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Re: US-China (& Japan, South China Sea-- Vietnam, Philippines, etc)
« Reply #750 on: April 18, 2019, 08:26:00 AM »
Enabling Taiwan to go nuke presents some REAL interesting scenarios  :-o :-o :-o

Yes.  One scenario I see is to make the scheduled re-unification date: never.  Two, DPRK threat neutralized.  Three, an end to the PRC acting like they rule the whole region.

There have been no nuclear weapon use deaths since 1945.  The main effect of Taiwan going nuclear IMHO will be what will NOT happen because of greatly increased deterrence.

What scenarios were you thinking?

The reality is that Taiwan or Japan is quite capable of going nuclear without our assistance or permission.

I agree.  They are both technologically far ahead of other regimes that have gone nuclear.  My guess would be that the only nuclear challenge for both is political.

Adding these two countries plus maybe Australia to the nuclear club would make the region and world safer, IMHO.  Try running those Russia vs US or China vs US war game simulations again with India, Japan, UK, France, Taiwan, Israel and Australia (hopefully) on our side and maybe the outcome changes.  Nothing brings security like deterrence.

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Re: US-China (& Japan, South China Sea-- Vietnam, Philippines, etc)
« Reply #751 on: April 18, 2019, 10:09:51 AM »
Gearing up to go nuclear takes time AND is detectable.  China is not likely to sit back and let it happen.

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Re: US-China (& Japan, South China Sea-- Vietnam, Philippines, etc)
« Reply #752 on: April 18, 2019, 07:06:35 PM »
Gearing up to go nuclear takes time AND is detectable.  China is not likely to sit back and let it happen.

Detectable, like when Pakistan did it and our IC learned about it on CNN? Apartheid South Africa and Israel became nuclear powers decade ago.


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Re: US-China (& Japan, South China Sea-- Vietnam, Philippines, etc)
« Reply #753 on: April 18, 2019, 07:54:16 PM »
Fair points, but no one was watching them with the technology and sense of purpose that the Chinese now watch Taiwan.


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Stratfor: China encroaches on Australia's backyard
« Reply #756 on: April 23, 2019, 05:07:48 AM »


Apr 23, 2019 | 10:30 GMT
11 mins read
China Encroaches on Australia's Backyard
One of Fiji's many islands. Fiji is one of the four independent countries that make up the Melanesian subregion of the Pacific Islands. The other three include Papua New Guinea, the Solomon Islands and Vanuatu.

    China's increasing economic ties to Papua New Guinea, Fiji and Vanuatu are threatening Australia and New Zealand's historic grasp on the Pacific island subregion of Melanesia.
    In coordination with the United States, both Australia and New Zealand will deploy their subregional heft and longstanding diplomatic, economic and defense ties to counter Beijing's efforts and, in turn, maintain their prominent role among the island countries.
    But China's infrastructure largesse and massive market for raw materials, along with its ambitions in the greater region, will solidify Beijing's presence in Melanesia — challenging the broader U.S. strategic hold on the South Pacific in the process.

On the world stage, Australia ranks as a middle power at best. But among the islands of the Pacific Ocean, Australia is almost a superpower — serving as a major source of aid, a hungry market and a stalwart defense ally for these tiny nations. This is especially true in the subregion of Melanesia, which has long been a key backstop for U.S. dominance in the Asia-Pacific. Australia and New Zealand each have a strong incentive to bolster Washington's power in the subregion both to amplify their own positions on the world stage and prevent security threats to their respective countries.

But China's increasing presence in Melanesia's resource-rich economies and infrastructure outlays, along with signs of nascent military ambitions in the area, are now threatening Australia's and New Zealand's preeminence in the region — and, by extension, that of the United States. The U.S. allies have attempted to stem China's spread by leveraging their historic large outlays of aid and defense assistance, as well as their regional diplomatic role. But Australia's own economic ties with China, as well as increasing internal pressures to cut international aid, will restrict Canberra's ability to counter Beijing — opening the door for a more permanent Chinese presence in the Pacific Islands.

The Big Picture

In our 2019 Annual Forecast, Stratfor highlighted the role of U.S. allies in the intensifying great power competition between the United States and China. The Pacific subregion of Melanesia is one such area where this dynamic is now on full display. The United States has long relied on Australia and New Zealand to check its rivals in the Pacific Islands. But China's recent rise in Melanesia is providing opportunities for these small island nations to play the great powers off each other.


Melanesia is one of three subregions of the Pacific Islands, along with Micronesia and Polynesia. In addition to Australian and French holdings, the subregion is home to four independent countries: Vanuatu, the Solomon Islands, Fiji and Papua New Guinea.

Papua New Guinea is by far the largest country in Melanesia, both in terms of landmass and population. With an economy based on mineral and hydrocarbon exports, Papua New Guinea also boasts the third-highest gross domestic product in the Pacific behind New Zealand and the U.S. state of Hawaii. Fiji, however, has the most developed economy in the subregion, based in manufacturing. And all of Melanesia, including Vanuatu and the Solomon Islands, have more capacity for economic self-sufficiently than their smaller peers elsewhere in the Pacific.

But in order to exploit their land and maritime resources, the countries of Melanesia require sizable investment, access to large markets and infrastructure assistance, as well as defense aid to ensure stability and police their extensive waters. This means Melanesian nations must seek larger powers to act as patrons — a role that has historically been filled by Australia and New Zealand, due to the threats the islands pose to their security.

At the narrowest point of the Torres Strait, Papua New Guinea is just 150 kilometers (roughly 93 miles) from the Australian mainland, while the more far flung Melanesian islands all front Australia's densely populated and economically vital east coast. Along with Australia, the British Empire's reign in the Pacific encompassed Fiji, Vanuatu and the Solomon Islands for much of its history. Then after World War I, Australia inherited rule over what is now Papua New Guinea from British and German imperial control — largely administering the country from 1919 until it gained independence in 1975. Today, all of these countries remain in the British Commonwealth alongside Australia, which still presides over three external territories in Melanesia: Norfolk, Phillip and Nepean islands.

A Security Stronghold

In the broader U.S. strategic map of the Pacific, Melanesia overlaps with the so-called second island chain, which extends south from Japan through Micronesia to Papua New Guinea. During World War II, Melanesia was the starting point of the northern thrust of the U.S. island-hopping campaign to defeat imperial Japan, which had sought to use the islands' position to sever transit between the United States and Australia and New Zealand.

But while Melanesia is just one of Washington's many adjuncts to the broader Pacific, the subregion serves as crucial security foothold for Australia. Australia's larger defense strategy rests on two pillars: The first, called "forward defense," consists of supporting the United States and its allies in sometimes distant conflicts to ensure global order and to secure Washington's support in return, should Canberra ever come under threat. And the second, called "continental defense," focuses on defending Australia's maritime approaches, many of which run through the ocean surrounding Melanesia.

During World War II, Japan's invasion of Papua New Guinea and Indonesia sparked fears that Australia would be next. And the 1970s brought concern that the decolonizing countries of Melanesia would become targets for Soviet expansion. But even without the contingency of a military invasion, the proximity of the islands to Australia means that unrest or instability can bring refugees to the country by sea or compel a messy intervention.

To this end, Australia — and to a lesser extent, New Zealand — have long operated as Melanesia's prime beneficiaries. Both founding members of the premier regional coordinating body, the Pacific Islands Forum, these two countries help bankroll all of the major regional cooperation organizations. Australia has also played a defense role in Melanesia and the broader Pacific islands by providing patrol vessels, training, infrastructure and arms sales.
China's Rise

However, China's precipitous economic rise and growing clout in the Pacific have begun to impinge on Australia and New Zealand's historic maritime domain. Between 2011 and 2018, China's total committed aid to the entire Pacific Islands region was second only to Australia's.

In addition to serving as a valuable source of hydrocarbon and mineral resources, China sees Melanesia as a key foothold in the broader Pacific Islands — and one that extends its reach outside of the first and second island chains off the east Asian coast. And as a result, Papua New Guinea, Fiji and Vanuatu have all joined China's massive Belt and Road Initiative, along with several other Polynesian and Micronesian nations in the Pacific.

Papua New Guinea: In recent years, China has significantly expanded its economic footprint in the subregion's largest country, Papua New Guinea. In 2018, Beijing narrowly beat out Australia to become the country's top destination for mineral and hydrocarbon exports. And unlike Australia, China's imports from the country are steadily increasing, growing 17 percent between 2014 and 2018, while Australia's shrunk by 3 percent and U.S. ally Japan's dropped 2 percent. From 2012 to 2018, China invested a total of $4.78 billion into Papua New Guinea. Beijing also now holds nearly a quarter of Papua New Guinea's external debt (roughly $588 million), and committed more aid to the country than Australia between 2011 and 2018.

Fiji: In 2006, a coup led Australia and New Zealand to upend their diplomatic relations with Fiji, impose sanctions and push the country out of the Pacific Islands Forum and the British Commonwealth. While Fiji was isolated from the West, China quickly swooped in to fill the gap — investing a total of $270 million into the country between 2009 and 2014, when it transitioned back into a civilian-led government And while Australia's ties with Fiji have since renormalized, China has nonetheless managed to maintain much of the headway it had secured during Canberra's absence.

Between 2011 and 2018, China committed $340 million in aid to Fiji and overdelivered — doling out 340 percent of that amount across 42 projects. By contrast, Australia has spent only 84 percent of the $424 million it committed. Today, Beijing holds $249.2 million of the country's external debt, about 37 percent of the total. China has also deepened its links with the Fijian police forces, even cooperating with Fiji to send Chinese personnel to New Zealand to apprehend Chinese nationals.

Vanuatu: China has also bolstered its ties with Vanuatu, with particular interest in its exports as well as military facilities. Beijing now holds nearly half of the country's total debt at $134 million and, like Papua New Guinea, is now the country's top trade partner. In 2016, a Chinese state-owned enterprise renovated the Luganville Wharf on the country's Espiritu Santo island, located near where U.S. forces were based during World War II. The revamped wharf is intended to host cruise liners, but its size has fueled speculation about eventual dual military use. Reports have also emerged that China is considering building an unspecified military facility on the island, though Vanuatu has denied these rumors.
Australia and New Zealand's Response

Beijing's outreach in Papua New Guinea, Fiji and Vanuatu is long-term and will no doubt be sustained, particularly as the Chinese market grows at a pace Australia cannot hope to match. But joint U.S.-Australian efforts to counterbalance China in Melanesia have achieved some success in containing the Chinese rise.

In response to China's overall push into the region, Australia announced plans in November 2018 for a $2.14 billion infrastructure package for transportation, energy, telecommunications and water projects across the Pacific islands. This will consist of $1.4 billion infrastructure bank and $710 million for facilitating Australian investment into the islands. The country also plans to expand its Pacific Maritime Security Program to provide further patrol vessels while expanding it to include aerial surveillance.

