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Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #700 on: June 12, 2020, 01:20:13 PM »
PP your benefit to us conservatives is HUGE

as for whether Chauvin knew Floyd  etc.  I do not follow you and CD?

what exactly is the difference if they knew each other or not?

we can all plainly see he essentially choked the guy to death .

even after he was calling out for his mother and not breathing moving etc.

are we trying to say he is not guilty?



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Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #701 on: June 12, 2020, 02:50:17 PM »
No, of course not.

What I take from it is that the kill may have been personal and not racial.


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Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #702 on: June 12, 2020, 05:05:55 PM »
My point is that if Floyd was suffering from excited delirium, then he would have more than likely died anyway. Not excusing the cop, but the outcome might have been the same either way.

Pulling the weapon might be another indication of excited delirium. Or that Floyd was resisting arrest because he knew if arrested again for the counterfeit bill and with drugs in his system, he was going away for a lot longer that 5 years.
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could add a few things to Newt's what if
« Reply #704 on: June 14, 2020, 02:09:08 PM »
".Newt: Biden-Schumer-Pelosi the first year"

Don't forget we will get.a carbon tax

the military will decline again

the immigrant flood will double

moves towards "free" college,  "free" health care.

 

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Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #706 on: June 26, 2020, 05:19:29 AM »


The Trump Referendum
He still has no second term message beyond his own grievances.
By The Editorial Board
June 25, 2020 7:28 pm ET

President Trump may soon need a new nickname for “Sleepy Joe” Biden. How does President-elect sound? On present trend that’s exactly what Mr. Biden will be on Nov. 4, as Mr. Trump heads for what could be an historic repudiation that would take the Republican Senate down with him.

Mr. Trump refuses to acknowledge what every poll now says is true: His approval rating has fallen to the 40% or below that is George H.W. Bush and Jimmy Carter territory. They’re the last two Presidents to be denied a second term. This isn’t 2017 when Mr. Trump reached similar depths after failing to repeal ObamaCare while blaming Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan. He regained support with tax reform and a buoyant economy that really was lifting all incomes.

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Now the election is four months away, voters know him very well, and Mr. Trump has reverted to his worst form. His record fighting the coronavirus is better than his critics claim after a bad start in late February and March. He mobilized federal resources to help hard-hit states, especially New York.


But he wasted his chance to show leadership by turning his daily pandemic pressers into brawls with the bear-baiting press and any politician who didn’t praise him to the skies. Lately he has all but given up even talking about the pandemic when he might offer realism and hope about the road ahead even as the country reopens. His default now is defensive self-congratulation.

The country also wants firm but empathetic leadership after the death of George Floyd, but Mr. Trump offers combative tweets that inflame. Not long ago Mr. Trump tweeted that a 75-year old man who was pushed by police in Buffalo might be an antifa activist. He offered no evidence.

Americans don’t like racial enmity and they want their President to reduce it. Mr. Trump has preached racial harmony on occasion, but he gives it all back with riffs that misjudge the national moment. His “law and order” message might resonate if disorder and rioting continue through the summer, but only if Mr. Trump is also talking about racial reconciliation and opportunity for all.

Mr. Trump has little time to recover. The President’s advisers say that he trailed Hillary Clinton by this much at this point in 2016, that they haven’t had a chance to define Mr. Biden, and that as the election nears voters will understand the binary choice. Perhaps. But in 2016 Mrs. Clinton was as unpopular as Mr. Trump, while Mr. Biden is not.

Mr. Biden hasn’t even had to campaign to take a large lead. He rarely leaves his Delaware basement, he dodges most issues, and his only real message is that he’s not Donald Trump. He says he’s a uniter, not a divider. He wants racial peace and moderate police reform. He favors protests but opposes riots and violence.

Some Democrats are literally advising Mr. Biden to barely campaign at all. Eliminate the risk of a mental stumble that will raise doubts about his declining capacity that was obvious in the primaries. Let Mr. Trump remind voters each day why they don’t want four more years of tumult and narcissism.

Mr. Trump’s base of 35% or so will never leave, but the swing voters who stood by him for three and half years has fallen away in the last two months. This includes suburban women, independents, and seniors who took a risk on him in 2016 as an outsider who would shake things up. Now millions of Americans are close to deciding that four more years are more risk than they can stand.

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As of now Mr. Trump has no second-term agenda, or even a message beyond four more years of himself. His recent events in Tulsa and Arizona were dominated by personal grievances. He resorted to his familiar themes from 2016 like reducing immigration and denouncing the press, but he offered nothing for those who aren’t already persuaded.

Mr. Trump’s advisers have an agenda that would speak to opportunity for Americans of all races—school choice for K-12, vocational education as an alternative to college, expanded health-care choice, building on the opportunity zones in tax reform, and more. The one issue on which voters now give him an edge over Mr. Biden is the economy. An agenda to revive the economy after the pandemic, and restore the gains for workers of his first three years, would appeal to millions.

Perhaps Mr. Trump lacks the self-awareness and discipline to make this case. He may be so thrown off by his falling polls that he simply can’t do it. If that’s true he should understand that he is headed for a defeat that will reward all of those who schemed against him in 2016. Worse, he will have let down the 63 million Americans who sent him to the White House by losing, of all people, to “Sleepy Joe.”

