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Re: Best evidence of China's economic collapse
« Reply #1001 on: March 02, 2020, 08:39:50 AM »
https://www.theepochtimes.com/nasa-satellite-images-show-significant-decline-in-china-air-pollution-amid-coronavirus-outbreak_3255946.html

Good point.  We can measure the lying communists economic activity most accurately by their emissions.

If it is safety, security and prosperity keeps the masses in line and the regime in place, what is the  other side of that?

I worry that Xi will go for broke and try to invade Taiwan out of desperation and/or have the NorKs push south rather than risk being Mussolini'ed by angry mobs.




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China's free medical care
« Reply #1004 on: March 05, 2020, 09:22:47 PM »

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China trying to whip up war fever?
« Reply #1005 on: March 12, 2020, 09:38:14 AM »
To distract from COVID-19 fevers? Desperate communists do desperate things.

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China hid the Wuhan virus crisis for over 2 months, Trump responded same day
« Reply #1006 on: March 20, 2020, 06:43:14 AM »
The first case known at this point was Nov. 17, 1999 and China hid it until Jan 20, 2020, more than two months, and denied the large numbers of the outbreak until Jan. 31.

Pres. Trump ordered the quarantine and travel ban that same day.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1255532/coronavirus-news-covid-19-china-first-case-november-pandemic
Coronavirus cover-up? First case confirmed on Nov 17 NOT end of December, China data says

On January 20, President Xi Jinping ordered that the virus be “resolutely contained” in his first public comment on the issue.
https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/from-cover-up-to-lock-down-how-china-turned-the-tide-on-the-coronavirus/story-VxpMIZgQLgPayK5Pj0vkpN.html
"Human-to-human transmission was finally confirmed by a leading Chinese expert that day.  This marked a major turning point in the epidemic, with 291 infections reported nationwide." [A lie, see below.] "Panic took hold in Wuhan, a city of 11 million, when it was abruptly placed on lockdown on January 23. The rest of Hubei province was sealed off in the following days."

During that time the crisis was hidden by China, more than 10,000 PEOPLE PER DAY were flying from China to the US, some of them infected.

Where do we file THAT lawsuit? 
 
"More than 11,800 people in China have been diagnosed with coronavirus, the country’s health experts confirm; U.S. to deny entry to foreign nationals who recently visited China and quarantine returning Americans
Jan. 31, 2020
at 8:55 p.m. CST 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/coronavirus-china-live-updates/2020/01/31/eeac61b6-442b-11ea-b503-2b077c436617_story.html
The United States announced Friday it would be taking new measures to combat a coronavirus outbreak, including denying entry to foreign nationals who had recently visited China and imposing 14-day quarantines on American citizens returning from mainland China.
More than 11,800 people have been diagnosed with the rapidly spreading virus. More than 250 have died, all of them in China. The State Department told Americans not to travel there and advised those who are already there to consider leaving.
Following a quarantine order issued Friday, which government officials said was last used in the 1960s, evacuees held at a base in California will have their movements tightly controlled for 14 days after they left China because health experts are still uncertain about how readily the virus spreads."
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The travel ban ordered Friday was in effect by Sunday, as Americans scrambled to get home.

FDR declared war on Japan the day after the attack on Pearl Harbor.   President Trump ordered quarantine and travel ban same day China admitted the massive numbers of the deadly virus outbreak.  That is a historically fast and decisive response!

When did Italy, Spain, EU announce their travel ban from China? 

On what day did Presidential candidate Joe Biden (or any other Democrat) call on congress or Pres. Trump Trump to issue a travel ban on from China to contain the virus and protect the nation?

NEVER.  Biden responded to the quarantine and travel ban with: "This is no time for...xenophobia - and fearmongering"
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/481028-biden-slams-trump-for-cutting-health-programs-before-coronavirus-outbreak

In fact, House Democrats own"No Ban Act" with 219 co-sponsors would have precluded this action.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/2214/cosponsors?searchResultViewType=expanded&KWICView=false

How many more would be dead if they were in charge, with still more people coming from the virus source country at the rate of 10,000 per day through the month of February, then March? Ordering the travel ban and first quarantine in 50 years long before people or opponents or media were calling for it took guts, leadership, and saved lives. 
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US-China: Reparations
« Reply #1007 on: March 21, 2020, 08:20:57 AM »
"Where do we file THAT lawsuit? "  (previous post)

When this is over and blame is assessed and damages measured, reparation is a reasonable demand. 

What was the cost to the rest of the world of the November, December, January cover up and the continued lying they are doing now?

Those who believe in world government should test it with enforcement.  Bankrupt this regime and give the ownership of that government to the Chinese people.

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Re: US-China, Bipartisan House Resolution Condemns China
« Reply #1008 on: March 24, 2020, 08:30:25 AM »
Maybe if the rest of the media and the world are all over this, I can climb down from my soapbox.

I have some ideas for US China policies for Trump's second term that go beyond passing House Resolutions.

https://www.scribd.com/document/453024295/Banks-Resolution-COVID-19-Outbreak#from_embed

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bipartisan-house-resolution-condemns-chinese-government-over-handling-of-coronavirus-response
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(Original Signature of Member)
116
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CONGRESS

H. RES.
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Expressing the sense of the House of Representatives that the Government
of the People’s Republic of China made multiple, serious mistakes in
the early stages of the COVID–19 outbreak that heightened the severity
and spread of the ongoing COVID–19 pandemic, which include the Chi-
nese Government’s intentional spread of misinformation to downplay
the risks of the virus, a refusal to cooperate with international health
authorities, internal censorship of doctors and journalists, and malicious
disregard for the health of ethnic minorities.
IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
Mr. BANKS
submitted the following resolution; which was referred to the
Committee on

RESOLUTION
Expressing the sense of the House of Representatives that
the Government of the People’s Republic of China made
multiple, serious mistakes in the early stages of the
COVID–19 outbreak that heightened the severity and
spread of the ongoing COVID–19 pandemic, which in-
clude the Chinese Government’s intentional spread of
misinformation to downplay the risks of the virus, a
refusal to cooperate with international health authorities,
internal censorship of doctors and journalists, and mali-
cious disregard for the health of ethnic minorities.

