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Chris Christie is in
« Reply #500 on: May 30, 2023, 02:21:46 PM »
https://nypost.com/2023/05/30/chris-christie-eases-into-2024-prez-campaign-with-super-pac/

the Rubles , Yen , and Rials should be flowing in non stop  :roll:

I suspect 330 million pairs of eyeballs are rolling about now with the news

his only know NJ supporters are his family - I think


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Re: Chris Christie is in
« Reply #502 on: May 30, 2023, 08:31:58 PM »
I think America needs a president that eats an entire lasagna for breakfast every day.

https://nypost.com/2023/05/30/chris-christie-eases-into-2024-prez-campaign-with-super-pac/

the Rubles , Yen , and Rials should be flowing in non stop  :roll:

I suspect 330 million pairs of eyeballs are rolling about now with the news

his only know NJ supporters are his family - I think

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Re: 2024
« Reply #503 on: May 31, 2023, 03:31:49 PM »
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How Ron DeSantis can win, Part 2
And why - even if he CAN'T win - this is the path he should take
ALEX BERENSON
MAY 31

 
The national mood is bleak. American defeats are piling up:

Military humiliation in west Asia. Soaring budget deficits and inflation. Rising crime and acceptance of antisocial behavior and drug use. In the White House, an ineffective Democratic president challenged by a Kennedy.

But the answer comes from somewhere else, from a Sunshine State governor named Ronald - despised by the elite media but popular at home.



The parallels between 1979 and 2023 are eerie.

And if Ron DeSantis wants to be the next President, he needs to get his inspiration somewhere other than Donald Trump.

He needs to channel the spirit of Ronald Reagan.

DeSantis will never have Reagan’s charisma.

But Reagan had weaknesses too. He was skewered as an intellectual lightweight, and for all his charm and presence, he wasn’t exactly likable, much less relatable. He was too much of an old-school movie star to be the guy you’d imagine having over for a beer. George W. Bush and Bill Clinton passed that test much better.

No, Reagan won because he so clearly believed in America’s promise - and because he’d lived it, and he’d run a state that embodied it.

(MAGA, Reagan-style.)
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Re: 2024
« Reply #504 on: May 31, 2023, 04:31:43 PM »
Pure boomer nostalgia pandering there.

If only things were only as bad as during Carter…


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How Ron DeSantis can win, Part 2
And why - even if he CAN'T win - this is the path he should take
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The national mood is bleak. American defeats are piling up:

Military humiliation in west Asia. Soaring budget deficits and inflation. Rising crime and acceptance of antisocial behavior and drug use. In the White House, an ineffective Democratic president challenged by a Kennedy.

But the answer comes from somewhere else, from a Sunshine State governor named Ronald - despised by the elite media but popular at home.



The parallels between 1979 and 2023 are eerie.

And if Ron DeSantis wants to be the next President, he needs to get his inspiration somewhere other than Donald Trump.

He needs to channel the spirit of Ronald Reagan.



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DeSantis will never have Reagan’s charisma.

But Reagan had weaknesses too. He was skewered as an intellectual lightweight, and for all his charm and presence, he wasn’t exactly likable, much less relatable. He was too much of an old-school movie star to be the guy you’d imagine having over for a beer. George W. Bush and Bill Clinton passed that test much better.

No, Reagan won because he so clearly believed in America’s promise - and because he’d lived it, and he’d run a state that embodied it.

(MAGA, Reagan-style.)

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Re: 2024
« Reply #505 on: May 31, 2023, 05:30:21 PM »
".And if Ron DeSantis wants to be the next President, he needs to get his inspiration somewhere other than Donald Trump.

He needs to channel the spirit of Ronald Reagan."

ME ->
agree for the general election
not sure if this applied to the primacy since we have so many obsessed MAGA heads who are in love with their God.

" But Reagan had weaknesses too. He was skewered as an intellectual lightweight"

ME ->

yes he was mistakenly skewered for this by the Democrats but he had high intellect and very well read .

" If only things were only as bad as during Carter…"

Me ->
 
totally agree . while in the late 70s we though we were in trouble it was NOTHING like the very deep doo doo we are in now
anyone alive at the time would agree with me.

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What a schmuck
« Reply #506 on: June 01, 2023, 04:19:37 AM »


The Trump-Cuomo Covid Bromance
The once mortal enemies unite to distort Florida’s success.
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May 31, 2023 6:39 pm ET


The 2024 presidential race is already wild, and the strangest moment so far may be the mutual Covid admiration society of Donald Trump and former New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo. In 2020 they were mortal political enemies, but now they’re uniting to praise their performance in order to trash the far better Covid judgment and governance of Ron DeSantis in Florida.


Mr. Trump will say anything to hurt the Sunshine State Governor now running against him for President. Last week he said in a video posted on Truth Social: “How about the fact that he had the third most deaths of any state having to do with the China virus or Covid? Even Cuomo did better, he was number four.”

Mr. Cuomo returned the compliment on Tuesday from his political exile, tweeting that “Donald Trump tells the truth, finally. New York got hit first and worst but New Yorkers acted responsibly. Florida’s policy of denial allowed Covid to spread and that’s why they had a very large second wave.”