In late 2018, Australia, Japan, the United States and New Zealand teamed on a joint $1.2 billion upgrade to Papua New Guinea's electric grid. The upgrade included new telecommunications infrastructure as well, in an effort to counter Chinese tech giant Huawei's plans to install 3,390 miles of undersea cables linking Papua New Guinea's outlying islands. In August 2018, there were also signs China was interested in helping to develop the Lombrum naval base on Papua New Guinea's Manus Island, where a Chinese state-owned enterprise is already carrying out an airport project. Australia and the United States swiftly moved to preempt China's move — announcing just two months later that they would partner to develop the base instead.

When it comes to defense aid in particular, Canberra still has the edge over Beijing due to its proximity and naval capacity. In Fiji, for example, China and Australia have both provided boats to help the country patrol and surveil its waters. But in August 2018, Fiji's government selected Australia over China to fund its Black Rock military facility by offering a holistic contract that included more infrastructure and training agreements, which Beijing could not match. 

China's Permanent Presence

However, Australia and New Zealand's historic role as the premier power in Melanesia has never been without controversy among the region's nations. Over the decades, both countries have found themselves embroiled in political situations that have periodically upended relations with the subregion's countries, such as their post-coup divorce with Fiji in 2006. Canberra and Wellington's assistance have always been contingent on Melanesian countries upholding democratic norms as well, such as good governance and transparency — with the hopes that such structures would foster long-term stability and eventually wean them off aid altogether.

Unlike Australia and New Zealand, China's outreach isn't contingent on Melanesian countries upholding democratic norms — making Beijing's assistance more appealing, and potentially more reliable.

Australia, in particular, is also facing a domestic political push to decrease aid payouts, leading to worldwide cuts and a cap at $4.2 billion through 2022. And while the Asia-Pacific region has so far largely been shielded from these cuts, continued pressure from Canberra could eventually bring assistance to Melanesia further under the knife.

But as Australia wrings its hands about aid costs, China, by contrast, is likely to only increase its overseas infrastructure spending as a way to keep its domestic industry churning amid its economic slowdown. This, along with Beijing's great power competition with the United States and Melanesia's alignment with its global Belt and Road Initiative, means China will only look to anchor its hold and further spread its influence across the islands. And unlike Australia, China's outreach doesn't come with any strings attached to the nations' regional activity — making its assistance more appealing (and potentially more reliable, should Canberra begin tightening its purse strings).

Within this new reality, Australia will move to check any efforts that impinge on its defense of the maritime approaches to the continent — though such efforts will continue to be more reactive than proactive. Australia's economy is also deeply entwined with that of China's, which will force it to navigate between its U.S. defense ties and its Chinese trade relations. As a result, Australia will avoid taking too confrontational of a stance against China, and will instead focus on working with and around Melanesia's eastern suitor to ensure the West keeps its edge.

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GPF: Chinese Marines-- prep to invade Taiwan?
« Reply #757 on: April 24, 2019, 12:30:07 PM »


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April 24, 2019



By GPF Staff


Daily Memo: China’s Marine Corps, the Hypersonic Race, Sissi’s Extended Term


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China’s expanding marine corps. According to a report aired by China’s state broadcaster, the country’s marine corps “has been expanded and upgraded to a unit of its own.” China’s marine corps was first established in 1953, but the country has long been unable to field an amphibious force capable of retaking Taiwan, and with this announcement, the People’s Liberation Army Navy (the marine corps will still be part of the navy) is making clear its intention to increase efforts to build such a force. With China’s push into the South and East China seas, Beijing has more territory to defend, which requires amphibious capabilities. Recent estimates from the Jamestown Foundation put China’s marine corps at around 40,000 strong, much smaller than that of the U.S. (about 200,000 soldiers).



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French freedom of navigation sail through Taiwan Straits
« Reply #758 on: April 25, 2019, 09:10:37 AM »
French vessels in Asian waters. U.S. officials told Reuters that a French frigate, the Vendemiaire, sailed through the Taiwan Strait on April 6, shadowed by the Chinese navy. In response, Beijing canceled an invitation for Paris to attend a naval parade held earlier this week to celebrate 70 years since the Chinese navy’s founding. One unnamed U.S. official said they were unaware of previous French military passages through the contentious strait, but a researcher quoted by the South China Morning Post said such operations by France and other countries were not uncommon – they just had not been disclosed before. Whatever the case may be, the United States decided to publicize the passage this time.


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We Are Going To Lose The Coming War With China
« Reply #761 on: April 26, 2019, 11:15:46 PM »
We Are Going To Lose The Coming War With China
 Kurt Schlichter |Posted: Mar 21, 2019 12:01 AM
The opinions expressed by columnists are their own and do not represent the views of Townhall.com.

Nations famously tend to always try to fight the last war, and what America is preparing to do today with the newly assertive China is no exception. The problem is our last war was against primitive religious fanatics in the Middle East and China is an emerging superpower with approaching-peer level conventional capabilities and an actual strategy for contesting the United States in all the potential battlespaces – land, sea, air, space and cyber. America is simply not ready for the Pacific war to come. We’re likely to lose.

In Desert Storm, Saddam Hussein was dumb enough to choose to face a U.S. military that was ready to fight its last war. That last war was the Cold War, where the Americans were prepared to fight a Soviet-equipped conscript army using Soviet tactics. And Saddam, genius that he was, decided to face America and its allies with a Soviet-equipped conscript army using Soviet tactics, except fractionally as effective as the Russians. It went poorly. I know – I was there at the VII Corps main command post as his entire army was annihilated in 100 hours.

Chances are that the Chinese will not choose to fight our strengths. In fact, those chances total approximately 100%.

It’s called “asymmetrical warfare” in English. What it’s called in Chinese I have no idea, but Sun Tzu wrote about it. Don’t fight the enemy’s strength; fight his weakness. Strike where he is not. Spread confusion about your intentions; force him to lash out. It’s all there in The Art of War; it’s just not clear anyone forming our current American military strategy has read it. Maybe they would if we labeled it “Third World” literature and said checking it out would check a diversity box for promotion.


We seem intent on fighting not the enemy we face but the enemy we want to face. This is a rookie mistake. And we’ve built our strategy around that error. Take aircraft carriers. I have a sentimental attachment to those potent floating fortresses – the Schlichters are usually Navy officers and I’m the random green sheep who went Army. There was a picture of my dad’s carrier (the U.S.S. Lake Champlain) hanging in my house as a kid. I love them – but in 2019 they’re a trap.

We’re hanging our whole maritime strategy in the Pacific Ocean around a few of these big, super-expensive iron airfields. If a carrier battle group (a carrier rolls with a posse like an old school rapper) gets within aircraft flight range of an enemy, then the enemy will have a bad day. So, what’s the super-obvious counter to our carrier strategy? Well, how about a bunch of relatively cheap missiles with a longer range than the carrier’s aircraft? And – surprise – what are the Chinese doing? Building a bunch of hypersonic and ballistic anti-ship missiles to pummel our flattops long before the F-35s and F-18s can reach the Chinese mainland. We know this because the Chinese are telling us they intend to do it, with the intent of neutering our combat power and breaking our will to fight by causing thousands of casualties in one fell swoop.

The vulnerability of our carriers is no surprise; the Navy has been warned about it for years. There are a number of ideas out there to address the issue, but the Navy resists. One good one is to replace the limited numbers of (again) super-expensive, short-range manned aircraft with a bunch more long range drones. Except that means the Naval aviation community would have to admit the Top Gun era is in the past, and that’s too hard. So they buy a bunch of pricy, shiny manned fighters that can’t get the job done.

Another mistake is over-prioritizing quality over quantity, which is the same mistake the Nazis made with their tanks. The Wehrmacht had the greatest tanks in the world – all top notch. Really good tanks. Tank-to-tank, they were the best – the dreaded Tiger had an 11.5-to-1 kill ratio. The Americans and Russians had merely decent tanks, just multiples more of them. Quantity has a quality all its own. Right now, America has something like 280 ships. We’ll have about 326 by 2023. That’s to cover the entire world. We had 6,768 ships when WWII ended in August 1945

Of course, it would also be nice if the Navy would emphasize seamanship and basic skills again so that it could keep its super-expensive ships from running into other vessels. The U.S.S. Fitzgerald collision not only killed some of our precious sailors, but took out a key weapons platform – 1/280th of our entire fleet! – because its officers failed again and again and because key systems on the ship were out of commission.

This is inexcusable, but it is being excused. The focus of our military has shifted from victory to satisfying the whims of politicians. Here’s a troubling thought – if you go to one of the service branches’ War Colleges and poll the faculty and students about America’s greatest strategic threat, as many as 50% of the respondents will tell you it is “climate change.” That’s not an exaggeration. Our military is supposed to be dealing with the Chinese military and its brain trust is obsessing about the weather in 100 years.

The Chinese are going to continue dumping exponentially more carbon than America into the air and preparing to take us down while we focus on this kind of frivolous nonsense. Did you know the Chinese are pillaging our tech here in America, while our intelligence community’s incompetence led to our spy networks in China being rolled up? Probably not – these are one-day stories because the elite in DC and the media are busy trying to push the guy who won the last election out of office.

Here’s how the Chinese win. First, they take out our satellites. You know the GPS location service on your phone? Satellites, which are easy to hit. Say “bye-bye” to much of the ability of our precision weapons to find their targets. Also up for destruction are the communications satellites we rely on to coordinate our operations. And then there is the Chinese cyberattack, not only on our military systems but on systems here at home that control civilian power, water and other logistics. A U.S military with no comms and no computers is essentially the Post Office with worse service. An America with a ruined internet is Somalia.


Then they hit our land bases on Guam, Okinawa and elsewhere with a blizzard of missiles, knocking them out and annihilating our aircraft on the ground. Maybe we could respond with B-2s flying from the continental United States. We have 19 whole combat-capable aircraft, assuming a 100% operational readiness rate, which is just not a thing. We might even take out a few missile batteries on the Chinese coast. We won’t know the difference though. As for our carriers, if they come to play, they are likely going to get sunk, and if they stay out of the fight, they are merely useless – assuming quiet diesel subs do not find and sink them.

This is not a surprise. We play wargames against the Chinese all the time, and we lose.

Much of this seems to be picking on the Navy, but that’s only because the Navy would take the lead in a fight against the Chinses in the Pacific. The other branches have similar issues with strategy, leadership and equipment. So, what is the answer? The answer may well be to reframe the question – instead of determining our objectives and then failing to provide the capabilities to achieve them, maybe we need to decide what capabilities we are willing to provide and form our strategic objectives to meet those realities. Moreover, we need to get it through our heads that no one is going to be as dumb as Saddam was and conveniently fight us the way we want to be fought. We need a complete strategic mindset revolution, one that moves from a few super-expensive systems to many affordable ones. We need to say good-bye to legacies of the 20th century, like mostly manned combat aircraft and a few huge carrier battle groups. We need to prepare to defeat the enemy we actually face, not the enemy we want to face.