Whereas Chinese Government records suggest that the first
human became infected with COVID–19 on November
17, 2019, in China’s Hubei Province;
 Whereas, on December 27, 2019, Zhang Jixian, a doctor
from the Hubei Provincial Hospital of Chinese and West-
ern Medicine alerted China’s health authorities that sev-
eral individuals exhibiting mysterious, flu-like symptoms,
 were infected with a novel strain of coronavirus;
 Whereas Dr. Yu Wenbin and a team of researchers from
 Xishuangbanna Tropical Botanical Garden reported that
the Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market greatly contrib-
 uted to the spread of COVID–19 throughout the city of
 Wuhan;
 Whereas the Chinese Government waited five days after being
informed of cases of a dangerous new strain of
coronavirus concentrated around Wuhan’s open-air mar-
ket to shut down of the Huanan Seafood Wholesale Mar-
ket in Wuhan;
 Whereas Zhou Xianwang, the mayor of Wuhan, stated that
5,000,000 of Wuhan’s 14,000,000 residents left the city
 before the Chinese Government imposed a lockdown;
 Whereas, on December 30, 2019, Ai Fen, director of Wuhan
Central Hospital’s emergency department, shared a diag-
nostic report on the then unknown COVID–19 virus with
a group of doctors through the social media application
 WeChat;
 Whereas, on December 30, 2019, Dr. Li Wenliang, warned
his medical school classmates of an outbreak of an un-
known SARS-like virus over WeChat;
 
Whereas, on December 31, 2019, Wuhan Central Hospital
authorities formally reprimanded Fei for ‘‘spreading ru-
mors’’ about the virus;
 Whereas, on January 1, 2020, an official at the Hubei Pro-
 vincial Health Commission ordered at least on private
genomics testing company to cease testing samples of a
SARS-like virus from Wuhan and to destroy all existing
samples of the virus;
 Whereas, on January 3, 2020, Wuhan’s Public Security Bu-
reau detained, questioned and forced Dr. Li Wenliang
and seven other doctors to sign a letter confessing he had
made ‘‘false comments’’ that ‘‘severely disturbed the so-
cial order’’;
 Whereas, on January 3, 2020, the leading public health au-
thority in China, the National Health Commission, di-
rected all Chinese research institutions to cease publicly
publishing any information related to a then unknown
SARS-like virus, and ordered them to destroy existing
samples of the virus or transfer them to approved testing
sites;
 Whereas the Centers for Disease Control first asked permis-
sion to study COVID–19 within China on January 6,
2020, but was barred by the Chinese Government from
entering the country until mid-February;
 Whereas Chinese authorities first publicly confirmed the ex-
istence of COVID–19 on January 9, 2020, 14 days after
the presence of a novel strain of coronavirus was inter-
nally confirmed;
 Whereas China’s National Health Commission publicly denied
COVID–19 was person-to-person transmissible until Jan-
 uary 15, 2020, despite having uncovered contrary evi-
dence in late December and being alerted of the trans-
missibility of COVID–19 on January 1, 2020;
 Whereas, on January 18, 2020, over 10,000 families attended
the city of Wuhan’s annual Lunar New Year Banquet,
 which was organized and sponsored by the Wuhan city
government;
 Whereas the People’s Daily, the largest newspaper in China,
first reported on the coronavirus on January 21, 2020,
nearly a month after the virus was internally confirmed;
 Whereas, on February 7, 2020, one month after checking
into Wuhan Central Hospital, Dr. Li Wenliang died of a
severe case of COVID–19;
 Whereas the COVID–19 outbreak has disproportionately
harmed China’s persecuted Uyghur Muslim minority as a
result of the following actions taken by the Chinese Gov-
ernment—
(1) the detention of over 1,000,000 Uyghur Muslims
and other ethnic minorities in ‘‘re-education camps’’,
 whose crowded and unsanitary conditions makes the
camps hotspots for viral disease and leave prisoners at an
elevated risk of contracting COVID–19;
(2) as reported by Uyghur Human Rights Project,
and corroborated by video evidence and Radio Free Asia,
an unannounced and strictly enforced quarantine of mil-
lions of residents in its predominantly Uyghur Muslim
 Xinjiang Province around January 24, 2020, resulted in
mass starvation and shortages of basic medical supplies;
(3) on February 25, 2020, Xinhua News Service re-
ported that China had ‘‘re-located’’ 30,000 Uyghur labor-
ers to temporarily shuttered factories in the Hotan pre-
fecture, exposing them to health risks the Chinese Gov-
ernment deemed unacceptable for the ethnically Han ma-
 jority;
 Whereas the Centers for Disease Control, being the premier
infectious disease research institution in the world, was
 well situated at the beginning of the COVID–19 outbreak
to both assist China’s response and prepare the United
States to handle the virus should it spread internation-
ally;
 Whereas China’s National Health Commission failed to in-
clude individuals who tested positive for COVID–19 but
remained asymptomatic in its daily tally of confirmed
COVID–19 cases, hampering American public health au-
thorities’ ability to accurately account for the health risks
of infection and spread rate of the virus;
 Whereas Chinese Foreign Ministry Spokesman, Zhao Lijian,
claimed that COVID–19 originated in the United States
and that the United States army brought the virus to
 Wuhan to wage biological warfare on China;
 Whereas other Chinese Government officials including sci-
entists working on China’s COVID–19 response, China’s
 Ambassador to South Africa and China’s Ambassador to
 Australia have claimed that there is no evidence that
COVID–19 originated in China;
 Whereas, on March 4, 2020, Xinhua News Agency, an official
mouthpiece of the Chinese Government, published an ar-
ticle threatening to cut off medical supply exports to the
United States and ‘‘plunge [the United States] into the
mighty sea of coronavirus’’;
 Whereas, on March 17, 2020, China expelled American na-
tionals working at the Wall Street Journal, Washington
Post, and New York Times, reducing the spread of reli-
able information on the COVID–19 outbreak in China;
and
 Whereas a study by the University of Southampton found
that if China had taken action 3 weeks earlier, the spread
of coronavirus would be reduced by 95 percent globally:
Now, therefore, be it
 Resolved,
That the House of Representatives—
1
(1) calls on the Chinese Government to—
2
(A) publicly state that there’s no evidence
3
that COVID–19 originated anywhere else but
4
China;
5
(B) denounce the baseless conspiracy that
6
the United States Army placed COVID–19 in
7
 Wuhan;
8
(C) revoke its expulsion of American jour-
9
nalists;
10
(D) end its detainment of Uyghur Muslims
11
and other persecuted ethnic minorities; and
12
(E) end all forced labor programs;
13
(2) condemns—
14
(A) the Chinese Government’s censorship
15
of doctors and journalists during the early days
16
of the outbreak and particularly its treatment
17
of the deceased Dr. Li Wenliang;
18
(B) the Chinese Government’s refusal to
19
allow scientists from the Centers of Disease
20
Control to assist its response to COVID–19 for
1
over a month after cooperation was offered,
2
needlessly endangering the lives of its own citi-
3
zens and hampering the United States’ early at-
4
tempts to learn more about COVID–19;
5
(C) China’s National Health Commissions’
6
duplicitous denial of the person-to-person trans-
7
missibility of COVID–19; and
8
(3) calls for the World Health Organization Di-
9
rector-General Dr Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus to
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retract highly misleading statements of support for
11
the Chinese Government’s response to COVID–19,
12
especially his praise for the ‘‘commitment from [Chi-
13
na’s] top leadership, and the transparency they have
14
demonstrated’’.
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« Reply #1009 on: March 26, 2020, 08:34:30 AM »