Where to begin? The media feted Mr. Cuomo for his handling of Covid in 2020, but his harsh lockdowns continue to have baleful effects on the state’s economy as its recovery lags. We also know Mr. Cuomo made a literally fatal March 2020 decision to admit Covid patients to nursing homes. His administration then tried to fudge the number of nursing-home deaths from Covid.

In sharp contrast, Mr. DeSantis demonstrated true leadership. To the extent Florida had a second Covid “wave” during the summer of 2020, it was because it never had a big first wave in the spring.

Despite having a higher proportion of elderly citizens who were more vulnerable, Mr. DeSantis resisted Anthony Fauci and the media to keep his state’s schools and economy going. He lifted the lockdown in May 2020 and removed all restrictions on business capacity in September. That autumn he fought the teachers union in court to reopen schools far earlier than most states did.

Mr. Trump’s claim about Florida’s relative Covid deaths is a distortion. Florida had more total deaths than New York, but Florida’s population is older and thus more vulnerable to Covid. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reports that age-adjusted deaths were 245 per 100,000 residents for Florida against 311.5 for New York.

Mr. Trump is trying to deflect from his own Covid record and his Administration’s year-long deference to Dr. Fauci. “Fifteen days to slow the spread” of Covid in March 2020 turned into months of bowing to the healthcare and media clerisy on closing schools and keeping much of the economy shut down. The damage from lost learning and livelihoods has been horrific and paved the way for Joe Biden’s election victory in 2020.

The Trump-Cuomo Covid bromance would be hilarious if it weren’t so deceitful. It’s a lesson for Republican primary voters in what they’ll get again if they renominate the former President who never sidelined Dr. Fauci.

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political groupie
« Reply #507 on: June 01, 2023, 01:23:36 PM »
states no time for a rookie

https://www.newsmax.com/politics/kimberly-guilfoyle-trump-2024/2023/06/01/id/1122021/

No,
we need screw up who has proven he can never get over 45%
who can never adapt or improve
and has been perennial loser past 3 elections
and has more baggage then a Saudi Prince

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DeSantis
« Reply #509 on: June 02, 2023, 07:04:47 AM »
I am not sure of his strategy of shadowing Trump on everything

I get he is trying to win over MAGA for the primary

but I feel he needs to stand on his own and prove he can win over independents
and trounce the Democrat

the argument he has better chance of winning is greater (in my HO)
then simply saying he is just a better version of "Trump" .




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Re: 2024
« Reply #510 on: June 02, 2023, 06:40:05 PM »
Much of the country does not really know him.  I am OK with him coming on smoothly instead of with fireworks.

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Re: 2024
« Reply #511 on: June 03, 2023, 02:56:41 AM »
Want the Next President to be a Republican? Steer Clear of Trump
What is the goal of a political battle?

By Carpe Diem
June 1, 2023
Current polling indicates that Donald Trump is likely to become the Republican nominee for the third time. But he does not appear to have a realistic path to the White House.

To win the presidency, Trump will need to convince Americans who are not fervently in his camp, as well as independents and other non Republicans to vote for him. That is no easy task for an individual who has managed to alienate virtually everyone who is not part of the MAGA faithful.

If Trump is the Republican nominee again in 2024, he will likely win few Democrat voters. Even independents fed up with Joe Biden’s failures and utter incompetence are unlikely to choose Trump in the general election.

Despite Trump’s many successes while in the White House, voters seem to have grown tired of his self-serving, narcissistic character, and petulant behavior. Making matters worse, unlike Democratic voters, Republicans are less likely to vote for the GOP nominee, especially one as polarizing as Trump.


And while many voters believe that Trump was cheated out of a second term, it does the Republican Party no favors to nominate him, only to have him lose to a feeble and often confused man, or to whichever radical leftist the Democrats decide to throw out there.

A primary victory followed by what is likely to be an inevitable loss in the general election will not only be a huge blow to the former president, it will also be a blow to the future of America.

What is the goal of a political battle?

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Is it to win knowing that the battle is the wrong one to win and will lead to losing the war? Where is the evidence that Trump can win the general election? Several polls—for whatever they’re worth—indicate that if the election were held today, Biden would still defeat Trump in several battleground states, while Florida Governor Ron DeSantis would defeat Biden in those same polls.

If past precedent is any indication, DeSantis has a far greater shot of picking up Democratic and independent voters in a general election than Trump. Consider that in the 2022 Florida gubernatorial election, DeSantis won independent voters by at least 20 percent—a 30-point bump in ballot share from his narrow victory in 2018. He won Hispanic voters by at least 14 percent—a 22-point increase in ballot share from 2018 and the highest share of the nonwhite vote for a Republican in Florida history. And perhaps most impressively, DeSantis won female voters by at least 7 percent—a 16-point increase in ballot share from 2018.

DeSantis also flipped seven counties from blue to red, including Miami-Dade, where the governor’s 11.3-point margin of victory was the highest for any Republican candidate for governor.

Who’s to say DeSantis couldn’t do what he did in Florida, on a national level?