On an equally cheery note, check out my novels People’s Republic, Indian Country and Wildfire, about an America split apart into red and blue nations at each other’s throats. Number Four is in progress for release this summer…and yeah, this time China is in the picture!

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GPF: US-China-Europe
« Reply #762 on: May 06, 2019, 01:41:22 PM »
By Ryan Bridges


Picking Sides: What Brexit Means for the UK, US and China


The controversy in London over the Huawei leak is about far more than technology.


A sacking in Whitehall is revealing the strain Brexit has put on the United Kingdom’s foreign policy. British Prime Minister Theresa May fired Defense Secretary Gavin Williamson on Wednesday over leaks to the press of conclusions from a British National Security Council meeting in late April. According to the leak, the British government had decided in the meeting that it would allow Chinese telecommunications firm Huawei to provide “non-core” components for the construction of the U.K.’s 5G mobile infrastructure. The NSC’s decision sparked immediate outcry from critics of the decision in the U.K. and U.S. officials who have been urging allies to shun Huawei technology. In a statement, Williamson denied that he had played a role in the disclosure.

Whoever leaked the Huawei decision likely hoped the backlash would force the government to reverse course and ban Huawei. A known China hawk, Williamson caused a diplomatic tiff with Beijing in February when he said the first deployment of the new HMS Queen Elizabeth aircraft carrier would be to the Pacific and that the U.K. needed to demonstrate its willingness to use “hard power” against China and Russia. In response, the Chinese government canceled British Chancellor Philip
Hammond’s planned visit to China.

More important than who leaked the decision, though, is what the discord within the British government says about the limits of British strategic flexibility. A year before the 2016 Brexit referendum, the British government had launched a deliberate campaign to improve ties with China. During a visit to Beijing in 2015, then-British Chancellor George Osborne hailed the start of a golden era in U.K.-China relations and set a goal to make China the U.K.’s second-largest trade partner by 2025. In March 2015, the U.K. caused outrage in Washington when it became the first Western country to join China’s Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank. The same year, the U.K. and China signed nearly 40 billion pounds (worth $60 billion in 2015) in bilateral trade deals.

When May took over as prime minister, she tapped the brakes on the golden era. Just weeks into her premiership, May delayed one of the most significant of those bilateral deals – plans for China’s General Nuclear Corporation to buy a 33 percent stake in the 20 billion pound Hinkley Point nuclear power project – so that her government could review the contract. During her first official visit to China in February 2018, May raised concerns about sensitive issues like intellectual property theft and steel dumping, and she refused to endorse China’s massive Belt and Road Initiative.

But in the age of “global Britain,” when the U.K. is downplaying the importance of ties with Europe in favor of the rest of the world and aspiring to free trade agreements with major trade partners, including China, May’s initial position was untenable. There’s been no sign of backtracking on the (unofficial) Huawei decision, even after the U.S. repeated its threat to cease information sharing with countries that use the Chinese firm’s 5G technology. And last week, Hammond offered “British project design and legal, technical and financial services expertise” to help China “realize the potential” of the BRI, even after the U.S. criticized Italy’s decision to sign a memorandum of understanding related to the project.

To be sure, countries around the world are searching for the appropriate balance in relations with the U.S. and China at a time when they are increasingly competing for influence. Countries like the U.K., Germany and France have some strategic flexibility lent by economic heft and a degree of physical isolation from the two powers, separated as they are by an ocean from the U.S. and by Eurasia from China – a position few others enjoy. But only London is facing the possible exclusion from a customs union and single market with its largest trading partners, forcing it to curry favor with countries like China in case it needs a rapid trade deal to make up for lost revenue. It’s London that is under domestic political pressure to demonstrate to voters that it can thrive on its own without the European Union. If Germany or France – who, unlike the U.K., aren’t actively seeking a trade agreement with Beijing – want something from China, they can call on a bloc with a combined economy larger than China’s to speak for them. If the U.S. wants to withhold a trade deal from one of them, it has to give up its aspiration for a deal with the EU – something the U.S. president has wanted for a while.

A year ago to the day of Williamson’s firing, the chairman of the pro-Brexit European Research Group, Jacob Rees-Mogg, wrote that without the EU, the United Kingdom could “build a truly special relationship” with the United States. British Trade Secretary Liam Fox said last November that Brexit gave the U.K. the rare opportunity to raise the “special relationship” with the U.S. to a new level. The problem now is that to do so, the U.K. must choose a side: It can’t have a super special relationship with the U.S. and a golden era with China at the same time. The U.K.’s eventual exit from the EU means Britain won’t have to take orders from Brussels, but it also means balancing between Washington and Beijing will be more important than ever. The deeper the strain in those relations, the less freedom Britain will have in its foreign affairs.

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GPF: China achieves nuke triad
« Reply #763 on: May 06, 2019, 01:47:32 PM »
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Daily Memo: China’s Nuclear Triad, Thailand’s New King, Gold’s Rising Popularity


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China completes the nuclear triad, developing a “global force.” On Thursday, the Pentagon released its annual report to Congress on the state of the Chinese military. It sheds light on a number of strategic and military modernization trends we’ve been watching closely. For example, it emphasizes that the Chinese navy is gunning for a full-time presence in the Indian Ocean basin and even the Arctic Ocean. It warns about possible military dimensions of the Belt and Road Initiative, the race for dominance in 5G, and China’s pursuit of hypersonic anti-ship missiles. This year’s report placed heavier emphasis than past years’ on China’s use of its coast guard and so-called “maritime militia” in grey zone operations in the South and East China seas – an emphasis reflected in the U.S. Navy chief's recently reported warning to Beijing that the U.S. was preparing to start treating coast guard and armed fishing vessels as combatants. Finally, it concludes that Chinese ballistic missile submarines have advanced enough to pose a credible sea-based nuclear deterrent.




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Re: US-China (& Japan, South China Sea-- Vietnam, Philippines, etc)
« Reply #767 on: May 09, 2019, 06:47:19 PM »
So, I have a tip that Beijing has put out an order for a full inventory of its rice reserves, to be done immediately.

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China is 5 times more dependent on exports to us than we are on exports to them.

United States Trade Representative
https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/china-mongolia-taiwan/peoples-republic-china
U.S. goods and services trade with China totaled an estimated $737.1 billion in 2018. Exports were $179.3 billion; imports were $557.9 billion. The U.S. goods and services trade deficit with China was $378.6 billion in 2018.

GDP US 2018 $20.5 Trillion  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_the_United_States
GDP China 2018 $13.4 Trillion  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_China

Exports ratio:
$557.9 billion China goods and services to US
/ 13.4 T China economy  = 4.2% of economy

$179.3 billion US goods and services to China
/ 20.5 T US economy  =  0.87% of US economy

China is 5 times more dependent on exports to us than we are on exports to them.

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GPF: Digging in for a longer trade war
« Reply #769 on: May 13, 2019, 10:45:12 AM »
Timely data, timely reminder!

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By Phillip Orchard


Digging in for a Longer Trade War


If the political constraints on Xi are so steep that Beijing can’t even rubber stamp its way out from under 25 percent tariffs, it doesn’t bode well for the negotiations going forward.


Last Thursday, Chinese Vice Premier Liu He flew to Washington for a last-ditch dinner with U.S. trade chief Robert Lighthizer to try to stave off an 11th-hour spike in U.S. tariffs. Evidently, there wasn’t all that much to discuss. The dinner ended with several hours still left on the clock. The 10 percent U.S. tariffs on some $200 billion in Chinese goods jumped to 25 percent at midnight, and just a few minutes later, China announced that it would respond with “necessary countermeasures” of its own. Foreboding as that may sound, there was at first reason to believe that the deal could still be salvaged. The U.S. is exempting shipments that have already left China, creating a little room for talks to get back on track. Except that a second round of talks on Friday between Liu and Lighthizer ended similarly, and everything coming out of Washington and Beijing suggests both sides are digging back in for a long fight. And on Monday, China announced that it would raise tariffs from 10 to 25 percent on $60 billion worth of U.S. exports.

It’s quite a reversal for a negotiations process that, by all accounts, had achieved just about everything that could reasonably be achieved at this point. There were reportedly only a handful of issues left to be resolved before U.S. President Donald Trump and Chinese President Xi Jinping could meet to sign a deal, and though that deal would have failed to ease the broader competition between the powers, it would have given China an opportunity to focus on its problems at home and the U.S. the chance to adopt a more targeted, long-term approach to addressing its vulnerabilities to China’s rise.

The outstanding points of contention – mainly, enforcement mechanisms – may have been irresolvable. But there’s little reason to think the major parts of the deal that had already been settled would abruptly come unraveled, so there are now serious questions about China’s willingness and ability to pay the price of U.S. demands – and about where the trade war goes from here.

Gang of Five

Trade negotiations are fraught processes complicated by any number of domestic or international political considerations and tactical decisions. Broadly speaking, there are five explanations for why they fail at this stage. For China, it’s probably a combination of all of them.

The first is that some outstanding disagreements simply can’t be resolved. This may ultimately prove true for the U.S. and China, but it doesn’t explain why things fell apart at the last minute. For context, the problem started a little over a week ago, when Beijing reneged on items it had already agreed to, according to several reports citing sources in Washington. Beijing, for example, struck from the draft agreement all pledges to codify its new commitments into law. If negotiators always knew it would be difficult to legislate their concessions, why make them in the first place?

The second is that this is all just standard, 11th-hour negotiating tactics. When one side (in this scenario, the Trump administration) touts progress in the negotiations and raises expectations for an imminent deal, it gives some degree of leverage to the other side to push for last-minute concessions. Beijing may have concluded that Trump was over-eager to get the deal done before campaign season kicked into high gear and, in doing so, may have overplayed its hand. If this is the case, negotiations are likely to get back on track shortly – once, that is, Beijing can find a way to save face and demonstrate that it’s not, as Chinese state media put it, “negotiating with a gun to its head.”

The third is a mistake or misunderstanding by one delegation or the other. The language of diplomacy is filled with ambiguities and promises that sound good “in principle” but serve mostly to keep the talking rolling – that is, until the time comes for lawyers to put pen to paper. So it’s possible the U.S. thought Beijing had promised more than it actually had – whether because Beijing was being intentionally vague or because something got lost in translation. It happens often, especially when the main goal of one side (Beijing, in this case) is to give up as little as possible to get the more aggressive side to back down – or to drag out talks until circumstances change in its favor. It’s also common for a delegation from one side to over-promise, even if in good faith, only to see its concessions nixed by the leadership at home. There’s some evidence that this is the case with Liu, who appears to have been stripped of his title as “special envoy” and who hinted that he returned to the U.S. against the wishes of his boss.

The fourth is when a change in economic circumstances emboldens one side or the other. When the negotiations began, China was, in the throes of a private sector liquidity crunch, grappling with slowing demand for exports due to U.S. and European tariffs. Since then, modest stimulus measures have kicked in, its credit situation has improved, and its economy has largely stabilized – at least for now. The 10 percent tariffs are generally estimated to have dinged Chinese growth by around 0.5 percent, which is manageable for Beijing so long as it feels like it has the economy’s deeper pathologies under control. It’s hardly out of the woods yet. But things are calm enough at the moment that Beijing may very well have thought it could push a bit harder – especially if, as appears to be the case, it didn’t think the U.S. would escalate tariffs so quickly.