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"The Virus Is a Fire, and the Arsonist Is China"
« Reply #1010 on: March 26, 2020, 09:14:39 AM »
Jim Treacher at PJ Media nails it.

https://pjmedia.com/trending/the-virus-is-a-fire-and-the-arsonist-is-china/

"We did not do this. Every scrap of evidence points to the government of China."

"Put the blame where it belongs. #ChinaLiedPeopleDied."

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[Doug] I've been talking about China stealing from us all these years dispassionately, like observing that it's cloudy outside.  Now it's personal.  Their duplicity is killing Americans (and people everywhere else), it's killing our own freedoms  and it's killing our economy.  It's putting healthy people on edge and unhealthy people in isolation.  Grandchildren can't visit grandparents.  My Governor is telling my tenants not to pay rent - and it's happening because China lied.

China lied - people died.

At the end of this, they pay or we commit to helping take down the regime no matter how long it takes.  Broadcast our message to their people.  Hack their internet and media with truth and opposing opinions.  Insist on free elections and put the word out to everyone to settle for nothing less.  The time is coming to end our membership in organizations that treat the government of China as a member in good standing - until they are in good standing.  UN.  WHO.  IMF.  World Bank.  Insist on rightful treatment of Taiwan.  Etc.
https://spectator.us/abolish-world-health-organization/

Radio free China.
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Re: US-China (& Japan, South China Sea-- Vietnam, Philippines, etc)
« Reply #1011 on: March 29, 2020, 09:21:47 AM »
Pres. Trump had an hour long talk the other night with Chairman Xi.  You would think Trump would be furious at Xi for the dishonesty and coverup, but meanwhile they need each other in an existential, medical, economic, political and geopolitical crisis.  Luckily we already know Trump isn't a pushover on China, so we can trust that the reparations can wait. 

Being a top coronavirus government is scientist in China right now must be quite a balancing act.  He must maintain certain lies or go the way of the one who died in jail and the other 17 who disappeared with him.  He must also tell certain truths and share in the world knowledge that is being learned minute by minute with no time to waste.

Here is George Gao, head of the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention, trying to thread that needle.  There are political and scientific aspect to this interview, including the fact it took two months to get a response.

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/03/not-wearing-masks-protect-against-coronavirus-big-mistake-top-chinese-scientist-says

Not wearing masks to protect against coronavirus is a ‘big mistake,’ top Chinese scientist says

By Jon CohenMar. 27, 2020 , 6:15 PM

Science’s COVID-19 reporting is supported by the Pulitzer Center.

Chinese scientists at the front of that country’s outbreak of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) have not been particularly accessible to foreign media. Many have been overwhelmed trying to understand their epidemic and combat it, and responding to media requests, especially from journalists outside of China, has not been a top priority.

Science has tried to interview George Gao, director-general of the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), for 2 months. Last week he responded.

Gao oversees 2000 employees—one-fifth the staff size of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention—and he remains an active researcher himself. In January, he was part of a team that did the first isolation and sequencing of severe acute respiratory syndrome 2 (SARS-CoV-2), the virus that causes COVID-19. He co-authored two widely read papers published in The New England Journal of Medicine (NEJM) that provided some of the first detailed epidemiology and clinical features of the disease, and has published three more papers on COVID-19 in The Lancet.

His team also provided important data to a joint commission between Chinese researchers and a team of international scientists, organized by the World Health Organization (WHO), that wrote a landmark report after touring the country to understand the response to the epidemic.

First trained as a veterinarian, Gao later earned a Ph.D. in biochemistry at the University of Oxford and did postdocs there and at Harvard University, specializing in immunology and virology. His research specializes in viruses that have fragile lipid membranes called envelopes—a group that includes SARS-CoV-2—and how they enter cells and also move between species.

Gao answered Science’s questions over several days via text, voicemails, and phone conversations. This interview has been edited for brevity and clarity.


George Gao, head of the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention STEPHANE AUDRAS/REA/REDUX
Q: What can other countries learn from the way China has approached COVID-19?

A: Social distancing is the essential strategy for the control of any infectious diseases, especially if they are respiratory infections. First, we used “nonpharmaceutical strategies,” because you don’t have any specific inhibitors or drugs and you don’t have any vaccines. Second, you have to make sure you isolate any cases. Third, close contacts should be in quarantine: We spend a lot of time trying to find all these close contacts, and to make sure they are quarantined and isolated. Fourth, suspend public gatherings. Fifth, restrict movement, which is why you have a lockdown, the cordon sanitaire in French.

Q: The lockdown in China began on 23 January in Wuhan and was expanded to neighboring cities in Hubei province. Other provinces in China had less restrictive shutdowns. How was all of this coordinated, and how important were the “supervisors” overseeing the efforts in neighborhoods?

A: You have to have understanding and consensus. For that you need very strong leadership, at the local and national level. You need a supervisor and coordinator working with the public very closely. Supervisors need to know who the close contacts are, who the suspected cases are. The supervisors in the community must be very alert. They are key.

