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Angst Re Biden’s Track Record on Sentencing Reform v. Trump’s
« Reply #101 on: April 18, 2024, 04:39:02 AM »
The ironies are delicious, particularly coming from CNN and its slanted perspective:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/26/opinions/biden-criminal-justice-trump-first-step-act-osler/index.html


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Re: Crime and punishment
« Reply #105 on: June 08, 2024, 05:48:26 AM »
https://notthebee.com/article/watch-we-just-found-the-best-way-to-deal-with-porch-pirates-?utm_source=Not+The+Bee+Newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=06072024

I recall setting traps up for thieves is illegal in Florida - or was.
I had thought about setting traps for the song thieves.

Self protection gun laws have been liberalized since I left Florida but I am not sure about traps.

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Re: Crime and punishment
« Reply #106 on: June 08, 2024, 06:07:39 AM »
Best to assume this is illegal just about everywhere.

There was a famous case in first year Tort class about this.


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"Crime is Down"
« Reply #108 on: July 08, 2024, 09:59:33 AM »
"Crime is down", we are told.  "Biden Accomplishment."


Too bad FBI "national" crime stats don't include most crime:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-10-05/murder-rate-mystery-new-fbi-crime-stats-don-t-include-nyc-la

the bureau switched the way it collects crime data this year, and many police departments did not get on board. Los Angeles and New York City did not report to the FBI. In fact, only 63% of the country's police departments submitted anything, and some of the data that was submitted was incomplete.
https://www.npr.org/2022/10/05/1127047811/the-fbis-new-crime-report-is-in-but-its-incomplete

https://nypost.com/2022/10/05/new-fbi-national-crime-data-released-with-major-holes-in-nyc-la/

"101 Shot in Chicago over the Holiday Weekend"  July 8, 2024
https://abc7chicago.com/post/chicago-shootings-weekend-least-101-shot-18-fatally/15041696/

"Crime is down".
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CA Bill Would Criminalize STOPPING Shoplifters
« Reply #109 on: July 13, 2024, 01:30:50 PM »

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Re: Crime and punishment
« Reply #110 on: July 13, 2024, 01:35:49 PM »
the convicts are running the jails.

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A Simple Solution
« Reply #111 on: July 13, 2024, 01:53:59 PM »
2nd post. Cook county (Chicago) prosecutor notes blacks are more likely to have illegal guns and drugs when pulled over during traffic stops. The solution for equity’s sake? Stop prosecuting them:

https://x.com/amuse/status/1811813491436572680?s=61

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Re: Crime and punishment
« Reply #112 on: July 25, 2024, 06:23:28 AM »
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2024/07/25/europe-flights-disrupted-again-by-green-extremists/

I was just thinking:

If possible, let them stayed glued to where they are for a few days.
Maybe that might teach them a lesson.

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Re: Crime and punishment
« Reply #113 on: July 25, 2024, 07:14:17 AM »
Should such folks ever appear in my life my fantasy is to whip out my dick and piss on them.

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Re: Crime and punishment
« Reply #114 on: July 25, 2024, 07:26:28 AM »
 :-D

or maybe your students could practice on them instead of a heavy punching bag.

 :-D

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Re: Crime and punishment
« Reply #115 on: July 25, 2024, 07:28:36 AM »
The disrespect and mockery of pissing on them is better than assault & battery.


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Re: Crime and punishment
« Reply #118 on: August 24, 2024, 06:51:19 AM »
"By 2020, almost every law enforcement agency was included in the FBI’s database. Some agencies reported topline numbers, such as the total number of murders or car thefts, through the Summary Reporting System. Others reported granular incident data with details about each reported crime through the newer National Incident-Based Reporting System (NIBRS).

"Then it all changed in 2021. In an effort to fully modernize the system, the FBI stopped taking data from the old summary system and only accepted data through the new system. Thousands of police agencies fell through the cracks because they didn’t catch up with the changes on time."

This is our bullet point answer to Dem gaslighting on this.

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retail theft ; huge denies problem by Dems/Harris/Bamas mob
« Reply #119 on: August 26, 2024, 06:24:06 AM »

I was recently listening I think to Kudlow and he and guest were talking about Rite Aid and there losses are mostly due to theft.

And instead of calling for more punishment for people who steal and causing the inflation in the first place she calls for price controls more tax and more give aways.

It was also stated that food price controls will close down endless grocery stores whose margins may be as low as  1 or 2 %.

A related article from a yr ago

https://foodinstitute.com/focus/retail-theft-is-a-growing-problem-can-the-tide-be-turned/

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Harris Bail money led to this murder
« Reply #120 on: September 12, 2024, 03:13:06 AM »
https://amgreatness.com/2024/09/11/bail-fund-supported-by-kamala-harris-freed-minnesota-man-later-accused-of-murder/

Mentioned was in the debate.

Crime and punishment 101 quedtion, what is the purpose of a bail requirement and what is the effect of removing a bail requirement?

Asked and answered in one story.