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Tucker: President Trump could lose
« Reply #707 on: June 26, 2020, 05:21:42 AM »

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Trump mini-town hall
« Reply #708 on: June 26, 2020, 05:35:45 AM »

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Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #709 on: June 26, 2020, 06:19:05 AM »
"Perhaps Mr. Trump lacks the self-awareness and discipline to make this case. [YA THINK?]  He may be so thrown off by his falling polls that he simply can’t do it. If that’s true he should understand that he is headed for a defeat that will reward all of those who schemed against him in 2016. Worse, he will have let down the 63 million Americans who sent him to the White House by losing, of all people, to “Sleepy Joe.”"

  I would at this point prefer someone else but there really is no one else.
  we are stuck ....  he can at least allow legislative rebups to distance away from him if this gives them a better chance to win - but he can't even
  do that he is so selfish.

very sadly the only one's at Trump's funeral some day will be part of  his family,
and VP Pence and his wife.

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2020 Presidential election, on this day four years ago
« Reply #710 on: June 26, 2020, 03:19:52 PM »
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/clinton-opens-12-point-lead-trump-thirds-biased/story

Pres. H.R. Clinton up 12 points on Trump, June 26, 2016.  Insurmountable.

Hat tip Glenn Reynolds.  Link taken down but headline is in the url.

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he refuses to fix this and THIS IS WHY HE is losing
« Reply #711 on: June 28, 2020, 05:36:31 PM »
it is the tweets stupid.

Every talk radio show everyone is saying the same thiing.

unfortunately

it is not that he makes willful decisions to tweet - and folks it ain't some grand strategy
it is part of his pathologic personality disorder

uncontrollable impulsiveness, inability to take responsibility for mistakes , when something goes wrong always blame someone one else,
self centered , braggart.  He brain if fucked up .  People like him are unable not unwilling to see it.  He can't .  These people are extremely resistant to most forms of psychiatry treatment and indeed would consider themselves the healthy ones and others the losers.

Everyone keeps calling in to the talk radio shows saying what he needs to do to win . And everyone states it is reach out to the middle and stop the childish behavior

We are in for a long 5 months of frustration folks till we lose in November - unless of course Biden is worse - our only hope.

https://apnews.com/7eea48b80f14474b7057967a9654c4f0

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Re: 2020 election
« Reply #712 on: June 29, 2020, 08:06:11 AM »

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Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #713 on: June 29, 2020, 01:16:50 PM »
MAGA—for All
Trump needs to give voters a reason to support him. He’s working on it.

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President Trump convened a roundtable last week in Dallas, which the media described as a talk on police and race relations. It was much more. Some Republicans are beginning to hope it was the basis of a compelling second-term agenda.

As national unrest continues, Democrats are intent on limiting this debate to law-enforcement brutality and “racism.” Mr. Trump’s Dallas event was an effort to broaden the discussion into one about “advancing the cause of justice and freedom.” Part of that, Mr. Trump said, was working together to “confront bigotry and prejudice.” As important, he added, is providing “opportunity” to every American.

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The president handed it over to Attorney General William Barr, who called education the “civil-rights issue of our time” and argued for school choice. Housing Secretary Ben Carson discussed efforts to use telemedicine to remedy health-care disparities. Scott Turner, executive director of the White House Opportunity and Revitalization Council, touted the success of “opportunity zones,” created in the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017, which have funneled tens of billions of dollars into distressed communities.

Mr. Trump campaigned in 2016 to work on behalf of “forgotten” Americans—whether they be in struggling blue-collar areas, inner-city minority communities, or rural towns. As fate would have it, both the coronavirus and George Floyd’s death have shined a spotlight on glaring disparities in the country. The white-collar elite work safely from home in shut-down cities, while hands-on workers and small-business owners become economic statistics. The focus on rare cases of police abuse has resurfaced the all-too-common reality of so many African-American communities—crime, high unemployment, poor health care, failing schools.

In those bleak headlines is an opening for Mr. Trump to embrace a second-term “opportunity” agenda, a promise that free-market policies won’t only revive the struggling economy but throw it open to those forgotten Americans. So far, Mr. Trump has seemed content to let the race with Joe Biden boil down to a debate over the past four years and whether the Democrat is too radical or too incompetent to be trusted. Those points will certainly energize the Republican base. But making inroads with independents, minority voters and suburban housewives will require something more concrete and aspirational. Why not an “American Dream” theme?

That’s the case many Republicans are making to the White House, even as they think about how to refine it. One benefit of such an agenda is that it doesn’t require the administration to try to package a theme around disparate or expensive proposals like infrastructure or tax credits. It gives the president something more to pitch than a return to lost prosperity. And it provides the Trump campaign with an opportunity to make inroads with minority voters—crucial in a close race.

The greatest merit of an opportunity agenda is that it rests on core conservative policies and principles. It’s about tailoring them—and ramping them up—to serve struggling communities. That’s the brilliance of opportunity zones, which South Carolina’s Sen. Tim Scott got included in the 2017 tax reform. He harnessed the power of smart tax relief and directed it at underserved, struggling communities. School choice is, likewise, about providing minority parents the opportunity to rescue their kids from crummy schools. Health-care choice is about giving poor Americans the opportunity to escape Medicaid. Deregulation is about providing more Americans the opportunity to engage in entrepreneurship.