Are independents—let alone disenchanted Democrats—clamoring for a second Trump term? How well did Trump’s Senate and congressional candidates do in November compared to DeSantis’ historic, nearly 20-point landslide victory? How many prominent members of Trump’s administration are even lukewarm supporters? One hundred-fifty former Trump officials have already endorsed DeSantis.

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Trump accomplished many good things as president, at least several that other Republican presidents probably would not have accomplished. He and his team nominated excellent Supreme Court justices, helped to establish the Abraham Accords, removed barriers to vaccine development that hastened the delivery of admittedly controversial vaccines (autocratic enforcement of mandates was not his fault), cut taxes and regulations, focused on improving American energy production capabilities, and reduced illegal immigration, etc.

The current president has already reversed or prevented advancement of these accomplishments. Considering, however, that Trump has already broken the barriers that facilitated the above listed accomplishments, it is likely that the next Republican president, if not Trump, will return most of his successful policies, including finishing the wall and initiating new programs that the country needs.

In any event, Trump’s likely loss in the general election will lead to further and possibly irreversible damage. How much time does the country have to end the state controlled transition away from fossil fuels? A government that could not implement the three major steps of the Afghanistan withdrawal has no chance at all of implementing the hundreds of thousands of steps required to eliminate fossil fuels in 20 to 30 years, but it sure will be able to generate massive chaos, poverty, and very likely famine.

Additionally, Trump seems to be moving left on abortion and entitlement reform, so there is no guarantee that if elected he will continue some of his prior conservative policies.

Not voting for Trump in the primary will not only save our republic, but it will also help Trump.

Following a Republican presidential victory, likely accompanied by the election of a Republican Senate and House, it will be more likely that Congress will be able to conduct effective hearings into the way that the current chief executive and Congress unlawfully investigated Trump, hunting for crimes and when not finding them, inventing them.

On the other hand, if the Democrats reclaim all of Congress and retain the presidency, the attacks on Trump will likely continue and he will never be vindicated. In addition, their success in destroying him and his associates will further encourage them to use the same tactics on other Republicans.


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Sununu out
« Reply #513 on: June 05, 2023, 10:43:49 AM »
Sununu goes on with Dana Bash to give her [ :x] the scoop that he is out


https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2023/06/05/nh-gov-sununu-i-will-not-run-for-president-in-2024/

Republicans should only go on CNN if they ARE READY FOR WAR not to play nice

I am ok for Haley going on there - because at least the part I saw was with a supportive crowd

though they have their panel of Axeldouches on to find ways to nitpick at her.
{abortion , abortion , abortion...)
But she apparently did well enough she shut most of them down.

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Trump can still run if convicted
« Reply #514 on: June 06, 2023, 05:30:11 AM »
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/04/06/trump-running-for-president-prison-00090931

what a mess he puts us through .

why didn't he just give back the damn documents - but no he had to be a pain in the ass - he just has to be a hard ass for the sake of being a hard ass

that said of course , the leftist lawfare applying rules of law different for him is even more outrageous
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Cal Thomas fed up with Trump too
« Reply #515 on: June 06, 2023, 05:22:14 PM »
agree with almost all of this :

https://townhall.com/columnists/calthomas/2023/06/06/trump-never-changes-n2624086

I hate to say it but Nikki Haley would have a better chance of beating any Democrat than would Trump

That said, I prefer DeSantis.




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Re: 2024
« Reply #516 on: June 06, 2023, 05:53:27 PM »
I can readily imagine that some of the documents are cards for him to play in certain eventualities.

Cal Thomas makes a some good points and some seriously unfair ones.

Nikki Haley is a Bush type Republican.  Certainly a number of good points, but not what we are looking for.   Major props for her though for saying a vote for Biden is a vote for President Harris.


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NRo: Pence
« Reply #517 on: June 07, 2023, 09:26:02 PM »
Mike Pence’s Leap of Faith

Former vice president Mike Pence speaks at the Calvin Coolidge Foundation’s conference at the Library of Congress in Washington, D.C., February 16, 2023(Anna Moneymaker/Getty Images)
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June 7, 2023 6:30 AM
Mike Pence is the latest entrant to the 2024 presidential race. He is a good man, a solid conservative, and as qualified and prepared for the job as anyone in the field, including the current and former president. He undoubtedly would make a fine president. His challenge is the current political environment, and the current Republican presidential field. Much will be asked of him to overcome those hurdles.

Pence brings with him a long-standing commitment to solid Reaganite principles, a deep and public Christian faith, and a wealth of experience. He has been a talk-radio host, a congressman, a member of House leadership, the governor of Indiana, and the vice president. He is a full-spectrum conservative on social, economic, and national-security issues. He is inclined to be a voice for fiscal sanity on entitlements and spending that has been woefully lacking during the past three Republican presidencies.

Pence was an immeasurable asset to Donald Trump in 2016 and in the White House, as his ambassador to social conservatives, the guarantor of his Supreme Court nominee list, and a steady presence behind the scenes of Trump’s administration. He deserves a measure of the credit for the successes of that administration.

He also deserves the nation’s gratitude for his courage in standing up to Trump on January 6 and rejecting the crackpot constitutional theory that Pence was empowered by himself to reject state slates of electors. For this, he was thanked by a pro-Trump mob chanting that he ought to be hanged. Trump remains disgracefully unrepentant about this.

