 1989-2013.

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The US Congress does next to nothing on China
« Reply #958 on: December 28, 2021, 02:09:25 AM »
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Lawmakers on Capitol Hill agree Beijing poses threat

Unable to decide how to write bill to handle it

BY JOSEPH CLARK THE WASHINGTON TIMES

Just three of Congress’ record 238 bills targeting Beijing in 2021 passed both chambers, with key legislation languishing in committees.

Lawmakers on both sides of the aisle ramped up tough-on-China rhetoric this year and introduced a slew of bills aimed at reducing U.S. reliance on Chinese goods, countering Beijing’s military aggression in the Pacific and bolstering the U.S. commitment to Taiwan.

Almost nothing reached President Biden’s desk.

“Across the U.S. political spectrum, there is agreement that China is a threat. … But there’s no agreement on what to do about it,” said Gordon Chang, a conservative critic of China and author of “The Great U.S.-China Tech War.”

Indeed, tough-on-China rhetoric has emerged as a rare unifier on Capitol Hill.

Since 2018, the number of bills aimed at countering Beijing soared. Between 2010 and 2018, lawmakers introduced on average 45 bills per year that contained China or Taiwan as the main legislative subject as assigned by the Library of Congress.

Last Congress, which spanned 2019 and 2020, lawmakers introduced a total of 379 measures with the same legislative subject terms.

This year alone — halfway through the 117th Congress — lawmakers have introduced 238

bills aimed at China, but both chambers hit a wall when it came to moving the legislation over the finish line.

Of the measures introduced in the previous Congress, 14 became law.

One of the most significant measures targeting China this year — the diplomatic boycott of the Beijing Winter Olympics — was achieved through executive action by Mr. Biden, though it was spurred by calls from lawmakers.

The White House cited the communist government’s ongoing persecution of Uyghur Muslims in China’s Xinjiang region.

Australia, Canada and the United Kingdom have joined the U.S. in officially shunning the games. Japan announced that it will not send an official delegation but stopped short of announcing a full diplomatic boycott.

The rebuke, however, was purely symbolic.

When it comes to legislative action to counter Beijing — whether it is trade abuses, theft of U.S. intellectual property, the dominance of high-tech manufacturing or the growing military threat — Congress remains mostly gridlocked.

“There is a failure to perceive the situation,” Mr. Chang said. “Both houses should believe that we’ve got one problem right now that is overarching, and that makes other problems minor in comparison.”

Republicans blame Congress’ Democratic majorities for the holdup this year.

Sen. Bill Hagerty said the Democratic leaders’ priorities play into China’s hands.

“As our strategic adversary, Communist China presents the gravest national security threat to the United States in the 21st century,” said the Tennessee Republican. “It’s unfortunate that Speaker [Nancy] Pelosi and Leader [Charles E.] Schumer have prioritized their biggovernment socialism bills that would cripple our economy, destroy the fossil fuel industry, and have China laughing all the way to the bank, instead of prioritizing bipartisan legislation that truly can help the United States meet the China challenge.”

Senate Foreign Relations Chairman Robert Menendez, New Jersey Democrat, pushed back against the criticism.

He said the U.S. Innovation and Competition Act (USICA), which contains several measures to make bolster competition with China, was “one of the first orders of business this session of Congress.”

“It seems to me that it did receive not only a high priority by putting it out but also widespread bipartisan support, which is incredibly important particularly in sending a message to China that it is a united front view,” he said.

However, the USICA bill hasn’t won final approval from Congress.

For months, both chambers have toiled with separate versions of legislation that combines a wide swath of tough-on-China measures put forward by lawmakers.

In June, the Senate passed the $250 billion USICA, which combined several bills into a 2,276 page China catchall. Eighteen Republicans and all 50 Democrats voted in favor of the bill.

The House version, on the other hand, has been plagued by months of stalled negotiations.

Last month, Mr. Schumer of New York and Mrs. Pelosi of California announced that the two chambers had begun the process of smoothing out differences between the two bills. They vowed to “deliver a final piece of legislation to the president’s desk as soon as possible.”

Few signs of progress have emerged as party leaders have had to scramble to avoid a government shutdown, raise the debt ceiling and move on Mr. Biden’s social welfare spending package before year-end.

Hashing out the differences between the two versions could take months.

Despite the stalled progress on the bills, Congress’ hard-line stance toward China has not gone unnoticed by Beijing. And any new legislation is sure to face an onslaught of pushback.

Last month, Reuters reported that officials from China’s embassy in Washington sent letters to U.S. executives and business groups pressuring them to lobby against bills being floated in Congress to boost U.S. competitiveness against China.

The letters warned that U.S. companies would lose market share in China should those bills become law.

The three bills that did pass both chambers in 2021 went after Chinese technology, bolstered U.S. military posture in the Pacific and restricted imports of products made with Chinese forced labor.

The House and Senate also approved some resolutions in 2021 that expressed the sense or opinion of one of the chambers but did not set policy or trigger government action.

The House passed two resolutions, one condemning the genocide against Uyghur Muslims and another condemning the Chinese Communist Party’s crackdown in Hong Kong. The Senate passed one resolution expressing the need to conduct a comprehensive investigation into the origins of COVID-19.


The House passed two tough-on-China resolutions this year, one condemned the genocide against the Uyghur Muslims in the Xinjiang region. The White House cited the genocide as a reason for its diplomatic boycott of the Beijing Winter Olympics. ASSOCIATED PRESS

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Re: The US Congress; Congressional races
« Reply #959 on: December 28, 2021, 08:05:48 AM »
"Lawmakers on Capitol Hill agree Beijing poses threat"

20 yrs late

geniuses

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Sen Dick Durbin, 2018, Do away with the filibuster would be "end of the Senate"
« Reply #960 on: January 01, 2022, 12:19:51 PM »
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/week-transcript-21-18-marc-short-sen-dick/story?id=52490864
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STEPHANOPOULOS: What about that nuclear option, doing away with the filibuster?

DURBIN: Well, I can tell you that would be the end of the Senate as it was originally devised and created going back to our Founding Fathers. We have to acknowledge our respect for the minority, and that is what the Senate tries to do in its composition and in its procedure.
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Not exactly perfect with his history, but very clear on his position in 2018

2021-2022, They can't wait to end it.  What changed?  Control of the Senate flipped.