Even better, the Trump administration already has the record, people and infrastructure to build on this theme. The common and absurd claim that Mr. Trump is “racist” has always been belied by the diversity of his administration and the programs it has pursued. Sentencing reform. An unprecedented focus on vocational education. Funding for historically black colleges. Tackling the opioid epidemic. Mr. Trump in 2018 set up the Opportunity and Revitalization Council, which Messrs. Turner and Carson oversee. In May the council put out a report brimming with case studies and best practices for spurring investment in economically distressed areas.

Promoters also note that an American Dream theme is optimistic and inclusive—a needed contrast to perpetual Democratic anger, partisan and racial animus, the fear and gloom of the virus. The administration aside, that kind of positive agenda could prove a lifeline for Senate Republicans who have been provided little that is forward-looking to campaign on, and who aren’t running against Mr. Biden.

But perhaps the best argument for this agenda is that Mr. Trump already believes in it. Advisers note that there’s a reason he talks so frequently about the historically low black and Hispanic unemployment rates; he’s genuinely proud of them. The 2016 slogan was “Make America Great Again.” It would be no lift for Mr. Trump to add a couple of words and sell what he has done, and what he could with four more years. “Make America Great Again—for All.”

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Biden v. Trump Black Vote, "We can see through that”
« Reply #714 on: July 01, 2020, 06:35:55 AM »
"I know they don’t get back to those record numbers from Obama,” Griffith said of Black voter turnout. “We look at Joe Biden and see more of the same. It’s about the era he came up. It’s about his identity—he’s a rich, old white man. What are his credentials to us, other than Obama picking him? It’s nice that he worked with Obama. But let’s keep it real: That was a political calculation. Obama thought he needed a white man to get elected, just like Biden thinks he needs a Black woman to get elected. We can see through that.”

These sentiments resurfaced in almost every conversation I had. First, that Biden choosing a woman of color might actually irritate, not appease, Black voters. Second, that the inferno of June would flicker by summer’s end and fade entirely by November. And third, that Biden does little to inspire a wary Black electorate that views him as the status quo personified.
   - Tim Alberta, Politico
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/06/24/letter-to-washington-grosse-pointe-woods-325641

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Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #715 on: July 01, 2020, 07:06:04 AM »
RCP today:
NBC Battleground States
Pennsylvania: Biden 50, Trump 44
Michigan: Biden 48, Trump 43
Wisconsin: Biden 51, Trump 43
North Carolina: Biden 51, Trump 44
Florida: Biden 50, Trump 45
Arizona: Biden 51, Trump 44
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Who does this "news" help?  Hurt?

Reminds of when the Vikings have a one touchdown lead and go into the "prevent" defense with way too much time left on the clock, against a great quarterback - and lose every time. In this case, these aren't even actual points on the board.  It's still pre-game.
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Steve Hayward on the state of the race:
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/06/the-state-of-the-race-4.php

One more data point:
July 1988:  Michael Dukakis led George H.W. Bush by 17 points.
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Re: OMG - next pre election get rich scheme - trash target Melania now
« Reply #719 on: July 07, 2020, 06:05:55 AM »
Here we go (again).

"After playing a vital role in plotting Trump’s inaugural festivities"

OMG, vital.

Is there still something we don't about the Trumps? Big book tour about their marital ups and downs?  I'm still waiting for the Bolton bombshell.
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Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #720 on: July 07, 2020, 06:30:57 AM »
".Is there still something we don't about the Trumps?"


no


agree with you Doug over the nonstop propaganda


but a sarcastic left winger would say we "still don't have his tax returns"

till someone leaks then to NYT.

 :roll: :wink:

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Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #721 on: July 07, 2020, 07:09:21 AM »
The IRS has his tax returns, all of them.  Nothing says Big Government Coercion like the IRS. If the Left doesn't trust them, neither do I, let's shut them down.   )

Romney released his, squeaky clean, still got heavily criticized. Stupid to walk back into that trap.

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« Reply #722 on: July 09, 2020, 11:32:58 PM »


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2020 Trump agenda
« Reply #724 on: July 10, 2020, 04:27:57 PM »
https://pjmedia.com/election/tyler-o-neil/2020/07/10/trump-lays-out-his-second-term-agenda-on-the-economy-the-wall-judges-and-school-choice-n629796

to me so far sounds exactly the same as 2016 - agree with Andrew McCarthy this along with the usual bluster is not what the undecideds are looking for .

no surprise
pray we keep the Senate

my vote is not enough.


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RCP poll
« Reply #726 on: July 16, 2020, 08:49:43 AM »
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html

although he has the better policies
he clearly has made the election about him - at least with swing voters

his lack of sensitivity about corona
not reopening the economy
certainly has to be a problem

not being touchy feely is not helpful in times of crises
IMHO

pray we keep the Senate

and at least a tiny portion of power in hands of conservatives

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Re: RCP poll
« Reply #727 on: July 16, 2020, 09:36:16 AM »
Those poll numbers are almost as bad as the poll numbers were when he was elected president!