Q: What mistakes are other countries making?

A: The big mistake in the U.S. and Europe, in my opinion, is that people aren’t wearing masks. This virus is transmitted by droplets and close contact. Droplets play a very important role—you’ve got to wear a mask, because when you speak, there are always droplets coming out of your mouth. Many people have asymptomatic or presymptomatic infections. If they are wearing face masks, it can prevent droplets that carry the virus from escaping and infecting others.

Q: What about other control measures? China has made aggressive use of thermometers at the entrances to stores, buildings, and public transportation stations, for instance.

A: Yes. Anywhere you go inside in China, there are thermometers. You have to try to take people’s temperatures as often as you can to make sure that whoever has a high fever stays out.

And a really important outstanding question is how stable this virus is in the environment. Because it’s an enveloped virus, people think it’s fragile and particularly sensitive to surface temperature or humidity. But from both U.S. results and Chinese studies, it looks like it’s very resistant to destruction on some surfaces. It may be able to survive in many environments. We need to have science-based answers here.

Q: People who tested positive in Wuhan but only had mild disease were sent into isolation in large facilities and were not allowed to have visits from family. Is this something other countries should consider?

A: Infected people must be isolated. That should happen everywhere. You can only control COVID-19 if you can remove the source of the infection. This is why we built module hospitals and transformed stadiums into hospitals.

Q: There are many questions about the origin of the outbreak in China. Chinese researchers have reported that the earliest case dates back to 1 December 2019. What do you think of the report in the South China Morning Post that says data from the Chinese government show there were cases in November 2019, with the first one on 17 November?

A: There is no solid evidence to say we already had clusters in November. We are trying to better understand the origin.

Q: Wuhan health officials linked a large cluster of cases to the Huanan seafood market and closed it on 1 January. The assumption was that a virus had jumped to humans from an animal sold and possibly butchered at the market. But in your paper in NEJM, which included a retrospective look for cases, you reported that four of the five earliest infected people had no links to the seafood market. Do you think the seafood market was a likely place of origin, or is it a distraction—an amplifying factor but not the original source?

A: That’s a very good question. You are working like a detective. From the very beginning, everybody thought the origin was the market. Now, I think the market could be the initial place, or it could be a place where the virus was amplified. So that’s a scientific question. There are two possibilities.

Q: China was also criticized for not sharing the viral sequence immediately. The story about a new coronavirus came out in The Wall Street Journal on 8 January; it didn’t come from Chinese government scientists. Why not?

A: That was a very good guess from The Wall Street Journal. WHO was informed about the sequence, and I think the time between the article appearing and the official sharing of the sequence was maybe a few hours. I don’t think it’s more than a day.

Q: But a public database of viral sequences later showed that the first one was submitted by Chinese researchers on 5 January. So there were at least 3 days that you must have known that there was a new coronavirus. It’s not going to change the course of the epidemic now, but to be honest, something happened about reporting the sequence publicly.

A: I don’t think so. We shared the information with scientific colleagues promptly, but this involved public health and we had to wait for policymakers to announce it publicly. You don’t want the public to panic, right? And no one in any country could have predicted that the virus would cause a pandemic. This is the first noninfluenza pandemic ever.

Infected people must be isolated. That should happen everywhere.

George Gao, Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention
Q: It wasn’t until 20 January that Chinese scientists officially said there was clear evidence of human-to-human transmission. Why do you think epidemiologists in China had so much difficulty seeing that it was occurring?

A: Detailed epidemiological data were not available yet. And we were facing a very crazy and concealed virus from the very beginning. The same is true in Italy, elsewhere in Europe, and the United States: From the very beginning scientists, everybody thought: “Well, it’s just a virus.”

Q: Spread in China has dwindled to a crawl, and the new confirmed cases are mainly people entering the country, correct?

A: Yes. At the moment, we don’t have any local transmission, but the problem for China now is the imported cases. So many infected travelers are coming into China.

Q: But what will happen when China returns to normal? Do you think enough people have become infected so that herd immunity will keep the virus at bay?

A: We definitely don’t have herd immunity yet. But we are waiting for more definitive results from antibody tests that can tell us how many people really have been infected.

Q: So what is the strategy now? Buying time to find effective medicines?

A: Yes—our scientists are working on both vaccines and drugs.

Q: Many scientists consider remdesivir to be the most promising drug now being tested. When do you think clinical trials in China of the drug will have data?

A: In April.

Q: Have Chinese scientists developed animal models that you think are robust enough to study pathogenesis and test drugs and vaccines?

A: At the moment, we are using both monkeys and transgenic mice that have ACE2, the human receptor for the virus. The mouse model is widely used in China for drug and vaccine assessment, and I think there are at least a couple papers coming out about the monkey models soon. I can tell you that our monkey model works.

Q: What do you think of President Donald Trump referring to the new coronavirus as the “China virus” or the “Chinese virus”?

A: It’s definitely not good to call it the Chinese virus. The virus belongs to the Earth. The virus is our common enemy—not the enemy of any person or country.


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Chinese duplicity
« Reply #1013 on: March 29, 2020, 03:57:32 PM »

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Re: Chinese duplicity
« Reply #1014 on: March 30, 2020, 07:25:10 AM »
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/15804/china-duplicity

Yes.  We could have a topic called, "China Is Still Lying", and run it until the totalitarian regime is finally deposed.

 https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/03/29/cotton_chinese_government_still_lying_about_coronavirus_as_evidence_indicates_rising_death_tolls.html

Sen. Tom Cotton spoke about why he does not trust China's self-reported coronavirus data. "The Chinese Communist Party is still lying," he said.
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One can fully embrace 'free trade' and make exceptions for national security purposes, two different issues.  US-China relations relations fall under that caveat - until the totalitarian regime is finally deposed.

In my export career, I always needed a US government approved export license to ship [potential 'dual use'] high technology to the "People's Republic" of China.
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chinese researcher removed from lab
« Reply #1018 on: April 02, 2020, 08:14:34 AM »
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/chinese-researcher-escorted-from-infectious-disease-lab-amid-rcmp-investigation-1.5211567

The rest of the story goes blank as it always does.  Not our right to know.
 Plus we don't want to look as racist:

"Based on information received to date, the RCMP has assessed that there is no threat to public safety at this time," Robert Cyrenne said in an email to CBC News on Thursday.