A Land of Men, Not Laws

The fifth and potentially most problematic for Beijing is when political circumstances change – for instance, when hardliners on one side or the other gain the upper hand and force negotiators to default on their agreements. For China, the non-starters we expected to see were structural issues such as state support for economically vital industries. But, curiously, it was Washington’s demands for protections on issues like intellectual property, forced technology transfers, and cybertheft – and, in particular, that they be written into law – that Beijing apparently couldn’t stomach.

It’s curious for a few reasons. For one, Beijing refuses to acknowledge that it forces foreign firms to hand over sensitive technology or engage in cybertheft – which it does – and thus would be unaffected if it outlawed the practice. For another, on issues like intellectual property rights, Xi’s government has been keen to push through reforms in these areas anyway. Indeed, liberalizers in Beijing are reportedly quietly thankful that the trade war provided cover to do so. It’s why these items, unlike structural reforms, were on the table in negotiations in the first place. Last and perhaps most important, China is a land of men, not laws. Technically, Beijing can quickly make, scrap, interpret, enforce or ignore laws however it sees fit. For U.S. demands that concessions be written into Chinese law to sink the negotiations – especially on issues where Beijing was amenable to concessions – it would mean Xi is a prisoner to unyielding political forces in China even more than previously thought.

In general, it’s not uncommon for a government to say something like, “Hey, we’d be happy to concede on this or that issue. But the legislature would never sign off.” This is an obvious constraint on negotiators but since it also puts the onus on the other side to either temper their demands or walk away, it’s also a potential source of leverage. China, with its rubber-stamp legislature, is somewhat different, of course, but the government still has to manage public resistance. Since taking power, Xi has been constantly griping about how “entrenched interests” impede much-needed reforms. The widespread recognition in Beijing of the need for a leader strong enough to suppress these interests and wrestle China into more sustainable shape is why Xi gained so much power in the first place.

Yet the political landscape in China has remained explosive enough to force Xi to move slowly in most areas and punt on some of China’s biggest challenges. Thus, in trade talks with the U.S., Xi may see little point in agreeing to things he might not be able to implement – especially on the expedited timetable demanded by Washington. Doing so would make the Chinese system look bad, would aggravate tensions with the U.S., and would degrade Beijing’s already poor reputation as a good-faith negotiator.

The U.S. was always going to struggle to find ways to enforce a trade deal with China. Getting Beijing to enshrine certain concessions into law would help in small ways, but it wouldn’t solve much. But if the political constraints on Xi are so steep that Beijing can’t even rubber stamp its way out from under 25 percent tariffs, it doesn’t bode well for the negotiations going forward. Of course, the escalation could dramatically alter the political cost-benefit analysis for both sides. China largely shrugged off the 10 percent tariffs. The 25 percent ones won’t be so easy. However, constrained though Xi may be by hawks in Beijing, he’s constrained more by the masses who will be bearing the brunt of the pain the new tariffs inflict.

Washington won’t escape unscathed either – tariffs from both sides have hit U.S. firms and consumers nearly as hard as their Chinese counterparts. The U.S. economy is overdue for a downturn anyway, and, evidently, it’s already campaign season again. A trade war is not just about who hits the hardest but also who’s willing to stay in the ring the longest – and, as we may be learning, who’s stuck fighting with one hand tied behind their back.

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last night Next Revolution with Steve Hilton : Trump was right all along
« Reply #770 on: May 13, 2019, 03:04:41 PM »
click on 8 minute video on lower right of screen :
https://www.foxnews.com/shows/next-revolution-steve-hilton

H Bush Clinton W Bush and Obama were all naive and made one sided deals with China while all along they took advantage of us, robbed us, spied on us , suppress their own people and are bribing their way around the world and increasing their weapons capability in a slow war with us.

 ONLY TRUMP PERCEPTIVELY SAW THIS FOR CLOSE TO IF NOT 30 YRS  while all the big shots sold us down the river - again.

Don't expect the enemy of the people to point this out except for Fox and the few we have in the media , and radio

Of course arm chair people like us saw this coming too for 20 yrs .

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« Reply #771 on: May 13, 2019, 03:25:30 PM »
CCP:  Can't get it to play for me.
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From my arm chair:

We are badly overextended. Russia-East Europe; Russia-Syria-Iran; Iran; North Korea; even Venezuela, our Southern Border. If China orchestrates problems for us on a number of these, we will be hard pressed to find the band width (and money) to deal with them.

Much of our thinking is the modern equivalent of a Maginot Line.

Per Boyd and his OODA loop he who sees and acts first will win.

China hacked 2.5 million of our Security Clearance applications. They have the manpower and the discipline to study them well. What do you think they are doing with what they have learned from them?

Much of our military supremacy is based upon our ability to observe up close from far away, and to issue commands based thereon-- satellites. We see and act first. China may well have the ability to neutralize that. Russia too.

Rock, Paper, Scissors: Yes our aircraft carriers are better and we have more of them, but China can neutralize them with land based missiles. The Philippines used to be an unsinkable carrier for us but it would appear that the Chinese have cleverly neutered this by intimidating and buying Duterte.

Hypersonic technology: We appear to be in third place on this behind China and maybe Russia. Fear of first strike capabilities can/will neuter will to act, even on actions short of military.

Goolag is enabling China’s net to isolate from ours and China, (and Russia, North Korea, and Iran?) have deeply penetrated ours. A purposeful cyber attack can have us in cranial rectal interface while key irreversible actions are undertaken.

China has many vulnerabilities too. Among them is that its bookkeeping is spectacularly dishonest and IMHO seriously under-reported bubbles are lurking. President Trump has shrewdly chosen the best strategy for us with Trade War.
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Re: US-China (& Japan, South China Sea-- Vietnam, Philippines, etc)
« Reply #772 on: May 13, 2019, 04:16:52 PM »
"China hacked 2.5 million of our Security Clearance applications. They have the manpower and the discipline to study them well. What do you think they are doing with what they have learned from them?"

https://warontherocks.com/2018/05/imagining-a-cyber-surprise-how-might-china-use-stolen-opm-records-to-target-trust/

IMAGINING A CYBER SURPRISE: HOW MIGHT CHINA USE STOLEN OPM RECORDS TO TARGET TRUST?
IAN BROWN MAY 22, 2018
SPECIAL SERIES - OFF GUARD
 Editor’s Note: This is the fourth installment in “Off Guard,” a series on surprise in war inspired by a new CSIS study. Read the rest of the series here.

 “What is the quickest way you can destroy an organization?… Mistrust and discord.”
-Col. John Boyd

The cyber attack — both real and imagined — has come a long way since Matthew Broderick nearly caused World War III with a 1200 bit-per-second modem and rotary phone in 1983. In the fictional realm, Broderick’s duel with the War Operation Plan Response computer has given way to the infrastructure fire sale from Live Free or Die Hard and, most recently, the multi-layered sabotage of everything from GPS to stealth fighters in Ghost Fleet. The real world has seen cyber surprises only a step removed from fantasy, with various actors disrupting civil networks and infrastructure, subverting military research projects, and using cyber salvos as a complement to physical military activity.

However, even as authors, screenwriters, and policymakers grapple with the potential fallout from cyber vulnerabilities in the physical realm — the blinding of sensors, degradation of communications networks, or deliberate infrastructure malfunctions — modern cyber attacks are increasingly aiming at the adversary’s less tangible mental and moral capabilities. The starkest example of this was Russia’s interference in the 2016 American presidential election, which significantly damaged those intangibles — faith in social and traditional media, transparency in political campaigning, even confidence in the integrity of the election results themselves — that will take a long time to repair.

I had this in mind, along with Boyd’s words about the best way to destroy an organization, when Mark Cancian invited me to participate in the Center for Strategic and International Studies’ “Coping With Surprise” working group. I decided to explore the impact of a hypothetical “trust attack” directed against Defense Department personnel as the opening salvo to conventional military operations. The recent past shows this type of cyber strike is possible; indeed, it’s a small miracle it hasn’t happened yet. While the federal government has a general framework in the National Cyber Incident Response Plan, the Defense Department’s cyber strategy remains a dangerously ad hoc patchwork of training and processes. This patchwork needs to be unified under a coherent and rapidly executable response framework that could be tailored down to the small-unit level, ensuring the resilience of American servicemembers against attacks targeting the most intimate aspects of their lives.

Envisioning a Chinese Trust Attack

My vignette — entitled “Assassin’s Mace” — is appended to Cancian’s final report. I sought to envision how China might seek to follow up on its 2015 hack of the U.S. Office of Personnel Management (OPM) database. By the time OPM security engineers detected the intrusion, hackers had enjoyed access to the OPM records — including millions of background checks, personnel files, and digital fingerprints — for almost a year. The OPM hack was by no means the first large-scale breach of a protected database, but it was unique in two aspects. First, these records contain by far the most detailed personal information yet accessed by a cyber intruder. Second, the hackers have not yet attempted traditional data exploitation by ransoming it back to the agency or selling it to third parties. These facts suggest the hackers have plans for the data beyond a quick payday. A widespread trust attack on Defense Department personnel would be one of the few things that could justify sitting on a goldmine of exploitable data. Moreover, knowing it could only exploit this information for so long before American countermeasures came into the play, I thought the Chinese government would want to “go big”: attack as many targets as possible at once, generate maximum confusion, and then use that window of confusion to quickly achieve goals it otherwise could not with a smaller attack.

My imagined Chinese cyber attack used the sensitive and detailed OPM records not to disrupt or degrade American military or intelligence systems, but rather to spread fear, mistrust, and discord among the men and women in uniform who operate those systems. During such a strike, hackers would lock out medical records, wipe away financial information, manipulate social media, and spread lies and half-truths about personal misconduct.

How might China shape such an attack? First, it’s difficult to understate the value of the records China stole. Background investigations; personnel files; digital fingerprint images; former addresses; phone numbers; Social Security numbers; lists of family members, dependents, and friends: these are all nuggets of unique information — and in fact, frequently the answer to security questions — that a motivated attacker could turn into keys unlocking virtually any digital account owned by the targeted individual or group. An intruder seeking to impersonate another person could not ask for a more comprehensive data set.

Second, a concerted attack exploiting OPM data would avoid patterns making it obvious an attack was happening. My vignette incorporated many variations. Navy sailors at a strategic port in Japan would find their families’ bank accounts emptied. Others received death threats on their Twitter feeds, with hackers adding further confusion by posing as third parties. I even imagined military spouses having intimate photos blasted across social media (and this was before the latest revelation of military-sourced revenge porn). One man using a phishing scheme managed to hack the login credentials of 250 celebrities to access their most intimate photos. A dedicated team of cyber intruders with the wealth of OPM records at their fingertips would find their phishing expeditions much simpler, and would be able to harm people somewhat more vital to national security.