And SHE is a crime and punishment expert?
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Getting Away w/ Murder and Rape
« Reply #121 on: September 23, 2024, 03:57:18 PM »
Sounds like an interesting read:

[Eugene Volokh] Prof. Paul Robinson & Jeffrey Seaman Guest-Blogging About "Confronting Failures of Justice: Getting Away with Murder and Rape"
The Volokh Conspiracy / by Eugene Volokh / Sep 22, 2024 at 11:46 AM


I'm delighted to report that Prof. Paul Robinson (Penn) and Jeffrey Seaman will be guest-blogging this coming week about their new book. Here's the publisher's summary:

Most murderers and rapists escape justice, a horrifying fact that has gone largely unexamined until now. This groundbreaking book tours nearly the entire criminal justice system, examining the rules and practices that regularly produce failures of justice in serious criminal cases. Each chapter outlines the nature and extent of justice failures in present practice, describing the interests at stake, and providing real-world examples. Finally, each chapter reviews proposed and implemented reforms that could balance the competing interests in a less justice-frustrating manner and recommends one—sometimes completely original—reform to improve the system.

A systematic study of justice failures is long overdue. As this book discusses, regular failures of justice in serious criminal cases undermine deterrence and the criminal justice system's credibility with the community as a moral authority. The damage caused by unpunished crime is immense and, even worse, falls primarily on vulnerable minority communities. Now for the first time, students, researchers, policymakers, and citizens have a resource that explains why justice failures occur and what can be done about them.

And the jacket blurbs:

Relying on a truly astounding number of case studies, criminological reports, reviews of federal and state laws, and opinion surveys, Confronting Failures of Justice is a mammoth yet incisive documentation of the myriad ways our legal system undermines the goal of ensuring people who commit crimes receive the punishment they deserve. This book's thoughtful compendium of how to rectify these injustices provides policymakers with a recipe for reform that is both eminently feasible and theoretically robust.

—Christopher Slobogin, Milton Underwood Professor of Law, Vanderbilt University; author of Rehabilitating Criminal Justice: Policing, Adjudication and Sentencing

Confronting Failures of Justice is quite simply a tour de force. The writing is compelling, and the subject is urgent. It offers a model of clear thinking about the justice system, carefully assesses where and why justice fails, and presents an important argument about the urgency of doing justice. It is sure to become a classic.

—Austin Sarat, William Nelson Cromwell Professor of Jurisprudence and Political Science, Amherst College

This is the most original and fascinating book on criminal law I have read in years. I learned something important on every page. Liberals and conservatives alike should be receptive to these novel ideas about how serious crime might be reduced.

—Douglas N. Husak, Distinguished Professor of Philosophy and Law, Rutgers University; author of The Philosophy of Criminal Law

When a person shouldn't be punished, or is punished too much, the injustice done is easy to see. Harder to see is the injustice at work when those who should be punished are never found, their crimes never solved. Robinson, Seaman and Sarahne do a great service bringing this invisible injustice to light, identifying its many causes, and offering commonsense proposals for reform. Highly recommended.

—Stephen P. Garvey, A. Robert Noll Professor of Law, Cornell Law School

Criminal-law icon Paul Robinson and his esteemed colleagues have produced a text that flips the threadbare contemporary-academic discussion on its head—asking whether a modern-liberal society that seeks to improve the life and circumstances of all its members must take as seriously its moral obligation of imposing just punishment on wrongdoers as it does avoiding unjust punishment on the innocent. So often modern-intellectual discourse is an echo chamber of rut digging commentary that ignores multitudes of alternative paths. Confronting Failures of Justice systematically explores those other avenues. Kudos for producing such a thoughtful analysis.

—Robert Steinbuch, law professor, University of Arkansas at Little Rock

This comprehensive, exhaustively researched book by Paul Robinson, Jeffrey Seaman, and Muhammad Sarahne probes the issues facing criminal justice today, primarily in the English-speaking world. Highly recommended for everyone committed to a just society.

—George P. Fletcher, Cardozo Professor of Jurisprudence, Columbia University School of Law

Confronting Failures of Justice is comprehensive and thoroughly researched, but wears its erudition lightly, offering a vivid and highly readable account of criminal law's failings—and possible ways to mitigate or avoid them—that will engage and inform academics and general readers alike. With numerous compelling real-world illustrations, this book surveys a wide range of grave and troubling injustices, yet leavens its tragic tales with hopeful proposals for reform.

—Michael T. Cahill, emeritus president and dean, Brooklyn Law School

Confronting Failures of Justice brilliantly and non-ideologically interweaves criminal law theory, substance and procedure, painstaking investigation of the criminal justice system, massive statistical research, and illustrative case studies to convincingly document the regular, immensely costly failures of the criminal justice system to do justice. It canvasses the causes of such injustice and, equally important, it offers sensible solutions to the problems created at each stage of the system. It is a balanced, magisterial work that is indispensable for those who seek to understand and to improve American criminal justice.