Pence kept his dignity and his integrity in as trying circumstances as any vice president has faced. Trump’s harshest critics, especially those who place little value on conservative policy, blame Pence for not standing up more publicly against the president’s worst impulses during their five-year partnership. This is unfair. There is an important role to be played by the inside man who offers his counsel only in private and does his best to steer the ship of state in the right direction. When Pence was finally put to a choice between public dissent and acquiescence, he made the right call and took the slings and arrows for it.

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Pence presents a particularly stark contrast with Florida governor Ron DeSantis on how to strike the balance between state self-government and the private free-speech rights of business. Social conservatives were — rightly, in our view — alarmed when Pence, as governor of Indiana, bent to economic pressure and watered down the Religious Freedom Restoration Act he had just signed. More civil liberties–minded conservatives and libertarians have been alarmed at DeSantis’s aggressive confrontation with Disney. Pence has criticized DeSantis for overstepping the proper role of government in pressuring business. He will have to answer for his own record in allowing business to interfere with the proper role of government. This will also include his decision, under pressure from hospital lobbyists, to partake in Obamacare’s Medicaid expansion (while claiming to conservatives that he was able to do it in a free-market way).

The party deserves a serious debate on this very question between two serious men. We would like to believe it is ready for one, but the presence of Trump in the field is likely to overshadow them.

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Re: NRo: Pence
« Reply #518 on: June 07, 2023, 09:45:56 PM »
Pence is a traitorous scumbag.


Mike Pence’s Leap of Faith

Former vice president Mike Pence speaks at the Calvin Coolidge Foundation’s conference at the Library of Congress in Washington, D.C., February 16, 2023(Anna Moneymaker/Getty Images)
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Mike Pence is the latest entrant to the 2024 presidential race. He is a good man, a solid conservative, and as qualified and prepared for the job as anyone in the field, including the current and former president. He undoubtedly would make a fine president. His challenge is the current political environment, and the current Republican presidential field. Much will be asked of him to overcome those hurdles.

Pence brings with him a long-standing commitment to solid Reaganite principles, a deep and public Christian faith, and a wealth of experience. He has been a talk-radio host, a congressman, a member of House leadership, the governor of Indiana, and the vice president. He is a full-spectrum conservative on social, economic, and national-security issues. He is inclined to be a voice for fiscal sanity on entitlements and spending that has been woefully lacking during the past three Republican presidencies.

Pence was an immeasurable asset to Donald Trump in 2016 and in the White House, as his ambassador to social conservatives, the guarantor of his Supreme Court nominee list, and a steady presence behind the scenes of Trump’s administration. He deserves a measure of the credit for the successes of that administration.

He also deserves the nation’s gratitude for his courage in standing up to Trump on January 6 and rejecting the crackpot constitutional theory that Pence was empowered by himself to reject state slates of electors. For this, he was thanked by a pro-Trump mob chanting that he ought to be hanged. Trump remains disgracefully unrepentant about this.

Pence kept his dignity and his integrity in as trying circumstances as any vice president has faced. Trump’s harshest critics, especially those who place little value on conservative policy, blame Pence for not standing up more publicly against the president’s worst impulses during their five-year partnership. This is unfair. There is an important role to be played by the inside man who offers his counsel only in private and does his best to steer the ship of state in the right direction. When Pence was finally put to a choice between public dissent and acquiescence, he made the right call and took the slings and arrows for it.

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Pence presents a particularly stark contrast with Florida governor Ron DeSantis on how to strike the balance between state self-government and the private free-speech rights of business. Social conservatives were — rightly, in our view — alarmed when Pence, as governor of Indiana, bent to economic pressure and watered down the Religious Freedom Restoration Act he had just signed. More civil liberties–minded conservatives and libertarians have been alarmed at DeSantis’s aggressive confrontation with Disney. Pence has criticized DeSantis for overstepping the proper role of government in pressuring business. He will have to answer for his own record in allowing business to interfere with the proper role of government. This will also include his decision, under pressure from hospital lobbyists, to partake in Obamacare’s Medicaid expansion (while claiming to conservatives that he was able to do it in a free-market way).

The party deserves a serious debate on this very question between two serious men. We would like to believe it is ready for one, but the presence of Trump in the field is likely to overshadow them.

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« Reply #519 on: June 07, 2023, 10:01:59 PM »
Mike Pence Unloads on Trump in Campaign Kickoff: 'I Chose the Constitution'


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Mike Pence dedicated much of his campaign kickoff speech in Des Moines, Iowa on Wednesday to making the case against his former running mate, Donald Trump.

 

In explaining his rationale for running, the former vice president said that Trump, the current 2024 front-runner, disqualified himself on January 6, 2021, when he tried to pressure his vice president into overturning the results of the 2020 election.

 

 “I chose the Constitution and I always will,” Pence said to applause.

 

“I had no right to overturn the election and Kamala Harris will have no right to overturn the election when we beat them in 2024,” he continued. "I believe that anyone who puts themselves over the Constitution should never be president of the United States. And anyone who asks someone else to put themselves over the Constitution should never be president again.”