PHAC is describing it as a policy breach and "administrative matter" and says the department is taking steps to "resolve it expeditiously," Eric Morrissette, the health agency's chief of media relations, said from Ottawa.

No one is under arrest or confined to their home, he added.

When asked for a response to the latest details, Morrissette said there would be no further comment "for privacy reasons."

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Perry Cuomo agrees with Trump and us
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Re: US-China (& Japan, South China Sea-- Vietnam, Philippines, etc)
« Reply #1026 on: April 05, 2020, 07:57:25 PM »
fourth post

Apparently the Chinese seized some islands from Vietnam in the aftermath of our war with Vietnam.  Here is the Vietnamese version of events:

https://www.facebook.com/pg/lsvnqa/photos/?tab=album&album_id=141216622590518

sent to me by a Viet FB friend.  Is an English version available?  Dunno.

His comments in English:

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Chinese ships attack Vietnamese fishing boats whenever they want to do that.
The disputed territory on the Paracel islands belonged to China since 1974. There is no way Vietnamese can get it back.
So sad for the fishing boats out there.

China killed Vietnamese people out there for their claims and from that day they are building up a lot of artificial islands like military bases and threat all of fishing boats from Vietnam, Philippines, Taiwan... whenever they are close to those islands

Marc Denny yes uncle before more than a year the Vietnamese war ended, Chinese did that because the Paracel islands belonged to the Vietnamese in the south (Viet South).

Likes a small price Vietnamese Communist (Viet North) paid for their guns, foods and all the supports from China.

And after that 5 years the war in the south west between Viet North with Cambodia began and China of course was behind Cambodia.

That made Vietnamese Communist so mad at wars and gave China a chance to attack Vietnam in the border with them in the six northern provinces in the same year 1979, my father joined the war.


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Re: US-China (& Japan, South China Sea-- Vietnam, Philippines, etc)
« Reply #1027 on: April 05, 2020, 09:18:25 PM »
Vietnam kicked China's ass in that little border war. Who knew the Vietnamese were good at guerrilla warfare?

 :wink:

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Apparently the Chinese seized some islands from Vietnam in the aftermath of our war with Vietnam.  Here is the Vietnamese version of events:

https://www.facebook.com/pg/lsvnqa/photos/?tab=album&album_id=141216622590518

sent to me by a Viet FB friend.  Is an English version available?  Dunno.

His comments in English:

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Chinese ships attack Vietnamese fishing boats whenever they want to do that.
The disputed territory on the Paracel islands belonged to China since 1974. There is no way Vietnamese can get it back.
So sad for the fishing boats out there.

China killed Vietnamese people out there for their claims and from that day they are building up a lot of artificial islands like military bases and threat all of fishing boats from Vietnam, Philippines, Taiwan... whenever they are close to those islands

Marc Denny yes uncle before more than a year the Vietnamese war ended, Chinese did that because the Paracel islands belonged to the Vietnamese in the south (Viet South).

Likes a small price Vietnamese Communist (Viet North) paid for their guns, foods and all the supports from China.

And after that 5 years the war in the south west between Viet North with Cambodia began and China of course was behind Cambodia.

That made Vietnamese Communist so mad at wars and gave China a chance to attack Vietnam in the border with them in the six northern provinces in the same year 1979, my father joined the war.

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The Paracel Islands and the naval battle of January 19, 1974
« Reply #1028 on: April 06, 2020, 05:34:34 AM »
The Paracel Islands and the naval battle of January 19, 1974
[Google translation of previous facebook link.]

The Paracel Islands are a battle between the Republic of Vietnam Navy and the Chinese Navy that took place on January 19, 1974, on the Paracel Islands, islands claimed by both sides. After France withdrew from Indochina under the Geneva Agreement of 1954, the Vietnamese nation inherited all control of this archipelago under the Agreement, all the southern territorial waters of the 17th parallel of Vietnam controlled by the French army. will be transferred to the Vietnam Country. After the Republic of Vietnam was established on the basis of inheriting the State of Vietnam, these islands were controlled by the Republic of Vietnam. During the transition between France and the State of Vietnam in 1956, the People's Republic of China occupied part of the archipelago and the Republic of China occupied Ba Binh Island. The Republic of Vietnam only retains and exercises a partial sovereignty over the islands but still claims sovereignty over the whole archipelago until the naval war occurs. After the battle, China occupied the entire Paracel Islands to date.
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China-US flights in Jan, NYT applauds Trump travel ban
« Reply #1029 on: April 06, 2020, 07:08:23 AM »
Trump claimed that 10,000 people a day were flying from China to the US before he imposed his travel ban.  NYT says it was more than that!

From the article:
"But the analysis of the flight and other data by The New York Times shows the travel measures, however effective, may have come too late to have “kept China out,”  "

Maybe because China lied - right up until that date.  And still lies about the virus, its deadliness and its origin.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/04/us/coronavirus-china-travel-restrictions.html

430,000 People Have Traveled From China to U.S. Since Coronavirus Surfaced

There were 1,300 direct flights to 17 cities before President Trump’s travel restrictions. Since then, nearly 40,000 Americans and other authorized travelers have made the trip, some this past week and many with spotty screening.
Passengers in Beijing before an American Airlines flight to Los Angeles in late January.

By Steve Eder, Henry Fountain, Michael H. Keller, Muyi Xiao and Alexandra Stevenson
    April 4, 2020

Since Chinese officials disclosed the outbreak of a mysterious pneumonialike illness to international health officials on New Year’s Eve, at least 430,000 people have arrived in the United States on direct flights from China, including nearly 40,000 in the two months after President Trump imposed restrictions on such travel, according to an analysis of data collected in both countries.

The bulk of the passengers, who were of multiple nationalities, arrived in January, at airports in Los Angeles, San Francisco, New York, Chicago, Seattle, Newark and Detroit. Thousands of them flew directly from Wuhan, the center of the coronavirus outbreak, as American public health officials were only beginning to assess the risks to the United States.