Isn't that hypocritical?   Whatever.
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Re: Vox : 95% chance Republicans take the House and Senate
« Reply #962 on: January 04, 2022, 10:17:47 AM »

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Re: The US Congress; Congressional races
« Reply #963 on: January 04, 2022, 10:40:49 AM »
Breyer is not a fool — he knows this is the dynamic, and while it likely pains him to be seen as responding to political concerns, I suspect he will ultimately let Biden pick his successor. —DM

hopefully repubs control the senate
and state it is not right for a demented fool to pick a successor so close to the next election

and wait for a repub to take back the white house!

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« Reply #966 on: January 04, 2022, 10:55:26 AM »
A lefty doctor friend with whom I frequently email spar gave me a gift subscription:

The Radicalization of J.D. Vance
As he runs for the Senate, the ‘Hillbilly Elegy’ author has gone from media darling to establishment pariah. Is his new, fiery, right-wing persona an act? Or is something more interesting going on?

(Jonathan Barlett for The Washington Post; reference photos by Astrid Riecken and the J.D. Vance campaign)
By Simon van Zuylen-Wood
JANUARY 4, 2022
   
Let’s start with the beard. J.D. Vance didn’t used to have one. The Vance who in 2016 achieved incandescent literary fame with his memoir “Hillbilly Elegy” was all baby fat and rounded edges. The Vance I’m watching now, from the back of a coffee shop in the depressed steel town of Steubenville, Ohio, has covered up his softer side. In small-format events like this one, addressing a couple dozen primary voters, he spends about 15 minutes attacking corporate and governmental elites for failing the country, then answers questions and mingles for maybe another 45 minutes. Vance, 37, is comfortable in the folksy idiom of GOP campaigning (e.g., “she loved the Lord, she loved the f-word — that’s what Mamaw was”) but he tends to gloss over his famously traumatic childhood, immortalized on screen in Ron Howard’s 2020 film adaptation of his book. In Steubenville, he paces the room with a Big Gulp-sized foam cup in his hand, an Everyman touch that accentuates his new aesthetic.

I’m not the only one thinking about J.D. Vance’s beard. Recently, I asked one of his law school friends to tell me about his personality. “He’s lovely,” the friend said, describing Vance’s smile and laugh. Then he paused. He wanted to talk about Vance’s facial hair. Even as a slightly older law student — Vance had served four years in the Marines before enrolling at Ohio State as an undergraduate — he came across as guileless, boyish. No longer. “He looks different,” the friend said. “He’s going for a kind of severe masculinism thing. He looks like Donald Trump Jr.” Toward the end of our conversation, which was mostly about the way the culture shock of Yale Law School informed Vance’s politics, I asked the friend if he wanted to discuss anything else. He returned to the beard. “That’s honestly occupied an outsized amount of my attention,” he said.

The beard isn’t a bad symbol for Vance’s U.S. Senate campaign — or at least for how that campaign is being received. Discourse around the race centers mostly on the idea that Vance is a changed or fraudulent person. Five years ago, Vance was eloquently decoding Donald Trump supporters for liberal elites, while lamenting the rise of Trump himself. Vance, whose mother is a recovering heroin user, compared Trump to an opioid, calling him an “easy escape from the pain.” Now, since announcing his run, he’s reversed himself on Trump and adopted a bellicose persona at odds with the sensitive, bookish J.D. of his memoir. On Veterans Day, 48 hours after the Steubenville event, Vance tweeted that LeBron James — of Akron, Ohio — is “one of the most vile public figures in our country.” (James had joked that Kenosha, Wis., shooter Kyle Rittenhouse “ate some lemon heads” before crying on the stand during his trial.) Watching Vance campaign, I felt him straining to deliver his talking points in an angry register. It wasn’t just that steel jobs had been offshored; they were outsourced by “idiots” in Washington, to countries that “hate us.”

Commentary about Vance from Never-Trumpers and liberals tends to strike a note of personal chagrin about his evolving image. Pundit Mona Charen, writing about Vance as if he had died, called him an “extremely bright and insightful man who could have been a fresh voice for a fundamentally conservative view of the world.” Frank Bruni of the New York Times predicted that a Vance tweet about Alec Baldwin’s recent accidental shooting incident would “endure as one of the boldest markers of his descent.” In Ohio, meanwhile, the pressure on Vance runs entirely in the opposite direction. Every campaign stop he makes, he patiently tries to explain away his past Never-Trumpism, which has been exhumed in the form of deleted tweets and “Charlie Rose” clips. An attack ad playing his anti-Trump sound bites ends with a woman saying, “That’s the real J.D. Vance.”


Vance’s friends split the difference: They say he’s the same guy but he’s been radicalized. “I think he’s gotten a lot more bitter and cynical — appropriately,” conservative blogger Rod Dreher told me. To Dreher, the change in tone is justified by the course of American politics over the past five years. “Trump remained Trump — but the Left went berserk,” he wrote in a post defending Vance. Still, Dreher — who attended Vance’s 2019 baptism into the Catholic Church — worries about the toll campaigning is taking on his friend. “S--t-posting has become the signature style of young radicals on the right, and this is particularly a hazard I think for Christians,” he told me.

The surface-level changes are indeed striking. Yet the more I watched him, the more it seemed to me that the emerging canon of “what happened to J.D. Vance” commentary was missing the point. Vance’s new political identity isn’t so much a façade or a reversal as an expression of an alienated worldview that is, in fact, consistent with his life story. And now there’s an ideological home for that worldview: Vance has become one of the leading political avatars of an emergent populist-intellectual persuasion that tacks right on culture and left on economics. Known as national conservatism or sometimes “post-liberalism,” it is — in broad strokes — heavily Catholic, definitely anti-woke, skeptical of big business, nationalist about trade and borders, and flirty with Hungarian prime minister Viktor Orban. In Congress, its presence is minuscule — represented chiefly by Sens. Josh Hawley and Marco Rubio — but on Fox News, it has a champion in Tucker Carlson, on whose show Vance is a regular guest. And while the movement’s philosopher-kings spend a lot of time litigating internal schisms online, the project is animated by a real-life political gambit: that as progressives weaken the Democratic Party with unpopular cultural attitudes, the right can swoop in and pick off multiracial working-class voters.