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html

although he has the better policies
he clearly has made the election about him - at least with swing voters

his lack of sensitivity about corona
not reopening the economy
certainly has to be a problem

not being touchy feely is not helpful in times of crises
IMHO

pray we keep the Senate

and at least a tiny portion of power in hands of conservatives

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Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #728 on: July 16, 2020, 11:15:23 AM »
".Those poll numbers are almost as bad as the poll numbers were when he was elected president!"

your usually right and I usually agree with you

just not this time

though I wish it true.....

 barring unforeseen event(s) he is  going to lose
and I suspect it will be by good margin

he can hire new campaign advisors , but so what . Since when has he ever really listened to anyone else in his life?
it is him.


maybe blame a unified front of never trumpers and leftists media academics etc but he is incapable of reaching out to the middle voters
it would be admitting weakness, even that he is wrong about some things.  he won't / *can't* do it.

I am simply gearing up for the obvious

would rather be very pleasantly surprised then get hopes up for nothing just to have him continue to simply bash the nail harder and harder into the same knot, the same way  till it bends and breaks off which is what he does.

he is incapable of adjusting - it is as much style as substance

normal people can learn and at least partly adjust
his personality is just so twisted he can't.

That is why he is losing in MHO.


 


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Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #729 on: July 16, 2020, 11:19:00 AM »
At this point, I don't think it really matters. I expect we will all be hip deep in CW2 by the start of November anyway.


".Those poll numbers are almost as bad as the poll numbers were when he was elected president!"

your usually right and I usually agree with you

just not this time

though I wish it true.....

 barring unforeseen event(s) he is  going to lose
and I suspect it will be by good margin

he can hire new campaign advisors , but so what . Since when has he ever really listened to anyone else in his life?
it is him.


maybe blame a unified front of never trumpers and leftists media academics etc but he is incapable of reaching out to the middle voters
it would admitting weakness, even that he is wrong about some things.  he won't /can't do it.

I am simply gearing up for the obvious

would rather be very pleasantly surprised then get hopes up for nothing just to have him continue to simply bash the nail harder and harder into the knot in the would till it bends and fails .


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Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #731 on: July 16, 2020, 01:40:47 PM »
what planet is Dick on now? 

Wasn't he in Philadelphia last?

next week he will come out and tell us  Trump will win the black vote.

how about the female vote?


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Biden's VP
« Reply #732 on: July 22, 2020, 01:11:19 PM »
How to Pick a Running Mate
Biden will be 78 by January. He needs a capable, nationally recognized figure.
By William A. Galston
July 21, 2020 6:54 pm ET

Since clinching the Democratic nomination in April, Joe Biden and his senior advisers have run a mostly error-free campaign. They have unified their party without taking positions that would be deal-breakers for moderate and suburban voters, and Mr. Biden’s soothing demeanor has provided a notable contrast with President Trump’s hard-edged divisiveness.

But the task is about to get much harder. Between now and November, Mr. Biden faces four challenges: choosing the right running mate, delivering an effective acceptance speech at the Democratic convention, countering the Trump campaign’s assault on his record and character, and conducting himself with clarity and vigor during the presidential debates. If he passes these tests, the solid polling lead he now enjoys will almost certainly be translated into an electoral victory.

The first task must be completed within the next few weeks. History suggests some guidelines for selecting the vice-presidential candidate, as do the distinctive circumstances of this most unusual year.

A good vice-presidential choice doesn’t help the presidential candidate very much, but a bad choice can inflict serious damage. Studies have found only marginal effects of the vice-presidential candidate on the national popular vote share. The last one believed to have made the difference between victory and defeat in his home state was Lyndon Johnson in 1960—and political scientists have thrown this belief into doubt, too.

On the other hand, George McGovern was forced to replace his initial choice, Missouri Sen. Thomas Eagleton, a stumble from which his 1972 campaign never recovered. Despite an initial surge of interest and enthusiasm, John McCain’s selection of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin cut against his public reputation and weakened his candidacy as the seriousness of the 2008 financial crisis became apparent.

The lessons of the past are clear. Mr. Biden and his team should heed the Hippocratic oath: First, do no harm. There is no substitute for careful vetting and common sense.

If Mr. Biden wins the election, he’ll be 78 when he takes the oath of office in January—already the oldest president ever. There is a nonnegligible chance that his vice president would have to assume the presidency. The woman Mr. Biden chooses—yes, it will be a woman, as he has pledged—must be perceived as having the experience to step into his shoes at a moment’s notice. Those with limited records in national politics are unlikely to meet this standard of credibility, as are those who have never held elective office.

In addition, Mr. Biden should give priority to African-American candidates. He owes his nomination to unwavering African-American support at the campaign’s critical juncture. The disproportionate effects of the Covid-19 pandemic and the demonstrations sparked by the killing of George Floyd moved issues facing this community to the center of national politics.

The selection of an African-American running mate would guarantee the unity and enthusiasm of the Democratic Party, while the failure to do so would be dispiriting for a crucial portion of Mr. Biden’s coalition. Although religious conservatives were likely to support the eventual Republican nominee in 2016, Donald Trump’s selection of Mike Pence was a powerful signal that he didn’t take their support for granted. In this one respect, Mr. Biden should follow Mr. Trump’s example.