Flights continued this past week, the data show, with passengers traveling from Beijing to Los Angeles, San Francisco and New York, under rules that exempt Americans and some others from the clampdown that took effect on Feb. 2. In all, 279 flights from China have arrived in the United States since then, and screening procedures have been uneven, interviews show.

Mr. Trump has repeatedly suggested that his travel measures impeded the virus’s spread in the United States. “I do think we were very early, but I also think that we were very smart, because we stopped China,” he said at a briefing on Tuesday, adding, “That was probably the biggest decision we made so far.” Last month, he said, “We’re the ones that kept China out of here.”

But the analysis of the flight and other data by The New York Times shows the travel measures, however effective, may have come too late to have “kept China out,” particularly in light of recent statements from health officials that as many as 25 percent of people infected with the virus may never show symptoms. Many infectious-disease experts suspect that the virus had been spreading undetected for weeks after the first American case was confirmed, in Washington State, on Jan. 20, and that it had continued to be introduced. In fact, no one knows when the virus first arrived in the United States.

During the first half of January, when Chinese officials were underplaying the severity of the outbreak, no travelers from China were screened for potential exposure to the virus. Health screening began in mid-January, but only for a number of travelers who had been in Wuhan and only at the airports in Los Angeles, San Francisco and New York. By that time, about 4,000 people had already entered the United States directly from Wuhan, according to VariFlight, an aviation data company based in China. The measures were expanded to all passengers from China two weeks later.

In a statement on Friday, Hogan Gidley, a White House spokesman, described Mr. Trump’s travel restrictions as a “bold decisive action which medical professionals say will prove to have saved countless lives.” The policy took effect, he said, at a time when the global health community did not yet “know the level of transmission or asymptomatic spread.”

Trump administration officials have also said they received significant pushback about imposing the restrictions even when they did. At the time, the World Health Organization was not recommending travel restrictions, Chinese officials rebuffed them and some scientists questioned whether curtailing travel would do any good. Some Democrats in Congress said they could lead to discrimination.

[Important chart at the link, flights and numbers of passengers to US cities in January. I was unable to insert it.] Most to least: 
Los Angeles (LAX)
San Francisco (SFO)
New York (JFK)
Chicago (ORD)
Seattle (SEA)
Newark (EWR)
Detroit (DTW)
Washington (IAD)
Boston (BOS)
Dallas (DFW)
Honolulu (HNL)
Atlanta (ATL)
Houston (IAH)
San Jose (SJC)
Las Vegas (LAS)
Denver (DEN)
St. Louis (STL)

In interviews, multiple travelers who arrived after the screening was expanded said they received only passing scrutiny, with minimal follow-up.

“I was surprised at how lax the whole process was,” said Andrew Wu, 31, who landed at Los Angeles International Airport on a flight from Beijing on March 10. “The guy I spoke to read down a list of questions, and he didn’t seem interested in checking out anything.”

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Sabrina Fitch, 23, flew from China to Kennedy International Airport in New York on March 23. She and the 40 or so other passengers had their temperature taken twice while en route and were required to fill out forms about their travels and health, she said.

“Besides looking at our passports, they didn’t question us like we normally are questioned,” said Ms. Fitch, who had been teaching English in China. “So it was kind of weird, because everyone expected the opposite, where you get a lot of questions. But once we filled out the little health form, no one really cared.”

In January, before the broad screening was in place, there were over 1,300 direct passenger flights from China to the United States, according to VariFlight and two American firms, MyRadar and FlightAware. About 381,000 travelers flew directly from China to the United States that month, about a quarter of whom were American, according to data from the Department of Commerce’s International Trade Administration.

In addition, untold others arrived from China on itineraries that first stopped in another country. While actual passenger counts for indirect fliers were not available, Sofia Boza-Holman, a spokeswoman for the Department of Homeland Security, said they represented about a quarter of travelers from China. The restrictions, she added, reduced all passengers from the country by about 99 percent.

Mr. Trump issued his first travel restrictions related to the virus on Jan. 31, one day after the World Health Organization declared the outbreak a global health emergency. In a presidential proclamation, he barred foreign nationals from entering the country if they had been in China during the prior two weeks. The order exempted American citizens, green-card holders and their noncitizen relatives — exceptions roundly recognized as necessary to allow residents to return home and prevent families from being separated. It did not apply to flights from Hong Kong and Macau.

About 60 percent of travelers on direct flights from China in February were not American citizens, according to the most recently available government data. Most of the flights were operated by Chinese airlines after American carriers halted theirs.
ImagePresident Trump with the health secretary, Alex M. Azar II, at a Covid-19 briefing last month.

At a news conference about the restrictions, Alex M. Azar II, the health secretary, repeatedly emphasized that “the risk is low” for Americans. He added, “Our job is to work to keep that that way.”
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Health officials also announced an expansion of the screening beyond arrivals from Wuhan. Dr. Robert R. Redfield, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, explained that people would be screened for “significant risk, as well as any evidence of symptoms.” If there was no reason for additional examination, “they would be allowed to complete their travel back to their home, where they then will be monitored by the local health departments in a self-monitoring situation in their home.”

The procedures called for screening to be conducted in empty sections of the airports, usually past customs areas. Passengers would line up and spend a minute or two having their temperature taken and being asked about their health and travel history. Those with a fever or self-reported symptoms like a cough would get a medical evaluation, and if they were thought to have been infected or exposed to the virus, they would be sent to a hospital where local health officials would take over.

Passengers would also be given information cards about the virus and symptoms. Later versions advised people to stay at home for two weeks.

In a statement on Thursday, the C.D.C. described the entry screening as “part of a layered approach” that could “slow and reduce the spread of disease” when used with other public health measures.

“We cannot stop all introductions,” the C.D.C. added, noting that the coronavirus pandemic was “especially challenging due to asymptomatic and presymptomatic infections and an incubation period of up to two weeks.”

Separately, on Friday, the Department of Homeland Security said in a statement that the administration’s measures were “unprecedented” and allowed “the U.S. to stay ahead of the outbreak as it developed.”

Passengers including Mr. Wu described a cursory screening process when they arrived in the United States.

Mr. Wu, who has had no symptoms and has not become ill, said he was told to stay inside for 14 days when he landed in Los Angeles. He said he received two reminder messages the next day by email and text, but no further follow-up.

