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Beck: trump was sabotaged
« Reply #1201 on: July 19, 2016, 07:10:58 PM »
I am glad Glenn said it because I was thinking the same thing.  No one could be that stupid to copy another speech word for work and use it again without knowing it would be caught:
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/07/19/glenn-becks-theory-on-what-really-happened-with-melania-trumps-now-infamous-rnc-speech/

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Donald Trump Jr. at the RNC
« Reply #1202 on: July 19, 2016, 10:04:14 PM »

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Mark Levin's Conservative review on DT jr
« Reply #1203 on: July 20, 2016, 06:34:26 AM »

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seven for the "price" of one
« Reply #1204 on: July 21, 2016, 05:11:21 AM »
Remember when Bill bragged that we were getting both he AND Hillary - two for one?

Now we are getting 5 for the "price" of one.  Three children one wife as well as DJT.  This is remarkable.  How the family members seem to have so much power.

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Re: Donald Trump
« Reply #1205 on: July 21, 2016, 03:14:56 PM »
My impression is that the two sons are worthy members of the team, and will check out the daughter tonight.

As for Melania, she is gorgeous and seems well content to be that and a mom to her children and support to her husband.  Good for her!

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Speech - I like it a lot
« Reply #1207 on: July 22, 2016, 02:11:22 PM »
I thought great speech though I missed part of it as I walked the dogs thinking it was almost over.

2 things I noticed

#1  Ivanka said something about single mothers should have child care - my question - at whose expense.

#2  It was certainly weird while accepting the *Republican * nomination for president of the United States hearing him say "I am neither a Democrat or Republican"!!!!   :-o

I go to  Conservative review and all I see is Trump bashing and compliments to Cruz.  To me Mark is off in dream land somewhere.  One now sees first hand why Cruz is so absolutely hated .  Was there even 1 Senate colleague who came out and supported him until it was down to him and Trump?  I don't blame him for not wanting to endorse but he should have not gone to the convention in that case. 

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Re: Donald Trump
« Reply #1208 on: July 25, 2016, 06:43:52 AM »
2 things I noticed
#1  Ivanka said something about single mothers should have child care - my question - at whose expense.


Nice catch.  I missed her speech, but Trump's format was a State of the Union speech and the longer those speeches go, the more proposals we get for new federal government programs.  Our 'big government conservatives' (oxymoron) can't attract those votes without surrendering principles to the the left.  Yes single parents need child care in order to work and be self sufficient.  Therefore we need a federal government program?  "Life of Julia".  We need assistance, really a relationship with the federal government at every point in our life from pre-natal to 6 feet under.  This is defied in Article WHAT? in the constitution?

The government is not your husband.  To say out loud, Rule 1 of not being in poverty is to marry before starting a family is to lose votes.  Leftists want to go back to the 50s for marginal tax rates but not for family structure.  And pseudo-Republicans want to emulate Democrats to win votes.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/obamas-julia-ad-and-the-new-hubby-state/2012/05/11/gIQAcRdoIU_story.html
http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/09/opinion/bennett-obama-campaign/index.html

Asking this question in public may win votes, but if you really think this through you will find that a new federal social engineering program is the not best answer.  Designing a perfect life for single mothers to raise children without fathers might not even be asking the right question.

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Re: Donald Trump
« Reply #1209 on: July 25, 2016, 06:59:27 AM »
 "To say out loud, Rule 1 of not being in poverty is to marry before starting a family is to lose votes."

So if Trump is so blunt why will he not say this?

I say that tongue in cheek.

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Trump-Pence, My endorsement
« Reply #1210 on: July 25, 2016, 07:47:49 AM »
Here is my whole-hearted, lukewarm, lesser of evils, unapologetic endorsement of Trump-Pence for President in 2016, and my advice to others on the fence.

I started this as a Rubio supporter.  Trump beat Rubio in his own state, in his own party.  Trump needs Florida to win in November.  Trump needs Rubio -in the Senate.  Rubio needs Trump for turnout in Florida, for Commander in Chief and to sign the badly needed reform in Washington.  America needs bothTrump and Rubio and all of us or else leftism will be permanent.  As unlikely as it seemed a short time ago, this is our team.

These are my biggest objections to Trump (other than his personality) and how he addressed these to win my vote:

1)  He is profoundly wrong on Kelo and private, crony government takings.

2)  He is profoundly wrong on trade.

3)  Trump is not a true, limited government conservative.

(1) On Kelo, his answer was to offer a list of potential Supreme Court picks representing the type of Justices he will appoint.  This is not a promise or a perfect answer but it is a great list that addresses that concern as well as it is possible.  There is a risk that Trump (or any Republican) will make a bad pick and there is the certainty that Hillary will make nothing but bad picks for the Courts from a constitutional conservative point of view.

(2)  On trade, Trump promises to re-open trade agreements bilaterally and get better terms for America.  I am not on the same page as Trump in his view of what has gone wrong.    America can compete with anyone on a level playing field.  Our problems are internal, excess taxation and excess over-regulation. These are both areas that Trump is actively addressing and that Hillary will make worse, much worse.  

Trump promises the new agreements will be better for America.  They are not better if they include high tariffs paid by American consumers, a trade war, a falling economy or a rising cost of living.  He can't let that happen and deliver on his promise.  Trump is willing to threaten tariffs with Mexico, China and others.  The threat must be real but the end point must be no tariff.  If he stands true on his promise, we will win concessions without new tariffs and he will not trigger a trade war or the next Great Depression.

More importantly, the sovereignty loss in "trade" agreements is real and Trump will not give away our country the way President Obama and Hillary Clinton have and would.