—Stephen J. Morse, Ferdinand Wakeman Hubbell Professor of Law and professor of psychology and law in psychiatry, University of Pennsylvania

The post Prof. Paul Robinson & Jeffrey Seaman Guest-Blogging About "Confronting Failures of Justice: Getting Away with Murder and Rape" appeared first on Reason.com.

https://reason.com/volokh/2024/09/22/prof-paul-robinson-jeffrey-seaman-guest-blogging-about-confronting-failures-of-justice-getting-away-with-murder-and-rape/

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Are FBI Statistics Reliable?
« Reply #122 on: October 10, 2024, 12:24:18 PM »
Given their fluidity--the FBI reports three different figures for the same type of crime in the same year, as stated below--FBI stats aren't the sort of gospel the MSM pretend them to be:

Jeffrey H. Anderson

Are FBI Crime Statistics Reliable?

The agency’s process is shrouded in mystery, and its numbers are often inconsistent.

Oct 09 2024

The mainstream media has recently trumpeted the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s estimate that violent crime fell 3 percent nationally from 2022 to 2023. They have largely ignored, however, the latest iteration of the Bureau of Justice Statistics’ National Crime Victimization Survey (NCVS), which found a 9 percent increase in property crime in urban areas over that span—part of a 26 percent rise in urban property crime, alongside a whopping 40 percent surge in urban violent crime, from 2019 to 2023.

Set aside, for a moment, the media’s downplaying of BJS’s inconvenient urban-crime data. Are the FBI’s statistics really precise enough to make much of a reported 3 percent annual change in violent crime?

Trying to decipher how the FBI produces its statistics, and what those numbers even are, is a lot like combing through a crime scene and searching for clues. The agency’s processes, such as how it tries to “estimate” unreported figures, has long been a black box, even to the Bureau of Justice Statistics—the Department of Justice’s actual statistical agency. Things have become even more cryptic of late, as the FBI has struggled to implement its new crime-reporting system, adopted nationally in 2021. That new system makes year-to-year comparisons more challenging, in part because only 85 percent of agencies provided data for 2023—in other words, the FBI is capturing only a portion of crimes reported to police.

The FBI also has a history of offering multiple and conflicting crime figures, which makes precise cross-year comparisons difficult. For example: How many violent crimes were committed nationwide in 2020? The table linked to on the FBI’s Uniform Crime Reporting Program (UCR) website—its “Source Data”—indicates 1,272,812 such crimes committed nationally in 2020. But the bureau’s 2021 press release announcing the publication of 2020 crime data pegged the figure at 1,277,696. Then, in 2022, its press release highlighting the publication of 2021 crime statistics claimed the 2020 figure had actually been 1,326,600. Add in the FBI’s Data Discovery Tool, which currently lists the 2020 total as 1,304,574, and you have four different figures for one statistic.

Or take the number of murders (including instances of non-negligent manslaughter) in 2021. The FBI’s press release announcing the agency’s 2021 crime numbers declared that there had been 22,900 murders that year, a 4.3 percent increase from 2020. Today, however, the UCR’s “Source Data” claims that there were 21,462 murders in 2021—a 4.7 percent decrease from the prior year. Apparently, over 1,400 murders went missing between the time the FBI issued that initial press release and today. Moreover, the agency’s Data Discovery Tool lists the 2021 homicide total at 19,563—more than 3,000 shy of the originally released tally.

This is not to say that the FBI is doing anything nefarious, but rather, that the media are putting too much faith in the crime data released by an entity that isn’t a principal federal statistical agency. The bureau appears to have adjusted its numbers at different times in different ways, to compensate for missing data or to incorporate previously missing data. But its process is hardly transparent, its results are often inconsistent and poorly explained, and its numbers are frustratingly fluid.

A press corps eager to report a 3 percent drop in violent crime from 2022 to 2023, per the FBI’s “estimated” numbers, might want to think about how reliable such estimates are—given that one can find evidence from the bureau of either a 6 percent or 15 percent drop in its own reported number of murders committed in a given year, depending on the source. And that’s for murder, the easiest crime to count.

More fundamentally, the FBI cannot capture crimes that aren’t reported to police. Victims responding to the NCVS—which has been around since the Nixon administration and is one of the largest federal surveys on any topic—say that most violent crimes (55 percent) and property crimes (70 percent) aren’t reported to police. So, if victims are to be believed, the FBI’s data doesn’t capture most of the criminal activity committed in the United States.

Even if the FBI’s current, presumably fluid, estimate that violent crime fell 3 percent from 2022 to 2023 is roughly accurate—and even if that figure holds for the unreported crimes that the FBI can’t capture—Americans can be forgiven for thinking that this pales next to a 40 percent, four-year rise in urban violent crime, or next to a 26 percent, four-year increase in urban property crime. The press wants to wish this away to avoid reckoning with the human costs of lax law-enforcement policies.

https://www.city-journal.org/article/are-fbi-crime-statistics-reliable