Mr. Biden is an effective congressional negotiator, but his presidential schedule, much of which would likely be dominated by foreign policy, would force him to delegate much of this job to others. A vice president who could work with Congress on Mr. Biden’s behalf as he did for President Obama would be a force multiplier. The vice president should also have the capacity to manage specific portfolios for the president, as Al Gore did with the National Partnership for Reinventing Government and Mr. Biden did with the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009.

An effective vice president should offer candid, confidential advice to the president and back his decisions unflinchingly once they are final. The vice president shouldn’t establish an alternative power center, as Dick Cheney did during George W. Bush’s first term.

Even if Mr. Biden turns out to be a one-term president, he should enjoy the assistance and support of his vice president for the full four years. He shouldn’t select a vice president who would begin her own presidential campaign the day after the 2022 midterm elections. He would be well advised to secure a specific pledge to this effect before her selection.

These considerations should lead Mr. Biden away from mayors and governors, and toward individuals with extensive records of leadership at the national level. Selecting a vice-presidential nominee widely regarded as unready to assume the presidency would be the Biden campaign’s first significant unforced error.

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Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #733 on: July 22, 2020, 02:25:27 PM »
William A. Galston. a Clinton Gore mobster:

"The vice president shouldn’t establish an alternative power center, as Dick Cheney did during George W. Bush’s first term."

yeah right .

"  These considerations should lead Mr. Biden away from mayors and governors, and toward individuals with extensive records of leadership at the national level. Selecting a vice-presidential nominee widely regarded as unready to assume the presidency would be the Biden campaign’s first significant unforced error."

Perhaps - gag - Hillary   :wink:

Who ever it is it won't be a unifier of the nation as Biden claims he wants to be - like all Dems - we want to be bipartisan and uniters - (as long we get as much liberal policies passed thru)

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Re: 2020 Presidential election, Biden VP
« Reply #734 on: July 23, 2020, 08:15:22 AM »
"  These considerations should lead Mr. Biden away from mayors and governors, and toward individuals with extensive records of leadership at the national level. Selecting a vice-presidential nominee widely regarded as unready to assume the presidency would be the Biden campaign’s first significant unforced error."

   Incredibly weak field, as we saw from the nominating process.  They act like there is some great pick out there if only they can discover her.  They start with nothing, that's how they got Biden.  Then they limit it to women.  Women of foreign policy experience on the Dem side?  Madeline Albright, not eligible, Hillary?  Ha!  Past her sell date, really this time.  Kamala?  First term Senator, no experience, failed her debut, never won a vote in a swing state.  Susan Rice?  Are you kidding?  Bring someone from behind the scenes forward, Valerie Jarret or Michelle O? 

Pick the Native American woman with bankruptcy experience?  (Sen. Warren)

They are asking one person to be more than one thing, shore up the radical left and the desperately needed black vote, and soothe the anxiety of moderate suburban women at the same time, code white.  Be ready to serve as President on Day One.  Can't be done.  Live by identity politics?  Die by identity politics.  Live by radical politics?  Die by radical politics.  Go Black?  Divide the party.  Go white?  Divide the party.  Go moderate?  Divide the party.  Go far Left?  Divide the party.  He would like to name a committee to the job, but when he narrows it to one, he spills paint all over his own blank canvas.

Right now Biden's poll numbers reflect the anyone but Trump sentiment.  By November the poll numbers will reflect whether or not voters want this man, these people, to run our country.
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romney's personal poll
« Reply #735 on: July 24, 2020, 08:16:26 AM »

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dick morris - "wear the damn mask"
« Reply #736 on: July 27, 2020, 05:07:57 PM »
https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/dickmorris-coronavirus-covid-trump/2020/07/27/id/979296/

of course he called the 2012 election for Romney so caveat emptor


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Re: 2020 Presidential election - Kamala auditions for VP spot
« Reply #738 on: July 28, 2020, 07:16:20 AM »
Yesterday I was going to note tht she's been quiet lately.  Then look who steps forward:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/07/27/covid-economy-trump-incompetent-weak-dishonest-kamala-harris-column/5514701002/

My trick, read liberals until their first lie, which is usually in the first sentence:

People are out of work, hungry, suffering and dying. [Not Trump's fault] The United States has more than 4.2 million confirmed cases of COVID-19 and nearly 147,000 people have been killed. [Oops, not true] The situation is dire and is getting worse..."  [Patently false.]
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"Over 17 million people are still out of work." [Democrats want that number to be higher.]

Perfectly predictable opposition drivel.  She's ready to run.  Already using Biden's writers.

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Or Susan Rice?
« Reply #739 on: July 28, 2020, 07:23:43 AM »
When you're tired of the dishonesty of Donald Trump, turn to Susan Rice?

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/27/susan-rice-top-biden-vice-president-383026

“There is a level and depth to her experience which would be a real asset.”
   - Valerie Jarrett on Rice.

That is, if she isn't indicted in the 'unmask' scandal.

"She’s one of the most effective bureaucratic operators I’ve ever seen in government.”

   - Said like it was a positive quality.

The book on a Biden-Rice partnership, how well do they learn from all their foreign policy errors?
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Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #742 on: July 28, 2020, 06:42:11 PM »
No idea.

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Re: 2020 Presidential election, Trump paints Biden soft on China
« Reply #744 on: July 31, 2020, 04:52:01 PM »
Biden paints Biden soft on China:
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/07/biden-got-it-wrong.php

Perhaps the most important issue in the election.

