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Re: Mike Pence
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2021, 08:00:18 AM »
Pence is in a very interesting position politically right now.  I am very curious to see what he does with it.

How old is he?

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Re: Mike Pence
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2021, 10:17:14 PM »
Pence is in a very interesting position politically right now.  I am very curious to see what he does with it.

How old is he?

Pence is done.

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Re: Mike Pence
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2021, 12:33:34 AM »
61 yrs old. I think he said he is done with politics.

In a good pisition to write a memoir.

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Santorum on Mike Pence
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2021, 09:28:00 AM »
Mike Pence Comes Through for America
We were right to be confident in him as we doubted Trump.
By Rick Santorum
Jan. 12, 2021 1:35 pm ET




Twenty sixteen seems like a lifetime ago, but it’s been fewer than five years since conservatives like me were struggling to accept Donald Trump as the Republican nominee for president. Mr. Trump was a thrice-married New York casino magnate, who had given thousands of dollars to liberal politicians including Chuck Schumer and Kamala Harris. Now he was poised to lead the Party of Reagan?

I had my own personal confrontations with Mr. Trump. In 2011 he called me a “loser.” I immediately phoned to remind the not-always successful developer that not winning at everything doesn’t make you a loser—that learning from your defeats makes you a winner. He told me I was “too conservative” and “too pro-life.” A few months later he endorsed Mitt Romney.


So when he was about to secure the 2016 nomination, conservatives like me needed reassurance that he would follow through on the campaign promises he was making. Much of that reassurance came in the form of Mike Pence.


I have known Mr. Pence for 20 years. He is a trusted conservative and, more important, a good man. He served in the House while I was in the Senate. In 2010, when we were both considering 2012 presidential runs, Mike and I had several conversations about our visions, the issues that were driving us to run, and the family considerations we were struggling with. Not until he decided to run for governor of Indiana did I feel compelled to seek the presidency.


We have seen the vice president’s hand in much of Mr. Trump’s accomplishments over the past four years. We saw the man who called me “too pro-life” become the most pro-life president, the first to address the March for Life. We saw it in the nomination of committed constitutionalists like Justice Amy Coney Barrett. And we saw it in the regulatory reforms the administration has made to improve the economic climate.

As a solid conservative, Mr. Pence believes in our Constitution. To him, constitutional conservatism is more than a campaign slogan. It is the foundation of our republic. If we abandon it when it means our side loses, we have lost more than an election—we have lost our country.

Ironically, it was in holding true to his commitment to the Constitution and standing up to the man who elevated him to the vice presidency that Mr. Pence did his greatest service to conservatives, this administration and the nation.

With the president 16 blocks away, threatening the vice president with retribution, Mr. Pence issued a statement that didn’t waver or attempt to appease his boss and the crowd demanding an unconstitutional solution. By clearly and firmly standing for and by our constitutional republic, he became the indispensable leader America needed.

Vice President John Nance Garner famously said that the office wasn’t “worth a bucket of warm [spit].” For much of our history, that was probably true. But Garner likely never imagined the situation Mr. Pence faced Wednesday, when the republic rested in the vice president’s hands and he protected it.

Mr. Santorum served as a U.S. senator from Pennsylvania, 1995-2007, and was a candidate for the Republican presidential nomination in 2012 and 2016.

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Re: Mike Pence
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2021, 08:18:19 PM »
I am hoping Pence stays in tune and in politics

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Re: Mike Pence
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2021, 09:05:10 AM »
Me too.

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Re: Mike Pence
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2021, 09:14:52 AM »
Me too.

He's seen as a traitor to many on the right.

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Re: Mike Pence
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2021, 09:28:48 AM »
"He's seen as a traitor to many on the right."

my understanding from the Constitutional experts is he did not have legal authority to do what Trump was asking

I was dubious of the whole elector thing
frankly

it had no chance of succeeding
in MHO
though I reluctantly
 went along with it since I thought
  it would be good to make a point and make our position heard

Just my opinion

Pence has prove himself to be a great soft spoken warrior for our side

it is not his role to simply jump off. a bridge for Trump
   who as usual threw him across the train tracks in the end
    after putting up with all his dumb tweets and other shit for 4 yrs

   just my take
   

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Re: Mike Pence
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2021, 09:32:43 AM »
Agreed.