Vance’s Senate race is an almost perfect test of these ideas because the front-runner in the Republican primary, former state treasurer and tea party product Josh Mandel — who, according to recent polling, leads Vance by 6 points — is the candidate of traditional conservative tax-cutters. To those watching the Vance-Mandel slugfest from afar, it may just look like two candidates trying to out-flank each other on the right; but the fissures between them run deep. The Club for Growth, known for its free-market zealotry, is supporting Mandel and has spent roughly $1.5 million on anti-Vance attack ads. One TV spot highlights a tweet in which Vance says he “loved @MittRomney’s anti-Trump screed.” The narrator does not linger on the rest of the message, which reads: “too bad party will do everything except admit that supply-side tax cuts do nothing for its voters.” Before Vance deleted his old anti-Trump tweets, he tended to attack Trump for abandoning his stated commitment to economic populism. In a 2020 interview with anti-establishment pundits Krystal Ball and Saagar Enjeti, Vance contended that Trump’s great political failure wasn’t his handling of the pandemic, but his signature corporate tax cut and his attempts to undo Obamacare.

A couple of weeks after I saw him in Steubenville, Vance called me from the road, on his way to an event in Toledo. I asked about his sudden estrangement from polite society. “The price of being beloved by the establishment is you don’t say anything interesting,” he told me. “And if you don’t say anything interesting, you’re not going to be a useful part of solving any of the problems we have in this country.” What Vance is saying now may or may not prove appealing to voters, but it certainly meets the test of being interesting. “Dominant elite society is boring, it is completely unreflective, and it is increasingly wrong,” he told me. In other words: “I kind of had to make a choice.”

Vance campaigning in Ohio. (J.D. Vance Campaign)
In “Hillbilly Elegy,” Vance acknowledged the economic forces that had hollowed out the industrial base of his hometown and wrought problems like domestic violence and opioid abuse. Yet he was reluctant to blame “faceless companies” for the self-destructive impulses of people like his mother, who worked regularly as a nurse until she started stealing prescription narcotics and getting high. Raised in chaos, Vance attributes his success largely to the interventions of his fierce grandmother, Mamaw, the only real source of stability in his life. As the memoir continues, Vance is propped up by a handful of other parental surrogates: the paternalistic Marine Corps and the Tiger Mother herself, his law school mentor Amy Chua, who guided the book to publication.

Vance’s family had moved to the Ohio Rust Belt from rural Kentucky, and the book’s focus on what he deemed Appalachian culture was key to its broad appeal. Published in the summer of 2016, it was pitched as a generous but unsentimental portrait of the disaffected White working class — though not one that drifted into potentially off-putting populist territory. In a rapturous Times review, Jennifer Senior wrote that Vance had situated the problems of his community in a “fatalistic belief, born of too much adversity, that nothing can be done to change your lot.” What he was really writing about, she said, was “despair.”

When “Hillbilly Elegy” came out, Trump wasn’t expected to win the presidency, which made soft-focus TV segments and book-club conversations about his supporters feel like abstract exercises in empathy. After the election, the liberal mentality of urgent resistance no longer coexisted easily with these exercises. In August 2017, after the Charlottesville white supremacist march, journalist Frank Rich tweeted, “Hillbilly elegies have now officially reached their expiration date.” Vance replied, “This is unbelievably stupid. The alt-right is primarily a movement of spoiled rich babies who turned to hate. Don’t blame hillbillies.”

Vance, who was writing regular columns for the Times, felt his relationship with liberals was growing untenable. “For a few weeks, a few months, there was this sort of empathetic moment,” he later told conservative podcaster Ben Shapiro, about the 2016 election. But then, he argued, the narrative shifted: Liberals became convinced Trump’s win was not correlated to economic strife, but rather delivered by Russian interference and Republican racial animus. Whatever the ultimate strength of this diagnosis — which at minimum seemed to discount some portion of voters who had previously supported Barack Obama or Bernie Sanders — it meant that blue-collar voters didn’t need to be won back after all. Which, functionally, gave cosmopolitan America permission to look away from the troubles of rural White America.


When the “Hillbilly Elegy” movie came out on Netflix in 2020, it was not just critically panned but greeted with intense online mockery, and the tenuous cultural diplomacy achieved by the book seemed to unravel for good. (Rotten Tomatoes audience score: 83 percent. Critics’ score: 25 percent.) According to Vance’s best friend from Yale, Jamil Jivani, the wounding commentary was the “last straw” in his falling-out with elites.

Ironically, this breakup seemed to bring Vance closer to certain critics who had accused him of blaming low-income Appalachians for their own problems. In his book, Vance cited the research of Harvard economist Raj Chetty, which found that a region’s lack of social mobility was strongly correlated to its percentage of single-family households. Subsequently, he has been more likely to cite MIT economist David Autor’s work on globalization, which estimates that imports from China cost the United States about a million manufacturing jobs in the first decade of the 21st century. By 2020, Vance was tweeting that the legacy of Reaganite-Thatcherite conservatism was “the rise of China, the decimation of the American family, and a lot of tax cuts for the rich.” As his friend Sohrab Ahmari — one of the leading intellectual proponents of national conservatism — suggested to me, Vance had eventually come around “to the correct conclusion of his memoir.”

When we spoke on the phone, I told Vance I found it noteworthy that his book dissected the “learned helplessness” of Scotch-Irish hillbilly culture, while now he plays up external factors. He pushed back on my characterization, arguing that it made sense to talk about one thing in a memoir and the other in a Senate race. Besides, they weren’t mutually exclusive. Take “trade and industrial policy and fatherlessness,” he said. “We should understand deindustrialization as, in part, something that decimates working-class families, and, of course, when you destroy working-class families, then a whole lot of social pathologies move in.”

Vance argues that his alienation from polite society isn’t about him; it’s about them. When his memoir came out, he said, “people like Ezra Klein or David Brooks, you know, establishmentarians, center-right, center-left, however you want to describe their politics, they were sort of interesting people who were willing to challenge their social caste.” After Trump won, he contends, they retreated to their tribe. “Anybody who departs from the standard neoliberal orthodoxy ends up getting blasted, either from right or the left,” he went on. “The institutions that enforce conventional wisdom are incredibly hostile right now.” In effect, Vance is still framing himself as a conservative champion of the dispossessed — one who’s no longer fixating on the perceived failings of the people he grew up with, but of the professional class to which he ascended.