(3)  Regarding limited government conservatism, Donald Trump was not among my top 100 choices of the 17 running and those who might have.  Mike Pence, on the other hand, is as good of a limited government conservative as we can hope for in high elective office and he is Trump's pick for his VP choice.  Worst case, no matter how badly Trump governs we are one heartbeat away from a chance at having great, limited government, conservative President.  With Hillary there is no such hope or chance.  Far more optimistically, the Pence pick and other limited government promises such as relief on taxes and regulations are positive indicators of the direction the Trump Presidency will take.

Then there is the Gary Johnson (non-)alternative.  This is a binary choice, Trump v. Hillary.  Johnson is disqualified.  When asked whether it was wrong for the United States to intervene in WWI? In WWII? Johnson's entire answer was, "I don't know"!
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/highlights-libertarian-party-presidential-debate/story?id=39464103
For all our differences over Iraq, Iran, Syria and ISIS, if you don't know the answer to that one at this point in your life and are running for President, you aren't going to be my choice for Commander in Chief!

Hillary Clinton starts this race with 242 electoral votes in hand out of 270 required, the so-called "Blue Wall".  18 states including NY, Calif, etc. and D.C. have gone Democratic in the last six presidential elections. If she loses within these, she has also loses the swing states and loses the election in a landslide. Trump running with Mike Pence will win all the solidly Republican states, more states but less than half the electoral votes.  Gary Johnson and all other minor party candidates combined will win zero states.  Trump-Pence will open the contest in the Midwest, so called rust belt states, and can make Clinton spend resources in NY and NJ.  But mostly, any Republican ticket needs to run the table in the well-known swing states to win.

Anyone who leans at all right, despises Hillary, lives in any contested state, and then does not vote for Donald Trump, the only alternative to Clinton, is securing her election and a permanently leftist, anti-constitutional country.  Sure they say this every year and it's true every year, but the consequences of screwing up this time have never been worse.

Herb Brooks told his gold medal hockey team after they beat the Soviet Union and were facing Finland in the finals, "Lose this one and you will take it to your grave".  Complain about Trump all you want, but sit this one, help Hillary win, and ... ditto ... you will take the consequences of that to your grave.

Trump is far from perfect but there is no acceptable alternative remaining.  You take all that is wrong with Trump or you and your children and your grandchildren will be ruled forever by leftists.   No pressure.

Hillary will open up felon votes, illegal votes, no-ID votes, foreigner votes, maybe pre-school votes, and I barely exaggerate.  All but the last is already in motion. This will be the last close election if we give them four more years to transform the electorate.

This Rubio supporter, almost-never-Trump-type will be voting for Trump-Pence on November 8 with no apologies!
« Last Edit: July 25, 2016, 09:11:40 AM by DougMacG »

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Re: Donald Trump
« Reply #1211 on: July 25, 2016, 02:36:49 PM »
Well said!

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Re: Donald Trump
« Reply #1213 on: July 25, 2016, 06:37:23 PM »
"When asked whether it was wrong for the United States to intervene in WWI? In WWII? Johnson's entire answer was, "I don't know"!"

Well I was thinking just today how the US bailed Europe out twice last century.  And thinking maybe Trump IS on to something.  Europe sure as hell better be carrying their weight with NATO.  Maybe a fresh look at NATO is not such a bad idea.

"Herb Brooks told his gold medal hockey team after they beat the Soviet Union and were facing Finland in the finals, "Lose this one and you will take it to your grave".  Complain about Trump all you want, but sit this one, help Hillary win, and ... ditto ... you will take the consequences of that to your grave."

Yup.  Exactly right Doug.  Our friends at the Conservative and National Reviews better wake the hell up.  And Cruz made a huge blunder.  I don't know what his point was or who he was trying to impress.
He sure  wasn't going to win anybody any new friends with his stunt.  He should have just stayed home.  At least the Bush's know when to be silent.  And Cruz simply does not know how to broaden his appeal.  He is tone deaf from the right like Rhinos are tone deaf from near the center.

We ain't got till 2020.

What do you think Hillary and crew are going to do by pardoning all the illegals.  Millions upon millions more will flood in here and vote for socialism.  Do NOT think many will NOT be voting.  Certainly millions of their natural born children sure will.

Trump may well be able to reach some groups that the Rhinos can or will not reach out to.

We all better hope so.



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Re: Donald Trump
« Reply #1214 on: July 26, 2016, 05:13:36 AM »
"Our friends at the Conservative and National Reviews better wake the hell up. "

VDH on National Review states my point better than me (who could have thought that?):

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/438296/trump-clinton-obama-matter-degree

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Re: Trump-Pence, My endorsement
« Reply #1216 on: July 27, 2016, 03:17:00 PM »

Hillary will open up felon votes, illegal votes, no-ID votes, foreigner votes, maybe pre-school votes, and I barely exaggerate.  All but the last is already in motion. This will be the last close election if we give them four more years to transform the electorate.


All of you miscalled whether or not Trump would be the nominee.

I do have one question though.... what's your issue with American citizens voting in their elections, as listed above (the felons)? They are American citizens last time I checked.

I'm curious as to why you feel you deserve a voice in your country, but they do not, especially when they're law abiding and pay taxes. The rights only apply to you per your perspective.... massah?

Edit: It occurs to me, that many so called "Americans," are the very tyrannical government that the Constitution was implemented to protect all of us against. That basically means, that if you support anything other than the original constitution, you're the tyranny of evil men.