Another traveler, Chandler Jurinka, said his experience on Feb. 29 had an even more haphazard feel. He flew from Beijing to Seattle, with stops in Tokyo and Vancouver.

At the Seattle-Tacoma airport, he said, an immigration officer went through his documents and asked questions unrelated to the virus about his job and life in China. At no point did anyone take his temperature, he said.

“He hands me my passport and forms and says, ‘Oh, by the way, you haven’t been to Wuhan, have you?’” Mr. Jurinka said. “And then he says, ‘You don’t have a fever, right?’”

Like others, he left the airport with a card that recommended two weeks of self-quarantine and a promise that someone would call to check up on him. He said he never got a call.

Other travelers also said the follow-up from local health departments was hit-or-miss. Some received only emails or texts.

Jacinda Passmore, 23, a former English teacher in China who flew into Dallas on March 10, after a layover in Tokyo, got a thorough screening at the Dallas-Fort Worth airport. It took about 40 minutes, she said, before she was cleared for her flight home to Little Rock, Ark.

State health workers later dropped off thermometers at her house and insisted her entire family stay home for two weeks and provide updates on their condition.

“They asked us every day: ‘Have you stayed inside? Have you met anyone? Have you been quarantined?’” Ms. Passmore said. “They’re really nice about it. They said, ‘If you need anything, we can go grocery-shopping for you.’”

Nineteen flights departed Wuhan in January for New York or San Francisco — and the flights were largely full, according to VariFlight. For about 4,000 travelers, there was no enhanced screening.

On Jan. 17, the federal government began screening travelers from Wuhan, but only 400 more passengers arrived on direct flights before Chinese authorities shut down the airport. Scott Liu, 56, a Wuhan native and a textile importer who lives in New York, caught the last commercial flight, on Jan. 22.

Mr. Liu had gone to Wuhan for the Spring Festival on Jan. 6, but decided to come back early as the outbreak worsened. At the Wuhan airport, staff checked his temperature. On the flight, he and other passengers filled a health declaration form, which included questions about symptoms like fever, cough or difficulty breathing.

After they arrived at J.F.K. in New York, the passengers were directed to go through a temperature checkpoint. “It was very fast,” he said. “If your temperature is normal, they will just let you in.”

Mr. Liu said no one asked him questions about his travel history or health, and he received a card with information about what to do if he developed symptoms. At the time, there were no instructions to isolate. Mr. Liu said he and his friends all decided to do so anyway.

“I stayed at home for almost 20 days,” he said.
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A cargo plane charted by the U.S. State Department to evacuate Americans from Wuhan in February.
A cargo plane charted by the U.S. State Department to evacuate Americans from Wuhan in February.Credit...Edward Wang/Via Reuters

About 800 passengers on five charter flights were later evacuated from Wuhan by the U.S. government and directed to military bases, where they waited out two weeks of quarantine.

The charter flights began on Jan. 29. Instagram posts from one showed C.D.C. officials in full protective gear on the plane and escorting passengers after landing.

One group of passengers was eventually flown to Omaha to be taken by bus to a National Guard camp for quarantine. Video showed them accompanied by a full police escort, with lights flashing, helicopters overhead and intersections blocked off along the way.

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Re: US-China (& Japan, South China Sea-- Vietnam, Philippines, etc)
« Reply #1030 on: April 06, 2020, 10:39:34 AM »
Please post in Homeland Security thread as well.

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China's War Strategy
« Reply #1036 on: April 16, 2020, 07:46:55 PM »

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Re: US-China, Chinese propaganda
« Reply #1038 on: April 18, 2020, 09:41:51 AM »
The US needs to reach past, around  and through the government of China to the people.  We cannot allow the hatred of us by a billion people to grow and grow based on the lies of the regime.  If they want to lie about us, we get to answer that.

A good friend married a nice Chinese American woman recently (she grew up in China) and have a great marriage I think but there will always be some cultural differences that come up.  One time something was mentioned about putting a man on the moon and she said, "if you believe that".  (That isn't the history they were taught.)  Now they're taught it's US spreading coronavirus.  Enough is enough.  In the age of Trump, we fight back when people lie about us, no?
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https://twitter.com/paulmozur/status/1250784614177583104

My great fear is the chauvinism+xenophobia that come with China's new nationalism will stay after the virus has gone. In the past year the CCP has blamed foreigners for the Hong Kong protests, said we invented the issues in Xinjiang, and now the virus.
Kicked Out of China
As the coronavirus escalated to a worldwide crisis, China expelled our journalists — and surveilled our correspondents to thwart their reporting before they left.
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If you take Beijing at its word you'd be crazy not to be angry at the world. That's creating very ugly scenes at the moment. The lashing out at writer Fang Fang for chronicling Wuhan's suffering. The racism towards Africans in Guangzhou. It feels a new era
As Coronavirus Fades in China, Nationalism and Xenophobia Flare
Now that the pandemic is raging outside China’s borders, foreigners are being shunned, barred from public spaces and even evicted.
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And if you want to see how the fears and anger over the virus are being tied more broadly to the nationalism, today was national security day. A totally normal holiday, where buildings display slogans like this: “work together to fight traitors and oppose spies.”

    - Paul Mozur cpvered Asia for the NYT.

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Re: US-China (& Japan, South China Sea-- Vietnam, Philippines, etc)
« Reply #1039 on: April 18, 2020, 10:55:43 AM »
"The US needs to reach past, around  and through the government of China to the people.  We cannot allow the hatred of us by a billion people to grow and grow based on the lies of the regime.  If they want to lie about us, we get to answer that."

THIS.

Reading the McMaster piece now.
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17 year old Mark Steyn column
« Reply #1040 on: April 20, 2020, 09:07:22 AM »


Pasting Doug's post here:
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[Which thread do you want to be the 'China Lies' thread?  There is a lot of material.]