“Anybody who departs from the standard neoliberal orthodoxy ends up getting blasted, either from right or the left,” Vance says. “The institutions that enforce conventional wisdom are incredibly hostile right now.”
In November, Vance delivered the closing speech at the second annual national-conservatism conference, held at a Hilton in Orlando near SeaWorld. Called “Universities Are the Enemy,” the speech wasn’t exclusively about the campus — the title echoes a famous Richard Nixon line — but the priorities of progressive elites. The left, he argued, pushed for lax border control while average Americans were the ones overdosing on fentanyl from Mexico. Grocery and gas bills were skyrocketing, but Janet Yellen escaped blame for inflation because she is the first female Treasury secretary. “So long as we’re trailblazing on diversity, equity and inclusion,” Vance complained, “it doesn’t matter if normal people get screwed.” After the speech, Dreher says, Vance texted him: “When you realize that culture war is class warfare, everything becomes easy.”

National conservatism is the intellectual version of Trumpism, committed to the populist reorienting of the GOP away from free markets and interventionist foreign policy. As Trump never fully pursued his own project, the movement has taken on a slightly anarchic quality; surveying the conference’s speakers, it could be difficult to tell what linked Orban-defender Dreher to, say, Orlando Magic power forward Jonathan Isaac. Still, what the key factions agree on, as Sam Adler-Bell wrote in a recent New Republic essay, is that “classical liberalism — of the sort embraced by previous generations of conservatives — has a big hole in the middle of it where a substantive concept of the Good should be.”

Vance’s immersion in this universe can be traced to his close relationship with billionaire venture capitalist Peter Thiel, a NatCon eminence who delivered the conference’s opening speech — and has plunked $10 million into a pro-Vance super PAC. Vance met Thiel about a decade ago, after he gave a lecture at Yale that spoke to a dissatisfaction Vance felt with Ivy League life. Thiel’s reputation on the left has become a word-salad of villainous associations — from the demise of Gawker to the rise of “surveillance capitalism” and Trumpist nationalism. But before he was associated with politics, he was largely known as a critic of technological stagnation, captured by his famous line, “we wanted flying cars, instead we got 140 characters.”

That stagnation, Thiel claimed in his lecture at Yale, was linked to the credentialist rat race Vance and his classmates were engaged in. “If technological innovation were actually driving real prosperity, our elites wouldn’t feel increasingly competitive with one another over a dwindling number of prestigious outcomes,” Vance wrote in a spring 2020 essay in the Catholic publication the Lamp. In that piece, he called Thiel’s talk “the most significant moment of my time at Yale Law School,” helping him see that he “was obsessed with achievement … not as an end to something meaningful, but to win a social competition.”

Vance’s law school friend, the one who talked about his beard, told me that Vance was wrestling with the values of his new milieu throughout his time at Yale. “He is thoroughgoingly illiberal in his instincts,” he said. “I don’t mean it as a slur. I mean it in a technical sense. He is skeptical of the political project of enlightenment liberalism, like, We’re all just autonomous individuals trying to self-actualize and maximize our own interests.”

Jivani, who grew up in Toronto but shared Vance’s low-income background, says Vance drew a connection between Yale’s careerism and its liberal politics: “You’re sitting in a seminar room, you’ve got a professor who’s written a million books, surrounded by 20 students from San Francisco, New York, mostly, all pontificating about how to help poor people in America.” Their solutions, Jivani says, reflected the atomized enclaves they came from: “Yale’s approach is that judges, senators, policymakers can save the world. They completely omit the role of family, community and culture in people’s lives.”

After graduating in 2013, Vance clerked for a federal judge in Kentucky and worked a stint in corporate law. (At Yale, he began dating Usha Chilukuri, who would clerk for then-D.C. Circuit Judge Brett Kavanaugh and later Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts, before joining the white-shoe firm Munger, Tolles, and Olson. Now married, they have three children.) He soon left the field and moved to San Francisco to join Mithril Capital, one of Thiel’s firms. From there, he became a partner at AOL founder Steve Case’s venture-capital fund Rise of the Rest, which invests in start-ups not based on the coasts. Vance called the idea “geographic arbitrage,” a sublimely insider-y way of describing an effort to help outsiders. After that, he moved back to southwest Ohio, settling in an exclusive Cincinnati neighborhood where Sen. Rob Portman — whom he is vying to replace — used to live. Vance started a flyover fund of his own, called Narya Capital; its portfolio includes a service that lets you invest in farmland, a Catholic prayer-and-meditation app and a right-leaning video platform. (Vance has aped Thiel’s grating habit of borrowing names from “The Lord of the Rings.” According to the website One Wiki to Rule Them All, Narya is a Ring of Power forged to inspire Elves “to resist tyranny, domination and despair.”)


If you read Vance’s career progression in the context of his Yale-era anomie, you can see a coherent philosophy emerging. Technological stagnation wasn’t just producing a self-centered striver class, but a frayed national fabric. Wealth and cultural capital, after all, were concentrated in the coastal knowledge sectors, and not in once-vibrant manufacturing regions. Vance’s concerns dovetail with a number of recent polemics from across the political spectrum, including Daniel Markovits’s “The Meritocracy Trap,” Michael Sandel’s “The Tyranny of Merit,” Patrick Deneen’s “Why Liberalism Failed” and Ross Douthat’s “The Decadent Society.” (Vance has said Douthat’s book, which can be read as an expansion on the “flying cars” lament, is the work that best encapsulates his belief system.) American Affairs, the comically dense quarterly journal that informs national conservatism’s policy side, and which Vance reads, is in some ways a never-ending critique of the “professional managerial class.” All these sources, in turn, borrow from a previous generation of, well, proto-post-liberals, including the critic Christopher Lasch, who attacked ostensibly tolerant yuppies for believing they’d earned their spoils and therefore feeling little need to give back to their communities.

For Vance, the story of the past few decades is that the social permissiveness of the left fused with the free-market creed of the right to create the soulless ethic known as neoliberalism. It’s why Vance will decry unregulated capitalism in one breath and porn in the next. It’s also why so many national conservatives are drawn to Catholic social teaching, as opposed to Protestant work-ethic individualism. In his NatCon speech, you could hear Vance articulating both sides of the argument: “The fundamental lie of American feminism of the past 20 or 30 years is that it is liberating for women to go work for 90 hours a week in a cubicle at Goldman Sachs.”