 

Pence is counting on his strong social conservative bona fides to carry him to victory in the Hawkeye State, with its large contingent of Evangelical voters. To that end, the former congressman and Indiana governor took Trump to task for abandoning the pro-life legacy they forged together while serving in the White House.

 

“The sanctity of life has been our party's calling card for half a century — long before Donald Trump was ever a part of it," Pence said. "Now he treats it as an inconvenience, even blaming election losses on overturning Roe vs. Wade."

 

Pence, by contrast, has already vowed to support a federal 15-week abortion ban.

 

He also took veiled shots at Trump and Florida governor Ron DeSantis for making their 2024 kickoff announcements elsewhere.

 

“I get why people make big announcements back home in their hometown at their resort, even on Twitter, but we wanted to be here in person in Iowa. We are here because we know that Iowa was the right place to start our engines for the great American comeback,” Pence said.

 

Pence's platform is that of a traditional Republican. “We must resist the politics of personality and the siren song of populism unmoored to conservative principles,” he said, adding that a rediscovery of the conservative values championed by President Reagan will lead Republicans to victory once more.

 

Drawing further contrasts with Trump and DeSantis, Pence declared that he is running as a fiscal conservative not afraid to tackle entitlements, a defense hawk not afraid to take on both Russia and China. The front-runners in the race have vowed not to touch entitlements and have taken a less strident tone in defense of Ukrainian sovereignty.

 

On Ukraine, both Trump and DeSantis have expressed interest in ending the war in an expedited fashion even if that means that Ukraine will have to surrender some territory to Russia. “I promise you: I know the difference between a genius and a war criminal. I know the difference between a territorial dispute and a war of aggression,” explained Pence.

 

“The war in Ukraine is not our war, but freedom is our fight and America must always stand for freedom and when I’m your president, we will,” Pence added.

 

In addition to taking his fellow Republicans to task, Pence made the case against President Joe Biden, who he accused of presiding over a decline in border security, rampant inflation, and a disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan.

 

“We’re better than this,” argued Pence.

 

The former vice president said public service is what is required of him and that is why “before God and my family, I am announcing that I am running for president.”

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Scott Walker
« Reply #520 on: June 08, 2023, 11:35:30 AM »
My Lesson for Republicans Running for President in 2024
A strong record isn’t enough. You need big, bold ideas.
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My tenure as governor of Wisconsin no doubt got me national attention in the first place. My administration took on the government union bosses and won. I inherited a $3.6 billion structural deficit and left office with a surplus. Wisconsinites experienced the full suite of successful Republican governance: reduced taxes, expanded school choice, voter-ID laws, pro-life protections, concealed carry, reformed welfare and sane universities—with amended seniority and tenure systems and frozen college tuition.

We enacted more common-sense conservative reforms than any other state in the nation. And it worked. I managed to become the first governor in U.S. history to win a recall election. Voters across the country loved that my administration didn’t back down from fights—even when 100,000 protesters occupied our state Capitol. After that, I saw massive interest in a potential run for higher office.

Naturally, that’s what I focused on when I got to the debate stage. I gave solid but safe answers that connected to my record. It wasn’t enough. Primary voters admired what I did in Wisconsin but wanted my plans for the U.S. to be as tenacious as they were during my time in office.

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In retrospect, I should have embraced risk and laid out an aggressive agenda. I wish I’d pushed ideas like a national flat tax, sending the responsibility for education back to the states and schools, work requirements for public assistance, and term limits for public service.

Without a distinguishing pitch, I blended in with many of the other candidates. The only one who really stood out was Donald Trump. Agree with him or not, everyone knew what Mr. Trump wanted to do. “Build the wall,” “lock her up” and “drain the swamp” were clear battle cries at his rallies and in his remarks during debates. He captured the attention of caucus and primary voters and ultimately that of general-election voters.

I’ve been a runner since my teen years, so it should have dawned on me sooner. Even if you’re successful enough to qualify for an event, you start the race at the same line as your competitors. Only a strong finish wins you a race.

As more candidates enter the 2024 contest, they’d do well to remember the lessons I learned the hard way. A record of strong conservative policies may get you onto the debate stage, but you must build on those successes with equally tenacious proposals to go further.

My advice to the contenders for the GOP nomination: Take a risk and lay out a bold vision for the country. Sell it directly to the voters. Anything short of that and you may well find yourself in the dust.

Mr. Walker is president of Young America’s Foundation. He served as governor of Wisconsin, 2011-19, and was a candidate for the 2016 Republican presidential nomination

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Re: 2024
« Reply #521 on: June 09, 2023, 10:46:35 AM »
https://amgreatness.com/2023/06/07/republican-attacks-on-bidens-age-arent-landing/

"If Trump has zero chance of winning as some insist, it is for reasons that would also bar any other Republican from victory in the general election: an unscrupulous, dishonest news media, a fatally broken electoral process, a weaponized legal system, and a deeply suggestible electorate."

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By Matthew Boose
June 7, 2023
Republicans have been waiting years for their attacks on Joe Biden’s advancing age to land. It’s becoming a bit of an absurd pastime. The polls say voters are aware of Biden’s feeble condition, and yet, we read that they would choose Biden again over Trump and his “mean tweets.”

