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should Barr appoint IC
« Reply #800 on: August 22, 2020, 08:48:37 AM »
to investigate the collusion of Dems with the Chinese"

Just wondering.

https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/nancy-pelosi-house-democrats-propaganda/2020/08/21/id/983400/

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Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #802 on: August 23, 2020, 06:24:46 AM »
could we imagine the optics of Nancy Pelosi announcing the winner of 2020?

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Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #803 on: August 23, 2020, 06:11:26 PM »
DNC noted for what was NOT mentioned, continued:

IN SOVIET AMERICA, DEMOCRATS MEMORY HOLE THEMSELVES! Good point: Did anyone notice that President Trump’s impeachment ‘didn’t even warrant a mention’ at the Democratic convention?

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2020/08/22/good-point-did-anyone-notice-that-president-trumps-impeachment-didnt-even-warrant-a-mention-at-the-democratic-convention/
https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/395666/

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2020 Presidential election RNC Convention-al wisdom out
« Reply #804 on: August 24, 2020, 06:28:24 AM »
Trump will appear in person every night?

One set of advice says go all positive.  But he feels he must call out the Biden lies.  They have already produced a lot of effective video for that.

Black Lives Matter?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdnXBP4uC-I

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JOE BIDEN
That’s sloppy, Joe.
Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden reprised his penchant for borrowing lines from other people’s work this week — apparently relying a bit too heavily on the words of a deceased Canuck party leader during his acceptance speech at the Democratic National Convention, reports said.

Biden concluded his Thursday night speech by saying: “For love is more powerful than hate. Hope is more powerful than fear. Light is more powerful than dark.”

But Canadian media quickly noted that the former veep’s words were uncannily similar to those of Jack Layton, the leader of Canada’s left-wing New Democratic Party, who issued a poignant open letter to his fellow citizens as he lay dying in 2011.

“My friends,” Layton wrote, “Love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair.”

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Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #805 on: August 24, 2020, 09:11:25 AM »
"Trump will appear in person every night?

One set of advice says go all positive.  But he feels he must call out the Biden lies."

at least a pubic hair of (pretended) empathy will also help

the Dems pretended that card all 4 days


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Re: 2020 Presidential election - RNC Night One, Home Run
« Reply #806 on: August 25, 2020, 05:51:47 AM »
Persuasion, Strength, Freedom, and we've been asking for, for over a decade, Clarity.  Nikki Haley and Tim Scott could not have been better.  [Don Jr. made good points but lacked the empathetic delivery.]  The panels of hostages returned and the Jim Jordan speech even gave us what ccp asked for, a look at Donald Trump's empathy.  His empathy always seems to convert into action.  For one thing, growing the economy IS empathy.  Billionaire's don't need that.  It's the regular people and struggling people who benefit the most.

I tried to watch the first hour on PBS because the networks didn't cover it.  But PBS kept interrupting coverage with their anti-Trump and never-Trump panelists, all of them even the moderator telling us how these pretty good stories are designed to mitigate how badly things really are going for Trump and all his problems. 

On ABC, Rahm Emmanuel points out that Clinton actually created more jobs.  No one corrects him, that was two terms with all the growth in the second term, and it was called the Gingrich Revolution.  Yes, it coincided with flipping the House and Senate Republican.  Good points for 2020 Rahm.

Kim Klacek:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=97&v=H4rYc3QcPX8&feature=emb_logo

Herschel Walker:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/08/24/herschel_walker_insulting_when_people_call_donald_trump_racist.html

Dem Rep Vern Jones:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=10&v=_MN6x7RpJ1A&feature=emb_logo

Nikki Haley:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/08/24/nikki_haley_america_is_not_a_racist_country.html

Tim Scott
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbjn2bg1Eus&feature=emb_logo

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day #!
« Reply #807 on: August 25, 2020, 07:00:35 AM »
"Good points for 2020 Rahm."
  :-o:-o:-o.

good convention

almost all positive

empathy shown
was good
 
pitch to minorities good
all the good things Trump has done for them (more then 50 yrs of DEm controlled areas)
but of course the MSM and the rest of the left ignores

i am not sure i trust Nikki Haley though - to much of a Bushie I feel
  but overall she is a Republican

Liked the Georgia state rep democrat his speech was better than he is getting credit for

Andrew Pollack very touching
  and good points about sec amendment

except Kimberly tried too hard and went way over the top

actually watched part of the time on CNN
which did not cut in like Fox news every minute
surprisingly







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Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #808 on: August 25, 2020, 07:03:48 AM »


https://news.stonybrook.edu/facultystaff/maverick-modeller-helmut-norpoth-predicts-another-win-for-trump/

"except Kimberly tried too hard and went way over the top"

She's trying out to be Mrs Trump Jr.


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They are demanding a $100 trillion dollar 'investment'.  That's just our country.

The latest Gallup poll found that only 1% of US adults consider “climate change/environment/pollution” to be “the most important problem facing this country today.” That’s down from a meager 2% in the May 28-June 4 poll.

68% of adult Americans were unwilling to pay even an extra $10 on their monthly electricity bill to combat global warming.  (Umm, folks, you already are.)

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/08/22/the-green-new-deal-means-monumental-disruption/

Ban on fracking - on the ballot.
End of US energy independence - back on the ballot.
Ban on private automobile under your control - coming.

It's not just the cost, they demand we switch to reliance on an intermittent, unreliable, vulnerable grid that doesn't handle what we already put on it.

What is the environmental cost of the batteries that run a US economy on solar after dark??  It depends on whether you mean the economy we have now or the one we will have after they turn us into North Korea:

Almost invisible: North Korea (the dark area) and South Korea are seen at night in this NASA photograph from the International Space Station

Is THAT what WE want?

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Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #811 on: August 26, 2020, 08:06:26 AM »
Doug please see my post under pathological science.

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totally strange
« Reply #812 on: August 26, 2020, 02:13:01 PM »
i forgot she was married to newsom

democrat to republican

or player who is politically ac/dc who just likes power?

 :|

https://news.yahoo.com/kimberly-guilfoyle-went-san-franciscos-031506609.html

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2020 Presidential election, RNC Night 3, Mike Pence
« Reply #813 on: August 27, 2020, 10:31:04 AM »

Here are some key excerpts:

My fellow Americans you deserve to know, Joe Biden criticized President Trump following his decision to rid the world of both of those terrorists [Abu Bakr al-Baghdad and Qassem Soleimani. But it’s not surprising because history records that Joe Biden even opposed the operation that took down Osama Bin Laden.