I'm ok with that. I've been looking forward to this for a while.
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Re: Trump-Pence, My endorsement
« Reply #1217 on: July 28, 2016, 08:18:56 AM »
Hillary will open up felon votes, illegal votes, no-ID votes, foreigner votes, maybe pre-school votes, and I barely exaggerate.  All but the last is already in motion. This will be the last close election if we give them four more years to transform the electorate.
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I do have one question though.... what's your issue with American citizens voting in their elections, as listed above (the felons)? They are American citizens last time I checked.
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If losing your privilege to vote is one of the lawful penalties of being convicted of a felony or of certain crimes, then one has not fully paid his or her debt when released.  Has this particular penalty been struck down in any court as unconstitutional?  Oddly, it is put forward by Democrats not out of fairness but out of political advantage.  7 out of 10 felons register Democrat:  http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/jail-survey-nearly-34-felons-register-as-democrats/article/2541412

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Re: Trump-Pence, My endorsement
« Reply #1218 on: July 28, 2016, 08:29:09 AM »
Hillary will open up felon votes, illegal votes, no-ID votes, foreigner votes, maybe pre-school votes, and I barely exaggerate.  All but the last is already in motion. This will be the last close election if we give them four more years to transform the electorate.
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I do have one question though.... what's your issue with American citizens voting in their elections, as listed above (the felons)? They are American citizens last time I checked.
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If losing your privilege to vote is one of the lawful penalties of being convicted of a felony or of certain crimes, then one has not fully paid his or her debt when released.  Has this particular penalty been struck down in any court as unconstitutional?  Oddly, it is put forward by Democrats not out of fairness but out of political advantage.  7 out of 10 felons register Democrat:  http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/jail-survey-nearly-34-felons-register-as-democrats/article/2541412

Interesting that you use the word "privilege." That's what your rights are, are they? "Privileges?"By the way, they've also shown that most wouldn't even bother voting, and this person typing this, would never vote Democrat.

By the way, they have laws against cruel and unusual punishment. Most people buy into that crap. I don't. Even arguing it or discussing it is ridiculous and leads no where.

I don't think I feel like asking your permission for my rights that YOU grant to no one, especially because you fear that it may not lead to the candidate of your choice being elected, and especially while you expect me to work and pay for it through taxes.

I think there was a war started over that once.

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Re: Trump-Pence, My endorsement
« Reply #1219 on: July 28, 2016, 10:18:03 AM »
Hillary will open up felon votes, illegal votes, no-ID votes, foreigner votes, maybe pre-school votes, and I barely exaggerate.  All but the last is already in motion. This will be the last close election if we give them four more years to transform the electorate.
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I do have one question though.... what's your issue with American citizens voting in their elections, as listed above (the felons)? They are American citizens last time I checked.
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If losing your privilege to vote is one of the lawful penalties of being convicted of a felony or of certain crimes, then one has not fully paid his or her debt when released.  Has this particular penalty been struck down in any court as unconstitutional?  Oddly, it is put forward by Democrats not out of fairness but out of political advantage.  7 out of 10 felons register Democrat:  http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/jail-survey-nearly-34-felons-register-as-democrats/article/2541412

Interesting that you use the word "privilege." That's what your rights are, are they? "Privileges?"By the way, they've also shown that most wouldn't even bother voting, and this person typing this, would never vote Democrat.

By the way, they have laws against cruel and unusual punishment. Most people buy into that crap. I don't. Even arguing it or discussing it is ridiculous and leads no where.

I don't think I feel like asking your permission for my rights that YOU grant to no one, especially because you fear that it may not lead to the candidate of your choice being elected, and especially while you expect me to work and pay for it through taxes.

I think there was a war started over that once.

DDF,  I like hearing your view on this.  I also noticed I chose the word privilege over right, had second thoughts about it as I wrote.  Is it a right or a privilege?  We used to not let 18, 19, 20 year olds vote.  It took a constitutional amendment to change that.  Can you lose a right?  Can a penalty be for a lifetime?

Of course it is controversial and I see your side of it.  A lot of the real 'felons' are never caught, never prosecuted.  A lot of good people are charged or plea to 'crimes' of no real note or victim. Some are innocent and some guilty people reform.  Still we take pride in the rule of law here and the point I made I think explains one side of this issue.

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Donald Trump and Putin/Russia
« Reply #1220 on: July 29, 2016, 06:41:32 AM »
There does seem to be a pattern with huuuge implications here.  Are we willing to go down this road with Donald?

This, from a lefty source, does list some things to keep in mind:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/7/26/1552616/-Russian-Hackers-Altered-Emails-Before-Release-to-Wikileaks

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Look at the source of this article
« Reply #1221 on: July 29, 2016, 07:45:44 AM »
Lets be very careful what the LEFT prints.

The link from far left Daily Kos is "russian-hackers-altered-emaisl-before-release-to-wikipedia

but in the body of the article it says, "may have altered"

Obviously this is an attempt by the liberals to ALTER the truth in their favor.


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Re: Donald Trump
« Reply #1222 on: July 29, 2016, 10:45:54 AM »
But I posted it for its reference to various pro-Putin/Russia comments from Trump over the years.

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Re: Donald Trump
« Reply #1223 on: July 29, 2016, 11:54:41 AM »
What Trump I think likes about Putin is that he is a nationalist.. Russia first. 

And Trump is saying US first

I worked with some Russians who love Putin despite all the corruption, despite economic woes, why?


because he is a Russia first guy.

Wouldn't it be nice to have someone here who is in charge who feels the same way about the US.  Forget about all the phony Us flag waving and declarations on how great the US is the past staged few days.

And to have the Musllim father waving a small copy of the US Constitution around at a DNC convention is hypocracy beyond the pale.  Not for him personally but to do it as though the Democrats are Constitutionalists is just typical Clintoneasque BS.