An attacker could wreak further havoc by locking out digital medical records with ransomware, as North Korea allegedly did in the WannaCry episode last year. That intrusion alone cancelled surgical operations and delayed appointments across the entirety of Britain’s National Health Service. Medical hackers could also steal private records and threaten to sell the material on the dark web. A few well-publicized penetrations of personal devices belonging to senior officials — such as the hack of John Kelly’s cell phone — could spread further fear.

These efforts would strike at the individual level. But as Boyd said, the overall goal is destroying the cohesion of the organization. Thus, an attacker could combine individual confusion with the undermining of key trusted leadership. The best way to do this is to mix lies with the truth. Unfortunately, scandals like Marines United, “Fat Leonard,” and other harassment claims have already sown mistrust in the public mind and amongst the ranks. It’s entirely possible to envision China’s Strategic Support Force using personal information from OPM records to gain access to the accounts of senior leaders and hijacking them to plant and spread incriminating material.

An adept cyber competitor might also seek to weaken America’s alliances. My vignette described the viral dissemination of a YouTube video showing American servicemembers stationed on Okinawa sexually assaulting local citizens. Uniformed Americans have a dark history of sexual misconduct on the island, and the U.S military presence there is fraught with other tensions. Using bots, trolls, voice clones, artificial intelligence, and generative adversarial networks, China could create fake videos to turn the Okinawan population and Japanese government against America. Again, exploiting personal information from OPM records, it does not strain credulity to imagine Chinese hackers accessing a servicemember’s YouTube account, posting an explosive video, and then letting mistrust and confusion poison the relationship. Investigators would doubtless discover the truth eventually; but the point of such an attack, when combined with myriad other cyber strikes, is simply to sow enough mistrust and discord that the organization’s focus turns inward to deal with its own internal friction. In my vignette, the cyber attack on Defense Department personnel would disrupt their personal lives, poison command relationships, and corrupt key alliances to keep them from responding effectively to the opening moves of Chinese conventional operations in the South Pacific.

The attack would undermine individual and organizational morale to the point that the entire Defense Department would be obligated to take an “operational pause” to sort out fact from fiction and let servicemembers get their lives back in order. In the past, when facing a sufficiently severe problem, defense leaders have implemented wide-reaching pauses. Individual commands also often execute stand downs to address critical non-operational problems, like sexual assault or substance abuse. Even if Defense Department leaders did not execute a formal operational pause, the functional effect would be the same: Individuals and units would turn their focus inward to deal with the myriad crises caused by simultaneous widespread cyber attacks.

China would exploit the formal pause or general distraction to flood the South China Sea with conventional forces and pursue long-held national goals, be that securing economic supremacy across southeast Asia’s waterways or isolating Taiwan. A surprise cyber attack targeting the personal lives of American servicemembers would enjoy the dual benefit of not requiring detectable physical preparations, and making moot the question of how effective China’s anti-access/area denial and anti-stealth capabilities really are in combat. Even just a few days of confusion would be enough for conventional Chinese forces to radically alter the balance of power in the South Pacific.

Cyber penetrations are rarely permanent. Over time, experts usually find them and can often trace them with confidence to a particular group or country. Rebooting, wiping, or replacing corrupted hardware is fairly straightforward. Cohesion, morale, and fighting spirit, on the other hand, cannot be rebooted or grabbed off the shelf. A pervasive surprise cyber strike targeting those things closest to home for servicemembers could, without firing a single bullet, have a devastating impact on the American military’s ability to rapidly deploy, while generating lingering fear and mistrust even after counter-cyber efforts revealed the truth.

Not Just a Hypothetical

There are historical precedents for a widespread cyber attack used either to significantly disrupt an adversary’s government as a goal in and of itself, or as a prelude to military action. Russia preceded its invasions of Georgia, Crimea, and Ukraine with a variety of cyber operations. Aside from OPM, adversarial hackers have breached other American government agencies like the National Security Agency and State Department. And the National Health Service attack in Britain demonstrated how hostile organizations can exploit personal information — in this case, medical records. The aforementioned hypotheticals differ only in degree from capabilities attackers already have. And the Chinese government, in its purloined OPM data, enjoys an access key that other entities, like Russia, did not.

I used the OPM hack as my starting point, but Russia’s activities in the 2016 election provided a practical frame of reference. That attack targeted trust and other intangibles like faith in the U.S. political system. Russian operatives directed their attack against a few target sets — social media channels, a political party’s computer systems — and executed it with comparatively modest resources.

Yet Russia’s trust attack did not fully exploit this method’s potential. First, Russia seemed satisfied with spreading confusion and mistrust where it could get easy access, like social media and badly protected private networks. Russian hackers did not penetrate more hardened networks in the financial or defense sectors, possibly because they did not see the need, but more likely because they didn’t have an exploitable access point. Second, Russia did not treat the confusion achieved in the United States as an opportunity to pursue national objectives that required a direct confrontation with America. Russia spread confusion and mistrust as apparent ends in themselves, as noted in the official Intelligence Community Assessment: “Russia’s goals were to undermine public faith in the US democratic process … [to] apply lessons learned … to future influence efforts worldwide, including against US allies and their election processes.”

China, on the other hand, has both the opportunity and need for a maximized trust attack. The opportunity lies in possessing exploitable information that Russia lacked: the OPM database. Its need stems from the fact that any robust pursuit of national objectives in the South China Sea and against Taiwan would put it in direct conflict with American interests. While China has generally eschewed direct confrontation in recent years, we should not dismiss the possibility that China’s leaders might think they could come out ahead in a direct confrontation in their virtual backyard, especially in the wake of a debilitating trust attack against the American military.

Defending Against an Attack on Trust

How can America defend its military personnel against a determined cyber attack? Several measures are already either in place or on the way. The Pentagon’s recent elevation of Cyber Command to combatant command status shows it understands the fundamental need for a dedicated force on this battlefield. However, there is less consensus on what that force should look like. I’d argue this is not an area where the perfect should be made the enemy of the good. Whether cyber warriors are blue-haired civilians, Special Operations Command operators with doctorates in cyber security, or a mix of the two, America’s cyber force needs to be fighting on the virtual battlefield today.

Strategists have identified a growing need for a theory of cyber deterrence on the model of conventional and nuclear deterrence. Some have even suggested borrowing a system implemented in Estonia that essentially crowdsources cyber defense efforts among volunteers.

In their piece on trust attacks, Neal Pollard, Adam Segal, and Matthew Devost argued the United States needed to lead the way in developing protocols for protecting the integrity and trustworthiness of critical information systems. Such recommendations, along with the others listed above, are well and good. However, these measures will be inadequate in the absence of a unifying, DoD-specific framework, practical enough that subordinate units can derive their own cyber defense blueprints. What we need, in short, is a cyber mishap plan.

Mishap plans are familiar to any military aviator. Higher headquarters lay out a general mishap response framework for what immediate actions a unit should take once it determines a mishap has occurred. Subordinate units then tailor those plans to their unique operational circumstances. Units train their members on what actions they must take immediately to first keep the mishap from getting any worse, followed by steps to help the unit bounce back and return to normal operations as quickly as possible. The ready-made mishap plan ensures the squadron’s resiliency should the worst occur.

Yet the Defense Department does not currently offer any specific guidance to help units develop their own cyber mishap plans. Its last cyber strategy document came out in April 2015, before OPM disclosed its breach. Three years later, we still await the Pentagon’s release of a new strategy. And in the interim, the Government Accountability Office found the department had failed to develop a plan to sufficiently support civil authorities in the case of a cyber attack, and to train its staff on effectively implementing their responsibilities under the National Cyber Incident Response Plan. At lower levels, the escapades of Jeff and Tina might be sufficient to train individual members, but they do little to build unit resiliency against a broad cyber attack. A mishap plan gives units the framework for planning and executing the training necessary to build cyber resiliency at the unit level. The Defense Department owes its members a broad-based cyber strategy and response plan, tailored to military members, from which units can develop their own cyber mishap plans.

China, Russia, and others have seen the turmoil generated by using social media and a handful of vulnerable private networks to spread organizational discord. Russia poisoned America’s discourse in a scattershot approach with minimal investment and, in the case of the Democratic National Committee’s email server, a lucky typo. But it did not enjoy the special access that could be gained from a protected personal database like OPM.

A good mishap plan lets its personnel rebound from surprise attacks and prepares them to counter conventional follow-up moves an adversary might attempt during the confusion. As Cancian noted in the final CSIS report, the United States is particularly vulnerable to the surprise attack today because many of its discussions about conflict display a disturbing hubris. “Senior officials,” Cancian notes, “have repeatedly made claims that the U.S. military is not just the best in the world but the best the world has ever known. As with Greek heroes of legend and literature, hubris can lead to downfall.” The American military might enjoy an unmatched level of funding and equipment, but it could all be rendered moot by a cyber attack that bypassed the military’s physical superiority to disrupt its moral capacity to fight. The American government has already experienced disruptive practice runs in the OPM hack and 2016 election; those may be the last warnings we get before an opponent tries the real thing.

 

Ian T. Brown is a U.S. Marine Corps CH-53E pilot. He has previously discussed the ideas of Col. John Boyd, maneuver warfare, and conflict theory in the Marine Corps Gazette, War on the Rocks, Strategy Bridge, and the Professional Military Education podcast. His forthcoming book from the Marine Corps University Press, A New Conception of War, is a reexamination of the development of maneuver warfare doctrine in the Marine Corps. The opinions expressed here are the author’s alone and do not reflect those of the U.S. Marine Corps, the Department of Defense, or any part of the U.S. Government.

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Try this for Steve Hilton
« Reply #773 on: May 13, 2019, 04:18:39 PM »
I think about the first 8 minutes covers . TRump rightly calling out China 30 yrs before all the DC big shots who I might add got it all wrong:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ze39z6nSQg

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Re: US-China (& Japan, South China Sea-- Vietnam, Philippines, etc)
« Reply #774 on: May 13, 2019, 04:48:34 PM »
"even Venezuela,"

and the only reason I can see we even need to be involved at all is because of China and Russia taking advantage of the situation
so we can't leave it in a vacuum - I guess.

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Re: US-China (& Japan, South China Sea-- Vietnam, Philippines, etc)
« Reply #775 on: May 13, 2019, 10:19:45 PM »
Cuba is the main player in Venezuela.  Anyway, if we want to discuss, let's take it to the Venezuela thread.

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maybe we need another thread
« Reply #776 on: May 15, 2019, 08:24:40 AM »
***The cognitive dissonance of his Chinese Glibness ***:


https://www.yahoo.com/news/trade-war-bites-chinas-xi-preaches-openness-054033744.html

what horse shit!

trying to use racial or cultural conscious game playing to play Americans
we need to stop being patsies for the Chinese COMMUNISTS  :
don't give us lectures about cultural and racial superiority when they jail steal from Muslims and Christian in their own country ! and give everything to the Mandarins

This guy needs to be called out
but of course the MSM will call out Trump instead.

