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Re: Insurrection and the Second American Civil War
« Reply #1850 on: May 09, 2023, 02:30:32 PM »
https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artI-S8-C15-1/ALDE_00001077/#:~:text=Article%20I%2C%20Section%208%2C%20Clause,and%20repel%20Invasions%3B%20.%20.%20.

so any conservative simply gets called insurrectionist
and thus only the [LEFT wing] government can establish a militia



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Re: Insurrection and the Second American Civil War
« Reply #1853 on: May 15, 2023, 01:54:01 PM »
In the Electoral Process thread the choice was presented as being between Voting and Insurgency.

IMHO this is binary thinking that is erroneous.

I would submit that these are not the only options.

For example, most certainly there are many variations and gradations of civil disobedience-- which worked rather well for Martin Luther King.

The more non-digital our lives, the less subject to governmental interference.

A second American Civil War would bring with it truly catastrophic consequences, even were it to occur in a geopolitical vacuum, which it would not.




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Re: Insurrection and the Second American Civil War
« Reply #1854 on: May 15, 2023, 02:01:41 PM »
in this sense you are non binary !  :wink:

I am stubborn
that is why I tried to fight music mafia for 25 yrs
now
without a win
but I will die trying

at this point got nothin' to lose

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Re: Insurrection and the Second American Civil War
« Reply #1855 on: May 15, 2023, 02:08:17 PM »
In the Electoral Process thread the choice was presented as being between Voting and Insurgency.

IMHO this is binary thinking that is erroneous.

I would submit that these are not the only options.

For example, most certainly there are many variations and gradations of civil disobedience-- which worked rather well for Martin Luther King.

The more non-digital our lives, the less subject to governmental interference.

A second American Civil War would bring with it truly catastrophic consequences, even were it to occur in a geopolitical vacuum, which it would not.

As things collapse, there will be no avoidance of violence. Some places will be safer than others, but no place will be truly safe.

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Re: Insurrection and the Second American Civil War
« Reply #1856 on: May 15, 2023, 02:10:38 PM »
"As things collapse, there will be no avoidance of violence. Some places will be safer than others, but no place will be truly safe."

the Chinese will move in

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Re: Insurrection and the Second American Civil War
« Reply #1857 on: May 15, 2023, 02:12:39 PM »
"As things collapse, there will be no avoidance of violence. Some places will be safer than others, but no place will be truly safe."

the Chinese will move in

Of course. PLA "Peacekeepers". They'll control the west coast.

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Re: Insurrection and the Second American Civil War
« Reply #1858 on: May 15, 2023, 02:20:42 PM »
""As things collapse, there will be no avoidance of violence. Some places will be safer than others, but no place will be truly safe."

I don't disagree, but should things collapse (one plausible outcome of many) I distinguish civil disorder, civil war, and insurgency.

"the Chinese will move in"

I suspect it will be easier for them to pay the Mexican cartels (and fifth column agents of other countries too) to fire things up.

I underline that said plausible collapse is but one of many possible outcomes, and avoiding this outcome is all the more reason to give it our all to "vote our way out of this" (witness e.g. today's post of JW's successes in PA and CO in cleaning up voter rolls-- a major variable in voter fraud).

Staying with the humor of the "non-binary" riff-- we can do more than one thing.  We can and should work to win the elections.  We can and should prepare in case the SHTF and we wind up in TEOTWAWKI-- but to bet everything on the latter and not bother with the former IMHO would be a huge error.




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Re: Insurrection and the Second American Civil War
« Reply #1869 on: May 24, 2023, 06:30:06 AM »
GM:

I often razz you for your difficulties in acknowledging the many fine pieces of legal-political analysis that AMcC makes, but on this occasion I am with you.  Ray Epps and related matters fall well within his areas of expertise.

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Re: Insurrection and the Second American Civil War
« Reply #1870 on: May 24, 2023, 06:35:36 AM »
GM:

I often razz you for your difficulties in acknowledging the many fine pieces of legal-political analysis that AMcC makes, but on this occasion I am with you.  Ray Epps and related matters fall well within his areas of expertise.

His silence is not accidental. He attacked Tucker for saying J6 was a FEDsurrection. He has NEVER retracted that.

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Re: Insurrection and the Second American Civil War
« Reply #1871 on: May 24, 2023, 06:41:32 AM »
Back in the '67-72 when I was active in the Anti-Vietnam War movement (including being conked over the head by an NYC officers black jack and arrested in front of the DOJ with AG John Mitchell overlooking) we were well aware that they were LEO agent provocateurs among us committing excessive acts and looking to stimulate such from us. 

True as this was it did not mean that plenty of us did such entirely on our own.

My sense of reality is that both these things remain true today.

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Re: Insurrection and the Second American Civil War
« Reply #1872 on: May 24, 2023, 06:46:59 AM »
Back in the '67-72 when I was active in the Anti-Vietnam War movement (including being conked over the head by an NYC officers black jack and arrested in front of the DOJ with AG John Mitchell overlooking) we were well aware that they were LEO agent provocateurs among us committing excessive acts and looking to stimulate such from us. 

True as this was it did not mean that plenty of us did such entirely on our own.

My sense of reality is that both these things remain true today.

Did actual J6 protesters violate some laws, sure. Was the entire thing a Fed op to ensnare protesters to create a "Reichstag Fire" as part of the 2020 coup, absolutely.

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Re: Insurrection and the Second American Civil War
« Reply #1873 on: May 24, 2023, 12:29:59 PM »
Which would explain why Pelosi passed on President Trump's offer of 20K National Guard?


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Re: Insurrection and the Second American Civil War
« Reply #1874 on: May 24, 2023, 12:35:34 PM »
Which would explain why Pelosi passed on President Trump's offer of 20K National Guard?

Exactly, it explains all the other details they tried to hide as well.



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Re: Insurrection and the Second American Civil War
« Reply #1876 on: May 30, 2023, 08:35:10 PM »
https://patriotpost.us/memes/97567-getting-the-band-together-again-2023-05-24?mailing_id=7522&utm_medium=email&utm_source=pp.email.7522&utm_campaign=humor

When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another….



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Re: Insurrection and the Second American Civil War
« Reply #1879 on: June 04, 2023, 08:55:18 AM »
who put that flag up?

what a slap in the face!


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If you need food to live, you should pay attention to this!
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Re: Insurrection and the Second American Civil War
« Reply #1893 on: June 18, 2023, 03:26:13 PM »
I have changed the subject line to so reflect.

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Re: Insurrection and the Second American Civil War
« Reply #1894 on: June 18, 2023, 04:35:56 PM »
I have changed the subject line to so reflect.

Not “FBI unable to locate FBI Agents responsible for bomb”?

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'Murica!
« Reply #1896 on: June 25, 2023, 01:53:31 PM »
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1672981094902185986

BTW scroll down a bit and there is a picture of RFK looking seriously jacked.

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Re: 'Murica!
« Reply #1897 on: June 25, 2023, 02:05:49 PM »
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1672981094902185986

BTW scroll down a bit and there is a picture of RFK looking seriously jacked.

Will they face charges for assaulting federal officers?

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