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« Reply #1224 on: July 29, 2016, 12:41:11 PM »
What Trump I think likes about Putin is that he is a nationalist.. Russia first. 

And Trump is saying US first

I worked with some Russians who love Putin despite all the corruption, despite economic woes, why?


because he is a Russia first guy.

Wouldn't it be nice to have someone here who is in charge who feels the same way about the US.  Forget about all the phony Us flag waving and declarations on how great the US is the past staged few days.

And to have the Musllim father waving a small copy of the US Constitution around at a DNC convention is hypocracy beyond the pale.  Not for him personally but to do it as though the Democrats are Constitutionalists is just typical Clintoneasque BS.

Putin is Fantastic. I lived under him for a while. Great guy. No grey areas with him.

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Re: Donald Trump
« Reply #1225 on: July 31, 2016, 02:10:54 PM »
 Jewish Princeton Professor Emeritus on Russian US relations  was a guest on Smerconish on CNN, AND actually came out and agreed with Trump and disagreed with Clinton.   I thought ok, he is Jewish , he is from Princeton, he is a university professor and the odds are high he will bash Trump and pronounce Hillary the Queen,   
But no.  He was more neutral.  What a pleasant surprise.  And he bashed the media for jumping on Trump!!!!!!!
 Like I posted on another thread , why shouldn't we take another look at Nato?  At our relationship with Russia? 

This scholar certainly thinks this has validity:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/07/30/russia_expert_stephen_cohen_trump_wants_to_stop_the_new_cold_war_but_the_america_media_just_doesnt_understand.html

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« Reply #1227 on: July 31, 2016, 05:55:36 PM »
http://nypost.com/2016/07/30/melania-trump-like-youve-never-seen-her-before/

Eastern Europe is a poor place with few opportunities. It's similar to the zones of tolerance that operate here in Mexico. Saddest place I've ever seen. I don't judge the women that work there just to have something to eat.

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« Reply #1228 on: July 31, 2016, 06:05:25 PM »
Jewish Princeton Professor Emeritus on Russian US relations  was a guest on Smerconish on CNN, AND actually came out and agreed with Trump and disagreed with Clinton.   I thought ok, he is Jewish , he is from Princeton, he is a university professor and the odds are high he will bash Trump and pronounce Hillary the Queen,   
But no.  He was more neutral.  What a pleasant surprise.  And he bashed the media for jumping on Trump!!!!!!!
 Like I posted on another thread , why shouldn't we take another look at Nato?  At our relationship with Russia? 

This scholar certainly thinks this has validity:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/07/30/russia_expert_stephen_cohen_trump_wants_to_stop_the_new_cold_war_but_the_america_media_just_doesnt_understand.html

Great article -

 "New York Times," which says Russian spies said to have hacked Clinton's bid...There is no evidence for that. None whatsoever. "
 Exactly. The media spits something out with ambiguous sources (not unlike people saying that ISIS agents are crossing the southern border....no hard witnessess), just take their word for it. I don't buy it.

"Putin, could do as he pleases, in that part of the world."
As opposed to the US doing whatever it wants in any part of the world with the sole exceptions of Russia, China and North Korea?

"We just say, oh, Trump wants to abandon NATO. "
I'm not seeing the problem with that at all. It should be applied to the UN as well.


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Re: Donald Trump
« Reply #1229 on: August 01, 2016, 12:38:33 PM »
Trump needs a far better rapid fire response to the media team .

Clintons have their people ALL OVER MSM within 24 hrs with coordinated spins when ever they feel the need to . Donald just has himself and a few others allowed to come on like in effective Corey Lowendowski who is a CNN employee. 

The libs on the news networks are spinning right around them.

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Re: Donald Trump
« Reply #1230 on: August 01, 2016, 12:48:59 PM »
Which does not speak well of his skills as a CEO , , ,

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Re: Donald Trump
« Reply #1231 on: August 01, 2016, 08:21:50 PM »
An aside in this article is this:

"This came after Colorado Springs firefighters rescued Trump and about ten others from a stalled elevator just before his speech by prying open the top and lowering a ladder, according to KKTV."

What are the odds of a stalled elevator?


http://www.rawstory.com/2016/07/colorado-springs-fire-marshal-responds-with-grace-after-being-bashed-by-trump-for-doing-his-job/

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Re: Donald Trump, Crimea
« Reply #1232 on: August 04, 2016, 07:10:40 AM »
I can't find coverage of this that isn't anti-Trump to begin with, but Trump made a series of sloppy statements about Crimea and is paying a price for it in the media.

"Russia isn't going into Ukraine' meaning under his watch.  But they're already there, in Crimea.  That was under Obama. 'It isn't our fight' - except that is a change in stated policy; the west has not recognized the annexation.  But the west, not led by Obama, wasn't taking that fight to Russia or going in anyway.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/facts-behind-trumps-comments-russia-ukraine/

Strange that the left can turn their failures into Trump's disqualifications.


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Re: Donald Trump
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Re: Donald Trump, economic team, economic speech
« Reply #1234 on: August 05, 2016, 07:48:58 AM »
CCP:  Oh my God.  I can see the Dems dusting off of the "Daisy" commercials now:
http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/290359-megyn-kelly-hits-scarborough-msnbc-show-could-not-have-promoted

The Daisy commercial might work the other way around this time.  Hillary won't protect us at the border or from ISIS immigration and there is enough footage of terror bombings to full a 60 second spot.
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Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump revealed his initial list of economic advisers Friday, which includes 14 individuals from the worlds of finance and real estate.

https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/TRUMP_ECONOMIC_ADVISORY_COUNCIL_FINAL.pdf

Trump's list includes ...Stephen Moore, the longtime supply-side economist who founded the Club for Growth.