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Re: 2020 Presidential election, Val Demings VP?
« Reply #745 on: July 31, 2020, 05:28:18 PM »
Hugh Hewitt surprised me this morning by saying Val Demings is the VP nominee he fears most.  Some think she comes across as a regular person, she was a police officer who came up to the drivers' window a thousand times.

I thought she came across as unnecessarily partisan and abrasive in the impeachment hearings.  She has had very little time in Washington, almost none in national politics..  I wonder if she will be stumped on issues or if she is fully ready for this moment.  She has been in the House only since 2017. 

If she can deliver Florida, then she is worth it to Biden.  I can't imagine what Trump's path looks like without Florida.  Orlando is the center of the state.What state would Kamala deliver?  California?  Susan Rice?  Washington DC?  Tammy Baldwin?  She's not even black!

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Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #746 on: July 31, 2020, 05:51:40 PM »
".I thought she came across as unnecessarily partisan and abrasive in the impeachment hearings."

I can't think of a Democrat that does not .

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Re: 2020 Presidential election, Val Demings, VP pick
« Reply #747 on: August 01, 2020, 09:04:43 AM »
"I thought she came across as unnecessarily partisan and abrasive in the impeachment hearings."

I can't think of a Democrat that does not .

I know what you mean, but some are smooth and seem harmless and sound centrist and some come across as angry radicals.

My Congressman, west suburbs of Minneapolis, is a businessman. family man, neighbor, friend of a friend, cousin of Scott Johnson at Powerline, supposedly pro-business, pro-America etc.  The contrast might be Maxine Waters and the squad, want to  tell us how this country sucks and burn down the system.  They get elected in different districts but vote the same.

Val Demings sounded angry partisan radical in tone to me as I listening to impeachment hearings on radio.  I thought it was Maxine Waters, hadn't heard of her.  They used to call the middle of the electorate the soccer moms, those who determine the outcome, white suburban centrist women who just want what's best for their children and families.  Do they see her, listen to her, and say she's one of us?

There isn't a pick that's right for Joe in the party identity politics.  He needs one for each type, young liberal women, angry black women, white suburban woman, gays, Jews, Muslims.  And what about men?  He needs their vote too!

If you accept the premise that sexism and racism is the rule in America, the pool Joe has to choose from lacks the experience he needs from a nominee because they have been so unfairly excluded.  He already ruled out all men with national and foreign policy experience and all(?) women were denied these opportunities, therefore lack that experience.

He should be able to pick from Pres. Obama's Secretaries of State, Kerry and Hillary.  Dead end there.  Clinton's female Secretary of State, Madeline Albright?  Not eligible, now past her time.  How about the most powerful woman in the world, Nancy Pelosi?  Too bad they didn't pick their best and brightest for leadership of the House they control, ready to step up now.   Nobody there.

Too bad he won't pick my pick, perhaps the most qualified woman in the country, centrist, smart, experienced, black, with great personal history to reach out to all undecideds, Condi Rice.

Shortly we will know his pick.  Or is it his handler's pick?

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Biden's strategy
« Reply #748 on: August 01, 2020, 10:16:15 AM »
https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/joe-bidens-big-tent-strategy-seems-to-be-working?utm_source=nl&utm_brand=tny&utm_mailing=TNY_Daily_080120&utm_campaign=aud-dev&utm_medium=email&bxid=5be9d3fa3f92a40469e2d85c&cndid=50142053&hasha=52f016547a40edbdd6de69b8a7728bbf&hashb=e02b3c0e6e0f3888e0288d6e52a57eccde1bfd75&hashc=9aab918d394ee25f13d70b69b378385abe4212016409c8a7a709eca50e71c1bc&esrc=bounceX&utm_term=TNY_Daily

Earlier this week, there was a telling moment when Joe Biden spoke in Wilmington, Delaware, about the need to combat systemic racism and foster racial equality in the American economy. His speech was the latest in a series of public appearances in which the Presidential candidate has rolled out his Build Back Better economic agenda; earlier discussions were devoted to strengthening American manufacturing, addressing climate change, and building up the caring economy. “This election is not just about voting against Donald Trump,” Biden said. “It’s about rising to this moment of crisis, understanding people’s struggles, and building a future worthy of their courage and their ambition to overcome.”

The giveaway was the phrase “not just about.” Since capturing the Democratic nomination, Biden has repeatedly acknowledged, implicitly and explicitly, that, for many Americans, the 2020 election is mainly about getting rid of his opponent. This dynamic was clear during the primaries, when a majority of Democrats told pollsters that their top priority was selecting someone who could defeat Trump. It’s evident today in the endorsements that the former Vice-President has picked up, from groups ranging from the Lincoln Project, an organization of Never Trump Republicans that is running ads attacking the President and supporting Biden, to Indivisible, a group of progressive activists whose home page blares, “beat trump and save democracy.”

To the members of these groups, and to many other Americans, Biden’s role is to serve as a human lever to pry a disastrous President out of the White House. Defying the concerns of some political professionals who watched his primary campaign, the former Vice-President is shaping up to be an effective crowbar. Since wrapping up the nomination, in March, he and his campaign team have successfully navigated at least three significant political challenges.