The GOP smart set insists that this reflects Trump’s lack of some ambrosial quality they call “electability” (as if Biden breathes it from every pore). But, if anything, there is a rising sense of dread that Trump should not be dismissed. Trump is almost certainly going to be his party’s nominee in any event.

If Trump has zero chance of winning as some insist, it is for reasons that would also bar any other Republican from victory in the general election: an unscrupulous, dishonest news media, a fatally broken electoral process, a weaponized legal system, and a deeply suggestible electorate.

The media are still not covering Biden’s corrupt business dealing despite a stream of incriminating evidence that grows by the day. Recall, Hunter Biden’s “laptop from Hell” was kept out of the news in 2020 through coordinated skulduggery the extent of which is still being uncovered.

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If Biden received even an ounce of scrutiny Trump does, his approval ratings would drop five or 10 points overnight. But Republicans cannot depend on the tender mercies of their enemies.

Republicans would do well to focus more on Biden’s corruption than his weakness. Attacking the latter has only made a wicked hypocrite look like a victim.

It’s easy to see why this latter approach is tempting. Biden’s feebleness ought to be seen as a potent symbol of the decadence of his era. But the suggestibility of the public that was laid bare during the pandemic-induced hysteria has led many to adjust their expectations radically downward, and few have benefited more from this dynamic than Biden.

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This often gets passed over, but the big shift to mail in voting in 2020 was a mostly psychological phenomenon. It could not have happened without the legal cover of an “emergency,” but it also required the cooperation of an electorate frazzled (and lazy) enough to surrender their custody over the political process.

Has that really changed? Take a look at our current Congress, where you will find Senator John Fetterman (D-Pa.) stalking around in a hoodie and gym shorts.

A world in which Biden and Fetterman are “electable” is a world where words have no meaning.

But is this not the world toward which we are tending? What is justice in the new America? What is truth?

Our entire political system and civilization are under siege. Trump’s dramatic invocations of a “final battle” are not without merit.

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Another five years of this demoralizing spectacle will have a devastating effect on the nation’s soul, which appears to be spiraling into despair.

The malaise of the post-pandemic era would spell doom for an incumbent in other times, but the normal rules of political logic do not obtain any longer. Compared to a few short years ago, there is a powerful smell of apathy in the air. There is a sense that people hate the way things are, but have grown to accept them.

The appeals to greatness that fill Trump’s soaring rhetoric only work on people with an appreciation for beauty and excellence. The cramped moral vision of social justice and “equity” more and more defines the national character.

It’s very unlikely that Biden will be replaced, supposing fate does not intervene. Democrats brute forced his way into power once before, and they are absolutely prepared to do it again.

All the same there are reasons for cautious optimism. Biden now is an incumbent and he cannot avoid physically campaigning like he did in 2020, which will doubtless tax his body and mind.

But if Biden is somehow ejected, it won’t be because he’s fallen down too many times. The complacency we see and feel around us will have to be replaced with the kind of smoldering rage that Trump tapped into in 2016.
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Re: 2024
« Reply #522 on: June 09, 2023, 11:13:13 AM »
".If Trump has zero chance of winning as some insist, it is for reasons that would also bar any other Republican from victory in the general election: an unscrupulous, dishonest news media, a fatally broken electoral process, a weaponized legal system, and a deeply suggestible electorate."

not even close

as though/Trump has not degraded morality more and has no baggage

we are trying to get independents..

could anyone imagine how popular Trump would be if he was not flawed?

give me a break

if author states cannot win due to the LEFT which would be same outcome for any other Republican

then he should join GM in a retreat somewhere in fly over country
(no disrespect to GM whose opinions I value! and respect)

but this guy may as well go offline
why bother to fight back?

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« Reply #523 on: June 09, 2023, 11:36:46 AM »
I don't disagree with your analysis, but I do think this passage captures , , , something:

""If Trump has zero chance of winning as some insist, it is for reasons that would also bar any other Republican from victory in the general election: an unscrupulous, dishonest news media, a fatally broken electoral process, a weaponized legal system, and a deeply suggestible electorate."

The four interactive variables listed combine to substantial headwinds.

After the indictment yesterday, what is our strategy now?  To abandon Trump to the machinations of the Deep State in the hope that by so doing we have someone who will enable us to overcome an unscrupulous, dishonest news media, a fatally broken electoral process, a weaponized legal system, and a deeply suggestible electorate?

Or?

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Re: 2024
« Reply #524 on: June 09, 2023, 01:28:13 PM »
or
lose ......

for sure

unless Dem candidate is worse .......

our only hope

I am not interested in rallying around Trump
I am interested in rallying for our country our beliefs and supporting the Constitution and our country as a nation

my opinion.