[Also David Malpass is on the list, a good economist and friend(?) or ally of Scott Grannis.]

Trump is set to unveil his policy agenda during a speech at the Detroit Economic Club on Monday. According to the campaign's press release, Trump's speech "will focus on empowering Americans by freeing up the necessary tools for everyone to gain economically."

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trump-unveils-list-of-economic-advisers/article/2598694

Monday we switch to issues. If Trump can't beat Obama/Hillary in the debate over economic policy, we are sunk.

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Re: Donald Trump - ECONOMIC STATEMENT
« Reply #1235 on: August 05, 2016, 01:43:45 PM »
This will form the foundation for Monday's economic address.  I note their numbers are the same I came up with this week, 94 million out of the workforce, 8 million unemployed, 102 million out of the workforce or unemployed!

58% of young African-Americans are either outside the labor force or unemployed.
  - Totally unacceptable.  Amazing that Trump gets this.  This cannot stand in a great nation.

Highest corporate taxes in the world.  6th highest capital gains taxes in the OECD.  I'm looking forward to a coherent and persuasive rejection of current policies.  No pressure, but we should hear Trump make his case and say game, set, match.  Hillary doesn't even wants to fix what's wrong.  She promises to double down on it.

- AUGUST 05, 2016 -

TRUMP CAMPAIGN ECONOMIC STATEMENT

"We are in the middle of the single worst 'recovery' since the Great Depression. Economic growth is at 1.2 percent - the third straight quarter of less than 2 percent growth. Many workers today are earning less than they did in 1970, and household incomes are down nearly $2,000 under the Obama Administration.

We have the lowest home ownership rate in 51 years. The number of workers who work part-time because of poor business conditions increased by 5.8 percent last month. 102 million people are either outside the labor force or unemployed. 58% of young African-Americans are either outside the labor force or unemployed.

We hit a trade deficit of nearly $45 billion in the most recent month (an 8.7% increase), and nearly $800 billion last year - shipping millions of jobs overseas. Entire communities have been wiped out by offshoring.

The economy the media and the Clinton Machine is describing is an economy that doesn't exist for most Americans - it's an economy enjoyed by her donors and special interests, and one suffered through every day by millions of Americans."

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« Reply #1239 on: August 07, 2016, 04:26:52 AM »
Muslim tracking.

The closest thing I can think of to this is maybe a convicted child sex offender where others in a neighborhood can be alerted.  Also one can search a criminal background on anyone else. 

But these are not people who are suspects.

BTW, notice this link goes to MIC which also has to bring up the phony "star of David" hillary photo over "piles of cash".

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« Reply #1240 on: August 08, 2016, 02:28:14 PM »
This is very damaging indeed.  But I sincerely hope these people are not thinking I am going to turn around and start chanting "Bush for 2020".  By then its over.  And Jeb as sure as hell is "not the answer".

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/gop-letter-national-security-trump-226801

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Did Manafort make A LOT of money indirectly from Putin?
« Reply #1244 on: August 15, 2016, 08:37:10 AM »
Does It Matter if Ukraine’s Pro-Russian Party Gave Manafort Secret Cash?

Documentation is nice, but it doesn’t really surprise anyone; Paul Manafort worked for a Ukrainian political party friendly to Russia for a long time.
Handwritten ledgers show $12.7 million in undisclosed cash payments designated for Mr. Manafort from Mr. Yanukovych’s pro-Russian political party from 2007 to 2012, according to Ukraine’s newly formed National Anti-Corruption Bureau. Investigators assert that the disbursements were part of an illegal off-the-books system whose recipients also included election officials . . .

Anti-corruption officials there say the payments earmarked for Mr. Manafort, previously unreported, are a focus of their investigation, though they have yet to determine if he actually received the cash. While Mr. Manafort is not a target in the separate inquiry of offshore activities, prosecutors say he must have realized the implications of his financial dealings.

Manafort responds that the whole thing is false. If he received official on-the-books payments from political parties, why would they be giving him cash off-the-books, too?

Manafort also insists, “I have never received a single ‘off-the-books cash payment’ as falsely ‘reported’ by The New York Times, nor have I ever done work for the governments of Ukraine or Russia.” That last part seems like a bit of a dodge. If someone does work for the Democratic National Committee or Obama for America in 2012, does that mean they can say they’ve never done work for the U.S. government? In both cases, they’re answering to the president, and it seems reasonable to conclude their viewpoints and interests align.

As noted in a Morning Jolt way back in March, the Manafort-Yanukovych relationship stretched on for years.

Manafort’s friends describe his relationship with Yanukovych as a political love connection, born out of Yanukovych’s first downfall when he was driven from power by the 2004 Orange Revolution. Feeling that his domestic political advisers had failed him, Yanukovych turned to a foreign company, Davis Manafort, which was already doing work for the Ukrainian oligarch Rinat Akhmetov. The former Ukrainian PM and Manafort, the Georgetown-educated son of a Connecticut politician, hit it off.

Manafort’s firm had a set of international clients and produced an analysis of the Orange Revolution that Yanukovych found instructive, according to one operative involved in Yanukovych’s political rehabilitation. Manafort became, in effect, a general consultant to Yanukovych’s Party of Regions, shaping big-picture messaging, coaching Yanukovych to speak in punchy, American-style sound bites and managing teams of consultants and attorneys in both Ukraine and the United States ahead of an anticipated Yanukovych comeback. While it’s difficult to track payments in foreign elections, a former associate
familiar with Manafort’s earnings say they ran into the seven figures over several years.