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STratfor: Beijing not budging yet
« Reply #777 on: May 15, 2019, 03:23:36 PM »


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May 15, 2019 | 22:15 GMT
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China: A Worsening Economy and Hardball U.S. Tactics Don't Budge Beijing
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The Chinese economy has continued to slow down. With the collapse last week of a trade deal with the United States, the prospect of a protracted trade war looms large — something that could compel the Chinese government to ramp up its stimulus efforts and adjust its trade negotiating strategy.

What Happened

New Chinese economic data from April has laid bare the continuing fragility of the world's second-largest economy despite Beijing's stimulus efforts. Industrial output, retail sales and investments all slowed last month, with retail sales and manufacturing investment growing at a respective 7.2 and negative 1.2 percent, their slowest pace in nearly 15 years. The data comes on top of declines in exports and manufacturing, suggesting the deceleration is occurring across the board and dampening hopes of recovery despite positive economic indicators in March.
Why It Matters

While trade talks between China and the United States have not completely collapsed, obstacles to a deal remain large. Chief among these is Chinese resistance to U.S. demands for a codified enforcement mechanism and other legal changes. Both sides now appear to have hardened their positions ahead of the next round of negotiations set to occur in Beijing, which U.S. Secretary of Treasury Steven Mnuchin has confirmed will take place soon.

Even before the trade war, the Chinese economy was slowing.

The Office of the U.S. Trade Representative proceeded May 13 with a commenting process that is necessary to pave the way for tariffs on an additional $300 billion in Chinese goods in June. This means the next five to six weeks will be a critical window if the sides are to salvage a deal before Washington can follow through on its threats to impose additional tariffs. Beijing, however, has shown no sign it is willing to bend on U.S. demands for legal changes. In fact, it has recently sought to whip up nationalism via state media, taking a harder line on U.S. demands and emphasizing the stability of China's economy. According to the Nikkei Asia Review, Beijing has now rejected 30 percent of the most recent draft agreement with Washington.

Even so, the window for talks remains open. The Chinese and U.S. leaders are still expected to meet during the upcoming G-20 meetings on June 28-29 in Japan. But if no deal is reached and the additional tariffs go into effect, a trade agreement between the two powers will become an even more distant prospect.
Background and Outlook

Even before the trade war, the Chinese economy was slowing. Tariffs are now expected to drag down gross domestic product by another 0.3 to 0.6 percentage points as the trade war escalates. The additional tariffs are set to hit coastal China's export sector further, the majority of which is part of the private sector and is already struggling with thin margins and limited access to financing.

Worries over the worsening economy and trade war have renewed officials' focus on unemployment. On May 15, Chinese Prime Minister Li Keqiang called on the provinces to create more jobs and to prevent the social instability that could follow increased unemployment among migrant workers. Since early this year, Chinese authorities have also engaged in several rounds of rate cuts, credit stimulus and tax relief to support the economy. As the weakness and trade war persist, riskier credit stimulus packages might be required to keep the already debt-laden economy afloat.

Beijing's tougher line on trade suggests it thinks it can absorb the economic pain. It also suggests it anticipates the United States might back down as U.S. President Donald Trump heads toward his 2020 electoral campaign while contending with multiple trade negotiations, such as talks with the European Union, a crisis in Venezuela and escalating tensions in the Persian Gulf. Further economic pain could, however, force Beijing to recalculate.

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Re: US-China (& Japan, South China Sea-- Vietnam, Philippines, etc)
« Reply #778 on: May 15, 2019, 03:36:46 PM »
next the Chinese Communists trying to play the race card

Can anyone image the leader of one billion people using our politically correct media and Dem party against Trump with the *race card*
they way the media and the Dems do to us here?

I think Xi is trying it.

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Re: GPF: Digging in for a longer trade war
« Reply #779 on: May 16, 2019, 08:53:59 AM »
Excerpted from one of five possible reasons trade talks stalled:

"it would mean Xi is a prisoner to unyielding political forces in China even more than previously thought.

In general, it’s not uncommon for a government to say something like, “Hey, we’d be happy to concede on this or that issue. But the legislature would never sign off.” This is an obvious constraint on negotiators but since it also puts the onus on the other side to either temper their demands or walk away, it’s also a potential source of leverage. China, with its rubber-stamp legislature, is somewhat different, of course, but the government still has to manage public resistance. Since taking power, Xi has been constantly griping about how “entrenched interests” impede much-needed reforms."


   - It's a little bit funny to realize dictators and totalitarians have political pressure too.  Xi is powerful but China is ruled by a politburo / committee.  His power has to do with what is best for the ruling 'party', not necessarily what is best for China, the Chinese economy or the Chinese people.  If not for that, this would be done. 
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Add ccp's comments on Chuck Schumer here and extrapolate that to all the Dem candidates and the eventual nominee.  Democrats in general (exception: Biden?) are more anti-China than Republicans, exception: Trump.  Trump wins only if the country is behind him because otherwise China sees the splits and exploits them and waits him out.

Schumer's goal is to win control of the US Senate for the Democrats, not to govern NY or just placate the energetic Left.  Winning the Senate requires Dems to hold seats in red states.
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Stratfor:  "Even before the trade war, the Chinese economy was slowing."

https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3010245/china-economy-slows-sharply-april-even-higher-us-trade
China's economy slows sharply in April, even before new US tariffs take effect
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So which is it Xi, appease your hardliners or act in the best interest of your economy and your citizens? 

Besides force and threat of force, two things keep the ruling party in power,  security and people satisfied with economic growth and opportunities.

The longer this goes on, the more that other sources in other countries and the US replace those in China and the more some of those new sources will be permanent.

Ego and saving face are now greater than economic consideration.  How do we win our demands AND let Xi save face?  I don't know how to solve that one.

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« Reply #780 on: May 16, 2019, 04:35:05 PM »
"How do we win our demands AND let Xi save face?  I don't know how to solve that one."

How about the way the mafia does it (at least in the movies):

nothing personal Xi .
it's just business

now stop stealing our stuff!
and remove all of your tariffs and start buying more of our goods

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« Reply #781 on: May 16, 2019, 05:50:57 PM »
Although the President often speaks  as if the Balance of Trade is THE issue, it is not.  There is intellectual property theft, industrial espionage, aiding and abetting the Norks,  and fascist military strategy.



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Stratfor: Trump's biggest Salvo Yet in the Tech Cold War
« Reply #784 on: May 17, 2019, 08:27:15 AM »
New Huawei Restrictions Turn Up the Heat on the U.S-China Tech Cold War
By Matthew Bey
Senior Global Analyst, Stratfor

Highlights

    U.S. President Donald Trump's recent executive order prevents U.S. 5G infrastructure from using Huawei equipment and also may be applied to many other types of tech equipment, given its expansive language.
    Though it is receiving less press coverage than the executive order, the U.S. Commerce Department's move to add Huawei to its Entity List, which requires U.S. exporters to obtain approval before selling to companies on it, is actually the largest salvo yet against China's tech sector.
    The Commerce Department's designation targets suppliers and could fragment important tech supply chains.
    Taken together, the two U.S. decisions serve as a reminder that the U.S.-China tech war will endure far beyond the trade war and the Trump administration.

In its tech war with China, the United States has launched two major attacks aimed at China and its most globally competitive tech company, Huawei Technologies. First, on May 15 U.S. President Donald Trump signed an executive order giving the U.S. Commerce Department the authority to block certain transactions involving information and communications technologies developed, designed or manufactured by companies subject to the jurisdiction of a foreign adversary. While the order did not explicitly mention China and Huawei, its intention is clear: to pave the way for the United States to block Huawei from its 5G networks and other critical infrastructure. One the same day, the U.S. Commerce Department announced that it was adding Huawei and 70 of its affiliates to its Entity List, meaning any U.S. company that wants to export technology, services or products to Huawei will need a special license from the Commerce Department to do so.

Both decisions will damage Huawei and China's economy — especially if the United States chooses to enforce them strictly. But even though the executive order is gaining most of the media attention, the bigger danger to Huawei and China's tech sector at large is the Commerce Department designation, which could drive many U.S. suppliers — on which Huawei and other tech companies are particularly reliant — to stop working with China to avoid navigating complicated regulations. And these U.S. attempts to disrupt supply chains will fuel China's nationalist drive to develop more domestic tech equipment, further broadening the scope of the ongoing U.S.-China tech war.

The Big Picture

The United States and China are in the middle of a tech Cold War, and Huawei is a company that sits in the center of the United States' crosshairs. As perhaps China's largest, most innovative and globally competitive tech firm, it has come to symbolize China's tech rise.

An Expansive Executive Order

Trump's executive order is extremely broad. It allows the Commerce Department to block transactions with Chinese companies — including Huawei — that could pose the risk of sabotage to U.S. telecommunications infrastructure, as well as those that could pose "an unacceptable risk to the national security of the United States or the security and safety of United States persons" or "an undue risk of catastrophic effects on the security [...] critical infrastructure or the digital economy of the United States." The expansive nature is even similar to China's own powerful cybersecurity law, which the United States has accused of being vague and far-reaching.

The breadth of Trump's order means it could be used to block almost any equipment produced by a Chinese entity that is used in U.S. information technology infrastructure — not just 5G networks. It will be critical to watch the Commerce Department's interpretations of the executive order as it begins issuing guidelines and regulations, which technically could end up covering tech equipment as small as home routers and switches. The Commerce Department has a 150-day deadline to issue those guidelines, meaning they will come between now and Oct. 12.

A Mess for Huawei and Its Suppliers

The executive order puts even stricter limits on Huawei's already limited ability to sell to the United States, but since the tech company's U.S. sales are a relatively small portion of its overall profit, that move actually presents much fewer complications for the company than the decision to place Huawei on the Commerce Department's Entity List. The latter action hits Huawei's relationship with the United States where it will hurt the most: the tech company's suppliers. Huawei is one of the world's most competitive technology companies when it comes to building 5G network gear, building smartphones and even designing certain chips — but it depends heavily on the tech sector's global supply chains, which invariably involve a lot of U.S. equipment, technology and knowledge. In fact, when Huawei released a list of its 92 top suppliers in November 2018, 33 of those suppliers were American companies.

A list of Huawei's key suppliers of smartphone and computer parts.

The many possible results of the United States placing Huawei on the Entity List are creating uncertainty for companies involved in the tech sector. The move may be one more step toward an extreme scenario in which it tries to block Huawei from accessing U.S. technology and components in a wide range of products. Washington did something similar in 2018, when the Commerce Department temporarily denied export privileges to another Chinese technology company, ZTE. However, the Commerce Department can choose to be flexible in allowing deals to go through to minimize the risk of Chinese retaliation and subsequent damage to U.S. companies operating in China, though it will not be an easy process. Finally, in conjunction with one of these outcomes, the Commerce Department could also try to exert leverage on Huawei in its ongoing investigations and criminal cases involving potential violations of U.S. sanctions, which is one of the legal justifications for placing Huawei on the Entity List.