It’s no wonder Bob Gates, Secretary of defense under the Obama Biden Administration said Joe Biden had “been wrong on nearly every major foreign policy and national security issue over the past four decades.”…

Last week, Joe Biden didn’t say one word about the violence and chaos engulfing cities across this country. Let me be clear: the violence must stop — whether in Minneapolis, Portland, or Kenosha….

Joe Biden says America is systemically racist. And that law enforcement in America has a, quote, “implicit bias” against minorities. And when asked whether he’d support cutting funding to law enforcement, and he replied, “Yes, absolutely.”

Joe Biden would double down on the very policies that are leading to unsafe streets and violence in America’s cities. The hard truth is… you won’t be safe in Joe Biden’s America. Under President Trump, we will stand with those who stand on the Thin Blue Line, and we’re not going to defund the police — not now, not ever.

Joe Biden has referred to himself as a “transition candidate.” But many are asking: A transition to what? Last week, Democrats didn’t talk much about their agenda, and if I were them, I wouldn’t want to either.

Bernie Sanders, did tell his followers that Joe Biden could be the most liberal President of modern times, and confirmed that, quote, “Many of the ideas we fought for, that just a few years ago were considered radical, are now mainstream” in the Democratic Party.

At the root of their agenda, is the belief that America is driven by envy, not aspiration — that millions of Americans harbor ill-will toward their neighbors, instead of loving our neighbors as themselves. The radical left believes the federal government must be involved in every aspect of our lives to correct those American wrongs. They believe the federal government needs to dictate how Americans live, how we should work, how we should raise our children — and, in the process, deprive our people of freedom, prosperity, and security. Their agenda is based on government control; our agenda is based on freedom.

Where President Trump cut taxes—Joe Biden wants to raise taxes by nearly $4 trillion.

Where this President achieved energy independence for the United States. Joe Biden would abolish fossil fuels, end fracking, and impose a regime of climate change regulations that would drastically increase the cost of living for working families.

Where we fought for free and fair trade this President stood up to China and ended the era of economic surrender.

Joe Biden has been a cheerleader for communist China — wants to repeal all the tariffs that are leveling the playing field for American workers and actually criticized President Trump for suspending all travel from China at the outset of this pandemic.

Joe Biden is for open borders; sanctuary cities; and free lawyers and healthcare for illegal immigrants. President Trump has secured our southern border and built nearly 300 miles of the wall.

Joe Biden wants to end school choice. President Trump believes every parent should have the right to choose where their children go to school regardless of their income or area code.

Joe Biden supports taxpayer funding of abortion right up to the moment of birth. President Donald Trump has been the most pro-life President in American history.

When you consider their agenda it’s clear: Joe Biden would be nothing more than a Trojan horse for a radical left.

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/08/vice-president-pences-speech.php

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2020 Presidential election, Did I mention Kristi Noem?
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Left and never trumpers response to Trump speech
« Reply #817 on: August 28, 2020, 06:02:39 AM »
speech "too long"

"boring"

"monotonous"

"not energetic"

" he looked tired and not really into it since he read teleprompter and did not improvise"

( or say something they could make into the contra headline the next morning )

"no one wearing masks"

"disgracing the White House"

etc etc etc

PS I liked the speech ; finally someone to stand up the Left
   we will see Nov 3rd if too late or not


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« Reply #818 on: August 28, 2020, 08:52:28 AM »
The GOP Tries to Make Its Case
The Republican National Convention was strange, sometimes compelling.

By Peggy Noonan
Aug. 27, 2020 11:39 pm ET

It was a real insane-a-thon. It was genuinely moving. It didn’t avoid big issues. It led with a lie. It was a success in that it will have pleased the base and done some degree of outreach to others.

The parts of the Republican National Convention that were crazy included but were not limited to:

“Trump is the bodyguard of Western civilization,” said Charlie Kirk. “The frontier, the horizon, even the stars belong to us,” said Rep. Matt Gaetz. I’m still recovering from Kimberly Guilfoyle’s screaming. It was like seeing Eva Peron in an extended manic episode running from balcony to balcony warning the descamisados to stay armed, the oligarchs are coming. This was unfortunate because it was the first night and if Ms. Guilfoyle seemed insane, Republicans seemed insane.

They reduced the White House to a stage set for a political convention, which had never been done before. Had it never been done because all previous presidents were unimaginative? Why, no. It had never been done because they had some class. By tradition and long custom the two parties are political constructs that exist outside and apart from the peoples’ house. Maintaining the boundary protected that house’s standing as a place higher than politics to which all have recourse. “I fly from petty tyrants to the throne.”

Republicans will see the civic sin of this when the Democrats do it, as they will. For now they say, “Huh, it’s all politics there anyway.” It is, pretty much. But it’s healthy to pretend otherwise. “Hypocrisy is the tribute vice pays to virtue.” You’ll miss that tribute when it’s fully gone.

Some speakers decried elitist-insider nepotism. Others introduced the Trump children.

We are not a third-rate banana republic but at the moment we’re imitating one.

The president’s leadership in the coronavirus epidemic was lauded as timely and visionary. This is the big lie mentioned above. He denied the threat, lied with an almost pleasing abandon, especially about testing, and when forced to focus held bumbling daily briefings that only made things worse.

It was a mistake to insist it was a success. That ship has sunk.

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What lifted the convention was the normal people who spoke, who were moving and provided the policy ballast the politicians often did not. More than half the speakers were homespun policy nerds in the way Americans learn to be now. We heard—and it was compelling—about U.S. timber and forestry regulation, lobster quotas, FDA protocols regarding permissions for the terminally ill to access experimental treatments, and breakthroughs in tele-health services. It was not all granular. Rebecca Friedrichs, a veteran California public school educator, painted the teachers unions as a reactionary force. “They spend hundreds of millions annually to defeat charter schools and school choice.” They do. It’s odd we don’t speak of this anymore since school choice is so crucial to so many.