After Yanukovych’s 2010 victory, Manafort stayed on as an adviser to the Russia-friendly president and became involved in other business projects in Eastern Europe.

Manafort also declares, “My work in Ukraine ceased following the following the country’s parliamentary elections in October 2014.” Well, yeah, there wasn’t as much he could do for his client after that:

Ukraine’s former President Viktor Yanukovych has said he accepts some responsibility for the killings that led to his overthrow in February 2014.
“I don’t deny my responsibility,” he told BBC Newsnight, when asked about the shooting of demonstrators in Kiev’s Maidan Square.

He never ordered the security forces to open fire, he said, but admitted he had not done enough to prevent bloodshed.

“I did not give any orders [to use firearms], that was not my authority… I was against any use of force, let alone the use of firearms, I was against bloodshed.  But the members of the security forces fulfilled their duties according to existing laws. They had the right to use weapons,” he said.

More than 100 protesters died in the clashes on Kiev’s central square, where huge crowds had confronted police for months.  A year after the bloodshed some witnesses told the BBC that fatal shots had also been fired at the police.  In February 2014 Mr Yanukovych was whisked away by Russian special forces to a safe haven in Russia.

After years of supporting Ukrainian resistance to Russian threats, the GOP platform suddenly changed this year. We know Manafort’s worldview is considerably friendlier to Vladmir Putin, Russia, and its political allies than the average American foreign policy maker’s. Is this because of secret cash, past contractual work, or Manafort’s personal definition of American interests? If you see Putin as a threat to American interests, does it really matter?
And if taking money from a foreign interest makes someone unacceptable to be in or near the Oval Office . . . what about the Clinton Foundation and its millions of dollars from the Saudis, Kuwaitis, state-owned Russian companies, oligarchs, and so on?

Of course, in an ordinary year, an accusation like the one in the Times would be a big deal. This year, it will be eclipsed by some new Trump comment by midday.

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Trump Outflanks Democrats on Gay Rights...
« Reply #1245 on: August 16, 2016, 05:53:59 AM »
Donald Trump Just Overtook The Democrats On Gay Rights


by MILO 15 Aug 2016 - Breitbart.com

The madman has actually done it. God-Emperor Daddy — known to the rest of you as Republican presidential candidate Donald J Trump — has just outflanked Hillary Clinton on the Left and announced what can only be described as an ultra-progressive immigration policy.
I don’t mean progressive as it has come to be used, of course — nannying, language-policing, Muslim-pandering. I mean it’s a policy that could actually make things better for minorities.

Trump’s plan is to introduce a screening process for prospective immigrants to the U.S., testing their ideological commitment to western values like women’s rights, gay rights, and religious pluralism. It’s a brilliant plan. I’m especially inclined to say it’s brilliant because it may have been partly inspired by me.

The test will apply to all immigrants, yet its obvious target is Muslims, who, as we know, get a bit bomby in the presence of gays, a bit rapey in the presence of women who wear skirts shorter than their ankles and generally a bit hostile and violent around anyone who doesn’t have their bum in the air five times a day.

The media won’t portray this policy as progressive, of course — they’ll portray it as stupid, bigoted, and reactionary. The Washington Post, little more than a Hillary mouthpiece this election cycle, has already started, branding the proposal “crazy” and “outlandish.” But it isn’t. Actually, it’s about the most pro-gay policy I’ve ever heard from a presidential hopeful.

Trump has also promised to deport hate-preachers in the U.S. His specific wording (“send them home”) again suggests that he’s targeting Islam. Go Daddy!


It’s odd that leftists are already starting up the outrage machine. After all, isn’t this what progressivism is supposed to be about? All around the world, Muslims are oppressing women, murdering gays, and exterminating non-Muslims. Progressives claim to want to protect the rights of gays, women and minorities, yet are silent on the greatest threat to them in the world today.

Somehow, I doubt they would be outraged if Trump threatened to deport the Westboro Baptist Church. This, despite the fact that the Westboro Baptists haven’t killed anyone, whereas a Muslim, Omar Mateen, carried out the greatest act of homophobic violence in U.S. history.

The Left, of course, think Orlando was a tragic incident of workplace violence, enabled by toxic masculinity and a lack of gun control.

I’m comfortable with people who are uncomfortable with gays, as long as they don’t want to kill us, maim us or throw us off rooftops. (Permission for lesser violence is available upon application.) For leftists, the reverse appears to be true — they’re uncomfortable with people who are uncomfortable with gays, unless they want to kill us and maim us and throw us off rooftops.

Thus, decline to bake a cake for some lesbians and you are a heinous bigot. Murder 50 fags and injure 50 more and you’re a tragic victim, probably reacting to islamophobia, whose dad will be invited to stand behind Hillary Clinton at a rally.

There’s no diplomatic way to put it. In this historic announcement, Donald Trump has dramatically overtaken the chronically Muslim-friendly Democratic Party on gay rights. I predict conservatives across the west will soon follow suit. The right is quickly realising that, thanks to the silence on Islam, it is they and not the left who are destined to safeguard women, gays, and minorities from the barbarians of the East.

As the body counts — and rape counts — in Europe rack up, gays — and others on Islam’s kill-list — will realize that in a world of Muslim migration, conservative immigration policies are actually the most progressive. Meanwhile, the claims of self-proclaimed leftists to champion the rights of women and minorities will ring increasingly hollow.

Voters are starting to take notice of all this.

Throughout this election cycle, Trump has been attacked as a bigot and a reactionary on immigration. With this new plan, though, he has proven beyond doubt that he’s the only person running for President who can stick up for chicks and queers.