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As I told you all before...
« Reply #525 on: June 09, 2023, 07:39:15 PM »
They (The Deep STATE/One true branch of the FUSA Government) WILL NEVER let Trump or ANY OTHER outsider ever hold real power in this country ever again.

https://thefederalist.com/2023/06/09/latest-trump-indictment-proves-deep-state-is-trying-to-rig-yet-another-election/

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Re: As I told you all before...
« Reply #526 on: June 09, 2023, 10:35:50 PM »
They (The Deep STATE/One true branch of the FUSA Government) WILL NEVER let Trump or ANY OTHER outsider ever hold real power in this country ever again.

https://thefederalist.com/2023/06/09/latest-trump-indictment-proves-deep-state-is-trying-to-rig-yet-another-election/

https://ace.mu.nu/archives/404824.php




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Jim Jordan on Dana Bash
« Reply #530 on: June 12, 2023, 09:14:04 AM »
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/jim-jordan-cnn-interview-over-211306150.html

Despite this evidence, Jordan, the chair of the House Judiciary Committee, insisted during his interview with Bash on CNN’s “State of the Union” that Trump had declassified the documents. When pressed for evidence by Bash, he simply insisted, “I go on the president’s word.”

“He said he declassified this material,” Jordan added. “He can put it wherever he wants and handle it however he wants.”

“But he says, point blank, on tape as president, ‘I could have declassified it. Now I can’t,'” Bash said. “He says in his own words. It’s on tape as part of this indictment that he did not declassify the material. Therefore, it is classified.”

“Dana, saying he could have is not the same as saying he didn’t,” insisted Jordan.

“But he’s saying point blank in this audio tape he did not declassify it. What you’re saying just doesn’t make sense on its face!” Bash exclaimed.

ME :  DO WE REALLY WANT TO BE DEGRADED TO THE LEVEL OF "IT DEPENDS WHAT IS IS ?"

sorry I have had enough of the stupidity

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« Reply #531 on: June 13, 2023, 12:33:54 AM »
By Newt Gingrich
June 11, 2023Updated: June 12, 2023
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The planned indictment of former President Donald Trump for “mishandling national secrets” is the natural next phase of the leftwing establishment’s arrogance and corruption.

The left has been desperately trying to stop Trump since he announced his candidacy in 2015 (recall the made-up Trump Tower–Moscow scandal, the phony Russia–Trump collusion scandal, the made-for-TV impeachment effort, etc.).

The constant attacks have only eroded Americans’ trust in government institutions—which is a far bigger problem than the left’s hatred of Trump. There are several other indictments that should have been announced to reestablish the integrity of the rule of law.

First, corrupt FBI agents such as those identified in the Durham Report should have already been indicted for extraordinary violations of their oaths of office. They lied to FISA court judges. They deliberately pursued a case they knew was based on a lie. They leaked knowingly phony information to the left-wing media to further undermine Trump—first as a candidate and then as the President of the United States. They should all face legal consequences.

Other FBI officials should be indicted for colluding to protect Hillary Clinton when she clearly broke the law repeatedly. How many classified documents were saved on then-Secretary of State Clinton’s illegal home server? How did her emails end up on Anthony Weiner’s laptop? How does someone erase more than 32,000 potentially evidentiary emails and get off scot-free? How does a government official order her staff to destroy evidentiary hard drives with a hammer and face no consequences? Further, why did the then-director of the FBI arrogate to himself a decision that belongs to prosecutors and hold a press conference exonerating Clinton during a presidential campaign?

The Durham Report makes crystal clear the FBI’s double standard of aggressive hostility toward Trump and defensive deference toward Clinton. That there have not been any indictments of Clinton (or the Bidens for that matter) demonstrates that the current corrupt senior leadership of the FBI is protecting itself and its allies—and attacking its perceived enemies.

Second, there should be a wave of indictments against the University of Pennsylvania, the University of Delaware, and other universities that have been illegally accepting secret foreign money and refusing to report it to federal authorities.

As the U.S. Department of Education website notes: “Section 117 of the Higher Education Act of 1965 (HEA) requires institutions of higher education that receive federal financial assistance to disclose semiannually to the U.S. Department of Education any gifts received from and contracts with a foreign source that, alone or combined, are valued at $250,000 or more in a calendar year. The statute also requires institutions to report information when owned or controlled by a foreign source.”

We have no idea how many millions of dollars communist China gave to the universities of Pennsylvania and Delaware (where President Joe Biden has education centers). According to estimates (which are likely low), the University of Delaware (which houses about 1,850 boxes of Biden’s vice presidential and senatorial documents) received $6.7 million in anonymous donations from the Chinese government. The University of Pennsylvania received nearly $40 million ($60 million, including contracts). Both universities—and many more—are still breaking the law and not reporting foreign money they receive.

At the same time, former University of Pennsylvania President Amy Gutmann (who also helped create the Penn Biden Center for Diplomacy and Global Engagement in Washington) became Biden’s ambassador to Germany. Former university Board of Trustees’ Chairman David L. Cohen is Biden’s ambassador to Canada.

These two became ambassadors after members of the Biden team received huge salaries from the University of Pennsylvania. At least 10 other people on the Penn Biden Center payroll ended up with senior positions in the Biden administration. This includes Secretary of State Antony Blinken. We have no idea the source of the money paid to Blinken when he managed the Penn Biden Center. Now, he’s America’s chief diplomat.

It is amazing the arrogance with which elite universities take millions from foreign sources and simply ignore the law and reject the federal government’s demands for information. The leadership of these institutions should be indicted for illegally accepting foreign money and hiding it from the public. Instead, they are more likely to become U.S. ambassadors.