Ahmari — also a Catholic convert, as well as a refugee from the market-oriented Wall Street Journal editorial page — thinks that the “meritocratic, neoliberal world is in some ways an aberration” that basically just benefits educated Western elites. “An open border,” for instance, “is a bonanza to the kind of managerial class people in my milieu, who like, say, cheap nannies and so forth. Not so good for workers on the low end.”

Vance’s solution is economic and spiritual nationalism. On the campaign trail, he riffs that in the old days “what was good for GM was good for America.” The winners of the new economy, in his formulation, are bad for America: liberal-leaning tech companies that cover up for hiring cheap foreign labor with “woke” posturing about gender and race.

The political forefather of this vision is probably Pat Buchanan, who inveighed against free trade and multiculturalism in the 1990s. But it also draws from the milder “Reformicon” blueprints of 10 years ago, as well as older strains of leftism, such as the anti-globalism of the Seattle WTO protests. One unlikely text Vance has cited is Elizabeth Warren’s 2004 book “The Two-Income Trap,” about the financial pressures families experience when two parents enter the workforce.

If you look for it, elements of Vance’s current critique were in “Hillbilly Elegy” too. People like his grandfather, who moved to southwest Ohio to work in the then-bustling Armco Steel plant, strengthened the local social fabric as producers. A generation later, with jobs disappearing, his mom and his neighbors were not just isolated and angry but also, he wrote, “consumerist.”

Just before the pandemic, Vance and Jivani recorded an episode of a podcast together. Jivani asked whether Vance’s nationalist vision could devolve into a more jingoistic or bigoted form. Vance acknowledged the risk but countered that a healthy nationalism was an antidote to right-wing grievance politics. “What this hyper-atomized approach to living has done is it’s denied people a sense of solidarity,” he said. “I think some people go and find it in their racial identity or ethnic identity, and I think that’s especially dangerous.”

But what does a national-conservative vision look like in a primary campaign that doubles as an audition for Trump’s endorsement? The answer, often, has been Vance’s own coarse brand of identity politics. In July, he gave a sneering speech about the “childless left,” including Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg (whose twins were delivered about a month later). On Twitter, he called Times columnist Paul Krugman “one of the many weird cat ladies with too much power in this country.” In the most charitable reading, Vance was trying to echo Ahmari’s point about a political class that caters to urbane McKinsey consultants. In practice, he came across like the relative who spams you with uncomfortable political memes, or worse.

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One thing that struck me as I checked out Vance’s campaign events was how rarely voters wanted to talk about topics of local relevance. One night, Vance held an event in Boardman, a suburb not far from the Lordstown GM plant that closed in 2019. That day, a federal trial was taking place in Cleveland that would result in the first-ever jury decision finding chain pharmacies responsible for exacerbating the opioid crisis. One of the two plaintiffs in the trial was Trumbull County, 10 miles north of where we were. Yet nobody in the room — or any other event I went to — asked about drug addiction. It’s not that voters didn’t grill Vance. They just preferred to ask about his past anti-Trumpism, or his relationship with Thiel, or any number of more unexpected national concerns, such as term limits. After the event, I drifted over to a folding table where other candidates had dropped off campaign paraphernalia. A placard for Josh Mandel read “ELECTION INTEGRITY NOW!” on one side and “STOP DEMOCRAT CHEATING!” on the other. I picked up a calendar and learned that former Trump adviser Kellyanne Conway would be stopping by the area for a Christmas party.

To get a different lens, I drove to Vance’s home city of Middletown, 35 miles north of Cincinnati. In some sense, it resembles what you’d expect from a community of 50,000 that has lost virtually all the steel and paper mill jobs that once sustained it: the familiar ruin-porn of vacant buildings bearing picturesque signs for long-gone hotels or furniture stores; a windswept main drag announced by the perversely glorious-looking Richie’s Pawn Central; a Dollar General where the family-owned Dillman Foods (which had employed Vance in high school) used to be. The vast Armco steel mill — now known as AK Steel — is still in business, though it has many fewer employees than in its peak years.

Still, a fledgling retail comeback has taken place downtown, anchored by a town-square-type coffee shop called the Triple Moon. There, I met up with 52-year-old Rodney Muterspaw, until recently the city’s police chief. The axis along which Vance is debated locally has less to do with his politics and more to do with whether he betrayed his hometown by depicting everyone as a bunch of degenerates. “People in town were saying, ‘That’s not Middletown,’ ” Muterspaw told me. “Well, hell yeah, that’s Middletown, 100 percent.” Muterspaw is 15 years older than Vance but shares a nearly identical lineage. His grandmother moved to the area from Appalachian Kentucky; his dad worked at Armco steel and didn’t end up raising him. Muterspaw lived with his mom, shuffling between apartment complexes, getting evicted, stealing from stores.

We went for a drive in his Dodge Ram. He showed me Vance’s modest childhood home on McKinley Street. Then we drove to the neighborhood where Ron Howard shot scenes for the movie. He showed me where Amy Adams, playing Vance’s mom, Beverly, ran into the street with a bloody gash on her wrist. “J.D.’s lucky his mom is still alive, you know,” he said. “In the movie, you’ll see the Parkway Inn — that’s where she was getting her fix at. We’ve had problems there for years.” (When I reached Beverly, she told me she had to check with Vance before speaking to me, and I never heard back. Muterspaw texted Vance’s sister, Lindsay, who still lives in Middletown, to give her my phone number. I didn’t hear from her, either.)


The book came out close to the peak of the local opioid epidemic, which lasted from 2015 to 2017. Muterspaw was chief then: “Three years of nothing but opioid calls, overdoses and deaths.” There were stretches of 2017 when more people died of overdoses — typically heroin, laced with fentanyl — than of natural causes in Butler County, where Middletown is located. The overdose problem started to slow in 2018, Muterspaw explained, after the city began sending three-person teams — police officer, medic, social worker — to house calls. The rates also slowed, he said, because so many addicts had died. (The city’s big problem now, he noted, is meth.)