Face facts, guys. It is the political Left that wants to flood America with violent homophobes and misogynists, not Trump. No-one with a clear-eyed view of Muslim culture can believe otherwise.

Perhaps this is what the #NeverTrump guys meant when they said Trump was a closet liberal.

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Re: Donald Trump Economic Plan, Fiscally Sound, Alan Reynolds
« Reply #1246 on: August 16, 2016, 08:03:24 AM »
I would quibble with details in the plan but the choice between this plan in the form it will come through congress and Hillary's Plan for Recession should clinch the election, (all other things equal).  )

Alan Reynolds is one of the best economists out there, works for Cato, is on the editorial board at IBD.  This one is in The Hill.

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/campaign/291003-donald-trump-pushes-fiscally-sound-economic-plan

August 10, 2016, 01:06 pm
Donald Trump pushes fiscally sound economic plan
By Alan Reynolds, contributor

Anemic economic growth is the number one issue with the voters.  And, as Donald Trump noted in a major policy address in Detroit, “Taxes are one of the biggest differences in this race.” Both candidates favor massive infrastructure spending and grumble about inexpensive imports, but they differ dramatically on taxes.

Hillary Clinton proposes to raise the top tax rate on small businesses to 47.4 percent, to shrink the estate tax exemption by $2 millon, and to impose the highest capital gains taxes in decades.

Imagine you were an economic czar trying to boost incentives for business investment and labor force participation. Would you raise tax rates or lower them? It’s not a trick question, or a hard one. Presidents Kennedy and Reagan answered that question by cutting marginal tax rates on income by 30 percent in 1964-65 and 23 percent in 1983-84. President Clinton cut the capital gains tax by 29 percent in 1997.

Similarly, Donald Trump would “work with” House Republicans’ tax reform plan “using the same brackets they have proposed: 12, 25 and 33 percent.” Capital gains would be taxed at half those rates. Trump would cut the corporate rate more deeply, to 15 percent rather than 20 percent, which could have more bang for very few more bucks.

Unfortunately, partisan critics keep trying to dismiss all such tax reform proposals as “reckless” or “insane” since they promise smaller increases in future revenue than the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) “projects.” Even the status quo flunks that test, however, because – as the graph shows – the CBO baseline projects that revenues from the individual income tax will keep rising faster than the economy forever.

“CBO projects individual income taxes will generate a growing share of revenues over the next decade,” the agency explains, “and by 2025, they will reach 9.5 percent of GDP, well above the historical average.”  After that, individual income taxes keep rising without limit – to 9.7 percent in 2028, 10 percent in 2033, 10.4 percent in 2040 and close to 14 percent by 2090.

These fanciful projections of endless, automatic tax increases, says the CBO, “are mainly because of real bracket creep—the pushing of a growing share of income into higher tax brackets as a result of growth in real (inflation-adjusted) income.”

Since nothing like that ever happened in the past, why believe it will happen in the future?

Individual income taxes averaged 7.7 percent of GDP from 1946 to 2014, and topped 9 percent only five times (1944, 1981 and 1998-2000). The individual income tax brought in just 7.7 percent of GDP from 1951 to 1963 when the top tax rate was 91 percent, and 8.1 percent of GDP from 1988 to 1990 when the top tax rate was 28 percent.

Unlike recent experience, however, the CBO imagines real wages will supposedly rise so rapidly that more and more ordinary people will find themselves shoved up into the top Clinton-Obama tax brackets of 35 percent and 39.6 percent.

The projected future revenues are also “static” which means they assume perpetual tax increases don’t harm economic growth, even though the CBO acknowledges, “Higher marginal tax rates discourage working and saving, which reduces output.”

Every CBO budget estimate warns their “baseline projections are not a forecast of future outcomes.” Yet every attempt to estimate the “cost” of tax reform ignores that warning and misuses these fantastic phantom CBO projections as the standard by which tax reforms are judged. 

The Tax Foundation estimates the House Republican tax plan “would reduce federal revenue by $2.4 trillion over the first decades on a static basis.” Due to the larger economy and tax base, however, “the plan would reduce revenue by $191 billion over the first decade.” But note well that such estimates (both static and dynamic) show reduced revenues only in comparison with the rising CBO baseline, not with taxes we actually pay.

Revenues from the individual income tax averaged 8.2 percent of GDP from 2013 to 2015, following Obama’s 2013 tax increase. That 8.2 percent figure is well above any long-term average, partly because of recessions. If receipts remain at that above-average level of 8.2 percent of GDP (which assumes no recessions), then revenues over the next ten years will turn out to be $2.62 trillion smaller than the CBO projected this March.

Keeping individual tax revenues at that relatively high 2013-2015 level (8.2 percent of GDP) would bring in slightly less revenue that over the next ten years than the House Republican plan – even in static terms. And recall that static estimates require pretending (as nobody has) that such dramatic reduction in marginal tax rates on investment, entrepreneurship and education would have zero effect on economic growth.

In short, the House Republican plan is alleged to “lose money” only because it would block “real bracket creep” by repealing the highest tax rates.

Even aside from its vitally invigorating impact on depressed incentives to work and invest, the House Republican tax reform would at most merely thwart a farfetched CBO projection of perpetual tax increases. Relative to recent and historical experience, it would not “cut taxes” at all.

Alan Reynolds is a senior fellow with the Cato Institute.

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Re: Donald Trump
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Trump v. Trump
« Reply #1248 on: August 17, 2016, 06:25:13 AM »
Lacking a strong opposition party here, I will post for them.  Some of these are explained by vast changes in time, long before he ran for anything for example.  Some are clipped.  For some the facts have changed, but by and large this is quite damaging to anyone who takes a close look at it.  She presumably has a billion or two to blanket the airwaves with it.  The negative ads will go both ways.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSE-XoVKaXg

5+ minutes of Donald at least appearing to contradict himself.