Maximo Alvarez, who fled Cuba when young, looked at the protests that have been sweeping our cities for three months and said, “I have seen people like this before. I’ve seen movements like this before. I’ve seen ideas like this before.” It reminded him of a man long ago: Fidel Castro.

A convicted bank robber, Jon Ponder, became a religious man, changed his life, and started a prisoner re-entry program. He was issued a pardon by Mr. Trump, live, the FBI agent who’d befriended Mr. Ponder standing with him. If you weren’t moved by it you don’t do moved.

Abby Johnson, formerly of Planned Parenthood, gave the most compelling speech on abortion, explaining why pro-life people stand where they stand, that has ever been given at any convention anywhere. Nick Sandmann, the libeled teenager who did nothing wrong when the Native-American activist banged a drum in his face, spoke, entirely believably, on why Americans do not trust the media.

Sen. Tim Scott of South Carolina was impressive.

He too spoke for school choice. “A quality education is the closest thing to magic in America.” It had changed his life. He and his brother were sons of a single mother; they lived with relatives and slept three in the bed. He got an education, went into business, ran for Congress in an overwhelmingly white district in Charleston and beat the field, included the son of former-Sen. Strom Thurmond. How did a black man who started with nothing do that? “Because of the evolution of the Southern heart.” That is a beautiful phrase.

Mr. Scott said his grandfather would have been 99 this week. That old man had suffered indignities; no one had even bothered to teach him to read and write. But he lived to see his grandson become the first African-American elected to both the U.S. House and Senate. “Our family went from cotton to Congress in one lifetime,” he said, with an air of what seemed fresh wonder.

It was beautiful, and affectionate about America to the point of tenderness.

The Republicans confronted what the Democrats at their convention glossed over: rising crime, looting and rioting in city protests, increased unease about personal safety, and besieged police forces. They hit on the one fear shared equally now by the rich, the poor and the middle: that when you call 911 you’ll go to voicemail. Someone literally used that image.

Social media is sharing the videos of diners at outside restaurants being swarmed by BLM protesters who try to harass and bully them into raising their arms in affiliation. There are videos of protesters marching on so-called gentrified neighborhoods at night, telling those who live there, through bullhorns, that they’re guilty of appropriation. There aren’t a lot of these videos but they carry a suggestion of where things are going. Rep. Debbie Dingell (D. Mich.), made an acute observation this week to Gideon Rachman in the Financial Times. She said in her district there are a lot of signs saying Blue Lives Matter—cops matter too. On voter sentiment she quoted a viral social media post: “I used to think I was pretty much just a regular person. But I was born white into a two-parent household, which now labels me as privileged, racist, and responsible for slavery.”

This country is full of law-abiding people of all colors who are appalled by Donald Trump. It is political malpractice to push them toward him.

Mark and Patricia McCloskey, the controversial couple who recently met protesters on or near their property in St. Louis with guns, looking in the photos provocative and nutty, gave their side of the story: They were trying to protect their home from what they thought was immediate danger. They spoke against violence, defunding the police, and ending the cash bail system.

Andrew Pollack, the father of a teenage daughter killed at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Fla., eviscerated the liberal school and police policies that he believes contributed to his daughter’s death. “Far left Democrats in our school district made this shooting possible.”

Democratic political professionals must have found all this pretty powerful because almost immediately Democratic candidates began to decry the violence with what might be called increased vigor.

The president spoke also. The headline on his acceptance speech was the staggering degradation of the White House as his rally prop. The subhead is that he smacked Joe Biden around like a ruffian. It’s going to be something to see them debate. That will be one intensely human encounter.



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I formerly admired Peggy Noonan.  Sounds like she is grudgingly coming back around.  Biden isn't the guy you cross over for and Trump has governed WAY better than anyone could have expected.

Just picking out the positive [from Crafty's post]:

What lifted the convention was the normal people who spoke, who were moving and provided the policy ballast the politicians often did not. More than half the speakers were homespun policy nerds in the way Americans learn to be now. We heard—and it was compelling—about U.S. timber and forestry regulation, lobster quotas, FDA protocols regarding permissions for the terminally ill to access experimental treatments, and breakthroughs in tele-health services. It was not all granular. Rebecca Friedrichs, a veteran California public school educator, painted the teachers unions as a reactionary force. “They spend hundreds of millions annually to defeat charter schools and school choice.” They do. It’s odd we don’t speak of this anymore since school choice is so crucial to so many.

Maximo Alvarez, who fled Cuba when young, looked at the protests that have been sweeping our cities for three months and said, “I have seen people like this before. I’ve seen movements like this before. I’ve seen ideas like this before.” It reminded him of a man long ago: Fidel Castro.

A convicted bank robber, Jon Ponder, became a religious man, changed his life, and started a prisoner re-entry program. He was issued a pardon by Mr. Trump, live, the FBI agent who’d befriended Mr. Ponder standing with him. If you weren’t moved by it you don’t do moved.

Abby Johnson, formerly of Planned Parenthood, gave the most compelling speech on abortion, explaining why pro-life people stand where they stand, that has ever been given at any convention anywhere. Nick Sandmann, the libeled teenager who did nothing wrong when the Native-American activist banged a drum in his face, spoke, entirely believably, on why Americans do not trust the media.

Sen. Tim Scott of South Carolina was impressive.

He too spoke for school choice. “A quality education is the closest thing to magic in America.” It had changed his life. He and his brother were sons of a single mother; they lived with relatives and slept three in the bed. He got an education, went into business, ran for Congress in an overwhelmingly white district in Charleston and beat the field, included the son of former-Sen. Strom Thurmond. How did a black man who started with nothing do that? “Because of the evolution of the Southern heart.” That is a beautiful phrase.

Mr. Scott said his grandfather would have been 99 this week. That old man had suffered indignities; no one had even bothered to teach him to read and write. But he lived to see his grandson become the first African-American elected to both the U.S. House and Senate. “Our family went from cotton to Congress in one lifetime,” he said, with an air of what seemed fresh wonder.

It was beautiful, and affectionate about America to the point of tenderness.

The Republicans confronted what the Democrats at their convention glossed over: rising crime, looting and rioting in city protests, increased unease about personal safety, and besieged police forces. They hit on the one fear shared equally now by the rich, the poor and the middle: that when you call 911 you’ll go to voicemail. Someone literally used that image.