Following is a 17 year old Mark Steyn column with the word sars replaced with COVID-19:

The appearance of the virus itself was a surprise but everything since has been, to some extent, predictable. Because totalitarian regimes lie, China denied there was any problem for three months, and thereafter downplayed the extent of it. Because UN agencies are unduly deferential to dictatorships, the World Health Organization accepted Beijing's lies. This enabled SARS COVID-19 to wiggle free of China's borders before anyone knew about it. I mentioned all this three weeks ago, but only in the last couple of days has the People's Republic decided to come clean -- or, at any rate, marginally less unclean -- about what's going on.
http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0420/steyn042020.php3

Steyn continued, April 20, 2020:
"It is profoundly depressing - on CNN, the BBC, CBC, etc - to hear the credibility their reporters still give to ChiCom/WHO propaganda.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

Fool me thrice? Death on me."

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Re: Chinese sabre rattling
« Reply #1042 on: April 21, 2020, 02:45:15 PM »
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-security-idUSKBN2230GC

The correct response would be to land a Marine Expeditionary Force in Taiwan. We could call it "Operation Grass Mud Horse".



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WSJ: Here comes the Asia Defense Buildup
« Reply #1045 on: April 23, 2020, 11:14:47 AM »


Here Comes the Asia Defense Buildup
Lawmakers push for funding as China seeks Pacific dominance.
By The Editorial Board
April 21, 2020 7:19 pm ET


Washington strategists have been talking about a “pivot to Asia” for the better part of a decade, but it may take the coronavirus to make it a reality. Last week Republican Rep. Mac Thornberry, ranking member on the House Armed Services Committee, introduced $6 billion for a new initiative to deter Chinese expansion. This week Sen. Tom Cotton of the Senate Armed Services Committee will also propose major legislation to beef up U.S. forces in the Pacific.

Sen. Cotton wants his $43 billion legislation, first reported here, included in Congress’s phase four coronavirus relief package. He calls for $1.6 billion for precision weapons to prevent China from limiting “U.S. freedom of action or access to vital waterways and airspace.” The legislation also puts $1.3 billion toward changes in force design so American weapons and troops in the Pacific are less concentrated and vulnerable to attack. There are significant new funds for the Air Force and Navy, including for an additional Virginia-class attack submarine.

Much of this may not make it into a virus relief bill, but the appetite in Congress is growing for better military deterrence. The Journal reported last week that Rep. Adam Smith, the Democratic Chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, is working on legislation similar to Mr. Thornberry’s.

Meanwhile in the Presidential race, Joe Biden is sparring with President Trump over who is tougher on China. Expect parts of Sen. Cotton and Rep. Thornberry’s legislation to be included in next year’s National Defense Authorization Act, if a stand-alone bill doesn’t pass sooner. One obstacle is the likely belt-tightening after the coronavirus recession, which may force appropriators to divert funds from other theaters.

China has been exploiting the coronavirus crisis to throw its weight around in the Western Pacific. Beijing’s military exercises intended to intimidate Taiwan have grown more frequent; it has tightened its hold on disputed islands in the South China sea; and Chinese ships have increased their harassment of commercial craft from nations like Malaysia and Vietnam.

Military doves worry that the U.S. could provoke Beijing by upgrading American military capabilities to maintain a balance of power. But the real danger is that the People’s Liberation Army sees a window of opportunity amid the nationalist sentiment stirred up by President Xi Jinping. Against this backdrop it’s more important than ever for the U.S. to signal that it considers the independence of Pacific states a vital interest and isn’t retreating.


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« Reply #1047 on: April 23, 2020, 10:20:24 PM »
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Watch Out in the South China Sea
As U.S.-China tensions increase, the chance of a miscalculation grows.
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Navy personnel of Chinese People's Liberation Army Navy take part in a military display in the South China Sea on April 12, 2018.
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With the world preoccupied by the coronavirus pandemic, China has been looking to exert more military control in the South China Sea. This week three warships from the U.S. Seventh Fleet, joined by an Australian frigate, responded by sailing into the disputed waters in a show of force. The danger is that Chinese naval officers misread America’s public mood and think they can embarrass the U.S. without escalation.

The South China Sea is a critical waterway in the Western Pacific, bordered by Taiwan, Vietnam, Singapore, the Philippines, Indonesia and Brunei. Beijing has long claimed control over it, and during the Obama Administration it moved on its claim by militarizing islands despite international protests.

This month Vietnam said a Chinese ship deliberately rammed and sunk a Vietnamese fishing boat. Indonesia’s fishermen are also reporting escalating harassment, and in recent weeks Chinese government and militia ships have been tailing Malaysian oil-exploration boats.

U.S. freedom of navigation exercises are intended to affirm that Beijing cannot unilaterally seize control of the waterway. Some waters of the South China Sea are claimed by multiple neighboring countries, but China is the strongest power in the region and last week it announced its sovereignty over more islands over objections from Vietnam and the Philippines. China wants to assert its dominance, chasing other countries’ commercial maritime traffic out of waters even near their own coasts.

It’s widely believed that Chinese military officers are more hawkish and anti-American than Beijing officialdom claims to be. While the military has historically been reined in, President Xi Jinping has been doubling down on nationalism to consolidate his control amid the coronavirus crisis. Chinese propaganda has also amplified the virus troubles aboard the USS Theodore Roosevelt aircraft carrier, a premier American naval asset in the Pacific, to suggest U.S. vulnerability.

Another potential flashpoint is Taiwan, which has won deserved international recognition for its handling of the coronavirus. That’s also infuriated China, which has increased military flyovers close to the island.

U.S.-Chinese tensions are also increasing, as Americans blame China for its deceptions about the coronavirus in an election year. Chinese propagandists have claimed the U.S. may have created the virus.

Under these circumstances the chance of a military miscalculation increases. Even something like the Hainan Island incident, when a U.S. and Chinese plane collided in 2001, would require careful de-escalation. The coronavirus is consuming most of America’s political oxygen, but Chinese military commanders should not think this is a moment to tangle with the U.S. if they encounter each other at sea. China’s geopolitical opportunism amid the pandemic has turned opinion against Beijing.

Freedom of navigation exercises are important but not enough to secure the Western Pacific from Chinese domination. The U.S. has remained neutral on territorial claims, but it may need to start recognizing claims of countries like Vietnam to make China pay a price for further expansion. The U.S. should also try to maintain its defense pact with the Philippines under mercurial President Rodrigo Duterte.

China’s recent behavior has badly damaged its claims to be a global stakeholder that plays by the rules. The U.S. is right to make clear that it remains a Pacific power and that the coronavirus hasn’t lessened its resolve.


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