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Trump's selective trade war
« Reply #1249 on: August 17, 2016, 07:02:21 AM »
One more anti-Trump piece, hopefuly to help him get straight on issues where he has been screwed up.  This is from last March during the primaries, catching up on what good economists think.

Pat or anybody, do you have a rebuttal to any of this?  Better than Hillary but hard to get excited when part of what he's selling is snake oil.

http://www.investors.com/politics/brain-trust/alan-reynolds-donald-trumps-selective-trade-war/

Alan Reynolds: Donald Trump's Selective Trade War

The VW plant in Puebla is the largest and most modern in Mexico. Many of the cars manufactured entirely in Mexico are exported to the USA. But Donald Trump wants to single out Ford for a 35% tariff on vehicles it imports from Mexico if the company goes ahead with plans to update and expand factories south of the border. (Newscom)
3/31/2016

Donald Trump repeatedly promised voters in Michigan and elsewhere that if elected president, he would impose a 35% tariff on Fords imported from Mexico if the company goes ahead with plans to update and expand Mexican factories.

Trump threatened to impose the same tariff on Carrier air conditioners from Mexico, advised boycotting Oreo cookies because Nabisco has a Mexican subsidiary and even boasted, "We're going to get Apple to build their damn computers in this country instead of other countries."

He can’t do that.  No U.S. president has any right to tell private companies where they can produce or invest.  More obviously, no U.S. President has the legal authority to impose targeted tariffs or taxes on specific firms -- simply to punish business decisions he doesn’t approve of.

When threatening a targeted 35% tariff on Carrier, Trump explained, “I am going to get consensus from Congress, and we’re going to tax you (meaning Carrier, but actually its customers) when those air conditioners come.”

But a president needs more than a consensus to unilaterally repudiate the North American Free Trade Agreement and many related laws (including treaties with Canada) or to withdraw from the World Trade Organization.

Even if such treaties were somehow abrogated by executive fiat, the president would still have no authority to impose a tariff on imports from one specific country (Mexico) by one specific company (Ford or Carrier).

Trump presumes that the president has autocratic authority to impose taxes on imports to punish specific private enterprises and thereby help their competitors. Yet such selective, punitive tariffs would clearly violate the equal protection component of the Fifth Amendment’s Due Process Clause and would probably also be constitutionally prohibited as a bill of attainder (Article I, Section 9).

Trump’s proposal to misuse presidential power to punish disfavored U.S. companies is particularly glaring in the case of Ford.  His threat of trade sanctions against Ford raises three serious questions:

Why does Trump claim that the U.S. auto industry is rapidly declining?
U.S. production of cars and trucks more than doubled since 2009 -- rising from 5.7 million vehicles to 12 million by 2015. The U.S. exported over 2.1 million cars in 2014 and is now the world's third largest auto exporter, after Germany and Japan. (Mexico ranks seventh.)

U.S. vehicle exports to Mexico rose from 101,080 in 2009 to 151,902 in 2014. There were 919,600 U.S. jobs in manufacturing vehicles and parts last December, but only 19% of those jobs were in Michigan (which has lost jobs to many other states, such as Ohio and Kentucky).

Why does Trump single out Ford for criticism and punishment?
General Motors plans to invest $5 billion in Mexico -- twice as much as Ford -- yet Trump is silent about GM.  Nearly all of the 13 companies producing vehicles and parts in the United States produce some vehicles and/or parts in Mexico.

The traditional “Big Three” automakers have engaged in joint production in Canada and Mexico for decades (Ford has been in Mexico since 1925), so nearly all their cars contain parts from all three countries. Yet Trump never threatened to slap 35% tariffs on cars made in Canada like the Ford Edge and Flex, Lincoln MKX and MKT, and Chevy Camaro, Equinox and Impala.

Why does Trump focus trade warfare plans on Mexico, never Europe?
Trump says, “I don’t mind trade wars when we’re losing $58 billion a year,” referring to the trade deficit. But the U.S. ran a much larger deficit of $130 billion with the euro area in 2015 -- including $74 billion with Germany alone.

The euro and Japanese yen have been weak -- much weaker than even the Chinese yuan -- yet Trump has not been nearly so enthusiastic about launching a reciprocal trade war with Europe or Japan as he has with Mexico. Why not?

One reason may be that Mexican industry -- though not growing as fast as U.S. industry -- is not stagnant or declining.  From early 2010 to late 2015, according to the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development, industrial production rose 9.6% in Mexico -- not bad, though not as strong as the 13% gain in the U.S.  In the same period, however, industrial production fell 2.7% in Japan and was up only 2.6% in Europe.

Donald Trump’s proposal to apply tariffs in a discriminatory fashion to specific firms in specific countries is unprecedented. Until now, tariffs have been applied to entire classes of products, such as light trucks or tomatoes, not to specific products made by U.S.-chartered corporations in a particular country.

Trump calls his vindictive plan a “tax,” pretending that it would hurt nobody but Ford and Mexico. But it would really be a 35% sales tax paid by U.S. consumers. The main effect of any tariff is to (1) raise the cost of production for U.S. companies using imported parts or materials, making U.S. industry less competitive, and (2) raise the cost of living for American consumers, making us all poorer.

The idea that forcing Americans to pay more for less could “save jobs” is economic nonsense. Tariffs are all pain and no gain. And selective tariffs against specific companies would be imperious and blatantly unconstitutional.

 Reynolds is a senior fellow with the Cato Institute.