Social media is sharing the videos of diners at outside restaurants being swarmed by BLM protesters who try to harass and bully them into raising their arms in affiliation. There are videos of protesters marching on so-called gentrified neighborhoods at night, telling those who live there, through bullhorns, that they’re guilty of appropriation.

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Re: One of RNC images was from Spain
« Reply #823 on: August 31, 2020, 09:11:41 AM »
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/janelytvynenko/rnc-protest-video-barcelona

"The video is part of a pattern of Trump and his supporters portraying BLM protests as violent."

   - Umm, they are violent.

False photos should NOT have been used.  Hardly necessary with 1500 buildings destroyed in Minneapolis alone.

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Biden Harris were pro riot before they were anti riot
« Reply #824 on: August 31, 2020, 11:09:28 PM »
Among those bailed out by the Minnesota Freedom Fund (MFF) is a suspect who shot at police, a woman accused of killing a friend, and a twice convicted sex offender, according to court records reviewed by the FOX 9 Investigators.

According to attempted murder charges, Jaleel Stallings shot at members of a SWAT Team during the riots in May. Police recovered a modified pistol that looks like an AK-47. MFF paid $75,000 in cash to get Stallings out of jail.

Darnika Floyd is charged with second degree murder, for stabbing a friend to death. MFF paid $100,000 cash for her release.

Christopher Boswell, a twice convicted rapist, is currently charged with kidnapping, assault, and sexual assault in two separate cases. MFF paid $350,00 [sic] in cash for his release

https://thefederalist.com/2020/08/31/meet-the-rioting-criminals-kamala-harris-helped-bail-out-of-jail/

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Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #825 on: September 01, 2020, 04:32:31 AM »
"."The video is part of a pattern of Trump and his supporters portraying BLM protests as violent."

   - Umm, they are violent."

The media already FULL FORCE showing Biden suddenly condemn the violence and pretend he is for law and order

And going bonkers with all DJT  tweets and ad lib comments

demanding DJT condemn racism
and cave to all the Left's demands otherwise he is stoking anger division and racism

nothing like almost the entire media political complex carrying all the water for one party .

interesting :
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2020/08/31/trump-i-dont-want-my-supporters-confronting-protesters/


I did not see this at all on MSLSD or Commie NN this am:

Trump calling for his defenders of property
not to confront BLM
let the police do it even though they are not allowed to under Dem rule
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2020/08/31/trump-i-dont-want-my-supporters-confronting-protesters/
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Re: 2020 Presidential election, MN
« Reply #826 on: September 01, 2020, 04:30:40 PM »
What if the 270th vote comes Minnesota?  Cornerstone of the former blue wall, it's been 48 years since a Republican took it.  If you don't count Nixon in '72 who governed like a Democrat, it's been 64 years since Eisenhower won Minnesota.  No Republican has won any statewide election since 2006. Right now it is truly a toss up and Joe Biden has barely begun to implode. 

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-minnesota-could-be-the-next-midwestern-state-to-go-red/

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2020 Presidential election-The finger in the Dike
« Reply #827 on: September 02, 2020, 07:39:20 AM »
https://claremontreviewofbooks.com/the-finger-in-the-dike-election/

aug 31, 2020
The Finger in the Dike Election
by Angelo M. Codevilla
 

On September 11, 2001, United Airlines Flight 93’s passengers defied armed hijackers and fought to take over the cockpit regardless of danger or odds because they realized that certain death was the alternative. Michael Anton’s 2016 essay “The Flight 93 Election,” written for the Claremont Review of Books and later expanded into a book, argued that although Americans did not know what kind of president Donald Trump would be, they should risk all to elect him because they could be very sure that the alternative would be our republic’s death.

In his new book, The Stakes: America at the Point of No Return, Anton, now a lecturer and research fellow at Hillsdale College, again urges Americans to vote for Trump, disappointed though they may be with his performance, because they know even better than before how much this country’s ruling class would use control of the presidency to hurt us in our private and public lives for having dared to reject their mastery. Trump, imperfect as he is, is like a finger in a dike that, if removed, would loose a deluge. Anton describes how the Democratic Party-led complex of public-private power has been transforming our free, decent, and prosperous country into its opposite—and how it’s going to do to the rest of America what it has already largely accomplished in California. In the book’s final chapters, he lays out several paths that the current struggle for America’s future might take.

Anton’s commentary on the 2020 election does not belabor the obvious: it is a binary choice. The unprecedented level of opposition President Trump has faced explains, but does not excuse, some of his shortcomings. As Anton puts it: “[t]here’s little wrong with President Trump that more Trump couldn’t solve.” Then he adds what is really radically new about the 2020 election: should the Democrats win, the ruling Left—which includes just about everyone who controls American government and society’s commanding heights—is ready, willing, and eager to implement plans that would make it virtually impossible for conservatives ever to win national elections again. These plans include the importation and counting of non-citizen voters. Elections-by-mail would shift power from voters to those who count the votes, just like in Venezuela. Though reelecting Trump makes the republic’s survival possible, and preserves all manner of good options, it guarantees nothing. Trump’s defeat guarantees disaster—like in 2016, only much more so.

The bulk of this well-written book juxtaposes accounts of life under what had been the American constitutional regime with the ruling-class politics that have gone a long way to destroy it. It opens with a bittersweet description of California, then and now. Anton, a young man, is old enough to remember it a near-paradise. Those of a certain age have even more idyllic memories of the Golden State’s unrivaled beauty and plenty, crowned by freedom, ease, and safety. Millions flocked to work and raise families here.

Yet in 2020 productive middle-class families are fleeing California—so much so that the state will probably lose a seat in the House of Representatives after this year’s census. And all because its government—controlled by oligarchs in the entertainment and high-tech industries, as well as the state bureaucracy and public sector labor unions—raised taxes, imposed regulations, let public services decay, stopped defending against criminals, and empowered left-wing social activists. Today’s California is for government-favored oligarchs and those who service them. You want a career? If you don’t conform every word and action to the ruling orthodoxies, your work and talents will be wasted. You want your children to grow up intelligent and decent? The schools will teach them little reasoning and much depravity. Like you, they will also learn to compete by favor-seeking rather than by performance. You see crime rising, sense that you have to protect yourself, but know that, in most of the state, the police will arrest you for it. And you are sick of paying for it all. That is why you want to emigrate from California into the United States of America.