The first was uniting the Democratic Party after a chaotic primary season. To this end, Biden has reached out to the Party’s progressive wing and tacked to the left in some of his own policy proposals. He created a Unity Task Force—including Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and other supporters of Bernie Sanders—that released a lengthy set of recommendations earlier this month. Biden now supports Elizabeth Warren’s bankruptcy plan, which would make it easier for financially strapped people to discharge their debts. He has put forward a proposal to insure free tuition for many students at public colleges, modelled on an earlier Sanders plan. His climate-change strategy sets a target of 2035 for the creation of a zero-emissions power grid, which is just five years later than the deadline laid out in the Green New Deal. Some Sanders supporters are still scornful of Biden, but there has been no repeat of the internecine conflict that occurred in 2016.

The second task facing Biden was to fashion a coherent response to the tumultuous events of 2020. That’s where his Build Back Better plan comes in. The members of his policy team have worked on the assumption that the coronavirus-stricken economy will need substantial financial support for years. They think that this presents an opportunity to make it greener, more worker-friendly, and more racially inclusive. Biden’s proposals include spending two trillion dollars on projects to move beyond fossil fuels; seven hundred and seventy-five billion dollars on expanding care for preschoolers and the elderly; and a hundred and fifty billion dollars on supporting small, minority-owned businesses. He’s also promised to insure that forty per cent of the investment in green-energy infrastructure benefits disadvantaged communities, to expand rent subsidies for low-income households, to facilitate labor-union organizing, and to introduce a national minimum wage of fifteen dollars per hour.

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Many progressive policy experts still think that Biden’s proposals don’t go far enough, but some of them are also issuing qualified praise. “When you look at all four elements of his economic platform, I think some of them have been very good—the climate plan in particular,” Felicia Wong, the president of the Roosevelt Institute, told me. Wong also said that the speech Biden gave this week about the economy, race, and the coronavirus was an effective one. “He recognized that people of color suffer the most in economic downturns, and also bounce back last,” she said. “It’s hard for a lot of people to make the race and economic arguments together, and he laid it out eloquently.”

The third challenge that Biden faced was to avoid giving Trump an easy target. The pandemic has made the dodging part easier. Hunkered down in Wilmington, Biden largely has left the President to dig his own hole—which he has done, ably. But Biden has also reached out to Trump Country. The first of his Build Back Better speeches was delivered in Rust Belt Pennsylvania: it included calls to restore American manufacturing and “buy American.” As well as adopting some of the language of economic nationalism, Biden has rejected certain progressive proposals, such as defunding the police and enforcing a complete ban on fracking, that might alienate moderate whites in battleground states.

This is smart politics, Ruy Teixeira, a polling expert and senior fellow at the Center for American Progress, told me. Despite the changing demographics of the United States, whites who don’t have a college degree still make up about forty-four per cent of the eligible electorate, according to Teixeira; in some places, such as parts of the Midwest, the figure is even higher. “You cannot cede massive sections of the electorate if you want to be successful politically,” Teixeira said.

In 2016, Trump carried the white non-college demographic by thirty-one percentage points at the national level, according to Teixeira’s analysis of exit polls and election returns. Biden has narrowed the gap to twelve points, Teixeira said, citing a recent survey. That is similar to the margin in 2008, when Barack Obama defeated John McCain and the Democrats increased their majorities in both houses of Congress. As it is often defined, the Obama coalition consisted of minority voters, college-educated white liberals, and young people. Teixeira pointed out that Obama’s ability to restrict McCain’s margin in the white non-college demographic was also important, and if Biden matched that feat in November, he said, it could be of enormous consequence. “This is not the only thing that is going wrong for Trump,” Teixeira said, “but it is the thing that could give the Democrats the big victory that they need to govern effectively.”

None of this means that Biden is a lock for the Oval Office. Between now and November 3rd, something could conceivably shift the momentum against him, such as a Vice-Presidential pick that backfires, a major slipup in the debates, or a surprising economic upturn. Right now, though, the challenger’s strategy of keeping the focus on the incumbent and pitching a broad tent that accommodates anyone who wants to see the back of Trump is working well.

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WSJ: Biden's Taxes
« Reply #749 on: August 01, 2020, 10:18:42 AM »
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Read Joe Biden’s Lips: New Taxes
More than $3 trillion in new levies on incomes, payrolls and more.
By The Editorial Board
July 31, 2020 6:51 pm ET
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Democratic presidential candidate and former Vice President Joe Biden speaks at the Chase Center in Wilmington, Delaware, July 14.
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Joe Biden is a heavy favorite to be the next President, yet the media have barely paid attention to what he will do if he wins. We’ll try to fill that knowledge gap in the coming weeks, and a good place to start is his proposal for tax increases of more than $3 trillion over a decade. Let’s examine the unfine print:

• Individual incomes: Raise the top marginal rate to 39.6%, from 37%. Repeal the $10,000 cap on the deduction for state-and-local taxes, giving a bigger break to places like San Francisco and New York. But limit the tax benefit of itemized deductions to 28% of face value, hitting higher earners.

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• Payrolls: Apply a 12.4% Social Security tax, split between workers and their employers, to all income over $400,000, with no cap. The current payroll tax comes off after $137,700 of income, but under Mr. Biden’s plan the levy would be limitless. No more polite fiction of Social Security as an “earned” benefit.