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Re: Mike Pence
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2021, 09:36:33 AM »
RINOs never fight.

Except against the people they are supposed to represent.

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Mike Pence joins Heritage
« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2021, 10:58:01 AM »
This is a good place for him and for Heritage.
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Pence joins Heritage Foundation to boost conservative policies

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/former-vice-president-mike-pence-new-job-heritage

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Re: Mike Pence
« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2021, 03:45:34 AM »
Ummm , , , wrong thread for that.

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WSJ: Mike Pence gets whiplash
« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2021, 06:54:00 PM »

One novel, even astonishing, spectacle in President Trump’s impeachment trial has been progressive Democrats singing the praises of Mike Pence. “The Vice President and I don’t agree on too much in politics,” Rep. Joaquin Castro told the Senate jurors Wednesday. “But he’s a man who upholds his oath, his faith, his duty, and most of all upholds the Constitution.”

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A moment later Mr. Castro called Mr. Pence “a patriot.” Other Democrats concur. “Vice President Pence had the courage to stand against the President, tell the American public the truth, and uphold our Constitution,” said Stacey Plaskett, the delegate for the Virgin Islands. “That is patriotism.” Rep. Ted Lieu said Mr. Pence “stood his ground, like our other brave officials stood their ground.” He added: “Vice President Pence showed us what it means to be an American, what it means to show courage.”

Mr. Pence is probably en route to Walter Reed with symptoms of acute whiplash. For years he has been mocked as a Trump bootlicker, a religious weirdo and bigot. In a 2019 tweet directed at Mr. Pence, Mr. Lieu said he hoped “your hate of LGBTQ employees and students will one day dissipate.” On July 16, 2018, Mr. Castro tweeted: “Mike Pence @VP is a Trump zombie at this point.”


Recall the furor in 2015 when Mr. Pence, as Indiana’s Governor, signed a state Religious Freedom Restoration Act. Or remember the coverage of Mr. Pence’s years-ago comment that he wouldn’t go to dinner alone with a woman not his wife. Amid the pushing for a first impeachment of Mr. Trump, the media offered grave warnings that President Pence might be even worse.

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All that is now forgotten, but don’t expect this strange new respect on the left for Mr. Pence to last. As soon as the second impeachment trial wraps, he will go back to being another dark figure in a political “Handmaid’s Tale” told to inspire fear and loathing among Democratic voters. But for everyone else, Mr. Pence’s defense of the rule of law and the Electoral College should stand as a refutation of that caricature.

As the Republican Party debates its best way forward, some of the GOP’s self-appointed popes want to excommunicate anyone who worked for Mr. Trump. Would the country have been better off the past four years with a low-caliber Vice President devoid of higher loyalties? The events of Jan. 6 proved that claim wrong.

On the other hand, some of Mr. Trump’s most avid fans look upon Mr. Pence as a political Judas because he refused to act in an unconstitutional fashion. This replaces loyalty to the Constitution with loyalty to one man, Donald Trump.

Mr. Castro is right that Mr. Pence is a patriot, who upheld his constitutional duty in the face of Mr. Trump’s jeers and threats. The country should remember this demonstration of principle long after it stops being a Democratic argument in an impeachment trial.

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Re: Mike Pence
« Reply #15 on: February 12, 2021, 05:36:28 AM »
agree with WSJ conclusions
 on Mike Pence

Maybe he should run in '24.

I would not vote for Trump again unless he is last resort or up against a Democrat of flaming Romney type

I don't want to lose

again


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Re: Mike Pence
« Reply #16 on: February 12, 2021, 02:54:27 PM »
Still can't give up the voting fantasy, eh?