Having held up California as the example of what full-throttle liberalism looks like, Anton offers a defense of the American regime in the face of criticisms from what one might call the nativist Right as well as from the Left. Impressive in its logic and concise in its comprehensiveness, it shows the partial truths on which these critiques are based in the full light of history. All that the United States is really does follow from the founding generation’s understanding of human beings’ inalienable equality before God. The principle of majority rule has no other foundation. Already by the time of the founding, however, America, like every other nation, had acquired a distinct character—language, religion, and customs—that it meant to preserve and defend. A nation of immigrants, to be sure. But the country was never open to just anybody for any reason. Anton cites the 1795 Naturalization Act that specifies agreement with the Constitution and disposition to help the country as conditions for admission. For almost 200 years the Constitution, the American people’s basic “deal” with one another, channeled our strivings and disagreement into deliberations and compromises that allowed us to live the mostly decent lives our culture prescribed. Adherence to its restraints preserved our capacity to continue dealing with problems in more or less predictable freedom.

But, beginning in the 1930s, America’s ruling class pushed aside the Constitution, reducing to a bad joke the civics class description of the regime: “Congress makes the laws, the President enforces them, and the courts resolve individual disputes about them.” In today’s America, Anton writes,

The real power…resides not with elected (or appointed) officials and “world leaders”; they—or most of them—are a servant class. The real power resides with their donors, the bankers, CEOs, financiers, and tech oligarchs—some of whom occasionally run for and win office, but most of whom, most of the time, are content to buy off those who do. The end result is the same either way: economic globalism and financialization, consolidation of power in an ostensibly “meritocratic” but actually semi-hereditary class, livened up by social libertinism.

This ruling class now explicitly denies that “all men are created equal.” It asserts for itself the right to rule by decree by virtue of expertise, and the power to assign different rights and obligations to classes of people, “protected” and less so.

Despising any divine or natural authority and contemptuous of America’s history, those in the ruling class make war on the American people’s culture and national identity. Ironically, this ruling class, led almost exclusively by white men, have cast white men in general as the proper targets of universal vengeance—an inversion of reality sustained by a near-monopoly of power over corrupt institutions and mass communications. Anton’s section on “Propaganda and Censorship: Narrative, Megaphone, and Muzzle” is particularly worth reading.

He then proceeds to a CT scan of the ruling class and its entourage. Detailed understanding of its components’ relations to one another is essential to understanding the book’s main argument about the how this class might weather the challenges that its own increasing power creates. Anton’s description of the ruling class—of its intellectual/social origins, its organic and patronage connection with government, its clientelistic relationship with its various components—is consistent with my 2010 book of that title, but it is richer and livelier in its detail. It leaves no doubt about the fraud at the heart of this class’s claim of authority:

Their own fancy degrees are proof of their superior intelligence, which in turn is the foundation of their title to rule. Intelligence is not simply a matter of ability but also of opinions and tastes: smart people all think the same way about the most important things because to be smart is to understand, and to understand is to agree. Therefore those who disagree are either dumb or—if obviously intelligent in a raw-horsepower way—crazy…. [T]he ruling class makes a desultory effort to find outsider talent—especially from “protected classes”—to welcome into the ranks. That way they can deny the otherwise obvious, and grave, charge that they are a self-perpetuating closed caste…. But mostly the ruling class replenishes itself from within…. Harvard today has a legacy admissions rate of nearly 30 percent…. This is the ruling class taking care of its own. For all the paeans to “diversity,” this is what it’s really all about. As the dean of Harvard College…explained when challenged on why upper-income students outnumber poorer kids six-to-one, “We’re not trying to mirror the socioeconomic or income distribution of the United States.” …[N]ext in line are promising members of certain demographic groups…by far the most underserved demographic on elite campuses are rural and red-state whites—a fact confirmed by simply comparing National Merit Scholarship data (a record of the highest-achieving high school seniors every year) with elite college admission rates by race and region.

This ruling class wants, above all, to insulate itself from competition. Hence, not only does it allow access to its ranks only to non-threatening, somewhat inferior successors, it does its best to denature, defang, and dishearten the ruled. Anton observes:

The current porn-drug tsunami is an evil much too great and deliberate to be called a failure. Its purpose is to deaden you—to drain you of any sense of dignity, self-worth, fighting spirit, or inner belief that you are worthy of respect. Above all, it’s to render you unwilling to stand up and demand—to fight for—what you’re owed as a human being and citizen.

Holding together its own subordinates, controlling its instruments—its hands and feet—is an even bigger concern for the ruling class. Anton examines this problem from a novel angle. Instead of asking what the heads of the class can do to control their several presumed demographic components—blacks, unmarried women, bureaucrats, etc.—he asks what motivates all their members. In each and in all of these demographics, some just “want stuff,” others are committed to “woke” ideological agendas, and yet others simply want to avenge their hate. The heads of the class have bet that they can satisfy all these motivations by giving just enough to each in order to keep them in line while they enjoy the perquisites of power. But then Anton asks:

Even if the ruling class can, Brazil-like, retreat behind walls, gates, helicopter pads, and armed guards to spare themselves actual violence, what happens to the surrounding economy on which their wealth and status depend? What happens when and if the Freeloaders are fully fed? Wokerati enthusiasm fully indulged? Avenger animosities taken to their logical extremes?

This is the subject of Chapters 6 and 7.

But before we get there, Anton gives us a remarkable chapter on how thoroughly latter-day immigration has scrambled all things American. His point is that the past half-century’s immigration—very differently from our prior policy—seems to have been intended to do just that. This, he argues, not only degrades ordinary Americans’ lives, it also throws a wild card into the ruling class’s own plans for control—of which their approach to immigration is arguably the key element. In short, the ruling class has unleashed a bunch of tigers on America, which for now it is riding. Whether and for how long it can stay on their backs and not end up in their bellies is an open question. This is true, Anton ably shows, whether present trends continue (the subject of Chapter 6) or even if they don’t (Chapter 7). He has already left no doubt that the odds are stacked in favor of the ruling class continuing its dismantling of America as we knew it—that for most of us the result is likely to be worse than California with lousy weather. With these two chapters he turns his attention to how the odds might play out in the face of problems with the rulers’ own constituencies or with resistance by conservatives.