Nevertheless, even if the Commerce Department is flexible in its permissions, the new designation will be a headache for suppliers. Large U.S. companies, such as Qualcomm, employ armies of lawyers to navigate complicated U.S. export control laws, but small- and medium-sized enterprises in the United States may choose not to work with Huawei to avoid the complications. Moreover, the export controls include deemed exports, which limits and/or prohibits any collaboration between Huawei and U.S. entities, such as its Silicon Valley research and development subsidiary FutureWei — even for research purposes. Already, U.S. universities have begun downsizing collaboration projects with Huawei. Beyond the United States, foreign companies are likely to find themselves caught in between the United States and Huawei and possibly forced not to sell products containing American-made technology or components to Huawei.

China's Complicated Options for Responding

The moves against Huawei and China's tech sector come during a strenuous period in U.S.-China trade talks. Washington has given Beijing a four-week notice to reach a deal before the United States places additional tariffs on effectively all remaining imports from China. This puts Beijing in a complicated spot. Typically, China responds to foreign actions against its companies by selectively upping pressure on the respective country's China-residing companies and citizens. For example, China has responded strongly to Canada's role in detaining Huawei's chief financial officer at the behest of the United States by increasing arrests of Canadian citizens and employing de facto import bans on certain goods.

Up to this point, China has hoped to succeed in making a deal on trade and has thus avoided doing anything to blow up the process. But that restraint is unlikely to last forever.

But when it comes to handling the United States' treatment of Huawei and other tech companies during its trade war with the United States, Beijing has refrained from tit-for-tat moves to cut American companies out of the Chinese market. Up to this point, China has hoped to succeed in making a deal on trade and has thus avoided doing anything to blow up the process. But that restraint is unlikely to last forever. If the U.S.-China trade negotiations don't result in a deal and all of China's goods are subject to additional U.S. tariffs, Beijing may have no choice but to increase pressure on the United States and respond in kind. Indeed, in recent weeks China's state media has ramped up nationalist sentiment, raising the possibility that Beijing may be closer to acting against U.S. assets or citizens in China.

The Big Question: To What End?

Ultimately, however, even if the United States and China do resolve their trade war, the battle for economic and tech supremacy between the world's two largest economies will drag on.

In the global tech world, the looming question is just how far the United States (and China) will go to try to separate a deeply globalized sector that boasts long, complicated supply chains. The United States will certainly consider issuing new regulations that aim to limit the amount of sensitive U.S. technology that makes its way to China and helps Chinese companies — indeed, it's still rolling out new export control rules on emerging technologies — but Washington cannot unravel the dense network of the global tech sector on its own.

A U.S. campaign to try to cut off China's access to U.S. technology and products will only force China to increase its own nationalist stance regarding technology development. It will drive Beijing to ramp up support for companies in the Chinese tech sector and to improve the country's semiconductor production capabilities through initiatives like the Made in China 2025 plan, which the United States wants China to stop as a part of its trade war. China will also try to ensure that Chinese-led and -developed standards in the tech sector are adopted worldwide so that Chinese companies can sell their products in foreign markets without fear of the United States claiming patent infringement.

Many tech suppliers and global economies consider China the most important future growth market for technology since the developed world is essentially saturated. Suppliers in Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Vietnam and the rest of the world thus have a large economic incentive to not completely cut off economic relationships with China and its tech sector. Instead of cutting off ties to China, they will need to balance between China and the United States. Because of this, foreign companies and countries will find themselves needing to navigate a growing labyrinth of overlapping and contradictory export control rules and regulations. These rules and regulations, as well as the physical supply chains that bind them together, will be difficult to unravel, having been built up over years of globalization. But now the United States is trying to fragment globalization and it may start with Huawei.

Matthew Bey is an energy and technology analyst for Stratfor, where he monitors a variety of global issues and trends. In particular, he focuses on energy and political developments in OPEC member states and the consequences of such developments on oil producers and the international oil market. Mr. Bey's work includes studies on the global impact of rising U.S. energy production, the recent fall in oil prices, Russia's political influence on Europe through energy, and long-term trends in energy and manufacturing.

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Beijing appeals to nationalism
« Reply #785 on: May 17, 2019, 05:16:20 PM »
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China, U.S.: With the Trade War Raging, Beijing Makes a Risky Appeal to Nationalism
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The intensified U.S. economic offensive against China is weighing heavily on China's leadership. Instead of offering concessions, Beijing is hardening its position and stoking nationalism. Though the strategy will help Beijing build public support in the short term, it could backfire in the longer term.

What Happened

With Washington's targeting of Huawei raising tensions to new heights, the U.S.-China trade conflict shows no signs of abating. Now, the Chinese government has hardened its position on trade and is seeking to fan the flames of nationalist sentiment.

Five days after Washington increased tariffs on $200 billion of Chinese goods, state broadcaster CCTV on May 13 used its most popular news program to issue a strongly worded statement exuding confidence in China's ability to stand up to the United States. The tone stood in marked contrast to Beijing's relatively muted attitude in the preceding months as trade talks dragged on.

The statement coincided with Beijing's announcement of retaliatory tariffs and a high-level Politburo meeting, suggesting a degree of consensus among China's top leadership. In the following days, a series of commentaries and editorials from the state media and affiliated social media accounts continued to whip up nationalist sentiment in the face of U.S. pressure.

Why It Matters

The shift toward a nationalist tone coincides with Beijing's hardened trade negotiating position, which includes its rejection of U.S. demands for changes to Chinese law. Now, China is sticking to its line that any deal must involve the removal of all tariffs, respect China's dignity and steer clear of expecting the country to purchase an unreasonable amount of U.S. goods. If Washington does not rethink its demands and the sides fail to reach a deal within the United States' four-week deadline, China is implying that it is willing to accept an escalation of the trade war. These developments, accordingly, mean Chinese-U.S. trade tensions are less likely to diminish any time soon.

If Beijing sees little prospect of a U.S. de-escalation, it could impose restrictions on U.S. businesses and individuals in China and even refuse to sell strategic commodities like rare-earth elements to Americans.

Beyond select regulatory obstacles, Beijing has yet to erect major official obstacles against U.S. businesses and individuals. This stands in contrast to Beijing's tougher approach to Canada, whose citizens and exports it has targeted. If Beijing sees little prospect of a U.S. de-escalation, it might impose restrictions on U.S. businesses and individuals in China and even refuse to sell strategic commodities like rare-earth elements to Americans. Increased nationalism could also lead to public boycotts, protests or even attacks on U.S. assets and individuals beyond the state's control.

An intensified conflict over trade and nationalism that results in harm to U.S. interests will make China less appealing to foreign investors, something Beijing can ill afford at a time when its economy is already slowing. Moreover, previous protests have shown that promoting nationalism can boomerang on the Chinese state and lead to unwanted social disruptions.

Background

Given widespread and powerful resentment over China's "Century of Humiliation," nationalism can always be a powerful instrument to forge national cohesion during challenging times, allowing the Communist Party to muster popular support. Chinese President Xi Jinping has harnessed this force to manage the country's socio-economic transition. But despite increasing tensions with the United States since early 2018, Beijing had until now refrained from deliberate appeals to nationalism in the trade war, leaving more space for de-escalation and continued trade negotiations.



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George Friedman: China and we do not understand each other
« Reply #788 on: May 23, 2019, 04:49:56 AM »
May 23, 2019
By George Friedman

Visiting China


I can’t explain China. I don’t know it well enough, and sometimes it seems to me that the Chinese are experts on their country, but they’re experts that don’t agree. Still, China is an American adversary, and an adversarial relationship between these two countries is dangerous even if it doesn’t lead to war. Therefore, I have to try to understand China.

I have been to Shanghai and Beijing, which I suspect are as representative of China as New York City and Washington are of the United States. In that sense, I have not been to China. Still, these are the country’s political and economic centers, so I will begin there.

I traveled to Beijing last fall as the guest of a bank that wanted me to speak to Chinese investors. It was at a time when the economic confrontation between the U.S. and China was just heating up, and the meetings were tense. Everything I said was met with suspicion. The local people I met with were filled with bravado, of how they would retaliate against the U.S. and the price they would exact. A quiet drink with one or two of them later in the evening brought out another dimension, as such late-night encounters often do. The investors were afraid of the United States and wanted to send back a message that while the U.S. was overreacting, there was nothing that couldn’t be managed. The Chinese simply wanted to know what the Americans wanted.

These were important men. They were well connected to Chinese political power; they wouldn’t be handling the funds they were handling without political blessing. They had been to many countries, including the United States. One of them, who led a particularly large fund, had been confrontational in public but admitted in private that he didn’t understand the Americans – not the government, not President Donald Trump, and not what he took to be the animosity of the American public. In his view, Trump was the prisoner of massive social forces. (In some sense, this was the old Marxist in him searching for the social basis of things.) But he couldn’t understand how American society had turned on a country that had done it no harm.

There was something profoundly strange in his understanding of the U.S. On the one hand, he felt that Trump was a prisoner of social forces. On the other hand, he asked that I deliver him a message. Why deliver a message to a trapped man? The confusion was compounded by the idea that I could deliver a message to any senior official. I tried to explain that I was not connected with the government and that officials would not give me the time of day, assuming they had any idea who I was. This was also incomprehensible to him. How could I be in Beijing, speaking of matters as sensitive as those I addressed, and not be authorized by the government? The more I protested, the more he assured me that he understood. This is a dance I have done in many countries whose citizens cannot conceive of a private citizen knowing things and not being answerable to the government. (The assumption is that I am CIA, and the more I protest that I am not, the more I get a wink and knowing look.) But this man had been to and done business with the United States. How could he not tell that I was merely watching from the bleachers and putting forth my best analysis of the situation?

The truth is that while it can be said that Americans don’t understand China, even the most sophisticated Chinese simply don’t know how to read the United States. Yes, Trump was elected by social forces, and yes, he is president. But he has to deal with Congress and the courts. His hands are free and tied in a very American way. As for me, the U.S. is filled with people who go to China and act as if they know something. Washington is a city filled with people who would claim to know important people, but mostly they don’t.

Years ago, well before today’s mutual fear, I met a Chinese businessman who wanted to sell some goods to the Department of Defense. He wanted to meet with a senior government official, at least the secretary of defense. He was told that he needed to meet with a lieutenant colonel, the project manager, based in Colorado – that was the key to the sale, not the secretary of defense. The businessman recounted this story to me with anger, because he had clearly been rebuffed without courtesy. All I could do was tell him that he better hurry before the lieutenant colonel was rotated to a new job, and his job left open for six months.

While I was in Beijing, I was given a guide who would take me around the city. One of the places she took me was a small traditional neighborhood in the midst of Beijing called a hutong. It is not a museum but a small village with people living there, shopping there and raising families there. The cottages, if they can be called that, were small and my guide told me that she had lived in one of them when she first came to Beijing. She had a room with access to a shared stove for cooking in a hallway but no plumbing. When she wanted to take a shower or use a toilet, she would have to walk down the street to a communal bathroom. She told me many people wanted to live in this neighborhood but that rooms are very expensive.