 :roll:


agree with WSJ conclusions
 on Mike Pence

Maybe he should run in '24.

I would not vote for Trump again unless he is last resort or up against a Democrat of flaming Romney type

I don't want to lose

again

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Re: Mike Pence
« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2021, 02:59:34 PM »
".Still can't give up the voting fantasy, eh?

 :roll:"

no,  I am just a dupe who believes the Trump "lies the conspiracy theories" and  "q anon" (I still have no idea who that is or give a crap)

I just cant think for myself

I will be lost without Trump    I am without a doubt a Trump cultist
as are the 75 million who voted for him (and probably more votes that were erased or discarded or switched or all the above)

without him I/we might actually believe all the Democrat propaganda  and want to bring the party back to Jeb or even vote for Biden Harris or Michelle
and give my life for BLM
and the new world order
and be good soldier for them and for Zuckerberg and Bloombergs
and of course BFF with the CCP (the other ccp)




 
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Re: Mike Pence
« Reply #20 on: February 17, 2021, 07:12:58 AM »
".Pence’s demonstrations of treacly piety help disguise the fact that he is a cunning creature of the swamp."
give me a break

Trump is the most rude irritating person to work with or for
he tweets dumb ass shit every week
never warns his colleagues
and expects to just blindly obey
like dump ass soldiers

this is a hit job on Pence

who was clearly very loyal every step of the way
putting up with Trumps child outbursts , having to answer for them daily
and even was targeted because he would not and really could not
fail to certify the electors

yes Trump and we were robbed
get over it
we were screwed
move on

if trump wants to give advise that is ok with me
but I do not want to have to vote for him again

as many people he brings to the party he turns as many away with his antics

millions voted for him - but not for him - but against the Dems

we need someone who can fight like him without the personality

Pence is good

and he could have gotten killed for all we know

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Re: Mike Pence
« Reply #21 on: March 02, 2021, 07:07:46 AM »
Political purgatory: Mike Pence missing in action as Trump makes triumphant return
As former President Donald Trump teased his political comeback to conservatives this weekend, his one-time wingman, ex-Vice President Mike Pence, was nowhere to be found.

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populist press
« Reply #22 on: March 04, 2021, 07:51:27 AM »
headlines like this are just so unhelpful

Pence is not the enemy
Democrats are

agree with Pence for upholding the Constitution

https://populist.press/bombshell-lin-wood-leaks-whistleblower-transcripts-exposing-vp-pence/

populist press has become a mouthpiece for the world's greatest narcissist.
Often but not always good for future of conservatism or Republican Party

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Re: populist press
« Reply #23 on: March 04, 2021, 01:14:13 PM »
Pence could have stood up against the fraud. He rubberstamped the end of the American Republic.


headlines like this are just so unhelpful

Pence is not the enemy
Democrats are

agree with Pence for upholding the Constitution

https://populist.press/bombshell-lin-wood-leaks-whistleblower-transcripts-exposing-vp-pence/

populist press has become a mouthpiece for the world's greatest narcissist.
Often but not always good for future of conservatism or Republican Party

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Re: Mike Pence
« Reply #24 on: March 04, 2021, 02:34:14 PM »
do you honestly think if Pence did what Trump wanted
it would have worked?

the "Republic would have been saved?"

How so?

he was being realistic


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Re: Mike Pence
« Reply #25 on: March 04, 2021, 03:01:52 PM »
The he could have tried. Made the SCOTUS rule on it. Something other than just rolling over.


do you honestly think if Pence did what Trump wanted
it would have worked?

the "Republic would have been saved?"

How so?

he was being realistic

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Re: Mike Pence
« Reply #26 on: March 04, 2021, 04:17:14 PM »
Made the SCOTUS rule on it

 :roll:

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Re: Mike Pence
« Reply #27 on: March 04, 2021, 04:37:06 PM »
Made the SCOTUS rule on it

 :roll:

Our professional republicans are never willing to fight. The dems always are, and cheat as well. Now with the wide open border, this country is done.