Had he conceived these chapters once the ruling class’s mid-2020 offensive had flourished, the turbo-charging effect that this offensive has had on ruling class constituencies might well have convinced him to collapse them into one because it is now beyond anyone’s capacity more or less gently to ride the past decades’ trends to total power. Even if increased ruling class power were to augment rather than diminish the U.S. economy’s capacity to deliver more “stuff” to the rulers’ “freeloaders”; even if the rulers could fulfill every woke fantasy yet uttered, or hurt every known conservative, the freeloaders now so accustomed to taking could not stay sated, and new awokenings would conjure new fantasies. The destruction of enemies has never failed to whet the insatiable appetite for more. At this point, policing their own would require our rulers to be copies of Stalin. They don’t have the grit for that.

They do not believe they have to worry about controlling their own violent troops because they are sure that they have nothing to fear from conservatives. That is because conservatives have continued to believe that the United States’s institutions and those who run them retain legitimacy. Conservative complaisance made possible a half-century of Progressive rule’s abuse. The War on Poverty ended up enriching its managers while expanding the underclass that voted for them. The civil rights movement ended up entitling a class of diversity managers to promote their friends and ruin their opponents. The environmental movement ended up empowering the very same wealthy, powerful folks while squeezing the rest of America into cookie cutter living and paying inflated energy prices. The feminist movement delivered divorce and abortion—far from benefiting women, it has made millions dependent on ruling class favor. The COVID-19 pandemic has had almost nothing to do with public health and almost everything to do with separating, impoverishing, and disconnecting people inclined to vote against the ruling class. As leftist judges rule, conservatives respond by appointing judges who pledge not to rule. As leftist governors establish their brand of effective sovereignty by decree, conservative ones obey court orders. So long as, and to the degree that, the illusion of legitimacy stands—so long as the Right obeys while the Left disobeys and commands—there is no end to what the Left can do because there is so little that conservatives do to fight back.

But, as Michael Anton reminds us, things that can’t go on indefinitely almost surely won’t. The combination of the ruling class constituents’ fired-up insatiability, the rulers’ inability to control them, and the limits of conservative Americans’ patience is sure to cause a crisis that ends up in some kind of “Caesarism” of the Left or the Right.

Speculating on what such a crisis might be is not terribly useful because revolutionary scenarios are really all alike, and have been described countless times in similar terms: All sides are readier than they know to pursue their desires by dispensing with order. Something happens that inflames one side and challenges the other. Somebody gets killed. All bets are off.

Consider the 2020 election. In July, the Democratic National Committee engaged some 600 lawyers to litigate the outcome, possibly in every state. No particular outcome of such litigations is needed to set off a systemic crisis. The existence of the litigations themselves is enough for one or more blue state governors to refuse to certify that state’s electors to the Electoral College, so as to prevent the college from recording a majority of votes for the winner. In case no winner could be confirmed by January’s Inauguration Day, the 20th Amendment provides that Congress would elect the next president. Who doubts that, were Donald Trump the apparent winner, and were Congress in Democratic hands, that this would be likelier than not to happen?

Before or afterward, were conservatives not unanimously to roll over, and were a few incidents to result in loss of life and conflict between police forces on opposite sides of the affairs, America might well experience an explosion of pent-up rage less like the American Civil War of the 19th century and more like the horror that bled Spain in the 20th.

This review is a special preview of the forthcoming Fall 2020 issue of the Claremont Review of Books.

Angelo M. Codevilla is a senior fellow of the Claremont Institute and professor emeritus of International Relations at Boston University. 

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Re: 2020 Presidential election, who wins?
« Reply #828 on: September 03, 2020, 06:03:56 AM »
Biden: "Do I look like a radical socialist?"    - Honestly Joe, you look like the photo your wife pointed to when you went under the plastic surgeon knife.  Does AOC look like a radical socialist?  Did Hugo Chavez?  Do you really want us to judge you by your looks?  Even with all the work done, you will be older on your first day than President Reagan was on his last day.  Would you like to go over all the things Democrats said about him as he aged?

Biden said on Monday:  “I condemn violence of every kind by anyone, whether on the left or the right,”
https://issuesinsights.com/2020/09/02/heres-how-we-know-biden-isnt-sincere-about-condemning-violence/

Strange that for all four days of the Democrat convention, he didn't.  They didn't.  Instead he picked a running mate that directly supported the violence verbally and financially.

Skin in the game:  Biden still leads significantly in the polls but Trump just passed Biden up with the betting odds in Vegas.

If it's a toss up now, who wins in November?  The facts favor Trump.  The debates favor Trump.  The recovering economy favors Trump.  The improvements on the virus front favor Trump.  The ideological overdose of the Democratic Party favors Trump.  The videos of Leftists burning buildings favors Trump.  The rising approval rate among black Americans favors Trump.  Campaign internal polling favors Trump (or why would Biden be condemning violence and traveling to Pittsburgh, Kenosha).  The Middle East peace agreement favors Trump.  His strength standing up to China favors Trump.  Likewise for Iran.  All these economic, domestic and foreign policy issues feed into the trouble Biden will face in the debates, even if he can show up coherent and full strength.  He can't defend his record, or match his opponents'.
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Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #829 on: September 03, 2020, 06:26:03 AM »
"Biden still leads significantly in the polls but Trump just passed Biden up with the betting odds in Vegas."

The new insurance policy :

mail in ballot fraud

while the MSM calls this some conspiracy fake news theory

already debunked by Don the Lemon et al.

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2020 Presidential election, Race is tightening, 27% black support
« Reply #830 on: September 04, 2020, 06:35:28 AM »
It's still Biden's race to lose, as they say.   Lots of polls show him still leading.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/dead-heat-trump-erases-bidens-8-point-lead-in-pennsylvania-as-black-voters-abandon-democrat

Also, the 27% Trump black support changes the dynamic of the race. 

The Democrats are known for their massive get out the vote efforts in urban areas and vote harvesting.  If you assume the people who strongly support Biden or strongly oppose Trump already voted, the last days of getting out the vote are bringing people to the polls who might vote either way this year, instead of people who historically voted 98% Democrat.  This changes everything IMHO.

Nate Silver rates the race a tossup if Biden wins the popular vote by 2-3%.  Hillary won the popular vote by 2.2%.  Trump is consistently polling ahead of where he was in 2016 at this time.  And Biden is at least as prone as anyone alive to committing unforced errors.