National conservatism sells itself as a philosophy that could save these places, with its child subsidies and steel tariffs. But just how committed are national conservatives to the parts of their platform that are more traditionally left-wing — the infrastructure investments, the social-service interventions? Vance himself seemed to take a stab at on-the-ground social work around addiction, starting an anti-opioid nonprofit with Jivani called Our Ohio Renewal in 2017. Yet virtually nothing came of it, aside from the sponsorship of a year-long fellowship for Sally Satel — an American Enterprise Institute scholar who has long maintained that prescription pain meds are unlikely to turn the average person into an addict — to work at a drug treatment clinic in southeast Ohio. (When I asked her what came of the fellowship, Satel pointed to two lengthy essays she wrote about addiction, based on her time there.) In 2018, Jivani was diagnosed with cancer (he is now in remission), which seems to have crippled the nonprofit’s efforts. But the whole venture was puzzling from the start.

In the Senate, Josh Hawley crusades against “the tyranny of big tech,” while Marco Rubio pushes for an industrial policy to revive domestic manufacturing. Meanwhile, NatCon junior member Mitt Romney used the emergency of the pandemic to break with party orthodoxy on spending, authoring widely praised legislation offering parents up to $15,000 a year to defray child-rearing costs. (The bill went nowhere.) But they haven’t meaningfully tilted the GOP’s direction. “I mean, Donald Trump was elected, and the only thing the Republican Party accomplished in two years with control of Congress was a big tax cut,” says Oren Cass, who runs a new national-conservative think tank, American Compass. Worth noting: Rubio, Hawley and Romney all supported Trump’s corporate tax cut.

“I think anti-wokeness is probably enough to win elections,” Vance told me. “But I don’t think it can actually bring the country together to solve some of our big problems.”
Iwent to see Vance in the picturesque, troubled river town of Marietta, Ohio, across the border from West Virginia. He had a 9 a.m. event at a little GOP headquarters on the main drag. Not including me and his three-person team, there were 12 very committed political junkies there. I sat down at a table covered with coloring-book images of nuzzling elephants that local elementary students had apparently been conscripted into drawing. The event was a nice window into the indignities of Republican primary campaigning. At one point during the Q&A, a guy called Trump “caring.” Vance concurred: “He was a caring guy. He made us laugh.”

A more compelling exchange happened a little later. A woman commented that Democrats “hate Trump”; here, Vance got excited: Actually, they didn’t all hate Trump, and that gave Republicans an opportunity. “You know, Mamaw and Papaw, the people who raised me, they were classic blue-dog Democrats, union Democrats, right? They loved their country, they were socially conservative.” Now, Vance said, Democrats were turning off these voters. They “talk more about these ridiculous identity politics issues than they do about people’s jobs,” he argued.

Liberals would retort, of course, that they care about social and economic issues. And it’s the Republicans, not the Democrats, who have spent the past year voting against pandemic relief and social-safety-net spending. Yet it’s clear that for many voters, working-class priorities don’t seem like Democratic ones. In 2020, Florida voted for Trump, along with a significant minimum-wage hike. The recent drift of voters of color to the GOP — despite, or possibly thanks to, liberal efforts at cultural progressivism — has been hard to ignore.

The focus of the 2021 NatCon conference was the identitarian “Great Awokening” of recent years. While Vance engaged plenty on that topic in his speech, he is privately more downbeat about the obsession with political correctness. “I think anti-wokeness is probably enough to win elections,” he told me. “But I don’t think it can actually bring the country together to solve some of our big problems.”


Moreover, if Vance and company argue that neoliberal elites use the language of social justice to advance their interests, they also worry that mainstream conservatives will attack social justice to advance their own. “I would lament if the post-liberal movement became just a new skin or new mask for the same old GOP agenda,” Ahmari says. In other words, Mitch McConnell and company would push for goodies for the rich, while memorizing words they learned at a NatCon conference. “Like, ooh we’re against Ibram X. Kendi, how edgy, you know?” Mandel — Vance’s main opponent in Ohio — fits this bill, Ahmari says. “That’s a classic case of someone using the language of American populism, but you look beneath it, and it’s just the same old establishment consensus.”

Another way of framing the dilemma for the NatCons is this: From a certain angle, anti-wokeness just ends up looking like classic liberalism. If your general critique of the social justice left is that it’s doctrinaire, it becomes harder to push for a top-down “common good” conservatism that probably requires some level of indoctrination.

“What social progressives have accomplished over the last couple of decades is to deprive our country of any real shared — any real shared anything, right?” Vance told me. “We don’t have a shared sense of our own history. We don’t have a shared sense of our own great monuments and figures. We do not have a shared religion.” (Maybe that’s a good thing for a Catholic NatCon in a country that’s only about 22 percent Catholic.) Later in our conversation, he returned to the point: “You look into some of the social justice people, [and] you realize what they’re doing is responding to a world without norms and without borders. And they’re trying to reconstruct this stuff from nothing. And I sometimes want to shake them and say, ‘There is a philosophy out there that worked pretty good for Western civilization at erecting norms and erecting social borders. Maybe you should try that out.’ ”

It’s not totally clear which philosophy he meant, or how far back in Western civ he hoped to go. The Federalist Papers? “The City of God”? I asked him how national conservatives might accomplish all this without drifting into their own versions of dogma. “Ah, I mean, honestly,” he replied, “I don’t know.”

Vance talks with David M. Rubenstein at the National Book Festival in Washington in 2017. (Salwan Georges/The Washington Post)
This past summer, Times columnist Ross Douthat, a NatCon fellow traveler, appeared on the podcast of his colleague Ezra Klein. Klein asked him, essentially, What happened to J.D. Vance? Douthat had a few answers, among them a stylistic point: If you need to play to the Trump base — which Vance suddenly, desperately, needs to do — it’s not a bad idea to do so via online trolling: “You can own the libs without going on long paranoid spiels about all your enemies within the Republican Party who have failed to steal the election for you.”

Vance’s media strategy seems to be that by playing Don Jr. on the Internet, he can push for more substantive populism in real life. The success of that tactic may depend on how far removed he truly seems from the Brookings Institution-to-Netflix pipeline he was riding until recently. In November, Vance tweeted an invitation to join him and Peter Thiel for an exclusive dinner — to whoever donated $10,800 by the next day. “This will be a small group, with good food and better company,” Vance wrote. On Twitter, Mandel replied with a picture of himself outside a Denny’s. He wrote: “BERKSHIRE, OH — For $10.80 anyone can join me eating fries off the hood of the car from a gas station Denny’s at midnight.”