Third, President Biden, Hunter Biden, and other members of the Biden family should be under indictment for influence peddling and accepting bribes.

Does anyone seriously believe the widow of the mayor of Moscow sent Hunter Biden $3.5 million out of the goodness of her heart? Did the Ukrainian natural gas firm Burisma pay Hunter Biden millions because of his expertise? Does anyone really think a Chinese billionaire sent Hunter Biden an exquisite diamond just because they are just good friends?

Chairman James Comer and the House Committee on Oversight and Accountability have produced evidence that the depth of deliberate corruption in the Biden family operation is worthy of a Hollywood blockbuster. The Bidens have created layers of phony companies as pass-throughs to hide a trail of foreign money they’ve been getting.

President Biden claims to know nothing of his son’s business dealings, but the records show then-Vice President Biden was routinely meeting with Hunter Biden’s business associates. The evidence is clear that Biden’s brother was also deeply involved in the influence-peddling scheme.

Much of this was initially reported as Hunter Biden’s laptop began to be investigated. Biden government officials immediately falsely claimed the story was Russian disinformation. Whistleblowers and potential eyewitnesses have been surfacing. Yet, after three years, there has been no action. In fact, FBI leadership insisted that the IRS disband a team that was looking into Hunter Biden and corruption.

These are the indictments that should have been announced this week. Instead, the FBI has protected the Bidens just as it protected the Clintons.

The contrast with the ruthless, dishonest, and illegal efforts to ruin President Trump is stunning.

This is the scale of corruption, bias, and lawlessness with which the American people should weigh the Trump indictments.

From Gingrich360.com

Views expressed in this article are the opinions of the author and do not necessarily reflect the views of The Epoch Times.


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Re: 2024
« Reply #536 on: June 16, 2023, 01:06:42 PM »
yes

and furthermore this is why we must win the '24 Senate, Presidential,
and increase the House margin races

I intend on voting harder

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« Reply #537 on: June 16, 2023, 01:37:17 PM »
yes

and furthermore this is why we must win the '24 Senate, Presidential,
and increase the House margin races

I intend on voting harder

 :-P

That still doesn’t work against the Dems’ “Vote early and often, especially if you are dead or an illegal alien”.

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« Reply #538 on: June 16, 2023, 01:49:46 PM »
Sounds like you want us to give up , , ,

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« Reply #539 on: June 16, 2023, 02:07:31 PM »
"That still doesn’t work against the Dems’ “Vote early and often, especially if you are dead or an illegal alien”.

Can't we find dead, or illegal alien Republicans ?

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« Reply #540 on: June 16, 2023, 03:41:04 PM »
Sounds like you want us to give up , , ,

Hardly. I just know the reality of our current situation. The country we grew up in is gone.

Nationally, we are down to the final box to vote with.


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« Reply #541 on: June 16, 2023, 03:45:17 PM »
"That still doesn’t work against the Dems’ “Vote early and often, especially if you are dead or an illegal alien”.

Can't we find dead, or illegal alien Republicans ?

 :evil:

If illegal aliens weren’t a lock for Dems, the wall would look like the one in Game of Thrones.

If we do anything the Dems do as far as vote fraud, the Feds will suddenly get really interested in vote fraud, but on us only.

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« Reply #542 on: June 16, 2023, 03:48:55 PM »
Shifting over to the Latino vote (which is NOT the same as the illegals vote!) I'm thinking the grooming, chem castration and genital mutilation of children is not real popular with Latinos.

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« Reply #543 on: June 16, 2023, 04:12:32 PM »
Shifting over to the Latino vote (which is NOT the same as the illegals vote!) I'm thinking the grooming, chem castration and genital mutilation of children is not real popular with Latinos.

It’s not, but it’s not aimed at them. It’s about the ongoing white genocide.

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« Reply #544 on: June 17, 2023, 12:16:28 AM »
I was simply making a point about our potential to increase our vote with Latinos.

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« Reply #545 on: June 17, 2023, 12:17:55 AM »
I was simply making a point about our potential to increase our vote with Latinos.

Meaningless.


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« Reply #546 on: June 17, 2023, 12:21:18 AM »
GM:

As we have covered before, everyone here is well aware of your opinion on this and at certain point (right now for example) where this simply becomes a fart at the dinner table.

By all means have at it on the electoral thread, but please knock it off here.

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« Reply #547 on: June 17, 2023, 12:24:13 AM »
GM:

As we have covered before, everyone here is well aware of your opinion on this and at certain point (right now for example) where this simply becomes a fart at the dinner table.

By all means have at it on the electoral thread, but please knock it off here.

https://tldavis.substack.com/p/a-failed-state

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« Reply #548 on: June 17, 2023, 12:29:50 AM »
GM:  A post like that would be a better fit in "The Way Forward for the American Creed".  Thank you.

That said, please knock it off in this thread.

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« Reply #549 on: June 17, 2023, 09:18:49 AM »
https://www.yahoo.com/news/chris-christie-gains-ground-voters-222700689.html

suddenly crats are helping Christie. along.

the comments section is a joke
they all sound like plants ...

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