Most polls call registered voters at this point.  Rasmussen polls 'likely voters'.

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Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #831 on: September 04, 2020, 06:38:40 AM »
Very promising news about the black vote.


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WP picks faux Republicans what they think will be scenerios after the election
« Reply #833 on: September 04, 2020, 03:23:05 PM »
at least 2 get money from the Left to bash Trump
while the third one lost big to Rand Paul and is a no namer:

https://dailycaller.com/2020/09/03/washington-post-op-ed-american-prepare-war-election-night-2020-donald-trump-joe-biden/

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Re: 2020 Presidential election, Kamala, fracking?
« Reply #834 on: September 07, 2020, 03:46:00 PM »
Have we always been at war with Eastasia?
Their core principle is not the environment, the economy or honesty.

Yes I'll Flipflop with Joe, or is it lie to get elected.

https://pjmedia.com/election/matt-margolis/2020/09/07/kamala-harris-flip-flops-on-fracking-after-polls-tighten-in-pennsylvania-n899077

They don't care what they have to say to get elected.



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ridiculous
« Reply #837 on: September 08, 2020, 04:16:13 AM »
Griffin cited two anonymous former “senior” U.S. officials in her reporting, saying they confirmed “key parts” of The Atlantic‘s story. However, she added that the sources could not confirm “the most salacious” part.

 wait a  second, two people who state the President made comments are suddenly unimpeachable ?

and no mention of clarifying what is "key parts" or "the most salacious"

this is total double talk

https://dogbrothers.com/phpBB2/index.php?action=post;topic=2647.800;last_msg=128277


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Re: 2020 Presidential election, biden v. Trump battleground states, Politico
« Reply #838 on: September 08, 2020, 05:55:57 AM »
"a lightning-in-a-bottle victory over a fatally flawed opponent".   - Hindsight, 'unexpected' win in Michigan 2016, Tim Alberta, Politico.  Depending on how it turns out now, wouldn't you say the exact same thing - after the fact.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/08/swing-states-2020-presidential-election-409000

Oops, what happened to Iowa and Ohio, no longer battleground, having nothing specific to do with Iowa and Ohio.  Doesn't that mean advantage Trump in neighboring states with similarities, MN, WI, MI and PA. Obama also won Indiana.  How come Biden doesn't try to win that one back?  Because the heart of the Midwest is already lost?  Won't picking a San Francisco liberal running mate, furthest Left Senator, help win it back?  Slow Joe thought California was the battleground.
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WSJ: Will the Courts Pick the Next President?
« Reply #841 on: September 08, 2020, 01:47:55 PM »
third

Will Courts Pick the Next President?
If the election is close, the fallout could make Bush v. Gore look like an ice-cream social.
By The Editorial Board
Sept. 7, 2020 6:44 pm ET


Georgia’s voting deadline is unambiguous: Absentee ballots are due when the polls close on Election Day. Late arrivals are meant to be set aside, stored, and eventually destroyed without being opened. That’s what state law says, and the way to protect democratic legitimacy in an anxious age is to run elections by the book.

But in the Twilight Zone of 2020, everything is apparently up for grabs. Last Monday a federal judge issued a preliminary injunction that orders Georgia officials to count all ballots postmarked by Election Day, even if they don’t show up until three days later. The suit was filed by the New Georgia Project, a group founded by Democrat Stacey Abrams. The judge expressed a reluctance to “interfere with Georgia’s statutory election machinery,” but she concluded that “the risk of disenfranchisement is great.”


Similar litigation is taking place across the country. Pennsylvania’s Supreme Court last Tuesday accepted a lawsuit filed by the state Democratic Party, and officials suggested last month in a separate case that ballots be counted if they arrive by Nov. 6, even if the postmark is missing or illegible. In Ohio, the League of Women Voters is challenging the process for verifying signatures. Minnesota has waived its rule that absentee ballots must be signed by a witness, and the state Supreme Court is weighing an appeal of that suspension, brought by President Trump’s campaign.

If the presidential election is decided by a whisker, with Donald Trump or Joe Biden leading by some thousands of votes in a few states, a court ruling could prove decisive. The pivotal jurisdictions will be flooded with Republican and Democratic lawyers, and the resulting chaos could resemble the 2000 Florida recount, with smudged postmarks as the new hanging chads.


The simple fact is that mass mail voting introduces slack into the election system. Unrealistic deadlines are one problem. For an election held on Nov. 3, voters in 10 states can request an absentee ballot on Nov. 2, according to a report last week by the U.S. Postal Service’s inspector general. During this year’s primary season, the audit says, more than a million ballots were sent to voters in the seven days before an election, placing them “at high risk” of tardiness.

The Postal Service audit describes how seven USPS processing centers performed from April through June. About 8% of identifiable election and political mail, or 1.6 million pieces, was delivered late. Don’t blame the new Postmaster General, Louis DeJoy: He took over June 15.

Some states try to factor in delays by counting ballot stragglers, up to 10 days late in Ohio, as long as they’re postmarked by Election Day. Alas, the audit finds that “ballots are not always being postmarked as required.” Other hangups abound: A Michigan voting envelope was printed without an address for the correct elections office, which “caused the ballot to be returned to the voter.” Ballots can also be rejected by local workers, who eyeball a voter’s signature to see if it matches the version on file.

In this year’s primaries, according to a tally by NPR, 558,032 absentee votes were tossed out. Al Gore won the nationwide popular vote in 2000 by 543,895. The discarded ballots this spring included 23,196 in Wisconsin, a state Mr. Trump won last time by 22,748. Some states give voters a week, or 14 days in Illinois, to “cure” bad signatures. Yet a study of Florida in 2018 found that mail-vote rejection rates were twice as high for black as for white voters.

The finagling over late ballots and messy signatures might stall the reporting of credible results. About a dozen states, including Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania, don’t begin processing absentee votes until Election Day, per the National Conference of State Legislatures. In the absence of a partisan skew, this might not matter. But a recent Journal poll says that 66% of Trump supporters intend to vote in person, compared with 26% of Biden backers.