In late November, the Ohio Republican Party held a very awkward candidate forum in an evangelical church near Middletown. None of the seven candidates were allowed to rebut one another. The statements from Vance’s opponents were a procession of uninspired to alarming GOP tropes. Party fixture Jane Timken pledged to “fight back against the socialists.” Mandel thundered that the election had been stolen and that America was not a country for “atheism” or “Muslim values.” (Mandel, who is Jewish, is for “Judeo-Christian values.”)

Vance, seated on the edge of the stage, tried to move the conversation onto his turf. Censorship, opioids: not just the fault of Democrats, but of multinational corporations. Fielding a question about “fiscal sanity,” he pivoted away from the national debt and gave an answer about buying American-made, instead of Chinese-made, goods. Blaming big business certainly distinguished him from his opponents, but it did not appear to thrill the die-hards in the pews.

Eventually, however, Vance landed on something that got the audience going: He called for Republicans to shut down the government until President Biden ended his vaccine mandate for federal workers. A vaccine mandate is exactly the sort of idea that a “common good” national conservative like Vance should support. Yet a few days after the forum, I got a text message from his campaign, raising money off the line.

Simon van Zuylen-Wood is a writer in New York.


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Re: The US Congress; Filibuster
« Reply #968 on: January 06, 2022, 01:14:46 PM »
Interesting point made about Dems ending the filibuster:

Republicans could ban public sector unions including all these teachers unions with a single vote.


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Re: The US Congress; Congressional races
« Reply #969 on: January 06, 2022, 07:22:11 PM »
The mind boggles , , ,

but this does cut both ways.

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About time the media is starting to pay attention to Pelosi corruption
« Reply #970 on: January 10, 2022, 01:31:00 PM »
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/01/10/democrat-sen-jeff-merkley-admits-pelosis-stock-trading-sways-her-legislative-judgment/

they obviously read the forum
for this has been discussed here for many yrs

pelosi and family = crook

like
Biden and family = crook


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Re: The US Congress; Congressional races
« Reply #972 on: January 10, 2022, 03:03:34 PM »
typical Dems
get crushed
and then move further to the LEFT and not the center

which has always been a losing strategy

just ask Clinton

of course that was ages ago
and now
 is the WOKE and free shit revolution.

we need to reply in kind

no Romneys no Cheneys
 ( like them personally just they are too Rino for what we need now)




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Congressional races, US Senate Georgia
« Reply #973 on: January 10, 2022, 09:44:48 PM »
Georgia just won the national collegiate football championship.  I thought they win it all the time but it was the first time in 41 years, not since Jimmy Carter (from Georgia) was President and Hershel Walker won it.

Georgia pride favors Hershel Walker for US Senate. He is a very strong candidate who represents conservatism in an excellent way.  He is an asset to the national party.

One seat just flipped.  Who in Georgia is going to vote against Hershel Walker?  There'd have to be something wrong with you!
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« Reply #974 on: January 11, 2022, 06:20:19 AM »
thanks Dough

just did wikipedia on Herschel,

of course he is known for his superhuman athletic feats

but this is interesting:

he was his high school valedictorian!:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herschel_Walker

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« Reply #975 on: January 11, 2022, 08:33:48 AM »
thanks Dough

just did wikipedia on Herschel,

of course he is known for his superhuman athletic feats

but this is interesting:

he was his high school valedictorian!:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herschel_Walker

At one point the Vikings traded 5 of the top linebackers in the league to Dallas for Hershel Walker.  On Hershel's first two touches of the ball, he ran the length of the field to the endzone looking like he cold do it every time (and then never did it again).  One of those was called back for a penalty, and then nothing of note came out of his NFL career while the Vikings lacked defense for more than a decade and never went to the SuperBowl again.  It wasn't hershel's fault; it was the people who gutted our team to get him.

His inability to become a true NFL great makes what he did in college in Georgia all the more heroic and larger than life - in Georgia.

I thought he was the best speaker in the 2020 RNC.

We used to mock his use of the third person.  He would say Hershel this and Hershel that, but as mentioned above, the man is smart and aware and ready and he's a conservative and a uniter.  Not many of those around!  On top of all that, I heard he is black!

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« Reply #976 on: January 11, 2022, 10:51:17 AM »
Yes, very much a man for us to keep our eye on.

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The US Congress; The FAUCI Act
« Reply #977 on: January 14, 2022, 08:04:22 AM »
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/589699-gop-senator-plans-to-introduce-fauci-act-after-clash-at-hearing

Republican Sen. Roger Marshall (Kan.) plans to introduce a bill named after  Anthony Fauci after he clashed with the nation's top infectious diseases expert at a Senate hearing this week.

Marshall will be introducing the Financial Accountability for Uniquely Compensated Individuals (FAUCI) Act after he said Fauci’s records were not readily accessible to the public, a spokesperson for the senator told The Hill.

The FAUCI Act would require the Office of Government Ethics (OGE) website to provide the financial records of administration officials like Fauci and a list of those in the government whose financial records are not public.

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« Reply #978 on: January 14, 2022, 08:20:08 AM »
Republican Sen. Roger Marshall (Kan.) plans to introduce a bill named after  Anthony Fauci

Great idea

it is so astonishing to see this guy
give America the middle finger

for his own narcissistic needs:

"how dare you" question me?

at least Greta Thunberg is cute when she says "how dare you"

I wonder if when we win the houses in '22 we can remove this guy from office
perhaps defund his salary ?

do the Houses have the power?

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The US Congress; AZ Sen Kyrsten Sinema
« Reply #979 on: January 14, 2022, 08:35:05 AM »
I don't know exactly what to think about her.  In this speech yesterday(?) she clearly lays out her support for the Democrats crazy "voting rights" bill with no reservations, then goes on to say why she won't vote to change the rules of the Senateto make that happen.  I guess, on this one issue, she is a 100% partisan Democrat on policy and at the same time not so short sighted as to believe the ends justify the means, making her a pariah in her own party.  She makes both a practical case and I think a moral case for keeping the 60 vote threshold for legislation.  Her words on listening to people who disagree with you on policy sound genuine and are really quite inspiring.

She goes through a real sequence of how her own party flipped for short term gain on the 60 vote threshold and paid a much bigger price for it in the next election cycle.