Economists say the payroll tax falls mainly on workers, even though half is purportedly “paid” by employers. All together, including Mr. Biden’s 39.6% rate on income, the federal government’s top marginal tax on labor would be higher than 50%. Factor in state income taxes—California’s 13.3% top rate or New Jersey’s 10.75%—and the marginal rate would hit the 60s.

• Capital gains: For those earning more than $1 million, tax capital gains and dividends as regular income, at the new top rate of 39.6%. That’s almost double the current top rate of 23.8%, including the ObamaCare surtax. Capital gains haven’t been taxed as heavily as Mr. Biden proposes since the bad old 1970s.

Who knows if it’ll stop there. Last year the ranking Democrat on the Senate Finance Committee, Oregon’s Ron Wyden, suggested taxing unrealized gains, before the investor sells, using a mark-to-market scheme. The wealthy would pay taxes each year on their paper gains, though there are a host of problems, like how they’d value illiquid assets and if they’d get a refund when the market subsequently fell (don’t count on it).

• Estates: Repeal stepped-up basis at death. This could mean slapping capital-gains taxes on the dearly departed. Or the property received by heirs would arrive with taxable capital gains hidden inside, and no adjustment for inflation. Mr. Biden hasn’t said what he’d do to the estate tax, currently set at 40%, above an individual exemption of about $11.6 million. But his new pal Bernie Sanders wants to lower the exemption to $3.5 million and lift rates up to 77%.

Joe Biden's New Tax Burden
The estimated effects of Biden’s main tax proposals in 2021, assuming that one-fifth of his higher corporate tax falls on workers.
INCOME GROUP   AVERAGE NEW TAX BURDEN ($)   CHANGE IN AFTER-TAX INCOME (%)
0–10%   18   –0.6
10–20%   31   –0.3
20–30%   49   –0.3
30–40%   79   –0.3
40–50%   121   –0.3
50–60%   222   –0.5
60–70%   310   –0.5
70–80%   454   –0.6
80–90%   725   –0.6
90–95%   1,368   –0.8
95–99%   3,372   –1.8
Top 1%   118,194   –17.8
Source: The American Enterprise Institute, "An Analysis of Joe Biden’s Tax Proposals," June 2020

• Corporate incomes: Raise the rate to 28%, from 21%. To see how this would compare globally, add America’s state taxes on corporate income: up to 8.84% in California or 9.5% in Illinois. Last year the European Union’s average top statutory rate was 21.8%. Don’t be surprised if U.S. companies return to the pre-Trump pattern of moving their headquarters overseas.

• Corporate minimum: Put a 15% minimum tax on the “book income” of businesses with $100 million in profits. Mr. Biden’s campaign said last year it would affect about 300 companies, though draining their capital could slow down America’s economic dynamos.

• Foreign earnings: Since Mr. Biden’s other tax increases would raise the business incentives to shift income abroad, double to 21%, from 10.5%, the minimum tax on “global intangible low tax income.”

• Tax credits: Create or expand a plethora of tax credits: a new refundable and “advanceable” $15,000 “down payment tax credit for first-time home buyers”; $8,000 for “child and dependent care”; $5,000 for “informal caregivers”; $5,000 for “hiring a person with a disability”; a low-income renter’s tax credit “designed to reduce rent and utilities to 30% of income.”

Also: the Earned Income Tax Credit; a Manufacturing Communities Tax Credit; the Low-Income Housing Tax Credit; the New Markets Tax Credit; the Work Opportunity Tax Credit; the solar Investment Tax Credit; “tax credits for residential energy efficiency”; and a restoration of “the full electric-vehicle tax credit.” Mr. Biden would lard the IRS code with spending and subsidies for favored businesses and behavior. This would allocate investment based on politics rather than economic returns, as companies look for ways to reduce their overall tax rates.

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Mr. Biden has said he won’t raise taxes on anybody making under $400,000 a year. In 2016 Hillary Clinton made that pledge at $250,000. Either way, it’s a mirage. Higher corporate taxes are inevitably paid by workers in lower wages, or by shareholders (including pension funds) in lower returns on their investments.

Revenue estimates for Mr. Biden’s tax agenda vary, from $4 trillion over a decade to $3.2 trillion, after accounting for how it would shrink the economy. But analysts confirm the phoniness of Mr. Biden’s pledge. Over the long run, the Tax Foundation said in April, his main tax proposals would lower after-tax incomes for every quintile, including 1.4% for the middle class.

An American Enterprise Institute study from June assumed that a fifth of the higher corporate tax would fall on workers “in the form of lower compensation.” If so, taxpayers in the 80% to 90% decile, earning around $170,000 to $248,000, would carry an additional $725 tax burden in 2021, on average. For those in the 90% to 95% range, earning less than $353,000, the figure would be $1,368. “Overall,” the report says, “24.7 percent of new tax revenue in 2021 would come from the bottom 99 percent of taxpayers.”

That’s before Mr. Biden has to figure out how to pay for the full spending agenda he is laying out for the left. He claims his tax proposals will soak only the affluent, but they won’t raise nearly enough money to finance all of his plans. In the end everyone will pay.