 

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Earlier that day, I had had lunch with an Australian friend in a shopping center, which would be quite upscale for the United States – all the international brands were there and then some. The mall was crowded with mostly younger shoppers. I was told that there were many such malls in Beijing. In the hutong, my guide told me that there were many such villages in Beijing. I find it incomprehensible that the capital of the second-largest economy in the world would have malls that would make Beverly Hills blush, intermingled with peasant villages from a bygone era. My guide could not understand my bewilderment.

This is the point where I am supposed to say that we should all work toward better understanding each other. If we have time, we should. But the fact is that we will not, on the whole, understand each other. I have met many U.S expats who had spent years in China and confessed that while they understood China better than I did, they still had large blank spots in their knowledge. Same for the Chinese. Each of us reasons through the prism of our own societies looking for analogs from our own countries. That includes those who admire the other country as much as those who fear and distrust it. The two countries have different geographies, histories and fears rising from different places.

It is also not necessary for us to understand each other, which is just as well since we won’t. What is necessary, however, is that the citizens of each understand their own country and its needs. I couldn’t explain to the Chinese fund manager how the U.S. works, but I could tell him what it wants from China: access to the Chinese markets on the same terms as we give them, and recognition that the Pacific is under American control. It is most important that we understand what we need and leave it to the Chinese to understand what they need, and the system will take care of itself, mostly peacefully and sometimes violently. But the idea that if we understood each other better we could work things out misses two points. First, that we won’t understand each other. And second, that the vast internal pressures in each country will determine what each will do – not a think tank, not the close friends of presidents. But if we know what we want, then at least we can understand what is going on.


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Rare Earth metal sources
« Reply #790 on: May 29, 2019, 06:57:17 AM »
China only controls ~ 36 % of world supply

probably less once we start making more effort to find them:

https://geology.com/articles/rare-earth-elements/

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Re: Rare Earth metal sources
« Reply #791 on: May 29, 2019, 09:21:15 AM »
China only controls ~ 36 % of world supply

probably less once we start making more effort to find them:

https://geology.com/articles/rare-earth-elements/

That seems far more credible than larger proportions quoted earlier.

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Re: Rare Earth metal sources
« Reply #792 on: May 29, 2019, 11:43:04 AM »
China only controls ~ 36 % of world supply

probably less once we start making more effort to find them:

https://geology.com/articles/rare-earth-elements/

That seems far more credible than larger proportions quoted earlier.

Rare earths aren’t that rare. China is willing to refine them cheaply with little to no environmental concerns. Plenty of other countries can fill the need. Even the People’s Republic of Kalifornia.

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Re: US-China (& Japan, South China Sea-- Vietnam, Philippines, etc)
« Reply #793 on: May 29, 2019, 12:24:16 PM »
Some years back I invested short term in some REE stocks and -- rare event-- did extremely well in very short order.  I got out as I became concerned about the Chinese variable. 

Working from memory, the US has plenty of REE but has shut down our mines because of genuine, serious environmental issues.

The Chinese tried (succeeded?  Don't remember) intimidating the Japanese in a South China Sea squabble by threatening Japanese access to Chinese REE, so this is not the first time that this has come up.



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Re: US-China (& Japan, South China Sea-- Vietnam, Philippines, etc)
« Reply #794 on: May 29, 2019, 01:24:01 PM »
This is a desperation move by China. They are losing and they know it.


Some years back I invested short term in some REE stocks and -- rare event-- did extremely well in very short order.  I got out as I became concerned about the Chinese variable. 

Working from memory, the US has plenty of REE but has shut down our mines because of genuine, serious environmental issues.

The Chinese tried (succeeded?  Don't remember) intimidating the Japanese in a South China Sea squabble by threatening Japanese access to Chinese REE, so this is not the first time that this has come up.

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Re: Rare Earth metal sources
« Reply #795 on: May 29, 2019, 07:18:34 PM »
China only controls ~ 36 % of world supply

probably less once we start making more effort to find them:

https://geology.com/articles/rare-earth-elements/

That seems far more credible than larger proportions quoted earlier.

Rare earths aren’t that rare. China is willing to refine them cheaply with little to no environmental concerns. Plenty of other countries can fill the need. Even the People’s Republic of Kalifornia.

http://fortune.com/2019/05/29/china-rare-earth-metals-trade-war/

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« Reply #796 on: May 30, 2019, 08:47:43 AM »


The Big Picture
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China has elevated rhetoric threatening to restrict exports of rare earth elements to the United States, implying through state media mouthpieces that a ban of the materials vital to high-tech manufacturing could be imminent. As U.S.-Chinese trade negotiations continue to spiral downward, Beijing is looking to hit back against the United States in the ongoing trade war. With major shifts on the horizon in the global rare earth elements market, China may be seeking to use its current control of this strategic resource as a retaliatory tool before that leverage begins to wane.
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China in TransitionSupply Chains

What Happened

Chinese rhetoric surrounding its willingness to impose restrictions on rare earth exports has escalated. Two different state-controlled entities have strongly hinted that China is prepared to use its near-monopoly in the rare earths market to hit back against the United States in the ongoing trade dispute. The People’s Daily, a state-run publication, published a commentary entitled "United States, Don’t Underestimate China’s Ability to Strike Back." The strongly worded missive echoed previous warnings outlining how rare earths could be used as a "counter weapon" to respond to U.S. tariffs and ongoing demands in trade negotiations. At the same time, China’s National Development and Research Commission, the country’s top economic planning agency, emphasized the need for China to prioritize domestic needs over the export market in the face of rising domestic demand for rare earths.

Two weeks earlier, Chinese President Xi Jinping and Vice Premier Liu He paid a highly publicized visit to a major rare earths production facility in Jiangxi province that processes the elements for use in defense and avionic systems, sending a strong signal that China was considering using its dominant position in the rare earths sector to retaliate against the United States.

Supply Threat and Potential Alternatives

Because of China’s near-monopoly on rare earths processing, any decision by Beijing to ban their export would undoubtedly produce short-term supply disruptions in the numerous high-tech sectors that use them — telecommunications, electric vehicles, renewables and defense, to name a few — although estimates vary about how long that disruption would last. The U.S. government keeps stockpiles of some rare earths, though much of that supply is not fit for final use, and China possesses nearly all global processing capacity. Still, some experts believe that the defense sector, at least, would be able to muddle through in the short term by tapping a combination of public and private stocks. However, timelines are difficult to pinpoint as even the government reportedly has difficulty tracking rare earth inputs throughout the supply chain.
 
As has often been noted, supplies of the 17 rare earth elements, comprising the lanthanide metals plus scandium and yttrium, are relatively abundant. The eventual diversification of rare earth supplies away from China, a process that is proceeding slowly, is inevitable, especially as global demand grows. Technological advancements are likely to result in a diversification of rare earth supplies away from China as new projects become more economically feasible due to surging demand. Around a decade ago, the market failed to support some alternative supplies, while some plans to develop further alternatives fell by the wayside. And although market realities are different this time, it would still take months to restart even an existing mine, while building a new processing facility would take years. In all, replacing the supply China currently provides, by conservative estimates, would take more than a decade.

Though the trend is toward a more globally diverse market — and there are even proposals for a new processing facility in the United States — alternatives to Chinese processing capacity are, for now, mostly confined to an operation in Malaysia that faces an upcoming licensing issue that could disrupt operations. Should the restrictions take effect, China’s own domestic sector may also come into play. As China continues to consolidate its rare earths sector and cracks down on illegal mining at home, those miners will continue to look for alternative markets. Earlier this month, China banned imports of rare earths from Myanmar — which accounted for roughly half of China’s feedstock of medium and high rare earth elements in 2018 — in an effort to thwart smuggling. Myanmar producers, accordingly, will now be looking for alternative markets as well.

In considering a ban, Beijing would be trading the long-term consequences of accelerating the decline of its near-monopoly on the rare earths market for traction in the trade war.

Inflaming the Trade War

Instead of enticing Washington to return to the negotiation table, potential Chinese restrictions on rare earths would further fan the flames of its trade war with the United States. Until now, China has for the most part refrained from seriously challenging the United States beyond tit-for-tat tariffs and limited regulatory restrictions as it tries to keep the door open for further trade talks. But as Beijing perceives progress in the talks to be less likely, it could become more willing to inflict serious economic pain on the United States. The chances that China would employ the rare earths option will peak if the White Houses follows through with additional bans targeting Chinese tech companies or adds even more tariffs.

In considering the ban, Beijing would be trading the long-term consequences of accelerating the decline of its near-monopoly on the rare earths market for traction in the trade war. The advantage gained in showing a strong intent and a willingness to continue down an aggressive path could leave the United States unsure whether additional harmful restrictions, like restrictions on major U.S. tech firms, could be in the works. The costs of a rare earths ban would be high as it would damage China's long-term strategy of controlling or dominating all aspects of the electric vehicle supply chain. At the same time, it would also incite an international backlash through World Trade Organization measures or possibly push the European Union to take the United States' side in trade talks.

But for Beijing, that would be an acceptable alternative to riskier options for retaliation, including dumping its extensive U.S. Treasury bond holdings or restricting U.S. business operations inside China. Those moves could cause significant market volatility and shake business confidence, undermining its ability to withstand the trade war. Stronger posturing and potential rare earths restrictions could be a potential avenue to extract a trade deal more beneficial to Beijing, one that does not force reform in key strategic sectors. Meanwhile, as China uses nationalist narratives to prepare the public for a further intensification of the trade war, it opens the door for consumer boycotts of American goods, protests or even attacks on U.S. assets and individuals.

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Re: China Mfg contracts
« Reply #798 on: May 30, 2019, 08:56:02 PM »
There goes the double digit growth.
https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3012538/china-manufacturing-index-crashes-negative-territory-may

The PLA may be too busy machinegunning mobs of Chinese citizens, and as a result, cut back on threatening other nations in asia.

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Tiananmen Square anniversay
« Reply #799 on: May 31, 2019, 07:05:32 AM »
"The PLA may be too busy machinegunning mobs of Chinese citizens, and as a result, cut back on threatening other nations in Asia."
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30 year anniversary of the Tiananmen Square massacre coming up June 3-4.
For 30 years I've been wrong predicting the Great Fall of the regime of China.
I wonder how the regime will celebrate the anniversary.  Maybe just have a few Central Committee laughs and toasts in private?  Here's to another 30 years of oppression...



https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/31/tiananmen-square-protests-crackdown-intensifies-as-30th-anniversary-nears

"On June 3-4, the People’s Liberation Army opened fire point-blank on unarmed civilians around the square."
"In a diplomatic cable dated June 5, 1989 -- and declassified in 2017 -- the then-British ambassador to China estimated at least 10,000 were killed."
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-05-29/how-the-tiananmen-square-protests-shaped-modern-china-quicktake