What's odd is that this highly touted, widely circulated video persuades no one else in her own party, only supported Joe Manchin who already took the same position.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1ohvcCgWbM&feature=emb_logo
Kyrsten Sinema: "The 60-Vote Senate Threshold Is A More Vital Tool To Protect Democracy Than These Bills, Which I Support"

For Republicans she we will be difficult to ever defeat.  The only chance for that would come from liberals rising up against her in her own party.

It is the other Senator from AZ who is up for reelection.  He is a fake moderate who would toss the rules of the Senate away in a heartbeat for instant political gain.  He is considered vulnerable this election cycle with the Democrats rule currently so unpopular.
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was just wondering what would happen
« Reply #980 on: January 14, 2022, 09:55:35 AM »
if some pissed off Dem were to bump one of them (manchin sinema) off.

do governors choose replacements or just interim senators till
an election is held ?

both Az and WV governors are republican

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Re: was just wondering what would happen
« Reply #981 on: January 14, 2022, 10:46:37 AM »
There aren't 26 or 30 liberal states for liberals to get their 51 or 60 liberal Senators, certainly not West Virginia.  Barely 20 states are truly liberal. Even at 20 you are counting NH with a popular Republican Governor and MN with a Republican state House. Not pure Left.

Manchin said genuinely to Bernie, elect 50 liberals if you want, but not me and not in my state.

The political center of the country is roughly Nebraska.  Good luck getting a Bernie or AOC elected there.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/most-conservative-states
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Senate ideologues want to turn cooling saucer into dictatorship rubber stamp
« Reply #982 on: January 17, 2022, 01:04:25 PM »
“The bottom line is very simple: The ideologues in the Senate want to turn what the Founding Fathers called the cooling saucer of democracy into the rubber stamp of dictatorship.”    - US Sen Chuck Schumer, March 16, 2005.

“They believe if you get 51% of the vote, there should be one party rule,” Schumer added. “We will stand in their way! Because an America of checks and balances is the America we love. It’s the America the Founding Fathers created. It’s been the America that’s kept us successful for 200 years and we’re not going to let them change it! … We will fight, and we will preserve the Constitution!”    - US Sen. Chuck Schumer

https://nypost.com/2022/01/09/what-schumer-said-about-the-filibuster-when-the-shoe-was-on-the-other-foot/
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2022/01/13/senate_filibuster_the_constant_and_the_variable_147023.html#2
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Re: The US Congress; Congressional races
« Reply #983 on: January 17, 2022, 02:14:27 PM »
".And they wonder why the people get cynical about politics."

well we read how the lawyer listers

the jurno listers

and political allies in big tech media

were sizzling angry with Trump (and us) they were going to take no prisoners
they were going to crush us

lie cheat steal defraud and block us all the way from NYC to LA.

when reading their exclamations you could "see" their teeth glistening and drooling while being sharpened.

they pulled no stops in corrupting the '20 election
and will shove their agendas up our asses (so they thought)

and then make us eat cake
while they divvy up the spoils of trillions in new spending




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Dem senator has stroke
« Reply #989 on: February 02, 2022, 09:16:30 AM »
https://www.digitaljournal.com/world/democratic-us-senators-stroke-threatens-biden-agenda/article

Ben Ray Lujan, 49, underwent brain surgery to relieve swelling late last week and remains hospitalized, his office said, with no clear timetable for how long he will be sidelined.

not a minor stroke
but if it is in cerebellum he could well make full recovery

governor of NM is democrat oddly enough with same last name
though no relation it appears:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Lujan_Grisham

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second post today
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Re: The US Congress; Congressional races, 49-50 Senate?
« Reply #991 on: February 04, 2022, 05:56:31 AM »
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/592593-democrats-hit-limits-with-lujans-absence

When Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) was asked about the impact of Luján’s absence, he said, “We all understand, everybody in the Senate can count.”


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CNN rates the Senate races
« Reply #993 on: February 04, 2022, 06:33:59 AM »
Their analysis doesn't match their map based on real data.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/03/politics/senate-race-rankings-february/index.html

Interestingly, Vegas betting has Dems losing in AZ, GA, and NV.  Even CNN map has R's leading in WI, FL, NC and PA.

All are good ideas for sending money early for maximum effect.

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Mehmet Oz
« Reply #994 on: February 12, 2022, 07:05:17 AM »
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehmet_Oz

"Oz described himself as a "moderate Republican" and cited Arnold Schwarzenegger and Theodore Roosevelt as inspirations"

 "2007 article said Oz had been active in his local Republican Party of New Jersey for several years, and had donated to Republicans John McCain and Bill Frist."

So far I just cannot like this guy.  I never did.

Of course he would run for Senate - congress would not be good enough for someone with his enormous ego.

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Congressional races, 30 House Dem incumbents not running
« Reply #995 on: February 16, 2022, 06:26:33 AM »
Source:. John Ellis, News Items

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Brittney Spears to [perform] for Congress
« Reply #996 on: February 16, 2022, 04:02:05 PM »
Congressmen Charlie Crist and Eric Swalwell

want Brittney Spears to testify :


https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/britney-spears-invited-congress-testify-202027072.html

not too creepy if you ask me.
(or for that matter a waste of time.)

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Senate at risk?
« Reply #997 on: February 18, 2022, 07:14:15 AM »
I must have been tired and posted this as a governorship concern

about Greitens running for the open Missouri Senate seat:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/sex-scandal-missouri-cost-gop-195024581.html

My nephew only said he is "awful"

https://ballotpedia.org/United_States_Senate_election_in_Missouri,_2022

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Congressional races 2022, latest economic metrics don’t look good for D party
« Reply #999 on: February 21, 2022, 05:15:01 PM »
source:  Vox  [far left analytics]



https://www.vox.com/2022/2/21/22936218/inflation-biden-midterms-democrats

IF you have negative real wage growth, you have Presidential unpopularity and the President's party loses seats.

The only way they could turn this around before the election is to adopt pro-growth, Republican economic policies - and they won't.

If you tighten the monetary policies, already warned, and fail to enact pro-growth policies simultaneously, which have no chance under Dem rule, you will have economic, stagnation, stagflation and misery.  cf. 1979-1982

"real wage growth turned negative in the second half of 2021 because inflation shot up"

"According to NBC News, the White House is trying to brainstorm a new economic message — but there may be no substitute for improving workers’ real wages."
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JP Morgan sees 9 interest rate hikes
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