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On election night, the electoral map might suggest a solid lead for Mr. Trump that is eroded as mail ballots are canvassed. What if Mr. Trump reprises his tweet from six days after Florida’s 2018 elections? “An honest vote count is no longer possible—ballots massively infected. Must go with Election Night!” Remember Hillary Clinton’s advice this summer: “Joe Biden should not concede under any circumstances, because I think this is going to drag out.”

The fight would probably drag out in the courts. Say it’s mid-November, and absentee ballots are being counted in a key state. Although Mr. Trump retains a modest lead, mail votes are breaking 3 to 1 for Mr. Biden. Perhaps the law in this jurisdiction requires ballots to arrive by Election Day, so there’s a pile to the side of thousands of late deliveries. Some are missing postmarks, and it’s not clear when they were mailed. Thousands more have been discarded for suspect signatures, but the rejection rates are higher in urban areas.

The best way to prevent this democratic debacle is to act before things get that far. If states tighten ballot deadlines now and prepare to process mail votes before Election Day, it would cut the risk of an outcome that causes half the country to claim it’s illegitimate. With each lawsuit that puts the count into the hands of judges, this nightmare gets more likely.

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2020 Presidential election, The early Biden vote dilemma
« Reply #842 on: September 10, 2020, 06:26:10 AM »
In swing state North Carolina, ballots have already been mailed out to voters.  I assume that means they are already being mailed back completed in right now.

Biden folks want the early vote and the mail in vote.  One advantage with that:  What if voters see Slow Joe implode in the debates on on the trail.  They have already voted and can't change their vote.  On the flip side, what if Biden really does implode, is recognized as incapacitated in one way or another and they have to change the names on the ballot.  Those votes become no good and unchangeable (IMHO).  Their ballot does not say current nominee or assigns.

Democrats have about one minute left to change their nominee, or maybe it is too late already if say 1% of North Carolina has already voted.

This happened in a MN Governor race.  Republicans replaced a troubled nominee with one week to go.  I was leaving the country on business and couldn't vote absentee until they announced the running mate. The ticket wasn't set until Saturday before the Tuesday election, and they won.  A write-in vote without the running mate named correctly is not a counted ballot.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1990_Minnesota_gubernatorial_election

It could be the running mate that has the problem.  Think Thomas Eagleton or the way Spiro Agnew left so suddenly.  Kamala Harris isn't so clean or fully vetted either. What if a problem with her suddenly arises?  Then every early Biden Harris vote cast becomes a wasted vote.  Try to vote again and you are committing a felobny

Someone (Trump) should warn Biden proponents they should wait until the last minute to vote in case this, God forbid, happens.
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2020 Presidential, Biden losing ground with (Miami) Hispanics
« Reply #843 on: September 10, 2020, 07:30:54 AM »
Biden losing ground with Hispanics?
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article245495835.html

Biden leads Trump in Miami-Dade by 17 points.
Hillary won Miami-Dade by 30 points - and lost Florida.

“If you’re the Biden campaign, looking at these numbers, I think there’s reason for pause,” said Fernand Amandi, the Miami-based pollster and Democratic strategist behind the poll. “If Biden under-performs in what should be one of his strongest counties — and is certainly the largest county for Democratic votes in the state of Florida — it might imperil his chances of winning Florida unless there is a massive white voter exodus from Trump in other parts of the state.”

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Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #844 on: September 10, 2020, 11:48:11 AM »
Florida Latinos are heavily Cuban with strong anti-commie tendencies.

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Re: 2020 Presidential election
« Reply #846 on: September 13, 2020, 03:59:27 PM »
Florida Latinos are heavily Cuban with strong anti-commie tendencies.

Cuban Yes.  Also Puerto Rican and Colombian:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispanics_and_Latinos_in_Florida
Hispanics                        5,809,000
Cuban Origin            26% 1,528,000   
Colombian Origin      18% 1,023,000
Puerto Rican Origin   16%    936,000
Mexican Origin          11%    634,000
Other Hispanic Origin 29%  1,688,000

Population of Florida          21.5 million,  27% considered Hispanic.

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2020 Presidential election, Sept-Oct Surprises
« Reply #847 on: September 13, 2020, 04:20:19 PM »
Predictions for events coming before the election:
1.  Trump brokered peace agreement between Saudi and Israel.
2.  Trade agreement Between US and Britain.
3.  Record in percentage and numbers, GDP growth 3rd quarter.
4.  Unemployment back to single digits.
5.  Coronavirus vaccine, reasonably available.
6.  Durham indictments.
7.  Federal Antifa arrests.

I saw lousy poll numbers for Trump on Sunday shows today.  Various states, also who would handle coronavirus better, Biden or Trump.  Biden leads.  What do they call that, to win the early September polls, a pyrrhic victory or just no victory at all? Joe Biden was leading right before people got to know Joe Biden. If the election were held today, call it a tie.  Biden leads in the polling by about the amount of the polling error.  If his lead is for good reason, then it will expand and come true.  But we know better.  Joe Biden doesn't have better character.  Doesn't choose his words more carefully.  Isn't more skilled politically.  And facts don't support his stands and policies.  More things like the Woodward book will come out, but nothing to match the events above.

Trump will grow us better out of this than Biden.  100% of the people know that.  51% already admit it.  It should become more and more clear down the stretch.



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CNN : very "important" thing
« Reply #848 on: September 15, 2020, 05:17:48 AM »
woodward concludes Trump is not the right man for the job.

why anyone or certainly a Republican President give an interview with Woodward is beyond me.

Just as I feared post RNC convention.

Trump starts tweeting opening his mouth and brings his personality right back front and center:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/14/politics/bob-woodward-60-minutes-rage/index.html

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Re: CNN : very "important" thing
« Reply #849 on: September 15, 2020, 05:51:44 AM »
woodward concludes Trump is not the right man for the job.

why anyone or certainly a Republican President give an interview with Woodward is beyond me.

Just as I feared post RNC convention.

Trump starts tweeting opening his mouth and brings his personality right back front and center:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/14/politics/bob-woodward-60-minutes-rage/index.html

The breaking news is that a lifelong Democrat journalist doesn't support the Republican incumbent: OMG!

"Yes. I say the President is the wrong man for the job."

Yes, Trump expressed optimism in the face of a deadly pandemic.  And he brought with him on camera the most trusted experts to answer unlimited questions for the American people on all that was known each day..
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